RE: Secure CGI Implementation/SuEXEC
Bill, et al Just a note to say thank you and that I appreciate that you went to extra lengths to help me out in this. I have considered the options and have decided that I am going to go with a single CGI bin with one administrator (me); suEXEC disabled. I did attempt setting up suEXEC in both /home/user/public_html and /var/www/ but it was late and it was giving me grief and I decided to take a hint. I may give this a shot again when I am more comfortable with Linux...meanwhile this is an option where I do not need to worry about user's passwords falling into the wrong hands. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SuEXEC and CGI to two VirtualHosts
Bill, Thanks again for your assistance and ideas on this. The more I get into this the more confusing it becomes! If I understand you correctly, to use SuEXEC I am going to have to either 1. completely change the way I wanted to set up my web directory (ies), or 2. figure out how to configure SuEXEC prior to compiling Apache and compile it from source myself. How can Debian leave us in such a fix?...where it is clear that we can set up the Apache document root any way we want and it is absolutely silent on the effects changes will have on using SuEXEC? (I have looked through the docs installed with Apache and there is virtually (ahum) nothing on SuEXEC.) If they thought it worth while to include in the build, then it should have been worth some documentation...and I mean more than set it up according to the defaults and rules and it might work. (Even that, put in terms of a warning, would have saved me a few weeks of aggrivation for no good whatsoever.) For the record, in order to demonstrate to myself that I did not myself insert some hairbrained configuration data in the SuEXEC setup, I uninstalled and re-installed Apache. There is no indication at all during setup that SuEXEC is being installed (and it is)...the curious thing is that the re-install picked up much (not all) of my old configuration (before deleting it...thank goodness I had a backup)(but not the new document root -- why doesn't the installation include the ability to specify the document root in the case where SuEXEC is being installed automatically, since SuEXEC seems to be so tightly bound to the installation configuration)? The error message I am now getting from SuEXEC log is: error (a different level of error) command not in docroot. Time for some more thought. Sidebar: I contrast this to a PHP/MySQL setup I also have where there is no grief like this at all! Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SuEXEC and CGI to two VirtualHosts
Bill, Again thanks. Mike, I think you have to admit your troubles are a result of your inexperience with this setup. Absolutely, and I see your point about the number of other modules (but do any of them have this particular sort of inability to work if the default setup isn't used? SuEXEC seems unique in this regard). And in addition to inexperience, I have an inborn stubborn trait -- I want my directories where I want them! haha. (This is a selling point of UNIX systems, that is that the directory structure is logical...meaning you can order it in a way that makes sense to you.) Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bill Moseley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:05 AM To: Michael Olds Cc: Debian-User Subject: RE: SuEXEC and CGI to two VirtualHosts On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Michael Olds wrote: If I understand you correctly, to use SuEXEC I am going to have to either 1. completely change the way I wanted to set up my web directory (ies), or 2. figure out how to configure SuEXEC prior to compiling Apache and compile it from source myself. How can Debian leave us in such a fix? How can the debian maintainer know where you want install things? The SuEXEC docs say: suEXEC Points Of Interest Hierarchy limitations For security and efficiency reasons, all suexec requests must remain within either a top-level document root for virtual host requests, or one top-level personal document root for userdir requests. For example, if you have four VirtualHosts configured, you would need to structure all of your VHosts' document roots off of one main Apache document hierarchy to take advantage of suEXEC for VirtualHosts. (Example forthcoming.) It's not the Debian package that's causing that restriction. ...where it is clear that we can set up the Apache document root any way we want and it is absolutely silent on the effects changes will have on using SuEXEC? (I have looked through the docs installed with Apache and there is virtually (ahum) nothing on SuEXEC.) That's true, but look at how many module options there are in the default httpd.conf -- there's no way to list all the details. Think about mod_perl's potential complex issues. SuEXEC is typically used by ISPs and other experienced users -- and is also typically used for ~user type directories which is how the debian package has it. You have to keep in mind that the debian package is basically the Apache defaults, plus setup in a standard way to work for a wide group of users. Most people just use the default config and it works great. Once you start changing things without have a good knowledge of Apache then you are in for a frustrating time. It's not easy until you do spend those frustrating weeks. For the record, in order to demonstrate to myself that I did not myself insert some hairbrained configuration data in the SuEXEC setup, I uninstalled and re-installed Apache. There is no indication at all during setup that SuEXEC is being installed (and it is) It's just another Apache module. Did it tell you that mod_cgi was being installed? It's a package, and contains a lot of modules. why doesn't the installation include the ability to specify the document root in the case where SuEXEC is being installed automatically, since SuEXEC seems to be so tightly bound to the installation configuration)? Because it's not a configuration parameter -- it's part of the suexec wrapper program and it's compiled in. When you install a Debian package you are getting a binary verison. It's a package deal. The error message I am now getting from SuEXEC log is: error (a different level of error) command not in docroot. Google. That means you are trying to run a suexec script in a place that's not in docroot specified at suexec compile time. --suexec-docroot=DIR Define as the DocumentRoot set for Apache. This will be the only hierarchy (aside from UserDirs) that can be used for suEXEC behavior. The default directory is the --datadir value with the suffix /htdocs, e.g. if you configure with --datadir=/home/apache the directory /home/apache/htdocs is used as document root for the suEXEC wrapper. I tried to explain that in my last message. Time for some more thought. I posted a working httpd.conf. Why not just move your directories? Or you can build Apache from source. That's more reading -- but it's not that hard (no it's totally confusing until you figure it out!). Sidebar: I contrast this to a PHP/MySQL setup I also have where there is no grief like this at all! Mike, I think you have to admit your troubles are a result of your inexperience with this setup. The Debian package works perfectly for most people. When you decide to change that default config you had better know what you are doing, or else face that kind of grief. Seems like you can be up and running by a couple of mv commands. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE
SuEXEC and CGI to two VirtualHosts
I believe I have traced my problem in setting up CGI bins on two VirtualHosts to the fact that SuEXEC is incorrectly configured (it is enabled and I get suexec: enabled; valid wrapper /usr/lib/apache/suexec.) The error I get is: cannot get docroot information /var/www (the Debian Apache default docroot). I do not know how I got SuEXEC on there in the first place! Does this come as part of the Debian package? I could disable suEXEC, but in fact it does look like the tool I need (I need for users to be able to load, unload, and modify cgi-scripts via sftp). My problem is not knowing how I can reconfigure SuEXEC. The documentation I have read says that it needs to be recompiled with apache. But I did not compile apache from sources to begin with. Hunt's book says: The suEXEC tool is very easy to set up using the APACI installation script. Again, this is a tool for use in compiling from source. Before I uninstall Apache and reinstall the package just to see if it (or some other configuration tool) is included...does anyone know? Or know a better way? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache-ssl .htaccess files
1. Create .htaccess file in the directory to be protected. AuthUserFile /etc/apache/htusers AuthName This Directory Requires Authentication by A Valid User AuthType Basic require valid-user order deny,allow allow from all CHMOD: 755 Note: This file can contain adjustments for options to an Apache Directive or certain Apache Directives themselves. 2. Create etc/apache/htusers # cd /etc/apache # htpasswd -c /etc/apache/htusers/htusers_id username1 Password Password CHMOD: 644 hr 3. Create additional users. After setting the first user: htpasswd /etc/apache/htusers/htusers NewUsersName Password Password Note: More than one .htaccess file can accesess this file. hr 4. Create sub-groups of users hr 5. Delete users delete the whole line to remove a user. hr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Secure CGI Implementation
If the cgi-bin is placed outside the DocumentRoot and a script creates an html page to be served to the public, how does this work? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Secure CGI Implementation
Q: If the cgi-bin is placed outside the DocumentRoot and a script creates an html page to be served to the public, how does this work? A: Just fine. You can map your web space any way you like. Actually, Bill, 'Just Fine is just fine if it works...I havn't quite got it up and running yet.' I am trying to ask short 'n sweet questions to the point (not my natural style, which usually includes numerous subordinate clauses, etc...you understand...)...I wouldn't object to an explanation of the process. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Secure CGI Implementation
This is what I would like to set up because I would like to offer server
space to one user aside from myself that I trust, and who will need to make
modifications to his scripts via SFTP (using SSH2); but I would like to be
protected in the event of his user name and password being discovered, and
in the event of him making a mistake in his setups.
Directory Structure, Users and Groups, and Permissions
apache = apache deamon
admingroup = {me}
/www
/users {Server Document Root} {apache:rwx admingrp:rw: w:--}
/usr1/logs {apache:rwx usr1:rw: w:--}
/usr1/public_html {VirtualHost1 DocumentRoot} {usr1:rwx usr1:rw:
w:--}
/directory/*.htm{usr1:rwx usr1:rw: w:--}
/usr1/cgi-bin {usr1:rwx usr1:rw: w:--}
/directory {usr1:rwx usr1:rw: w:--}
/*.cgi {usr1:rwx usr1:rw: w:--}
/directory
/usr2/logs
/usr2/public_html {VirtualHost2 DocumentRoot}
/usr2/cgi-bin
httpd.conf
Global Server Settings
DocumentRoot /www/users
Directory /www/users
Options ExecCGI
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
No Script Alias or Directory /cgi-bin containers.
VirtualHost containers
NameVirtualHost 000etc
VirtualHost 000etc
UseCanonicalName off
ServerName www.domain1.com
ServerAlias domain1.com *.domain1.com domain1
DocumentRoot /www/users/usr1/public_html
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/users/usr1/cgi-bin/
ErrorLog /www/users/usr1/log/www.domain1.com-error.log
CustomLog /www/users/usr1/log/www.domain1.com-access.log combined
Directory /www/users/usr1/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
/VirtualHost2
VirtualHost 000etc
UseCanonicalName off
ServerName www.domain2.com
ServerAlias domain2.com *.domain2.com domain2
DocumentRoot /www/users/usr2/public_html
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/users/usr2/cgi-bin/
ErrorLog /www/users/usr2/log/www.domain2.com-error.log
CustomLog /www/users/usr2/log/www.domain2.com-access.log combined
Directory /www/users/usr2/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
/VirtualHost2
If necessary, this way I can change one user's cgi-bin to cgi-local, or
cgi-1 although this still does not make good sense to me and does not fit
in with what I see or what is given as examples in the tutorials out there
(I would like to know how my host for BuddhaDust has been able to give me
cgi-local under my document root with me as owner and user...I will ask
next chance I get).
This nearly puts me back at my original configuration with an additional
layer /users/ above the Main Server Document Root and it places the user's
cgi-bin beside, not under their VirtualHost DocumentRoot. If this does not
look right I would VERY MUCH appreciate anyone who would take the time to
change the setups I have here to actually show me by example what should
work. Theoretical explanations just are not getting through to me.
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
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RE: Secure CGI Implementation (PARTIAL SOLUTION)
Well you may not have know there was a problem. The dialog was why can't I get CGI working with two VirtualHosts. Then I went down the long trail of trying to set up CGI outside of the DocumentRoot. I moved everything down a notch and then also down a notch within each user's space. Absolutely nothing I did thereafter brought the slightest hint that CGI would ever work again. I cannot state with absolute certainty that I tried every single combination of user, group, and permissions and every variation on cofiguring the apache httpd.conf, or read every single document describing apache configuration for VirtualHosts but I believe I tried most of them, and read many. ZipNada. Bill Moseley's run through a number of possible layouts proved to have at least gotten me back to square one (one CGI bin working). He mentioned SuEXEC...and gave me a link to the Apache doc on the subject. I have SuEXEC installed, and apparently working fine as it is supposed to do. Except that it does not, for security and efficiency reasons, endquote, work below the first level of the Server's DocumentRoot, or the First Level under the VirtualHost DocumentRoot. So I moved everything back up a notch. Tomorrow I see if I can get the second CGI bin to work now that I have a small understanding the role of SuEXEC. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PHP/MySQL problem SOLVED
Three teeth-grinding days! -Original Message- From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 8:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PHP/MySQL problem SOLVED On 12/25/2002 6:54 PM, Michael Olds wrote: This problem solved. PHP was working fine, MySql was working fine, MySql support was built into the PHP Apache module ok, but the PHP MySql module was not installed. That gets me every time. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Script Alias Directive in Apache
Hello, Can someone tell me how to configure Appache to allow two separate users to have their own cgi-bins? I have read two books, the Apache docs and done some googling around and I can't find an example of how to set up two different virtual hosts with separate cgi-bins. Can anyone give me the layout? I have tried it: Like this (the comment distinctly uses the plural: Aliases) (or does this get chained? X = Y Y=Z?): ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/usr/public_html/cgi-local/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/usr2/public_html/cgi-local/ With: Directory /www/usr/public_html/cgi-local AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Directory /www/usr2/public_html/cgi-local AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory And under the Virtual Host directives: VirtualHost 000.000.000.000 UseCanonicalName off ServerName www.usr.com DocumentRoot /www/usr2/public_html ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/usr/public_html/cgi-local ServerAdmin usr@his /VirtualHousr2 VirtualHost 000.000.000.000 UseCanonicalName off ServerName www.usr2.com DocumentRoot /www/usr2/public_html ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/usr2/public_html/cgi-local ServerAdmin usr@his /VirtualHousr2 And both ways work but only for usr; anything asking for usr2/cgi-local gets sent to usr/cgi-local Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KVM locks tty
I have this switch also. The workaround that I have used is to be sure that all operations on the one computer are finished before going to the next, and I use the manual button, not the keyboard. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Lance Hoffmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KVM locks tty I have a kvm switch and every time I am in a console and switch back and forth it locks up the console. I have to be on tty8 or in X for the switch in work. In X, a switch to another computer and back will screw up the mouse and I have to go to a tty and back into X for the mouse to work properly. This is a Belkin box with no software. Anything I can try so that my tty's don't lock up? Lance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PHP/MySQL problem SOLVED
This problem solved. PHP was working fine, MySql was working fine, MySql support was built into the PHP Apache module ok, but the PHP MySql module was not installed. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:24 PM To: Debian-User Subject: PHP/MySQL problem OK I need a little help here, some insight into what may be going wrong. Setting up on a Debian Woody with Apache; trying to install a PHP BB script. I have checked in with the script folks but I need to work this from both ends. The PHP module is set up and working (I have uncommented the correct line in LoadModule and the two AddType lines -- does there need to be anything like a script alias for php? I still havn't figured out how scripts can be processed in the htdocs folder safely) as is MySQL (I'm not saying nothing can be wrong with the setup, only just that it is working as far as I can tell). I can access the database from the box using the username and password set up for the script. And I have run a couple of small php include scripts and done the ?php info thing and mysql was built in (but my book says there should be a section on MySql and there was none...is there something further that needs to be done to activate PHP/MySql interaction?). I have double checked the spelling, and given the root directory path properly. What happens is I can GET the first page of the Administration setup script for the BB and it appears to POST ok, and then all I get is a blank (white) screen that tells me its done. No error messages at all. I checked my Norton Firewall and refers are allowed...but not recommended while trying to set up PHP scripts...setting this up from my W2K box ftping to the Linux box. I uploaded the script files in ASCII and the permissions are correct. I have checked the on-line documentation and have looked at a couple of books but there is very little in any of them about how to set up (if that is the problem), most are on how to use. Any pointers, clues, hints, insights? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHP/MySQL problem
