Re: SIP services and softphones: what do you guys use?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM, John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: Interesting. I can see KDE applications if they are based upon Qt4 or were compiled using the commercial Qt3. I wasn't aware that Gnome apps could run without Cygwin and thought that most simply silently bundled it but may very well be wrong. Are you sure it isn't running Cygwin under the covers? There are many GTK apps that can run natively on Windows, without the need of any Cygwin installation. To name a few: Geany, Linphone, Midori. Liviu Thanks for the correction - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1300090667.14555.1.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikdo2sfnjbfvybgtbjrtbwvry8uivjy5cxhz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: SIP services and softphones: what do you guys use?
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to get rid of proprietary Skype and two of my most important contacts are willing to give SIP a try. We all installed Ekiga and signed up for ~@ekiga.net SIP addresses, but the sound quality was very choppy and unusable. They are both on Windows. Is there an better softphone? Is there a better sip address service than ekiga.net? Is there a better softphone for Windows than Ekiga? Ekiga has a nasty reputation of generally being non functional. I couldn't make it work on my system, either. I've sampled a handful of SIP softphones and stopped my attention to two: Linphone [1] and Jitsi [2], both cross-platform. Linphone is a mature application with robust sound, and good video (if you follow the FAQ). On the downside the UI design is a bit rusty and would need some love and attention, but nothing hopelessly bad. Jitsi is different. It is still in active, pre-release development, although many report using it in production mode and that it is stable (personally I'm still having some hitches with the audio, but you should try on your system). The upside of Jitsi is a clean and intuitive interface (a bit similar to Skype on Linux), and long list of fancy features, including support for many protocols (Pidgin-style), audio, video, conferencing, encryption, desktop sharing, call recording, etc. Both apps are open-source with commercial support available. You should try both and see which better fits your needs. If you're looking for more alternatives, try this [3] [4]. Regards Liviu [1] http://alternativeto.net/software/linphone/ [2] http://alternativeto.net/software/sip-communicator/ [3] http://alternativeto.net/software/skype/ [4] http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/#skypereplacement -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimb+2yzdtnhedb0ybtadnl06-ht9ekfz316e...@mail.gmail.com
which file is currently being written to disk?
Dear all Is there some utility (console or otherwise) that could indicate me NOT the output/input read/write and miscellanea, but simply which files are currently being written to the disk. Sometimes my browser (Opera) downloads some temporary files, and usually have a difficult time locating them. Any ideas? Regards Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTim0EzWEZra6A2G2VwfycigHOpJ=qrqy_uara...@mail.gmail.com
Re: which file is currently being written to disk?
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: $ lsof | grep opera However, these files get written so quickly that I'd bet it won't be much use except when downloading *big* file. I'm interested in big files, indeed. I'll try this soon. Cheers Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTim6KgfAm4UQzTUrPrSpZhjQOdD5Xr7=wjzs6...@mail.gmail.com
wicd refuses to start
Dear all After some recent updates, I assume, wicd strangely refuses to start. li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 1033, in module main(sys.argv) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 91, in wrapper return func(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 1005, in main tray_icon = TrayIcon(animate, displaytray=display_app) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 139, in __init__ self.icon_info = self.TrayConnectionInfo(self, self.tr, animate) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 198, in __init__ self.update_tray_icon() File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 91, in wrapper return func(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 349, in update_tray_icon self.set_wireless_state(info) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 91, in wrapper return func(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 289, in set_wireless_state 'network-wireless') File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 233, in _show_notification self._last_bubble.show() glib.GError: Unable to connect to server However, it starts just fine with li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk --no-tray Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. /usr/share/wicd/gtk/gui.py:152: GtkWarning: gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size: assertion `icon_size != GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(gladefile) or from root debian-liv:/home/liviu# wicd-client Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. displaytray True Done loading. I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. Any ideas on what's going wrong? Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815075229.54f58...@debian-liv
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:32:52 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: What Desktop Environment are you using? Xfce, with its xfce4-notifyd. I just went through the bug report and disabling notification in wicd seems to do the trick. As a work-around, this is fine with me. I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. I guess you mean updated ;) No, I actually meant very outdated. I have ~1300 upstream upgrades available, enough to consider moving to Xubuntu. :) I think I'm losing interest in a rolling distro (having previously been on Gentoo): in many cases I'm simply building from source the packages that I need to be recent, and that list is relatively small. Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815173658.4d940...@debian-liv
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:21:04 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Earlier you mentioned an update... I was referring to a selective update using aptitude. available, enough to consider moving to Xubuntu. :) I think I'm losing interest in a rolling distro (having previously been on Gentoo): in many cases I'm simply building from source the packages that I need to be recent, and that list is relatively small. squeeze is frozen now, until the release only bugfixes will come in and after that only security updates. Thanks for the info. Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815203525.2f38e...@debian-liv
Re: Chromium Xperience
Hello On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:15 AM, KS list...@fastmail.fm wrote: I feel it is more responsive and is faster than Iceweasel This could If you have little against non-open-source programmes, you might also want to try Opera 10.50. It has not been released yet [1], but here I am playing with beta releases and they look very promising. UI responsiveness and rendering speed are at least as good as Chromium's, although Opera boasts that it's the fastest in the world while some benchmark sites seem to confirm this. Start-up speed is much improved, albeit bit slower than Chromium and perhaps on par with Iceweasel. It passes acid3, while Chromium and Iceweasel fail (at least the versions that I have installed here in Squeeze). Lastly, the interface is cleanly revamped and converges to that of Chromium, although maintaining the Opera-ish specifics. Not of interest to KDE users, on Xfce (and Gnome, I suspect) the interface is *very* GTK feel-alike, not least via the GTK filechooser and print dialogues. To echo previous posters, another promising open-source project is Midori. Regards Liviu [1] http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilyk-85v6l-4kk6mavegue0uaxi5kn7ilw8n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: backup apt tree?
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:18 AM, T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:52:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: so anything catastrophic as to trash var/ will best be solved by a complete reinstall. 2nd to that. package downgrading would never be quickly and painlessly. Do a complete system restore, that'd be more quickly and painlessly than downgrading. I am sorry but I don't quite follow. What could go wrong when trying to downgrade a couple of packages (one of which misbehaves following an upgrade)? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/y2w68b1e2611004210039vaff732abs80391fe41de62...@mail.gmail.com
backup apt tree?
Dear all What files contain the information on the current (now) apt tree? I would like to perform backups of these files so that I could restore the tree if some package upgrade messed up my Debian testing. Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2z68b1e2611004201149o7450ce70k995ff71346679...@mail.gmail.com
Re: backup apt tree?
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote: Restoring those files would not actually cause a downgrade to occur. They would just cause the state of the package manager to not accurately reflect the state of the system. Yes, this is what I would like to achieve. I would like the package manager to switch back to the previous state. Then, I would open aptitude and it will automatically propose the necessary downgrades (I think). Thus I could quickly and painlessly restore the system (in case it was broken by the upgrade) and then hunt down the offending package when time permits. What would be the concerned files? -- Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by apt tree. If you need an old package, snapshot.debian.org should have it. You can then you pinning to avoid upgrading it -- either to a specific version or at all. Looks interesting, I'll look into that. Thanks Liviu -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/r2z68b1e2611004201238g903f97c0jda85d92804551...@mail.gmail.com
Re: backup apt tree?
