Re: System crash, or lockup

2012-08-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 20 August 2012 15:39, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have posted about this before, and one suggestion was that I have a
 power
 supply problem.  This seems possible, even probably, for some of my
 problems, but not, I think, for all of them.  Also, I have noticed
 additional types of problems since my last post.

 Please note:  I have purchased a new power supply (with a higher wattage
 than my old one) but have not had time to install it, yet.


 This is on an up to date Squeeze box running gnome.

 Problem 1:
 The system goes down, the screen goes blank and then says it is not
 receiving a signal.  This sounds like a power supply problem and I expect
 it
 will go away once I get the new power supply installed.

 Problem 2:
 The system simply locks up completely, with no notice, or warning. There
 is
 no response to the mouse, or keyboard.  Prior to having hard drive
 problems
 (which caused me to replace the HD and reinstall) this would sometimes
 happen.  When it did, I could usually ssh in do 'sudo chvt' and then I
 would
 be able to use the desktop again.  On checking out the system, I would
 find
 that X had simply gone away on the VT that was displayed (but the screen
 still showed everything as it had been, just unresponsive.  Since the
 reinstall, I have been unable to ssh to the box in the first place. I get
 a
 'no route' error on my laptop when I try (yes, I can ssh in at other
 times).
 The only solution is a hard reboot.  This does not seem to me to be power
 supply related.

 Problem 3 (NEW):
 The system mostly locks up.  The mouse still moves, but there is no
 response
 to mouse clicks.  The gnome panels go completely blank. Running programs
 do
 not respond to the keyboard, but I can 'chvt' to get to another X session
 (there are usually three sessions going at once on vt7, vt8 and vt9 for
 myself, my wife and my daughter.  I can also chvt to console sessions.
 Once
 I have switched to another session, if I kill startx and xinit for the
 locked session (or sessions - sometimes two sessions will do this at the
 same time.  I think that once, all three X sessions locked up this way but
 I
 was still able to 'fix' things from a console session.)  then the sessions
 start to work, again.  All applications have been killed, but the gnome
 panels are back to normal and the session responds to the mouse and
 keyboard.  This sounds like a gnome problem.  Has anyone else had a
 similar
 problem?

 I hope to get the time to install the power supply and (fingers crossed)
 solve prolem #1 tonight.  Does anyone have any ideas on the cause of
 problems #2 and #3?  I really don't expect the new power supply to solve
 them and they are just as much disruption as #1.

 Please help.  This is very annoying.


1) Sounds like loss of video signal; if this is a desktop, check
connections or try different (data) cable.

2) Maybe faulty ram.

3) Perhaps a lack of ram or swap space.

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Re: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 21 August 2012 07:54, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]

 Self-agrandisement is almost a duty in some cultures.  In others it is very
 much frowned on.

[...]
 Lisi


Wow! - I wonder how many (international) people are going to
understand that.  :-)


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Re: having a problem removing a package

2012-08-19 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 19 August 2012 12:16, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:10:46PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Du, 19 aug 12, 13:28:38, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  Ok, first I'd do an apt-get clean

 Why would you delete the downloaded packages cache because a package
 fails to remove/purge?

 When I saw this:
 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
 /etc/init.d/bandwidthd: 19: Syntax error: ( unexpected
 invoke-rc.d: initscript bandwidthd, action stop failed.
 dpkg: error processing

 I thought just to be on the safe side it might be a good idea to clean
 out any old cruft. And considering everything seemed to be uptodate
 except for 2 packages I presumed there would be no harm done.

 Why keep old ones around anyway?


I keep the cache files to save downloading again  for use on other
machines, If I want to clear my cache, I will copy them somewhere
else.

(Just my take on why keep old ones around anyway)

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Re: strange behavior after reboot, iceweasel locking everything up

2012-08-12 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 12 August 2012 17:45, Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.org wrote:
 Yesterday I had to reboot my machine.
 Cleaning house, I had dislodged the plug for a power strip that powered
 the computer, monitor, and printer.

 Now, I am seeing very odd behavior.
 Iceweasel hangs forever on some of the simplest tasks, such as loading a
 static html page.
 Not only that, but when it does so, other tasks on my machine are held
 up.  For instance, if I have iceweasel loading a page on my first
 workspace, and try to load a message in mutt on another, mutt waits for
 iceweasel to finish what it's doing before proceeding, which was not
 previously the case.
 I find this very, very odd.
 Or even opening a terminal, for instance, a terminator, hangs, waiting
 for iceweasel to finish its task.
 It's as though iceweasel has dibs on system resources, and is blocking
 other applications from using them, even when iceweasel, itself, is
 using very few resources.
 Now, when this is happening, I do not see any spikes in resource usage
 that would explain slowing or stopping the entire machine while
 iceweasel does its thing.
 For instance, the machine will be using 2% of CPU and 4% of ram, but be
 completely dormant until iceweasel succeeds in downloading a page.
 This machine is a 2.8ghz x 4core AMD APU with 16gb of ram, too, so I'm
 not exactly lacking in resources.

 The only anomalies I have noted in dmesg, etc., are that some sectors of
 my hdd are not reading correctly, or something.
 A file system check forced on a second reboot yesterday failed, which is
 disconcerting, but I'm not certain what to make of that.

 dmesg | tail gives me
 [79477.080607] ata6.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT
 [79477.080621] ata6.00: cmd 25/00:08:9d:23:9f/00:00:6c:00:00/e0 tag 0
 dma 4096 in
 [79477.080624]  res 51/40:00:9d:23:9f/40:00:6c:00:00/00 Emask
 0x9 (media error)
 [79477.080631] ata6.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
 [79477.080635] ata6.00: error: { UNC }
 [79477.196994] ata6.00: configured for UDMA/33
 [78506.185310] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled sense code
 [78506.185315] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK
 driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
 [78506.185322] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Sense Key : Medium Error [current]
 [descriptor]
 [78506.185331] Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):
 [78506.185335] 72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00
 [78506.185351] 6c 9f 23 9d
 [78506.185358] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error -
 auto reallocate failed
 [78506.185368] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 6c 9f 23 9d 00 00
 08 00
 [78506.185378] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 1822368669
 [78506.185398] ata6: EH complete

 I don't know what to make of that.

 Before the reboot yesterday, the machine was working awesomely.
 This is Debian Stable, AMD64, as mentioned on a 2.8ghz x 4core AMD APU
 with 16gb ram.
 I use Openbox window manager with no DE (which further keeps things
 generally humming long quite efficiently).

 The machine is only 8 months old, essentially (mobo, cpu, ram all
 purchased in January, although the hdd is over a year old, about 1 year
 and a half, really, so still not very old).

 What is going on here?

 I ran aptitude update  safe-upgrade yesterday (had been about a week),
 so everything is up to date.

 ./tony

Seems like the disk has some damage from when you pulled the plug.

Probably best to do a file system check from a live medium.



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Re: replacing GDM with a script

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 8 August 2012 23:05, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:
 On 08/08/12 05:17 PM, Keith McKenzie wrote:

 I just came across my old script for starting different WMs from the C/L.


Aah..I remember that know...ran Slack years ago.

Good, thanks for digging that up.

Siard, in another reply shows the scripts he uses...similar and
 accomplishes  the same thing


 Thanks

 --
 Cheers
 Frank

You're welcome, (I think I may have forgotten the 'dots' in the script).

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Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 August 2012 15:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:31:05 +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:

 On 8 August 2012 17:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 I ask because I've read this from two different sources¹ now (the other
 magazine is written in Spanish), so is this true?

 (...)

 The present testing(wheezy) CD-1 gives a choice of Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or
 LXDE but if one is selected, I believe it will be downloaded 
 installed, because when I didn't have a network connection, it only
 installed X  xterm,  not even a WM. I apt-get installed Fluxbox later
  everything worked OK.

 The first CD ISO of Debian has always given the possibility to trigger
 the installalation of the desktop environments you mention but only when
 using an Internet connection and only GNOME if you are not connected to
 the Internet (or manually select to use no mirrors at all).

 So, as far as I understand -and since this new change- the only option to
 install a DE from the first CD image (and no network link) will be just
 XFCE and people wanting to get GNOME right after the installation
 finishes will have to either a) get the new ISO image (bigger) or b)
 using external repositories when installing -which requires a good/stable
 connection.

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón

A lot of people have been using XFCE already, so the decision may have
come from the package survey info.


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Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 August 2012 17:43, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:


 Already tried that. dd complains:
   dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system


It sounds like it is mounted; try unmounting it,  then try dd again.



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Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 August 2012


 All popcon numbers are much more than a little suspect.


I quite agree, I was just trying to suggest that the decision, most
likely, was not made by one person, even though there may not have
been open discussion about it.

There has been a CD version which has XFCE+LXDE for a while now, so I
think that there is a valid reason for this as a default for the CD
version of installer,  keeping Gnome as the default for DVD installs
should keep everyone happy, especially as Gnome can no longer be
fitted onto a CD.

:-)  Personally, I prefer Light Weight to Heavy Weight, so I'm happy,
even if your'e not.  :-)


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Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 August 2012 18:28, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
 On 09/08/12 01:19 PM, Keith McKenzie wrote:

 On 9 August 2012 17:43, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  wrote:


 Already tried that. dd complains:
dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system

 It sounds like it is mounted; try unmounting it,  then try dd again.

 root@transponder:/home/garydale# umount /dev/sr0
 umount: /dev/sr0: not mounted
 root@transponder:/home/garydale# dd of=/dev/sr0  bs=2048 count=1024
 dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system


 Also,

 root@transponder:/home/garydale# mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sr0
 mke2fs 1.42.4 (12-Jun-2012)
 /dev/sr0 is entire device, not just one partition!
 Proceed anyway? (y,n) y
 /dev/sr0: Read-only file system while setting up superblock

. it isn't mounted under /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd ?



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Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?

2012-08-08 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 8 August 2012 17:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Subject says it all.

 I ask because I've read this from two different sources¹ now (the other
 magazine is written in Spanish), so is this true?

 I could only find this mailing list thread² as the official reference but
 from the comments on there it does not look like a final decision has
 been taken yet on the proposed change and this is a rather big diversion
 from the usual default to be passed so inadvertently to the users (yes,
 plain users do not read debian-devel ;-P).

