Re: em64t
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to get the best of my machine based on intel core2 (6550), which is compliant with em64t debian arch (at least I thought...) but there is only a amd64 install available, which doesn't want to run on Intel machine... AMD64 == EM64T == x86-64 == x64 All the different names are because companies tried to look cool by naming the same stuff differently. AMD64 is an official name, because AMD did it first, EM64T is Intels' name for the same thing, x86-64 basically sums up both, and x64 is used by Microsoft. Intel Core 2 is an AMD64 processor. IA64 is an entirely different beast - basically Itanium processor only. Ron Johnson wrote: You're mixing arches. em64t *is* the -amd64 architecture, which, obviously, isn't i386 (-686). You can install i386 operating system on AMD64 hardware, because AMD64 is an extended i386. The system will run just fine, but will not be able to use additional features of AMD64 architecture. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGu5JcztOe9mov/y4RAnM7AJ9rUcyLzU2PLCJnUKdaODhP8wNhWQCfXu0Z dC3cQqB3+zZ841kr3FzYXV4= =ddOj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need good file explorer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: IMHO, krusader is file manager done right! It is just awesome! Before that I have tried a lot of file managers such as konqueror, mc, xfe etc., But once I found krusader I stopped searching. I have never been a big fan of gnome, so dont know if something in GNOME beats krusader. There is GNOME Commander (package gnome-commander). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGkrDYztOe9mov/y4RAt6mAJ4kF5CeJYRZckcvb7tX8by6GfQuogCgtrXn NlsiBIGczo+rWgFkAOSVUbQ= =b3Vk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: Which brings us back to my original point; why not RTF? It's apparently a fairly open format, and apparently virtually all word processors can read and write it. I do not know if it is the format itself, or the limitation of the applications I use, but RTF documents loose a lot of formatting, and cannot be expected to look the same even when opened in the same word processor. This is much worse than opening DOC in OpenOffice.org, or opening DOC created in OpenOffice.org in Word. It is great for sharing content with basic formatting, but not for actual documents. Well, that is my experience at least. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGkqwnztOe9mov/y4RAjdrAJ9Ps+m+yO9H6J1sjVE2wpNFtQI3dwCbB5v5 z932Wf0/ZP6fNAHkQX/UJII= =UGXC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk temp monitoring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pol wrote: I have updated the bios and now things are getting better with linux. Until my laptop is plugged in, it is almost cold when touching the lower side, even colder that when ms-windows is running. Good. When it is on battery it gets warmer, but never reaches critical temperature. I have monitored the four T points, noting that when the laptop is unplugged, T1 grows a little, while T4 decreases (here enclosed a graph, in xfig format). It is normal that the systems run a bit warmer on batteries, as the battery itsel warms up. Also some additional power savings may be done by reducing the speed of the fan. I am wondering what parts of the machine are monitored by these T points and whether these data can be correlated with others, to spot the hardware involved in overheating. T1 is obviously the CPU, the others are probably various sensors placed in different locations on your motherboard. It is very likely that only T1 has a fan, so others will always be reported as off. Have a look at lm-sensors package, and especially sensors-detect program - it may provide some additional information. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGWskrztOe9mov/y4RAnNnAKDD4dBO2WGM49U7oClmXCdCWcHDPACfYz22 m9yhRFz9QdAY1KowK137wsM= =494p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk temp monitoring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pol write: Hi all Hello, Often my laptop overheats, although the cpu is not overloaded (according to the 'top' monitor) What do you mean by overheats? Does it become extremely slow, or shuts down? Or does it simply become warm? How do you monitor temperature? Most new laptops run quite warm. The temperature of the motherboard can reach 50 C, and CPU may run at 40 C - 55 C. This is usually normal. The most common reason for overheating is broken ACPI, and (as a result) CPU fans not turning on. Also check if went holes are not clogged with dust, if the machine is not new. I guess the only other component that can get hot is the spinning hard disk. I have tried the command hdparm -S 1 /dev/sda turning off the disk after 5 seconds of inactivity, but nothing has changed. Hard drives use more energy while spinning up and down, than in normal active state. Constant switching between active and standby states will also reduce the lifespan of the disk. It only makes sense if you can get your disk to remain in standby mode for at least 10 minutes, which you will probably not be able to achieve on a full-featured desktop/laptop system. My advice: LET THE DISK SPIN. I guess that it could be due to the system often writing or reading the disk, although the led monitoring the disk access does not light up. The disk should never ever overheat, even under load. If it does, something is terribly wrong. Temperatures between 40 C and 50 C are usually fine. My questions: how do i force the system not to write to disk so often, so that my disk do not start spinning every minutes? The best tool for this is probably laptop-mode-tools. This and a lot of manual tweaking of your entire system. Most likely not worth it. Are the disk and the cpu the only possible causes of heating? More likely CPU only. It produces way more heat than any other component. What facilities to use to tell whether the disk is spinning? To check current the state of you your hardware, run: sudo hdparm -C /dev/hda Check man hdparm for explanation of states. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGWEJ4ztOe9mov/y4RAjB7AKCTNlQOmpk6apGrrILDlRIrBZooKwCgpi1M jPqC4jq+6zxr9UabAbVGo6s= =yU21 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk temp monitoring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pol wrote: Yet, after hours, quiet and cold, the bottom starts warming up, after more hours, in a few minutes, fan starts running at the highest speed, a writing shows up on the screen: 'critical temp reached' (over 100 C) and the machine shuts down. Weird. Please answer the following question: * For how long does it run cool? * Does it get warmer gradually, or suddenly becomes hot? * Does it feel anything like 100 C? It should be fairly hot. * Laptop model? BIOS version? * Is it new machine? * If it is not new, did it work before? * Does it work with proprietary OS? After running your laptop for some time (to let it warp up, so that the temperatures reported wold not be the room temperature): * Post output of uname -a (kernel info). * Post output of cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model (CPU model). * Post output of cat /proc/acpi/processor/*/* (CPU info). * Post output of acpi -t (current temperatures). * Post output of cat /proc/acpi/fan/*/state (fan states). * Post output of cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/* (cooler info). i have checked: fan is running, i can tell by the air jet on my hand You should keep an eye on fan states to see if they run at all before the overheat. They must not run all the time, but should turn on from time to time. I still suspect broken ACPI. Try upgrading to a new kernel (found in Unstable and Experimental), and see if that helps. Some popular laptops need at least 2.6.21 to work properly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGWG6xztOe9mov/y4RAtOmAKCAn9H7C8mt8Y057uV8uFcaqQFlqQCgm+xf 0IycFH+W/5NGWDxmFgcOdkw= =zm6p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bcm43xx issues an error message every minute
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sudev Barar rašė: bcm43xx: PHY connected bcm43xx: Microcode bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load failed bcm43xx: core_up for active 802.11 core failed (-2) [...] This means that your machine has broadcom wireless card and normally this will not work without ndiswrapper. No, ndiswrapper is not the only choice. bcm43xx driver is not really stand-alone. It needs firmware to work, which it reports cannot find. Grab bcm43xx-fwcutter package to get firmware. Also read documentation of bcm43xx-fwcutter. Some cards work only with specific (that usually means older) firmware, and you may need to install it manually with the tools it provides. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGWHB1ztOe9mov/y4RAkKOAKC0OwQFfC4XuL+ib2EU7TDcotZxNACfZ/QK IjJKk5w1HZ2qa131/OdVhik= =PQEf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk temp monitoring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pol wrote: * Laptop model? BIOS version? it is hp tc4200 tablet-- do not know about the bios, but i remember it was released in 2005 Do upgrade your BIOS to the latest version. These things have broken ACPI implementation that most likely is the reason for the overheat. But I suspect X is involved, since sometimes it gets 100% of the cpu time (according to 'top') for tens minutes, with no special reasons that i can see. Maybe a misconfiguration of xorg.conf? (Graphics card is ATI9700radeon) There may be a bug somewhere (especially if you are using fglrx driver), but that should not matter - a properly working system may run at 100% load forever, and will not overheat. I still suspect broken ACPI. Try upgrading to a new kernel (found in Unstable and Experimental), and see if that helps. Some popular laptops need at least 2.6.21 to work properly. i am running k/ubuntu, for which 2.6.21 is not yet available. If needed i can compiile it by myself but it woudl take me a lot of time. Ubuntu is NOT Debian. They replace large parts of Debian with software of their own, that is usually is more unstable, and has different set of bugs. For this reason we (Debian guys) can only give you general advise, but pinpointing specific bugs is not really possible. And I still strongly encourage you to upgrade to 2.6.21 (it is available in Debian Unstable), because it fixes a lot of problems with HP laptops. WARNING: Do NOT compile kernel on said laptop. Compiling is very CPU-intensive task, and may damage your hardware, if cooling does not properly work. Some HP laptops have an option in the BIOS to force the fans on (at slowest speed), when using AC power. But this may not be enough to cool the CPU under heavy load. Better than nothing, though. You may need _both_ the kernel and the latest BIOS to get going. You mentioned that you have XP installed - use it to update the BIOS via HP tools. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGWJwuztOe9mov/y4RAlGPAJ4kaNjCpcHN/Yw1zDOPBNMOnuX+jACeP7pv 9/tn8WlibDXxqTA5NEUxqx0= =kqb/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a Using Debian GNU/Linux sticker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: You mean '(dis)-solve'. Yes, I do. Thank you for clarification. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVuZpztOe9mov/y4RAoRIAKCqFrXJ58CLRb4g74pHGw63MlyJqQCfQuWG esQmCidbk3A1Md09GH0HXI4= =shh6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running qemu on an AMD64
