Ente Auth
Thanks very much for your reply, Jeremy. I have now installed ente-auth on my Debian Bullseye desktop PC. I downloaded ente-auth-v2.0.50-x86_64.deb from GitHub. I then installed it using apt install. I found ente_auth@ in both /bin and /usr/bin I thought I needed to run this in order to launch ente-auth, so typed ente_auth@ but my system said the command could not be found. Any suggestion as to what I am doing wrong, please ?
Alternative to Authy
Now that Authy is no more, I am looking for a suitable replacement. I have a Debian Bullseye desktop PC, using a CLI interface rather than a desktop interface. Can anyone help with this, please ? I also need to replace Authy on a Windows 11 laptop, so it would help if any suggestion could cope with Windows as well as Debian. Thanks very much. Mike
Hardware Error Messages
I have a Desktop PC running Debian 11. A few days ago I found the following error messages on an xterm window running in the background :- Message from syslogd@piglit at Sep 28 09:44:25 ... kernel:[51369.604961] [Hardware Error]: Deferred error, no action required. Message from syslogd@piglit at Sep 28 09:44:25 ... kernel:[51369.604965] [Hardware Error]: CPU:1 (19:21:2) MC27_STATUS[Over|-|-|-|PCC|SyndV|UECC|Deferred|Poison|Scrub]: 0xd3edbbfde0a1894c Message from syslogd@piglit at Sep 28 09:44:25 ... kernel:[51369.604969] [Hardware Error]: IPID: 0x, Syndrome: 0x Message from syslogd@piglit at Sep 28 09:44:25 ... kernel:[51369.604970] [Hardware Error]: Power, Interrupts, etc. Ext. Error Code: 33 Message from syslogd@piglit at Sep 28 09:44:25 ... kernel:[51369.604971] [Hardware Error]: cache level: RESV, tx: RESV Can any helpful information be obtained from them or are they high level pretty meaningless messages ? Does Debian have any way of trapping low level hardware Error Messages ?
Clock Icon
I have a clock icon on my desktop PC which opens on reboot and then remains on the top right of the screen all the time. However, for some reason it has moved (not sure how this happened) and is now in the middle of the screen under my browser windows (so not visible). I would like to move the clock, but can't seem to move it with my mouse - none of the buttons when pressed and held down move it and right clicking doesn't do anything either. Can anyone help, please ?
Migrating from hard drives to SSDs
I am thinking of changing my storage from two 1TB hard drives in a software RAID 1 configuration to two M.2 Nvme 1 TB SSDs. The two SSDs would be put into a software RAID 1 configuration. Currently each hard drive contains both the operating system and user data. What steps would you recommend to achieve the above result and would those steps be the quickest way ? One of the M.2 slots can operate at PCIe 4.0 and PCIe 3.0, while the other slot can only operate at PCIe 3.0. If they are to be in a RAID 1 array, I guess that both slots should be operated at PCIe 3.0 speed.
Re: Corrupt root filesystem
On 20:30, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Reco > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 06:26:28PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > > The error messages were of the form :- > > > > "/dev/mapper/vgpcname-root contains a file system with errors, check > > forced. > >Inodes that were a part of a corrupted orphan linked lost found. > >/dev/mapper/vgpcname-root : UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck > > manually.(i.e ., > >without -a or -p options). fsck exited with status code 4. The root > >filesystem on /dev/mapper/vgpcname-root requires a manual fsck > > > > There is then a flashing prompt after "(initramfs)". > > So, first things first, it's not "before reboot". > It's "during the boot". And note that initramfs ran fsck, but it failed. > > Second, yes, that particular filesystem is indeed required fsck. > > > > The following command was thus run :- > > sudo fsck -y /dev/mapper/vgpcname-root > > The PC could then be rebooted. > > You've got it wrong here again. > During initramfs stage root filesystem is mounted readonly. > This allows it to be checked by fsck, without causing an additional > damage. > And, since it's a root filesystem, it's *required* to reboot after the > fsck. > > > > The file system is ext4. > > Thanks. It's a rare sight these days that people actually answer all the > questions they're asked. > > Now, assuming you're using a stock Debian kernel, it's unlikely to be a > kernel bug. Likewise, we can exclude some "user-firendly" software (I'm > looking at you, GNOME). > > Which leaves us with the hardware fault. > > Hate to bring it to you, but additional information would be welcome. > You're using lvm2, it's obvious. > But which drive your physical volume resides on? > I.e. make, model, SMART attributes if any? > > Reco > I have two 1 TB 7500 rpm Seagate hard drives (I don't know the model name). They are in a Debian software RAID 1 array. I do not have any SMART diagnostics, but the RAID 1 array looks okay judging from a 'cat /proc/mdstat' output. Also no audible sign of any imminent failure of either hard drive.