 ¹http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTE1NTk
 ²http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/08/msg00029.html

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón

The present testing(wheezy) CD-1 gives a choice of Gnome, KDE, XFCE,
or LXDE but if one is selected, I believe it will be downloaded 
installed, because when I didn't have a network connection, it only
installed X  xterm,  not even a WM. I apt-get installed Fluxbox
later  everything worked OK.

HTH
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Re: Setting up to do repetitive installs on ONE machine (cf BabelBox)

2012-08-06 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 6 August 2012 14:46, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
 I have two objectives:
1. Define, by experimentation, optimal installation parameters to meet my
   idiosyncratic concept of a minimal install.
2. Determine if there are bugs in Debian Installer, the instructions for
   the installer, or MY reading of those instructions.

 I've bought the 8 DVD set of Debian 6.0.5 and have set aside a laptop as a
 testbed. I would divvy up the 80GB drive with 8-10GB for a quasi-static
 Debian install [some other experiments, possible supervisor for these tests]
 and ~40GB for DVD content [possibly some additional packages]. The rest
 would be for the resulting test install and possibly preserving some log
 files.

 Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide (particularly sections 4  5 and
 appendix B) give some indication that what I want to do is feasible.
 BabelBox {http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/BabelBox} indicates that
 something quite _similar_ has been done.


 Open questions about BabelBox and its suitability for my goals:

 BabelBox is apparently aimed at a fully scripted fully automated repetitive
 install install dependent only on the first DVD of a release [e.g. When you
 get to partitioning, create a Linux partition on /dev/sda1 ( *_about 1.5 to
 4GB_* depending on which media you want to use as installation media)...
 {EMPHASIS added}].

 I will, initially, be doing only manual installs using preseeding to avoid
 entering fixed data - keyboard, time zone, user name/password, no networking
 etc.

 Can I simply copy all 8 DVD's to the root of my supervising Debian install?
 After an install will I be able to do apt-get to access the DVD content now
 residing on the hard drive?
 Am I missing something?
 Are there other routes to my goals I should investigate?

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/BabelBox says,
For questions about babelbox, contact the debian-boot mailing list.

I think you will only be able to access one .iso image.
If you want a repository, I think you will have to create one,  I
don't think you will just be able to access multiple dvd's.

I also think the installation will just be the standard desktop.

You have an interesting concept with what you are planning, but I
don't think it will be at all easy to accomplish, but I wish you luck.

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Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze

2012-08-04 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 4 August 2012 17:03, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 03:27:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 As per the INSTALL file, have you built libeap.so as instructed?

  Why is this a Debian problem?

 Nobody has said so. He is asking for support when compiling a program ;-)

 Right, which has nothing to do with Debian SUPPORT.

 There are more appropriate mailing lists for those sort of
 questions, jeesh!

Myself,  probably the majority of people on this list, are firstly
Debian users,  secondly Linux users, so I consider most Linux/Debian
related questions acceptable if the poster runs Debian.

If, as you suggest, there is a more appropriate place to ask the
question, this should be pointed out to the OP politely.


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Re: Power Management not functioning

2012-08-03 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 2 August 2012 23:57, Mark Panen mark.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am using Squeeze amd 6.05 and yesterday after a reboot my Mecer 32
 1360x768 Monitor/TV no longer goes to sleep after 10 minutes, being working
 fine for months. Only the screen saver works now.

 I am using Gnome.

 The only thing  I might have stuffed up was installing nVidia drivers from
 the backports and then uninstalling them when nVidia driver gave me a max
 resolution of 800x600 as per one of my previous posts.

 That's the only thing I fiddled with recently.

 Any ideas guys?

 --
 Cheers
 Mark

Check your power settings in Gnome.
(trying to install the Nvidea driver may have changed them.)


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Re: replacing GDM with a script

2012-08-03 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 2 August 2012 17:22, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

   I am running 3 Linux distros with Sid as my main one. I am curious to know
 if it's possible to replace GDM with a BASH script. The issue is complicated
 because I run 3 window managers with Sid and a similar situation with the
 other 2 distros. Googling the problem hasn't turned up much of interest. I
 am in Sid most of the time, so the script could only apply here. Does anyone
 have any suggestions?


 --
 Cheers
 Frank

Slackware used to have a script that called different .xinitrc startup
scripts to load whichever Window Manager was required at X starting.

Just needed .xinitrc.fluxbox, .xinitrc.icewm, etc in your /home.

HTH



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Re: Screen locking in squeeze.

2012-08-03 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 3 August 2012 05:05, Sharon Kimble skimbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 August 2012 19:12, Sharon Kimble skimbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I seem to have lost the ability to lock my screen. I cant do it from
 the keyboard with CTRL+ALT+l [lower case L] and neither from the
 system menu.

 Can anyone suggest how I can get it back please?

 Thanks
 Sharon.

 I've just rebooted in an effort to get the screen lock back, but its
 still not working. I've even installed the screen lock applet for the
 taskbar, but that doesn't work either. And I suspect that the
 screensaver will not kick in either, so what has happened to kill it
 off?

 Could it be any of these please that were very recently installed from
 an upgrade;-
  lockfile-progs 0.1.15 = 0.1.15+squeeze1
  xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.13.0-6 = 2:2.13.0-7
 xsltproc 1.1.26-6 = 1.1.26-6+squeeze1

 i'm just clutching at straws, brain storming and trying to fix it.

 Thanks
 Sharon.

Have you checked your Gnome settings, sometimes they get reset to
default values.

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Re: Installing 3.2 kernel

2012-07-31 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 30 July 2012 19:43, Gary listgj-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2012-07-30 18:27 +0200, Gary wrote:
[...]

 That didn't go well :(

 I installed the packages, and then the one that that process complained was 
 missing/out of date (our old friend the realtek package). Restarted. After 
 selecting one of the 3.2 kernel options, the computer effectively froze, with 
 lines all over the screen. So badly I had to pull the plug :(


Did you try your old kernel with the new firmware installed?
(That is what I do.)



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Re: Debian 5 - was Re: Query abouut root account

2012-07-31 Thread Keith McKenzie
 On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Joel Rees wrote:


 From research that I had previously done, the simplest option (for me,
 being a fairly simple kind of person) appeared to be PC-BSD
 (http://www.pcbsd.org/). PC-BSD 8.x had only a KDE GUI (from memory),
 and I am, a GNOME GUI user (from memory, one of the aspects of KDE, is
 that it is supposed to be much more resource-demanding, but I could be
 wrong).

Give GhostBSD a try if you are still interested in a BSD.
(Gnome on FreeBSD, plus other GTK desktops  WM's to come.)


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Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-27 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 27 July 2012 14:35, Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:22:23PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
 I can say that Chrome and Chromium themselves very unstable on all
 my systems.

 Not true on any of my boxen. Running Chromium from Debian SID.


Nor here with Chrome, last three weeks or so..



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Re: SD slot read card failed.

2012-07-26 Thread Keith McKenzie
@ lina
 I just don't want to waste the slot, if it can be used.


I'm thinking your slot only supports SD  not SDHC cards.

I have an early netbook that will only read 1gb or 2gb SD cards,  a
more recent netbook that reads SDHC 8gb cards perfectly.
However, if I use a converter, I can read  write to my 8gb cards.

So, if you want to use it, use a SD to USB stick type converter, that
way it works just like plugging in a pendrive

(I have no idea if any work with SDXC cards.)

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Re: Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-24 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 23 July 2012 23:51, ricccardo ric.rom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm still working to mount the iPod Touch. I read the backporting
 libimobiledevice 1.1.1 to Squeeze, in the debian Wiki page but when i
 try to build libgpod the terminal says:

 ric@ricmbp:~/Desktop/ComplilaLib/libgpod-0.7.93$ dpkg-buildpackage -b
 -us -uc
 dpkg-buildpackage: export CFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
 -g -O2
 dpkg-buildpackage: export CPPFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
 vendor):
 dpkg-buildpackage: export CXXFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
 vendor): -g -O2
 dpkg-buildpackage: export FFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
 -g -O2
 dpkg-buildpackage: export LDFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
 vendor):
 dpkg-buildpackage: source package libgpod
 dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.7.93-0.3
 dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.org
 dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
  dpkg-source --before-build libgpod-0.7.93
 dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libsqlite3-dev
 dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied;
 aborting.
 dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)

 Using synaptic I sow that I can't install libsqlite3-dev because:

 libsqlite3-dev:
   Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60+1 is to be
 installed

 How can I solve this??

 Regards
 R

Perhaps 'apt-get -f install' will do it.



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Re: Debian 5 - was Re: Query abouut root account

2012-07-23 Thread Keith McKenzie
 Bret Busby wrote:

 I have a Samsung MFP printer thing; a CLX-3185FW, and I had been
 able to use it with a Debian 5 system that I had been using. Then,
 the Debian 5 system went awry (a separate system from the firewall
 system), and became apparently unusable.

 So, I  installed Debian 6 on another computer (this computer), and
 have been using that on this system, for the past few or several
 months.

 But I was unable to install the drivers for the printer, on the
 Debian 6 workstation.

Maybe this is what you want (?)

http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom/

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Re: What does this mean?

2012-07-23 Thread Keith McKenzie
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From: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net
Date: 23 July 2012 05:21
Subject: Re: What does this mean?

Using the disk I downloaded yesterday and got burnt today, there is a
fancy KDE gui, but no help screens about such trivia as getting it
working on possibly defective, broken, hardware. I got it working on a
different computer and discovered that it uses UNIONFS to overlay an
record of changes that one makes to files on the root partition.  But
even on my better computer, I couldn't find a way to exit from Knoppix
gracefully. Shutdown only shut down KDE and left the computer in a
state where it was unresponsive to any keyboard keys that I could
think to try. I had to do a press-and-hold the power button to recover
the use of the computer. When it came back up in Squeeze, the changes
that I had made to a file on the root partition were not there. The
had not been written to real disk during the somewhat brutal shutdown.

One bright spot for the day. The new memtest+ package in Squeeze has a
nice feature: It edits grub config to included memtest+ image in the
boot menu. With this, one doesn't have to have a working CDROM drive
to do a memtest. I have one running now on the problem box.