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:27 PM, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: If you are asking what I think you are asking, as in which files would you need to restore your system in the event that you lose your apt and dpkg databases, then I do the following: /var/backups /var/cache/apt (less /var/cache/apt/archives) /var/lib/apt /var/lib/dpkg This will give you enough that apt-get update, etc works. Nice, thanks! I've just configured a weekly backup schedule in BackInTime. Now the rules have probably changed if you use aptitude as I believe it creates/uses a different database. Could anyone advise on what additional files should be backed up to suit aptitude? Thank you Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/m2s68b1e2611004201341u5d3dd886ud52cb0c539a93...@mail.gmail.com
something dpkg-related hogs my resources
Dear all Something dpkg-related hogs my system's resources. It is disturbing since it starts by itself, takes many minutes (+/- 1h) and ends by itself. I could also not identify one obvious process responsible for it. WHen this happens, CPU indicator shows about 50% usage of the two cores, while I can spot many `sh' processes (with one of them taking a good chunk of CPU), an `md5sum' process starting and ending sporadically and a `dpkg-query' one exhibiting similar behaviour. Could someone suggest how to track down what triggers this and turn it off? Thank you Liviu li...@debian-liv:~$ uname -a Linux debian-liv 2.6.30-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 7 05:21:45 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: something dpkg-related hogs my resources
On 1/31/10, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: From your description I conclude that this is probably a cronjob (or several cronjobs) that checks the installed files/packages. You can use the 'pstree' command from the psmisc package to find out which job is the resource hog when it starts next time. I will try next time. BTW, do you run testing/unstable and have the debsums package installed? I am running testing, but debsums is not installed. Thanks Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
dealing with grub2?
Dear all Could you help to either completely get rid of grub2 or properly configuring it (to recognise the other two OSs, Windows and Ubuntu)? For the first part, I've uninstalled grub-pc and reinstalled grub-legacy, I've run update grub and checked /boo/grub/menu.lst (and it contains Windows and Ubuntu entries). However, on reboot I only see the Debian entries. I also installed os-prober, but it doesn't seem to affect behaviour of update grub. Before uninstalling grub-pc, I updated menu.lst and ran update grub, to no avail. What else should I try? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dealing with grub2?
On 1/22/10, tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Hope it helps. It does, thanks. I went back to grub-pc, and with os-prober installed it seemed to have recognised both Win and Ubuntu. At least grub.cfg seems to have the relevant entries. Fingers crossed on reboot. Best Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
no sound in gstreamer-based apps
Dear all I get no sound when playing media files with Totem, Parole or Whaawmp. It seems to have happened after some gstreamer upgrade on Debian testing. The mixer levels are also OK since while playing an .mp3 with Parole (and no sound) I started the same file with Potamus and mpg123 (with sound). I checked gstreamer-properties (in gnome-media) and set the default output to ALSA, and the Test sound worked fine. However, strangely the gstreamer-properties dialogue lacks my main card in the list, HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer). It has only Default, STAC92xx Digital and HDA ATI HDMI. Where should I look to see if there is something wrong with Gstreamer on my system? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: alternate web browser etc...
On 1/1/10, Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Why not 'Opera', even if it is not free (I doubt if it is very expensive) ? I may miss the knowledge of something better that Opera... Opera is 'free' as in 'free to use'. So, no need to register, pay, or view adds; you can also request features, report bugs, etc.; you just don't have direct access to the source. Otherwise, it is fairly robust nowadays on Linux (possibly no crashes for weeks or so) and by default contains a steady number of features for every-day browsing. Personally I'm using the qt4 build [1]. [1] http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/1010/final/en/ Another possibility is Midori (already mentioned). It is still in its early ages, but in heavy development and gets more robust with every release. It is open-source, extension-able, has an active community and is affiliated with Xfce (although is itself desktop-independent). Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: rolling-back, reverting system upgrades?
Hello On 12/21/09, Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: As I understnad it, generally speaking you don't. You *can* if you use dpkg directly and still have the .deb files from the previous version of a package lying around (/var/cache/apt/archives/). I did think of manual dpkg installation of old archives and pinning packages as solutions. However, would there be specific dpkg/aptitude/Synaptic files/folders that store the current tree information and that could be backed-up before updating that information and restored in need? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
rolling-back, reverting system upgrades?
Dear all How would I roll back system upgrades? I am using Debian testing and after I hit Reload package info in Synaptic, it will download the package versions that are current in the testing tree, and will completely forget the old tree (which after the update will be dubbed as now). If I perform an upgrade of a package, say a critical one, fglrx (video card) or broadcom (wifi), and the new version comes with an incompatibility that breaks my system, I currently see no way to revert to the old (now) tree, the old versions where the packages worked just fine. In other words, if you update the package info and upgrade some packages that come with breakages, you're doomed to start hunting for a fix (in my case, this morning, without X and without internet). In the old times with Gentoo, breakages occurred more often than needed, but it was quite easy to revert an upgrade: each tree---stable and testing---usually contained several, similar versions of the package (much closer than in Lenny and Squeeze). That meant that whenever something went wrong after a package upgrade, I simply reverted to a previous minor version, got on with my work and waited for a new version to pop up. To get back to my original question, is there an easy way in Debian, with aptitude or Synaptic, to revert to the old tree after the package info was reloaded (or aptitude was updated)? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: installing experimental supertux: libopenal0a missing
On 11/30/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all Today I tried installing supertux, both the experimental version [1] and the supertux .deb [2]. Strangely, both depend on a mysterious and missing libopenal0a package. On Ubuntu Jaunty, however, this development supertux worked pretty fine. Any ideas on how to solve the dependency issues? Installing Jaunty binaries went just fine, and now supertux seems to run fine here. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
usb keyboard support?
Dear all How smooth should Debian testing react to a USB keyboard? Should I expect it to work out of the box? Are there recommended models? (I managed to find only out-dated compatibility lists.) Please let me know your thoughts. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
OT: access ftp when it is blocked
(wildly off-topic) Dear all I have a nasty Internet connection that blocks mostly everything but HTTP. Thus I cannot access FTP content such as this [1]. Would anyone have an idea on how to access FTP content solely by using HTTP? Thank you Liviu [1] ftp://ftpext.usgs.gov/pub/cr/co/fort.collins/Geissler/LearnR/R10-topic04.wmv -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: setting a preferred debian repository?
On 12/3/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: AFAICT from 'man sources.list' in your case it should be enough to list the custom repository first in your sources.list. Doesn't seem to make a difference here. The other method works for aptitude, but not for Synaptic. Thank you Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: setting a preferred debian repository?