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could I use Linux to copy the Windows program exe files etc to the Windows fake partition created by qemu and then go into Windows under qemu and then get it to install the software? For many pieces of software that scheme would work, but for copy protected discs it will fail. These so-called 'copy protected' discs deliberately put bad data on the disc and a special program is loaded at install time to read the disc (and also to ensure that the bad stuff is there). For example, a naive attempt to back up 'Flight Simulator' will result in bad checksums etc. There are actually more than one way to do this, depending on what you are trying to do: 1. To create a CD image and use it as a virtual CD-ROM in QEMU you need to run this command from a terminal: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso qemu-launcher version 1.8.0~pre0-1, which is available in Debian Experimental, can also do it, so can some GUI CD burning applications. To use the CD image, run qemu like this... qemu -hda hard-disk.img -cdrom image.iso ...or browse to it in qemu-launcher. A -cdrom can also point to a real CD-ROM device, like /dev/cdrom. In fact, if you do not use -cdrom option, qemu will not emulate any CD-ROMs. 2. qemu also has this little known option that allows using real directories as virtual drives. It works like this: qemu -hda hard-disk.img -hdb fat:/home/user/directory The guest OS will not be allowed to write to the directory by default. If you want this, use the following command: qemu -hda hard-disk.img -hdb fat:rw:/home/user/directory In any case, you should not modify anything in the directory while the emulator is running. This will confuse the guest OS, and may result in corrupted data being read. 3. There is also a way to mount the virtual hard disk, and access it directly, but it requires root access, and is not really nice. It works like this: sudo mount -o loop,offset=32256 /path/to/image.img /mnt/something Do not forget to umount it before starting the emulator. No disk image should be used both by guest and host OS at the same time, as it may and probably will) corrupt the image. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGV3UGztOe9mov/y4RAiprAJ0a5D04PACAdHCHMN+m8UuTxC3N9wCgicoB Th9pFoJz+EzE5hRWCrhl7zE= =JAqb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a Using Debian GNU/Linux sticker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I have removed several of those stickers successfully by slightly warming the area and just carefully tearing those off. It depends on the composition of the surface it's attached to, of course. If there should remain a stickyness, you could try a soft detergent or propane alcohol etc. New MS sticker are really cheap, and tend to wear out. They may also partly unstick, especially if they catch some moisture. So removing them preemptively is not that bad of an idea. :) While you will hardly be able to remove all the glue along with the sticker, it is usually not that hard to get rid of. If the glue used is a rubber glue, you can simply rub it off with your finger. If it is more aggressive, you can try rubbing it off with a piece of bandage (or similar cloth). Another trick is to apply a small amount of flour (yes, that stuff that bread is made of) to the glue, and then rub it off. Flour will mix with the glue forming a sort of gum, causing it to be less sticky and easier to remove. Of course, certain types of glue on certain surfaces tend to leave ugly sticky stains, but they can usually be removed with alcohol. But use it only as a last resort, and be very careful - alcohol can melt certain plastics. I would recommend against using any sort of non-alcohol cleaning fluid, because usually it will only spread the stains, and make them harder to remove. If you are concerned that removing the sticker will remove a certain amount value, in case you would like to sell your machine in the future, do not be. Nobody cares about the thing, as it does not mean anything. They even put those things on machines that cannot even install generic XP SP2. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVc8WztOe9mov/y4RAoNYAJ9DQ5emPOHSU8uZRXxb3niIitvRPQCgsxON hM7m2J1M7ZcU0PL1XhRxPz4= =9Jhs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running qemu on an AMD64 box to host Windows 98......
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Fothergill wrote: There were some references to running qemu on AMD64 but mostly indirect ones. Has anyone tried this? Yes, works just fine. At a dumb level, is qemu smart enough to fake the 32 bit environment on my 64 bit box running Debian AMD64 OS that MS Windows 98 would be happy to run on or would it only let you run a 64 bit version of MSWindows on a 64 bit machine like mine? AMD64 is an extension of i386 architecture, not a completely different architecture. To put it short i386 + new features = AMD64. So if the OS is a i386 32-bit one, it will simply not use the new features, but will work just fine. Also, QEMU emulates a 32-bit i386 system by default, even on AMD64. (In Debian I will just install the qemu package with synaptic). Yes. [...] Would these commands work OK in the AMD64 world? Yes. The same as on i386. Your comments on the merits of qemuctl and qemu-launcher would be appreciated. qemu-launcher will give you a user friendly GUI for configuring all the options, and do other useful things, and qemuctl is a plug-in for qemu-launcher that provides a GUI for controlling some run-time options. Grab both. If you will run qemu-launcher from the terminal, it will output the command line needed to run the QEMU with the chosen options, so it is also useful for learning. If you have any questions or suggestions regarding qemu-launcher, do not hesitate to contact me on-list or privately. I like email. :) Owen Heisler wrote: The kqemu-source package is in Debian. (in non-free for etch, otherwise in main) Just install the kqemu-source package and run m-a a-i kqemu Also on AMD64 system, you should check if your CPU supports hardware virtualization (run egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo and see if anything shows up). If so, you could try using kvm, which may be faster than kqemu. Regards, Linas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGUMg8ztOe9mov/y4RAhfkAKCL214deBrRJ2rqIOWMWWxOEY6DhACfXR+U rxnUqj+lFNJ8Lrycx7fnoTk= =SDZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning files to a CD with K3b
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Amy Templeton wrote: Eric A. Bonney wrote: Is there anyway to get K3b to allow you to write files to the CD from a network drive? In order to burn any files to a cd I first have to copy them to my local drive then copy them over. Any ideas or help? This is just a random shot in the dark that may or may not work, but have you tried using symlinks (ln -s /path/to/realfile.ogg /path/to/symlink.ogg) instead of copying the files? That may be enough to fool K3B into thinking they're local, or it might not. Anyway, that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but if worse comes to worst you could give it a shot. Disclaimer: I have never used K3B. I assume you are using KDE or GNOME. The desktop environment provides a level of abstraction, so that you do not need to know how files are accessed. Unfortunately this functionality is only available for applications that are aware of it. While K3B may be aware of it, the backend it uses for burning the CD's is not, and therefore cannot find the files. K3B should copy the files for you, but I guess this functionality is not implemented. Anyway, burning directly from the network is not safe, unless you are building the CD image before burning (in which case the files are copied anyway). Or you can copy the files manually, and burn on the fly, without needing to create the image. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGTuCBztOe9mov/y4RAmi1AJ9CQURjN5Qh6AcVOuzLSL2iejoGCgCglvN4 H2cK0kPXW6X3hOTGptI/hvM= =Gv/V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: No, there is another way, making all Debian lists subscriber only. And what exactly is this going to solve? How many of the offenders are not subscribed already? Besides, I would definitely not want all lists to be subscriber-only. I am subscribed to at least 10 Debian, and 10 non-Debian mailing lists, and receive about 300 emails every 24 hours. The least I would want to do, is increase the volume of messages by subscribing to mailing lists that I am not interested at all, and only post once in a year, or so. And what is the problem anyway? So things were getting little loose, but everybody should have gotten the point by now. A clearly defined policy for a mailing list is all good, but no need to go crazy about the issue. Regards, Linas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGT1iqztOe9mov/y4RAm0nAKCh1UGUA1ze8DgpbvAtnyc9vCrj1ACcCop5 w1T3+cpUjeQixv3DJ2+HA2c= =K1T2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dominique Dumont wrote: From my experience fglrx works with kernel 2.6.20 (amd64). I would recommend using 2.6.21 on new HP laptops. Not sure about this particular one, but on some models ACPI is totally broken with anything before 2.6.21-rc5. And by totally I mean may fry your hardware. Check your fan and temperature readings under load. But, it cannot use xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0. So you will have to hold xserver-xorg-core to 1.1.1-21 until (at least) the next release. It can use 1.3.0 just fine, it just refuses to do so because of a dumb version check performed by the driver. Fortunately, there is a fix. Just run one of the attached scripts (NOT BOTH) as root after installing the driver, and it should work. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Furthermore, xv is broken with 8.36.5. Just use software scaling or OpenGL output. Whatever works with your media player. Did I mention that fglrx drivers suck? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPwJ/ztOe9mov/y4RAtm+AJ0VOQU0pkAk+RgBQJ85ScWZiNoH+wCgpeec 6wQdyQGt8faOZSbt70fWQOc= =Ps6L -END PGP SIGNATURE- fglrx-hack-32-bit.sh Description: application/shellscript fglrx-hack-64-bit.sh Description: application/shellscript
