Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
> audio player: xmms2, amarok > > cd-ripper: > > desktop OR window manager: openbox, xfce4 > > DBMS: mysql > > development: g++, python > > disc burner: k3b > > e-mail client: mutt > > file manager: thunar > > finance: (there is not floss named "bailout" unfortunately AFAIK) > > ftp client: lftp > > games: xmoto > > image editor: gimp > > image viewer: qiv > > instant messenger: finch > > mathematics: R, python, maxima > > misc utilities: screen, dvtm, remind, wyrd > > p2p: amule, deluge > > package manager: apt > > pdf-reader: xpdf, kpdf > > spreadsheet: oocalc > > tag editor: > > terminal emulator: urxvt > > text editor: vim > > video player: mplayer > > web browser: iceweasel > > word-processor: latex > > non-free: > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing repeating keypresses in X
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a strange problem with Xorg: > > Installed lenny today from the daily built netinst, all went fine. > > apt-get install xorg xmonad > ## installed nvidia drivers from nvidia.com as I have dualhead and a > (until yet) working xorg.conf > > Now when I open a terminal (xterm) and press e.g. "a" keep holding it > down I don't get repeated "a"'s in my term. It's like only the first > keypress is recognized. To turn repeat on, run: xset r on You can man xset for more manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iceweasel random crash
Hi all,
After an upgrade to iceweasel 3 (i'm running sid), iceweasel crashed
like every a few minutes and it's just unusable. I managed to run
strace iceweasel and the following is the line before it crashed:
10:51:25 madvise(0xab7a4000, 28672, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab78b000, 61440, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab76d000, 110592, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab761000, 40960, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab751000, 61440, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab749000, 28672, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab724000, 40960, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab71f000, 4096, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab713000, 36864, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab70b000, 4096, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab706000, 4096, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 madvise(0xab603000, 262144, 0x4 /* MADV_??? */) = 0
10:51:25 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
10:51:25 unlink("/home/manu/.mozilla/firefox/021o4gkw.default/lock") = 0
10:51:25 rt_sigaction(SIGSEGV, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0
10:51:25 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [SEGV], NULL, 8) = 0
10:51:25 tgkill(18426, 18426, SIGSEGV) = 0
10:51:25 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
10:51:25 +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
Any clue what went wrong?
manu
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Re: ps2pdf problem on sid
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Florian Kulzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > [ Please try to turn off the HTML part of your messages. ] > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 20:28:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm running sid on two different machines. I just update/upgrade both > > machines. However, I can run ps2pdf successful on one, but get error on > the > > other. The error I get is > > > > $ ps2pdf gpcard.ps > > Unrecoverable error: typecheck in readonly > > Operand stack: > > _cjkv_base_util --nostringval-- 0 > > > > The file I used is http://www.gnuplot.info/docs_4.0/gpcard.ps.gz > > Compare the output of these commands on the two machines: > > gs -v both show $ gs -v GPL Ghostscript 8.62 (2008-02-29) Copyright (C) 2008 Artifex Software, Inc. All rights reserved. > > dpkg -S bin/ps2pdf both show $ dpkg -S bin/ps2pdf ghostscript: /usr/bin/ps2pdfwr ghostscript: /usr/bin/ps2pdf12 ghostscript: /usr/bin/ps2pdf13 ghostscript: /usr/bin/ps2pdf14 ghostscript: /usr/bin/ps2pdf I think somehow the gs package is corrupted in one of my machine. I try removing it and reinstalling it again, it works fine now. Thanks for the help! Manu
ps2pdf problem on sid
Hi all, I'm running sid on two different machines. I just update/upgrade both machines. However, I can run ps2pdf successful on one, but get error on the other. The error I get is $ ps2pdf gpcard.ps Unrecoverable error: typecheck in readonly Operand stack: _cjkv_base_util --nostringval-- 0 The file I used is http://www.gnuplot.info/docs_4.0/gpcard.ps.gz Thanks a lot.
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failure
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri May 23 2008 13:54:59 Manu Hack wrote: > > > That's not quite true. Attributes such as immutable are > > > sometimes set by malware or disk errors. OP please show > > > us the output of the following two commands: > > > > > > file /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo > > > > /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo: GNU message catalog > > (little endian), revision 0, 106 messages > > > > lsattr -d /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES > > > > suSDiadAc-ZXEj-tT- /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.m > > > > What's happening? > > The file attributes are complete garbage. Probably a minor > hardware glitch. Remove all attributes and try the upgrade > again. Here's the command, and yes the "=" is surrounded > by spaces. > > "chattr = /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo" > It works! Debian is the best! Thanks a lot! Manu
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failure
Sorry guys, haven't been able to use that box until now. On 5/16/08, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri May 16 2008 18:05:57 Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > > > Manu Hack wrote: > > > is so weird that even sudo rm > > > /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo > > > said I don't have the permission to do so. > > > (Operation not permitted) > > > > > Try becoming root with 'sudo -i' and remove that file. root should be > > able to delete any regular file irrespective of whether it is being used > > or not. Nobody tells root he can't do something (outside of some special > > directories). You should suspect something seriously wrong if your > > system behaves otherwise. > > > That's not quite true. Attributes such as immutable are > sometimes set by malware or disk errors. OP please show > us the output of the following two commands: > > > file /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo: GNU message catalog (little endian), revision 0, 106 messages lsattr -d /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES suSDiadAc-ZXEj-tT- /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.m What's happening? Manu
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failure
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Preston Boyington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manu Hack wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I decided to upgrade my etch box to lenny/sid but an apt-get dist-upgrade >> got stuck. Please let me know what could be done here. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Manu >> >> >> > i wonder if you could do this: > > dpkg -i --force-overwrite > /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo2-common_2.22.0-1_all.deb > > i've had to use --force-overwrite from time to time... > Forgot to reply all. Still getting the same error of dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libbonobo2-common_2.22.0-1_all.deb (--unpack): unable to make backup link of `./usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo' before installing new version: Operation not permitted dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Got the same error with apt-get -f install And the file /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/libbonobo-2.0.mo is so weird that even sudo rm /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/ libbonobo-2.0.mo said I don't have the permission to do so. (Operation not permitted) Manu