Re: Corrupt root filesystem
On 18:10, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Mick Ab > On 16:22, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Andy Smith > > > Hi Mick, > > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 04:01:23PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > > > Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which > > > indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck > > > to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. > > > > > > Any thoughts please as to what might cause the above problem ? > > > > It's something that happened in the past so difficult to tell. You > > will keep getting the message until you run fsck to fix it. You did > > not say whether you had done that so I'll assume not. > > > > I would be booting into a live or rescue environment and running > > fsck -n first to see what it will do, before running a real fsck. > > Also have backups. > > > > Most likely thing is that fixes it and you have no further > > problems. If it keeps happening to you, however, then this will need > > more investigation. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > -- > > https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting > > Sorry, I should have said that fsck was manually run on the root file system (as advised by the error message) each time that the error occurred. On both occasions, the system was rebooted okay. > > I am concerned that this error might keep recurring, so am keen to find out what is causing this error.
Re: Corrupt root filesystem
On 16:39, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Reco > On July 7, 2023 6:01:23 PM GMT+03:00, Mick Ab < recoverymail123...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which > >indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck > >to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. > > > > Typically, running fsck requires an unmounted filesystem (or at least readonly one). Achieving this before the reboot is a pretty hard trick. > > Thus, more information is needed. What does the message says exactly? What is the type (ext4, xfs, whatever) of the problematic filesystem? > > >Any thoughts please as to what might cause the above problem ? > > A hardware fault. A kernel bug. Overprotective software. > Could be anything. > > Reco > Hi. > The error messages were of the form :- "/dev/mapper/vgpcname-root contains a file system with errors, check forced. Inodes that were a part of a corrupted orphan linked lost found. /dev/mapper/vgpcname-root : UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck manually.(i.e ., without -a or -p options). fsck exited with status code 4. The root filesystem on /dev/mapper/vgpcname-root requires a manual fsck There is then a flashing prompt after "(initramfs)". The following command was thus run :- sudo fsck -y /dev/mapper/vgpcname-root The PC could then be rebooted. The file system is ext4.
Corrupt root filesystem
Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. Any thoughts please as to what might cause the above problem ?
Re: Raid Array and Changing Motherboard
On 19:58, Sun, 2 Jul 2023 David Christensen > On 7/2/23 10:23, Mick Ab wrote: > > I have a software RAID 1 array of two hard drives. Each of the two disks > > contains the Debian operating system and user data. > > > > I am thinking of changing the motherboard because of problems that might be > > connected to the current motherboard. The new motherboard would be the same > > make and model as the current motherboard. > > > > Would I need to recreate the RAID 1 array for the new motherboard I.e. > > re-initialise the current RAID 1 disks and repopulate the disks with data > > or can I just set up the software RAID on the new motherboard without > > affecting the current data on the RAID 1 drives ? > > > Shutdown the machine. Boot using a live USB stick. Type notes into a > text file. Use script(1) to record console sessions. Use dd(1) to take > an image of each disk to an external HDD (consider piping dd(1) to > gzip(1) to save space). Shutdown. Take note of which HDD is cabled to > which motherboard port. Replace motherboard. Connect HDD's to the same > motherboard ports. Boot. It should "just work". > > > Post details if you have problems. > > > David > > Thanks for your reply. I don't quite understand what you are proposing. Do you mean the external HDDs would form a new RAID 1 array for the new motherboard ? What would happen to the original RAID 1 disks ?
Raid Array and Changing Motherboard
I have a software RAID 1 array of two hard drives. Each of the two disks contains the Debian operating system and user data. I am thinking of changing the motherboard because of problems that might be connected to the current motherboard. The new motherboard would be the same make and model as the current motherboard. Would I need to recreate the RAID 1 array for the new motherboard I.e. re-initialise the current RAID 1 disks and repopulate the disks with data or can I just set up the software RAID on the new motherboard without affecting the current data on the RAID 1 drives ?
Nvidia GT 710 and Secure Boot
I understand that some people have experienced problems with booting a motherboard with Secure Boot enabled in the BIOS such that they get a blank screen, can't enter the BIOS and possibly can't boot at all. This problem seems to be due to having an old graphics card which doesn't have UEFI firmware, in particular no GOP driver. I have an Nvidia Geforce GT 710 graphics card, which is an old card and probably doesn't have the UEFI firmware or GOP driver needed with the Secure Boot feature. Is there a way in which the GT 710 can be updated to incorporate the necessary UEFI firmware and GOP driver ?
RAM
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the command line. The information needed is :- Total RAM stored Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick Type of RAM e.g. DDR4 Speed of RAM e.g. 3200 MHz Manufacturer and model number of RAM I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the information returned is not reliable. Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM information ?