Hello On 12/1/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote: Yes, read (man 5 apt_preferences) and review the output of (apt-cache policy) or (apt-cache policy $package). For a full practical example, see http://iguanasuicide.net/node/4. I looked at the pages and right now it *seems* to be doing what I need. In my case, I set li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release n=cran2deb Pin-Priority: 1001 which gives li...@debian-liv:~$ apt-cache policy | grep cran 1001 http://debian.cran.r-project.org testing/ Packages release o=root,a=testing,n=cran2deb,l=root,c= origin debian.cran.r-project.org and now aptitude proposes to upgrade, for example, r-cran-urca 1.2-3-1cran1 - 1.2-3-1cran2 instead of r-cran-urca 1.2-3-1cran1 - 1.2-3-2 , which is what I want. This doesn't seem to affect Synaptic, though. It still proposes to upgrade r-cran-urca 1.2-3-1cran1 - 1.2-3-2 , something that I don't want. How can I instruct Synaptic to honour the priorities defined in /etc/apt/preferences? Thank you Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
setting a preferred debian repository?
Dear all Is it possible to configure the order of preference of Debian repositories? I get a package with the same version, for the same architecture, for the same target (testing), but from two different repositories. And I always prefer the version packaged in the custom repository over the one in the official Debian repository. Can I somehow tell aptitude/synaptic to always install/upgrade from the custom repository, even if it thinks that the official Debian repository is more up-to-date? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
installing experimental supertux: libopenal0a missing
Dear all Today I tried installing supertux, both the experimental version [1] and the supertux .deb [2]. Strangely, both depend on a mysterious and missing libopenal0a package. On Ubuntu Jaunty, however, this development supertux worked pretty fine. Any ideas on how to solve the dependency issues? Liviu [1] http://packages.debian.org/experimental/supertux [2] http://supertux.lethargik.org/wiki/Download/Unstable#Release_0.3.1 -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
grahical md5 checksum?
Dear all Does Debian have any graphical utility that can compute md5 checksums? I am looking for something non-KDE-based similar to wxChecksums [1]. Thank you Liviu [1] http://wxchecksums.sourceforge.net/mainpage_en.html -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
wicd fails to detect wifi networks
Dear all More wicd blues. Some time ago I reported that wicd was failing to start the GUI [1]. After getting more and more dishearten with NetworkManager, I gave wicd another try. This time the wicd GUI starts all right, but it identifies a wired connection to which it tries to connect (even though no wire is plugged to the laptop). Most annoyingly, it does not find any wireless networks (as if the wifi radio was killed, although it is well up). All this is on Debian testing with wicd and dependencies up-to-date. Any ideas on how to fix the issue? Thank you Liviu [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg95.html -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: wicd fails to detect wifi networks
On 10/27/09, Tim Tebbit tteb...@gmail.com wrote: Double check that you have identified what your wireless interface is in wicd's Preferences. By default I believe it is left blank. Also in there, you may have always show wired interface selected. Of course! In trying to make wicd work, I removed it together with the config files. However, by default wired was `eth1' and wireless `' (blank). Putting `eth1' into wireless solved my problem. Thank you all for the suggestions Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
On 10/16/09, Nick Lidakis nlida...@verizon.net wrote: Since I have been having so much fun using and learing mutt lately, and since I've been trying to wean myself off of using GUI programs (GTK and KDE(k3b))) that need a boatload of dependencies, I thought I would give the debain package cdw a try. You would probably get more luck by starting a new thread. Cdw's homepage states that the current version is 0.3.93, with the last release being this August. Debian's package is 0.3.3. Seems a bit outdated and the feature set seems limited. The Copy Audio CD doesn't really copy a cd, it just Copy audio tracks from audio CD to separate files on hard disc. I wasn't even able to get this to work. Anybody have any other recommendations for a a good ncurses cd writer tool? Ideally I would like to be able to do an instant copy (from hda to hdb) od an audio cd, burn debian and ubuntu iso's, and write data files to cd and dvd+ and -r. Not ncurses, but tcl/tk. Tkdvd should be light enough, although it seems missing from Debian's repos. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
On 10/10/09, J.Hwan.Kim j.hwan.ki...@gmail.com wrote: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ? Seemingly not yet mentioned: Xfburn. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
mplayer: jumping around
Dear all Recently I encountered this nasty, aggravating behaviour in mplayer: moving the computer (say, creating a little vibration by knocking on the table, or simply moving a muscle when on my laps) will cause mplayer to scroll forwards or backwards (any of the available 10 or 60 sec, or 5 min). At times it continues like this until the end/beginning of the file. Many times it seems to appear randomly, perhaps on earth quakes or when a heavy truck passes in the neighbourhood. I suspect that the behaviour is caused by the accelerometer that should be present on the notebook, the one that should catch out-of-norm accelerations, shut down the hard drive and prevent data loss. I was once curious on how this works on Linux, and installed couple of packages similar to hdapsd and hdaps-utils. Since I removed these, without any change in mplayer behaviour. As a final note, mplayer looks like the only misbehaving application. Oh, and all this happens on an HP Pavilion dv3. Any ideas on how to work around this issue? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mplayer: jumping around
On 10/11/09, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Liviu Andronic wrote: Recently I encountered this nasty, aggravating behaviour in mplayer: moving the computer (say, creating a little vibration by knocking on the table, or simply moving a muscle when on my laps) will cause mplayer to scroll forwards or backwards (any of the available 10 or 60 sec, or 5 min). At times it continues like this until the end/beginning of the file. Many times it seems to appear randomly, perhaps on earth quakes or when a heavy truck passes in the neighbourhood. I suspect that the behaviour is caused by the accelerometer that should be present on the notebook, the one that should catch out-of-norm accelerations, shut down the hard drive and prevent data loss. I was once curious on how this works on Linux, and installed couple of packages similar to hdapsd and hdaps-utils. Since I removed these, without any change in mplayer behaviour. As a final note, mplayer looks like the only misbehaving application. Oh, and all this happens on an HP Pavilion dv3. Any ideas on how to work around this issue? Thank you This is a long shot, but mplayer sometimes does that to me in a relatively minor way because the mousewheel moves slightly without me touching it (my mouse is kinda old). Is it possible that the scroll pad on your laptop is being activated by shocks or vibrations? Is there some way you could temporarily disable the touchpad and test it? Anyway, like I say, this is a totally wild guess, but the problem did sound somewhat familiar to me. Another thing to try is to run mplayer from a terminal and see if the output gives you any hints as to what's happening in the background. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mplayer: jumping around
On 10/11/09, JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Okay, seriously, I'm done here. If you're too fucking retarded to listen, or too fucking ignorant to follow people's very simple and polite requests, then fuck off, no one wants you here. You cannot possibly be unaware that no one wants your goddamned double posts, and in this case you can't even muster the necessary intelligence to write anything. You are a useless annoying fuck who should be taken out and shot in the fucking head. Joe, this is all premature and gratuitous. I much appreciated your trying to help, and wanted to try it before writing back, but, you know, at times people mess send and save now buttons---especially when they're less than one centimetre apart---, while esc does not stop the message from being sent. I don't think you're very well (at least right now) Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: see ya
On 10/11/09, deb...@waysoft.com deb...@waysoft.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:59:52 -0400 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: I've been on here a year, and I've gotten *decent* help from exactly infantile name-calling flame fests I find in most Linux-related Regarding the latter, I don't think you want to check the mplayer: jumping around thread. Joe doesn't seem familiar with decency. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: see ya
On 10/11/09, David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com wrote: I thought he was perfectly decent. He inquired about maybe your touchpad being an issue, but never did I see a negative tone or anything condescending. The initial intervention was polite, indeed. But not so the subsequent vulgar, off-list message to which I replied on-list [1]. Liviu [1] http://www.nabble.com/mplayer%3A-jumping-around-tp25845458p25847657.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: testing system updates: how often?
