Re: solved: emacs: ugly characters

[Leandro DUTRA]

2011/7/2 lee :
>
> Well, I switched back to fvwm-crystal after using KDE for a while

Because of Emacs, after trying Unity and Gnome Shell, I am happily
settled on StumpWM.


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Re: migrate from cobol to postgresl

[Leandro DUTRA]

2011/6/30 abdelkader belahcene :
> Is there a software or procedure to migrate DB from COBOL to SQL ( or
> postgresql)

Get the Cobol copies (data definition), understand them, create
PostgreSQL relations (tables).

Read Cobol code, translate into SQL/PSM or your language of choice.

It is really intellectual work, no tool will help you.


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Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice Questions

[Leandro DUTRA]

2011/6/29 John W Foster :
> 1. Why is Debian switching to LibreOffice, per the posting I saw a few
> days ago?

Because the community has switched to LibreOffice.


> 2. Is OpenOffice still going to be supported?

Perhaps by Oracle, the Apache foundation, IBM or whomever may be
interestested, not by Debian, unless some maintainer decides it is worth his
while.


> 3. What makes LibreOffice better than OpenOffice?

Community, which translates into development, support and bug fixing critical
mass.

For now, this holds true, with LibreOffice developing faster, deeper
and better than OpenOffice.org since Oracle, after Sun, declined to fulfill
their promise of involving the community in the development of OpenOffice.org,
and furthermore declined to get involved in the community aroung the Document
foundation and LibreOffice.

In other words, the .org in OpenOffice is a sham, and has been exposed
as such by the Document foundation and LibreOffice.

I would add that copyleft also makes LibreOffice better, but that is
at least slightly more controversial.


> Now I'm concerned that a
> large body of work covering several years will have to be 'ported' to a
> new format & that I will have to learn a lot of new stuff.

No, indeed LibreOffice inherits the same compatibility and data formats as
OpenOffice.org does, and the community which defined the ODF is behind
LibreOffice today, not OpenOffice.org.  Furthermore, the licensing model
behind both projects ensure it is easier for LibreOffice to follow
developments from OpenOffice.org than the reverse.


> Any rational comments are appreciated.

I hope I was rational, and clear, enough.


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Re: [OT] Google search default lang.

[Leandro DUTRA]

2011/6/19 Lisi :
>
> Google -> language tools (under "advanced") -> preferences

Even better, set the system’s or the user account’s language.


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Re: LoXneRTbyKmq user?

[Leandro DUTRA]

2011/3/14 consul tores :
>
> chkrootkit= nothing

clamav?

Of course, you can just remove it… but it would be a pity not to
discover who or what has put it there.


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RES: Want Debian mail pkg to replace MsOutlook (to MsExchange)

[Leandro Dutra]

> Yes, you can use Netscape or any other mail client which 
> supports IMAP4. This is the
> protocol you need to talk with Exchange Server. As an added 
> bonus Netscape supports
> LDAP which you can use to search the directory on the 
> Exchange Server. I use this
> myself (well, I'm using Netscape from WinNT 8( so I know it 
> works). Just use your NT
> domain login and password.


Doesn't this needs some special configuration at the M$ Exchange
server?  I've been trying to connect, but I can't.


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RES: Scanners: Compatibility with Linux

[Leandro Dutra]

> 2. Should I get USB, Parallel Port or SCSI?
> I've already got a ZIP drive and printer on the parallel port, so
> was wondering if it was a good idea to hang yet another device off it.
> The SCSI scanners appear to be quite a bit more expensive. USB
> ones are comparable with the parallel port ones, but is the USB
> support in Linux good enought yet?

By all means SCSI is superior.  USB won't get much data thru,
otherwise it is OK; but the Linux support isn't quite here yet.

Parallel shouldn't be used for anything besides printers.  Even you
Zip Drive would breath better in a SCSI, USB or 1394 port.


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RES: X server crash.

[Leandro Dutra]

> 1. hsync in kHz: I choose 31.5: standard VGA, 640x480 @ 60 
> Hz, as mine is 
> a 640x480 STN LCD capable of 256 colors (although the manual 
> says it can 
> use external VGA monitor of three types (640x480, 31.5kHz; 900x600, 
> 35.5kHz for 256 colors; 1024x768, 35.5kHz for 256 colors).