BIOS version
Is there a command that can be used to determine the BIOS version being used on the motherboard. I have used dmidecode, but at the bottom of the man page for dmidecode there is :- "More often than not, information contained in the DMI tables is inaccurate, incomplete or simply wrong."
Replacing a Motherboard and CPU
If I replace a motherboard in a desktop PC with a motherboard of the same model and manufacturer, do I need to do anything apart from reconnecting everything and possibly updating the BIOS ? If, at the same time as replacing the motherboard, i also replace the CPU with a CPU of the same model and manufacturer, do I need to do anything apart from reconnecting everything and possibly updating the BIOS ?
Re: Error Messages
Is it possible that the CPU or motherboard could cause the problem ?
Re: Error Messages
Thanks for all the replies to the Error Messages. I don't know how you find which disk is referred to by ata5. I think dm-0 is a reference to a Raid setup. Other information about my hardware and rebooting :- I have two 1 TB hard drives arranged as a RAID 1 array. The power supply :- Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX About 18 months old. Motherboard BIOS :- Someone else was checking the BIOS. They said it was a Beta version. I discovered my RYZEN 5 5600x is the stepping 0 version of the CPU. Ram :- I don't know the make of the Ram - someone built the PC for me. 16GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM (2 x 8GB sticks, I understand Reboots :- Subsequent to those error messages, I tried a reboot. This failed :- The reboot error says: /dev/mapper/vgpiglit-root contains a file system with errors, check forced. Inodes that were a part of a corrupted orphan linked lost found. /dev/mapper/vgpiglit-root : UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck manually.(i.e ., without -a or -p options). fsck exited with status code 4. The root filesystem on /dev/mapper/vgpiglit-root requires a manual fsck There is then a flashing prompt after "(initramfs)". The fsck command was then performed :- fsck -y /dev/mapper/vgpiglit-root A subsequent reboot worked. Firefox then had a very lengthy cursor lag, but this was solved by deleting the places and favicons data in the Firefox profile. No more error messages yet.
Error Messages
I run a desktop PC with Debian 11, Ryzen 5 5600x CPU and MSI-B550 A Pro motherboard. Recently, Hardware error messages such as the following have appeared every few weeks :- And around the time of the error messages on the 22nd May, the syslog extracts say: May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730488] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730489] [Hardware Error]: Corrected error, no action required. May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730493] [Hardware Error]: CPU:0 (19:21:0) MC13_STATUS[Over|CE|-|AddrV|-|-|-|Poison|Scrub]: 0xc5048b48cbb60f00 May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730497] [Hardware Error]: Error Addr: 0x May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730498] [Hardware Error]: IPID: 0x May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730500] [Hardware Error]: Bank 13 is reserved. May 22 23:11:51 piglit kernel: [1684438.730500] [Hardware Error]: internal: RESV Then last Saturday, there appeared Data Error messages such as the following :- May 27 13:24:29 piglit kernel: [2081199.553917] ata5.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED May 27 13:24:29 piglit kernel: [2081199.553919] ata5.00: cmd 60/90:b8:10:14:6c/00:00:03:00:00/40 tag 23 ncq dma 73728 in May 27 13:24:29 piglit kernel: [2081199.553919] res 40/00:b8:10:14:6c/00:00:03:00:00/40 Emask 0x50 (ATA bus error) May 27 13:24:29 piglit kernel: [2081199.553920] ata5.00: status: { DRDY } May 27 13:24:29 piglit kernel: [2081199.553923] ata5: hard resetting link May 27 13:24:30 piglit kernel: [2081200.273917] ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310) May 27 13:24:34 piglit kernel: [2081203.967459] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33 More error messages and then :- processes of 1 users. May 27 13:58:08 piglit kernel: [2083218.337088] EXT4-fs warning (device dm-0): ext4_dirblock_csum_verify:400: inode #53: comm opera: No space for directory leaf checksum. Please run e2fsck -D. May 27 13:58:08 piglit kernel: [2083218.337091] EXT4-fs error (device dm-0): __ext4_find_entry:1591: inode #53: comm opera: checksumming Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error -30) [3135811:3135811:0527/135811.569191:ERROR:gpu_memory_buffer_support_x11.cc(49)] dri3 extension not supported. Any thoughts about why the above is happening, please ? The Opera browser was running at the time. Subsequent to the above messages, it was found that neither the Opera or Chrome browser could be opened. Firefox has been opened but seems to run in reduced mode.