On 10/7/09, thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: It also makes the (careful) reading of apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges output easier. Nice packages, worth being suggested for aptitude or synaptic. Otherwise, thank you all for the input. I will probably settle for weekly system updates. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
testing system updates: how often?
Dear all How often do you update your testing? I noticed that leaving your system as is for couple of weeks and about 200 packages would be available for updates. I would like to know what would be the optimal updating frequency that would minimise breakages. In the Gentoo world, it was often suggested not to leave your system out-of-date for too long. Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: XFce4 vs GNOME Desktop
Hello On 9/26/09, S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: But when I start up or switch to XFce4, I'm left without a desktop, just the application dock on a coloured background, which I can't seem to change. First, which version of Xfce are you using? If it's recent (4.6), look for Desktop settings and find the Icons tab. If it's 4.4 (older), it had a strange name, similar to desktop behaviour. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/21/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: If you don't find this specific information for your card and chip I will urge you to post to alsa people to include it there. Done. [1] [1] http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2009-September/021407.html Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/20/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote:
Also you can play with .asounrd
# from http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix
pcm.headset { # playback only on frontpanel headset
type route
slave.pcm dmixer
slave.channels 8
ttable.0.0 1 # headphones front L
ttable.1.1 1 # headphones front R
}
This trick seems not to have worked. I put the config lines in
/home/liviu/.asounrd, with no change in behaviour after a reboot.
Liviu
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Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/20/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: You might need to update your alsa utils, libs or whatever or something, at least I did though I think I saw you are using 1.2.20. Yes, my testing is up-to-date. When all else fails, I will also try 1.0.21, the unstable version. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/20/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: When starting multimedia application it picks up the default audio device which is not your headset output. Shouldn't the switch occur automatically when external speakers or headphones are plugged in? This is the behaviour that I always encountered on Windows and on Linux. you can play with aplay -D ... man aplay and findout yourself which device id the headphone one. I get the following output: li...@debian-liv:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 li...@debian-liv:~$ aplay -L default:CARD=SB HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog Default Audio Device front:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog Front speakers surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=SB,DEV=0 HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) hdmi:CARD=HDMI HDA ATI HDMI, ATI HDMI HDMI Audio Output I am now testing each PCM device on a .wav file, and the first three (including front) do not behave differently in the presence of plugged-in headphones. For the fourth and fifth, I get this error: shaplay -D surround41 autumn_(from_the_four_seasons).wav (5809) Playing WAVE 'autumn_(from_the_four_seasons).wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo aplay: set_params:957: Broken configuration for this PCM: no configurations available shaplay -D surround41 autumn_(from_the_four_seasons).wav (5809) returned '1' The next two, surround51 and surround71, behave in the same way as first three: when headphones are plugged in, the speaker is not muted and the audio stream is not switched to the headphones. Probably as expected, iec958 and null produce no perceivable sound output. I also did this debugging on alsa 1.0.21 (unstable), with no change in behaviour. A wild guess: could JACK of PulseAudio help in such cases? Would it be worth understanding how they work and configure them? I also found this post [1] that suggests to rebuild alsa with ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=hda-intel Is there way to find out whether the one shipped on Debian is built in this way? Liviu [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-u...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg20526.html
Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/21/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: # from http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix did you read this? the info there could help you. I don't know exactly how to help you. here everything is working fine Not entirely, but will take a closer look. In any case, thank you for all your suggestions thus far; I had no idea how to tackle the debugging on this one. Soon I will probably either file a bug against Debian's alsa or switch to alsa-user. It seems to me more and more that this is some buggy alsa behaviour. Best Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Xfce GNU/Icecat and Gnome-programs
On 9/21/09, ura cherka...@smila.com wrote: I have this problem: using Xfce, browser GNU/Icecat, Evolution, and other Gnome-programs can not open links to Internet. How do you access internet? Cable, wifi? What is your connection manager (NetworkManager, Wicd)? Do you need to pass through a proxy server? Please give more details. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No low-disk-space notification in Gnome?
On 9/21/09, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: I'm running dangerously low on disk space in my /home partition, but Gnome has not once alerted me disk space was low. Is this a known Gnome I don't know about Gnome, but Xfce has a xfce4-fsguard-plugin for the panel, which alerts you for any defined mount point and danger level. Dunno if you can put in on the Gnome panel, but you can use it in Xfce. Otherwise, there might be some similar applet for gnome. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/21/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Liviu Andronic wrote: front:CARD=SB,DEV=0 I think this is the one you should try. May be we can exchange snapshots of what alsamixer looks like. It seems you have similar audio controller to my one. I think I found it. This specific problem of no audio in external headphones/speakers was widely discussed on Ubuntu, and someone somewhere for some reason (similar but different from mine, I believe) suggested adding the position_fix=1 option. I did so, and after reboot everything seems to work as expected. I would probably need couple more reboots to confirm this, but so far it looks fine. (Though haven't checked the microphone, yet.) Again, thank you for your help. Best Liviu li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf ## ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio ## module options should go here #ex. options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=dell-m6,ref,auto #options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1 options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 position_fix=1 options snd-usb-audio index=1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?
On 9/18/09, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: I think that the current ubuntu skype version from skype website depends on this, but turns out that you may also need to move /usr/lib32/libpulse* out of the way or it may crash (did for me) Indeed. Thank you for the suggestion. Now skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.47-1_amd64 does not crash, and sound/record find. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: alsa does not (re-)store audio levels
On 9/20/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Do 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' work for root? Do you have the package alsa-utils installed? This started to work OK after I supplied correct load-up options to solve a distinct issue (see [1]). Liviu [1] http://www.pubbs.net/debian/200909/110516/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
alsa does not (re-)store audio levels
Dear all Even more sound trouble. On my system ALSA seems unable to (re-)store the audio levels for Master. All other levels and switches are stored and restored as expected, but on start-up Master is always muted and at 0%. I tried to work around and set Xfce to run aumix -v60 in terminal at each start-up, but this seems to have no effect. Strange is that manually running this same command in a terminal will have the desired effect. Could anyone suggest how to make ALSA properly restore audio levels on start-up, or perhaps to unmute and set Master to a predefined reasonable level? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: alsa does not (re-)store audio levels
On 9/20/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Do 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' work for root? Do you have the package alsa-utils installed? Yes, both work as expected: storing and restoring the correct levels. Also, alsa-utils 1.0.20-3 is installed. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: alsa does not (re-)store audio levels
On 9/20/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Is the script /etc/init.d/alsa-utils run on reboot? As far as I can tell you should see a Setting up ALSA message at boot. I don't know why the messages are garbled, but this is what I get ALSA-related in /var/log/boot: Sun Sep 20 22:42:23 2009: ^[[74G[ ok ]p ALSA... ^[[80G [..] Sun Sep 20 22:42:31 2009: ^[[33m*^[[39;49m Saved ALSA mixer settings detected; aumix will not touch mixer. The first message is probably Setting up ALSA. In any case, the issue described concerns only the levels of Master. All other levels, such as Speaker or PCM are properly restored. I start suspecting that smth mutes Master after the correct levels are loaded (perhaps Xfce's mixer?). Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/20/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote:
nothing is wrong - you may have many input/outputs. you have to figure out
which controls are for the headphones. Unfortunately it depends on your
card. Mostprobably you have to assign the correct output to your
application.