apt-get dist-upgrade failure
Hi, I decided to upgrade my etch box to lenny/sid but an apt-get dist-upgrade got stuck. Please let me know what could be done here. Thanks a lot. Manu $ sudo apt-get update Hit http://ftp.debian.org etch Release.gpg Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg Hit http://ftp.debian.org etch Release Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing Release Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release Ign http://ftp.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://ftp.debian.org etch/main Sources/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org etch/main Packages Hit http://ftp.debian.org etch/main Sources Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources Reading package lists... Done $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libbonobo2-0: Depends: libbonobo2-common (= 2.22.0-1) but 2.14.0-3 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. $ sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: libcamel1.2-8 libebook1.2-5 libgssapi2 libnss3-0d libopal-2.2.0 libpci2 libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-v4l libssp0 The following NEW packages will be installed: acpi-support-base bsd-mailx eject filters g++-4.2 gcc-4.2 grub-common gs gs-common gs-gpl hal hal-info kdebase-bin-kde3 libavcodec1d libavformat1d libavutil1d libbind9-30 libc-ares1 libcamel1.2-11 libccid libcdio7 libcrypto++7 libcurl3-gnutls libdevmapper1.02.1 libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdirectfb-extra libdmx1 libdns32 libebml0 libebook1.2-9 libecal1.2-7 libedata-cal1.2-6 libegroupwise1.2-13 libfaad0 libflac8 libfreebob0 libgdata-google1.2-1 libgdata1.2-1 libgif4 libgssglue1 libiec61883-0 libilmbase6 libisc32 libisccc30 libisccfg30 libiso9660-5 libiw29 libjack0 libjasper1 libltdl3 liblwres30 liblzo2-2 libmatroska0 libnetpbm10 libnss3-1d libobparser16 libobrender16 libopal-2.2 libopenexr6 libpam-gnome-keyring libpci3 libpcsclite1 libpostproc1d libpq5 libpt-1.10.10 libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l librarian0 libsamplerate0 libsmbios-bin libsmbios1 libsmbiosxml1 libsnack2 libsoup2.4-1 libsox-fmt-alsa libsox-fmt-base libsox0 libspeexdsp1 libsplashy1 libssh2-1 libstdc++6-4.2-dev libts-0.0-0 libx86-1 linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 netcat-traditional netpbm nvclock openssh-blacklist pcscd pm-utils psfontmgr python-sepolgen tcl8.5 tk8.5 uuid-runtime vim-gnome x11-apps x11-session-utils x11-utils x11-xfs-utils x11-xkb-utils x11-xserver-utils xauth xinit xorg-docs xserver-xorg-video-intel The following packages will be upgraded: acpi acpi-support acpid alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils amsn amule amule-common anacron apmd at bc bind9-host bootchart busybox ca-certificates chameleon-cursor-theme comixcursors console-tools cowsay cpp-4.1 cpufrequtils cron crystalcursors cyrus-sasl2-doc dc debfoster debian-archive-keyring dhcp3-client dhcp3-common dictionaries-common dmidecode dnsutils docbook-xml docker dselect ed ekiga evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light exuberant-ctags feh finger g++ g++-4.1 galeon galeon-common gcc gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base giblib1 gnome-doc-utils gnome-keyring gnu-efi gnupg gpgv grub grub-splashimages gsfonts gzip hdparm hibernate hicolor-icon-theme hostname hotkey-setup iamerican ibritish iceweasel imlib-base imlib11 info initramfs-tools initscripts installation-report iptables iputils-ping ispell kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdm klibc-utils klogd laptop-detect less lesstif2 lftp liba52-0.7.4 libaa1 libapm1 libapr1 libarts1c2a libartsc0 libaudio2 libavahi-qt3-1 libblkid1 libbonobo2-common libcaca0 libcdparanoia0 libconsole libcpufreq0 libcucul0 libcurl3 libdb4.2 libdb4.3 libdb4.4 libdc1394-13 libdvbpsi4 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 libedata-book1.2-2 libedit2 libevent1 libflash-mozplugin libflash0c2 libfontenc1 libfribidi0 libgc1c2 libgcj7-jar libgd2-noxpm libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libgnome-desktop-2 libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnutls13 libgpmg1 libgsm1 libgtk2.0-bin libgtop2-common libhtml-tagset-perl libidn11 libimlib2 libjack0.100.0-0 libklibc liblcms1 libldap2 liblircclient0 liblockfile1 liblogfile-rotate-perl liblua50 liblualib50 libmad0 libmodplug0c2 libmpeg2-4 libmysqlclient15off libnfsidmap2 libogg0 libpaper1
Re: How do I change cursor/mouse pointer?
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Dennis G. Wicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NN_il_Confusionario wrote the following on 05/08/2008 10:48 AM: > >> On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:11:26AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: >> >>> NN_il_Confusionario wrote the following on 05/07/2008 09:46 AM: >>> less /usr/share/doc/big-cursor/README.Debian (this is a useful general rule) >>> that is nowhere near intuitive! >>> >> >> many debian packages have documentation in /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGENAME >> and often there is a README.Debian (or similar names) with debian specific >> post-installation instructions. >> >> new session for a new user and I still have the same small cursors and >>> mouse pointers. >>> >> >> you do not need a new "session" but a new istance of the X server (or >> possibly not, as the above file explains). If you are using gdm / kdm / >> xdm / wdm ... (as opposed to startx), then a logout does NOT start a new >> istance of the X server, since the display manager ?dm keeps alive the >> old istance of X. >> >> You can restart the display manager /etc/init.d/gdm restart >> and/or kill the X server (and so lose all unsaved data in your session) >> from the X server itself (unless disabled in xorg.conf): >> >> with a console command: killall X >> and/or >> log in in console and manually start a new X istance: >> startx -- :1 >> >> > OK, I started a third instance by logging on a third linux user on a > console (tty3) and running startx -- :2 > and there was no difference in the new session. > > I have two other instances(?) of x-session-manager running. Do I have to > get all of these shutdown for the change to take effect? > Okay, let me try one more time. If you have ooffice, try the following: sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme choose something dfferent from what you're using. Then run ooffice. On the area of the openoffice windows, hope you can see the dfference. I don't know exactly why, but on my machine after running update-alternatives, the cursor won't change immediately but if I run ooffice, after that I can always see the change on the openoffice windows. Manu
Re: How do I change cursor/mouse pointer?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Dennis G. Wicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> H.S. wrote the following on 05/07/2008 12:26 AM:
>
> > Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
> >
> > > Manu Hack wrote the following on 05/06/2008 01:11 PM:
> > >
> > > Sorry, I tried both suggestions and I don't see any changes of
> > > differences in anything.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> >
> >
> > Could you list the steps and actions you tried?