I'll be looking into earlier versions of Knoppix tomorrow.
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~~

Knoppix sites for you to get a grounding in running the live cd/dvd.

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix702-en.html
http://knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page

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Re: wifi vanished today

2012-07-23 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 23 July 2012 08:23, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 23/07/12 00:20, Hendrik Boom wrote:

 It was working this morning.  I have an ASUS HE1000 EEE netbook.  It runs
 testing.  Early this morning at home the wifi worked fine.

 [...]

 I right-clicked on the icon with two terminals and a red box
 with an white X, got a menu, and unchecked the option that enabled
 wireless.

 [...]

 Later, back at home, I tried enabling wireless again.  TO my sutprise,
 the option had disappeared from the menu.

 I don't know the machine you are using, but does it have a hardware button
 or touch 'thing' to enable/disable wifi? My HP laptop has a sort of hardware
 touch control, and disabling wifi with network manager (which I guess is
 what you did) also turns the wifi card off so that I have to first use such
 hardware control.

 Lorenzo.

Try 'edit connections', should be able to enable your wifi from there.
(You will probably need to enter your details.)

HTH

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Re: Debian 5 - was Re: Query abouut root account

2012-07-23 Thread Keith McKenzie
.


 Maybe this is what you want (?)

 http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom/

 HTH
 --


That is, I think, one of the places that I looked.

But, with what is there, being


Index of 
/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/installer-i386/20090123lenny10/images/cdrom
Name Last modified   SizeDescription

Parent Directory -
debian-cd_info.tar.gz   09-Mar-2012 09:08   319K
gtk/10-Mar-2012 14:31-
initrd.gz   09-Mar-2012 09:08   4.3M
vmlinuz 09-Mar-2012 09:14   1.4M



there appears to be nothing like an ISO image there.

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I should have looked deeper, sorry, how about,

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/

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Re: is there a problem with flashplugin-nonfree on squeeze amd64?

2012-07-21 Thread Keith McKenzie
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Re: drive already mounted or busy ... dmsetup routine

2012-07-18 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 17 July 2012 21:30, John Magolske listm...@b79.net wrote:
 Thanks for the reply.

 * Camaleón noela...@gmail.com [120711 16:09]:
 On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:09:59 -0700, John Magolske wrote:

  I've been having issues with a particular hard drive, where after a
  suspend-resume cycle with s2ram, it won't mount:
 
  # mount /dev/sdb1 /media
  mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media busy
  # umount /media
  umount: /media: not mounted

 I wouldn't use /media as mount point but an isolate mount point and
 better yet static if the hard drive is to be used every day.

 Just did a bit of searching, not sure what isolate(d) or static mount
 points might be... Reading the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard I see
 that /media should be a mount point for removeable media, containing
 subdirectories used as mount points for removeable media such as
 floppy disks, cdroms and zip disks. I just grabbed /media here as an
 example, simplifying what I typically use, which involves entries in
 /etc/fstab like this:

 /dev/disk/by-id/*hd1-id**-part1 /hd/e1 auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0
 /dev/disk/by-id/*hd2-id**-part1 /hd/e2 auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0

 an alias:

 mnt () {
 mount /$1/$2  cd /$1/$2  ls -ohF --color=auto
 }

 and directory structures like so:

 % tree /hd
 /hd
 |-- e1
 |-- e2
 |-- e3
 `-- h1

 % tree /fd
 /fd
 |-- e1
 |-- e2
 `-- e3

 Then, `mnt hd e1` will mount one hard drive, `mnt hd e2` will mount
 another hard drive, `mnt fd e2` will mount a particular flash drive,
 etc. Maybe there's a simpler/smarter way to handle mounting drives,
 but I set this up a while back in the interest of being able to
 tell by glancing at a short absolute file path exactly what drive
 is mounted, and it seems to be working well enough. In any case, my
 already mounted or ...  dmsetup remove ... routine is the same
 whether I use `mnt hd e1` or just do a `mount /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint`.

  So I end up doing the following routine:
 
  # dmsetup ls
 
  (observe the device uuid's and input those to the remove below)
 
  # dmsetup remove
  *-part1 #
  dmsetup remove
  *
 
  After this I can mount/umount multiple times no problem. But after every
  suspend-resume cycle I have to do that dmsetup routine again.

 Is the hard drive partition being used/recognized as as device mapper
 volume? :-?

 I did not set up such a thing with this drive. I do have another script
 that uses cryptsetup like:

 cryptsetup create cryptodrive /dev/disk/by-id/usb-***-0:0-part1

 but that explicitly calls out a different disk by id, so I don't see
 how that would be contributing to this behaviour.

  Could this be a hard-drive hardware issue? Or maybe something is
  mis-configured? Seems to have started after a dist-upgrade a while back.
  I'm able to mount other flash-drives fine without the dmsetup routine.

 These errors are commom when resuming from suspension or even
 hibernation. What you can do is unmounting the USB devices before
 entering into suspension mode and mount them again after system comes to
 life.

 I try to always unmount external drives  USB devices prior to a
 suspend/resume. It's possible I accidentally forgot to do so once
 with this drive (though I don't recall doing so). And I keep getting
 the described behaviour *every* time I try to mount that drive after
 a suspend/resume. It's also possible this drive was mounted during a
 dist-upgrade...not sure if that could've scrambled things up a bit.

 John

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Re: Debian on a 32G USB flashdrive

2012-07-16 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 16 July 2012 11:56, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Mon 16 Jul 2012 at 09:35:20 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 [...]
 As for the slight slowdown with a lot of read/writes, this might simply
 be the nature of the medium compared with a hard disk.


It certainly is; I tried running from a pendrive formatted with ext3; it
'killed' my pendrive.

If you still want to use usb you could use an SDHC card in a usb converter,
runs faster, ( so far hasn't died).

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Re: Re(2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-07-16 Thread Keith McKenzie
Not quite OT :-

For a Debian Live recovery (or install) distro try SalineOS (XFCE desktop)

http://www.salineos.com/

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Re: sc, i.e., spread sheet calculator using ncurses

2012-07-13 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 12 July 2012 18:29, Nick Lidakis nlida...@verizon.net wrote:

 Does anyone use sc, the text based spreadsheet program?

 Over the years I've become more fond of the console and
 ncurses applications. I've recently found myself using sc
 as my first spreadsheet application for our new small
 business. Doing initial sales calculations, the program is fast,
 easy to use, and being ncurses very easy on the eyes.

 There's a bit of info about sc online but not much. I found a nice,
 albeit dated, mini-manual online:
 www.economics.utoronto.ca/jfloyd/stats/minmansc.pdf

 I can foresee issues exchanging data with people who use Excel. But then
 I don't know if any of the graphical clients have that capability either.

 Thoughts?


 P.S. I also find the command line accounting program ledger very intriguing
 as well.


 I often have mc sc fbi mpg123 mplayer on a machine for cli use, with a wm
 browser for the internet.

Mainly used sc for fairly simple stuff, whatifs, etc.

I like the commandline, but the internet is not friendly to text browsers.


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Re: Netbook acer ao-722 bz-893

2012-07-12 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 11 July 2012 21:13, Dr Beco r...@beco.cc wrote:

 Dear Linuxers,

 (about debian on Netbook Acer AO-722, BZ-893)

 Some days ago I've got an Asus Eee-PC 1215B and I had a lot of trouble
 to make wireless and cable to work. To the point I got near a deadline
 of 7 days before returning it to the store, and I decided to return
 it.

 I changed to an Acer Aspire One 722 BZ893, hoping it would work out of
 the box. I even got a live debian distro in a pendrive to boot there
 in the store, to be sure it would work.

 Well, it worked with wrong resolution, but ok. The internet (cable)
 was fine for a while. Then I brought it home.

 For some unknow reason, I discovered that the internet only work for a
 few moments, then it stops. That is eth0.
 For wlan0 never appear.

 In this rare moments of useful internet using my KDE live distro, now
 installed, I was able to install synaptic, update the apt-get, install
 wireless-tools, google-chrome, and some other basic stuff.

 Now I can't get any internet time anymore. I don't know why...

 eth0 simple doesn't get an IP address, and ifconfig doesn't show wlan0.

 I'm in kind of a deadline because I need to decide if I'll keep it and
 keep trying, or return it for good. I feel very frustrated and
 although you doesn't need to know, I could barely sleep this night
 because of this problem that is ruining my vacations and finances.

 Please, if someone would be kind to guide my step-by-step and make it
 work, or if someone knows for sure I better return and buy something
 else more compatible, I'm all ears.


 Finished the history, now some tech info:


 lspci -nn gives (among other things):

 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device [1022:1510]
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device
 [1002:9807]
 00:01.1 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:1314]
 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Axalia (Intel
 HDA) [1002:4383] (rev 42)
 06:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications AR8152 v2.0
 Fast Ethernet [1969:2062] (rev c1)
 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. Device
 [168c:0032] (rev 01)


 Audio is working ok. Just VGA, eth0 and wlan0 needs my attention. I
 even don't really care about HDMI or other things I can live without.