External VGA is not the issue, with LCD displays usually the
limitator is the panel, not the VGA interface.


> 2. vertical sync range: here's the puzzle.  I have no idea 
> what to do.  I 
> chose 50-70, 50-90, 50-100, none worked so far.
> 
> 3. identifier for monitor definition: no clue what to do.
> 
> 4. vendor name of monitor: CTX, I suppose.
> 
> 5. model name of monitor: no clue what to do.
> 
> 6. server: I choose XF86_VGA server.
> 
> 8. video card definition: no idea.
> 
> 9. vendor name of video card: no idea.
> 
> 10. model name of video card: no idea.

It seems you really need to know about you video card... X really
really wants to know about it.

You can read your notebook's manual, or search places like the
HOW-TOs or the notebook links in http://www.linux.org./ in order to discover
something about your video; or even go to debian-laptop and ask about it.


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RES: Estou preparando uma revista

[Leandro Dutra]

> > A Debian e' muito superior a RH. Ano podemos continuar 
> assistindo
> > essa palhaçada da Conectiva.
> 
>   Tá aqui a minha justificativa por topar fazer até 
> gratuitamente. Não
> agüento mais escutar falar em Linux e escutar o nome RedHat!!!, muito
> menos Conectiva!!!

Tá bom, agora me expliquem por que essa bronca toda.


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RES: I NEED info on XML TOOLS

[Leandro Dutra]

> Just what it says. I am seeking any comments on software development
> tools and applications that utilize/are aware of XML. I want 
> tools that
> will run on LINUX--I do not care if they are Open Source, commercial,
> free,  or not for now. ANY ideas references suggestions are 
> appreciated
> especially if you have any previous EXPERIENCE with this.

http://debian.org./News/


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RE: programmes to turn emacs text in WinWord

[Leandro Dutra]

> I want to work with Linux but where I am, I am the only one.

Welcome to Linux!


> Does anybody know if there are programmes to assure compatibility between
> emacs (or another editor) and MS Word ? Even under licence, not only free.

First thing to learn is that Emacs isn't a word processor (yet),
it is just a text editor -- but the best one, IMHO.

If you want strict M$ Word compatibility, go for WordPerfect,
Applix or StarOffice.  There are alternatives even more capable than
Word, like LyX and LaTeX or even SGML -- but they will not be
compatible!


> Or maybe somehow using Netscape as text editor ?

No!


> After all we can not build a wall to separate the world in MS users and
> Linux users.

As someone already pointed out, Micro$oft makes a point of
never using an available standard...


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RE: motherboard ???

[Leandro Dutra]

> i dont really have a debian question but i have a motherboard question..

Well then this question shouldn't have been sent here...

Althought we will be pleased to help you with any Linux
related question, hardware questions would be better answered
in hardware-specific forums.


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RE: Festplatte partitionieren

[Leandro Dutra]

> Hallo !


I can't understand a word of German (only English, Portuguese and a
little bit of Spanish), so only thing I can do to help you is ask that
you subscribe to the German-speaking Debian users' list.

debian-user-de 
This mailing list is the main mailing list for German speaking
users. To subscribe to the list send "subscribe debian-user-de" to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/  To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe
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RE: If kernel 2.2 gets out before christmas, will slink be releas ed with it?

[Leandro Dutra]

> The subject says all. I'd like to know if there is any plan to include
> kernel 2.2 in slink or will we wait for potato?

No!  Slink is frozen, that is, can get only bug and security fixes.
New features and new versions must be included only in unstable
distributions.


> If slink comes out with kernel 2.0, will the binutils and other be able 
> to work with kernel 2.2 when it's released?

Since you are using Debian, you will probably have less risks if you
wait for the new kernel testing and integration.  But there should be
no difference to the applications, since they interface not with the
kernel but with the C library, glibc 2.


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RE: beginner: mouse jitters

[Leandro Dutra]

> I am trying to get the mouse running on an NEC powermate 486 sx-25 i.
> When installing the mouse driver from floppy,  a message says,
> No module parameters.
> Depends on misc.o
> and the driver installation usually fails.
> When the driver does install and I run vgacardgames there is no pointer.
> When I quit the game there is a message saying that the mouse must be
> configured in /etc/vga/libvga.config,   where I add the line,   mouse
PS2.