Data Error Messages
A desktop PC is running Debian 11 with an AMD Ryzen CPU. The system has been running well, but now the following error messages have been seen :- Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error -30) [3135811:3135811:0527/135811.569191:ERROR:gpu_memory_buffer_support_x11.cc(49)] dri3 extension not supported. Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error -30) Any thoughts about why the above is happening, please ? The Opera browser was running at the time. Subsequent to the above messages, it was found that neither the Opera or Chrome browser could be opened. Firefox has been opened but seems to run in a basic mode.
Can't open email attachments with Firefox 102.3.0 esr
A few days ago Debian 11 was updated. As part of that update Firefox was updated to Firefox 102.3.0 esr (64 bit). It has subsequently been found that this version of Firefox does not allow email attachments to be opened. Clicking on such an attachment used to always open a dialogue box which had options "Open with..." and "Save" but now it just jumps straight to a Download box with a list of folders to download to. Has anyone else experienced the above problem ? Can anyone please suggest a way to get round the above problem and allow email attachments to be opened rather than downloaded ?
Re: exiftool
On 2022-07-19 17:08, Curt wrote: On 2022-07-19, mick crane wrote: I want to add AttributionURL and AttributionName https://exiftool.org/TagNames/XMP.html#cc says is to do with "XMP-cc" but not guessed the syntax as yet. exiftool -overwrite_original -XMP-cc:AttributionName="Creator" "file name.extension" exiftool -overwrite_original -XMP-cc:AttributionURL="Creator URL" "file name.extension" exiftool -overwrite_original -XMP-cc:license="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/; -XMP-cc:AttributionName="Creator" -XMP-cc:AttributionURL="http://creatorURL.com; "file name.extension" https://libre-software.net/edit-metadata-exiftool/ I've been doing that before without the "-overwrite_original" but doesn't show up in Gimp metadata menu, is there when view with exiftool. only "exiftool -CopyrightNotice="License: Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International" file.png" Shows in Gimp>image>metadata cheers mick
Re: exiftool
On 2022-07-19 10:58, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 10:03:05AM +0100, mick crane wrote: I'm sending a load of images to somebody and I want them to be Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license Don't want to plaster over images so think to add to exif data. I've not done it personally but this seems to give an example of what you want using exiftool: https://photo.stackexchange.com/a/71428 I don't think it was my exif additions Gimp was complaining about but something else. It's happy enough now but struggling adding the exifdata. Gimp image>Metadata shows 3 tabs Exif, XMP, IPTC typing exiftool -CopyrightNotice="Licence: Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)" text is in IPTC tab of gimp. I want to add AttributionURL and AttributionName https://exiftool.org/TagNames/XMP.html#cc says is to do with "XMP-cc" but not guessed the syntax as yet. cheers mick
exiftool
Hi, exiftool is in the repository so I reckon is fair game for a question. I'm sending a load of images to somebody and I want them to be Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license Don't want to plaster over images so think to add to exif data. If type. "exiftool -license="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/; ./filename" Gimp is complaining that metadata is not understood and do I want to import. Gimp Metadata viewer is of the form "Exif.Image.Compression Uncompressed" What is the correct form to add license to image with exiftool ?. See talk of XML but I don't understand that. mick
Re: cups broken
On 2022-07-13 18:21, gene heskett wrote: I give up, the driverless printer cups installs automaticaly cannot be deleted and has taken over from the brother drivers that work, preventing me from using the printer at all. So how do I disable the driverless junk? Is that a separate package that is removable? cups doesn't even offer to disable this non-working garbage. Thanks for any good clues. I've usually managed once discovered what CUPS thinks the printer is called. Not seen this documentation on github before. https://openprinting.github.io/cups/doc/admin.html mick
Re: nft newbie
On 2022-07-12 10:33, Gareth Evans wrote: On Tue 12 Jul 2022, at 10:19, Maximiliano Estudies In most cases it's a best practice to configure all chains with _policy drop_ and then add rules for the traffic that you want to allow All the nftables and PF howtos I have found take this approach. Why is it best practice? Is there any security advantage over rejection? I think it is just that 'reject' tells the remote system there is something listening. mick
Re: bash: which: command not found? + (E: Unable to locate package which? ...)
On 2022-07-08 12:48, Greg Wooledge wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives thanks mick
Re: bash: which: command not found? + (E: Unable to locate package which? ...)
On 2022-07-08 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Not every binary is contained in a package called like it. That's what "apt-file" is for (in the same named package): tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search bin/which debian-goodies: /usr/bin/which-pkg-broke debian-goodies: /usr/bin/which-pkg-broke-build debianutils: /usr/bin/which emboss: /usr/bin/whichdb whichman: /usr/bin/whichman here on bookworm mick@pumpkin:~$ ls -la /usr/bin |grep which lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jan 23 18:05 which -> /etc/alternatives/which -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 946 May 1 17:47 which.debianutils mick@pumpkin:~$ what are these "alternatives" ? mick
Re: How's ...