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dominique Dumont wrote: If it's a dumb check, I guess I should try also to re-build the fglrx driver *once* xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0 is installed. To make it work _without_ the hack? No, it will not help. The check is performed by fglrx_drv.so, which is not built, but distributed in binary form, and it has the check hardcoded. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPw9lztOe9mov/y4RAkF1AJ4t24e1RPzsokG15SCveuYgGAKnwwCaA/tn WpqqZfb7qeEOPuAONmNF+No= =I7j3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: After a bit of investigation, I just want to point out that the hacks that you provided are illegal. They directly violate the ATI license agreement that one agrees to when installing the proprietary drivers in the first place. Another reason to boycott ATI video cards. I only provided the scripts, not the modified binaries. The scripts contain nothing owned by ATI. I am free to write whatever weird numbers I want, as a bunch of numbers cannot be copyrighted. I can also have any file named fglrx_drv.so, if I so desire. Whether it is legal for you to use them is debatable, but you are free to choose not to use them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPyg1ztOe9mov/y4RAnDvAJ4ruU2UnWmC0yqKCjjWI/QdBiRW3QCeMGVI qOaSIaUhqKH6PCh6n3dZzu0= =stwl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: to allow root logins or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: If something happens during boot and you want to boot single, /home isn't mounted and only root is allowed to log in. If there is no root user, how does this happen? This one is a nasty surprise. You will be given a root prompt _without_ being asked for password. This looks more like a bug, rather than a feature, to me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGKh1FztOe9mov/y4RAv6EAJ9LmTXs+YinO9MD2zo5iPFG0GtIogCgwA6S eW23ayMMhLwJ4NNmxzi1pPc= =RTRA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: to allow root logins or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: Keyboard-only access (where the hardware is in a secure cage) when the attacker does not know the root password leaves you in the same position as if he were telneting in. VERY FEW places do this anymore. And in any case I said touch the keyboard and have physical access to the machines internals I do realize that you can break any security in a certain amount of time, but that is really not the point. The point is that the installer option is misleading. It says that it will disable root logins, and does exactly the opposite - it enables passwordless root login. I also strongly disagree that this is not a security concern. It is like not locking your car because it is easy to break a window and open the door from inside. After all, there is nothing you can do to prevent someone from getting into your car if one can get near it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGKmtRztOe9mov/y4RAqT2AJ9Fp14ISieBovkNbfQFdz09PVW0eACfesce 0/XJF9HmR47MDtkzy3/qq58= =fv+z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: to allow root logins or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: Okay. then, do a test install with root disabled, Then try to login from the console as root. Won't work. Yes, with normal runlevels. What you are trying to intimate is that when booting into single user mode you just get right in. Well, yes. I recently did a clean install with root logins disabled. When I booted into single user mode it said something about root account being disabled and gave me a root prompt. Is this not the expected behavior? Okay, so if you *ARE* at the console and you are booting... what is to stop you from doing a modified boot where init = /bin/sh Hmmm. Didn't think about that huh? I did. I have grub password-protected. And the analogy about a car and its locks... If the person is really interested in your car and it is behind bars or in a cage/locked down facility... what really matters is the physical access being removed. But once in there he/she only has a limited amount of time before the authorities take measures. Maybe my analogy is not the best one. But this is a security concern. So is passwordless BIOS setup, and so is passwordless bootloader. From what I understand, we both agree on this. My point is that the installer option does not do what it says. It makes machine more secure once running, but makes it more vulnerable at boot time, and it is not obvious that this will happen. Come on, think with me on this, don't let those piss-green colored glasses color your thinking habits. Green does not really suit me. I realize that it is trivial to fix. I can password-protect grub, and remove single user mode from the menu. I can also set an insanely complex password for root user, and never use it. I never fully understood why Debian does not default to most secure, but this is not what I am talking about right now. I am merely pointing out what I consider to be a problem with the installer. Please do not take my words as a personal attack. That was never my intention. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGKpJAztOe9mov/y4RAv2MAJkBIu5pauWlHiu3T5gaZeTcOcqmZACfamAi DKeh4jy0KU0GOJQ4tFaXa/E= =EbcG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Insane numbers in SMART report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for being little off-topic, but I am really clueless on where else I could ask. I just installed smartmontools on this brand new laptop with SATA HDD, and the numbers I am seing are a bit scary. This is what I am talking about... 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate ... 90912 2 Throughput_Performance ... 22348118 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct ... 8589934592000 7 Seek_Error_Rate ... 1559 196 Reallocated_Event_Count ... 458686464 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered ... 281 203 Run_Out_Cancel ... 433781670603 ...full output attached. 195 and 203 are sometimes increasing, and sometimes decreasing, 5 and 196 seem to be stable. This just does not make any sense. Hard drive cannot be _that_ broken and still operational, can it? I ran the long and offline tests, and there does not seem to be any errors in the logs. What is going on? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGIWh0ztOe9mov/y4RAoHcAJ9epeQ506pJPrzO45z6eoNiGu6rjgCggTAW 92V9qSbokx5gEm9f4evJ4lY= =ad9S -END PGP SIGNATURE- smartctl version 5.37 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Fujitsu MHV series Device Model: FUJITSU MHV2080BH PL Serial Number:NW9ZT723SMVU Firmware Version: 892C User Capacity:80.026.361.856 bytes Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 7 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 4a Local Time is:Sun Apr 15 02:23:42 2007 EEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x02) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 471) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities:(0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time:( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time:( 55) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 046Pre-fail Always - 90912 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 030Pre-fail Offline - 22348118 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003 100 100 025Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 91 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 024Pre-fail Always - 8589934592000 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 047Pre-fail Always - 1559 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 019Pre-fail Offline - 4 9 Power_On_Seconds0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0h+02m+08s 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013 100 100 020Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 33 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 7 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 3181 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 100 100 000Old_age Always - 39 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/44) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 281 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032
Re: Recovering OOo rapid starter update-notifier on Gnome panel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andy wrote: Thanks Sven. This a.m. update-notifier reappeared as it should in the notification area. Now all the notification area is missing is the OOo quickstart app. I've dug around in various menus but can't see that particular option. You did not mention (or I missed it) if you run Sarge and Etch. If I remember correctly, in Sarge OOo quickstarter was a separate application, and it did not work all that well. In Etch, however, OOo has a quickstarter built in, and it works so much better. Enabling it is as simple as checking Memory - Enable systray quickstarter checkbox from withing OOo options. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF4Ds2ztOe9mov/y4RAtJaAJ9FKywAu0d1si8OSKTO88XutSvlVQCg01f0 ineZaNWiMhAR6E0rcld/tHE= =6wrI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running QEMU from a cron job
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nate Bargmann wrote: I am wanting to restart a QEMU virtual machine from a cron entry, let the VM do something, and then after a period of time freeze the VM until the next day. After reading the docs and browsing the Web for a few days, I'm not so sure this is possible. Well, I guess it is possible, but it may require some (or maybe a lot of) programming skills. You could write an application that would control QEMU via its monitor interface. It would then be possible to suspend, pause, and do all sort of cool things with the VM. A much simpler solution would be to have QEMU started by cron, and set up the guest OS to shut down after doing something. Or you could run QEMU in snapshot mode and simply kill it, when not needed. Or... the possibilities are endless. What exactly do you want to achieve? And do not forget that QEMU is mostly a GUI application, so you will probably need to run xorg. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF3w+TztOe9mov/y4RAiOeAJwP+XAbIrMQNRhfGOcH0/Oodef4TACdG9ho gUK+AnLR7t14mvvqp7R7ODY= =g4e/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running QEMU from a cron job