 A friend of mine gave me an old usb wireless adapter to help me out.
 It is a Netgear WPN111. But that doesn't work either.

 lsusb gives:

 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1385:5f01 Netgear, Inc WPN111 (no firmware)


 lsmod gives:

 Module  Size  Used by
 powernow_k810978  0
 cpufreq_powersave902  0
 parport_pc 18855  0
 cpufreq_conservative 5162  0
 ppdev   5030  0
 cpufreq_stats   2740  0
 lp  7462  0
 cpufreq_userspace   1992  0
 parport27954  3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
 sco 7225  2
 bridge 39646  0
 stp 1440  1 bridge
 bnep9427  2
 rfcomm 29629  0
 l2cap  24752  6 bnep,rfcomm
 crc16   1319  1 l2cap
 bluetooth  41827  6 sco,bnep,rfcomm,l2cap
 vboxnetadp  4193  0
 vboxnetflt 12525  0
 vboxdrv  1723671  2 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
 uinput  6376  1
 fuse   50924  1
 joydev  8459  0
 loop   11799  0
 snd_hda_codec_atihdmi 2251  1
 snd_hda_intel  20035  3
 snd_hda_codec  54292  2 snd_hda_codec_atihdmi,snd_hda_intel
 snd_hwdep   5380  1 snd_hda_codec
 snd_pcm60487  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
 snd_seq42881  0
 snd_timer  15598  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
 snd_seq_device  4493  1 snd_seq
 uvcvideo   52127  0
 videodev   30089  1 uvcvideo
 psmouse49985  0
 i2c_piix4   8328  0
 snd46526  13

 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
 rfkill 13044  2 bluetooth
 v4l1_compat11442  2 uvcvideo,videodev
 v4l2_compat_ioctl32 8474  1 videodev
 led_class   2433  0
 soundcore   4598  1 snd
 video  17445  0
 pcspkr  1699  0
 serio_raw   3752  0
 output  1692  1 video
 i2c_core   15819  2 videodev,i2c_piix4
 evdev   7352  24
 snd_page_alloc  6249  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 wmi 4323  0
 battery 4998  0
 processor  29935  3 powernow_k8
 fglrx2610490  0
 ac  2192  0
 button  4650  1 fglrx
 ext3  106710  2
 jbd37317  1 ext3
 mbcache 5050  1 ext3
 usb_storage40217  0
 sd_mod 29937  4
 crc_t10dif 

Re: help with xserver-xorg-video-ast

2012-07-11 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 10 July 2012 19:45, Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com wrote:

  Keith,
 That was my plan but I can't find where the autoconf file is trying to
 locate the macros at?  I located /usr/share/aclocal/xorg-macros.m4 but I
 can't find where the link is supposed to be.  Any ideas?

 Re :and now when I try to re-install is says glibc-2.13 is required when
2.14 is installed.

I would try something like

ln -s glibc-2.14 glibc-2.13

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Re: CD image doesn't exist for download?

2012-07-11 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 11 July 2012 16:36, Kirsten Milligan kirs...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 After several attempts over several years, I haven't yet had complete
 success installing Linux.  I'm hungry to learn, but am very poor at
 computerspeak, so please be gentle.

 I'm trying again.  I know, some steps would be removed from the process if
 I'd buy disks, but I'd really like to master this.
 [.]
 Thanks very much for your attention.


Personally I recommend that you just download a (standard) CD-1 image from
the Debian site as you say you are not experienced with Linux.

It will make installation easier for you,  then once that is up  running,
start learning about Linux  Debian.

You will get plenty of encouragement from mailing lists  forums to help
you learn your new system, but until you have a working system of your own,
it will be difficult to explain things.

Another point : Do you want to replace your Win XP, or do you want to have
both (dual booting) on your computer.


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Re: CD image doesn't exist for download?

2012-07-11 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 11 July 2012 19:56, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:

 Stop making it complicated. She just needs to download the netinst cd then
 burn the .iso image. There is no need to get a full image file, whether CD
 or DVD, to install Linux.


With no knowledge of Linux, using a net install CD _is_ more complicated
than just installing from a CD.

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Re: How to install Debian and what media to use - Was: Re: CD image doesn't exist for download?

2012-07-11 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 11 July 2012 20:12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 OP of the original thread, please ignore this thread, I suspect the
 mailing list needs to discuss what really is the easiest way for people
 without knowhow, to install a Linux.

 Why do you all recommend those complicated ways?

  http://lists.debian.org/1342033978.2311.35.camel@precise


Most likely because, for some unknown reason, the OP was trying to download
via jigdo, which is not the easiest way for someone who doesn't know Linux
yet.

That is why I suggested to download a (standard) CD-1,  install from that.

Once they have a working Linux system, then is the time to start asking the
questions to learn about it.

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Re: help with xserver-xorg-video-ast

2012-07-10 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 July 2012 23:24, Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com wrote:

 hello everyone,
 I am hoping someone can help me.  I am running Wheezy and got a driver
 from Aspeed for their on-board video driver.  Loaded it and it worked until
 I installed xen-qemu-dm-4.0 and now when I try to re-install is says
 glibc-2.13 is required when 2.14 is installed.  I contacted Aspeeds tech
 support and they suggested I compile from source.  I got the source package
 and run autoconf and get a error that xorg-macros needs to be installed.  I
 located it in xutils-dev and installed that package but it is still giving
 me a error about xorg-macros.  I have run autoconf -v to try and find out
 if it is expecting the libraries somewhere and I just need to link to them
 but it doesn't give me any idea on where.
 Question 1 - is there a easier way to do this?
 Question 2 - anyone have any idea on what I need to do to compile this
 driver?


Re Question 1 - in the past I have used a soft link in such situations; may
work for you.


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Re: Google Chrome is installed but won't run

2012-07-07 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 7 July 2012 07:21, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have just installed Google Chrome on a vanilla almost default
 Squeeze/LXDE
 installation.  It is there, but won't run.  I have tried:

 click on icon in menu - nothing happens

 launch from launcher - command is accepted, but launcher then hangs

 run from terminal - command is accepted, but terminal then hangs

 run from terminal with complete path (/usr/bin/google-chrome) - command is
 accepted, but terminal then hangs

 Run from root terminal - error message comes up:
 quote
 root@Hercules:/home/peter# google-chrome
 [2248:2248:412227201:ERROR:chrome_browser_main_extra_parts_gtk.cc(50)]
 Startup refusing to run as root.
 root@Hercules:/home/peter#
 /quote

 Help!

 Lisi



Just installed it on Wheezy via dpkg -i.

It required :

libgconf2-4 (=2.27.0)
libcurl3
xdg-utils (=1.0.2)

HTH
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Re: Random lockups

2012-07-03 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 3 July 2012 18:10, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:



   My desktop running Debian Sid just locked up for the 4th or 5th time
 recently.

There is nothing is the syslog...nothing in the xorg log. The system
 just locks changing what's on the screen to yellow tinged text.
 It locks so tight that only a hard reset gets it back. Alt-SysReq does
 nothing.

It will lockup at different places...reading mail, browsing the web,
 reading a manual etc etc

I am running an Intel D865GBF board, and Intel on-board video.

 uname -a

 Linux sid.dummy.org 3.2.0-2-686-pae #1 SMP Mon Jun 11 18:27:04 UTC 2012
 i686 GNU/Linux

 I have to use processor.nocst=1 to allow this kernel to boot.

 I don't think it's kernel related as I have been running this kernel for a
 few months and the problem only started recently.

 I ran memtest86 for a couple of hours and it didn't show anything.

 Gkrellm was showing normal temps so neither the CPU nor the motherboard
 was overheated...voltages from what I remember were normal.

 I am  stumped. Suggestions ??


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I had been experiencing random browser lock ups (Squeeze),  it turned out
to be my /var was filling up.

Possibly something to check.

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Re: CD/DVD diagnostic tools needed

2012-07-01 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 1 July 2012 15:30, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

 I'm having various random problems installing from Live CD's.
 The problems are weird, inconsistent, and intermittent.
 The first thing is to determine whether or not I have faulty hardware, be
 it the target box or the box that burns the CD.

 I've already run memtest86 and Seagate disk diagnostics demonstrating that
 problems from that area is unlikely.

 I need two diagnostics:
   1. verify what's on the CD matches the ISO from which it was generated.
  [already have verified that the downloaded MD5SUM matches repository]
   2. verify target system reads CD/DVD correctly.

 For the first I require both Linux and Windows versions.
 The second should probably be a Live CD itself.

 Any ideas?


Most likely your media (cd/dvd), or the speed you are writing at.

When you burn a disc, do you check it against the iso's MD5; it may not
have burned properly.
(Also, burn at a slow speed, even if it says it can be used at high speeds.
1x~4x)

Old cd drives don't like ReWriteable discs,  some just won't read some
makes of disc.

(Just a couple of problems I had in the past.)


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Re: Re (3): Apparent disagreement between df and cp.

2012-06-30 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 29 June 2012 23:41, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 06/29/2012 05:29 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

 From:   Domto...@rpdom.net
 Date:   Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:02:45 +0100

 Ok, I've just tested this. It is a FAT filesystem limitation.

 /snip/

 I've looked at this thread a number of times, but I was then and
 still am puzzled.  According to Linux in a Nutshell, by Siever, et al,
 cp is a copy command that applies to files or directories, and
 none of the options mentions determining the size of a file-
 system or the remaining space therein.  Please advise.

 --doug


It was about cp reporting 'no space left on device', whilst df said that
there was space available.

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Re: / almost full

2012-06-28 Thread Keith McKenzie
Mark Panen:

 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sdc1 323M  304M  2.6M 100% /
 tmpfs 3.9G 0  3.9G   0% /lib/init/rw
 udev  3.9G  212K  3.9G   1% /dev
 tmpfs 3.9G  2.6M  3.9G   1% /dev/shm
 /dev/sdc9 1.8T  248G  1.5T  15% /home
 /dev/sdc8 368M   17M  333M   5% /tmp
 /dev/sdc5 8.3G  3.3G  4.6G  42% /usr
 /dev/sdc6 2.8G  530M  2.1G  20% /var


Personally, I would re install if this is a personal system, it will
make life easier in the future.

If you do decide to;
create a / partition of about 10gb (minimum)
a swap partition (if you want one)
 the rest either as one partition for /home,
  or multiple partitions ( /home, /data, /movies, etc)

Splitting a large drive into smaller partitions will speed up file
system checks.


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Re: / almost full

2012-06-28 Thread Keith McKenzie
Judging by your present setup, it looks like you have 8gb ram, half of
it being used as tmpfs; or am I wrong.

As for /tmp  /var, they would be under/on your / partition, as would
/usr. That is why I was suggesting at least 10gb; you appear to be
using about 4gb at present; that should leave enough room for any
further additional applications you install in the future.

Swap is not mandatory. :-)
If you think you will need some, add equal to system ram, but I don't
bother with swap on 2gb ram or more, as my usage of ram is pretty low,
web browsing, movie watching, playing music, etc.

The main reason for having separate /  /home is that I can re install
the system if necessary, without having to re install all my personal
files.
(Of course, I still have backups.) :-)

On 28/06/2012, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 09:57:13AM +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
 Personally, I would re install if this is a personal system, it will
 make life easier in the future.