On 2022-07-04 16:34, Dan Ritter wrote: Somebody needs to reimplement CPAN in Bash just so we can bootstrap a totally broken Perl without needing to run out and buy a new computer. I mean, how hard can it be (assuming you grok what CPAN actually *does*, which I don't yet, and know Bash, which I know just enough of to make Greg Wooledge hate me)? CPAN is a repository for Perl modules the same way that debian.org provides a repository for Debian packages. You can access it several different ways, but in general using the Debian dh-make-perl package to pull a CPAN module and convert it into a .deb will make you happiest, especially if you have to install it on more than one machine. or cpanm https://perlmaven.com/cpanm mick
Re: stopping job before shutdown.
On 2022-06-29 18:32, Dan Ritter wrote: to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 09:08:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/29/22 08:35, mick crane wrote: > > hello, > > Because I don't trust that I've set up power saving properly with PC and > > monitor if leaving desk I turn off PC with power button on front. > > It usually is very quick and to start up again. > > There is printer attached to other PC. > > Recent update of bookworm when turning off PC with power button there is > > the message, > > " stopping job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. > > and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. > > What could be causing that ? > > > > mick > > > That method of stopping the pc is quite dangerous to the hard drive, you > may kill the power while the journal is updating the drives contents, [...] I took that to mean that the button triggers an orderly shutdown (otherwise the PC wouldn't get a chance to output a message). Yes. Mick's problem is systemd's default timeout. whatever it was must have been doing it during idle time as it seems to have stopped doing it now. mick
stopping job before shutdown.
hello, Because I don't trust that I've set up power saving properly with PC and monitor if leaving desk I turn off PC with power button on front. It usually is very quick and to start up again. There is printer attached to other PC. Recent update of bookworm when turning off PC with power button there is the message, " stopping job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. What could be causing that ? mick
Re: Suggestions for rm
On 2022-06-24 08:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > After "rm -rf /" one probably has to re-install the system first, Once upon a time one of the distributions put you in / after "su" where typing "rm -rf ./*" is not the best thing to do. "N" You only do it once but I like the adjusted su behaviour that keeps you in PWD. mick
Re: how disable package upgrades before "Select and install software" on net.iso
On 2022-06-23 07:26, visqa...@yahoo.com wrote: hello debian users, twice installation failed due to error: WARNING **: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 100 i am trying to install using 11.3 net.iso on vm. i have seen couple of debian bugs, however they are closed with latest iso. how do i resolve issue this issue? searching the error message a couple of suggestions may be something to do with UEFI or secure boot. mick
Re: X coordinates displayed interactively.
On 2022-06-19 16:52, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Hi, Is there a X utility which displays coordinates of the mouse pointer interactively? Updating coordinates constantly as the mouse is moved. CADD software does that within the application but I'm interested in the X display. Thx, ... P. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21850145/monitor-mouse-coordinates-in-real-time-in-linux
Re: Frozen mouse and keyboard
Thanks Brad for your contribution. I don't think anything can be done with the keyboard when the freeze occurs. On 15:41, Wed, 15 Jun 2022 Brad Rogers On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:15:35 +0100 > Joe wrote: > > Hello Joe, > > >Also try Ctrl-Alt-F3 > >to see if a console is reachable as X might have problems. > > Unlikely: OP reported keyboard is frozen, too. > > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" > / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" > I'm in need of your help now > Burn - Judgement Centre >
Re: Frozen mouse and keyboard
Thanks very much, David, for your help. Unfortunately it is not possible to log in to the PC from elsewhere. As to most of your other points, they will have to wait for another similar freeze. I was not able to check logs because, subsequent to the freezing, the PC had to be rebooted due to a mains power cut and the journald system does not persist across boots. On 19:36, Wed, 15 Jun 2022 David Wright On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 09:21:58 (+0100), Mick Ab wrote: > > I have a fairly new desktop PC running Debian 11. Recently there have > been > > a few occasions when the PC has failed to > > be woken up in the morning after being left overnight. The mouse and > > keyboard are frozen. Sometimes the monitor appears to be off and on > > one occasion it was on. > > Like others, I would try logging in over the network to see if > that is still up. > > Apart from that, I would take a careful look at the BIOS settings > under Power Management. > > Assuming your mouse and keyboard are USB or unwired, perhaps > the USB ports are powering down too? If you plug in a USB stick, > does it light up as normal? > > If there's an ethernet card, is the light still on? Does it > react to (un)plugging? > > Disks spinning? > > How long did the logs keep updating during the night? > > IOW just how dead is the machine? > > > A hard reboot has been used to reset the PC, but it is not a good idea to > > keep doing that. > > Modern filesystems/journals etc are pretty forgiving. > Modern hardware should be unharmed by the experience. > (Unlike back in the days of parking disk heads.) > > Cheers, > David. > >