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nate Bargmann wrote: And do not forget that QEMU is mostly a GUI application, so you will probably need to run xorg. Thanks for pointing that out. That may be another area to work around as well. As Joshua Kugler already stated, you can run QEMU headless; and there is more than one way to do it. Apart from one already mentioned, you could try starting QEMU in non-graphics mode, as if it had no VGA card. Same way one would run a headless server. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF30oVztOe9mov/y4RApPKAJoCAqsfRBM3uQCnV4PYeyXM73/EVQCfcu63 1cfxrN91eG2btM9d6EOJTw8= =Neot -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI and USB question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Willis wrote: I've completed my install of Debian v3.1r4 sarge, from the downloaded DVD images. I reboot, and I'm at the familiar CLI login prompt. First of all, I should note that Sarge is a bit dated. The next release codenamed Etch is going to be released real soon, and you can already use a beta version. So if you do not mind using something not 100% stable, and have not yet done much with your install, I suggest you download Etch [0] and do a clean reinstall. It contains numerous improvements and should get you going real fast. [0] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 1st question is, how do I start the GUI (KDE, Gnome, whatever) that I assume is bundled with the distro? My memories of how things worked in Sarge are a bit hazy, but... If you just did a base install then CLI is all you get. To get GNOME, run this as root: apt-get install aptitude (installs a neat CLI package manager) aptitude install gnome gdm xserver-xfree86 2nd question, completely unrelated, is about when I plug in my USB memory stick. The OS spots it and seems to mount it, but I can't find the mount point. Where do I cd to in order to find my files that are on the stick? When you plug in the USB memory stick, it should appear as SCSI disc in /dev (such as /dev/sda1 or similar). You can then mount it wherever you feel like. mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whateverdir You will not need to be bothered about all of this once you get your desktop environment running. Oh, and one last one; I don't suppose anyone has the faintest idea how to make the OS talk to a Hawking Technologies HWU8DD USB WiFi dish? If not, I'll just get a cheapie WRT54GL and use that as a WiFi client, but I guess it's worth asking first... Cannot help you on this one, sorry. I still strongly suggest you install Etch. You will _not_ need to reinstall it once the final is released - Debian has the best package management/upgrade system out there. You also do not need all the CDs/DVDs, Debian can install missing packages directly from the net. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFlmiyztOe9mov/y4RAjWkAJ9JgI1r8eoxxwjFtUoTESnZDnq3TwCgr81M kwmPrk2kCA83m8npYFF4ulA= =L6RC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does Etch support Intel Woodcrest Xeon processors?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Mark wrote: Debian has 1,200 Developers and millions of users: we are more than enough of a techincal resource. Just get a copy of a ubuntu or knoppix live cd and let them test it. It is Debian that has 1200 developers, not Ubuntu or Knoppix. Next best thing, but not quite the same. If you are interested in Debian live CD, please look at [0]. [0] http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFlXupztOe9mov/y4RAjhoAJ91zhTXzVMkJGzE1a/D3cOKWZMN+QCcC5y3 1dzBGAUU4P8z0tn1mmpJalk= =tCBm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing all packages from a given repository
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Halton wrote: I'm trying to remove all packages installed from the E17 repo at edevelop.org. Is there a way (e.g. within aptitude) to list packages according to the repo/domain from which they were downloaded, and then remove them? You cannot list them by repository, but there is this trick: Delete any references to edevelop.org from /etc/apt/sources.list, run update in aptitude, and packages installed from said repository should now be listed under Obsolete or Locally Created Packages. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFlCo9ztOe9mov/y4RAqwBAJ4jf8r9xuRjfIkF53bYQBiE2QqjagCgy4z/ KOi9jSZpKT7g7h62k96AjaQ= =qJ8k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux arch with usb?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joey Hess wrote: I'd use any. That's consistent with eg, usbutils. That is because arch name does not tell you anything about hardware it can include. For example old i386 machines without USB, new ones that have USB support disabled in BIOS, etc. etc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFjGBrztOe9mov/y4RAgaUAKDOqyKfMIBgt4bk13HsQPr4U5LSnwCeN1oY 9IxuLOP7FZz9GdSs/5Viv6c= =lkRT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get the ip address without using root?
How to get the address of the local machine without using root? ifconfig cannot be issued by a common user. TIA! It can, '/sbin/ifconfig'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where can i get cedega package ?
OK, gimme one :-) There’s a howto right here[0], but I didn’t get it to work. Wine (which is a father and a mother of Cedega) is usually just as good at running games. The only thing that is not yet there is support for some CD copy protection systems, so you may need to patch the games. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where can i get cedega package ?
Jabka Atu wrote: the reason that i go to cedega is Hereos 4 . i play this game for hours and sometime for days. but ... if you lose a battle you get error no 5 or 1 and wine crashes. Guess you just have to play very well. :) Just kidding. I just checked the Wine AppDB [1] and it seems to be working for many people. Maybe there is some specific option you need to set to make it work properly. Have you tried searching trough Wine mailing list and forums for advice? also i tried starting sims 2 with wine and i got the same errors. DirectX 9.0c support is not yet finished in Wine, so Sims 2 will not run. It, however, does not seem to work in Cedega [2] either. I am not trying to discourage you from trying Cedega, but if you are not experienced enough to compile it yourself, your best bet would be to buy it. There are no packages, and there never will be, as Transgaming threatened to remove the free version entirely if somebody packages it. [1] http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1638 [2] http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/The_Sims_2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how can i run flv videos ? (metacafe)
Jabka Atu wrote: im trying to run flv video ( debian unstable). i have installed the essential codecs from mplayer and im able to run wmv9 videos. 'mplayer' itself is able to play these. i have non-free flash package. You do not need this to play the files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which locale
Wei Hu wrote: Which locale should I use? I am using en_US.utf8 as the default locale. but when I do $ls to display non-English file name or directory. I get something like ((invalid Unicode). I'd like to use English as the default locale, but still can display non-English file name without these '???invalid Unicode's. This means that the filenames are not in UTF8. UTF8 can be used to write text in most (all?) languages, but it does not mean that you will be able to view filenames written in non-UTF8 encoding. Your best bet would be to set the locale that works with the filenames, rename the files using only ASCII characters, set the UTF8 locale back, and rename the files to what you want. Alternatively, you can simply rename ? files, like you would rename any other file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to rip a data DVD
Silvio Jorge Auler Junior wrote: I'm searching for a way to rip data DVD's, i've tried dd but during the process it stop returning an error, which i think it's caused due some kind of block or encrypted data in the media. Try 'readcd' (in 'cdrecord' package) or 'ddrescue'. Can you copy the files from the DVD when you mount it? DISCLAIMER This message is exclusively destined to the person(s) to which it is addressed, and it may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If this message is not addressed to you, you are notified from now on to do not disclose, copy, distribute, examine or, in any other way, use the information contained in this message, considering that it is illegal. In case you received this message due to an error, we beg you to return this E-Mail, immediately promoting the elimination of its content from your database, records or control system. Now that is a weird thing to send to a public mailing list... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla or firefox package-what is the difference?
J F wrote: Mozilla or firefox package-what is the difference? I guess I'm a little confused about which one is better/newer or the one to use? * 'mozilla' and 'mozilla-browser' - original Mozilla, it is now considered obsolete and is replaced by SeaMonkey (not yet in Debian). * 'mozilla-firefox' - an older version of Firefox. * 'firefox' - a new version of Firefox. Note that Mozilla and Firefox are very different. Firefox is newer, but it does not mean that everybody likes it. Read this thread [1]. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/07/msg02035.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fluxbox + Firefox slow
Nick Wright wrote: I use fluxbox as my window manager. Its pretty sweet for most stuff -- light and fast. However when scrolling around in firefox the system is brought to its knees (CPU load spikes to 80-90%). This also happens quite a bit when altering the focus between firefox and other windows. Disabling smooth scrolling may help. Although on my system it still is slow as hell. Does anyone else find the same thing? Can you recommend any alternatives to firefox that perform better in fluxbox (and obviously is as featureful as possible) In my experience, pretty much anything will perform better. -- Epiphany (epiphany-browser) -- This one is rather simplistic, but epiphany-extensions can give it quite a boost. It is GNOME based, but GNOME applications perform very well in Fluxbox. -- Galeon (galeon) -- Another browser for GNOME. It has a comfortable interface that lets you change most options quickly. It does not seem to support extensions of any kind, but it already has quite a lot of features. -- Kazehakase (kazehakase) -- An interesting GTK+ based browser. It is somewhat similar to Galeon, but does things differently. The drawback is that it will pull Mozilla in. -- Mozilla (mozilla-browser) -- The mother of all free software browsers. Has a lot of features, extensions, an ugly interface. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fluxbox + Firefox slow
Kelly Clowers wrote: -- Kazehakase (kazehakase) -- An interesting GTK+ based browser. It is somewhat similar to Galeon, but does things differently. The drawback is that it will pull Mozilla in. Never heard of this one before. By pull Mozilla in do you mean it uses Gecko, the Moz rendering engine? Because Epiphany and Galeon use it too. No, unlike Epiphany and Galeon it embeds Mozilla browser directly in its own window. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying `Wine'
Ron Johnson wrote: People who install Debian also using commercial s/w? Oh, the horror! Quick, call RMS He would say that commercial is not the same as non-free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
Brent Clark wrote: My question is, how would they go about that? What tools or tests were needed to test whether an account has a strong or weak password. You should consult John the Ripper. He is likely to be found in john package, although I do not know if this particular tool was used. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unpacking replacement... hangs in apt-get.