 If you do decide to;
 create a / partition of about 10gb (minimum)
 a swap partition (if you want one)

 swap would be almost mandatory, wouldn't it?

  the rest either as one partition for /home,
   or multiple partitions ( /home, /data, /movies, etc)

 What about /tmp? or is that not necessary now because of this new tmpfs
 thingy?

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Re: Where does Debian define/specify standard bundles?

2012-06-28 Thread Keith McKenzie
You appear to be wanting to know the dependancies for packages,
whereas, installinux appears to run a distros installer.

If you want tasksel, it is part of the Debian install process. the
regular (Debian suggested) desktop environment is Gnome, but you can
choose between Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or LXDE on installation. OR, install
a 'standard system'  then boot into it  run apt-get install (or use
aptitude) to install your choice of programs, such as Xorg  a window
manager, or a desktop environment,  programs for office work, web
browsing, etc.

All necessary (open source) dependancies will be installed
automatically for you.

On 28/06/2012, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:31:26 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

 In trying to find a reasonable way to create a custom installation I
 came across http://www.instalinux.com . I gather from what is on its
 site and several reviews it creates the equivalent of a customized
 netinst iso by using preseed files.

 At one point the site allows the user to select some common preference
   saying: Select Debian-Squeeze software bundles and then listing
 desktop, laptop, etc.

 Where would I find those bundles defined? [Google not helpful :

 There's a brief explanation of the involved packages here:

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#pkgsel

 Greetings,


 I've seen either that page or a quotation of it. As it is
 from an Installation Guide, the author's intended audience
 is a range typical end users, not someone wishing to make a
 tool for a very atypical end user.

 What I'm looking for is similar to the dependency info used
 in the background by synaptic etc.

 Pages similar to
 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/desktop-base or
 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gdm3 would be closer to
 what I'm looking for.





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Re: Where does Debian define/specify standard bundles?

2012-06-28 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 28/06/2012, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 04:42:44PM +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
 If you want tasksel, it is part of the Debian install process. the
 regular (Debian suggested) desktop environment is Gnome, but you can
 choose between Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or LXDE on installation.

 I think he does want tasksel, but it's not really part of the install
 process, it's merely called by the install process. I believe the tasksel
 maintainers have recently moved to a model where their tasks (bundles) are
 now simply packages - Here is a list of all binary packages provided by
 the source tasksel package in sid:

 http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/tasksel


Interesting tidbit, I'm still mainly on Squeeze, with one Wheezy setup
via the installer on XFCE/LXDE CD-1


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Re: backuppc failed full backup of itself

2012-06-27 Thread Keith McKenzie
The system isn't backed up normally, as you would have installation
media to restore it; you would just backup configuration. Having said
that, if you do want to back it up, use a  live media, not the running
system.

(Usually it is only your data that is irreplaceable.)

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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-27 Thread Keith McKenzie
You could, most likely, enter it by hand into the grub configuration;
 it should then be available on your next reboot.

In /boot/grub/grub.cfg;

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###


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Re: bash related question, adding variable into path

2012-06-23 Thread Keith McKenzie
I think maybe put ; after the first command before issuing the second
command mkdir

id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e 'use zimbra;select id,comment from
mailbox;' | grep $username | cut -f 1` ; mkdir /tmp/$username
2/dev/null

/or, possibly you need to escape your statement

id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e \'use zimbra;select id,comment from
mailbox;\' | grep $username | cut -f 1` ; mkdir /tmp/$username
2/dev/null

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Re: dependency tree on installed packages

2012-06-20 Thread Keith McKenzie
apt-cache dump | grep Package:
apt-cache dump | grep Version:

Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names  versions.

Maybe that will get what you want in a roundabout way.  :-)



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Re: musicplayer A-B repeat

2012-06-20 Thread Keith McKenzie
Rhythmbox

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Re: wpa_supplicant.wlan1.pid

2012-06-06 Thread Keith McKenzie
[QUOTE]Toshiba laptop with an Intel wireless adapter that I'm unable to get to
work[/QUOTE]

Is it dead or, maybe, it just needs some firmware to be installed.


On 05/06/2012, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:
  On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:41:57 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  suggested this:

Okay, let's back to the warning message and the behaviour you get.
Some questions:

1/ Despite the warning on the PID, is the wireless connection still
available and working?

 Yes, it appears to pick it up on the second try as shown in the
 original post

2/ How did you setup the network, by manually editing the
/etc/network/ interfaces file or using an applet such N-M or WICD?

 Yes by manually editing the /etc/network/ interfaces file

3/ Do you have a pattern for the error? I mean, when are you getting
that message? It could be normal if you (or a daemon) restart (or
shutdown and then start) the network service or that wireless
interface (wlan1).

 I don't have access to the wireless service at the moment and won't
 again probably till Monday June 11.

 But it appears that the daemon can't find a fie and then tries again
 and makes the connection.

 It's just that I haven't had this happen previously and just wondered
 why it was happening? As you suggest, it might be quite normal. It's a
 Toshiba laptop with an Intel wireless adapter that I'm unable to get to
 work, so I plug in a wireless dongle that is recognised by the Debian
 Wheezy system.

 I would have tested it again yesterday, but due to floods couldn't get
 back into town where I volunteer at the local community centre. I
 connect the lappy into their wireless network.

 I just noted that change while connecting on last Monday, and wondered
 if it would cause problems in the future.

 Thank you for your time in this. But until I can get back into town I
 won't be able to see if it's been fixed since the last update.

 Thank you.
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Re: System crashes for no apparent reason

2012-06-06 Thread Keith McKenzie
I would open the box  ensure all connections are secure, re seat the
ram, close the box, check the ram; then look elsewhere.


On 06/06/2012, ACro a...@bluebottle.com wrote:
 Hello Marc,

 maybe this is a hardware problem? I'm not a hardware guru, but in the
 past I've had problems with power supply units getting unstable and
 causing the system to crash (with subsequent reboot) with no apparent
 reason: replacing the power unit solved the problem. I had also
 defective hard drive data connectors which caused the system to freeze.
 With laptops, I experienced crashes (with no reboots) and eventually
 dead systems because of defective power units.

 This is not much, but I hope it will help.

 All the best,
 Andrea


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Re: wpa_supplicant.wlan1.pid

2012-06-06 Thread Keith McKenzie
[QUOTE]I have installed all the firmware and other packages that might work I
think. If you have an idea about what I might have left out please
don't hesitate to say.

Thank you,
Charlie
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If you haven't tried 'firmware-non-free', it may be in there, mine was.

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Re: Turn Off Screen Saver

2012-06-06 Thread Keith McKenzie
System - Preferences - Power Management

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Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-04-08 Thread keith mckenzie

Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to send his 
messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless 
numbers/letters,  no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to 
normal.  :)



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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 02/04/12 15:44, Nick White wrote:

Anybody have any other suggestions?


When I installed Squeeze 6.0.3/4 onto my newish HP G62 laptop, I had no 
sound. I was given this advice by someone, (I'm afraid I can't remember 
who), from Linuxquestions - Debian forum:-


Download the latest alsa-driver package from alsa-project.org.

Install linux-source-?  linux-headers-?,  also binutils needed.
(? = kernel patch numbers)

Configure it with:-

./configure --with-debug=full--enable-dynamic-minors \
--with-moddir=updates (all one line)

make  make install

Rebooted  had sound!


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Re: Installing genesys on Debian - lateral thinking time?

2012-04-01 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 31/03/12 23:19, Lisi wrote:

The really sad thing about all this is that it works in Ubuntu 11.10 Unity on
a live CD.  The CD was sloow, but once it had loaded, I could
scan with my LiDE 110.
I think I would check out exactly what Ubuntu is using; after all it is 
based on Debian.


Keith


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Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE

2012-04-01 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 01/04/12 14:15, ntrfug wrote:

Apr  1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Attached SCSI removable disk
It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to mount 
it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being auto 
mounted, as that seems to be what you want.


(If you have never mounted via root; mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt)


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Re: OT: change of mail provider

2012-04-01 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 01/04/12 14:20, Camaleón wrote:

May I ask about the reasons for ditching Gmail from your life?

I'm more than tempted to do it so but I have still not found a good
replacement for my Gmail e-mail address.
I use Hotmail (for receiving junk), Yahoo,  Gmail. I have Icedove fetch 
my mail,  reply from it. If it is only the annoyance of the Gmail 
interface you dislike, give Icedove a try.



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Re: Installing genesys on Debian

2012-03-31 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 31/03/12 11:29, Lisi wrote:

Junior:/home/lisi/Scanner/Canon_LiDE-110/sane-backends-1.0.22# sh ./install-sh
install:no input file specified
Junior:/home/lisi/Scanner/Canon_LiDE-110/sane-backends-1.0.22# sh ./install-sh
sane-backends.lsm
install:no destination specified
Junior:/home/lisi/Scanner/Canon_LiDE-110/sane-backends-1.0.22#
No idea about sane; but it looks like you need two parameters for that 
command, if you want it in the directory you are in, put a dot '.' for 
the second parameter.


Keith


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Re: Installing genesys on Debian

2012-03-31 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 31/03/12 14:41, Lisi wrote:

I then ran
#./configure
#make
#make install.
'make install' will put the files wherever they should be, that's part 
of the makefile.



Junior:/home/lisi/Scanner/Canon_LiDE-110/sane-backends-1.0.22# sh ./install-sh
sane-backends.lsm /etc/sane.d


(/etc/sane.d would probably be your config directory)

Don't know if any of this helps or not; but it just might

Was there a README to go with it?

Keith


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Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 30/03/12 10:15, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On 29/03/2012 05:03, Lisi wrote:

On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

I want it fast!

Then use Ubuntu.

Lisi




I am already using Ubuntu 11.10.


Why not 12.04.
I thought you liked cutting edge


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Re: chroot ssh and ftp

2012-03-30 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 30/03/12 19:39, Dr Beco wrote:

Hi there debian users,


I've being searching a how-to to work this out, but all I got was
old blogs with very strange and different suggestions.

I need to configure a system with 3 groups of people: admins,
professors and students.


MAYBE THE FOLLOWING WILL WORK

Professors can browse all /home of students, can read/write to them
also, but not browse to other professors.