> >
>
> As per your previous:
>
> On debian Lenny:
> >
> > {~}$> apt-cache search cursors
> > big-cursor - larger mouse cursors for X
> > comixcursors - X11 mouse theme with a comic feeling
> > crystalcursors - X11 mouse theme with the crystal look&feel
> > dmz-cursor-theme - Style neutral, scalable cursor theme
> > icoutils - Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors
> > libxcursor1 - X cursor management library
> > oxygencursors - Oxygen mouse cursor theme
> > python-psycopg2 - Python module for PostgreSQL
> > uqm - The Ur-Quan Masters - An inter-galatic adventure game
> > uqm-russian - Russian addon for 'The Ur-Quan Masters' game
> > uqm-content - The Ur-Quan Masters - Game data files
> >
>
> Then aptitude install big-cursor
>
> Nothing changed so I went searching through Gnome menus for anything to do
> with mouse or cursor and found nothing that would give me any choices to
> change cursors or mouse pointers.
>
> Then per per other response from Manu:
>
> update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
> >
>
> Chose a couple different ones and again nothing changed. Again I could
> find nothing in Gnome that allowed me to change cursors or mouse pointers.
>
> Is there something else I need to do?
>
I'm using openbox, and it works for me. But note that the change is not
immediate. While it's not necessary to restart X, did you try restarting X
and see if it changes after that?
Manu
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Re: How do I change cursor/mouse pointer?
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Dennis G. Wicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings; > > Search as I may I can not find how to do this. > > I am running gnome and a hi-res screen. My cursor and mouse pointer are > too small to see easily on the screen. How do I make them bigger? > sudo apt-get install chameleon-cursor-theme (or any other theme you like) sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme and choose the one you like. For example I chose /usr/share/icons/Chameleon-Pearl-Large/cursor.theme, which is large enough for me. Manu
Re: Debian is losing its users
Now many people believe what google says and let google think for themselves. Dangerous. manu
Re: vertical scroll on my touchpad not working
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 10:11:45PM -0700, Dave Thayer wrote: > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 01:42:15PM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > Hi > > > > I've installed debian amd64 on a Toshiba laptop A215-S7413. I failed > > to get the touchpad vertical scrolling to work (basic functions work > > fine). Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > > > I just rebuilt my xorg.conf on my old laptop due to a fairly bizarre > problem involving man running away (100% cpu), but only on urxvt terms > with over 36 lines. There was so much cruft in my xorg.conf that I > decided to start from scratch, which solved my problem. At any rate, I > had to re-install the synaptics driver, and one difference I noticed > with your xorg.conf is you have no ServerLayout stanza at the end. > > Here's mine: > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier"Default Layout" > Screen "Default Screen" > InputDevice"Generic Keyboard" > InputDevice"Synaptics Touchpad" > InputDevice "USB Mouse" "CorePointer" > EndSection That works, after adding the serverlayout section. Thanks a lot guys! Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vertical scroll on my touchpad not working
Hi I've installed debian amd64 on a Toshiba laptop A215-S7413. I failed to get the touchpad vertical scrolling to work (basic functions work fine). Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section "Module" Load"synaptics" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "AutoRepeat" "195 35" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps,altwin:left_meta_win" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics TouchPad" Driver "synaptics" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "SHMConfig" "on" Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on" Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "on" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" EndSection I looked at /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/trouble-shooting.txt.gz and found that number 5 may be talking about my problem: 5. Check that the synaptics driver is properly loaded by the X server - The X log file is usually called /var/log/XFree86.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It should contain something like this: (II) LoadModule: "synaptics" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 If the LoadModule line is missing, you probably forgot to add Load "synaptics" to the "Module" section in the X config file, or you modified the wrong config file. Some systems that have been upgraded from XFree86 to Xorg or from XFree86 3.x to XFree86 4.x can have multiple config files in the /etc/X11/ directory, but only one is used. Next, check that the log file also contains a line like this: (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.13.4 If there is no such line, there is probably a binary compatibility problem between the synaptics driver and the X server. Possible fixes: 1. Try upgrading to the latest synaptics driver. 2. Try installing the X SDK package if it is available for your version of X. (In Fedora Core 2, that package is called xorg-x11-sdk-6.7.0-2.i386.rpm.) Then re-compile the synaptics driver and try again. 3. Make sure the driver is compiled with the same compiler version as the X server. So I have on my /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) LoadModule: "synaptics" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0 but I couldn't find (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.13.4 (or some other version). Unlike on my other laptop, I can see this line among other options related to synaptics. Also, if I run qsynaptics it said please install driver so I suppose the driver may not be installed properly. So regarding the 3 suggestions from /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/trouble-shooting.txt.gz, I'm not exactly sure what to do on Debian. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks a lot. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Jan 23, 2008 11:48 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:33:09AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2008 10:57 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I've never used it but what about CPU throttling? There's some package > > > like CPU utils. Slow down the CPU and it runs cooler. Or complain to > > > the people that made a laptop that can't run at advertized spec. Is it > > > clean? Is the fan working? Is it on a hard surface or a soft > > > (insulating) one? > > > > The fan is working (I can tell as it's very noisy when I'm running > > programs) and it's on a wood table. Will look into the CPU throttling > > stuff later. > > Just because a fan is noisy doesn't mean its moving air. Acutally, it > could mean that the bearing is shot or the fan-shaft interface is > slipping. The motor may be going round full speed and the bios thinks > that all is fine but the fan is moving slowly. > > What is the temp of the air coming out of the laptop? It should be not > much above 25 C. I don't have a thermometer handy :) but the air coming out of the laptop is pretty hot sometimes. What's the implication? My fan is broken? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Jan 23, 2008 10:57 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 10:16:56AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > > The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know > > exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming > > programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is > > resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to > > avoid the forced shutdown. > > > > In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) > > I've never used it but what about CPU throttling? There's some package > like CPU utils. Slow down the CPU and it runs cooler. Or complain to > the people that made a laptop that can't run at advertized spec. Is it > clean? Is the fan working? Is it on a hard surface or a soft > (insulating) one? The fan is working (I can tell as it's very noisy when I'm running programs) and it's on a wood table. Will look into the CPU throttling stuff later. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Jan 23, 2008 8:41 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:20:48AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > Is there any command like nice so that I can run a command with a cpu > > limit of at most x%? cpulimit is close to my need but it can't be > > invoked like nice, i.e., put it before the command I want to run like > > > > cpulimit -l 50 some_commands > > Short answer: no. You mean the app uses e.g. max 50% and if nothing > else is running the CPU is then 50% idle? There was a long thread on > OpenBSD (where people discuss kernel internals) that concluded that UNIX > has never had a scheduler that could do this. > > What problem are you trying to solve where you think that this is the > answer? The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to avoid the forced shutdown. In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cpulimit
Hi all Debian users, Is there any command like nice so that I can run a command with a cpu limit of at most x%? cpulimit is close to my need but it can't be invoked like nice, i.e., put it before the command I want to run like cpulimit -l 50 some_commands Any input is appreciated. Thanks! Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Dec 18, 2007 11:06 AM, Ivan Savcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 16, 2007 5:50 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you all! > > > > Conclusion: > > > > Pros: > > - It's Debian! > > - It's Free! > > - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development > > style) > > - More open source softwares support > > > > Cons: > > - might harder to get your devices working. wifi, printer, dual > > display, iPod etc. > > - lost lots of OSX goodies (beautiful fonts, expose, widgets, > > spotlight, sleep mode etc.) > > - lost vendor's support > > - not bleeding edge enough for desktop role (compare to Ubuntu) how much better is Ubuntu compared with Sid? Recently I have a hard time trying to install Debian-amd64 on a Toshiba A215-S7413 (cannot use the ATI driver to use X, need to use vesa instead, no sound with hours of googling, decided to stop and take a break before going on working on the wireless card, I couldn't even shutdown properly http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg31118.html). Before I have already installed Debian-i386 on two Toshiba without any major problems (I don't use hibernate or suspense so didn't bother to try). Is it because of the amd64 version or just because the combination of the wireless/sound/video card is not debian-friendly? I should have been more careful picking the right laptop though (maybe before having two easy experience on Toshiba laptops made me think all Toshiba laptops are easy with debian ... ). well, just want to share some experience ... Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Nov 25, 2007 1:39 PM, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > I installed vim-latexsuite which installed vim-addon-manager. Then I > > entered 'vim-addons install latex-suite' to enable it. Now when I enter > > 'vim-addons show' I get: > > > > Addon: latex-suite > > Status: broken > > Description: comprehensive set of tools to view, edit, and compile LaTeX > > documents > > > > What is it that is broken? How do I fix it? > > > > I have the same problem after following your instructions; Should this > be filed as a bug report against vim-latexsuite? I have been unable to > get the suite working thus far, personally. > I forgot how I installed it but I found it very useful although it behaves slightly differently after vim upgraded from 6 to 7. Try downloading the suite directly from their website and just put it in you .vim. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
> I use Kpdf most of the time but xpdf has a smaller footprint (both > memory and disk space requirements). I have Kpdf on my main Athlon box > and xpdf on my PII. I can view a pdf directly on the PII with xpdf or I > can ssh -X into my athlon box and view it with Kpdf if I set Kpdf for > poor performance. Its stores rendered pages in the Xorg memory > footprint on the PII. If I'm really tight for memory, I'll run xpdf on > the Athlon and it will keep rendered pages on the Athlon. I also found kpdf outperform xpdf for big files. But the only reason I still keep using xpdf is that I can't set the vi key-binding (hjkl is enough) in kpdf. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xdvi shows no font
Hi, I'm using sid and usually I don't need to configure the font in order for xdvi to function properly. But now suddenly xdvi shows no font (I have file with some graphics it can show the graphics somehow but no words). So what should I do now? Thanks. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash reverse menu-complete
Hi, I was changing the key bindings in bash. I found the description of menu-complete in bash reference manual: menu-complete Similar to complete, but replaces the word to be completed with a single match from the list of possible completions. Repeated execution of menu-complete steps through the list of possible completions, inserting each match in turn. At the end of the list of completions, the bell is rung (subject to the setting of \Bbell-style) and the original text is restored. An argument of n moves n positions forward in the list of matches; a negative argument may be used to move backward through the list. This command is intended to be bound to TAB, but is unbound by default. so I added a line in .bashrc bind 'TAB:menu-complete' which works perfectly. Now the question is: how to bind shift + tab to move backward? Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome alarm clock / egg timer?