Adam Soltan wrote: I have an annoying problem with apt-get. When I run for instance apt-get upgrade it shifts into gear and starts downloading packages but it then hangs while unpacking some of them. Are you sure that it really hangs? Unpacking some packages can take a while. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Force kill a process?
Hans du Plooy wrote: mercury:/home/www/web8/web# ps ax | grep ftp 3123 ?Ds 0:00 proftpd: (accepting connections) 18183 ?D 0:00 /usr/sbin/proftpd 19079 pts/0D 0:00 /usr/sbin/proftpd How do I kill this? kill -9 3123 18183 19079 maybe? I'm not exactly in a position to restart the server. What do you mean? You are not the owner of the process? In that case you will not be able to kill it in the first place. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wiki for Java Developers Using Debian
Redefined Horizons wrote: Other developers that are working with Debian are welcome to contribute to the wiki page. Hopefully it will mature into a helpful knowledge base for Java development on Debian. Why not integrate it into official Debian wiki? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Horrible performance: hdparm
Osamu Aoki wrote: What does people feel to make hdparm with DMA enabled to be default for etch? Is is not the kernel that needs to be tuned to enable/disable this by default? It also seems more reliable than simply brute-forcing this on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: How could I make that happening to Fluxbox? do you have the menu-xdg package installed? menu-xdg is not needed. Fluxbox (the one in Debian at least) uses standard Debian Menu system, and has been doing that for as long as I can remember. It sounds that you have run update-menus as a normal user some time in the past. In that case your menu structure is probably saved in your home directory and is out of reach for global update-menus. Try removing ~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu file and re-running update-menus as root. Do not run update-menus as a normal user, unless you really want to have your menu not to update automatically. It is a feature, not a bug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: farewell mp3 :(
Ron Johnson wrote: $ mp3check -a file.mp3 file.mp3: anomaly: bitrate 192kbit/s ^^^ That doesn't look good. The question is, why bitrate of 192 kb/s is considered anomaly? roberto, could you please explain what do you mean by higher rate? I am not a native English speaker, so I may be misunderstanding something. You provided very little information, so please answer the following questions in detail: 1. What system do you run? Stable, Testing, Unstable, up-to-date or not? 2. What kernel are you using? Post output of uname -a command. 3. What desktop environment are you using? GNOME, KDE, other? 4. When did it start? After upgrade maybe? 5. Do other sound formats (OGG, WAV, etc.) and applications that produce sound (games for example) work fine? 6. What players (with versions) exactly are you using? 7. What sound system are you using? ALSA, OSS, arts, esd? Look in players' configuration for settings that have similar options. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu
Is it possible to keep my own menu, while link to the system menu via a Debian sub-menu? No, I do not think this is possible. It is, however, possible to add your own entries by adding custom menufiles to ~/.menu/ directory. The syntax is described here [1]. Although you may want to read the entire document [2]. [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ch3.html [2] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu
Wayne Topa wrote: Do not run update-menus as a normal user, unless you really want to have your menu not to update automatically. It is a feature, not a bug. One of the benefits of the menu system is that users can add items to 'their' X menus to ~/.menu. As they are not read, when root runs update-menus, how to _you_ get them to load? I do not. That is why I totally forgot that not all locations are read on global runs. Sorry about misguiding information. I personally run update-menus whenever I add a menu not supplied by the author/maintainer and have not had any major problems with it. I never said there is anything wrong with it. It will simply not update automatically anymore, at least in most environments. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is semantic?
Haines Brown wrote: When was Semantic introduced, and what is its purpose? Is it associated with ext3 as well as ReiserFS? With the newer kernels? This semantic? - aptitude show semantic [...] Description: Parser Infrastructure for Emacsen The Semantic Bovinator's goal is to provide an intermediate API for authors of language agnostic tools who want to deal with languages in a generic way. It also provides a simple way for Mode Authors, who are experts in their language, to provide a parser for those tool authors, without knowing anything about those tools. [...] Semantic is now a part of CEDET (Collection of Emacs Development Environment Tools). - I am not an Emacs user, so I do not know if this is really it. You could use aptitude tool to find out if some package you use depends on semantic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: embedded firefox
Ian Bull wrote: Does anyone know if the firefox available with debian (sid) is compiled with dynamic libraries (instead of static ones). This is needed to use firefox as an embedded browser. Firefox in Debian uses shared libraries. You, however, can recompile it any way you want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOo check and radio buttons
Marc Shapiro wrote: I have not done the upgrade, yet, so I have a question. I do not run either KDE, or Gnome. Is this going to be a problem for me? Do I need to install packages for a DE that I don't even run? Or should I wait until they fix this before upgrading? You can install openoffice.org-gtk and set OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome environment variable as a work-around. Hopefully you already run a couple of GTK applications, so there should not be much extra data to install. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Kernel Image Package Question
Kenneth Bond wrote: I was under the impression that running apt-get update, apt-get upgrade would upgrade my installed kernel packages - for example from kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686=== kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686? Or do I need to perform a manual kernel-image package installation when new kernel-image packages are released. You need to install a kernel-image-2.6-686 meta package, that always depends on the latest kernel, if you want kernel upgrades to happen automatically. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Kernel Image Package Question
Ralph Katz wrote: Somehow the Debian Developers don't see this as a problem (having to manually install the meta package). I reported this in March [1] when it appeared to me to be a problem many users would have since the meta package, kernel-image-2.6-686, was /not/ installed in the default sarge installation. I hope Etch will install the meta package by default. Why should it? Many people prefer to manually choose their kernels, as this is not something you can upgrade at any given time. It is not a problem either way - installing or removing a meta package is not that hard, is it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is the Etch NVIDIA driver wrong?
S Scharf wrote: I had always installed the NVIDIA driver by downloading from NVIDIA. Thinking it would be easier to maintain to use the .deb package I found the Testing package requires the 2.6.16 kernel, but the current testing kernel is 2.6.15? Am I missing something? There does not seem to be NVIDIA driver package in Testing. Both NVIDIA drivers and appropriate kernels are found in Unstable. Maybe you are using a mixed system or your package list is not up-to-date? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.
David Baron wrote: OK. Now the question. Which packages are needed for a GEforce 440 card? Probably the normal (the non-legacy) driver packages. ( compile my own kernels so the 2.6 kernel meta-stuff is probably not appropriate since I always have full source. Still leaves a lot of different packages.) Please read http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. Especially the Build manually, with a custom kernel section. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is the Etch NVIDIA driver wrong?
I see. The legacy drivers actually are in Testing. These are meant for older (legacy) cards, and may not work with new ones. This is a sort of transitional driver, as a new version (already released, but not yet in Debian) does not work with anything but legacy cards by design. The pre-built modules of normal driver are also in Testing, as they are built from different source. They are, however, useless without user space components, such as nvidia-glx. You may want to try getting the driver and the kernel from Unstable. Although you should check for release critical bugs first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Xen for Stable/Unstable distro a good idea?
David Baron wrote: Qemu is a fairly simple virtualizer. Since a virtual machine sport differing hardware (emulated) than the real one, running off a real filesystem is kind of dangerous. Feeding qemu the real thing is rejected. It will play off diskettes and live CDs. QEMU can run of real file systems just fine - just point it to a device file instead of disk image. Of course, you should not expect it to run an OS that was not installed trough QEMU itself. By the way, QEMU is an emulator, not virtualizer. The OS inside QEMU is almost totally isolated from your real hardware. A vritualizer that runs the actual hardware, playing traffic cop between the real session and the virtual sessions?? Real native speed and effective multimedia? Xen runs at native performance, QEMU does not. QEMU can run any OS, Xen cannot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is the Etch NVIDIA driver wrong?