In alsamixer I see many headphone controls and if I plug into the headphone
jack it works fine
In the mixer (both alsa and xfce) I have only one Headphones volume
control. Probably irrelevant, I also have IEC958 switches and
IEC958 Playback Source options; no idea what these are for.
I am not familiar with JACK. I just tried starting it from qjackctl,
but JACK failed to start.
amixer | grep Head
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
Simple mixer control 'Headphone as Line Out',0
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1
li...@debian-liv:~$ amixer | grep Head
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
This is the relevant part from amixer:
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 64
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 60 [94%] [-3.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Playback 60 [94%] [-3.00dB] [on]
As far as I can see here, the headphone levels are just fine. When
headphones are plugged, though, the audio is simply not switched to
these.
Also you can play with .asounrd
# from http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix
pcm.headset { # playback only on frontpanel headset
type route
slave.pcm dmixer
slave.channels 8
ttable.0.0 1 # headphones front L
ttable.1.1 1 # headphones front R
}
Before I try this one, would there be anything I could with the first two?
Thank you
Liviu
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Re: no sound in headphones
On 9/17/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: an issue that I also encountered in 2.6.26. Although I have sound in hte computer speaker, I have none in the headphones. When I plug the headphones (or external speakers), the computer speakers are not muted, and there is no sound in the external devices. The strange part is that in some specific instances, which I did not yet learn how to recreate, the plugging in the headphones works as expected. Any ideas on what might be wrong? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what if `alsactl init' doesn't configure sound?
Hello Sweet, sound works. Thank you a lot for your suggestions. I managed to get it working with a custom version of the sound file you posted. If curious, read below. Now I can switch to addressing the other breakages from the upgrade. Best Liviu On 9/17/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Have a look at the chip model cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* | grep Codec Codec: IDT 92HD73E1X5 Codec: Intel G45 DEVELK This is what I have, the first quite similar to yours. li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* | grep Codec Codec: IDT 92HD71B7X Codec: ATI RS690/780 HDMI Google about configuring this codec in my case (Codec: IDT 92HD73E1X5) I looked for IDT 92HD71B7X and found this thread [1], with a sound card also on an HP Pavilion (dv3/4) containing a lot of debug messages but no solutions. I also found this [2] one which suggested to use model=hp-m4 and enable_msi=1. Although I use them both, it seems that the latter did the trick. It's some story of missing interrupts from the codec. [1] http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/232051-yet-another-misbehaving-sound-system-hp-pavilion-dv4.html [2] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/142406-idt-audio-driver-support.html Also you can check the documentation in the kernel. [skip] Module snd-hda-intel [skip] /etc/modprobe.d/sound This is the file that works here: debian-liv:/home/liviu# cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound ## ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio ## module options should go here #ex. options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=dell-m6,ref,auto #options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1 options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 options snd-usb-audio index=1 Also, should someone use this thread below are some more debug messages: li...@debian-liv:~$ dmesg | grep -i hda [9.684546] HDA Intel :00:14.2: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 [9.684546] HDA Intel :00:14.2: setting latency timer to 64 [9.762957] input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/input/input9 [9.770780] input: HDA ATI SB Mic at Ext Front Jack as /devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/input/input10 [9.771052] input: HDA ATI SB HP Out at Ext Front Jack as /devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/input/input11 [9.772543] HDA Intel :01:05.1: PCI INT B - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19 [9.772543] HDA Intel :01:05.1: irq 29 for MSI/MSI-X [9.772543] HDA Intel :01:05.1: setting latency timer to 64 [ 10.788517] hda_intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last cmd=0x000f [ 11.792552] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f [ 26.348552] hdaps: supported laptop not found! [ 26.348552] hdaps: driver init failed (ret=-19)! [ 58.024163] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #1. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj. [ 84.912535] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x021f000a [ 85.916527] hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode: last cmd=0x021f000a debian-liv:/home/liviu# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.20 emulation code) Kernel: Linux debian-liv 2.6.30-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 18:09:19 UTC 2009 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: HDA ATI SB at 0xd240 irq 16 HDA ATI HDMI at 0xd231 irq 29 Audio devices: 0: STAC92xx Analog (DUPLEX) Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: 0: IDT 92HD71B7X 1: ATI RS690/780 HDMI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
no sound in headphones
Hello More sound trouble. This time sound is working on 2.6.30, but I have an issue that I also encountered in 2.6.26. Although I have sound in hte computer speaker, I have none in the headphones. When I plug the headphones (or external speakers), the computer speakers are not muted, and there is no sound in the external devices. Any ideas how to debug this? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
what if `alsactl init' doesn't configure sound?
Dear all I've just migrated from kernel 2.6.26 to 2.6.30, and I am unable to configure sound. The issue seems similar to the one I had initially in 2.6.26, but in the newest testing kernel `alasactl init' no longer solves the issue. The switches Master and PCM are not muted. What else could I try? Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what if `alsactl init' doesn't configure sound?
Hello On 9/16/09, Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Check if modules are in place and check /proc/asound cat /proc/asound/devices cat /proc/asound/cards I get this output in both kernels. li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [ 0] : control 1:: sequencer 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 32: [ 1] : control 33:: timer 51: [ 1- 3]: digital audio playback li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB HDA ATI SB at 0xd240 irq 16 1 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI HDA ATI HDMI at 0xd231 irq 19 These are the modules in the kernel with working sound: li...@debian-liv:~$ uname -a Linux debian-liv 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 22:33:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux li...@debian-liv:~$ lsmod | grep -i snd snd_hda_intel 436696 9 snd_pcm_oss41760 0 snd_mixer_oss 18816 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm81800 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_dummy 7428 0 snd_seq_oss33152 0 snd_seq_midi 11072 0 snd_rawmidi26784 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 11904 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq54304 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 25744 3 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 11668 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd63688 23 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 12064 2 snd snd_page_alloc 13072 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm These are the modules in the kernel where sound does not function: li...@debian-liv:~$ uname -a Linux debian-liv 2.6.30-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 18:09:19 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux li...@debian-liv:~$ lsmod | grep -i snd snd_hda_codec_atihdmi 3952 1 snd_hda_codec_idt 62480 1 snd_hda_intel 26680 6 snd_hda_codec 75248 3 snd_hda_codec_atihdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 8152 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm_oss37200 0 snd_mixer_oss 15072 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm78504 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_midi6976 0 snd_rawmidi23008 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 7712 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq51392 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 21824 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 7476 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd63912 21 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 7984 2 snd snd_page_alloc 1 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm Please advise. Liviu
Re: what if `alsactl init' doesn't configure sound?