Re: digikam import fails
On 2022-06-16 21:23, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ gphoto2 Usage: gphoto2 [-?qvalLnPTDR] [-?|--help] [--usage] [--debug] [--debug-loglevel=STRING] [--debug-logfile=FILENAME] [-q|--quiet] [--hook-script=FILENAME] [--stdout] [--stdout-size] [--auto-detect] [--show-exif=STRING] [--show-info=STRING] [--summary] [--manual] [--about] [--storage-info] [--shell] [-v|--version] [--list-cameras] [--list-ports] [-a|--abilities] [--port=FILENAME] [--speed=SPEED] [--camera=MODEL] [--usbid=USBIDs] [--config] [--list-config] [--list-all-config] [--get-config=STRING] [--set-config=STRING] [--set-config-index=STRING] [--set-config-value=STRING] [--reset] [--keep] [--keep-raw] [--no-keep] [--wait-event=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING] [--wait-event-and-download=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING] [--capture-preview] [--show-preview] [-B|--bulb=SECONDS] [-F|--frames=COUNT] [-I|--interval=SECONDS] [--reset-interval] [--capture-image] [--trigger-capture] [--capture-image-and-download] [--capture-movie=COUNT or SECONDS] [--capture-sound] [--capture-tethered=COUNT, SECONDS, MILLISECONDS or MATCHSTRING] [-l|--list-folders] [-L|--list-files] [-m|--mkdir=DIRNAME] [-r|--rmdir=DIRNAME] [-n|--num-files] [-p|--get-file=RANGE] [-P|--get-all-files] [-t|--get-thumbnail=RANGE] [-T|--get-all-thumbnails] [--get-metadata=RANGE] [--get-all-metadata] [--upload-metadata=STRING] [--get-raw-data=RANGE] [--get-all-raw-data] [--get-audio-data=RANGE] [--get-all-audio-data] [-d|--delete-file=RANGE] [-D|--delete-all-files] [-u|--upload-file=FILENAME] [--filename=FILENAME_PATTERN] [-f|--folder=FOLDER] [-R|--recurse] [--no-recurse] [--new] [--force-overwrite] [--skip-existing] gene@coyote:~$ IOW, that didn't work either if its supposed to be gnomes answer to digikam. Next? Thanks Mick. Take care and stay well. It's ages since I did anything with cameras. In the past I've taken the card out and put it in a reader does "gphoto2 --auto-detect" do anything ? mick
Re: digikam import fails
On 2022-06-16 20:19, gene heskett wrote: The shell I ran digikam from is reporting screens full of missing this and that despite the installation of digikam pulling in: 0 upgraded, 261 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 273 MB of archives. After this operation, 726 MB of additional disk space will be used. Then when I run it, there are hundred of missing that and than lines spit out in the shell I launched it from. try gphoto2 ? if camera is on list http://gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php should you not be able to mount it as a filesystem ? I like geeqie for viewing images. mick
Re: Epson printer page counting error
On 2022-06-16 13:31, Brian wrote: Believe it or believe it not, there are other rechniques to set up a print queue :). are these "rechniques" similar to the destructions ? mick
Re: Frozen mouse and keyboard
On 2022-06-15 09:21, Mick Ab wrote: I have a fairly new desktop PC running Debian 11. Recently there have been a few occasions when the PC has failed to be woken up in the morning after being left overnight. The mouse and keyboard are frozen. Sometimes the monitor appears to be off and on one occasion it was on. I have had a separate issue which I think might be the monitor power saver communicating with PC. If I turn off the monitor but leave PC on monitor will not wake up when turned back on. disconnecting the power supply to the monitor and plugging back in resolves that. It used to be that the monitor would not turn back on after going in standby mode so I have deselected all power savers in monitor menu. so rather than hard setting the PC, try power cycle the monitor mick
Re: Frozen mouse and keyboard
On 2022-06-15 09:21, Mick Ab wrote: I have a fairly new desktop PC running Debian 11. Recently there have been a few occasions when the PC has failed to be woken up in the morning after being left overnight. The mouse and keyboard are frozen. Sometimes the monitor appears to be off and on one occasion it was on. A hard reboot has been used to reset the PC, but it is not a good idea to keep doing that. There is also a worry that if there is a hardware fault, the situation might get worse over time. Has anyone any idea as to what may be causing the problem and what would be the best way to try and solve it ? I anticipate it might be difficult to solve the problem given that the fault is intermittent. I had similar and advice to change driver from radeon to amdgpu seemed to solve issue. list emails "system freeze", don't know how to do that archive link. mick
Frozen mouse and keyboard
I have a fairly new desktop PC running Debian 11. Recently there have been a few occasions when the PC has failed to be woken up in the morning after being left overnight. The mouse and keyboard are frozen. Sometimes the monitor appears to be off and on one occasion it was on. A hard reboot has been used to reset the PC, but it is not a good idea to keep doing that. There is also a worry that if there is a hardware fault, the situation might get worse over time. Has anyone any idea as to what may be causing the problem and what would be the best way to try and solve it ? I anticipate it might be difficult to solve the problem given that the fault is intermittent.