OK I need a little help here, some insight into what may be going wrong. Setting up on a Debian Woody with Apache; trying to install a PHP BB script. I have checked in with the script folks but I need to work this from both ends. The PHP module is set up and working (I have uncommented the correct line in LoadModule and the two AddType lines -- does there need to be anything like a script alias for php? I still havn't figured out how scripts can be processed in the htdocs folder safely) as is MySQL (I'm not saying nothing can be wrong with the setup, only just that it is working as far as I can tell). I can access the database from the box using the username and password set up for the script. And I have run a couple of small php include scripts and done the ?php info thing and mysql was built in (but my book says there should be a section on MySql and there was none...is there something further that needs to be done to activate PHP/MySql interaction?). I have double checked the spelling, and given the root directory path properly. What happens is I can GET the first page of the Administration setup script for the BB and it appears to POST ok, and then all I get is a blank (white) screen that tells me its done. No error messages at all. I checked my Norton Firewall and refers are allowed...but not recommended while trying to set up PHP scripts...setting this up from my W2K box ftping to the Linux box. I uploaded the script files in ASCII and the permissions are correct. I have checked the on-line documentation and have looked at a couple of books but there is very little in any of them about how to set up (if that is the problem), most are on how to use. Any pointers, clues, hints, insights? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cups and hpijs driver - follow up
Attempting to set up HP DeskJet960c on Linux Woody box. I have made progress which makes failure that much more frustrating at this point. First I got both the KDElibs3-cups utility and the CUPs administration tool to recognize and even allow me to configure the printer by 1. removing all the printer related packages I could find and deleting any related leftover directories and files I could find. The only thing I left on (that I know of) was the /usr/share/CUPS/models/ ppd. Then I reinstalled: cupsys -pstoraster cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client foomati-bin foomatic-db hpijs mpage kdelibs3-cups Now the only problem is that although the printer does respond to being given a test page to print (either from the KDE tool or from the CUPs admin tool...or for that matter by attempting to print a file)...all that happens is that a blank sheet of paper gets sent through the printer without any printing being done. Can anyone provide any insight as to what I am missing here? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: about web link
Can I put a img src httpd://www.company2.com/photo.jpg code in the webpage source of comapny1, so when we visit company1's site , we can see that photo without hit mouse bottom? Especially company 2 's website was broadcast by apache. Yes, but you really want to be visiting: http://www.htmlhelp.com/bbs/ to get up to speed with html, this has nothing to do with apache or Debian img src= width= height= alt= Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: cups and hpijs driver
Thanks again Benedict, well said, I will revisit your previous suggestion and also reinstall cupsys.bsd. The one further development is I think printer-specific. On the printer itself I pressed the middle button and the printer put out what was a beautifully printed test sheet...I believe an internal test sheet, but still it shows the printer works. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Olds Subject: Re: RE: cups and hpijs driver Michael Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Re: HPDeskJet 960c as local printer on Woody box I've used up my variables. I installed the KDE kdelips3-cups package, (and I also have installed: cupsys; cupsys-client; cupsys-pstoraster; mpage; foomatic-bin; foomatic-db; and hpijs -- I did not install cupsys-bsd as this is for printing off the local linux box only; Hm, i installed cupsys-bsd as well. Not sure if i need it though since it's also a local printer in my setup I did a custom PPD which looks like it is installed correctly and is being used) and it knows about CUPS, but when I start up the wizzard the first dialog box I get is all grayed out except for Class of Printers and if I select that, the next one shows no printers available. I didn't have to bother with class of Printers. I went to linuxprinting.org, made a ppd for my printer and saved it in de models directory. Then i installed the cupsomatic perl script from the same site in the filter directory and restarted cups I did not try Benedict's Cupsomatic Perl script under the thinking that this was taken care of by my custom PPD and the functions are supplied by the foomatic guys...yes? Foomatic is needed. I tested it once by uninstalling and see if stuff would work but it doesn't. I'm not sure about the cupsomatic perl script either. linuxprinting.org said to add it so i did. In the CUPS http admin tool I appear to be able to set up the printer, and it sees it at: URI: parallel /dev/lp0 and it has Device: Parallel Port 1 Mine is usb: /dev/usb/lp0 Clicking on Print Test Page gets the printer rolling, and then it spits out a blank page. Does printing from a webpage work? when i go to configure it it gives me: client-error-not-found first time out I went back and installed the CUPS client, but that didn't change anything. I had that error too untill i installed all of the above. I *think* that i got that error because i didn't install foomatic.bin (I have deleted and re-added, and stopped and started the printer several times). I also took a look at the kernel and I have IEEE support, parallel printer support, and USB support. When I try and print a file from Nedit I get: Unable to Print sh:lpr command not found (I also mentioned previously that when I try to enter the administration tool via the command line lpadmin I get no such command) Don't you need to have the cupsys-bsd stuff to manager printing via lpr? Just to be sure I shut down and restarted a couple of times. Also generously peppered the operation with /etc/init.d/cupsys restart Just Guessing in the dark, I added the printer to the classes following the obvious...ahum...choices in the wizzard. nada Like i said, i didn't need to add the printer to the classes. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org How come after 3 rebuilds, when i run # uname -a my kernel is still listed as #1 the date is the rebuild date, and the vmlinus version in /boot is also dated correctly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cups and hpijs driver
Re: setting up DeskJet 960c as local printer on Woody box I have reviewed the cupsomatic perl script situation and this basically duplicates the work being done by the custom PPD and the foomatic-bin and foomatic-db (at least that's how I understand it). I have also installed cupsys-bsd, gv, and qtcups per various sets of instructions. So now I have the following installed: cupsis-pstoraster cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-bsd cupsys-client foomatic-bin foomatic-db gv hpijs mpage qtcups Still no joy. I think the problem is occuring somewhere between the printer as hardware which seems to be installed ok, and the various installed packages which also seem to be set up ok. It's just that the two are not talking to each other. Except for the fact that this may indicate something else wrong with my setup, I'm about to say Why do I need this? since the printer off my W2K box works fine and I could probably set up this printer on an open USB port and have it up and running in two minutes (the little test it did for itself looked like a very nice job of printing, better than the multi-function OfficeJetT65 I use on the W2K box.) 1. What would be the best way to get everything print related out of the machine to start over? Uninstall all of the above? Anything else? 2. Can I still be missing something in my kernel? 3. How do you command-line send a job to the printer? lpr and pdq both give me: command not found. I looked in modutls aliases and inserted the lines: alias /dev/printers lp alias /dev/lp0 lp alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc and rebooted, but that did nothing, so I removed them. My thinking is it is something like this that is the problem: no communication between the parallel port and the printing drivers. 4. I tried printing from the Web, no go, but that's no real test as Mozilla doesn't do anything for me except see pages (I just installed the browser). 5. The error message off Nedit has changed, and is now: lpr: unable to print file: server-error-service-unavailable Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cups and hpijs driver
Donald, Thank you for sticking with this! I havn't yet done anything on Linux that hasn't been a major hassle (not complaining, I really like the brain exercise and I like the end result which usually works well...I have my webserver up and running without a problem now for a couple of months...getting ready to set up mysql and php...anyway:) Using the parallel port. OK...same here Do a lsmod as root and see if the following modules are loaded: paraport paraport_pc lp All three present and accounted for. OK...drivers are present. I see a message in the bootup messages indicating it sees the printer, I see the same in my messages. Names it by name. and also: lp0 using parport0 OK...just a thought here. Do you have your parallel port turned on in the BIOS. It shouldn't make a difference to Linux, but one never knows ;) I Checked and it is on. But... and when I try the KDE Printing Manager it shows up already listed in the Local Port Selection screen of the Wizzard. Right.. same here. Mine shows a tree of selections: Parallel Parallel Port #1 HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 960C Do you high-light it (select it) so parallel:/dev/lp0 shows in the URI window at the bottom of the screen? This is a miscommunication. I do not get this. I was quoting you. haha. I do not get as far as Local Port Selection in the wizzard as it is demanding a backend In Backend Classes are all greyed out except Class of Printers which if I select, brings me to Class Composition which gives me no selections at all. End of the line. I get this as the very first screen after the KDE Wizzard starts up. All of mine are available except the Print to file and Serial Fax/Modem Printer selections, which are greyed-out. I wonder where does the wizzard get this information? It must be a configuration file somewher, no? Do you have CUPS selected as the Print System Currently Used at the bottom of the KDE Printing Manager? The only other thing that might cause this is that somehow your kdelibs3-cups didn't get installed properly...Strange. try re-installing the kdelibs3-cups package. What version of KDE are you using? I am using 2.2.2 from Woody/Testing. I have NOT made the move to the 3.X versions yet. I am using 2.2.2 too. I just uninstalled, shut down, restarted, installed ran /etc/init.d/cupsys restart and opened control centersystem and I get the same routine: backend selections all grayed out, etc. Yes I have CUPS as the Print System Currently Used. You ARE trying all this config as root ... right? Yes Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cups and hpijs driver
OK, Re: HPDeskJet 960c as local printer on Woody box I've used up my variables. I installed the KDE kdelips3-cups package, (and I also have installed: cupsys; cupsys-client; cupsys-pstoraster; mpage; foomatic-bin; foomatic-db; and hpijs -- I did not install cupsys-bsd as this is for printing off the local linux box only; I did a custom PPD which looks like it is installed correctly and is being used) and it knows about CUPS, but when I start up the wizzard the first dialog box I get is all grayed out except for Class of Printers and if I select that, the next one shows no printers available. I did not try Benedict's Cupsomatic Perl script under the thinking that this was taken care of by my custom PPD and the functions are supplied by the foomatic guys...yes? In the CUPS http admin tool I appear to be able to set up the printer, and it sees it at: URI: parallel /dev/lp0 and it has Device: Parallel Port 1 Clicking on Print Test Page gets the printer rolling, and then it spits out a blank page. when i go to configure it it gives me: client-error-not-found ...first time out I went back and installed the CUPS client, but that didn't change anything. (I have deleted and re-added, and stopped and started the printer several times). I also took a look at the kernel and I have IEEE support, parallel printer support, and USB support. When I try and print a file from Nedit I get: Unable to Print sh:lpr command not found (I also mentioned previously that when I try to enter the administration tool via the command line lpadmin I get no such command) Just to be sure I shut down and restarted a couple of times. Also generously peppered the operation with /etc/init.d/cupsys restart Just Guessing in the dark, I added the printer to the classes following the obvious...ahum...choices in the wizzard. nada Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org How come after 3 rebuilds, when i run # uname -a my kernel is still listed as #1 the date is the rebuild date, and the vmlinus version in /boot is also dated correctly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cracked cracker?
Thanks Kenneth, Another possibility, if you just want to stop logging the pests, is to put the following in the global section of your httpd.conf: # Stop logging nimda requests, based on: #http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2001-October/026587.html # SetEnvIfNoCase Request_URI /cmd.exe|/root.exe|/default.ida nimda CustomLog /var/log/apache/access.log combined env=!nimda # comment out next line to NOT log nimda requests CustomLog /var/log/apache/nimda.log %a %v %t %U env=nimda # # suppress logging errors from serving 404s to the bastards: IfModule mod_alias.c RedirectMatch (.*)/root.exe http://not.nimda.friendly.invalid$1 RedirectMatch (.*)/cmd.exe http://not.nimda.friendly.invalid$1 RedirectMatch (.*)/default.ida http://not.nimda.friendly.invalid$1 /IfModule I have a line in there to log nimda requests to a seperate file, comment it out if you don't want it. If you're maintaining seperate logs for multiple VirtualHosts, repeat the CustomLog directive(s) for each one (adjust your paths): VirtualHost * ServerName www.DOMAIN.TLD ServerAlias DOMAIN.TLD ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /var/www/DOMAIN.TLD/htdocs UserDir disabled #keep nimda out of access.log CustomLog /var/www/DOMAIN.TLD/log/access.log combined env=!nimda CustomLog /var/www/DOMAIN.TLD/log/nimda.log %a %v %t %U env=nimda ErrorLog /var/www/DOMAIN.TLD/log/error.log /VirtualHost I am going to do this today. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: getting networking to work [was Re: ethernet card]
-Original Message- From: Andrew Hurt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: getting networking to work [was Re: ethernet card] For the most part, everything seems to be o.k., and tulip-diag/ifconfig/etc. are giving me the green light (so to speak), but I'm concerned because I can't get to the http://192.168.254.254/ in the router--SpeedStream 2602 (caveat: no modem/network connection to test, yet). Have you tried turning everything off completely -- power off, then starting up again? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cups and hpijs driver
I'm catching up to this one late, and am being thrown off by the very start. I have a DeskJet 960C I am pretty sure it's hooked up right as it was running under RedHat (meaning I have PnP turned off in the BIOS) and during one point in playing around tonight I saw that something knew the printer was there.(don't ask, I've been trying to find it again and can't). I have installed the foomatic.bin and foomatic.db and cupsys and it's depends and have generated and saved in /usr/share/cups/model/HP-DeskJet`.ppd But when I type lpadmin in the terminal I get unknown command and when I use the web interface I am thrown by the first three questions (I think I understand what follows!): Name: what name? Is that just an I make it up name? DeskJet 960C? The Help file says the helpful wizzard will walk you through this and you just answer a few obvious questions! Not obvious to me. Locatin: what location? and if this is the /dev/lp or lp0 or lp1 can I just go and assign that? Description I can guess is nothing important. Thanks for any help and sorry if this was already covered. I would like to get a printer hooked up to the rig. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Removing devfsd
I've been through this one. You need to recompile the kernel and change the supported files. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bob Hilliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Removing devfsd How can devfsd be removed safely? I have purged the package, cleaned out /dev and reconstructed the device files with `MAKEDEV generic', but the partition is then unbootable. On boot, fsck reports: fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda6. To recover, I have booted another partition, mounted hda6 on /mnt, chrooted into hda6 and re-installed devfsd. This is reproducible - I have done it three times. Regards, Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cracked cracker?
This is a small sample from my access log. Can someone explain to me why this person would repeatedly attempt access to my computer using the same IP and the same requests over and over? This isn't to the point of being a DOS attack; can't they see I don't have any of these things that they think will enable them to crack my machine? Or is there something else going on here? 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 270 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /MSADC/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 268 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 278 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 278 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /scripts/..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 292 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /_vti_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 309 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /_mem_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 309 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /msadc/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c/..%c1%1c../..%c1%1c../..%c1%1c../winnt/sy stem32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 325 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /scripts/..%c1%1c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 291 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 291 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:08 -0800] GET /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 291 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:09 -0800] GET /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 291 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:09 -0800] GET /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400 275 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:09 -0800] GET /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400 275 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:09 -0800] GET /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 292 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:09 -0800] GET /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 292 - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cracked cracker?
This same guy is at it again today. The stupid thing to my mind is using the same IP. How exactly do I go about reporting him to his ISP? Anyone know...or should I just let him be? -Original Message- From: Antoine Jacoutot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:55 AM To: Michael Olds Cc: Debian-User Subject: Re: Cracked cracker? On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:55, Michael Olds wrote: This is a small sample from my access log. Can someone explain to me why this person would repeatedly attempt access to my computer using the same IP and the same requests over and over? This isn't to the point of being a DOS attack; can't they see I don't have any of these things that they think will enable them to crack my machine? Or is there something else going on here? My apache access.log is full of those too... I guess that must be some king of automated attack against IIS servers, so I never worried. Antoine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cracked cracker?