/home/professors/
'professor' group has read/write permissions on /home/students/

Students can't browse each others homes.

Normal 'user' - (file creation mode 777; I think)


None, professors or students can get out of /home (jail?), but only admins can.

 admins in 'admin' group


Now, for debian squeeze, is there any news on a more recent way to do
these things, or some scripts that might help?

Do I need to create another directory, like /chroot/home, or can that
be made in /home as it is now?


Thanks for your attention, I hope we can figure it out.

Beco





Sounds like permissions on groups to me.
Maybe /home/professors /home/admins /home/students


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Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp

2012-03-29 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 29/03/12 18:26, Dom wrote:

Disclaimer: I've never used Midnight Commander

Give it a go, you may fall in love with it, like many have.  :)

Keith


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Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/03/12 04:01, Charles Kroeger wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:40:02 +0200
Andrei POPESCUandreimpope...@gmail.com  wrote:


On Mi, 21 mar 12, 14:26:22, Charles Kroeger wrote:


Thanks for the suggestion..however if the SD card happens to be in the
camera and not in the card reader during the boot fstab can't find
'sde1' (because it's not there) then I get to see the 'not found'
warning. That's the reason for not putting the 'sde1' line in fstab.


noauto?


auto what..please elaborate.


'noauto' means not mounted automatically at booting up.



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Re: /tmp full, tmpfs, Debian testing

2012-03-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/03/12 00:25, wlan wrote:

Oh, if I close window with movie and start it again all works.

root@serenity:/home/wlan# df -h /tmp
Файловая система Размер Использовано  Дост Использовано% Cмонтировано в
tmpfs  605M  12M  594M2% /tmp

After restart movie into browser.

2012/3/28 wlanz01.r...@gmail.com:

Hello, guys.

I was install Debian testing x86_64 with KDE4 2 days ago. And I've
next problem. For example I watched movie in my browser from streaming
and my /tmp was full, and movie stoped.  It's bug? Or I can resolve it
problem? Yep, i was use google. =)

root@serenity:/home/wlan# uname -a
Linux serenity 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 20 18:36:37 UTC 2012
x86_64 GNU/Linux

root@serenity:/home/wlan# df -h /tmp
Файловая система Размер Использовано  Дост Использовано% Cмонтировано в
tmpfs  605M 605M 0  100% /tmp

root@serenity:/home/wlan# du -sh /tmp
16K /tmp

root@serenity:/home/wlan# free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  3021   2664357  0 22   1343
-/+ buffers/cache:   1298   1723
Swap: 3903  0   3903

Regards,
Kirill Sotnikov.

PGP-key id: 8509ED19

Sounds like you may need to buffer the movie stream somehow.


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Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/03/12 01:37, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:



I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of
course I still want stability and reliability.

The two are incompatible!


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Re: Query about hard drive partitions maintenance

2012-03-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/03/12 10:10, Bret Busby wrote:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Camaleón wrote:




I can, more or less, use Debian (I am still learning it, after however
many years), and PC-BSD would be a learning experience, and probably, a
fair bit of hard work (I haven't used BSD, since before GUI's), so it
appears that I will have to leave PC-BSD for a bit longer, or, get a
computer that I can dedicate to (run only the one operating system on
the computer) PC-BSD.


.

You could run it in a virtual environment (quemu) under Debian.

Or, why not try GhostBSD; available from www.ghostbsd.org , which is a 
live ( installable) GUI version of FreeBSD; run from cd/dvd or pendrive.



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Re: aptitude failure to fetch

2012-03-27 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 27/03/12 07:50, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

Suits in Debian are oldstable, stable, testing, unstable, experimental
and components/areas are main, contrib, non-free, but derivatives may
have others. Very simply put, suits are about versions, components about
types of software. Releases also have codenames (except experimental).

[1] experimental and unstable/sid are actually never released

Hope this explains,
Andrei
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Interesting information, thanks.
Keith


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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Keith McKenzie




I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in
the columns, just before the red zones).



Not sure if you've tried these:-

Alsamixer has 'mic-boost', 'capture', 'capture1',  'internal mic 
boost'. (Press F4)


Also F6 might give another soundcard.


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Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 20/03/12 23:23, Charles Kroeger wrote:

Before you suggest, I didn't put the mount -t vfat etc command in fstab
because I don't want to see a message every time I boot the computer without
the SD card in the reader saying sde1 can't be found and doesn't exist.

I've got a feeling if you put 'users' on the fstab line it will cure 
that,  anyone in the 'users' group should be able to mount it.



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Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 21/03/12 03:34, Ken Heard wrote:

Mar 20 17:39:11 R61 kernel: [4.756112]  mmcblk0:3mmc0: Card
removed during transfer!

That looks bad...


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Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 21/03/12 03:48, John Jason Jordan wrote:

Let me know what kind of n-in-one card reader you find. I could use
one as well.
I have a (www.)Novatech(.co.uk) reader that is 'cheap'  works OK, but 
is slow.



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Re: Can no longer mount SDHC card

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 21/03/12 03:34, Ken Heard wrote:

Mar 20 18:22:03 R61 kernel: [4.632233]  mmcblk0:3mmc0: Card
removed during transfer!
You might want to check if the sd card is still readable; if it isn't, 
it was corrupted by being removed whilst the system was still writing 
data to it; will need to be re formatted.



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Re: Query about hard drive partitions maintenance

2012-03-21 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 21/03/12 14:47, Bret Busby wrote:

In my primary partition, I have three partitions. I have a hardware
manufacturer's partition, a recovery partition, and, as the computer
came with MS Windows, a Windows partition, which is 84GB.

Having inmstalled Ubuntu and Debian 6, I want to experiment with a
different operating system, which requires to be installed in a primary
partition (otherwise, I could instal it in one of the unused partitions).


As you have stated, MS Windows is using 3 primary drives,  you  your 
Linux installations are using the 4th.


Sorry, but there are no primary partitions left.



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Re: Problem with Update repository

2012-03-17 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 17/03/12 08:21, Lisi wrote:

The sources.list used by Bret has one of the CD entries not commented out.
This you have not included in the sources.list as used by you.  Might  this
have caused a problem?  I confess to not seeing how, but it is an anomaly in
the sources.list.

Lisi

I see where you are coming from; yes, I believe local has preference 
over external sources.

Comment out the cd entry  try again.


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Re: Problem with Update repository

2012-03-17 Thread Keith McKenzie

Why I made my suggestion.  :)

In the past, have installed from live media  not been able to access 
external repositories because of the cdrom line in sources.list.



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Re: X-server problem

2012-03-15 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 15/03/12 16:03, Andriy Samsonyuk wrote:


after user login -
X: user not authorized to run the X server
no ~/.xsession-errors
no /var/log/Xorg.0.log

root# xinit
-  everything works fine

what am i missing?




I usually run startx as a user to get it up  running; I'm puzzled by 
your insistence on 'xinit'.   :)



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Re: Debian in a VMware VM and LVM

2012-03-13 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 13/03/12 14:52, Bonno Bloksma wrote:

4)
Why is /dev/sda6 not there yet? What step am I missing?


Ok, after a reboot (it is not a production server yet) the /dev/sda6 is there.
Form here on it was (almost) straight sailing.;-)

   
I would imagine that is because your kernel is/was still using the old 
partition table; until you rebooted.


(Don't know about LVM)


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Re: the missing firmware files are: bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-5.0.0.j3.fw

2012-03-09 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 09/03/12 14:28, Joey L wrote:

I am using an IBM x3650 7979 that i believe has a netextreme network card.
On install of Debian Squeeze - I get the following messege:

the missing firmware files are: bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-5.0.0.j3.fw

does anyone know how i can get around this ?
Make the network card be seen during install ? or after install ?

I have located a file  bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-5.0.0.j3.fw in the debian repository.
But do not know how to or when to use it ?
thanks
mjh


   
Download the module, put it into /lib/firmware, reboot,  your card 
should 'just work'. (This is how I get my wifi cards working.)



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Re: How to report a bug related to multiple packages (insserv, autofs, backuppc)

2012-03-06 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 06/03/12 11:35, Sylvain wrote:

Hey there,

I installed backuppc the other day, configured it and it works fine
except for one thing: it doesn't start at boot. I looked in the
backuppc logs and in the syslog and saw nothing suspicious. If I start
it manually with /etc/init.d/backuppc start, it works just fine. There
are also startup scripts in /etc/rc*.d/. My backuppc version is
3.2.1-2 (I'm running a testing install).

Note that my /var/lib/backuppc directory points to
/removable/sbackup/backuppc which is my external USB HDD mounted by
autofs, which is in /etc/rc*.d/S21autofs (backuppc is
/etc/rc*.d/S21backuppc). After some investigation I found that adding
autofs in the Required-Start section of the insserv overrides of the
backuppc init script solved the problem. Now I'm not sure how to
report the bug. Should I report it against autofs (so that autofs gets
included into $local_fs or in the mountall.sh script but these scripts
have nothing to do with autofs), or in insserv (again so that autofs
gets included into $local_fs, but insserv doesn't have anything to do
with autofs) or in backuppc so that the init script is modified (but
again, backuppc has nothing to do with autofs)?

Thanks for your advice,
Sylvain


   

I think I would call that configuration, not a bug.

How would backuppc know the drive is connected  switched on, if you 
don't tell it.  :)


(Others may need it to run as a cron job; they may backup to tape, etc.)


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Re: Install Abort

2012-03-05 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 05/03/12 10:42, FNU LNU wrote:
i was about to instal debian into one of my laptops and then chose a 
different laptop at the last second...i had already installed my 
debian cd when i realized i was on the wrong laptop...now everytime i 
turn on my computer the first screen that pops up prompts 
install.is there a way to kill this install or do i have to 
install the program and then uninstall it??...
You should be able to switch off, remove the installation media, reboot 
to your previous system.


(The install program tells you when you reach the point of no return.)


Re: Problem with resolution 1366x768.