On 10/9/07, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there some sort of simple application out there for GNOME that acts like > an egg timer? You know, i enter in an amount of time, can watch it tick > down, and have it make some sort of loud obnoxious sound when it's done? Maybe not exactly what you wanted but on KDE kteatime works for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot run iceweasel on remote host
On 10/4/07, Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:44:24 -0400 > "Manu Hack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/3/07, Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:08:29 +0530 > > > Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am facing a weird problem when trying to run iceweasel on a > > > > remote host through an ssh session. I have logged into the remote > > > > host using "ssh -Y " and at the prompt of the remote > > > > host, I ran iceweasel. However it appears that a local instance > > > > of iceweasel is started. There is no iceweasel/firefox process at > > > > all on the remote host. The only way I could get iceweasel to run > > > > on the remote host is by closing all instances of iceweasel > > > > already running on the localhost. > > > > > > > > Is something wrong? > > > > > > No, it's a feature :-) > > > > > > > If not, how do I run separate instances of > > > > iceweasel concurrently? > > > > > > Invoke iceweasel on the remote host by issuing the command > > > 'iceweasel -no-remote'. > > > > It doesn't work for me. It still gave me a box saying: "Iceweasel is > > already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you > > must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your > > system. Any clue? > > > > Manu > > > > > > I'm not sure sure what you are trying to do, or how you are going > about it. Let's assume that you wish to connect to an existing > iceweasel instance from a remote host. > > First, try connecting from the same host. On that host, try the > command 'iceweasel -new-window http://www.debian.org'. What happens? It pops up a box say the same thing --- "Iceweasel is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your system.". Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resize the partition with /
On 10/4/07, Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manu Hack wrote: > >>> > >> If a couple of reboots is ok for you, the following method might work. > > > > Yes, and thanks a lot for the instruction. > > > >> You can use 'dd' to clone hda2 to hda1. Boot your system with > >> "init=/bin/bash". When you get to the bash prompt, do > >> > >> bash# dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1 > >> > >> When that completes, you would have your installation available on both > >> the partitions. The 5GB hda1 would contain a filesystem that is only 1GB > >> large. Restart your system. You would boot normally with a 1GB root. > >> > >> Edit "/boot/grub/menu.lst" and add an entry for the linux on hda1. > >> set root to (hd0,0) and append root=/dev/hda1 for the kernel line of the > >> new entry. > >> > >> mkdir /tmp/newroot; mount /dev/hda1 /tmp/newroot > >> > >> Edit the file /tmp/newroot/boot/grub/menu.lst and replace (hd0,1) with > >> (hda0,0) and root=/dev/hda2 with root=/dev/hda1. Similarly fix the root > >> filesystem entry in /tmp/newroot/etc/fstab by changing /dev/hda2 to > >> /dev/hda1. > >> > >> Now you should be able to boot into either of your two partitions. > > > > So I got two grub/menu.lst, but how grub knows which one to read (one > > is hda1 and one is hda2)? > > Grub will read the menu.lst from the partition that contained > /boot/grub/menu.lst when "grub-install" was run. So if I want grub to read the menu.lst from hda1, I should boot in using hda1 and run grub-install /dev/hda1 and then supposedly I can use hda2 for other storage? > > >> Feel free to post any problems you may have and make sure you take a > >> backup of important files before proceeding. > >> > > > > Finally I followed your instruction and now I got what I wanted. > > Really thanks a lot and hopefully this can help others too. (not to > > mention I learned a lot!) :) > > This is one important reason why I am in love with linux. :) A little > curiosity and it lets you learn everything you care about hardware/software. Yes, Linux is so good. After dual booting for a while I don't even want/need to use M$ anymore and that's why I want to kill M$ completely. (not to mention the label on the laptop!) :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resize the partition with /
On 10/1/07, Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount > > hda2 before resizing. People suggest using a live CD but it's not > > possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I > > can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com). USB boot is also not > > available. > > > > If a couple of reboots is ok for you, the following method might work. Yes, and thanks a lot for the instruction. > > You can use 'dd' to clone hda2 to hda1. Boot your system with > "init=/bin/bash". When you get to the bash prompt, do > > bash# dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1 > > When that completes, you would have your installation available on both > the partitions. The 5GB hda1 would contain a filesystem that is only 1GB > large. Restart your system. You would boot normally with a 1GB root. > > Edit "/boot/grub/menu.lst" and add an entry for the linux on hda1. > set root to (hd0,0) and append root=/dev/hda1 for the kernel line of the > new entry. > > mkdir /tmp/newroot; mount /dev/hda1 /tmp/newroot > > Edit the file /tmp/newroot/boot/grub/menu.lst and replace (hd0,1) with > (hda0,0) and root=/dev/hda2 with root=/dev/hda1. Similarly fix the root > filesystem entry in /tmp/newroot/etc/fstab by changing /dev/hda2 to > /dev/hda1. > > Now you should be able to boot into either of your two partitions. So I got two grub/menu.lst, but how grub knows which one to read (one is hda1 and one is hda2)? > > Once you have satisfied yourself that both are working, boot into your > 1GB partition, and resize hda1. The command "resize2fs /dev/hda1" should > be sufficient. > > Restart into the 5GB parition and now you would have a 5GB root with > over 4GB free space. > > Run "grub-install /dev/hda" so that grub can load itself from the new > location. > > You can now copy over your home directory from the 1GB partition and > continue using hda1. If you wish you format hda2 and mount it as /home. > > Feel free to post any problems you may have and make sure you take a > backup of important files before proceeding. > Finally I followed your instruction and now I got what I wanted. Really thanks a lot and hopefully this can help others too. (not to mention I learned a lot!) :) Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot run iceweasel on remote host
On 10/3/07, Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:08:29 +0530 > Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am facing a weird problem when trying to run iceweasel on a remote > > host through an ssh session. I have logged into the remote host using > > "ssh -Y " and at the prompt of the remote host, I ran > > iceweasel. However it appears that a local instance of iceweasel is > > started. There is no iceweasel/firefox process at all on the remote > > host. The only way I could get iceweasel to run on the remote host is > > by closing all instances of iceweasel already running on the > > localhost. > > > > Is something wrong? > > No, it's a feature :-) > > > If not, how do I run separate instances of > > iceweasel concurrently? > > Invoke iceweasel on the remote host by issuing the command 'iceweasel > -no-remote'. It doesn't work for me. It still gave me a box saying: "Iceweasel is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your system. Any clue? Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resize the partition with /
On 9/30/07, Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 04:17:42PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > > >> I have a problem with an old desktop running etch. Before it was > >> running XP + etch dual boot. But recently I have deleted the whole XP > >> partition. Now the problem is I started running out of space for the > >> etch. I want to resize the partition so that I can install more > >> programs and stuff like that. The current partition is like > >> > >> hda1 - 5G (before running XP) > >> hda2 - 1G ( etch is living here) > >> > >> So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount > >> hda2 before resizing. People suggest using a live CD but it's not > >> possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I > >> can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com). USB boot is also not > >> available. > >> > >> > > > > Have you considered reinstalling onto hda1 without removing hda2? > > > Or mount hda1 at some point on hda2 where you need the extra space. > Voila! 5 GB extra space. You could also remove hda1 and recreate > several partitions if you want to add space at multiple points in your > filesystem. That's what I'm doing. But is it possible to increase the size for apt-get upgrade and apt-get install? Right now I can use that 5G for personal use but for the main thing like in /usr what's the best way to make use of that 5G? Any good website showing how to do add space at multiple points in the file system? Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resize the partition with /