Thanks everyone. I did know it was the code red virus or worm or whatever (you can see the depth of my knowledge...haha)...I have seen the logs from my hosted website before. This was on my own server, and what was interesting this time was that this same IP kept showing up. Usually you get a string of hits then the same or similar string with another IP. This (ok not person, box) was going at it every ten minutes most of the afternoon yesterday and again today (I shut down during the night). I am new enough with my own setup to not have seen this aspect of the code red attack...web server up and running for only about a month. I emailed the ISP to tell them about it, they may have shut them (it) down. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Craig Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:12 AM To: Debian-User Subject: Re: Cracked cracker? Michael Olds wrote: This is a small sample from my access log. Can someone explain to me why this person It's not a person. would repeatedly attempt access to my computer using the same IP and the same requests over and over? This isn't to the point of being a DOS attack; can't they see I don't have any of these things that they think will enable them to crack my machine? Or is there something else going on here? 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 270 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /MSADC/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 268 - - 63.205.213.16 - - [11/Dec/2002:13:16:07 -0800] GET /c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 278 - - [etc.] I have to admit I'm amazed that anyone running a mailserver wouldn't know what that was. Have you just set up one for the first time? Anyway, this is the Windows Nimda virus trying to break into a vulnerable installation of the Microsoft IIS server, not realizing that you're not what it's looking for. Nimda has been doing this for at least a year now, I think, and it got quite a lot of press when it first came out. Unsurprisingly, 63.205.213.16 appears to belong to a local cable company that offers digital TV and cable modem services. So the machine in question is probably just a Windows 2000 machine belonging to one of their customers, who, typical of the average Windows users, has no idea that he is running a web server on his computer, no idea that his computer is infected with a virus, and no idea what the phrase security update means. Although, interestingly, telnetting to 63.205.213.16 on the www and smtp ports gets connection refused. So either the user has belatedly got a clue, or they've simply gone offline and someone else now has their DHCP address. Craig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cracked cracker?
Run the 'host' command on the IP address... Craig The Debian User listserver isn't all too healthy today...big lag. I did finally run a tracert and e-mail the ISP and the attacks have stopped, so maybe it got through. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EXIM relay for specific users
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:28:56PM -0800, Michael Olds wrote: I guess I didn't see the post with the RTFM and YFA. I said I read O'Reilly. I have read the manuals... I don't think Paul was too harsh... ... First, I don't believe it was Paul that sent the RTFM and YFA post...at least I hope not as I was grateful for the information he did provide. Second for ANYONE to say something like RTFM and YFA is out of line in my book. Given the state of the documentation, and considering that none of us know the circumstances of the people writing for help the only reasonable thing is to either answer the question or keepeeupeepeeclo. This applies even moreso when someone states outright the fact that they HAVE read the documentation and still did not find the answer. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Proftp behind firewall problem solved
p.s. It's standard practice to not CC anyone on the list, unless their Mail-Followup-To header says to or they explictely ask. Sorry if my reply went directly to you. I am not really in the list habit...what usually happens is that I hit Reply in stead of Reply to All -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP!
Check your permissions. -Original Message-From: Sasha Karlik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP! I have a network connectionbetween a Debian boxand a win2000 box. My WSFTP client browses to the file sytem on the debian box. When I try to put files to the debian box, it locks and fails withthis message: ! Receive error: Blocking call cancelled I tried with passive transfer mode both on and off. The same error message appears, regardless. Does anyone know what I can do to make my FTP transferswork from the Windows side?
RE: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP!
Hello. Responding to the subject message, I received the following from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (in plain text) 1. is this part of the Debian Users list setup? and I would like to be able to do this for myself, can anyone explain how this is done? This is an automatic reply. Your message HAS BEEN REGULARLY DELIVERED. However, some MIME parts have been stripped from it. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND THIS MESSAGE. The MIME type(s) that have been removed are listed at the bottom of this message. Please refrain from sending further messages with these MIME types to this address. If your original message was sent to a mailing list, you may want to seriously reconsider sending the MIME type(s) listed below to the list. If you find something unclear about this notification, feel free to reply to this message. This is a list of the MIME types of every stripped part: A. text/html -Original Message-From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:20 AMTo: Sasha Karlik; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP! Check your permissions. -Original Message-From: Sasha Karlik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP! I have a network connectionbetween a Debian boxand a win2000 box. My WSFTP client browses to the file sytem on the debian box. When I try to put files to the debian box, it locks and fails withthis message: ! Receive error: Blocking call cancelled I tried with passive transfer mode both on and off. The same error message appears, regardless. Does anyone know what I can do to make my FTP transferswork from the Windows side?
RE: Proftp behind firewall problem solved
Thanks for the response Rob, I should be recognizing this by now...whenever I shoot off my mouth about having solved a problem, it isn't really solved at all: Mistaking the fact that it works for the solution of the problem. 1. This is a one-man 2-computer setup, so I generally ftp from behind the firewall, but I would like it to work just to make it work, and I will eventually want it to work for a couple of friends whose sites I would like to host. 2. I am probably using the wrong terminology. I use Cute FTP. The settings for this connection are: SFTP using SSH2 (Secure Shell) port 22 Use Global Settings and I have SSH2 set up on the Linux box and it works (meaning I connect and I can up and download files). My (thin-film level) understanding was that SSH2 actually pretended to be whatever open ports were necessary for the communication, but all traffic went through 22. At this time the firewall is actually closed on 20 and 21 and everything else except 22, 80, 110, 25. The address I connect to is not the internal IP but the domain name; the client log shows it is going through the Internet and is initializing SFTP module. So I don't know what to say here. Answering your second response here, I do not know what more I can do to look into it further except to let my understanding mature to the level where I can see what I am overlooking. I bought O'Reilly's TCP/IP Network Administration and a half dozen other books and have read the various manuals (and Google how to pages where this very problem seems to be being solved all the time) and tried a huge number of variations on that setup with no success. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:39 AM To: Debian-User Subject: Re: Proftp behind firewall problem solved On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 02:51:50PM -0800, Michael Olds wrote: Hello again, I should be recognizing this by now...whenever I am about to send a message to a help list I am about five minutes from solving the problem...and of course if I actually get as far as describing the problem in great detail the solution is sure to make me look like an idiot. In this case: opening port 21 or 20, or setting up a range of thousands of open ports for PASV mode for SFTP won't do it. Gotta open port 22 in the firewall. That was all it took. Uh, that's weird. I don't think this can be very robust, since the data port is semi-randomly chosen...Plus, it's the SSH port, so how are you going to SSH/sftp/scp into that machine? -rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EXIM relay for specific users
Andrew,
Glad you replied to this! This was Paul Johnson's solution not mine. I used
the other suggestion that was made (simpler, so I tried it first thinking it
would probably not work as I thought I had already tried it) that is to put
the public IP number in the
hosts_accept_relay=
directive.
Unfortunately when I saved this I clipped off the name of the person who
gave me that answer...thanks to you whoeva you is!
Now...how come it's working so slowly? I commented out the lookup directive
to no effect. Maybe I should try Paul's solution.
I'm afraid I am not up to speed on SSL...I'm listening if anyone wants to
jump in.
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
-Original Message-
From: Andrew R Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:52 PM
To: Debian User
Subject: RE: EXIM relay for specific users
-Original Message-
From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 12:10 AM
To: debian-user List
Subject: RE: EXIM relay for specific users
I don't know about the SSL part, but I'll save you the royal pain in
the ass associated with exim and pam...
In /etc/exim/exim.conf...
In Main Configuration Settings add...
# Fix problems with auth.
exim_user=mail
exim_group=shadow
In Authentication Configuration, make it read something like...
##
# AUTHENTICATION CONFIGURATION #
##
# Look in the documentation (in package exim-doc or exim-doc-html for
# information on how to set up authenticated connections.
plain:
driver = plaintext
public_name = PLAIN
server_condition = ${if pam{$2:$3}{1}{0}}
server_set_id = $2
login:
driver = plaintext
public_name = LOGIN
server_prompts = Username:::Password::
server_condition = ${if pam {$1:${sg{$2}{:}{::}}}{yes}{no}}
server_set_id = $1
# End of Exim configuration file
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
Thank you very much for this Michael. It is working perfectly. How do I do
this with ssl?
There are a lot of parts of my exim.conf that are commented out relating to
tls conections. Is this similar to ssl?
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RE: Holiday Wish list
Thanks Karsten, I'll check it out...Wiki's are just entering my consciousness at this point... -Original Message- From: Karsten Self [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karsten M. Self Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Holiday Wish list on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:11:49AM -0800, Michael Olds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: oops, sorry for the off-list post Bill, here's what I said: There is definately something very inefficient about these mailing lists for sure. I think a better approach is the Bulletin Board with an active moderator, so that a permanent thread could be opened on a topic and additions and questions asked eventually building up a valuable database of information. Here as you say, things come up over and over with maybe slight variations, and get lost very easily. Which is one of the goals of a Wiki. I'm running one myself, with a focus on free software tools: http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main ...and it's aimed at filling in just this gap between mailing lists and Usenet on the one hand and HOWTOs and hardcopy on the other. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Geek for hire: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Holiday Wish list
oops, sorry for the off-list post Bill, here's what I said: There is definately something very inefficient about these mailing lists for sure. I think a better approach is the Bulletin Board with an active moderator, so that a permanent thread could be opened on a topic and additions and questions asked eventually building up a valuable database of information. Here as you say, things come up over and over with maybe slight variations, and get lost very easily. The problem with old, out of date information (expecially books you don't find out about until you've paid your $40 bucks) is another bad one...a price we pay I suppose for not being a huge market. Still more energy is wasted I'd bet than it would take to do it right the first time. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bill Moseley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Holiday Wish list Ok, so this is coffee induced, but my one wish is that all HOWTOs include a last modified date so I don't spend hours learning and installing the old way, and that all HOWTOs explain *why* each step is done instead of just the steps. (Is that two wishes?) The main reason I pick Debian is that I want to install just what I need and use, and understand *why* it's installed and *how* the parts fit together. I've often been tempted by Linux from Scratch for this reason, but I love apt-get too much. And if I can ask for anything, I'd ask for Debian specific HOWTO wikis. I think most all debian setup and config options are discussed on this list - often over and over. I'd love to see individual topic HOWTOs specific to debian that can be annotated/updated as questions and answers come up on the list. And then perhaps a CGI interface where a new user can be asked a series of questions about what kind of system they want and get a list of steps that are pointers to the individual HOWTO wikis. Kind of like tasksel, but in documentation. It would also have to be a rather smart system to detect that addition of, say ide-scsi, might need a kernel recompile and include those docs. Ok, it would never work as TIMTOWTDI when setting up a machine. But for newcomers some time there's too many ways, and one good way would be a nice start. The other reason to reject such an idea is that there already is a ton of really good docs available. Still, I like the wiki idea to update docs as things come up on this list. I say all this because I have been trying to keep good notes when I set up a new machine. I install a base system and then try and apt-get only what I need. My notes try and explain why I need to install something, some basics of how it works (e.g. /etc/init.d/foo runs, reads /etc/default/foo.conf, and foo updates something else kind of thing). Rarely perfect but takes some of the mystery out of it. And I cut-n-paste the actual commands I type into my notes which make re-using them really easy (as I can then cut-n-paste from the notes). I reinstalled a machine a few days ago and I picked sections of what I wanted to install from the notes of three other installs and it was so easy to set up that new machine for me. That's what made me think about a way to select the things I want setup and have the notes compiled together for me. Ok, enough of that. Time for another cup of coffee. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EXIM relay for specific users
Andrew,
I also couldn't find it using the search tool, kept bringing me back to
alternative ways to search. I used the author index. It's in November under
Paul's name.
But I copied the relevant posts very much fits what you are after methinks:
I want to setup a mailserver, like the servers an ISP has. I have exim
installed and it delivers and recieves mail just fine. I have a static
IP and a domain. I also have uw-imapd-ssl running , which is really
neat. I can read email over ssl links from anywhere on the net with
mozilla-mail, outlook express, etc.
But this is only half of the deal. I can't send email from my email
clients because exim rejects the mail, saying it won't relay email. So
what I want is to have exim ask for a login password, and if possible do
this over an ssl connection too.
At first I tried using PAM, but nothing I did effected exim, then I
noticed in my exim.conf I found some lines about setting up
authentication but I can't quite get it working. Are there any guides on
this? I really want to set this up using SSL since most of the email
logins will also be shell logins, so sending those logins unencrypted
seems like a bad idea.
Is there anykind of a guide I can read? I tried searching google, but I
get lots of stuff not related to what I want to do, and the NAG has some
info, but not on having smpt password login.
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 08:56:10AM -0500, ZZ wrote:
At first I tried using PAM, but nothing I did effected exim, then I
noticed in my exim.conf I found some lines about setting up
authentication but I can't quite get it working. Are there any guides on
this? I really want to set this up using SSL since most of the email
logins will also be shell logins, so sending those logins unencrypted
seems like a bad idea.
I don't know about the SSL part, but I'll save you the royal pain in
the ass associated with exim and pam...
In /etc/exim/exim.conf...
In Main Configuration Settings add...
# Fix problems with auth.
exim_user=mail
exim_group=shadow
In Authentication Configuration, make it read something like...