S Scharf wrote: The pre-built modules of normal driver are also in Testing, as they are built from different source. They are, however, useless without user space components, such as nvidia-glx. Which gets me back to my origional question. The NVIDIA driver in Testing requires a different kernel version than the one in testing !? Is the system broken? If no driver == broken, then yes, it is. And no, I do not know how or why packages with unsatisfied dependencies got into Testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.
James Westby wrote: Then installed the nvidia-glx. Did the package install cleanly or were there any errors? Did not work. The libglx.so, etc were not installed anywhere I (or the xorg.conf) could find them. I will check again when the locate db is updated. Reinstalled the nvidia run meanwhile. [...] Yes, but I guess they are there somewhere, it would be rare for a package to be uploaded containing no files. It is possible that on uninstall NVIDIA installer removed something it should not. Try reinstalling xserver-xorg-core and maybe GL (mesa) and GLUT libs after removing the driver. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Xen for Stable/Unstable distro a good idea?
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I've followed this thread a bit and maybe you all can help me. I've got a winxp partition that I have to boot into only occaisionally to get some archived data from an old quickbooks file. Can I use one of these solutions to do that? QEMU can run WinXP, although the performance will be quite poor, unless you install a proprietary accelerator module (it cannot be distributed with Debian, so you will have to do it manually). As I have already mentioned, QEMU can run of real file systems, but an operating system must be able to deal with hardware changes. WinXP is not really good at that, so it may or may not work. A thing to remember is that you should run it in snapshot mode (changes to a file system are not written onto a disk), in case something goes wrong. The best thing to do would be to install the OS onto a disk image (or to a real partition, if you really want to) trough QEMU. You can install from a real CD, or from a CD image. It is really as easy as it sounds. QEMU offers a lot of options for sharing data between host and guest OS. For example you can set up SMB network, use a directory as a drive etc. Some GUI front-ends also exist, if you are not familiar with QEMU command line options. None of them are in Debian yet, but here is the list: KDE: http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kqemu/kqemu-0.3Alpha.tgz?download GTK+: https://gna.org/projects/qemulaunch http://svn.gna.org/daily/qemulaunch-snapshot.tar.gz or am I better waiting for wine to support quickbooks (not yet afaik). Are you sure? I checked Wine AppDB and it does contain it. Does not mean that it does run, but at least it is a known application. You could also try running it from real WinXP partition, if it does not work stand-alone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.
Wulfy wrote: Are there debs for the *legacy* driver? Only for 7174. I need the 7167 driver for my TNT2 card. I've been using the .run file from nVidia and am having problems with the latest updated 2.6.8(-3-686) (sarge) kernel. It won't seem to compile for it and wants to remove the driver so from the 2.6.8-2-686 modules. Two days ago NVIDIA released an updated 7182 legacy driver, but it is not in Debian yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: coreldraw for linux
Han wrote: Is a coreldraw package for debian or is there anything close enough to it in Linux, please dont say Gimp because the two are very different. Try inkscape, skencil, sodipodi, synfig. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.
David Baron wrote: First, it now incorrectly removes the driver from the 2.6.16 modules and then nicely installs the driver onto the 2.6.17 modules. If I want to keep more than one kernel around, the installer.run does not cooperate :-) First of all, I highly recommend using the Debian packages and not the installer you got from NVIDIA. It can be confusing at first (a couple of methods available depending on how you deal with kernels), but it will save a lot of trouble during upgrades, and is multiple kernel friendly. If you really want to use the installer, there is a way to use multiple kernels. If I remember correctly, it has an option for that in advanced options (--advanced-options). They surely would want to change this! No way to contact them? There is also a forum [1] where you can contact NVIDIA developers, but, as I said, it is already possible. [1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.
David Baron wrote: Are they better or equivalent? Probably updated with Xorg changes, etc. which is better. However, the manufacturer must also know what they are doing? Files inside are exactly the same, except maybe cases where certain modifications are needed to make them work in Debian. The driver needs to overwrite a couple of files that belong to xorg, so if you use the installer, the files will be overwritten without Debian package management system knowing that. This will lead to them being overwritten again by xorg on next upgrade, and you will have to reinstall NVIDIA drivers. The packages make the package management system remember they were overwritten and preserves them on upgrades. They will also be updated once NVIDIA releases a patch, which you would have to apply manually otherwise. You will get the same either way. Proprietary drivers are still proprietary drivers no matter how you install them. Didn't know there were any options. Next new kernel, I'll try it (if I do not go over to the Debian driver). If you decide to go with debs, do not forget to uninstall the driver before installing packages. One thing to consider is that if you do not run Debian Unstable, you will not get the latest drivers. On the other hand, all NVIDIA drivers are buggy in one way or another, so a new driver is not necessarily better. I would assume that the default behavior would be to leave the pre-existing kernel's module in place. This is what most folks trying a newer kernel would want. You are free to bug NVIDIA as much as you want, but do not expect things to change anytime soon. As long as the driver is proprietary, there is nothing we can do to make things work the way they should. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gimp gap
Rocky Ou wrote: I installed gimp on my Debian Stable system and aptituted gap plugin as well. This is my first time to use Gimp. I really do not know how to access gap interface. I tried gimp website and googled for the solution but maybe it is too easy no help was found. It adds a Video section to a menu in the image window. You have to create a new image to see it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'
Surachai Locharoen wrote: I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr. It means the default language - the one the application is actually written in. In practice this is usually English, but one could write an application in French (for example), and then translate it to English. In that case setting 'LANG=C' would indicate that an application should display messages in French. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'
Ron Johnson wrote: I thought C meant plain *old* ASCII encoding, like what was used on the PDP computers that C was written on. Well, yes, it is US English ASCII. But I have seen it being abused. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windows in xen on intel core-duo?
qemu ? yes, but not raw, you need a disc-image Both QEMU and VMware emulate an entire computer which has its own hardware. This means that once you boot Windows from within QEMU (it can boot from real disks), it will need to reconfigure itself to run on emulated hardware. And, as we all know, Windows is not really good at that. Your best bet would be to create a disk image and install Windows there. Sure, it will not be lightning fast, but QEMU can be quite fast if you use the accelerator module (you will have to download and compile it yourself). If you are not familiar with QEMU command line options, there at least three GUI front-ends that you might want to give a try (none of them are in Debian): for KDE (never tried it): http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kqemu/kqemu-0.3Alpha.tgz?download for Java (needs Sun Java): http://exprofesso.com/jqemu/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jqemu/jqemu-1.1.0.zip?download for GTK (yes, that is my name on it): https://gna.org/projects/qemulaunch http://svn.gna.org/daily/qemulaunch-snapshot.tar.gz vmware ? probably.. It may run a little faster than QEMU, but I simply cannot recommend it, because it is, you know, evil... xen ? no, there were license-issues with M$-Windows xen Form Xen FAQ: 1.4. Does Xen support Microsoft Windows? The paravirtualized approach we use to get such high performance has not been usable directly for Windows to date. However Xen 3.0 added Intel VT-x support to enable the running of unmodified guest operating systems, including Windows XP 2003 Server, using hardware virtualization technology. We are working on implementing support for the equivalent AMD Pacifica technology. So it seems it is somewhat possible if you have the right hardware. Not that I know how to do it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deleting rivafb
When I compile the nvidia kernel modules, it tells me that they are incompatible with the rivafb functionality, and I have to disable this in the kernel (which is a stock Debian kernel) before I can use them. If it is built as a module (and I guess it is), that is really easy. How do I go about this? Presumably some entry in some configuration file? Yes, see /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Just add rivafb module to the list, and reboot. It should not be used anymore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing new kernel
Joris Huizer wrote: I don't know what needs to change when using GRUB. Usually nothing. GRUB is automatically updated via script by default. Sam, you should also install udev package along with 2.6 kernel. Also choose a kernel optimized for your system - for example kernel-image-k7 (or linux-image-k7, whichever name is used on sarge) if your processor is AMD K7. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling a 2.6.15 kernel
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: I am compiling a2.6.15 kernel to run with sarge. I am a bit confused witht he options in Cryptographic options - Cryptographic API , are those algorithms really necessary to run a desktop machine? and Library routines, do I need any CRC* function?. There isn't any suggestion in the on-line help... Unless some driver automatically selects any of them, you most likely do not need them. I would say they are safe to disable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smart package manager
There is talk about the smart package manager. It claims it will handle package managing better than APT. Is this true or propaganda? If it is true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART? Could it be a potential etch +1 goal? Just wondering. Are you referring to Aptitude ? It's available either in a curses display (I think it's curses) or from the command line. He is probably referring to smartpm package: The Smart Package Manager project has the ambitious objective of creating smart and portable algorithms for solving adequately the problem of managing software upgrading and installation. This tool works in all major distributions (APT, APT-RPM, YUM, URPMI, etc). This project is in beta testing. Please, understand that bugs are expected to be found at that stage, and there are features that still must be implemented in the forthcoming future. It is an interesting project, but I doubt that APT will go away anytime soon. You do not just go and replace essential parts of the operating system with some half tested beta software. Maybe one day, but probably not in Etch+1. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck on ext3, lost files
Gary Parker wrote: Some of the jpg files are corrupted. Interestingly gimp displays a preview of the images in the open dialog box, but won't open them. Any ides on how to salvage corrupt jpg images? Thumbnail can be saved inside JPEG file as Exif data, so GIMP is probably displaying it, not the actual image. But my knowledge on this is rather limited, so I make no claims. I have posted a sample image and screenshots of the gimp screens at: I looked at the file and it seems to be damaged pretty badly. It contains large chunks of data that contain nothing but zeros and chunks that seem to be leftovers of other files. I am not aware of any way to recover such files, but I am not saying there is none. People that deal with digital photography should know better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hints on module handling.