On 9/30/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 04:17:42PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > > > I have a problem with an old desktop running etch. Before it was > > running XP + etch dual boot. But recently I have deleted the whole XP > > partition. Now the problem is I started running out of space for the > > etch. I want to resize the partition so that I can install more > > programs and stuff like that. The current partition is like > > > > hda1 - 5G (before running XP) > > hda2 - 1G ( etch is living here) > > > > So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount > > hda2 before resizing. People suggest using a live CD but it's not > > possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I > > can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com). USB boot is also not > > available. > > > > Have you considered reinstalling onto hda1 without removing hda2? Not really. Mainly because that old laptop is really old. No other method is available to reboot other than that 6G harddisk. > Use debootstrap from your existing system. Make a grub-disk (floppy, so > your laptop can boot it) so that you can set up your boot loader if > something happens. Even floppy boot is not available. > > See the installation manual for installing from an existing unix system. > > Doug. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
resize the partition with /
Hi all, I have a problem with an old desktop running etch. Before it was running XP + etch dual boot. But recently I have deleted the whole XP partition. Now the problem is I started running out of space for the etch. I want to resize the partition so that I can install more programs and stuff like that. The current partition is like hda1 - 5G (before running XP) hda2 - 1G ( etch is living here) So I'd like to resize hda2 but I can't as it said I need to unmount hda2 before resizing. People suggest using a live CD but it's not possible with my old laptop (I didn't even install etch using CD, I can only install etch via goodbyemicrosoft.com). USB boot is also not available. Any suggestion would be welcome. What I want to do is to be able to apt-get upgrade stuff as right now I have only <5Mb of space in hda2. Thanks a lot! Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: efficiency of windows managers
On 9/28/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote: > [snip] > > > > Yeah, will do if I have the time. But at the moment I'm very happy > > with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :) > > What's the benefit of transparency? Not much. And I'm not saying xfce4.4 is good only because of the transparency. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: efficiency of windows managers
On 9/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 04:41:12PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > > > > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker > > > > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it > > > > certainly is fast for initialization. But after that when around > > > > 10-15 windows are opened and distributed in different workspaces, I > > > > found moving around different workspaces and windows pretty slow (I > > > > compared with KDE which I usually use.) and thus I still decided to > > > > stick with KDE for the moment. Maybe the comparison is not fair as > > > > KDE definitely needs longer time to initialize. But my question is, > > > > is there a reason for that? > > > > > > > > Manu > > > You might need more RAM > > > > I agree. :) But I'm still confused as to why KDE can outperform (at > > least up to my experience) a supposedly light weight wm (maybe > > windowmaker is not lightweight enough, will try fluxbox later) on the > > same machine. Is that because of something like memory management or > > something like that? > > its probably got more to do with memory *use* than management. By that > I mean, you may end up wasting memory by using kde apps within a > different wm. The kde apps will load up whole bunches of kde libs in > order to function in addition to the libs used by whatever wm you're > using. You haven't said what your 10-15 windows are doing, so I'm only > guessing. Also, it what ways does kde perform better than windowmaker? > is it in overall response of the system? screen drawing? window > dragging? just switching from one app to another within the same > workspace? More windows are pretty standard, like gaim, iceweasel, icedove, xchat, amule, etc. The thing happened is that whenever I need to move to a workspace with more than 3 windows already there, it takes seconds to "reload" and always give me a window on top which is not previous on the top. I don't know why but it never happened in KDE or Xfce. > > > > > The reason I'm asking is that I want to change because before I > > thought I can improve the efficiency by using a more lightweight wm > > but it turns out it's not true in my case. So maybe as long as the > > memory is enough to use KDE (or GNOME), KDE can be faster than those > > lightweight wm because they use more memory? > > you should do some more comprehensive testing to see if you can figure > out what's going on. keep an eye on a top instance or two and sort > them by processor usage and memory usage. That will give some > insight. Yeah, will do if I have the time. But at the moment I'm very happy with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: efficiency of windows managers
On 9/27/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different > > windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker > > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it > > certainly is fast for initialization. But after that when around > > 10-15 windows are opened and distributed in different workspaces, I > > found moving around different workspaces and windows pretty slow (I > > compared with KDE which I usually use.) and thus I still decided to > > stick with KDE for the moment. Maybe the comparison is not fair as > > KDE definitely needs longer time to initialize. But my question is, > > is there a reason for that? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Manu > You might need more RAM > > regards Andy :-) I agree. :) But I'm still confused as to why KDE can outperform (at least up to my experience) a supposedly light weight wm (maybe windowmaker is not lightweight enough, will try fluxbox later) on the same machine. Is that because of something like memory management or something like that? The reason I'm asking is that I want to change because before I thought I can improve the efficiency by using a more lightweight wm but it turns out it's not true in my case. So maybe as long as the memory is enough to use KDE (or GNOME), KDE can be faster than those lightweight wm because they use more memory? Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
efficiency of windows managers
Hi all, I have a general question which I got when trying out different windows managers/desktop environments. When I try to use windowmaker (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it certainly is fast for initialization. But after that when around 10-15 windows are opened and distributed in different workspaces, I found moving around different workspaces and windows pretty slow (I compared with KDE which I usually use.) and thus I still decided to stick with KDE for the moment. Maybe the comparison is not fair as KDE definitely needs longer time to initialize. But my question is, is there a reason for that? Thanks. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ekiga
Hi all, After a dist-upgrade (I'm using sid), ekiga can't be installed anymore. Is there any way to install it in sid? Thanks! Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:46:13 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > > > On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > > > > > On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > > > > > > > I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in
> > > > > > > > recovery
> > > > > > > > mode but it didn't have anything with "(EE)" or "(WW)".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h
> > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > video driver that you use for Xorg.
>
> [...]
>
> > > > > lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video'
> > > >
> > > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
> > > > Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
> > > > 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
> > > > Graphics Device (rev 02)
> > >
> > > I have the exact same hardware on my laptop and I don't have any
> > > problems with shutting down or restarting X.