On 9/17/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: I get this output in both kernels. li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [ 0] : control 1:: sequencer 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 32: [ 1] : control 33:: timer 51: [ 1- 3]: digital audio playback There is one difference, though. The above is for 2.6.26. The below is for 2.6.30: li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [ 0] : control 1:: sequencer 4: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent --- different 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 32: [ 1] : control 33:: timer 36: [ 1- 0]: hardware dependent --- different 51: [ 1- 3]: digital audio playback Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what if `alsactl init' doesn't configure sound?
Two more pieces of information: debian-liv:/home/liviu# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller Also, I just downgraded alsa-utils to stable 1.0.16-2, and alsaconf reported that no PnP or PCI cards were found. Liviu On 9/17/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: There is one difference, though. The above is for 2.6.26. The below is for 2.6.30: li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [ 0] : control 1:: sequencer 4: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent --- different 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 32: [ 1] : control 33:: timer 36: [ 1- 0]: hardware dependent --- different 51: [ 1- 3]: digital audio playback Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
upgrade dependencies of a package
Dear all How do I get upgrade all the dependencies of a given package to their newest available version? I do not want in the process to upgrade the entire distribution. I am looking something similar to Gentoo's emerge -av -DNu package Thank you Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
wicd fails to start (dbus related error)
Dear all Recently Wicd started to always fail at start-up, with a dbus related error: Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages. Strangely the icon will load, but when clicking to access the interface it will pop up the next error: The wicd daemon has shut down. The UI will not function properly until it is restarted. On the command line I get this: li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-client Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Can't connect to the daemon, trying to start it automatically... sudo: sorry, a password is required to run sudo Wicd daemon is shutting down! Done loading. I tried to switch back to NetworkManager, but it's too unstable for me. And I am not aware of other alternatives. At the end of the e-mail are the messages that I get when I run Wicd from the root commandline, and the log file. I get similar behaviour with both testing and sid versions (1.6.1 and 1.6.2.2). Thank you Liviu ### root command line ### debian-liv:/home/liviu# /etc/init.d/wicd restart * Restarting Network connection manager wicd [ ok ] debian-liv:/home/liviu# wicd-client libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Could not initalize pynotify Has notifications support False Loading... Connecting to daemon... Can't connect to the daemon, trying to start it automatically... GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) Wicd daemon is shutting down! ** (wicd-client.py:9691): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed ** (wicd-client.py:9691): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed ** (wicd-client.py:9691): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed Done loading. ### log file ### 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: --- 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: wicd initializing... 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: --- 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: wicd is version 1.6.1 426 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: Traceback (most recent call last): 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/share/wicd/wicd-daemon.py, line 1747, in module 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: main(sys.argv) 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/share/wicd/wicd-daemon.py, line 1711, in main 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: daemon = WicdDaemon(wicd_bus, auto_connect=auto_connect) 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/share/wicd/wicd-daemon.py, line 87, in __init__ 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: self.wired_bus= WiredDaemon(bus_name, self, wired=self.wired) 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/share/wicd/wicd-daemon.py, line 1327, in __init__ 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: debug=debug) 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/share/wicd/wicd/configmanager.py, line 40, in __init__ 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: self.read(path) 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py, line 267, in read 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: self._read(fp, filename) 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: File /usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py, line 490, in _read 2009/09/11 10:35:26 :: raise e
Re: wicd fails to start (dbus related error)
Hello On 9/11/09, Sjoerd Hardeman sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl wrote: Try to restart the dbus, and check if you are in the proper group (netdev). I am currently in netdev, and just couple of days ago wicd 95% of the times started fine (recently I did some upgrades, including the lenny kernel). debian-liv:/home/liviu# groups liviu liviu : liviu dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev netdev wheel I also restarted dbus, without any change in wicd behaviour. I also get this behaviour in newly booted system. debian-liv:/home/liviu# /etc/init.d/dbus restart * Stopping PulseAudio Daemon No process in pidfile `/var/run/pulse/pid' found running; none killed. ... pulseaudio is not running[ ok ] * Stopping bluetooth[ ok ] * Stopping Hardware abstraction layer hald [ ok ] * Stopping Network connection manager wicd [ ok ] * Stopping Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon avahi-daemon[ ok ] * Stopping system message bus dbus [ ok ] * Starting system message bus dbus [ ok ] * Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon avahi-daemon[ ok ] * Starting Network connection manager wicd [ ok ] * Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald [ ok ] * Starting bluetooth[ ok ] debian-liv:/home/liviu# /etc/init.d/wicd restart * Restarting Network connection manager wicd[ ok ] Besides nm and wicd there's also connman. Very new and not yet packaged, I have no idea how it works: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/connman There is also the alpha (and under little development) airconfig [1], but I will try these only when everything else fails. Thank you Liviu [1] http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: upgrade dependencies of a package
Hello, On 9/11/09, Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: aptitude -s install '~i~R^package$' If you like the list of actions that aptitude shows in response to that command then you can run it again without -s. I prefer to use the interactive interface of aptitude if I want to carry out such fine-grained changes to my system. How do I tell aptitude that I prefer testing packages? From what I see, it would currently bump everything to sid. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: upgrade dependencies of a package
On 9/11/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: How do I tell aptitude that I prefer testing packages? From what I see, it would currently bump everything to sid. OK, I found. aptitude -t testing Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Laptop getting so warm : (
On 9/7/09, Hashimoto xano@gmail.com wrote: I believe the problem is not the java/flash, the firefox doesn't work very well with many tabs. At least now it's in a good temperature. Not aiming for a browser flame-war, here, but check Opera (and perhaps Midori) for a browser alternative, when Firefox starts misbehaving. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Laptop getting so warm : (
Hello On 8/29/09, Hashimoto xano@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I'm back ; ) But with the same problem : ( My laptop is getting near to 70C easily running firefox or a virtual machine in VirtualBox. Did you play with cpufreq-info and cpufreq-set? I often put the --max to some intermidiary value while choosing the ondemand governor. This ensures reponsive system and acceptably low temp. Alos, 70C could be just fine. Here on AMD with performance governor 75C is idle temp. With ondemand, 60C is idle temp and I do not start getting worried until the temp gets to 90C. li...@debian-liv:~$ acpitool -t Thermal zone 1 : ok, 63 C Trip points : - critical (S5): 110 C hot (S4):105 C But I guess I could be morme tolerant. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to play iso dvd without kde?