2012-03-05 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 05/03/12 16:55, Felipe Rozélio wrote:
Good morning, well I used the amd64 debian squeeze in a philips 
monitor had a resolution of 1024x768
and had no problem. I bought a monitor from AOC e943Fwsk 18.5 'and 
then the problems started,
first noticed on the right side there was a thin black belt by cutting 
a small piece of the picture,
I researched and researched and found how to install the nvidia 
drivers and set up. Drivers installed and xorg.conf
created, now restart your pc when rebooted I noticed the fonts 
slightly deformed, was soon set in
the monitor, except that the resolution does not leave 1368x768 50 Hz 
whereas my monitor is 1366x766. after
attempt to do a lot of work and leave the legal resolution without 
that black strip on the right side
cutting some of the image, changed the driver setting in xorg.conf 
instead of nvidia, nv and rebooted
X. When she returned I noticed that the image was further cut down a 
bit and decided the resolution
to 1360x768 and it was perfect, and so it is now that the image is 
complete and uncut.
But anyway there is a mistake because I wanted to use my 1366x768 
resolution with no problems and
I noticed it on many distros, not only in Debian. Has anyone 
experienced the same problem with resolution

wide?

--

/*Felipe Rozélio*/

Sounds like it may just need the monitor auto adjusting, try the 
monitors menu, or if there is an 'auto' button just press it.


(Maybe you have done so, but I thought it worth stating, just in case.)



Re: bash-completion problem

2012-03-04 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 04/03/12 16:20, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hi list,

does anyone know, how to check or reinitialise bash-completition?

The problem:

mkisofs is a link to genisoimage, but the command mkisofs is not known.

I checked

ullhan63@protheus2: ls -la /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ | grep iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2880 Jan 11 14:42 genisoimage
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   917 Jan 11 14:42 growisofs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root11 Jan 11 14:42 mkisofs -  genisoimage

but everything seems ok. The problem appears only on my 32-bit EEPC, which got
(as far as I could see) an identical configuration like my working 64-bit-
machine.

Any other hints?

Regards

Hans



   

You could  add 'alias mkisofs=genisoimage' to your .bashrc file.

The next time you open a shell/terminal mkisofs will bring up genisoimage.


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Re: after updating, close the lid won't sleep

2012-03-02 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 02/03/12 13:29, lina wrote:

Hi,

How to examine close the lid settings,

Long time ago I followed a suggestion (forget exactly how), it worked
well, once close the lid, it got sleep

today update something like

desktop-file-utils0.18-1
gnome-menus3.2.0.1-2
man-db2.6.1-1
hicolor-icon-theme0.12-1
doc-base0.10.3
glx-alternative-fglrx0.2.1
menu2.1.46
libaudiofile10.3.3-3
libaudiofile-dev0.3.3-3
libexo-common0.6.2-4
libexo-helpers0.6.2-4
libexo-1-00.6.2-4
exo-utils0.6.2-4
libfribidi00.19.2-2
libgarcon-common0.1.10-1
libgarcon-1-00.1.10-1
libpng12-01.2.47-1
libpng12-dev1.2.47-1
libpulse01.1-3
libpulse-mainloop-glib01.1-3
libpulse-dev1.1-3
libraw1394-112.0.8-1
libsamplerate00.1.8-3
libtiff43.9.6-1
libtiffxx0c23.9.6-1
libtiff4-dev3.9.6-1
libsdl-image1.21.2.12-1
libtag1-vanilla1.7-2
libtag1c2a1.7-2
libthai-data0.1.17-1
libthai00.1.17-1
fglrx-atieventsd1:12-1-2
libfglrx1:12-1-2
libfglrx-ia321:12-1-2
fglrx-driver1:12-1-2
fglrx-glx-ia321:12-1-2
libgl1-fglrx-glx1:12-1-2
usb-modeswitch-data20120120-1
libaccountsservice00.6.15-4
accountsservice0.6.15-4
anacron2.3-15
clisp1:2.49-8.1
dictionaries-common1.12.4
eject2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-10
libgimp2.02.6.12-1
gimp-data2.6.12-1
libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-01.6.3-1
libwebkitgtk-1.0-common1.6.3-1
libwebkitgtk-1.0-01.6.3-1
gimp2.6.12-1
git-man1:1.7.9.1-1
git1:1.7.9.1-1
gitk1:1.7.9.1-1
libhttp-message-perl6.03-1
git-gui1:1.7.9.1-1
git-email1:1.7.9.1-1
git-daemon-run1:1.7.9.1-1
git-cvs1:1.7.9.1-1
git-arch1:1.7.9.1-1
gitweb1:1.7.9.1-1
libhttp-daemon-perl6.01-1
git-doc1:1.7.9.1-1
htop1.0.1-1
libfile-which-perl1.09-1
libwebkitgtk-3.0-common1.6.3-1
libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-01.6.3-1
libwebkitgtk-3.0-01.6.3-1
libphonon44:4.6.0.0-1
libvariable-magic-perl0.48-1
pdftk1.44-5
pulseaudio1.1-3
pulseaudio-esound-compat1.1-3
pulseaudio-utils1.1-3
pulseaudio-module-x111.1-3
fglrx-control1:12-1-2
fglrx-modules-dkms1:12-1-2
liblwp-protocol-https-perl6.03-1
libwww-perl6.04-1
git-svn1:1.7.9.1-1
dictionaries-common1.12.4
menu2.1.46

then it's not work,

Just wonder where which package affect the lid close behavior
and where to start to check,

Thanks with best regards,


   

System  Preferences  Power Management (on Gnome)


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Re: rsync

2012-03-02 Thread Keith McKenzie

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 06:33, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:



[2] When I ssh to a server, can I set up the terminal the same as when we
open a tab in termial, it will be in that directory of the present
tab's directory,
can I open a tab in termial, with ssh connected, can it also in that
server's directory, not home directory?
 
If you mean, can you run two terminals under one ssh session, then yes, 
if you have 'screen' installed on the server. (man screen)



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Re: octave linked to octave-3.6.1 but only octave-3.6.1 will start octave

2012-03-01 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 01/03/12 15:24, Edward C. Jones wrote:


262067 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Mar 21  2011 python - python2.6
262052 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2288272 Dec 26  2010 python2.6


1584647 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff   12 Feb 29 22:14 octave - octave-3.6.1
1584644 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 7346 Feb 29 22:14 octave-3.6.1
  Why do python and octave behave differently?  What do I
change so I can run octave by typing octave?



Could be the (group) ownership


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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

2012-02-29 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 29/02/12 08:16, David Baron wrote:


It is still there.

Manually stopping the daemon does not produce any error or output and the
removal error remains.


   

Maybe 'deborphan' could help; no harm in trying.


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Re: Setting /tmp size.

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 09:36, Jon Dowland wrote:

On 28/02/12 08:43, C.T.F. Jansen wrote:

Greetings,

The 100 Mb recommended size for /tmp is far too small and out of date.
Some of the others including / are also too small.


Where is this recommendation?


I ran out of space for krita, had a look, and decided 5Gb would be a
safe over estimate. krita now works.

Prior to the /tmp partition increase I put a symlink in /tmp for Krita's
big directory to the partition with the home directories which happens
to have plenty of space. Crude but effective. You might have difficulty
with variable directory names.


Does krita support $TMPDIR (setting it to a variable where you want 
temporary files and programs should use that instead of /tmp)?  If not 
perhaps the developers would accept patches to make it do so.


I tend to set TMPDIR=$HOME/tmp in order to have my temporary files in
a private directory. In times gone by I encrypted $HOME (right now I 
have everything encrypted but I typically don't do that)


I believe the recommended sizes refer to a base setup  advise extra 
space for a system with 'X' or databases, etc.


Debian used to (still does?) recommend sizes, but they where always 
minimum recommended sizes.



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Re: [OT]: Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 15:06, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 28/02/12 15:16, lina wrote:

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Lorenzo Sutton
lorenzofsut...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 28/02/12 15:06, lina wrote:


Hi,

I wonder:

1]

can the output like:

5
3
1
5
3

direct it into the LibreOffice directly. without copy and paste.

2]

Is it possible to do a quick sum calculations for some output on 
terminal.


like the sum of

3
16
3
3
9


Thanks for your suggestions,


I think it would be a little easier if you depicted the scenario ;)


I am not quite so sure about depicted the scenario, the problem I
faced is that

$  somescipt | awk '{print $1}'
[u'5',
1.0
2.0
2.0
2.0
1.0
2.0
2.0
1.0
1.0
1.0
2.0
3.0
1.0
1.0
2.0
2.0
1.0
2.0
2.0
2.0
2.0
2.0
1.0

I am interested the sum of those numbers. so curious are there some 
quick way.


No awk expert, but I'd bet it can do sums... Have a look at this:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3096259/bash-command-to-sum-a-column-of-numbers 



Lorenzo.



If you're not sure, these are what you are looking for :-

awk '{ sum += $1; }
 END { print sum; }' $@


awk '{ sum += $1; } END { print sum; }' $@


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Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 15:34, Ramon Hofer wrote:

Hi all

I have described my problem a while ago and now I got a solution to my
Ubuntu bug report:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/880316
See posts 5 and 6

Post 5 sounds great but I can't find how to unpack the initrd.gz. Can you
help me with that?

So I tried to do the way post 6 describes. I have installed debian-6.0.4-
i386-CD-1.iso after putting it on a usb stick with unetbootin.
Then I tried to install gcc but it can't find the installation medium
anymore. So I mounted the created usb stick to /media/cdrom/ as I was
told but still I get the same message.

Please can you help me?


Best regards
Ramon


   
Just for reference; you can use dd to a pendrive with Debian install 
disks, they are what are known as hybrid iso's


(As has been pointed out by someone else); initrd.gz is a small gzipped 
file system that can be accessed by 'gunzip initrd.gz'



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Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 15:34, Ramon Hofer wrote:

So I tried to do the way post 6 describes. I have installed debian-6.0.4-
i386-CD-1.iso after putting it on a usb stick with unetbootin.
Then I tried to install gcc but it can't find the installation medium
anymore. So I mounted the created usb stick to /media/cdrom/ as I was
told but still I get the same message.

Please can you help me?


Best regards
Ramon


   
Take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list; you will need to add Debian 
repositories, most likely.



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Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 16:03, Ramon Hofer wrote:


I was looking for the initrd.gz in the installation medium. I found two:
/install.386/gtk/initrd.gz and /install.386/initrd.gz

They aren't the same.
Why are there two versions of them?
Is it ok to take this one: /install.386/initrd.gz?

