Re: xorg
Using these packages with the radeon driver; works smoothly, video overlay and radeon dual-head support (mergedfb) working fine.. mb On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 22:35 +0200, cancer wrote: has anybody tried out these xorg packages?: deb http://debian.linux-systeme.com unstable main deb-src http://debian.linux-systeme.com unstable main -- Rise Again! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian sid and risk management
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:05 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: [snip] Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. I agree with this, with the caveat that you should already be experienced with Debian before you try to do it seriously. It will run flawlessly most of the time, but eventually an upgrade, or something you try to do (e.g. installing from another unstable repository) will probably require some maintenance. With that said, what I usually do for my servers is do an update every two weeks, storing the list of packages that WOULD be upgraded in a text file. Then when I do my next update, I compare that list vs the list of two weeks ago and only install the packages that HAVEN'T changed. This gives me a selection of two week old packages that MOST LIKELY work (since critical bugs are usually fixed within two weeks). That's not a bad idea; I would almost consider doing that on my desktops (although atm testing/sarge is pretty up to date on the user visible stuff, e.g. GNOME). FWIW: on my servers, I run a mix of testing/unstable; to minimize unforeseen downtime I only upgrade every 3-6 months (and keep my ear to the ground for security issues in the applications we run, in case I might need to do it sooner). mb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org ----- Xfree
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 17:08 +, Thomas Adam wrote: --- Johan Kullstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for it. Look up debian and ibm thinkpad t42 2378fvu sometime. I find it more interesting that because of the Xorg/XFree86 issue, more and more people are saying that they *do* need Xorg, just because it is available. I bet you, you'd have made do quite happily with XFree86. :P For the record, this is not always true, and is somewhat exacerbated by the fact that (IIRC) Debian must stick with the last DFSG-compatible release of XFree86. I have (an admittedly bleeding edge) system with a PCIE card that XFree86 (at least the version in Sid) does not support in any way. I am an edge case for now. :) (Don't misinterpret me; I am *not* suggesting that x.org can or should be in Sarge..) At the time, I installed x.org from source; the post (and accompanying comments) below has some helpful advice about how to do this on Debian. http://incubator.vislab.usyd.edu.au/roller/page/Steve/20040909#installing_a_non_intrusive_x I haven't checked apt-get.org (in a few months, at least).. you might have some luck there.. -- Thomas Adam = The Linux Weekend Mechanic -- http://linuxgazette.net TAG Editor -- http://linuxgazette.net shrug We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :) -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com mb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN from win to Linux server: PPTP or OpenVPN or..?
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 17:17 +, Joao Clemente wrote: So, anyone advicing PPTP over OpenVPN? If so, wich server? Poptop? Thanks Joao Clemente I use Poptop in several capacities on a mostly Windows-based network; to get it working (with encryption) you'll need the pptpd package (for poptop itself), the kernel-patch-mppe package (for mppe encryption), and kernel source to patch and build your own kernel. One word of warning: XP seems to have some braindead bugs concerning PPTP and accessing SMB shares, YMMV; 2000 works great though.. mb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCIe and Linux kernel
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:34 -0400, Colin wrote: Matt Barry wrote: On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:51 +0100, Lee Redmayne wrote: I've just got a lovely new beastie which has a PCI-Express Asus Radeon X600 in it... Running Sarge 2.6.8-1.i386 and XF86 4.3.0.1, P4 530, 512MB, 80GB SATA drive etc etc.. I had a similar experience when I got my shiny new Asus X800 XT.. ATI's official drivers (proprietary) do not yet support their PCIE products; neither does XFree86 (as far as I was able to tell). Does the linux kernel support PCI Express well (in general)? There certainly isn't a huge array of products (or people who own them) yet, but it doesn't seem much support is really necessary. Based on what I've read of the PCIE architecture, the interface is compatible. The kernel does have support for using the MMCONFIG access mode, as of 2.6.5 IIRC. I imagine the big difference will be in making 3d drivers work... All I can really say is that I haven't had any problems yet... performance is great, no crashes/quirks that I've noticed.. mb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radeon X600
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:51 +0100, Lee Redmayne wrote: I've just got a lovely new beastie which has a PCI-Express Asus Radeon X600 in it... Running Sarge 2.6.8-1.i386 and XF86 4.3.0.1, P4 530, 512MB, 80GB SATA drive etc etc.. I had a similar experience when I got my shiny new Asus X800 XT.. ATI's official drivers (proprietary) do not yet support their PCIE products; neither does XFree86 (as far as I was able to tell). My solution was to install x.org from source; this may work for you as well (no 3d support, but 2d works quite well). You can find a reasonable description of how to do this non-intrusively (into /usr/local) at this site: http://incubator.vislab.usyd.edu.au/roller/page/Steve?catname=Debian There are some comments below (myself and others) on how to integrate it with Debian (ie. make things like gdm/startx work seamlessly). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