On 8/24/09, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@cantv.net wrote: Please, do you have any idea of what to do? gnome-mplayer (which is not necessarily gnome-dependent) Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/21/09, go...@dobosevic.com go...@dobosevic.com wrote: Don't know I don't have 64 just 32 :-( Andrei, are you using 64 or 32 bits? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/20/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Would be interesting to know which package (libpam-ck-connector, consolekit or policykit) is responsible for this. The Xfce bug needs reassigning. Should this info be of any interest, a fresh install of Ubuntu Jackalope had no such issues. Bringing the system up-to-date introduced the same offensive behaviour. Might make sense to check the version changes in Ubuntu for these packages. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/20/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: I don't run Ubuntu, so can't help here. I will have to do some regression tests, by downgrading one (or as few packages as possible) at a time. Unfortunately snapshots is down which makes it harder. Since at release time Ubuntu is patched Debian sid, I feel that the issue affects both distributions in a very similar way. Understanding what happens in Ubuntu may help understand what happens in Debian. Ubuntu 9.04 came with [1]: libpam-ck-connector 0.3.0-2ubuntu3 consolekit 0.3.0-2ubuntu3 policykit 0.9-2ubuntu1 With the default distribution xfce shutdown/reboot worked just fine. Up-to-date Ubuntu [2] has: libpam-ck-connector (0.3.0-2ubuntu4) consolekit (0.3.0-2ubuntu4) It seems that policykit hasn't been updated. With the updated packages the issue arose. Perhaps these PolicyKit.conf rules for Ubuntu would work on Debian [3]. Hmm, I ain't very sure that all this is of any help. Liviu [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/allpackages [2] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty-updates/allpackages [3] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2009-June/001779.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/20/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, but what about Xfce (especially xfce4-session), is it version 4.4 or 4.6? xfce4 (4.6.0) xfce4-session (4.6.0-1ubuntu2) The two packages included in the default Jackalope have not been updated. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/20/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Since at release time Ubuntu is patched Debian sid, I feel that the issue affects both distributions in a very similar way. Understanding what happens in Ubuntu may help understand what happens in Debian. There is one Ubuntu bug report [1] that may apply to our case. Especially comment #8 seems interesting. Liviu [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/251337 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/20/09, go...@dobosevic.com go...@dobosevic.com wrote: I was just install Debian Squeeze on one laptop. After installation I was remove Gnome and install XFCE. Shutdown and restart works normal without any tweaking. In Xfce, did you try to open a root terminal, or synaptic, and shutdown/reboot? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/20/09, go...@dobosevic.com go...@dobosevic.com wrote: I just tried with opened Synaptic and it's worked. Is there any chance that this issue be linked to the architecture? I'm running amd64. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gnome-volume-manager problem
On 8/18/09, AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed that /usr/lib/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager is not working after the recent apt-get update to testing? You could try thunar-volman. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Magic SysRq reboot (was Re: switching to proprietary ati radeon driver)
On 8/17/09, Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: I can't really help you with your problem, but a hard shutdown is almost never necessary. You can send various low-level commands to your kernel using the SysRq Key [1], which will allow you to reboot a computer without corrupting the filesystem. Nope, this didn't work on my panic-ed kernel. From my experience with Gentoo, kernels can quite often hang and not respond to SysRq. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
Dear all, More shutdown blues. Whenever I hit the Restart/Shut Down buttons in Xfce log-off-er, I get the following error, and the system falls back to gdm. Unable to perform shutdown org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown-multiple-sessions auth_admin -- (action, result) I get the exact same issue on an up-to-date Ubuntu Jackalope, and here I'm running Debian Squeeze. I see that the issue was discussed on Debian [1] and Ubuntu [2]. Following the Debian thread, I checked that I have libpam-ck-connector and policykit installed. I've read that the issue might go away if an appropriate PolicyKit.conf was configured. Could anyone attach a PolicyKit.conf that works on Debian Squeeze? Or perhaps suggest a different way to work around the issue? Thank you Liviu [1] http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2009-04/msg08404.html [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2009-June/001778.html li...@debian-liv:~$ polkit-auth | grep -i power org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.set-powersave org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.suspend org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.hibernate org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.cpufreq org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.lcd-panel org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.light-sensor org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.keyboard-backlight -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
Hello, The /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf that I have is an exact replica of the one that you attached. Unfortunately it is not enough to shutdown/reboot Xfce. I am looking for one similar to the one attached in this e-mail [1], but that is known to solve the issue. Liviu [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org/msg641252.html On 8/19/09, go...@dobosevic.com go...@dobosevic.com wrote: here is my PolicyKit.conf from Sid XFCE (upgrade from Squeeze): ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !-- -*- XML -*- -- !DOCTYPE pkconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD PolicyKit Configuration 1.0//EN http://hal.freedesktop.org/releases/PolicyKit/1.0/config.dtd; !-- See the manual page PolicyKit.conf(5) for file format -- config version=0.1 /config I really don't remember how I did it but it was first link from google. If I can send you something else let me know. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gnome-volume-manager problem
Hello, On 8/19/09, AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: Cheers Liviu - have you got that set up on your rig and do you use Gnome as your DE? If so, how do you get it to be initialised (assuming it is a daemon) at login? It should suffice installing thunar-volman and enable it via $ Thunar, Edit Preferences Advanced Volume management. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to perform shutdown from Xfce
On 8/19/09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you are seeing bug #526009. Try closing all 'su' or similar sessions before trying to shutdown. Thanks. From the potential solutions mentioned, at least this trick works. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
restarting X fails and generates kernel panic on halt (was Re: Magic SysRq reboot (was Re: switching to proprietary ati radeon driver))