   


/install.386/gtk/initrd.gz is for a graphical insall and /install.386/initrd.gz 
is for a text based install



Ok, now I have a file called initrd. But I don't know what to do with it.

I found this page:
http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-initrd.html

Chapter 6.4 Examining the initrd contents tells me to:
mount -t cramfs /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-1-686 /mnt/initrd -o loop

So I took my gunzipped file and tried to mount it into a directory. But I
get the message that it's a wrong fs type.

What am I doing wrong?


Best regards
Ramon

   
I don't think you did anything wrong; but it would seem that the 
extracted filesystem is not a cramfs file system. At one time they were 
just ext2fs, but times change.


If no one else can offer help on the file system used, you might like to 
try the debian wiki, they might have the correct file system in use.



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Re: Help needed to repair a damaged dual boot Debian System

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 16:31, Bernard wrote:



What did I do since my last post ?   As Richard suggested, I opened up 
the box and checked cables around the cdrom hardware. I noticed 
something that I thought weird at first: the CDROM blocks were 
connected to a cable where one could read: HD cable, while the HD 
was linked to a cable that read CDROM cable. I then swaped cables, 
and tested. The only difference I got was that my Linux system now had 
to be booted on /dev/hdc3, while it did boot on /dev/hda3 before. 
Still, none of my CDs did operate on Debian, one did operate on MSWIN, 
none would boot an autoboot system CD.


This being done, I decided to unplug one of my two CDROM drives, the 
one that did not work on either system. I removed all cables from that 
drive. This helped a lot, so it seems. My Debian system still boots on 
/dev/hdc3, but now my only CDROM drive does work on /dev/hda (hda as 
is, not on hda1 or whatever, which I did find weird though). It does 
work, and also I am now able to boot on a system CD !!  So, I could 
possibly decide to re-install... I could also decide to use my machine 
as is since it now operates almost as it did before, with only one 
CDROM and no CD writer (but I don't need that on this particular 
machine) ; I just changed the /boot/grub/menu.lst and replaced 
/dev/sda3 by /dev/hdc3.


However... Something still has to be wrong with this machine. Why does 
it now reckognises my HD and CD drives as /dev/hdc (hdc1 for MSWIN, 
hdc2 for swap space and hdc3 for Debian system) and /dev/hda for the 
now unique CDROM drive while it previously did reckognise these 
pieces of hardware as SCSI drives (/dev/sda1, sda2, sda3 for the HD... 
Nothing shows if I type:


Thanks in advance for you explanations and advices.


Sounds like your cdrom drives may have their jumpers set to primary 
rather than secondary.


Possible explanation for sd becoming hd; you altered the cables between 
your drives.



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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

2012-02-28 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 28/02/12 18:28, Camaleón wrote:

Get error: update-rc.d: warning: postgresql-8.1 stop runlevel arguments

(0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (S 0 1 6)

How do I get rid of it.
 

(...)

Despite the above error which I've also seen when you stop/restart/remove
may of the init scripts, is the package still installed?

dpkg -l | grep postgre

Greetings,

   
I think the error message is telling you that it was started, or an 
attempt to start it in your default run level. (update-rc.d)


You can't get rid of a package, or at least , I don't think you can, if 
it is being loaded/run from your start up scripts. So stop the 
postgresgl daemon first before trying to remove the package.



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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 27/02/12 10:11, Weaver wrote:

Hello one and all.

I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
what's good?
Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.

I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.

re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
stable, etc,?

Thanking you for any time and trouble.
Regards,

Weaver.
   

You'll have to work at understanding how to browse with them.

I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links',  'elinks'; I 
didn't get on with any of them.


The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript  flash, 
etc. They don't conform to www standards.



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Re: ext browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 27/02/12 12:58, Johann Spies wrote:

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:32:29PM +0200, Keith McKenzie wrote:

   

I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links',  'elinks'; I
didn't get on with any of them.

The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript  flash,
etc. They don't conform to www standards.
 

links2 handles javascript and can be used as in graphical mode also.

Regards
Johann
   

Thanks for that nugget of info; I may give that a go sometime.


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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

2012-02-27 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 27/02/12 16:15, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:46:38 -0500, Tom H wrote:

   

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com  wrote:
 

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0500, Tom H wrote:

   

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com  wrote:
 

Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE)
and issue xterm from there?
   

No X, no xterm. :(
 

Ouch!

Cannot be run without the X part? :-?
   

:)
 

Mmm, no dice?

Okay, there has to be a way to run xterm with the X server running but no
KDE env in place... Maybe from a remote ssh session.

Greetings,

   

Will it not run from startx on another terminal; i.e. start in console mode.

I thought to start KDE you run startkde.


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Re: wireless is disabled

2012-02-24 Thread Keith McKenzie
A good book for learning base linux commands is Linux in a Nutshell / O'Reilly.
A good 'book' for Linux in general is 'RUTE',  can be found here :-
http://freecode.com/projects/rute

On 24/02/2012, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Florian Kulzer
 debian-li...@florian-kulzer.eu wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 00:36:02 +0800, lina wrote:
 Supplementary Information:

 # nm-tool

 NetworkManager Tool

 State: disconnected

 - Device: eth0
 -
   Type:              Wired
   Driver:            tg3
   State:             unmanaged

  [snip: eth0 looks normal to me for an unmanaged device]

 - Device: wlan0
 
   Type:              802.11 WiFi
   Driver:            b43
   State:             unavailable
   Default:           no
   HW Address:        E0:F8:47:0A:B0:D8

   Capabilities:

   Wireless Properties
     WEP Encryption:  yes
     WPA Encryption:  yes
     WPA2 Encryption: yes

   Wireless Access Points

 It should be possible to change the line State: unavailable to State:
 disconnected by running:

  nmcli nm wifi on

 Thanks, this works.

 How can I know enough commands to use.
 are there some hand-book (terse ones) for it? so I may recite some
 (hope not sounds so silly, might a bit though).

 In the past (maybe till future), one channel is learning form
 people/list, another channel is in the process of google-searching the
 problem.
 Sometimes read man pages, so much information and I just got lost so soon.


 If this does not work then it might be necessary to install the package
 rfkill and use

  rfkill list

 Just installed.

 Thanks with best regards,

 to check if an RF killswitch has inadvertently been activated. Post any
 output or error messages that you may get from these commands.

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Re: Relavant mailing list - Debian Live CD????

2012-02-24 Thread Keith McKenzie
http://live.debian.net/  is the home page, which has a link to
http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/, which is what you seem to be
looking for.

On 24/02/2012, Andreas Rönnquist mailingli...@gusnan.se wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:17:44 -0600
 Richard Owlett rowl...@pcnetinc.com wrote:

 In the past month I'm certain that I saw a reference to a
 Live CD  mailing list.
 IIRC it was in a sig.
 I don't see it at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
 Its evidently not an official list ;)
 Guidance please.


 This is probably what you are looking for

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/

 - I found it through this page:

 http://lists.debian.org/devel.html

 (Going from Developers on http://lists.debian.org )

 best regards
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Re: a quick Q: what is the .alias for

2012-02-24 Thread Keith McKenzie
An alias is one word that is another word for the same thing.
An alias associates one word with another.

From man bash :-
ALIASES
   Aliases allow a string to be substituted for a word when it is used  as
   the  first  word  of  a  simple command.  The shell maintains a list of
   aliases that may be set and unset with the alias  and  unalias  builtin
   commands  (see  SHELL  BUILTIN COMMANDS below).  The first word of each
   simple command, if unquoted, is checked to see if it has an alias.   If
   so,  that word is replaced by the text of the alias.  The characters /,
   $, `, and = and any of the shell metacharacters or  quoting  characters
   listed above may not appear in an alias name.  The replacement text may
   contain any valid shell input,  including  shell  metacharacters.   The
   first  word  of  the replacement text is tested for aliases, but a word
   that is identical to an alias being expanded is not expanded  a  second
   time.   This  means  that  one may alias ls to ls -F, for instance, and
   bash does not try to recursively expand the replacement text.   If  the
   last  character  of  the  alias value is a blank, then the next command
   word following the alias is also checked for alias expansion.

   Aliases are created and listed with the alias command, and removed with
   the unalias command.

   There  is no mechanism for using arguments in the replacement text.  If
   arguments are needed, a shell function should be  used  (see  FUNCTIONS
   below).

   Aliases  are not expanded when the shell is not interactive, unless the
   expand_aliases shell option is set using shopt (see the description  of
   shopt under SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS below).

   The  rules  concerning  the  definition and use of aliases are somewhat
   confusing.  Bash always reads at  least  one  complete  line  of  input
   before  executing  any  of  the  commands  on  that  line.  Aliases are
   expanded when a command is read, not when it is  executed.   Therefore,
   an  alias definition appearing on the same line as another command does
   not take effect until the next line of input  is  read.   The  commands
   following the alias definition on that line are not affected by the new
   alias.  This behavior is also an issue  when  functions  are  executed.
   Aliases  are  expanded when a function definition is read, not when the
   function is executed, because a function definition is  itself  a  com‐
   pound command.  As a consequence, aliases defined in a function are not
   available until after that function is executed.  To  be  safe,  always
   put  alias definitions on a separate line, and do not use alias in com‐
   pound commands.

   For almost every purpose, aliases are superseded by shell functions.

I hope that makes it clear   :)

On 24/02/2012, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 /lib/modules/3.2.5mj-lina/modules.alias
 /lib/modules/3.1.13.1-mj-lina/modules.alias

 I don't know what the .alias stands for,

 Thanks for any explainations,

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Re: a quick Q: what is the .alias for

2012-02-24 Thread Keith McKenzie
But the OP had already requested a place/book to learn about basic
linux commands earlier, so the post is OK in my opinion.   :)

On 24/02/2012, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:24:23 +0800, lina wrote:

 Hi,

 /lib/modules/3.2.5mj-lina/modules.alias
 /lib/modules/3.1.13.1-mj-lina/modules.alias

 I don't know what the .alias stands for,

 Thanks for any explainations,

 Would it not have been quicker and easier to try file and then less
 on one of these rather than post?


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