##
# AUTHENTICATION CONFIGURATION #
##
# Look in the documentation (in package exim-doc or exim-doc-html for
# information on how to set up authenticated connections.
plain:
driver = plaintext
public_name = PLAIN
server_condition = ${if pam{$2:$3}{1}{0}}
server_set_id = $2
login:
driver = plaintext
public_name = LOGIN
server_prompts = Username:::Password::
server_condition = ${if pam {$1:${sg{$2}{:}{::}}}{yes}{no}}
server_set_id = $1
# End of Exim configuration file
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
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Proftp behind firewall
Greetings once again, I have requested help on this issue before, but the problem was never resolved, so here goes one more try (a little different this time; I have given up trying to set up anonymous ftp): I need to get plain-ol' ftp working. I am using Proftp. My setup is: Intel 850 P4 1.9G; 1GbRAM; Win2000; Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM; Debian Linux (3.0 Woody); Connected to a static DSL IP through a US Robotics Broadband Router. I have given up on Anonymous ftp; I just need to provide a couple of users secure access to websites I want to host for them. Currently I am using sftp (SSH2) to access my own websites from the Windows box behind the router. When I try to use the Internet I cannot make the connection (various error messages...tell me what setup you want me to try and I will post the error message). I have read the documentation and nothing quite deals with my situation which surely cannot be unique. And I have read each of the following: Slow logins: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/faq_full.html#AEN414 Networking/firewall/NAT issue: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-NAT.txt http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html (See a name=extract_1 href=#extract_1exextract/a below) Debugging:http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-De bugging.html I need to know: What ports should be opened through the router's firewall? I have tried 21 20 and those plus the range 6-65000. What should my proftpd.conf look like: I have tried variations on the folowing in the proftpd.conf: # UseReverseDNS off # IdentLookups off # # MasqueradeAddress both ftp.mydomain.net and http://www~ and 00.000.00.00 the static IP Address used to connect to the Internet # PassivePorts 6 65535 # AllowForeignAddress on # Neither ftp nor nogroup are in /etc/ftpusers What I have not changed is anything to do with configuring the NAT as I am not sure that is what I need to do (or what I need to do to change it)...so I need to know if it is what I need to do. I have reconfigured this endless times over the last couple of months and I am tuckered! Anyone can guide me through this or point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EXIM relay for specific users
EXIM relay for specific users Hello again, I cannot get EXIM to let me relay email. I have read Hazel, EXIM (O'Reilly), and numbers of other documents but I am missing something. The setup: Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM; Debian Linux (3.0 Woody) behind a US Robotics Firewall connected to a Static IP# The two computers on the LAN have static IPs I would like to allow valid users to relay mail from their computers to anywhere through my server. Right now everything but that appears to work fine. I can mail to my account on the server and download the mail from the server via POP3 and I can mail from the users desktop to anywhere. host_auth_accept_relay = * (also tried mydomain.net) I have both login and plain uncommented in the exim.conf and I have created an /etc/exim/passwd file I always get the following error: Server response 550 relaying prohibited by administrator. Can someone tell me what I need to do to get this working? Thanks! Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EXIM relay for specific users
OK, Paul I don't understand this, but I did find your archive solution...I think...about how to use PAM for authentication. I will check into this in the morning. Thanks, Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:12 PM To: debian-user List Subject: Re: EXIM relay for specific users On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:00:35PM -0500, P. M. Wright wrote: EXIM relay for specific users Check the archives. Keywords to look for are ASMTP and exim. I posted the appropriate fix a while back. RTFM?!? YFA! This isn't RTFM. This is an already recently answered question, readily found in the archive. Don't be an ingrate. -- .''`. Baloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EXIM relay for specific users
I guess I didn't see the post with the RTFM and YFA. I said I read O'Reilly. I have read the manuals. I have searched Google and have a good collection of links. I have played with the configuration for more than a month now...first began (look in the archives...) in October. I work at it until I can't think of anything more to do and then ask. I don't think I am abusing the system. Either the answer to this question is not spelled out in the documentation or I am reading in incorrectly in some way that needs to be changed, either way I am stuck. (I did not see the series of answers Paul gave because I have not been connected to the list for the last month or more.) Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:12 PM To: debian-user List Subject: Re: EXIM relay for specific users On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:00:35PM -0500, P. M. Wright wrote: EXIM relay for specific users Check the archives. Keywords to look for are ASMTP and exim. I posted the appropriate fix a while back. RTFM?!? YFA! This isn't RTFM. This is an already recently answered question, readily found in the archive. Don't be an ingrate. -- .''`. Baloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anonymous Proftp setup problems
Nate, thank you for this response, I am behind my router's firewall, but set up with static external and internal IPs: In Proftp (global) I Set up: UseReverseDNS off IdentLookupsoff MasqueradeAddress 000.000.000.00 of the servers internal IP PassivePorts 6-65535 and set up my router to listen on 21 and 6-65535 and I still get timed out: COMMAND: PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (internal.server.ip.no,251,62). COMMAND: LIST STATUS:Connecting ftp data socket internal.server.ip.no:64318... ERROR: Timeout. I did #fuser -n tcp 21 and got: 21/tcp: 230 I really don't know what that means. I do not have a user 230 I also did netstat -an | grep 21 and got a bunch of stuff, but didn't see anything that rang any bells. But here too I really do not know what I am looking for. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: nate [mailto:debian-user;aphroland.org] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anonymous Proftp setup problems Michael Olds said: I am unable to get Proftp Anonymous ftp working (download only; real use on the internal network is working fine), and am hoping that someone you mention internal network. to me this makes me think you are running it behind NAT. passive ftp does not work well with NAT. try your client in ACTIVE ftp mode or put the ftp server infront of your NAT box. If I run proftpd -nd5 debugging I get: The error log reads: failed binding to 0.0.0.0, port 21; address already in use run fuser -n tcp 21 if that doesn't turn up anything then check netstat -an | grep 21 sounds like your problem is NAT though, serving FTP data behind dynamic NAT is not a good idea. FTP works fine if you use static NAT(1 external IP maps to 1 internal ip on all ports). I have only done this on cisco routers though. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache handling SSI
Hello, I know I could just do this, but I am a little gun shy: can an Apache server that now runs SSI using an .shtml mime type and an .shtml AddHandler be made to run SSI on .htm files by just including AddHandler server-parsed .htm ? Not sure I said that correctly: I want to include includes in plain old .htm files and forget about .shtml. And is there some reason for not doing this? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache handling SSI
OK Thanks something to think about -Original Message- From: nate [mailto:debian-user;aphroland.org] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache handling SSI Michael Olds said: Hello, I know I could just do this, but I am a little gun shy: can an Apache server that now runs SSI using an .shtml mime type and an .shtml AddHandler be made to run SSI on .htm files by just including AddHandler server-parsed .htm ? Not sure I said that correctly: I want to include includes in plain old .htm files and forget about .shtml. And is there some reason for not doing this? it should work fine yes. as for why not, probably a bit less load on the system if it doesn't have to inspect every single .html file for includes. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
Hello, This is still a draft. This is a request for advanced users to take a look see and add comments or suggestions. The idea is a step by step instruction for Fresh New to Linux/Debian users, with the hope that they will be encouraged to attempt a rebuild of their kernel almost first thing after initial install. I use a technique which is a blend of using a file manager along with a terminal so I can see where I am at and yet do what I need to do in the terminal. This is a good way to work into using the terminal. !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (NOTE: we need a source for these as they are not created on a new install or by unpacking the kernel-source...and should they be in /usr/src/linux/ anyway): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html This is good for using the make menuconfig method http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexre q=viewarticleartid=532 This is good for using the make xconfig method Bear in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so that future updates of the kernel can be made using dpkg. (I have stated this in these boldly confident terms not being sure that this is the essence at all...hoping for confirmation or education...mo) R: The way that kernel headers are handled on a debian system may be different to other distros, so clarification would be worthwhile just to avoid confusion. ---Step-by-Step--- [ ]A. Before 1: Download and create a recovery floppy from: http://www.toms.net/rb/ [ ]1.a. Download the latest kernel source package (use a Debian source; or make sure you have read all the documentation above) to /usr/src (this is where it will be installed if you use dselect, a package manager, synaptic or aptitude). Best practices seem to indicate that the package be built outside of /usr/src so creating /usr/src/linux and creating a sym-link from /linux to /usr/src/kernel~ as in step 1.d below seems to be the way to handle this.) [ ]1.b. if no /usr/src/linux dir exists, make it $ cd /usr/src $ mkdir linux [ ]1.c. change directory to /usr/src and unpack the source package -- use the unpacking tools with your file manager, or: $ su #enter root password $ cd /usr/src $ tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2 (or latest) [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux $ ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux [ ]2. Just to be professional: go to /etc/kernel.pkg.conf and modify the file by inserting your Kernel Source Maintainer Name and e-mail address. [ ]3. Make sure [ ]expectk if you want to use the user friendly: make xconfig [ ]debhelper [ ]modutils [ ]libncurses5-dev [ ]bin86 [ ]libc6-dev [ ]debianutils [ ]make [ ]bzip2 and [ ]kernel-package are installed. R Notes: don't use gcc 3.x, but something like gcc 2.95. Which I do not understand. Clarification? [ ]4. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy old configuration file to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cp /boot/config-2.4.18-386 .config # get current config as default [ ]5. # cd to /usr/src/linux $ make menuconfig or make xconfig and make your selections To do this you need to have some familiarity with your hardware and what you are intending to use the system for. This you need to work out yourself. Once this is figured out, it might be helpful, on the first rebuild, to make your updates with reference to the original configuration, (called config-2.4.18bf24 (or your kernel version)) which you should find under /root using the M (module) option where a module was used and building the feature into the kernel (*) or [y] option where it was built into the kernel. Use the HELP option for brief explanations. This at least until you understand which can be safely changed under your setup. Note: If you're using --initrd, make sure Compressed ROM file system support is built in, or you'll get a kernel panic (need CramFS). (Side note: I see that answers my question about how to get it in there...sorry!) [ ]6.a. [ ]# make-kpkg clean 6.b. [ ]# make-kpkg -revision=!--insert your own personal rebuild version number here: i.e.: -revision=0001) --initrd kernel_image (see NOTES
RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
Thank you, I am still in a fog in terms of simple things like symlinks. What you want is to end up with a link in the linux directory called kernel-source-2.4.18 that links to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18. So how should that be said? [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to kernel-source-2.4.18 from /usr/src/linux $ ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Jamin W.Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:19:48 -0700 Michael Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ]1.b. if no /usr/src/linux dir exists, make it $ cd /usr/src $ mkdir linux (snip) [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux $ ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux Doing 1.b. followed by 1.d. will _not_ work. A directory with the name linux exists, as it was created in 1.b. and thus a symlink with the same name can not be made at the same level. Instead you will wind up with a symlink in the linux directory called kernel-source-2.4.18. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
We're getting there. Yes, I have it incorrectly, what is wanted is that step five should read: [ ]5. # cd to /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.4.18 Corrected, thanks. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Jamin W.Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:25:07 -0700 Michael Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still in a fog in terms of simple things like symlinks. What you want is to end up with a link in the linux directory called kernel-source-2.4.18 that links to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18. So how should that be said? Why would you want that? To make sure we are talking about the same thing, you're saying that you want to end up with /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.4.18 that points to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 If this is correct, then your instructions in step 5 are wrong. |[ ]5. # cd to /usr/src/linux | | $ make menuconfig or make xconfig The make menuconfig needs to be done at the top of the kernel source tree. Which, would now be /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.4.18. Perhaps what you intended is that /usr/src/linux point to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 If that's the case, drop 1.b. altogether. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
Thanks Joyce, Added a line: Why would I want to rebuild the kernel, and will just add quotes from anyone who responds here. For me My kernel went from an original 1,263,333KB to 861,587KB, with the exact same setup. I also included your link. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Joyce, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:41 PM To: 'Michael Olds'; Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO I found this document bery useful. http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.en.html I did not follow it to the letter, but I did manage to rebuild the kernel first time with no problems. Perhaps also a section on why someone might want to rebuild, I found the pcmcia so much easier in 2.4.18. Other reasons, for me were, enabling sound, video/frame buffering, and removing stuff I just did not need, like scsi drivers. Matthew Joyce -Original Message- From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 15 October 2002 7:21 AM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO Hello, This is still a draft. This is a request for advanced users to take a look see and add comments or suggestions. The idea is a step by step instruction for Fresh New to Linux/Debian users, with the hope that they will be encouraged to attempt a rebuild of their kernel almost first thing after initial install. I use a technique which is a blend of using a file manager along with a terminal so I can see where I am at and yet do what I need to do in the terminal. This is a good way to work into using the terminal. !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (NOTE: we need a source for these as they are not created on a new install or by unpacking the kernel-source...and should they be in /usr/src/linux/ anyway): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html This is good for using the make menuconfig method http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexre q=viewarticleartid=532 This is good for using the make xconfig method Bear in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so that future updates of the kernel can be made using dpkg. (I have stated this in these boldly confident terms not being sure that this is the essence at all...hoping for confirmation or education...mo) R: The way that kernel headers are handled on a debian system may be different to other distros, so clarification would be worthwhile just to avoid confusion. ---Step-by-Step--- [ ]A. Before 1: Download and create a recovery floppy from: http://www.toms.net/rb/ [ ]1.a. Download the latest kernel source package (use a Debian source; or make sure you have read all the documentation above) to /usr/src (this is where it will be installed if you use dselect, a package manager, synaptic or aptitude). Best practices seem to indicate that the package be built outside of /usr/src so creating /usr/src/linux and creating a sym-link from /linux to /usr/src/kernel~ as in step 1.d below seems to be the way to handle this.) [ ]1.b. if no /usr/src/linux dir exists, make it $ cd /usr/src $ mkdir linux [ ]1.c. change directory to /usr/src and unpack the source package -- use the unpacking tools with your file manager, or: $ su #enter root password $ cd /usr/src $ tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2 (or latest) [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux $ ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux [ ]2. Just to be professional: go to /etc/kernel.pkg.conf and modify the file by inserting your Kernel Source Maintainer Name and e-mail address. [ ]3. Make sure [ ]expectk if you want to use the user friendly: make xconfig [ ]debhelper [ ]modutils [ ]libncurses5-dev [ ]bin86 [ ]libc6-dev [ ]debianutils [ ]make [ ]bzip2 and [ ]kernel-package are installed. R Notes: don't use gcc 3.x, but something like gcc 2.95. Which I do not understand. Clarification? [ ]4. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy old configuration file to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cp /boot/config-2.4.18-386 .config # get current config as default [ ]5
RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
Thanks Bruce, please see my response to Russell...there is some kind of misunderstanding (no doubt in my head) about the meaning of link and whether a link is to or from, etc. What I described actually worked, so I need to figure out how to say it so everyone will understand. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO We're getting there. Yes, I have it incorrectly, what is wanted is that step five should read: [ ]5. # cd to /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.4.18 Corrected, thanks. I'm not sure that is what you want to do; what you want is your kernel source in a folder that clearly identifies it by its number, i.e.: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 Then, to allow that to be found easily, make a symlink from that folder, and call the symlink linux # cd /usr/src # ln -s kernel-source-2.4.18 linux Now, typing cd /usr/src/linux will take you into /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 Good idea to put the basic requirements in a simple howto, and thanks for taking that on. I would not mesh the generic instructions with Debian instructions, though. For Debian, my mini-kernel howto would be brief (along with your desctiptions and explanations): # apt-get install kernel-package # apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 # apt-get install development packages -not sure offhand # ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux # cd /usr/src/linux # make xconfig # make-kpkg clean # make-kpkg -rev mypc.1 --append-to-version mypc kernel_image # cd .. # dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18mypc_mypc.1_i386.deb reboot Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