> > >
> > > > > awk '/Section "(Device|Monitor)"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> > > >
> > > > Section "Device"
> > > > Identifier "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
> > > > Graphics Device"
> > > > Driver "i810"
> > > > BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
> > >
> > > I use "intel" instead of "i810". This should not matter if you have the
> > > newest version of the driver since the "i810" is only a legacy symlink
> > > nowadays which points to the "intel" module. What is your output for:
> > >
> > > dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-{intel,i810} | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
> >
> > ii xserver-xorg-video-i810 2:2.1.0-2
> > ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.1.0-2
I'm hoping in the next update I won't have the same problem. :)
>
> I have slightly newer versions right now since I track Sid, but I don't
> recall any problems in the recent past.
>
> > > > > > > Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > time of the crashes/freezes?
> > > > > > I don't think so.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if
> > > > > something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop
> > > > > the
> > > > > graphical login manager with
> > > > >
> > > > > invoke-rc.d gdm stop
> > > >
> > > > Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the
> > > > above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything.
> > >
> > > This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode
> > > switching to me. (Did you also try this with the "vesa" driver?) If you
> > > are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with
> > > CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)?
> >
> > I tried vesa, but the screen is not very stable and I can logoff once
> > and then when I login again, I couldn't log off like I was using i810.
>
> I would still like to know whether your system hangs if you try to
> switch to a terminal without shutting down gdm.
If I have a graphical login prompt and press CTRL + ALT + Back I can
go to a text mode login prompt but immediately I will go back to the
graphical login prompt.
> > > Unless you can find a related message in either the syslog or the xorg
> > > log I don't know how to track this down. The only other thing I can
> > > think of right now is having a look at your loaded modules; what is
> > > your output for
> > >
> > > lsmod | egrep 'i(810|830|915)|drm|agp|i2c'
> > >
> > i915 21280 3
> > drm73908 4 i915
> > intel_agp 23004 1
> > agpgart32168 3 drm,intel_agp
>
> That looks OK to me. (I have compiled drm, intel_agp and agpgart into my
> kernel, but that should not make a difference.) You do not seem to have
> any i2c-related modules loaded. I am not sure if this is relevant, but
> you do have these somewhat ominous DVOI2C errors in your xorg log. Does
> your system have an SMBus? Post the output of
>
> lspci | egrep -i 'i2c|smb'
No output for this one.
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Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 22:38:27 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > > > On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > > > > > I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery
> > > > > > mode but it didn't have anything with "(EE)" or "(WW)".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now.
> > > > >
> > > > > That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the
> > > > > video driver that you use for Xorg.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Any more suggestion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you try the "vesa" driver already? (as I suggested earlier)
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there.
> > > >
> > > > > Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use?
> > > >
> > > > I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until
> > > > an update months ago.
> > >
> > > Which Intel card is it? How is the driver configured? Are there any
> > > warnings or errors in xorg's log? Run the following commands and post
> > > the output:
> > >
> > > lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video'
> >
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
> > Graphics Device (rev 02)
> > 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
> > Graphics Device (rev 02)
>
> I have the exact same hardware on my laptop and I don't have any
> problems with shutting down or restarting X.
>
> > > awk '/Section "(Device|Monitor)"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
> > Graphics Device"
> > Driver "i810"
> > BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
>
> I use "intel" instead of "i810". This should not matter if you have the
> newest version of the driver since the "i810" is only a legacy symlink
> nowadays which points to the "intel" module. What is your output for:
>
> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-{intel,i810} | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
ii xserver-xorg-video-i810 2:2.1.0-2
ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.1.0-2
>
> > > > > Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the
> > > > > time of the crashes/freezes?
> > > > I don't think so.
> > >
> > > I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if
> > > something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the
> > > graphical login manager with
> > >
> > > invoke-rc.d gdm stop
> >
> > Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the
> > above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything.
>
> This still looks like a crash of the graphics driver during mode
> switching to me. (Did you also try this with the "vesa" driver?) If you
> are at the graphical login screen, can you switch to a terminal with
> CTRL + ALT + F1 (or F2, ..., F6)?
>
I tried vesa, but the screen is not very stable and I can logoff once
and then when I login again, I couldn't log off like I was using i810.
> Unless you can find a related message in either the syslog or the xorg
> log I don't know how to track this down. The only other thing I can
> think of right now is having a look at your loaded modules; what is
> your output for
>
> lsmod | egrep 'i(810|830|915)|drm|agp|i2c'
>
> ?
i915 21280 3
drm73908 4 i915
intel_agp 23004 1
agpgart32168 3 drm,intel_agp
Manu
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Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/23/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:25:47 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > > > I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery > > > > mode but it didn't have anything with "(EE)" or "(WW)". > > > > > > > > And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. > > > > > > That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the > > > video driver that you use for Xorg. > > > > > > > Any more suggestion? > > > > > > Did you try the "vesa" driver already? (as I suggested earlier) > > > > Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. > > > > > > > > Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? > > > > > > > I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until > > an update months ago. > > Which Intel card is it? How is the driver configured? Are there any > warnings or errors in xorg's log? Run the following commands and post > the output: > > lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display|video' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) > > awk '/Section "(Device|Monitor)"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" Driver "i810" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" EndSection > > egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" does not exist. (WW) Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType. (EE) intel(0): detecting sil164 (EE) intel(0): Unable to read from DVOI2C_E Slave 112. (WW) intel(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 10 pages failed (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32 > > X -version X Window System Version 1.3.0 Release Date: 19 April 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12) Current Operating System: Linux debian 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Jul 11 03:53:02 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 09 August 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present > > > > Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the > > > time of the crashes/freezes? > > I don't think so. > > I think the next thing to try is if X blocks the shutdown or if > something else in runlevel 2 is responsible. Shut down X and/or stop the > graphical login manager with > > invoke-rc.d gdm stop Maybe a more detailed way to do so is helpful to me for if I run the above command the screen goes black and I lose control of everything. Thanks a lot!! \ Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
On 8/21/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ You should leave some context in your messages, especially if you are > reviving a thread which has been inactive for almost a month; > otherwise people might mistake you for one of those "special" posters > from debianhelp.org... ] will remember to do that next time! > On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:29:53 -0400, Manu Hack wrote: > > I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery > > mode but it didn't have anything with "(EE)" or "(WW)". > > > > And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. > > That suggests to me that the shutdown problem might be related to the > video driver that you use for Xorg. > > > Any more suggestion? > > Did you try the "vesa" driver already? (as I suggested earlier) Yes, it turns out that similar problem is still there. > > Which video card do you have and which driver do you normally use? > I have been using i810 for a while and before it had no problem until an update months ago. > Also, are there any interesting entries in /var/log/syslog around the > time of the crashes/freezes? I don't think so. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly
I finally have the chance to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log in recovery mode but it didn't have anything with "(EE)" or "(WW)". And in recovery mode, I can shutdown properly with shutdown -h now. Any more suggestion? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cannot logoff/shutdown properly
Hi all, I'm running lenny. recently after upgrade to 2.6.21, I found that I couldn't logoff/shutdown properly from KDE/GNOME/windowmaker. By properly I mean whenever I choose logoff, usually KDM/GDM can take over and give me a login prompt but now it just goes blank and nothing can be done (including alt control back or F1) but pressing the power button to turn it off. What could go wrong? Thank a lot. Let me know what further information you need to investigate the issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't get the login window to appear after leaving machine...