One of the few things I really do not like in Linux is the mouse
interface.  I hope this will be fixed soon, but for now there are at
least two different mouse drivers.  One is the driver used by the X
interface, configured with xf86config or XF86Setup; the other is used
by console programs, called gpm and configured with gpmconf -- or
something like that.

Which of them you tried?


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RE: about the HOWTO's

[Leandro Dutra]

> Can I read the HOWTO's in html or text on the www somewhere, I cannot as
yet get them on my linux system?

http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX.html

But I hear SunSite will become MetaLab, so in some months
expect the URL to change to metalab.unc.edu
>  
> 
> 
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RE: recommendations for an X news client?

[Leandro Dutra]

> I'm looking for something better than knews and netscape's news client --
> any suggestions?

Try GNUS... runs under EMACS or XEmacs.



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RE: Monitor vs X servers

[Leandro Dutra]

> Well, in running XF86Setup, it wouldn't bring up an xterm when
> SVGA was specified (nor S3, if I recall correctly).
0---51525354555657--
You were sure you installed the X server *before* running
XF86Setup, weren't you?  And also a window manager, which you will need
before you can launch a xterm.


> My hope
> was that someone might be familiar enough with X11 stuff to
> point out either a workaround (e.g., manual edits to Xconfig?)
> or a non-Debian X server that could be downloaded from someone's
> web site.

The only X servers not available from Debian are the ones at
SuSe or the last version of XFree86 if there wasn't enough time to
integrate them into Debian.  And manual edits to configuration files
should be avoided -- there are no real problems xf86config or XF86Setup
won't take care of.  Provided you installed and specified the correct
X server.

Would someone knowledgeable at the list find what is the name of
the X server for the Diamond Stealth card or the S3 Trio chipset?



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RE: Network Configuration

[Leandro Dutra]

> How can I re-configure my network after installing linux?

You use the ifconfig command.  Use the

man ifconfig

to learn about it.

This only configures the running system.  In order
to keep the changes even if you reboot, you need to change
the /etc/init.d/network file.



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RE: Is this really the right thing to do?

[Leandro Dutra]

> > This feature would, I fear, strain the dpkg system even more.  I'm
> > starting to see occasional failures under dselect/apt/dpkg that
> > fortunately, for now, are transient (i.e. rerun dselect/apt and the
> > failure doesn't reoccur).  It suggests to me that we are pushing our
> > package management software beyond its capability.
> 
>   I have put off continuning client changeover from slackware to
> debian due to these same concerns.  Not to mention the condition of
> the current slink.

I do not know exactly which failures are these... but I
notice most of the problems with packages in the list are
because people aren't using the stable (hamm) version.

Sure you can use unstable (potato) or frozen (slink). But
they are not intended for general use, so in production or
end-use environments you shouldn't be using slink anyway. If
you use the distributions as they are intended, the stable
will be one of the best (more reliable, robust) Linux systems
available!

I would suggest that, as apt is still in development, these
failures in non-stable environments should be expected.  But
based on the history of Debian, they will surely have been fixed
when slink replaces hamm as the stable distribution.



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RE: Monitor vs X servers

[Leandro Dutra]

> There is only one card, displaying the info through DOS MSD command
> shows a subset of info for the VESA stuff, which I have no idea if
> it's used or not.

Oh... that S3 Trio is the chipset of the card.


> The card is supported, my question is what X servers will both the
> card and the monitor support, or am I stuck with VGA16 for my server?

The X server has nothing to do with the monitor.  I have
no access to the Net or to my Debian machine from where I am
now, so I can't check which is the right X server.  Certainly,
if the card is supported it means support above VGA16.

Perhaps the SVGA X server, but I am not sure.


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RE: Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!

[Leandro Dutra]

> I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command 
> "adduser"

I've never seen something like that.  Perhaps others at the list?
This seems to be a very interesting problem!


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RE: please help me: problems for users!