Osamu, Yes I did read those sources, however they created problems...for those using xconfig taking out the pcmcia support in this way made it impossible to use. (The what to do with old kernel headers problem needs to be spelled out, the issue of where to make the package needs to be spelled out) Not really trying to reinvent the wheel, trying to get the wheel on the ground for people like myself who know absolutely next to nothing about what they are doing in Linux, but who still need to do a couple of things before they start investing a lot of time in setting things up and customizing: rebuilding the kernel and learning how to do backups. And second these instructions need to be geared towards the individual user, not the corporate sysadmin. The instructions out there look like they are step by step to the old hands (I know how this works) but they really do not resolve doubts that occur between steps for the newbie. That is what I am trying to do with this, not trying to step on anyone's toes. You see your discussion of certain issues below makes no sense whatsoever to me and I believe it probably makes perfect sense. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Osamu Aoki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osamu Aoki Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Olds Subject: Re: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO Hi, Did you read make-kpkg documentation especially by Kent West? I think instead of reinventing wheel, suppliment existing good document as patch bug report. /usr/share/doc/make-kpkg/README.gz (last section is by Kent) For this, use unstable version. Also my Debian Reference has a (good) summary. Bug report is welcome. http://qref.sf.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html Lastly, are you aware of following facts (Content from recent post by prominent Debian person. I am worried about mine ...): * kernel header files for user application Some may still say: The problem under Debian and SuSE is that the Linux kernel is not installed under /usr/src/linux - so you just need to ensure that /usr/src/linux links to the directory containing the Linux kernel sources. ... Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That is absolutely terrible advice. It's a very good way to break a Debian system, and you should ignore it. Linus doesn't recommend this old way of doing things nowadays either. Instead, if you *need* kernel headers for something, alter the Makefiles so that their include path points to wherever-your-kernel-source-is/include/linux, etc. Most normal programs don't need kernel headers and in fact may break if you use them directly; instead they should be compiled against the headers with which glibc was built, which are the versions in /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm. END OF QUOTE --- Do not ask me but it looks like using /usr/src/linux seems to be bad idea. (OOps, I do that in 2nd classic method. Just do not compile any application, this may be OK.. I need to check why this is bad...) On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:19:48PM -0700, Michael Olds wrote: Hello, This is still a draft. This is a request for advanced users to take a look see and add comments or suggestions. The idea is a step by step instruction for Fresh New to Linux/Debian users, with the hope that they will be encouraged to attempt a rebuild of their kernel almost first thing after initial install. I use a technique which is a blend of using a file manager along with a terminal so I can see where I am at and yet do what I need to do in the terminal. This is a good way to work into using the terminal. !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (NOTE: we need a source for these as they are not created on a new install or by unpacking the kernel-source...and should they be in /usr/src/linux/ anyway): OOPs /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html This is good for using the make menuconfig method http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexre q=viewarticleartid=532 This is good for using the make xconfig method Bear in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so
RE: Kernel Panic was: System is too Big; son of make menuconfig
Thanks Russell and Torsten, Last night I did a re-install...not a huge loss in that this is still in the learning/setup phase...and all of this was in the service of setting up some kind of backup routine. Suggestion for the KDE folk, by the way: 1. Give us a way to use just the desktop without installing all the related programs...kate, konquoror, kword, konsole...in fact the whole Linux setup should be different as far as these desktop things are concerned...we should be being given a choice of desktop setups, then for the one we choose, a second set of choices as to what to include. I don't mean that the options are there, scattered around throughout the available packages, but that we should start with a dialog about what to include. 2. In KDE you can save a scheme, but it isn't saved for everyone and it should be. This is the thing that had me perplexed: while I did not use the original configuration as the basis for the kernel rebuild, I did follow it...if something was built in, I built it in, if something was a module, I made it a module...so it seems it must have been the --initrd option. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft
Russell, Torsten, et al: This is the method I have written up in my notes for a Debian Style Kernel Rebuild. My feeling after all this is that this is something that as hair raising as it might seem for beginners, should be one of the first things we learn, not to be delayed. It would be good if a step by step like this were made for recovering using the suggested recovery disk (including link to source) !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! 1. Download the latest kernel SOURCE package for your hardware architecture (i.e. PIII, 4, etc) (??what about these headers or is that only for the non-Debian way?) to /usr/src/linux/kernel/ (if no /usr/src/linux/kernel dir exists, make it) and unpack it. 2. Make sure bin86 lib6c-dev debianutils make bzip2 and kernel-package are installed. 3. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy configuration file to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory/ 4. # cd to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory # make menuconfig and make your selections 5. # make-kpkg clean # make-kpkg -revision=0001 --initrd kernel_image 6. A new kernel.version-0001_i386.deb will be placed in the /usr/src/linux directory (or one up from where the sources are held) 7. Install the new kernel using # dpkg -i kernel.~.deb !--\*#--#*\--! -Original Message- From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:53 AM To: Russell; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Kernel Panic was: System is too Big; son of make menuconfig Thanks Russell and Torsten, Last night I did a re-install...not a huge loss in that this is still in the learning/setup phase...and all of this was in the service of setting up some kind of backup routine. Suggestion for the KDE folk, by the way: 1. Give us a way to use just the desktop without installing all the related programs...kate, konquoror, kword, konsole...in fact the whole Linux setup should be different as far as these desktop things are concerned...we should be being given a choice of desktop setups, then for the one we choose, a second set of choices as to what to include. I don't mean that the options are there, scattered around throughout the available packages, but that we should start with a dialog about what to include. 2. In KDE you can save a scheme, but it isn't saved for everyone and it should be. This is the thing that had me perplexed: while I did not use the original configuration as the basis for the kernel rebuild, I did follow it...if something was built in, I built it in, if something was a module, I made it a module...so it seems it must have been the --initrd option. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .001
Russell, et al Still a draft! Please note questions and also corrected typo in 2 libc6 !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (/usr/src/linux/ and this documentation may not be present if you have not previously rebuilt your kernel; they come in the kernel source package you will need to begin): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html Bear in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so that future updates of the kernel can be made using dpkg. (I have stated this in these boldly confident terms not being sure that this is the essence at all...hoping for confirmation or education...mo) ---Step-by-Step--- [ ]1. Download the latest kernel to /usr/src/linux/kernel/ (if no /usr/src/linux/kernel dir exists, make it. Question: the kernel source package downloaded directly to /usr/src for me...is it safe to move the source tar.bz2 to /usr/src/linux (for order under src)? before unpacking it) and unpack it. [ ]2. Make sure [ ]bin86 [ ]libc6-dev [ ]debianutils [ ]make [ ]bzip2 and [ ]kernel-package are installed. [ ]3. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy configuration file to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory/ [ ]4. # cd to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory # make menuconfig and make your selections [ ]5. # make-kpkg clean # make-kpkg -revision=!--insert your own personal rebuild version number here: i.e.: -revision=0001) --initrd kernel_image [ ]6. A new kernel.version-0001_i386.deb will be placed in the /usr/src/linux directory (or one up from where the sources are held) [ ]7. Install the new kernel using # dpkg -i kernel.~.deb !--\*#--#*\--! -Original Message- From: Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 8:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft Michael Olds wrote: Russell, Torsten, et al: This is the method I have written up in my notes for a Debian Style Kernel Rebuild. My feeling after all this is that this is something that as hair raising as it might seem for beginners, should be one of the first things we learn, not to be delayed. It would be good if a step by step like this were made for recovering using the suggested recovery disk (including link to source) !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! 1. Download the latest kernel SOURCE package for your hardware architecture (i.e. PIII, 4, etc) (??what about these headers or is that only for the non-Debian way?) to /usr/src/linux/kernel/ (if no /usr/src/linux/kernel dir exists, make it) and unpack it. It's 'bad' to put things 2. Make sure bin86 lib6c-dev debianutils make bzip2 and kernel-package are installed. 3. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy configuration file to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory/ 4. # cd to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory # make menuconfig and make your selections 5. # make-kpkg clean # make-kpkg -revision=0001 --initrd kernel_image 6. A new kernel.version-0001_i386.deb will be placed in the /usr/src/linux directory (or one up from where the sources are held) 7. Install the new kernel using # dpkg -i kernel.~.deb !--\*#--#*\--! -Original Message- From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:53 AM To: Russell; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Kernel Panic was: System is too Big; son of make menuconfig Thanks Russell and Torsten, Last night I did a re-install...not a huge loss in that this is still in the learning/setup phase...and all of this was in the service of setting up some kind of backup routine. Suggestion for the KDE folk, by the way: 1. Give us a way to use just the desktop without installing all the related programs...kate, konquoror, kword, konsole...in fact the whole Linux setup should be different as far as these desktop things are concerned...we should be being given a choice of desktop setups, then for the one we choose, a second set of choices as to what to include. I don't mean that the options are there, scattered around throughout the available packages, but that we should start with a dialog about what
RE: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .002
Still a draft: Note: need sources for the Linux Documentation listed. Clarification needed: one source (sourceforge) does not mention a /usr/src/linux directory in it's method, the other source (linuxorbit) suggests using a /usr/src/linux directory and creating a symbolic link from /usr/src/kernel-source... to /usr/src/linux is this important, which is correct, are these two separate techniques, can one blend the techniques as I suggest here? !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (NOTE: we need a source for these as they are not created on a new install or by unpacking the kernel-source...and should they be in /usr/src/linux/ anyway): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html This is good for using the make menuconfig method http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexre q=viewarticleartid=532 This is good for using the make xconfig method Keep in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so that future updates of the kernel can be made using dpkg. (I have stated this in these boldly confident terms not being sure that this is the essence at all...hoping for confirmation or education...mo) ---Step-by-Step--- [ ]A. Before 1: Download and create a recovery floppy from: http://www.toms.net/rb/ [ ]1.a. Download the latest kernel source package (use a Debian source) to /usr/src (this is where it will be installed if you use dselect, a package manager, synaptic or aptitude) [ ]1.b. if no /usr/src/linux dir exists, make it $ cd /usr/src $ mkdir linux [ ]1.c. change directory to /usr/src and unpack the source package -- use the unpacking tools with your file manager, or: $ su #enter root password # cd /usr/src # tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2 (or latest) [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux # ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux [ ]2. Just to be professional: go to /etc/kernel.pkg.conf and modify the file by inserting your Kernel Source Maintainer Name and e-mail address. [ ]3. Make sure [ ]expectk if you want to use the user friendly: make xconfig [ ]debhelper [ ]modutils [ ]libncurses5-dev [ ]bin86 [ ]libc6-dev [ ]debianutils [ ]make [ ]bzip2 and [ ]kernel-package are installed. [ ]4. Remove PCMCIA support if not needed $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 # if this is your kernel source $ rm -rf */pcmcia # [OPTIONAL] if one wants to use modules from pcmcia-cs or no pcmcia (see NOTES below) [ ]5. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy old configuration file to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cp /boot/config-2.4.18-386 .config # get current config as default [ ]6. # cd to /usr/src/linux $ make menuconfig or make xconfig and make your selections To do this you need to have some familiarity with your hardware and what you are intending to use the system for. This you need to work out yourself. Once this is figured out, it might be helpful, on the first rebuild, to make your updates with reference to the original configuration, (called config-2.4.18bf24 (or your kernel version)) which you should find under /root using the M (module) option where a module was used and building the feature into the kernel (*) or [y] option where it was built into the kernel. Use the HELP option for brief explanations. This at least until you understand which can be safely changed under your setup. [ ]5.a. [ ]# make-kpkg clean [ ]# make-kpkg -revision=!--insert your own personal rebuild version number here: i.e.: -revision=0001) --initrd kernel_image (see NOTES below: do not use if you do not use). [ ]6. A new kernel.version-0001_i386.deb will be placed in the /usr/src directory [ ]7. Install the new kernel using # dpkg -i kernel.~.deb kernel-image-2.4.18_mydomain.0001_i386.deb [ ]8. Reboot ---Notes--- NOTES: make-kpkg kernel_image actually does make oldconfig and make dep. Do not use --initrd if initrd is not used. The current Debian initrd boot script requires a cramfs kernel patch, if you obtain kernel source from non-Debian archives; see http://bugs.debian.org/149236. One can avoid rm -rf */pcmcia by selecting General setup -- to PCMCIA/CardBus support
RE: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .001
Russel...noted and I will do a revision shortly...however I got as far as making the package with the --initrd option and managed to control my fingers long enough to read the caution about editing lilo at the end...so I have not installed my package. I am using ext3, and I am not sure if it was you, but someone this morning said I needed to go initrd. But I see my current setup using the bf24 kernel does not use initrd (or, at least it is not mentioned in lilo.conf and I can't find the image in /boot)(but the new kernel is not bf24 it is 2.4.18) But I do remember using it in the setup before the most recent install (very confused at this point). I am reading round that on a one-box system it shouldn't be needed...I do have SCSI support enabled (for scsi emulation) as a module. So the question is: do I need it, and if so, how do I go about getting it in there? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .001 Michael Olds wrote: Russell, et al Still a draft! Please note questions and also corrected typo in 2 libc6 !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (/usr/src/linux/ and this documentation may not be present if you have not previously rebuilt your kernel; they come in the kernel source package you will need to begin): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html Bear in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so that future updates of the kernel can be made using dpkg. (I have stated this in these boldly confident terms not being sure that this is the essence at all...hoping for confirmation or education...mo) The way that kernel headers are handled on a debian system may be different to other distros, so clarification would be worthwhile just to avoid confusion. ---Step-by-Step--- [ ]1. Download the latest kernel to /usr/src/linux/kernel/ (if no /usr/src/linux/kernel dir exists, make it. In the links above, Linus says it's bad to do builds in /usr/src, whereas i think the debian manual says to do it that way. An explanation for this would avoid confusion. Question: the kernel source package downloaded directly to /usr/src for me...is it safe to move the source tar.bz2 to /usr/src/linux (for order under src)? before unpacking it) and unpack it. I've been unpacking the source into /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 and symlinking /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18. That way, you can have multiple source trees in /usr/src and just change the /usr/src/linux symlink to the new tree. [ ]2. Make sure [ ]bin86 [ ]libc6-dev [ ]debianutils [ ]make [ ]bzip2 and [ ]kernel-package are installed. IIRC, don't use gcc 3.x, but something like gcc 2.95. [ ]3. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy configuration file to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory/ Don't think that's needed. [ ]4. # cd to /usr/src/linux/kernel_version_source_directory # make menuconfig and make your selections If you're using --initrd, make sure Compressed ROM file system support is built in, or you'll get a kernel panic (need CramFS). [ ]5. # make-kpkg clean # make-kpkg -revision=!--insert your own personal rebuild version number here: i.e.: -revision=0001) --initrd kernel_image If you don't want --initrd, leave out that option, and make sure /etc/lilo.conf doesn't have it either for that build. [ ]6. A new kernel.version-0001_i386.deb will be placed in the /usr/src/linux directory (or one up from where the sources are held) [ ]7. Install the new kernel using # dpkg -i kernel.~.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .003
Russell, et al, Third draft. A couple of questions asked below still remain: !--\*#-REBUILD KERNEL#*\--! References: read (NOTE: we need a source for these as they are not created on a new install or by unpacking the kernel-source...and should they be in /usr/src/linux/ anyway): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt /usr/src/linux/README /usr/src/linux/README.Debian http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html This is good for using the make menuconfig method http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/aut99/85321/Resources/Print_Resources/Textbo ok/chap13/ http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel+headers%22+linus+quotehl=enlr=ie =UTF-8start=10sa=N http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/#AEN334 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0587.html http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexre q=viewarticleartid=532 This is good for using the make xconfig method Bear in mind that debian does things a bit differently than other distros. What is that difference? In essence, in stead of reconfiguring the kernel and replacing it directly, the reconfigured kernel is made into a package (.deb) primarily so that the rebuild will remain integrated into the debian package system so that future updates of the kernel can be made using dpkg. (I have stated this in these boldly confident terms not being sure that this is the essence at all...hoping for confirmation or education...mo) R: The way that kernel headers are handled on a debian system may be different to other distros, so clarification would be worthwhile just to avoid confusion. Someone beside me needs to write this section. I am putting this together as I am learning it as it seems the only way I have motivation enough to help with some of the documentation gaps in Debian, but this is not to be understood as a claim to any kind of expertise! haha. ---Step-by-Step--- [ ]A. Before 1: Download and create a recovery floppy from: http://www.toms.net/rb/ [ ]1.a. Download the latest kernel source package (use a Debian source) to /usr/src (this is where it will be installed if you use dselect, a package manager, synaptic or aptitude). Best practices seem to indicate that the package be built outside of /usr/src so creating a sym-link from /linux to /usr/src/kernel~ as in step 1.d below seems to be the way to handle this. This way, you can have multiple source trees in /usr/src and just change the /usr/src/linux symlink to the new tree.) [ ]1.b. if no /usr/src/linux dir exists, make it $ cd /usr/src $ mkdir linux [ ]1.c. change directory to /usr/src and unpack the source package -- use the unpacking tools with your file manager, or: $ su #enter root password # cd /usr/src # tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2 (or latest) [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux # ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux [ ]2. Just to be professional: go to /etc/kernel.pkg.conf and modify the file by inserting your Kernel Source Maintainer Name and e-mail address. [ ]3. Make sure [ ]expectk if you want to use the user friendly: make xconfig [ ]debhelper [ ]modutils [ ]libncurses5-dev [ ]bin86 [ ]libc6-dev [ ]debianutils [ ]make [ ]bzip2 and [ ]kernel-package are installed. R Notes: don't use gcc 3.x, but something like gcc 2.95. Which I do not understand. Clarification? == REMOVING THIS STEP: This step breaks make xconfig for people who want to go that way. The Sourceforge method states: One can avoid rm -rf */pcmcia by selecting General setup -- to PCMCIA/CardBus support -- in make menuconfig and setting the configuration to PCMCIA/CardBus support (i.e., uncheck the box). Which I will keep in the NOTES section [ ]4. Remove PCMCIA support if not needed $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 # if this is your kernel source $ rm -rf */pcmcia # [OPTIONAL] if one wants to use modules from pcmcia-cs or no pcmcia (see NOTES below) [ ]5. (on 2nd and subsequent rebuilds) Copy old configuration file to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 $ cp /boot/config-2.4.18-386 .config # get current config as default R: notes (and the Sorceforge docs confirm) that this is not necessary as the script will pick up the oldconfig)...eliminating this step. == [ ]6. # cd to /usr/src/linux $ make menuconfig or make xconfig and make your selections To do this you need to have some familiarity with your hardware and what you are intending to use the system for. This you need to work out yourself. Once this is figured out, it might be helpful, on the first rebuild, to make your updates with