Re: user perms
On 2022-06-14 00:03, gene heskett wrote: I'm looking for a mailer that actually works. tbirds sort filters don't, and they think everybody uses only html, so word wrap doesn't work So I'm doing this by hand.. I'd have thought if you've got PCs in different buildings Dovecot, Roundcube, Seive on the PC with Apache on it would work for you. Think it uses postfix which seems automagically installed. I like it but really should upgrade. getmail from https://pyropus.ca./software/getmail/ for getting the mail mick
Re: perms
On 2022-06-13 19:11, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, For CUPS - you can use lpadmin from a terminal as a command line. Open a konsole terminal, su - inside it, then use lpadmin Just looking to see if I could remember how to add a cups printer noticed that I am in lpadmin group in /etc/group which might be why I look to be able to login as me in cups webpage "add printer". colours would likely be the colours of the shell and the editor rather than the terminal. I think I did this "select-editor" in mc and was presented with a choice. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/80845/how-to-set-default-editor-viewer-for-midnight-commander-to-sublime maybe there are things to do in [colors] section of ~/.config/mc/ini mick
Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails
On 2022-06-12 18:34, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Sunday 12 June 2022 12:54:19 pm mick crane wrote: As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things working one at a time afterwards. Were I running into these kinds of hassles, that would be my approach as well. The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. So having twigged that I'd initially have the installer do its thing. mick
Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails
On 2022-06-12 17:20, gene heskett wrote: I so want you to succeed and I can't be a lot of help. As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things working one at a time afterwards. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails
On 2022-06-09 22:15, gene heskett wrote: Posted once as the original .png of 81k, that didn't get thru the server, then I loaed it up in gimp and smunched it down to about 51k, ugly but still readable, and thats not made it thru the server either. Screenshot_1.jpg(~61 KB) was attached to your previous mail. Noticed as you say that 3 disks were scsi7. I have installed Debian to the wrong disk one time because of user error. The last time I think I physically disconnected other disks for installation. and added/identified others later by dmesg reported manufacturer and size. good luck mick
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On 2022-06-09 03:09, DdB wrote: The Big Tech companies are busy to de-anonymise the internet in order to augment their knowledge/income even more, and in order to do that, it would be very convenient, if every user was forced to authenticate themself undoubtedly. But let's not talk about that. Let the "official reasonning" be based on "security". Great cover story, bcoz we like to trust the security mirage [Bruce Schneier]! I finally had to set up an app password for mail to work. During the process of discovering what to click on there was the statement. "Google will never use the content of your emails in order to select what ads you are shown." or words to that effect. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
concerning gmail and that
There was that Gernman guy who worked out how you could do images with a 360 view and he was jumped on by copyright lawyers. This computer, internet phenomenon, industrial change, is meant to be a communal effort. I saw that there are Requests For Comment which try to establish protocols how things work best. My gripe with these bandwagon jumpers like gmail is the taking of community concepts, monetising them and ignoring these RFCs. mick
Re: Alcatel Linkzone sold by T-Mobile, labeled "4G LTE HotSpot
On 2022-06-04 18:11, Richard Owlett wrote: I am using an Alcatel Linkzone sold by T-Mobile. Presume T-mobile is your carrier ? mick
Re: upgraded dddprint, my 3d printer driver today, to bullseye, but its main job isn't working.
On 2022-06-04 18:25, gene heskett wrote: But whats with lightdm? Better yet, where is the blanker configurer? I don't see any likely culprits in the applications menu's. Then I did find it,under power managment. Logical I guess but since driving a 3d printer can be a several day task, I turned it all to never. But it would be nice if I could enable it and it actually worked. On buster it worked as desired, dependably. I have similar issue with bookworm, lightdm, Xfce. thing will blank and become unresponsive. Think it might be the power management of the monitor v the OS power manager. mick.
Re: upgraded dddprint, my 3d printer driver today, to bullseye, but its main job isn't working.