Dan Serban wrote: Now that 2.6 is running rampant and has been for some good time... I'm curious how the current correct way to set module parameters is in a udev environment. [...] The list goes on and on, and I'm confused. Someone, please point me to some sane debian documentation :). Not sure what exactly are you asking for, but to set module options simply create a file in /etc/modprobe.d (any name) and write your options there. For example, I have /etc/modprobe.d/local which contains options snd-via82xx dxs_support=5. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hints on module handling.
Dan Serban wrote: Sorry for the confusing post, I was asking for a specific method on how to supply options for modules. So thanks, though I was more talking about the confusion I was facing since I used to just load modules in /etc/modules and add lines such as bttv tuner=2 etc. Adding lines to /etc/modules would also work, but there are certain drawbacks: * Modules are forcibly loaded at boot time; * Options are not preserved if you reload the module. As for modutils and modules.conf, they are not used on 2.6 systems. You can safely remove modutils package, but you should not remove files or directories. They are still sometimes needed for backwards compatibility. Anyway you hit the nail right on the hammer, thanks =D You are welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware free server beta
David Baron wrote: elevator=cfq These things are probably case-sensitive. :-$ What is this? This sets a default I/O scheduler (a driver that organizes reads and writes to a disk in a certain way) to CFQ. It should improve interactivity, but can sometimes degrade performance. I did not read the thread, so do not know how is this related. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck on ext3, lost files
Gary Parker wrote: I've searched every file in lost+found with a few different tools: gqview, nautilus, lde, find with file. Although I found some of my files in various directories in lost+found, there are a couple of directories whose files are nowhere to be found there. [...] Is it possible in an ext3 file system to find files outside of lost+found? It depends. When a file is deleted (or lost), the data remains on disk. The difference is that the kernel does no longer know that the data is there, and treats it as free space, so it can be overwritten at any given time. Chances of that happening increase as you do something with the disk. Even mounting it in read-write mode may be enough to lose this data, as there are processes invisible to user that update the file system from time to time. You did mount it read-only as in... mount -o ro /dev/disk /mnt/location ...did not you? I am guessing that it is not possible since lde shows these directories as empty then I am out of luck, e.g., [...] I can retrieve the .jedrc file but there is nothing to be found of the pictures directory in lost+found. The testdisk package, I have already mentioned contains a tool called PhotoRec [1] that might just do the trick. There is also foremost package that may be useful. [1] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck on ext3, lost files
Gary Parker wrote: Lost+found contains over 300 entries numbered #1504387 through #4635638. About 50 of these are directories. One of these directories contains most of my user's home directory, though many of the subdirectories that I am interested in appear empty. In particular I am looking for jpeg images. [...] I've read, Your only hope is to grep for parts of your files that have been deleted and hope for the best. Is this still true? Something like this happened to me once (but I do not remember why). Lost+found contained various entries that did not make any sense at first, but they actually appeared to be files I was looking for, only with weird names, and _scattered_ all over the place. What I mean, is that if files were in a certain directory, they can no longer be in that one directory. You will probably need to check all of them to find what you are looking for. A valuable tool in this case is file. It can identify loads of different file formats, and can be very effective in conjunction with some shell scripting. There is also tool called testdisk. I have never used it, but it does seem to have some very useful features. It is highly unlikely that you will be able to recover a lot of useful data by examining hard drive physically, but if that is important for you, here are some tips: * Only operate the disk in read-only mode. * First of all try to locate you data in _files_ in lost+found. Most of it should be should still be there. It is just a matter of copying the files and renaming them properly. * After you have salvaged your files, then you may want to do physical analysis of the disk using testdisk or similar tools, if there are still thing missing. Of course, this is based on the assumption that you do have another disk or a separate bootable partition available. Otherwise you will have to move files around in the same partition and this will overwrite parts of files that might have survived somewhere on disk. In my case, I was able to locate all my important data in lost+found. Chances are that you will also. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA + sid dist-upgrade may 30 2006
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Then I replaced libasound2 1.0.11-6 with -3 because -4 is nowhere to be found. 1.0.11-7 should also be safe. I'll report when it fails again at reboot eventually. Let us hope not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA problems after Sid upgrade
Benjamí Villoslada wrote: Any workaround? Thanks :) Downgrade libasound2 package to 1.0.11-4. Something went terribly wrong in 1.0.11-5. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA problems after Sid upgrade
Benjamí Villoslada wrote: How I can downgrade? I'm new in Debian and is my first downgrade :P I don't locate the 1.0.11-4 version of libsound2. If you have a not very up-to-date mirror (hey, that turns out to be a feature) listed in /etc/apt/sources.list, 1.0.11-4 should still show up in aptitude. You then could select 1.0.11-4 in Versions section of a package description. If you do not use aptitude (I highly recommend it), you can do it manually: 1. Download libasound2_1.0.11-4_ARCH_NAME-HERE.deb from [1]; 2. Remove the package by running... dpkg -r --force-all libasound2 ...as root; 3. Install previously downloaded deb by running... dpkg -i DEB_NAME_NAME ...as root. [1] http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/ P.S. There are other ways to do the trick, but these are my favorite. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I'm looking for a specific firewall...
Dirk wrote: 1) It must be written in C 2) It must be able to block connections from a specific IP iptables? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rar archiver
Henrique G. Abreu wrote: if you mean, the command line yes, there is no X interface. That is not true. file-roller and xarchiver should do just that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which is the most stable desktop?
KDE, icewm are reasonably stable. Have not tried others so cannot comment on them. In general, if you are using stable releases, all the destop environments or window managers should be stable enough. Large desktop environments (KDE, GNOME etc.) are always more likely to fail than small ones (Fluxbox, FVWM etc.), but that is simply because they contain more applications that _can_ contain bugs. The possibility is rather theoretical, however. You should really stop worrying about how stable they are, and just choose your favorite one. Personally I always recommend GNOME to people that do not know what to choose. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why is KlamAV not included in Debian?