RE: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .001
Russell, Ok...I am going to remake my package...without initrd as I thought it not such a good idea to have my main file system as a module and so included it in the kernel. You say: Backup your HDD. Easy for you to say: I come from Windows where I press two buttons on Drive Image to backup my whole system. Here I have been working for a month just to try and set up so I can use partimage! Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .001 Michael Olds wrote: Russel...noted and I will do a revision shortly...however I got as far as making the package with the --initrd option and managed to control my fingers long enough to read the caution about editing lilo at the end...so I have not installed my package. I am using ext3, and I am not sure if it was you, but someone this morning said I needed to go initrd. But I see my current setup using the bf24 kernel does not use initrd (or, at least it is not mentioned in lilo.conf and I can't find the image in /boot)(but the new kernel is not bf24 it is 2.4.18) But I do remember using it in the setup before the most recent install (very confused at this point). I am reading round that on a one-box system it shouldn't be needed...I do have SCSI support enabled (for scsi emulation) as a module. So the question is: do I need it, and if so, how do I go about getting it in there? read: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html it says: mv /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/whatever name I have /usr/src/linux as a symlink to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 I'm using ext3, and you don't need initrd. IIRC, you only need initrd if your filesystem is a module and not compiled into the kernel, so at least CramFS needs to be built in if nothing else is. Backup your HDD. If you get a kernel panic because of lilo, you can usually still boot in using the downloaded debian rescue disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:backup script was Kernel Panic~
Russell, Thanks, I've been trying to get a grasp of this, I'm sure this will help! Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel Panic~: Rebuild Kernel: miniHOWTO draft .001 Michael Olds wrote: Russell, Ok...I am going to remake my package...without initrd as I thought it not such a good idea to have my main file system as a module and so included it in the kernel. You say: Backup your HDD. Easy for you to say: I come from Windows where I press two buttons on Drive Image to backup my whole system. Here I have been working for a month just to try and set up so I can use partimage! I learnt some bash scripting and made this to backup onto a removeable hard-disk (had some help from a previous poster on this group). Don't use it until you understand how it works and what it assumes. I use it from /root, and just type ./backup #!/bin/sh # Copy everything (almost) from the system to a backup removeable hard-disk # Assumptions: # The spare hard-disk has enough capacity # The spare disk is suitably partitioned and set up. # # The spare disk won't be bootable unless lilo is run separately, # which i haven't got around to doing yet # The backup /boot partition: HDD_BOOT=hdc1 # The backup root / partition: HDD_MAIN=hdc3 # Mount /boot partition if [ ! -d /mnt/bootpart ] then mkdir /mnt/bootpart fi if ! grep -qs /dev/$HDD_BOOT /proc/mounts then if ! mount -t ext2 /dev/$HDD_BOOT /mnt/bootpart then echo Removeable /dev/$HDD_BOOT not working exit 1 fi fi # Mount main partition if [ ! -d /mnt/mainpart ] then mkdir /mnt/mainpart fi if ! grep -qs /dev/$HDD_MAIN /proc/mounts then if ! mount -t ext2 /dev/$HDD_MAIN /mnt/mainpart then echo Removeable $HDD_MAIN not working exit 1 fi fi # Copy everything on main partition # Strip some top level directories we don't want to copy FILES=$( chroot / ls ) for i in $FILES do if [ -d /$i ] then echo Updating /$i else echo Updating $i fi case $i in boot) if ! rsync -a --delete /boot /mnt/bootpart then echo Failed to update /boot exit 1 fi;; cdrom) echo /$i | cpio -pdm /mnt/mainpart continue;; proc) echo /$i | cpio -pdm /mnt/mainpart continue;; floppy) echo /$i | cpio -pdm /mnt/mainpart continue;; mnt) echo /$i | cpio -pdm /mnt/mainpart continue;; esac if ! rsync -a --delete /$i /mnt/mainpart then echo Failed to update /$i exit 1 fi done echo System backup successful exit 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mount or disable devfs, was: inode missing
Mount or disable devfs? Device File System For a good discussion of devfs see: http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html#what-is-it In attempting to set up and run Partition Image, I got the message: Inode Missing /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc with an offer to create it. I contacted the PI board and asked: Can someone explain what this is and what it means and whether or not it is safe to allow PI to create the inodes? and was told: In your case not (safe). ext2/3 inode is almost like clusters in FAT file system. I think you enabled devfs support in kernel but you haven't mounted devfs partition into /dev. Partimage can't work in such situation. You'll have to remove devfs support from kernel or mount devfs in /dev. Cat your /proc/partitions file. If you read /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/partXXX you enabled devfs support. I have apparently enabled devfs support as I have a fair number of these listed, apparently one for each partition and extended partition. Now if you ls /dev and you only see hdaXX without ide subdirectory, you haven't mounted devfs in /dev. And I have no subdirectory /dev/ide So the questions to the Debian folk are: [As far as I can tell, this devfs thing is primarily of use to those with external devices such as scanners and so forth. I have only one external device connected to this computer: a printer.] What are the advantages/disadvantages in my situation? 1. Should I mount devfs? 2. If so: how do I go about mounting it? I have read some of the discussions, but they are generally on a higher level than my own. Is it the same as mounting any other device? Do I need to mount each (one for each partition) individually, or will mount /devfs mount what is need? If this is an advisable setup, can it be set up to happen automatically on boot? 3. If not: how do I go about removing devfs support? Is this going to require a Kernel Rebuild? 4. How did I get into this mess in the first place? i.e. What did I say yes to that I didn't need? A lot of questions; I am still reading, but I could use any thoughts anyone here has on the matter. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to install just one package from some other distro (likewoody)?
This is great, except that someone asking this question is obviously a very beginner, and will download the package and then, using a terminal, type in dpkg -i package.deb or even, maybe dpkg -i name_of_downloaded_package_etc.deb which will not help them. 1. Download the package 2. In a terminal: type: cd /directory where downloaded/filename.deb 3. Then type: dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb 4. When it tells you there are errors and it cannot be installed because of dependancies which are not met: go back to the download source and research the various other packages that are needed in order to make this package work. Try Sourceforge for a good resource in this connection. 5. Download all the packages on which your desired package is dependant...to the same directory as your package. 6. In a terminal: type: cd /directory where downloaded, etc 7. dpkg -i name_of_first.deb name_of_second.deb etc.deb 8. cross fingers -Original Message- From: Cristi Banciu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian User List Subject: Re: how to install just one package from some other distro (likewoody)? On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:08, J.S.Sahambi wrote: Hi I wanted to install avidemux but my apt-cache search avidemux did not give me anything. My sourses.lst file is: deb http://202.141.80.72/debian testing main non-free contrib deb http://202.141.80.72/debian-non-US testing/non-US main non-free contrib download package dpkg -i package.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache
Hello, Before I break down and ask for help again setting up email which I have thoroughly messed up once more...can someone explain to me why when I uninstall exim apache also gets uninstalled? I am using Synaptic as my front end for the package manager, and it is not too clear about what it intends to install or delete before it gets done (still I find it easier to use than dselect or aptitude). Thanks, Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache
Nevermind the direct answer to this, exim and apache share a couple of other packages that removing exim tries to remove. The real question is, why am I not being allowed to remove exim by itself? When I tell it to not remove the two packages needed for apache, it won't remove exim. Why should it care if exim is removed in broken condition? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Michael Olds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:17 PM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache Hello, Before I break down and ask for help again setting up email which I have thoroughly messed up once more...can someone explain to me why when I uninstall exim apache also gets uninstalled? I am using Synaptic as my front end for the package manager, and it is not too clear about what it intends to install or delete before it gets done (still I find it easier to use than dselect or aptitude). Thanks, Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NAV detected a virus in a document you authored
Several hundred members? Is that all? I feel much better about the list now. On the other hand only several hundred producing this much traffic? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Jamin W.Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NAV detected a virus in a document you authored You might want to consider not sending messages like this out, especially for viruses like the one found. The virus your application indicates it has found is known to spoof the sending address. So, you can be relatively certain if you got it, it didn't come from the address indicated as the sender. Thus, your notification is actually causing more harm than good. In this particular case, your notification was sent to a mailing list with several hundred subscribers. For more information about the virus listed below, see the following site: http://www.commandsoftware.com/virus/klez.html On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 19:06:17 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please contact your system administrator The scanned document was QUARANTINED. Virus Information: The attachment rock.exe contained the virus W32.Klez.H@mm and could NOT be repaired. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: File Manager Suggestions?
Something that works like Windows Explorer, with full details in the right hand window (permissions/users/groups). Actually Gentoo looks very good, if I can get the thing installed. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Steve Waterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:12 AM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Re: File Manager Suggestions? You're looking for a Windows Explorer replacement, right? The closest I have found is: http://www.amuletexplorer.com/ From the author's FAQ: What releases are available? Currently there is only a binary release for Linux and it's an early Beta. So it's not 'ready' yet, but it does look good. Steve On Wednesday 02 October 2002 15:52, Michael Olds wrote: Hello, I have tried Konquoror: I don't need, like a browser there and would rather not waste the space, but I like the two-window setup with tree view on one side and full details on the other side. I have tried Krusader: it freezes a couple of times a day when I work too fast and requires logout and logbackin to start working again, it displays permissions in a confusing way, and it doesn't display full details in the second window well. MC is ok and I use it in terminal mode, but I want a graphical version. Any suggestions? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions?
If you check out sourceforge under desktop file managers, I saw a few like this while I was checking out different possibilities. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Matt Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:15 AM To: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions? hey there, concerning file managers -- the one thing I really miss about Macos X is the NextStep-style file manager -- hierarchies of windowws that expand more or less indefiitely -- so not jus two frames, but four or five. I really love that way of getting around, but I haven't seen anything like it for Linux. Has anyone else? thanks loads, m On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:54:47AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Thursday 03 October 2002 08:18, Michael Olds wrote: Something that works like Windows Explorer, with full details in the right hand window (permissions/users/groups). Actually Gentoo looks very good, if I can get the thing installed. gentoo is packaged, just apt-get it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gentoo File Manager on Woody
Hello Gentoomen, I managed to download and and install the Gentoo File Manager and it's dependancies by way of: dpkg -i .deb .deb .deb etc thanks to one and all for the help on this. This first produced some errors but then went on to install and set up the various packages, closing with the note that some errors were encountered. Problem solved: There is a listing in the menu for Gentoo. Clicking on it produces some strenuous effort on the part of this icon to conjure the program which defeats the icon which then retreats in shame. No Gentoo File Manager. placing --root-ok on the execute line brings up the program. Problem: The Gentoo icon is UGLY! Question: I cannot see anyplace in the CONFIGURE dialog where the font size could be changed, it's too large. Question: I do not see an option for or a way to set up so that a double-click on a directory in the left hand pane brings up the directory contents in the right hand pane: is this possible, and if so how, and if not, this is a real defect. Question: I do not see how I can set my own choice of editor. I don't recognize what it is bringing up: I am talking about the default editor for when you double click a file, not the button that brings up a program...and I thought this would be managed by the system, not a file manager: i.e. through file associations, where I have specified Nedit for most text file types...but it is not using Nedit. Finally, if these problems cannot be solved, Konquoror seems a better choice for all round configurability on KDE Desktop at least, and in spite of including the browser. So the question is, what dangers do I face just uninstalling gentoo...considering the half dozen updated packages it installed over older versions? Can they just be left...are they backwards compatable...I have not noticed any problems on anything else. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Good morning Carel, Live on the East Coast? I use my W2KPro box as my workstation (On which I am reasonably competant -- I code html using TextPad which has no equal on Linux; and I watch the stockmarket using MetaStock charting), and I am reciving mail for this list on the Windows box. The two are separate machines linked to a USRobotics Router hooked to a static IP. The Windows box is linked to the Linux box only by ftp/telnet, and that is the way I am going to keep it (no SAMBA); in the end the Linux box will have a minimal work environment, but be primarily a server. The two machines both use the same keyboard, mouse, and monitor via KVM switch so back and forth is no big deal, but copying from the Linux box to the Windows box is still a hassle. Thank you again for your careful attention to this! I have followed your instructions and the output would indicate that Exim was running ok. (??) My output next to yours below: 1) On the linux box login as userme. X 2) To check if it's a normal mailbox or a directory or whatever, use: $ file /var/mail/userme X On my machine this looks like: $ file /var/mail/userme /var/mail/carel: ISO-8859 mail text, with very long lines On mine it was similar: /var/mail/userme ISO-8859 mail text but nothing else so it's in standard mbox format. If it were in maildir format, it would have been a directory and the output would likely look like: $ file /var/mail/userme /var/mail/carel: setgid directory Not this. 3) To see whether new mail arives, use: X $ du /var/mail/userme $ echo just testing | mail -s test userme $ du /var/mail/userme On my machine this looks like: $ du /var/mail/carel 132/var/mail/carel $ echo just testing | mail -s test carel $ du /var/mail/carel 136/var/mail/carel On mine it looks similar: $ du /var/mail/userme 712 /var/mail/userme $ du /var/mail/userme (no echo just testing | mail -s test userme) 712 /var/mail/userme 4) To look at the mail itself we need to know the format of the mail spool. in case it's in mbox format (see test 2), use: $ tail /var/mail/userme on my machie this looks like: $ tail /var/mail/cf id 17wiLZ-yt-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:11:21 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:11:21 +0200 just testing On mine it looks similar: id 17wj07-64-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] date... To: Subject: From: Date just testing If the above 4 steps yield similar results, then exim is definitely working as it should, and you can move on to fixing your email client setup. A few differences, I do not know if they are revealing of any problems. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Carel, Again thanks. I followed your instructions and all tests indicate Exim is up and running just fine. To finish this part of let's double check on ownership and protections. It should be like this: owner: userme group: mail protection: -rw-rw user: read, write group: read, write others: Checked. All are as above. If you want to be dead sure, you could rerun step 3, but instead of du /var/mail/userme now switch to du -b /var/mail/userme. And for added fun instead of just testing use some other odd string, like last call for alcohol so as to make it simpler to see with step 4 that it's really the newly sent message that's in your mail spool? Repeated steps 3 and 4 and got the message. So presuming the above few extra checks are okee, lets move on to step 6, and try to use a simple email client to look at your emails. 6) To look at the mail use (still loged in as userme): $ mail to quit this program press the q-key followed by the enter-key. On my machine this gives a screen full of output looking like: Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001. Type ? for help. /var/mail/carel: 26 messages 26 new N 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 01 22:02 120/8086 animus 2002... N 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 01 23:02 56/3295 animus 2002... N 19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 02 13:02 27/1225 animus 2002... N 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 02 13:11 205/12000 Anacron job... q Held 26 messages in /var/mail/carel Got a great long list of emails (how can I be being spammed already! I barely have the thing open an hour a day.) If this works, then the next thing to do is to choose an email client and we will help configuring it. Ok. Right now I have K-mail, but clearly something is wrong in spite of the fact that I have messed with the configurations many times, reinstalled, etc. I welcome any recommended e-mail client. I am used to, and happy with Outlook on W2K...which I why I liked the look and feel of Kmail. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup
Carel, OK, I got it. It was the permissions on the K-mail client program itself. It was root root for userme and root is set to receive no mail. ...now...on to POP3 configuration...I am using qpopper. I see the qpopper.conf in /etc/ but the package installed with no configuration dialog and the instructions say to configure using ./configure which I assume is from the install directory, only there is no install directory... ...or...any better suggestions for a POP3 server? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup
ok, I'll take your word for it, qpopper goes...exchanging q pop for I ma? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File Manager Suggestions?