[Leandro Dutra]

> I've just recently installed the Debian sytem on my computer. It works 
> perfectly for the "root", but not for the other users. For example when 

> Information on user id 1000 not found.   

It seems you have a corrupt users database.

Did you choose NIS or shadow when installing?

And how did you create the non-root users?



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RE: Monitor vs X servers

[Leandro Dutra]

> Video card is a Diamond Stealth 1MB DRAM, and strictly from
> possibly impaired memory, an ISA card with S3 Trio VESA something-
> or-other, probably new in 1996.

Which of these two cards you are actually using?

The X server should be choosing according to the card.
There is a list of supported cards for each X server, I
think in that Hardware-Compatibility-HowTo.


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RE: Modules and the kernel

[Leandro Dutra]

> > AFAIK the only modules which need such stuff are the sound modules
> 
> In fact, the do not really *need* it. They (OSS makers) inserted the check
> just to avoid problems like "your module kills my kernel" - because they
> sell it, so they have responcibility even when user messes it up. But

Why then even the free sound drivers need to be compiled with
the kernel in the 2.0 version?


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FW: Modules and the kernel -- SORRY

[Leandro Dutra]

Wrong mailing list, sorry!

> > AFAIK the only modules which need such stuff are the sound modules
> 
> In fact, the do not really *need* it. They (OSS makers) inserted the check
> just to avoid problems like "your module kills my kernel" - because they
> sell it, so they have responcibility even when user messes it up. But

Why the even the free sound drivers need to be compiled with
the kernel in the 2.0 version?

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RE: Modules and the kernel

[Leandro Dutra]

> > AFAIK the only modules which need such stuff are the sound modules
> 
> In fact, the do not really *need* it. They (OSS makers) inserted the check
> just to avoid problems like "your module kills my kernel" - because they
> sell it, so they have responcibility even when user messes it up. But

Why the even the free sound drivers need to be compiled with
the kernel in the 2.0 version?


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RE: Is this really the right thing to do?

[Leandro Dutra]

> > >   The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package
> > grouping'
> > > feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the
> > > relationship between packages.
> 
> Is this a documentation issue? Maybe there is a requirement for a document
explaining the general
> layout of the packages. The grouping of packages seems to be ok.

No, I think the original poster thought of a kind of hierarchical
grouping where each program/function would be the root of a little tree
detailing all its packages... something like

X-+-xbase
  |
  +-xservers
  |
  +-xfonts

Anyway, this is a thread that could (should) be in the debian-devel
group...

There is the apt package in development, all such new features
probably should be implemented in apt.


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RE: More dselect wishes

[Leandro Dutra]

> Bottom line: suggestions can do no harm, and they may help.

I agree.  It's just that people keep asking for things every time,
and do not even give a try at implementation... some people know they could
contribute, but others think this is just like Microsoft, where you ask
and perhaps someone will fulfill your wish.  So it will be no harm
remembering people they can always do something themselves.

Also, perhaps it would be better to forward such suggestions to
debian-devel or another list like that...


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RE: An alternative to glint (reading rpm's)

[Leandro Dutra]

> what.  Is there a way to see what these applications
> are, without re-installing redhat???

There is a package to enable the use of .rpm's in Debian, it is
called... I forget the name!  I'm without access to the web or to a
Debian machine now, please look for it in dselect or on the search
machine in http://www.debian.org./


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RE: Please help with Networking

[Leandro Dutra]

> Alan thanks for advice but i'm a linux/unix newbie
> you lost me after the network card
> 1. make sure that your network card is supported--yes
> >2. make sure kernel has support enabled (compiled in or module)--how to
> check??

It will only have kernel if you recompiled your kernel.  If it is
module, check running modconf and looking in the "net" section.


> >3. setup ip & host in /etc/hosts-how to set up??

Add a line:

ip-address  hostname

in the /etc/hosts file.


> >4. setup dns in /etc/resolv.conf--how to set up?

Add a line here also.  For the format, do:

man resolv.conf


> >5. reboot - check that route is not setup for you--how to check??

Do not know also.  Anyone?


> >5a. setup route, like (on debian, it's etc/init.d/network), find the file
> by grepping on "ifconfig lo"--grepping??
> >
> > ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0

"to grep" means getting the output of a command into the command
"grep", which will give only the lines containing the specified string.