On 7/21/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 11:27:32AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I am running ADM64 Debian Etch 4.0 r(0) on a AMD 3200 box. Everything is > OK, except that on several occasions I have noticed that if I leave the > machine for a good while until the screen goes dead and then tap on the > mouse several times or tap on the keyboard or both repeatedly I can't get > the machine to respond at all. I am running lenny and also had the same problem sometime ago after a update of xorg and it was solved after another update of xorg a week later. I don't know what went wrong but now it is fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: URGENT: my gnome desktop is dead
On 7/16/07, Dot Deb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By the way what is a stable functional alternative to gnome, excluding kde? You may want to try xfce. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xorg doesnt work suddenly
Hi all, I have been running etch for a while without problems. But suddenly my xorg doesn't work. I have a backup of working xorg.conf but it doesn't work now. I remember I have an update days ago including xorg. I'm not sure if that is the problem. I also ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again but with no luck. I used my old xorg.conf file with the following /var/log/Xorg.0.log X Window System Version 7.1.1 Release Date: 12 May 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 Build Operating System: UNKNOWN Current Operating System: Linux debian 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 07 March 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Mar 25 04:22:46 2007 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" (**) |-->Screen "screen1" (1) (**) | |-->Monitor "monitor1" (**) | |-->Device "device1" (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" (**) |-->Input Device "Synaptics Touchpad" (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType (==) RgbPath set to "/etc/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (**) Option "Xinerama" "true" (**) Xinerama: enabled (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 1.0 X.Org XInput driver : 0.6 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 (--) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,3580 card 1179,0001 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 8086,3584 card 1179,0001 rev 02 class 08,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 8086,3585 card 1179,0001 rev 02 class 08,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,3582 card 1179,0033 rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 8086,3582 card 1179,0033 rev 02 class 03,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24c2 card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24c4 card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24c7 card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24cd card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card , rev 83 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24cc card , rev 03 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24ca card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 1179,0412 rev 03 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,24c6 card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 07,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:05:0: chip 8086,4220 card 8086,2741 rev 05 class 02,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:07:0: chip 104c,8026 card 1179,0001 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:08:0: chip 8086,103d card 1179,0001 rev 83 class 02,00,00 hdr
Re: ALT key doesn't work as before
On 2/18/07, Manu Hack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/18/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try running gnome-keybinding-properties and set alt to open the menu. That should work for controlling all GTK apps in KDE, hopefully (I'm not 100% sure on this, I'm a GNOME user myself). Still no luck on this one. When I run gnome-keybinding-properties, all the fonts of gtk applications change. Maybe there is something that was not sourced when I started X? Would like to add some more information on the problem. If I use ssh to run gvim of a remote machine, I can use the alt mapping but not on the gvim on my machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALT key doesn't work as before
On 2/18/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try running gnome-keybinding-properties and set alt to open the menu. That should work for controlling all GTK apps in KDE, hopefully (I'm not 100% sure on this, I'm a GNOME user myself). Still no luck on this one. When I run gnome-keybinding-properties, all the fonts of gtk applications change. Maybe there is something that was not sourced when I started X? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALT key doesn't work as before
On 2/18/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions""altwin:metawin" EndSection Thanks a lot. I just added the final option in my xorg.conf but still no luck on my problem. Just to say some thing more on my problem. My alt does work on kde-type of application but not in gtk application. So maybe something is going on in between the two. Even I run window maker, alt key does not work on gvim. Anyway, thanks for your prompt reply and I actually solved another problem on my touchpad as I browse through xorg.conf. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALT key doesn't work as before
On 2/18/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most likely this is Xorg related. Try running: dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Make sure you choose the correct keyboard settings, for example: altwin:metawin After you finish have it create a new Xorg.conf file and then restart X. Joe I tried to reconfigure but I would like to know how to add the option altwin:metawin? After reconfiguring, it still could fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALT key doesn't work as before
Now I'm using KDE 3.5.5 on etch. Before my ALT key works as to I can go to the menu when I press alt. But now, I can only go to the menu in KDE application. For firefox, gvim, etc. it doesn't work. The main problem is that it blocks my alt key mapping in gvim. I have checked kcontrol and alter some options but none of them could fix it. Hope someone could give me a hand. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: professional data recovery services for ex3 filesystem
On 2/12/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The laptop used to work fine (no errors in the log files, no grinding noises). One fine day when it was moved from one place to another and then it stopped booting. The BIOS does not even recognize the hard drive. The hard drive does not spin. I believe that the problem could be a bad controller or a bad motor. So it needs to be taken into a clean room to get the data out. I have a Toshiba laptop and my HDD one day produced a big noise. Then I no longer can boot it up. So I bought a new HDD but the next day I tried the old one again, it just worked as usual (only slower) and the noise went away. Maybe the HDD needs to take a day off. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim filetype detection (was Re: Vim colour syntax)
I noticed that vim-latexsuite no longer worked with vim 7.x whereas it was working with vim 6.x. Filed a bug against vim-latexsuite but no reply. yes, I reported the F5 problem and maybe they are working on it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CPU fan control
I've installed etch on my laptop. During the time I used Windows, I feel the CPU temperature is lower. And now the CPU fan works when the CPU temperature is higher than 70C and stops (or runs at a lower speed) when it's 55C or lower. I'd like to know if it's possible to adjust the threshold temperature like making it run faster well below 70C. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
