Re: Unable to configure UPS options
On 1/25/15, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:43:56 -0600 Melvin Call melvincall...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have two computers, both running Wheezy and the XFCE4 Desktop. Both have attached UPS devices, and lsusb shows the UPS attached to each machine. Yet, on one I have options to configure actions to take when on battery, and on the other I have no On Battery tab. I enabled the battery monitor plug-in in the notification area on both, and the problematic one shows only to be online (no battery present). I am looking for help to enable the battery option on the second machine so when the power goes off the system will shutdown or suspend to RAM at my choosing. I have compared installed packages between the two and see nothing significant. What would my next step be, please? Typically, UPSes don't appear as batteries. You probably want to install something like NUT (network-ups-tools) or APCUPSd (which also works with non-APC UPSes). These will monitor the UPS and notify you (typically by email, but there are graphical monitors available for NUT. The daemon will also initiate a controlled shutdown once the battery level becomes critical. I'm not aware of any technical reason why UPSes couldn't be connected into the ACPI system, I just don't think anyone's ever done it. Heh! Not sure why NUT never crossed my mind. I've done it on servers, but on the working system that battery option has always been there and it works when the power goes out (system shuts down gracefully). If you are correct, then that is not the working system. Anyhow, NUT is easy so I'll try that route. mrr, if you have pointers to developing udev rules, I've had a need for that knowledge for other reasons in the past so shoot me some pointers if you get time. Thanks everyone! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadgqn55zhrz_qzgbjahnysm8kxcrc37yhpd8yuu+ut7n8cx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Unable to configure UPS options
On 1/24/15, mrr mire...@free.fr wrote: On 24/01/2015 03:50, Melvin Call wrote: Hello, I have two computers, both running Wheezy and the XFCE4 Desktop. Both have attached UPS devices, and lsusb shows the UPS attached to each machine. Yet, on one I have options to configure actions to take when on battery, and on the other I have no On Battery tab. I enabled the battery monitor plug-in in the notification area on both, and the problematic one shows only to be online (no battery present). I am looking for help to enable the battery option on the second machine so when the power goes off the system will shutdown or suspend to RAM at my choosing. I have compared installed packages between the two and see nothing significant. What would my next step be, please? Regards, Melvin Hi Melvin, You can use: $ acpi --battery to get battery information. You can create a udev rule to trigger (for example) a suspend to RAM (/usr/sbin/pm-suspend) when the battery is unplugged or below a limit. I can lead you to information about that if you are interested. Apart form this I have no clue about the xfce widget (I'm not on a laptop) but you could try some of the xfce4-power-* commands: $ xfce4-power-information $ xfce4-power-manager $ xfce4-power-manager-settings And of course, continue to investigate differences (maybe in /etc or in ~/.local) between your 2 computers, that's a good idea! Cheers, -- mrr Thanks for the reply mrr. And I would welcome pointers to developing udev rules. I dabbled with that a while back, but never really did much with it. In this case it may be what I need. I thought you had hit the nail on the head when I tried the acpi command, but the same command on the working system shows the same output: no-battery:~]$ acpi --battery No support for device type: power_supply and with-battery:~]$ acpi --battery No support for device type: power_supply So I tried acpi -V, but there is no real difference: no-battery:~]$ acpi -V No support for device type: power_supply No support for device type: power_supply Cooling 0: intel_powerclamp no state information available Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 3: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 4: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 5: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 6: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 7: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 8: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 9: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 10: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 11: Processor 0 of 0 Cooling 12: Processor 0 of 0 and with-battery:~]$ acpi -V No support for device type: power_supply No support for device type: power_supply Thermal 0: ok, 40.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 75.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 1 switches to mode passive at temperature 73.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 2 switches to mode active at temperature 73.0 degrees C Cooling 0: Processor 0 of 3 Cooling 1: Fan 1 of 1 I don't see anything in /etc or ~/.local that jumps out at me. The only thing I found that was definitely different was ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml does not have the battery setting in it on the non-working system, but since that file seems to reflect the settings of xfce4-power-manager-settings I would expect that to be the case. So yeah, if you have some udev rule writing help that you can point me to, I will try that avenue. Thanks! Melvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadgqn54fbkttasfrdl0eem64oeufuxyk+5qpgqsvnd7f0l1...@mail.gmail.com
Unable to configure UPS options
Hello, I have two computers, both running Wheezy and the XFCE4 Desktop. Both have attached UPS devices, and lsusb shows the UPS attached to each machine. Yet, on one I have options to configure actions to take when on battery, and on the other I have no On Battery tab. I enabled the battery monitor plug-in in the notification area on both, and the problematic one shows only to be online (no battery present). I am looking for help to enable the battery option on the second machine so when the power goes off the system will shutdown or suspend to RAM at my choosing. I have compared installed packages between the two and see nothing significant. What would my next step be, please? Regards, Melvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadgqn55gkvhnsj7tvmmynqjbjix8fgoc73_kap5wzyp8ryq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: icedove configuration problem
The other alternative, especially if you find you're setting up Icedove regularly, is to configure your mail server properly: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Thunderbird/Autoconfiguration#Configuration_server_at_ISP properly? are you joking? As far as I can see properly means according to the wishes of mozilla... and you want that every guy in charge of the internet services of a company will waste his time to configure the mail servers in order to fullfill: The goal of autoconfiguration is to make it very easy for users to configure the connection of Thunderbird to their email servers. It seems to be funny or stupid! I agree. As a user I should not have to suffer through my client application engaging in unwanted behavior that ultimately fails more often than not because someone beyond my span of control didn't do something the developers of the application felt should have been done. On top of that, any sane user should consider an application that initiates communication with external sources, without permission, as a virus. Do not violate my privacy by calling home without giving me the courtesy of allowing it or not. That's just plain rude. Is it so difficult to fill a few lines with the internet address of a mail server, name and login id? And if any user make a mistake? What is the problem? It doesn't work! Is it so dangerous! So called simplifications are often very complicated and become the hell! Microsoft is the best example: I know only a few people with a windows computer correctly configured and fullfilling the wishes of its user Excellent point. Several years ago I made the mistake of thinking that Microsoft certification would be an investment in my IT future. Completing the MCSE requirements only confirmed just how bad that OS really is, and a lot of the horror comes from their apps taking the position of knowing what you want and how to accomplish it better than you do. Just try setting up a DNS server on their server system and you will see what I mean. It can be done manually, but you have to be a magician to find any decent howto documentation. That's the Microsoft way, assume the user is incompetent. Mozilla seems to be headed in the same direction. That's just plain insulting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377193184.29421.46.camel@ubuntu1
Icedove Account Creation help
Hello list, I have a quick question regarding the version of Icedove included in Wheezy. When I go to set up an email account, the account creation steps have changed from earlier versions, and some type of wizard is run that tries to contact the server and automatically configure the account. I would like to continue manually configuring accounts without any help. Can anyone explain to me how to disable this automatic configuration feature? Thanks, Melvin
Re: Icedove Account Creation help
I forgot to mention that the instructions I found on the Mozilla support page (https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/manual-account-configuration) do not work, but I think I just figured it out, after trying for two days. Open the Account Settings dialog Select Add Mail Account under the Account Actions option list Enter the relevant information and click on Continue As soon as the Looking up configuration... message appears, click the Manual Config button. This stops the automatic set up and drops you to a screen that allows you to configure the parameters manually. Click the Create Account button. Sorry to bother everyone with this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371652389.14529.0.camel@ubuntu1