Like:

ifconfig lo | grep "string-to-look-for"


You can always do a:

man command-name

to find about the "command-name" use and sintax.  If you need only
remembering something you already knew, you can use:

command-name -h

Which will give you a command summary.


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RE: Is this really the right thing to do?

[Leandro Dutra]

>   The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package
grouping'
> feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the
> relationship between packages.

Do anyone knows what the dpkg developers think about the issue?


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RE: Automatizing installation on several machines

[Leandro Dutra]

> But since I'm not very experienced with networking my problem is: how
> to install the /home directories on the server (any user should be
> able to work on every machine which is available, so I think it
> would be the best way to export the user directories with NFS).

Besides exporting the user directories with NFS, you need to define
your users in NIS, NIS+ or something similar.  The same service (NIS,
etc.) will have to define also the mounts that contain the user
directories.

Never done that (there weren't many users nor machines enough to
justify taking the time from more urgent things), so for the details
ask someone more experient than me.


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RE: Dselect hard crash; now dselect won't run

[Leandro Dutra]

>   (Debian 1.1 - slink)

You mean 2.1?


> 11:06pm ~$ dselect
> dselect: error in loading shared libraries
> /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol:
> __register_frame_info
> 
> I attempted reinstalling both libc6 and libstdc++2.9, but it didn't
> help.  The file mentioned above does exist.  Any clues?  Or is my root
> system hosed beyond repair?

Did you removed first, then reinstalled, or simply tried to install
again?


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RE: Debian 2.0 (Cheapbyets CD) EZSTART does not recognize CD-ROM IRQ

[Leandro Dutra]

> hdd: IRQ probe failed (0)
> hdd: IRQ probe failed (0)
> hdd: Toshiba CD ROM  XM-6102D ATAPI CDROM DRIVE
> hdd: IRQ probe failed (0)
> ide0 at 0x160-0x1fg, 0x36 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
> 
> If I then try to mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom my
> system hangs in the Left-Alt F2 virtual terminal, and I have to
> reboot.

No use trying to do that if the CD couldn't be found by the
kernel...


> I would like to be able to find out what IRQ and i/o address my
> Toshiba CD-ROM is working under.  MSD will not provide this
> information (at least I don't recognize it).  Can I do it from
> the Left-Alt F2 virtual console in EZSTART?
> 
> If I can find out what the irq and i/o address should be (using
> some GNU utility that is available on the Left-Alt F2 virtual
> console), how would I then get the system to accept these values
> for the CD-ROM?

You could check the files under /proc.

And when you find the addresses, use modconf to reinstall the
driver.  It will give you a chance to type any parameter after you
select the driver.


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: Low memory & performance question

[Leandro Dutra]

> The question is - Is Debian going to run worth a d**n on this thing?  The
> primary use will be for learning C and mucking about with shell
> programming. I won't be loading much more then the base system, gcc, g++,
> and vi.

It should be fine *if* you won't do anything heavy in C.  gcc is
about one of the most demanding apps if you start to compile big things
like gcc itself.

If you are going to learn C only there's no need to install g++.

Did you got past that 20-minutes message?


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: how get a pci plug and pray soundcard installation

[Leandro Dutra]

> I run a TerraTec XLerate Soundcard
> -PCI and Plug & Play

> But, unfortuanellety, I can't get the soundcard `swingin'.

Isn't it Windows-only?  If it says it needs Windows, better to
believe it.



Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: Question

[Leandro Dutra]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > When I try to install my packages it says
> > dpkg-perl file not found or renamed
> > 
> > then it tells me where to put it
> > when I search for it though its not there
> > how do I fix this?
> 
>   Never seen this... but if it says "not found or renamed", it would
> be strange if it could be found!
> 
Please give the exact messages you get, and what exactly you
were trying to do, and how.


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: ascd

[Leandro Dutra]

> I use Afterstep as my window manager and I have asmixer installed,
> but I can't find it anywhere on my system.

Run
update-menu

If you still can't find asmixer, try typing
asmixer&
in any xterm (or similar windowed shell).