(Sorry for the long re-naming, but I fell the thread should get its proper name as the issue evolves) On 8/17/09, Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: and voilà the system reboots and your data is as safe as possible. Thank you, I completely forgot about this one. Two issues though: 1. In an older discussion on Gentoo ML, it was suggested that the SysRq procedure was normally designed for emergency situations only, and not for regular usage. Currently my laptop would qualify for SysRq shutdowns/reboots, but I would prefer to avoid using it for months. 2. Restarting X, such as when I log off Xfce and gdm restarts, will fail. This is almost certainly caused by the fglrx driver/setup, to which I switched these days. I also believe that this failure causes the kernel panic on shutdowns/reboots after X failed to restart (although panics can sometimes not happen). On gdm restart, X will complain of ddm module already built in. There are no such complaints during regular system boot, and initial start-up of X. Would anyone have ideas on how to get to the bottom of this issue? Thank you Liviu ## Sys info ## -Computer- Processor : 2x AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-72 Memory : 3804MB (1014MB used) Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid User Name : liviu (Liviu) Date/Time : Tue 18 Aug 2009 11:50:14 BST -Display- Resolution : 1280x800 pixels OpenGL Renderer : ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation -Multimedia- Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI -Input Devices- Macintosh mouse button emulation AT Translated Set 2 keyboard Power Button (FF) Power Button (CM) Lid Switch PC Speaker Video Bus Video Bus SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad HP Webcam -Printers (CUPS)- psc_1200_first -SCSI Disks- ATA Hitachi HTS54323 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GS20N Generic- Multi-Card -Version- Kernel : Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 (x86_64) Compiled: #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 04:47:08 UTC 2009 C Library : GNU C Library version 2.9 (stable) Default C Compiler : GNU C Compiler version 4.3.3 (Debian 4.3.3-14) Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid -Current Session- Computer Name : debian-liv User Name : liviu (Liviu) Home Directory : /home/liviu Desktop Environment : XFCE 4 -Misc- Uptime : 1 hour, 32 minutes Load Average: 0.26, 0.30, 0.27 -Display- Resolution : 1280x800 pixels Vendor : The X.Org Foundation Version : 1.4.2 -Monitors- Monitor 0 : 1280x800 pixels -Extensions- ATIFGLEXTENSION ATIFGLRXDRI ATITVOUT BIG-REQUESTS Composite DAMAGE DOUBLE-BUFFER DPMS Extended-Visual-Information GLX MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RANDR RECORD RENDER SECURITY SGI-GLX SHAPE SYNC TOG-CUP X-Resource XAccessControlExtension XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XFIXES XFree86-Bigfont XFree86-DGA XFree86-DRI XFree86-Misc XFree86-VidModeExtension XINERAMA XINERAMA XInputExtension XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo XVideo-MotionCompensation glesx -OpenGL- Vendor : ATI Technologies Inc. Renderer: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Version : 2.1.8494 Release Direct Rendering: Yes ## End of Sys info ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: restarting X fails and generates kernel panic on halt (was Re: Magic SysRq reboot (was Re: switching to proprietary ati radeon driver))
Hello, On 8/18/09, thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: I recently bought a HP 6730s with a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430 graphic chip. I run Squeeze/Sid AMD64 just like you, and with 2.6.26* kernel and the associated fglrx I ran into all kind of troubles: impossibility to switch between virtual consoles, acpi going havoc with computer sometime not halting, bunch of weird errors in dmesg and Xorg.o.log, screen never coming up after kdm restart... I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.30*, xorg and fglrx from Sid, and it's working like a charm. It's working great with the radeon driver too, with full 2D acceleration, but 3D performances are still really poor. I can restart kdm without problem and switch back and forth virtual consoles. Maybe the kernel/fglrx couple is just too old, and pre 9.5 fglrx are known to have all kind of issues with virtual consoles switching. In a previous e-mail you mentioned this: if you are running a 2.6.30 kernel the testing fglrx won't build, you have to upgrade xorg and fglrx stuff to Sid. Does the sid xorg still apply? I would not be ready at the moment to experiment with a sid X. Moreover, I found out that issuing halt/reboot from a console within X would more or less shut the system cleanly (at least no kernel panics and stuff), which would mean that my immediate issue is solved. Thank you for the suggestions Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: where's my xorg.conf?
On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Section InputDevice Option SHMConfig true EndSection Can't hurt to try... Nope, this didn't work. X refused to restart, unable to parse xorg.conf. Thanks all the rest for their suggestions; I will try them when I get off the current production mode. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: switching to proprietary ati radeon driver (was Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm)
On 8/17/09, Johan Grönqvist johan.gronqv...@gmail.com wrote: I can not help you with that way of doing things, but I have had success running aticonfig --initial, which creates an xorg.conf to work for a basic system. Thank you, this helped (I already had the fglrx driver built). On system boot X (and gdm) will start just fine. And on a first look the GUI seems faster, glxgears reports 1500 fps, mplayer plays better and the temp lower. I get a distinct issue, though. Logging out of Xfce will stop X, but then gdm will fail to re-load X. It will complain of some ddm module already built-in. Worse is that then the kernel somewhat crashes, and will not react if I send a halt/reboot command from a root terminal. It will say that it sent the signal, but the shutdown does not complete and the system hangs, meaning that I have to resort to using the hard-halt via the power button. Rebooting/Halting from Xfce works as expected (and it didn't previously with the default drivers). Any ideas on how to tackle these errors? Liviu debian-liv:/home/liviu# uname -a Linux debian-liv 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 04:47:08 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: switching to proprietary ati radeon driver (was Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm)
Hello, On 8/17/09, thveillon.debian thveillon.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: A piece of advice, if you are running a 2.6.30 kernel the testing fglrx won't build, you have to upgrade xorg and fglrx stuff to Sid. That's what I am running right now and it works fine. Read about package pinning, /etc/apt/preferences to keep a mixed system clean. Ati 9.7 fglrx installer won't build either, and (gentoo) patches floating around are no good with this version (might work with 9.6). Thank you for the suggestions. I guess I'll stick with 2.6.26 for now. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: switching to proprietary ati radeon driver (was Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm)
On 8/17/09, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Logging out of Xfce will stop X, but then gdm will fail to re-load X. It will complain of some ddm module already built-in. Worse is that I still get this error. then the kernel somewhat crashes, and will not react if I send a halt/reboot command from a root terminal. It will say that it sent the signal, but the shutdown does not complete and the system hangs, meaning that I have to resort to using the hard-halt via the power But this one was a false alert. After disabling clamav autoupdating of the virus database, the system halted without issues after a gdm restart (where X no longer started). I'd still much like to be able to logout without issues. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
where's my xorg.conf?
Dear all, I'm on a fresh Debian testing, and I do not seem to find the correct xorg.conf. The usual file is empty. debian-liv:/home/liviu# ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf -l -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-08-02 18:33 /etc/X11/xorg.conf Please advise. Thank you Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: where's my xorg.conf?
On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: That appears to be normal in newer versions of x.org. But then, how do I add the option ` SHMConfig' 'true' '? Do I pluck it to the empty file? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: where's my xorg.conf?
On 8/16/09, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: In the Section/EndSection wrapper. That's what I'd try. Should such syntax avoid breaking anything? Inspired from here [1]. Section InputDevice Option SHMConfig true EndSection Thank you Liviu [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492984 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
switching to proprietary ati radeon driver (was Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm)
Hello, On 8/16/09, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: P.S. I've also noticed that the laptop runs hotter when the free graphics driver is used, as opposed to the proprietary ATI one. I also have an HP Dual core 2.1GHz, and it gets kinda to warm during idle work (hovers around 65-67 C); my Debian testing is using the default drivers for this. On Ubuntu, however, with the proprietary drivers installed, temp will stay below 60 for idle usage. (All this with ondemand cpufreq governor. With performance temp is steadily 75C, and the fan goes loud.) I tried to switch Debian to use the fglrx driver following the steps suggested on the wiki [1], but I get into trouble. I'm unable to perform step 5, # modprobe -r radeon drm since I don't have the drivers loaded: debian-liv:/home/liviu# lsmod | grep -i radeon debian-liv:/home/liviu# lsmod | grep -i drm Could anyone suggest how to determine the driver currently used by the system? Thank you Liviu [1] http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