Hello, I have tried Konquoror: I don't need, like a browser there and would rather not waste the space, but I like the two-window setup with tree view on one side and full details on the other side. I have tried Krusader: it freezes a couple of times a day when I work too fast and requires logout and logbackin to start working again, it displays permissions in a confusing way, and it doesn't display full details in the second window well. MC is ok and I use it in terminal mode, but I want a graphical version. Any suggestions? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup
Thanks Bob, I'll look into popa3d...I was going to go with an imap solution but I had second thoughts about having people's files on my server...I am only going to have a half dozen users and none of them need me for roaming access, so I think POP will do for me... ...now maybe you can get me out of another kettle of soup I got myself into: In trying to get a decent file manager, I listened to the advice of someone who recommended gentoo. It looks great, but it isn't in the stable Woody. So I downloaded and started to install it using dpkg --install .deb, but immediately ran into dependancy problems. Then progressing further, I actually think I managed to download all the dependancies needed, but I'm hung up in a catch 22: x depends on y so x will not be configured; y depends on x so y will not be configured. Now I have a half dozen packages sitting there unconfigured that won't configure and I cant sit or get off the can. I feel I should just get rid of the lot, but half of them are upgrades of current packages, and instead of removing the unconfigured new package, dpkg --remove xxx tries to remove the original...total madness at this point...what do I do just sit around with half loaded packages and wait for Debian to catch up? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bob Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:17 PM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Re: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:49:31AM -0700, Michael Olds wrote: Carel, OK, I got it. It was the permissions on the K-mail client program itself. It was root root for userme and root is set to receive no mail. ...now...on to POP3 configuration...I am using qpopper. I see the qpopper.conf in /etc/ but the package installed with no configuration dialog and the instructions say to configure using ./configure which I assume is from the install directory, only there is no install directory... Those instructions are from the original .tar.gz source. ./configure is used to create the Makefile prior to compiling the program. The source documentation is usually (?) installed as part of a Debian package, but since it is already compiled, you do not need to do this. There is probably something else in the documentation which describes what configuration you need to do, if any. Check the file listing dpkg -L qpopper and see what was installed. Check any man pages shown. ...or...any better suggestions for a POP3 server? I have used both qpopper and cucipop, but am currently running popa3d, which doesn't require any configuration and is both simple and secure. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup
John, No. I did them one at a time. I tried using -recursive, but that didn't get off the ground. I didn't know about listing them. What would you suggest concerning this situation, where half of an interdependant group are already half installed? Can you go back and tell it to install the bunch? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: John Hasler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:01 PM To: Debian. Org Subject: Re: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup Michael Olds wrote: Then progressing further, I actually think I managed to download all the dependancies needed, but I'm hung up in a catch 22: x depends on y so x will not be configured; y depends on x so y will not be configured. Now I have a half dozen packages sitting there unconfigured that won't configure and I cant sit or get off the can. Did you try 'dpkg --install u.deb v.deb w.deb x.deb y.deb z.deb' ? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Hello, Exim on Woody Trying again here, I posted on Friday afternoon and by Saturday I knew there wasn't a hope of my request for help being seen. At this point I have again run out of possible solutions: I have Exim set up. I believe it is set up properly as I used the defaults mostly. I can send mail from my Linux box, but I cannot receive mail, either internally or from the outside. The log indicates that mail is being received and is being delivered no errors. I am using the Kmail e-mail client, which I have uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times just to check. If there is a better client I am listening. I am sure this is something silly, like permissions, but I do not know where to look next for the solution. As far as I can tell the relevant directories and files are user me and group mail, not sure if it is correct or safe, but also with read, write, and execute for both. Anyone have an idea as to what I should dig into next to get this up? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Carel, No problem replying off list, and thank you for replying, period, I have two machines one Windows 2000 Pro and one Linux. I will answer your questions, below your questions below: X== [ sorry for sending this offlist too, but as you have email problems I'm not sure list trafic will reach you. If it does, pray tell and I wil adjust ] I have Exim set up. I believe it is set up properly as I used the defaults mostly. I can send mail from my Linux box, but I cannot receive mail, either internally or from the outside. The log indicates that mail is being so it isn't set up properly:) For starters, we need some more info. You say you've used the defaults during exim install/setup. Did you choose the Internet site or Satellite or... So Internet or what was the #1 choice. X== The next question is, how much do you need/want your machine to do:) I normally prefer to have an ISP take care of all delivery and receiving problems, but others really want to run their own full blown mail server. In general what I am aiming to do is to get to the point where I have a self sufficient setup running off my DSL line. I have a very low traffic site plus one test site and one personal site, and will have only a few e-mail addresses to service. My DNS service is being handled by VeriSign, and I am only working with the test site and the personal site, BuddhaDust is being handled by a hosting service. When I get the rest set up and running I will take DNS on as well...right now I can use one less problem. X== received and is being delivered no errors. I am using the Kmail e-mail client, which I have uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times just to check. If there is a better client I am listening. I am sure this is The email client just hands it over to a email server, and depending on your configuration of your email client that could well be your IPS's mail server. To shortcircuit such debugging fun, you could try to use mail (install mailutils or mailx if you're missing this one) like this: # to check the mail gets delivered open a log window and enter your passwd $ xterm -e su - root tail -f /var/log/exim/*log # send a mail from and to your normal non root login $ echo just testing | mail -s test $USER # look at the log window, this should look like: == /var/log/exim/paniclog == == /var/log/exim/rejectlog == == /var/log/exim/mainlog == 2002-10-02 02:20:10 17wXFK-0005dU-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=carel P=local S=319 2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=schaduw.felnet [192.168.1.1] 2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 Completed Little confusion here, but it comes down to the fact that the log reads as does your last entry here. I am talking about when I send mail from the Windows machine to the Linux box, the linux box is recording such entries in /var/log/exim/mainlog and similar entries for mail being sent from root to userme. I am just not able to get them to show up in my email client. Again, I can send from Linux to the Windows box no problem. X== something silly, like permissions, but I do not know where to look next for the solution. As far as I can tell the relevant directories and files are user me and group mail, not sure if it is correct or safe, but also with read, write, and execute for both. I'm not sure what files you're talking here, but I sure hope your not refering to e.g. files in /etc? in /etc/exim I have permissions for /etc/exim/ user root rwe; group mail re (is it Debian or Krusader that gives permissions in terms of show entries write entries enter why not use the numbers, or the usual rwx?) for /etc/exim/exim.conf user root rw; group root r for /home/userme/mail user me rwe group mail rwe for /var/mail/userme user root rwe group mail rwe set Gid others re sticky (?) Again, thanks, Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Stephen, Thank you for this reply. Answers to your questions below your questions: -Original Message- From: Stephen Gran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:16 PM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Re: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail) This one time, at band camp, Michael Olds said: Hello, Exim on Woody Trying again here, I posted on Friday afternoon and by Saturday I knew there wasn't a hope of my request for help being seen. At this point I have again run out of possible solutions: I have Exim set up. I believe it is set up properly as I used the defaults mostly. I can send mail from my Linux box, but I cannot receive mail, either internally or from the outside. The log indicates that mail is being received and is being delivered no errors. I am using the Kmail e-mail client, which I have uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times just to check. If there is a better client I am listening. I am sure this is something silly, like permissions, but I do not know where to look next for the solution. As far as I can tell the relevant directories and files are user me and group mail, not sure if it is correct or safe, but also with read, write, and execute for both. Anyone have an idea as to what I should dig into next to get this up? OK, if you have a default Debian install, exim installs mail into /var/mail/$USER, and /var/spool/mail is a symlink to /var/mail. ls -l /var/mail/$USER will tell you if there's any mail there (if it has a nonzero size, you do.) If there's mail there, then the problem is the setup of your mail clients in reading it. All of the mail clients (AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong) can be made to read from the mail spool. ls -1 /var/mail/$USER gives me /var/mail/userme and that is all. the file itself if 700kb which isn't zero. === If you can send mail, exim is probably working - it's job is SMTP only. exim (or postfix/sendmail, etc) do not _retrieve_ mail. You will only get mail sent to you by local jobs (cron, etc) or other users on your box, unless this box is also the MX in the DNS for your domain. I don't have any details of your setup, but if this is a standard workstation install, without a domain name attached to it, this doesn't seem likely. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, and fill in other details as you think necessary. I can send mail out. Are you saying exim does not process the mail that is received? ( don't mean retrieve it as with an email client, but put it in /var/mail/$USER ? In any case yes this box is the MX in the DNS for this domain, and one other...fully qualified, registered and, again, apparently working because I just sent me an email from the Windows box and the /var/log/exim/mainlog recorded it completed === The thread got drowned in the weekend traffic. I was having this same problem with Sendmail. When I uninstalled sendmail, it boinked Apache (don't ask me how), re-installing Apache installed Exim, so I thought I would give it a try...about brings you up to date. I missed where this thread started, but you make reference to sendmail. I don't know sendmail that well (does anybody? (^8 ), but I do get the gist at least of exim, and I'll help with what I can. === Steve -- To see a need and wait to be asked, is to already refuse. These two are hard to find in the world: one who offers and one who is grateful. -SGS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Stephen, These are the settings I have in Kmail (I have tried multiple variations) name: userme location: /var/mail/userme checked: Procmail locfile /var/mail/userme.lock I also tried: location: /home/userme/Mail and Mail/ nada Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Hello, now Stephen and Carel,
I checked again and /var/mai/userme is user userme group mail
the settings for /etc/exim/exim.conf are:
Local_delivery
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
By the way: I have a /var_mail partition; is using that as simple as
changing the file = ?
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Shyamal, Thank you for responding, I am really not Up and Running yet, and since we are talking about the likelyhood of my box being badly configured, I would rather not post the DNS name yet (and I keep the thing off-line 99% of the time anyway), no offense please! I am reasonably sure they are set up correctly as I was talked through it by the tech support person at VeriSign. In the many different things I have done I did do one Telnet to the server from the Windows box which passed the test...in a couple of the previous messages on this I did check the /var/log/exim/mainlog and it looked to me like I was getting mail. -Original Message- From: Shyamal Prasad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:46 PM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Re: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail) Michael == Michael Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Anyone have an idea as to what I should dig into next to Michael get this up? Hi Mike, Could you share the DNS name used for the MX record with us (i.e the world known email address served by this exim host)? If you'd prefer not to just say so, but since it is your *email* address I figure it's okay to tell it to the world ;-) Can you telnet to your exim server on the smtp port and send a mail to yourself? If you believe you are not receiving mail, look in your log files (/var/log/exim/mainlog) when you send yourself mail - what do you see? One other thing: I noticed the word 'smarthost' in the log file entries you posted on this. Does you use a smarthost or not? I think you were looking at Stephen's sample bit of log: the only bit I have posted for a recent mail is this (but no, I do not use a SmartHost): == /var/log/exim/mainlog == 2002-10-02 02:20:10 17wXFK-0005dU-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=carel P=local S=319 2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=schaduw.felnet [192.168.1.1] 2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 Completed Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)
Carel, ls -1 /var/mail/userme ~userme/mail gives me a list of what is in /home/userme/Mail nothing like a number indicating how many mails, etc. Same same when i do ls -1 /var/mail/userme /home/userme/Mail and ls -1 /var/mail/userme /var/mail/userme I was mistaken about the permissions for /var/mail/userme they were user userme group mail. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting up Sendmail
Thanks for this Oliver, however I think the setup is too different to apply to my situation: DSL always on, DNS servers running. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Oliver Fuchs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Setting up Sendmail Sorry, it has to mailq. Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang-bang fruit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can not acces ide cdrom
Hey Bob, a Re: Bob? I just went through this recently, so I hope I remember this correctly: the device you want to operate as a CDROM needs to point to the SCSI device. In /dev/ make /dev/CDROM a symlink to scd0 -Original Message- From: bob parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can not acces ide cdrom I am using Debian 3.0.0. I installed it with a 2.2.20 kernel which did not have scsi support. I later installed the 2.4.18 kernel and got support for my scsi cd burner but I have lost ability to read my ide cdrom. Here is my fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda8 / ext2errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda7 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 My cdrom mount points debian:/home/bob# ls -l /cdrom*/ /cdrom/: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Sep 28 23:35 cdrom0 - /cdrom0 /cdrom0/: total 0 /cdrom1/: total 0 my /dev/cdroms debian:/home/bob# ls -l /dev/cdrom* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom - /dev/cdrom0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom0 - /dev/scd0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom1 - /dev/scd1 How do I regain access to my ide cdrom? Thanks bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can not acces ide cdrom
Bob, Sorry, I think I misunderstood your situation. You have a CDROM and a CDRW. Your CDRW is actually a real SCSI device? I was thinking it was scsi emulation. If I understand this now, the ide CDROM should NOT be being pointed to the scd0 or anything else but itself. (You may actually have implimented scsi emulation for the CDROM, which could be another cause of this problem.) If I have again misunderstood, and you are speaking about two ide devices (one ide CDROM and one ide CDRW with scsi emulation) you need to link the CDROM to the scd0...I would think directly not via the CDRW...and also as just posted, check permissions. Next up you need a more experienced advisor. If you are speaking about one ide CDRW with scsi emulation then it needs to be linked to the scd and there should not be a second device in /dev ... just /dev/CDROM pointing to scd0. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: bob parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:33 AM To: Michael Olds Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can not acces ide cdrom On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:59, you wrote: Hey Bob, a Re: Bob? I just went through this recently, so I hope I remember this correctly: the device you want to operate as a CDROM needs to point to the SCSI device. In /dev/ make /dev/CDROM a symlink to scd0 It already is indirectly, ie /dev/cdrom symlinks to /dev/cdrom0 which symlinks to /dev/scd0. Reading from the scsi device is ok. It is the ide device that got lost. What I'm not clear on is whether I need to have the /dev/cdrom1 linked to /dev/sc1 as it now is or /dev/hdb as it is ide. Cheers bob -Original Message- From: bob parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can not acces ide cdrom I am using Debian 3.0.0. I installed it with a 2.2.20 kernel which did not have scsi support. I later installed the 2.4.18 kernel and got support for my scsi cd burner but I have lost ability to read my ide cdrom. Here is my fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda8 / ext2errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda7 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 My cdrom mount points debian:/home/bob# ls -l /cdrom*/ /cdrom/: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Sep 28 23:35 cdrom0 - /cdrom0 /cdrom0/: total 0 /cdrom1/: total 0 my /dev/cdroms debian:/home/bob# ls -l /dev/cdrom* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom - /dev/cdrom0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom0 - /dev/scd0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom1 - /dev/scd1 How do I regain access to my ide cdrom? Thanks bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting up exim: was Setting up Sendmail