If asmixer isn't in your path, try
locate asmixer
That requires that you've installed dbupdate, which I think is part
of the GNU fileutils.

If you do not have locate, try:
find / -name "asmixer"



Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: More dselect wishes

[Leandro Dutra]

Please, people!  dselect is free software, under GPL.

Instead of daydreaming about a thousand features, implement them
and submit the patches to the current maintainer!


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: netscape woes

[Leandro Dutra]

> > Not so!  Mozilla may not be the wonderful GPL'd program I would like
it
> > to be, but it's still free.
> > 
> > Unless you consider that Mozilla isn't quite from Netscape...
> > 
> 
> So what happens when AOL decides not to support Mozilla any further?

The joke about Mozilla not being quite from
Netscape^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HAOL is that Mozilla is the name of the strictly
free version of Netscape, which, if still copyrighted by Netscape, is
worked on by everyone.  And as the license is free, even if it's
copyrighted by Netscape it is available for everyone.

If AOL stops supporting Mozilla, it was already released under
a free software license.  So we (the free software community) take
over the development, and that's it.

Once something has been released, everyone who obtained that
thing legally still abide by the original license.  No one can
impose on you modifications on the license terms you have already
obtained. So the software is free forever.



Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: OFFTOPIC: ssh in userspace?

[Leandro Dutra]

> access). Compile ssh (should do without root privileges), do not try
> to install it (this requires root) and run sshd with a port argument. 

If you install it giving your home (or ~/local/) as root, won't it
install nicely under ~/local/ ?


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda

RE: [Fwd: H E L P !!!!]

[Leandro Dutra]

> Your Absolutely right !!
> > If I had the CD I would of used it !
> 
It was just a suggestion... it's so much easier, and many people do
not know they can boot from it, so they install the operating system from
floppies in order to be able to use the CD later.

Anyway, there is so much more packages to install after you get the
OS (operating system) installed, that if you are in the US, Europe or
otherwise could possibly get a CD in a reasonable time frame, it will be
worthwile.  Diskettes aren't reliable, you know.  But all installation can
be done from diskettes, I myself did not have a CD when I did my first
installation.


> My information was you were had knowledgeable on the process of
> > installing
> > this software via raw data floppies as described in installation
> > procedures..
> 
I myself do not know much... other people in the list have more and
better knowledge than me.  Anyway, no knowledge is enough without a full
description of error.  So many little things can go wrong, from a physical
error in the diskette surface to a not-so-clear dialogue, that without the
details we are in the dark.


> > The only Indication of any error was on installation of 2,3 & 4, base
> > 1.44
> > floppies it
> > stated "2 out of 6 " which tells me you used the some of the same raw
> > data
> > for
> > 1.2 floppies as 1.44 ---
> > But there was not any indication of errors ---
> 
Anyway, what is the exact, verbatim message you get when the process
goes wrong?  If you send this details to the list, I am sure someone will be
able to help.

When I asked you for more details, I intended to give other people
in the list who would read your answer better conditions of fixing your
problems, because I myself will not be of much help.  So, you need to send
your answer to the list, not to me personally.  That way other people with
the same problem as you will benefit as well.

Other details that would be important are the machine you have, its
configuration, and which version of Debian GNU/Linux you got.


Still hoping we can help!

RE: [Fwd: H E L P !!!!]

[Leandro Dutra]

> Mr. Joey Hess suggested  I get on this mailing list !!

Send "subscribe" in the body of a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> I'm not too familiar with mailing list protocol

First thing: never send attachments to mailing lists!  Quote the
message instead, deleting all irrelevant lines.


> My problem is I'm loading the system using 1.44 floppies and everything

Do you know you can just boot the CD?  It's faster and far more
reliable...

If you do not have access to the CD, please note that we can only
help if we know exactly what's happening.  So please send the error
messages, or prompts, you get verbatim.

Hope we can help!

Stuck with M$ Exchange.

[Leandro Dutra]

I work at a company which uses only M$ Exchange for email, and a
gateway to SMTP.  I could install Linux on my machine, but would need
a piece of s/w to be able to talk to the Exchange server.  Is there
any thing available?

TIA!



Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
AUREC/Amdocs, Amdocs (Brasil) Ltda
Tel Aviv, Israel