Clive Menzies wrote: Did you mean: ~$ dpkg -l | grep clamav No, KlamAV is a GUI front-end to clamav. Both KlamAV and Dazuko are being worked on, so I guess this is just a matter of time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gimp and printing
Although I have already set up my cups system and have a default printer, it has nothing to do with gimp (but please correct me if I am wrong). I can not use the printer configured with cups in gimp. I don't get the connection between the system printer (as you mentioned) and gimp. In gimp I must add a printer in the print plugin's dialog and specify the printer's vendor and model. There are many HP printers, but not the one have (710c). The question is still open. I assume you have correctly set up your printer and verified it really works. If so... 1. in GIMP go to File - Print - Setup Printer, 2. in Printer Make select HP, 3. in Printer Model select something that is close enough to yours, HP DeskJet 690 series would be the one I would try first, but feel free to experiment with other options, 4. select Standard Command and select your previously configured printer in Printer Queue, do not select (Default Printer), You should be done. Try to print something. If it does not work, make sure that your have really setup CUPS correctly. Check if hp-toolbox is not complaining about anything. Also take a look at output of hp-info. hp-setup and hp-makeuri may also prove useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gimp and printing
I don't have those binaries, which package they're in? I'm using etch. They are in hplip package. You should also install hplip-ppds (or hpijs-ppds, whichever is available), hpijs and printconf to have a full suite at hand. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gimp and printing
I have hplip-ppds but not the hplip package installed. But, really, is the missing of this package the reason that I have only the Default Printer under the Printer Queue in gimp's print plugin? There may be other reasons, but you should install hplip anyway, as it contains CUPS backend for HP printers, a driver as you may call it. It also contains various nice to have tools for ink level monitoring, color calibration, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab re-writing
Ron Johnson wrote: The standard answer is udev and a custom rule. But I also wonder what is rewriting /etc/fstab. Earlier versions of HAL could be configured to do that, but this feature was disabled in Unstable some time ago. If I remember correctly, to disable it, you have to make HAL drop privileges by setting an option in /etc/default/hal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade
alsaconf works great. finds the device, says to have fun. No sound. Did you unmute devices in alsamixer? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: search and replace code in php or html files
H.S. wrote: The problem is to change a particular link in all the pages. I assume the webpages were made using a template. If I were to search and replace a particular string with a the new desired one, I would be done. Check out rpl package. As an aside, given the webpage, is there anyway I can guess what application was used to make them? Dreamweaver, frontpage, ?? See if it contains a generator meta tag. Other than that, sites made with Frontpage will contain all sorts of errors, MS specific code etc. This is not a scientific definition, but if it looks like crap, it most likely was generated using some proprietary WYSIWYG editor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting Disk Images
David Baron wrote: I can install downloads by downloading using the images IE but I have these files elsewhere so wish to use directly or copy to the image file. mount -o loop,offset=32256 image.raw /mnt/something The important part is offset=32256 because that is where the first partition usually starts. If the image contains more partitions, you will have to use fdisk -lu on that image to find out the correct values for them. The formula to calculate them is... offset = sector_byte_size * start_sector Do not forget to umount the image before starting the VM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'out of memory' errors
tom arnall wrote: What about streams then? please tell me how that would work? i'm not familiar with the mechanism. You could open a file as a stream (or a buffer, it is the same thing), read it in chunks of reasonable length (maximum length you expect the longest regex match would span), and advance by one char, for example. Something like this... |--- $number of chars ---|--- -|--- $number of chars ---|-- --|--- $number of chars ---|- ---|--- $number of chars ---| There are many ways to implement this and similar algorithms. Google for perl, buffers, streams, and regexes to locate examples. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'out of memory' errors
tom arnall wrote: Understood, but I am doing a regex on text units which span more than one line. Trying to process this text w' line-by-line io would be possible but, as far as I can see, very awkward. What about streams then? Looking at 'top' and the 'MEM%' column, it seems to me that the system is finally swapping, but only after allowing the perl applicationg to hog all available memory, which then of course has everyone else swapping and therefore grinding to a virtual halt. You application probably hogs the memory very fast. Too fast for swapout to complete before you run out of it. What I want is for system to be swapping mostly for just the perl application. By doing what you are currently doing, you will probably run out of memory anyway, but here is a little trick you could try. Not that it is very helpful... # sysctl -w vm.swappiness=100 $ cat /directory/with/a/lot/of/big/files/* /dev/null Now you should have most of your idle applications swapped out. # sysctl -w vm.swappiness=60 I tried setting it to 100, but i get an 'out of memory' error anyway. 100 can trigger swapout event earlier, but it still takes time. The 'as' parameter, as set above, causes an 'out of memory' error when the perl appl' runs. If I make the 'as' parameter to be very big (e.g., 2G), the system allows the perl appl' to run but also to hog memory. The normal address space is around 3 GB on 32 bit archs, so 2 GB is not that big. Address space is quite different from physical memory available. Each application expects to have as much memory, and it is the same regardless of actual amount of physical memory. To my way of thinking, there should be a way to put a limit on the physical memory an appl' is allowed to use, and to cause swap space to be used when that limit is reached, i.e., a way to put a limit on the physical memory which the individual application is allowed to use. Given the fact that this is not the way Linux manages memory, chances that such thing exists are rather low. I am not a kernel hacker, so I may be wrong, but this is not the way to solve your problem either way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'out of memory' errors
tom arnall wrote: i am trying to us a perl application that handles large files (.5GB) in scalar variables. when i try to 'slurp' one of these files into a variable (e.g., '$_ = `cat filename`) i get an out of memory error. You should consider alternative solutions, like processing files line by line for example. It highly depends on what you are trying to achieve, but loading half a gig into memory is not something you should do without having a very good reason for doing so. is there not some way to get linux to use swap space when physical memory is exceeded? It does that by default, assuming you do have swap partitions or files available. Note that this can be slow, and I assume this is what you described as a freeze. There are many tunable Linux virtual memory parameters you can set via sysctl interface. You can get a list of them with sysctl -a | grep vm. The most useful one is vm.swappiness. You can set it to a number from 0 to 100. 0 means try not to use swap at all and 100 - swap as much as possible with all other values in between. You can set it (and other sysctl options) like this: # sysctl -w vm.swappiness=60 To preserve settings on reboots, edit /etc/sysctl.conf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Make HAL leave my CD-ROM alone
in terminal type hal --molest-cdrom=false (without quotes) Ha ha. Any real ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Make HAL leave my CD-ROM alone
I am having hard time trying to make HAL stop polling IDE CD-ROM drive.
The storage.media_check_enabled key is set to false, but that does
not seem to make any difference.
I have also tried various combinations of...
storage.automount_enabled_hint
storage.media_check_enabled
storage.no_partitions_hint
...but to no avail.
Am I missing something? Or is this a bug?
Debian unstable/experimental
linux 2.6.16.7 (vanilla)
hal0.5.7-1
udev 0.090-1
dbus 0.61-5
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_CD_W58E'
info.addons = {'hald-addon-storage'} (string list)
block.storage_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_CD_W58E'
(string)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_CD_W58E' (string)
storage.cdrom.write_speed = 1411 (0x583) (int)
storage.cdrom.read_speed = 5645 (0x160d) (int)
storage.cdrom.support_media_changed = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvdr = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvd = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.bdre = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.bdr = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.bd = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusr = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdram = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdrw = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdr = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvd = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.cdrw = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.cdr = true (bool)
storage.requires_eject = true (bool)
storage.hotpluggable = false (bool)
info.capabilities = {'storage', 'block', 'storage.cdrom'} (string list)
info.category = 'storage' (string)
info.product = 'CD-W58E' (string)
storage.removable = true (bool)
storage.physical_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1106_571_ide_1_0'
(string)
storage.firmware_version = '1.0A' (string)
storage.vendor = '' (string)
storage.model = 'CD-W58E' (string)
storage.drive_type = 'cdrom' (string)
storage.automount_enabled_hint = true (bool)
storage.media_check_enabled = false (bool)
storage.no_partitions_hint = true (bool)
storage.bus = 'ide' (string)
block.is_volume = false (bool)
block.minor = 0 (0x0) (int)
block.major = 22 (0x16) (int)
block.device = '/dev/hdc' (string)
linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3) (int)
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1106_571_ide_1_0' (string)
linux.sysfs_path_device = '/sys/block/hdc' (string)
linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/block/hdc' (string)
Re: time incremented one hour with every boot.
Joaquin wrote: UTC=no Set this to yes and set your hardware clock (in BIOS setup) to correct UTC time. You might also be interested in ntpdate package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good anti-virus software to use?
Yes it's a workstation, to be some kind of app server, but not mail server. But why a workstation doesn't need anti-virus stuff? There are no widespread viruses for GNU/Linux systems. Doesn't the Internet connection unsafe? No internet connection is 100% safe, but it is not antivirus that you need. It is a job for a firewall. Actually, I should asy, I want to find anti-spyware/adware/virus stuff, just to make the workstation safe when connect to the Internet. GNU/Linux systems are much more secure than Windows by design. For example, you will never get infected simply by browsing the web. It is not that it is impossible to get infected, but for this to happen you need to be really stupid or really unlucky. Do not run applications of unknown origin and you will be more than safe. If, however, you need something to play with, look at these packages: avscan - virus scanner rkhunter- trojan (rootkit) detector chkrootkit - trojan (rootkit) detector firestarter - firewall There is a lot more security related software, but common sense is still the best security measure. Note that none of them will make your system more secure simply by installing it. Enjoy your Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about strange message in /var/log/syslog : Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 064b0008 ...
KLEIN Stéphane wrote: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 064b0008 ... This is called a kernel oops. It means that something in your kernel crashed and it might be dangerous to continue running. It may indicate either a bug in the kernel, or hardware failure, but I am not experienced enough to tell exactly. Either way, this is rather bad. You should mail this to debian-kernel mailing list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer for linux?
Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote: I prefer HP LaserJet, but it's my opinion :D. Those are more compatibles (IMHO, again). I second this. Not necessarily a LaserJet, but any HP printer. They provide libre software for most (all?) of their printers (listed at linuxprinting) and it is plain awesome. Ink level monitoring, calibrating... everything works. And as a bonus, it is almost just a matter of aptitude install printconf hpijs to get it going. Add hplip, if you have one of their all-in-ones. No, HP did not pay me to write this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