Hello, Not because I gave up on Sendmail, but because of another problem (for some reason (I believe it had to do with uninstalling Sendmail which I did in order to start from scratch and install the package from source) when I shut down and restarted, Apache was unavailable, all the files are in place, but it is listed as not installed and doesn't work. apachectl start would get no sucha commandment...anyway, to fix the Apache problem I reinstalled, reinstalling installed exim...so I thought I would give it a spin...). But here I am in the same situation: I can send mail outside, but I cannot receive mail from outside or internally. The error log reads: date refused relay (host) to ~internal@~ from ~external@~ and one from local to local In other words, from my little understanding: the mail is getting to me, but it isn't being distributed. In other words, no problem at the DNS level or at the router, some problem either with exim config or in my Debian/linux setup. I am not sure if my Sendmail problems were caused in the same way, if so, the problem is with my Debian/Linux setup. I have read a couple of books and looked on the exim site with no joy. I have the following in exim.conf local_domains = listed:all:variations domain:domain.net:mail.domain.net I added: hosts_treat_as_local = all the above listed here as well relay_domains = all the above listed here as well NOT UNCOMMENTED: RELAY_DOMAINS_INCLUDE_LOCAL_MX = TRUE host_lookup = * host_auth_accept_relay = * (none set up) I also listed all the domains and variations of the names in /etc/hosts_allow ALL: domain ALL: domain.net and so forth one per line; did not do anything with hosts_deny Any pointers? Any and all help appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting up Sendmail
Hello again, Woody. Can send but not receive mail. I checked with my DNS server and I believe it is set up properly. This seems to be the problem: in var/log/mail/mail.err No local mailer defined QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set and /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.errors /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/proto.m4:232:M4 Cannot open /usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/.m4 No such file or directory Well, it's no such file. And I did not see it hanging around in any other of the likely spots either. I have a little investment in effort here is why I am hanging in and not switching right off to the much recommended exim or postfix; but all I need to be told to make the switch is that these are not my problems with comprehension, but that the Sendmail program is buggy...anyone care to take a shot? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting up Sendmail
Alvin, Thank you for this response. First problem is: I do not have an /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file (I do have a local-host-names file with no extension); and I do not have an /etc/mail/access file or an /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file For these I think the problem is as is stated in the mail just previous to this: sendmailconfig cannot find /usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/.m4 because it isn't there. I checked out the site you recommended this morning, and read a few things, but it seems more directed towards securing a running system than getting a system running to begin with...or did I miss a link? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:55 PM To: Michael Olds Cc: Oliver Fuchs; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Setting up Sendmail hi ya to receive email cd /etc/mail ln -s local-host-names sendmail.cw - be sure your domain is listed in the file make sendmail - stop/start for popping email stuff... - make sure you can telnet localhost 110 - than you should use secure pop3 instead of port 110 http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/secure_pop3.txt sendmail howto http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/sendmail.gwif.html c ya alvin /etc/mail/access # # list of domains/ip# this mschine will be relaying emails # foo.com # # tou local lan 192.168.0.0 # # /etc/sendmail.cw and/or /etc/mail/sendmail.cw # # list of domains tyhis machine will be receiving emails # foo.com www.foo.com # On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote: Hello again, First, thanks to all who responded with suggestions. I'm still working on Sendmail. I have it working half way following Oliver's suggestions ...I can send, but I am not receiving anything, either locally or over the Internet. I figure it can be the settings at my DNS server, the router's firewall (don't think so), a sendmail configuration I'm missing...(?, I have SMTP and local, so it must be one of the exotic ones set up by Debian), or I just don't have my Kmail mail client set up right (ashamed to say it, I can configure Windows Outlook accounts, but I have no idea what I should be telling the Linux machine about loading mail to local/remote users). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: debian menu in kde
Not a direct answer, but a help: by using SystemAppfinder you can make the KDE menu include many programs it does not include in the default state. I also wonder what is going on in the mind's of the developers: if you're going to have an application and services menu, why not put everything in it? Or at least give us a way to do that. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Jason Pepas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: debian menu in kde where can I read up on the internal workings of the kde menu system? I would like to figure out how to get it to use the standard debian menu system (kde 2.2.2 does its own thing). -jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Konqueror slowness
If it helps your case, I had a similar problem. My solution was to take out Konquoror and use Krusader instead using Mozilla for the browser. In fact I have strip't out most of KDE from KDE (strip't everything out of Mozilla except the browser as well). I like the customization of what I would call the Desktop, Kmail, the Control Center and that's about it. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Stephan Hachinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:13 PM To: Mark Roach; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Konqueror slowness Hi! I have absolutely the same problem, although my kdebase and -libs are self-compiled... I'm already talking about this with Dirk Mueller, one of the kde team. If you don't bother, I'll forward your problem report to him. Regards, Stephan On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:30:50 -0500 Mark Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Konqueror takes an extremely long time to load pages on my system compared to mozilla/galeon. Has anyone had a similar problem? I went to theregister in konq and then while it was loading, I lanched galeon, loaded the site and came back and started typing this before konqueror loaded the site (~17 seconds just for the main content area showed up). Reload takes roughly the same amount of time. I don't remember that having been the case in the past, and couldn't find anyone else reporting this problem (everyone always talks about konq being fast). Any thoughts on what I might have done to upset it? I am using the 3.0.3 debs from the kde site. -Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting up Sendmail
Hello, Woody. I am having some difficulty getting Sendmail up and running. I installed the program apparently with no problems. I ran: sendmailconfig after the install, also apparently no problems, no errors reported. But nothing works either. So I looked in /etc/mail/ and there is no sendmail.cf so I tried running sendmailconfig again and it asked if it should configure using the existing sendmail .conf and I said yes. And it reported there was no /usr/sbin/update_conf which there isn't as it's in /usr/share/sendmail/ (Question one: could I just move it to where it wants?) There is no existing sendmail.conf in /etc/mail/ either. When I tried to create a sendmail.cf using: cd /etc/mail m4 /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 I first got a permission denied and saw that the files in /m4/ were all marked non executable. I marked them executable but I am not sure if that was the right thing to do. I re-ran m4 etc and got this error message: NONE:0:m4: ERROR: EOF in string I tried looking up EOF (?end of file?) on Google where there are many references and no explanations. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the program several times and I always end up at this spot. Does anyone know how I get out of this? Thanks in advance, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting up Sendmail
Well I'm listening. If I can't get it set up reasonably soon I will probably go with Exim. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bob Proulx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Setting up Sendmail Michael Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 20:02:54 -0700]: I am having some difficulty getting Sendmail up and running. I know that Sendmail has been the workhorse of the Internet for many years. I have configured Sendmail cf files by hand for years and loved the recent m4 configuration. I am just saying that so you will know this recommendation comes from someone who has spent much time with sendmail and still thinks favorably of it. But it has been passed on both sides by other programs. You will probably get a hundred replies to the effect that everyone recommends that you run either Exim or Postfix. Either are high quality mailers. I prefer Postfix. It is table driven and very easy to configure. apt-get install postfix Or you could go with Exim, another fine program. You will find a lot of Exim users on this list and can be certain of good user support for it here. apt-get install exim Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ide-scsi
Alan, try rmmod [option] modules System administration command. Unload a module or list of modules from the kernel. This command is successful only if the specified modules are not in use and no other modules are dependent on them. Can you tell us what message you are getting that makes you think this is loaded or interfering with what you want to do? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Alan Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ide-scsi On Friday 20 September 2002 7:33 pm, Amir Tal wrote: On Friday 20 September 2002 21:26, Alan Chandler wrote: Can someone explain how ide-scsi gets loaded? I have done grep -r ide-scsi * on /etc and its not reported (and therefore in particular /etc/modules or /etc/modutils have no reference to it). ... make sure there is no entry for it in /etc/modules.conf. I already said I could find no entry there:-( also check that its not preloading in lilo (should look something like : append = hdd=ide-scsi) Nothing in /etc/lilo.conf either (thats why I did a grep on all of etc - I figured at least one of the config files must load it - but nothing.) -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help needed setting up CDRW
the directions for using Modutls. I did not see anywhere where it looked like I should add the suggested options lines: options ide=cd ignore=hdc alias scd0 sr_mod pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd --X-- Direct answers below: Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Christoph Claus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:16 AM To: Michael Olds Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW --X-- Question: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto0 0 remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Do you have an extra cd-rom? Then this is correct. No, I have only the one CD Drive. --X-- When I run cdrecord I get the following message: Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed? What did you give cdrecord as dev= argument? It needs to be the (pseudo)scsi-device with bus,target,lun e.g. dev=0,0,0 Apologies: this was not cdrecord, this was kreateCD, which uses CD record. --X-- When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get: No such file or directory. Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new partition, I set up a directory under / named cdrw but that did not solve the problem. --X-- Did you really load all necessary modules? Can you post the ide- and scsi-section of your /boot/config-2.4.18? Are the appropriate entries in /dev present? Especially /dev/sg*? The output looks like missing /dev entries. See above, I apparently do not have all the modules, but they are not available from modconf --X-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help needed setting up CDRW
Bob, Thank you for this response. I am still very new at Linux and have hesitated doing a kernel rebuild, but that is on the list...I just want to get a way to do a backup so that when something goes wrong I won't have to start from scratch ... I'm on about the 15th install and it's getting tiresome! I am using Synaptic as my package management tool, and I think I can handle a kernel update, but the question is, has been, I am using ext3 as my filesystem, do the other kernels besides bf support this file system type? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: Bob Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:12 AM To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org Subject: Re: Help needed setting up CDRW On Wednesday 18 September 2002 08:53, Michael Olds wrote: This boils down to two problems: if a module is missing, where can I get it? I did a Google search and there are a zillion references to the missing modules but no mention of where they can be found. And Second, what is the procedure for editing /etc/modules.conf using the new modutls tool? Here is the previous message...and, again thanks for many suggested avenues of inquiry. However I am at an impass. I will try to update the situation completely here while answering the questions of those who asked for more information. IIRC, the bf kernels do not include the modules you're missing. I'm using kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 (from woody) which does include them. It was fairly painless for me to install the new kernel using apt-get. If you wish, you can also build your own kernel to include the missing modules. bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help needed setting up CDRW
Bob et al, OK I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.18-686 which went smoothly except that this kernel uses something called initrd, which I opted out of the first go round for some reason I can't remember. Needed to add a line to /etc/lilo.conf 'initrd=/initrd.img' and one to /etc/kernel-img.conf which does not exist (didn't cause a problem, but I apparently will get some kind of warning message about using initrd every time I upgrade the kernel) I then used xcdroast to select a directory and copy it to a cd which is what I wanted the cd for in the first place (backup, and hopefully restore). This also seemed to go smoothly. However to read the CDROM I needed to make a change to /dev/cdrom: cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s scd0 cdrom which changed it to a link to the scsi device. I deleted the line for /dev/scd0 etc in fstab without any apparent problems; I left the line in /etc/lilo.conf append=scd=scsi-ide; I deleted the CDRW directory under / that I had created as an experiment; all the required mods now appear to be present and accounted for cdrecord -scanbus now gives me: scsibus0 0,0,0, 0)SONY 'CDRW CRX185e1' 'XYS2' Removable CD-Rom which is what I think it is supposed to show. The only problem that remains is that trying to make a CD with kreatecd it just sits there, but if this does not look like some kind of hidden problem, I think I will just remove this program and use xcdroast. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting-up CDRW
Oops! I see I resonded only to Bob: Hello, and thank you all for these clues. This is just to let you know that I can't get to this until later this afternoon. I will report back with results. -Original Message- From: Bob Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW I just did this again last evening on a new machine and it was loads easier than i remembered it being. I'm using kernel 2.4.19-k7 with both an ide cdrom and an ide-scsi cdrw. i added this line to /etc/fstab: /dev/scd0 /cdrw iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0 my /etc/modules includes this: options ide-cd ignore=hdd ide-scsi hth bob On Tuesday 17 September 2002 07:50, Burkhard Ritter wrote: hello. i suppose that your scsi/emulation stuff is not set up correctly. have you really loaded all neccessary modules (have a look again at the cdwriting howto section 2.1.3; - ide-cd,ide-scsi,scsi_mod,sr_mod,sg)? if that is the case cdrecord -scanbus should definitely work (it has nothing to do with your fstab stuff). On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote: Requesting Help Setting-up CDRW --- I had this same hardware setup running under RH7.3 Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM Debian: 2.4.18-bf2.4 the SCSI emulation module was installed during the initial setup, and lsmod returned: ide-scsi used 0 (Does the used 0 mean anything?) --- /etc/lilo.conf edited to insert: append=hdc=ide-scsi on line 104 above #Boot up Linux by default. # default=Linux ran lilo -v with no errors reported --- /etc/fstab edited to insert: /dev/sc0/mnt/cdrw iso9660 ro,user,noauto0 0 (also tried /dev/scd0 and for mount point: /cdrw having created a directory there) Question: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto0 0 remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Or should this be removed or linked to /dev/sco...and if the latter, is this the right way: dev/cdrom /cdrw --- When I run cdrecord I get the following message: Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed? My answer is yes, but it does not inform the novice user as to how to get there. --- When I run xcdroast I get: Failed to scan the SCSI-bus...you have to install the SCSI emulation first, Please see the CD -Writing HOW TO how to do that. Well I did that and I thought that was what I had done above. --- When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get: No such file or directory. (Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new partition, I set up a directory under / named cdrw but that did not solve the problem. --- Variations on the theme are rebooting after every change -- I have spent several days on this and have read the relevant sections in O'R. Running Linux; Hunger, D.G.L. Bible, and the CDRW HOW TO, as well as having searched Google Linux and read half a dozen forums and list archives. There is a great deal of contradictory information out there, even cocerning the setup for Debian. Most of the information is also very old. How is it possible that this is not something that is set up to at least be an option at initial setup on Linux? What individual today setting up Linux does not have a CDRW? Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: latest msttcorefonts broken?
I just checked MS yesterday on this and they no longer offer this download. Doing the upgrade may have deleted or renamed your old font package. In any case this needs to be fixed in the packages that depend on it. Best Wishes! Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DvB Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:24 PM To: Debian-User Subject: latest msttcorefonts broken? I ran an apt-get upgrade a while back, which upgraded my msttcorefonts package. Ever since then mozilla, which I had configured to use the monotype-arial-iso8859-1 fontset from that package keeps printing the following error message over and over (but doesn't appear to be causing any other problems), even after I reset the fonts to the default values: The font -*-*-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-*-* -*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-* does not support all the required character sets for the current locale C (Missing character set ISO8859-1) Any ideas as to how I might fix this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting-up CDRW
12:16 AM To: Michael Olds Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW --X-- Question: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto0 0 remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Do you have an extra cd-rom? Then this is correct. No, I have only the one CD Drive. --X-- When I run cdrecord I get the following message: Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed? What did you give cdrecord as dev= argument? It needs to be the (pseudo)scsi-device with bus,target,lun e.g. dev=0,0,0 Apologies: this was not cdrecord, this was kreateCD, which uses CD record. --X-- When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get: No such file or directory. Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new partition, I set up a directory under / named cdrw but that did not solve the problem. --X-- Did you really load all necessary modules? Can you post the ide- and scsi-section of your /boot/config-2.4.18? Are the appropriate entries in /dev present? Especially /dev/sg*? The output looks like missing /dev entries. See above, I apparently do not have all the modules, but they are not available from modconf --X-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