On 2022-06-04 16:13, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; From firmware 11-3 netinstall. On a Dell with an i5 and 16Gigs of memory. 2nd machine I've bullseye'd. Half a T SSD drive, your basic one pony show. 1. It can't access the 3d printer, but shows it as /dev/ttyACM0 in dmesg. cura-5.0 isn't too voluable about why. How do I set that up? Worked fine on buster, for older cura. bearing in mind I don't know what I'm doing, in https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html it says you can type "dpkg --audit" To see the status of packages. Dunno if that is helpful. mick
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On 2022-06-01 18:04, Brian wrote: On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali wrote: > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will continue to work but > ability to download mail with POP3 without OAUTH2 will be unavailable. > Actually, even without OAUTH2 it should be still possible. With two factor authentication enabled it is possible to generate app password for use with standard authentication. It's June 1st and my ability to collect mail via POP3 from gmail is unimpaired. No OAUTH2 or 2FA at this site. Whatever Google intended the situation to be after May 30th, it appears the interpretation by some users of their mail was off the mark. I'd just allowed non secure apps a year or so ago and seems to be still working. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: regarding firewall discussion
On 2022-06-01 18:26, Joe wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2022 03:17:52 +0100 mick crane wrote: regarding firewall discussion I'm uncertain how firewalls are supposed to work. I think the idea is that nothing is accepted unless it is in response to a request. What's to stop some spurious instructions being sent in response to genuine request? Nothing really, but the reply can only come from the site you made the request to. Don't connect to untrustworthy sites. It is of course possible for a legitimate site to get hacked and some malware embedded in its pages or linked from them, but that will normally require JavaScript to run, and many people run browsers with JS disabled. It's quite rare for a professionally-run site to get defaced, as the terminology has it, but there's no way I would run a public-facing website, as I don't know enough to secure it (and I know that I don't know enough). There are other defences: use a proxy server which blocks anything suspicious, and so on. We're into application-level firewalls here, that actually parse the returned packets, beyond the scope of iptables and the like. Browsers usually have a number of configurations concerning third-party content, as well as plugins such as No-Script for Firefox. But a blanket ban on JS will result in many (most?) websites today not working. I despair of the 'web designers' who cannot display a single character on a user's browser without using JS. I have pfsense between me and the big bad world and I got some OINK code which I think is community based Snort list of undesirable addresses. It is described as "Legacy" so I don't know if there is something newer I should be doing. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: regarding firewall discussion
On 2022-05-31 12:21, IL Ka wrote: What's to stop some spurious instructions being sent in response to genuine request? Packets do not contain instructions, only data. If your TCP/IP implementation doesn't have vulnerabilities any packet shouldn't be a problem. Firewall prevents technically legal packets from reaching software that shouldn't be accessible from the Internet. In most cases a hacker finds an opened port (port listened to by some daemon) and connects to it. Firewall prevents hacker from doing it. I have wondered since ages ago, likely on windows, I wanted to know about something, I forget what, and there was one result in Alta Vista or something. Go to website there is a message "GO AWAY". I go away but then curious go back and my computer crashes. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
regarding firewall discussion
regarding firewall discussion I'm uncertain how firewalls are supposed to work. I think the idea is that nothing is accepted unless it is in response to a request. What's to stop some spurious instructions being sent in response to genuine request? regards mick
Re: Apache2 404
On 2022-05-21 16:16, IL Ka wrote: My link to the second page is via a url "var/www/ ldmdomain.info/html/Picture1.html". should be http://ldmdomain.info/Picture1.html probably this likely depends on what apache thinks the DocumentRoot is ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)
On 2022-05-19 04:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: A much better workaround is to create the /etc/default/su file and put the line ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes well that's handy. "su -" puts you in /root whereas with that you stay in $PWD. cheers mick
Re: Permanent email address?
On 2022-05-17 01:44, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied! I'll need to think over what I want to do. I guess if I want to run a local MTA, I'd need either a static IP address (along with a domain) or I'm guessing I could use one of those services (and software) that lets you use a dynamic IP address (by doing something like updating you if your IP address changes. I think the way it worked was the dynamic ip people gave you namespace within a domain that they control then monitored your ipaddress from your ISP for changes and redirected requests to your name in their domain to that. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On 2022-05-11 19:08, Brian wrote: On Wed 11 May 2022 at 19:04:01 +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2022-05-11 18:51, Brian wrote: > On Wed 11 May 2022 at 15:25:34 +0200, Fero Dali wrote: > > > I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued. > > Where does google say that? It's about stopping phishing emails or something https://developers.googleblog.com/2022/02/making-oauth-flows-safer.html That does not answer my question. It's all a mystery to me They seem to be saying that you need to use some double authentication and programs like getmail that use user, password for IMAP will stop working unless you get some sort of one off token from google but possible this token will not be a one off. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On 2022-05-11 18:51, Brian wrote: On Wed 11 May 2022 at 15:25:34 +0200, Fero Dali wrote: I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued. Where does google say that? It's about stopping phishing emails or something https://developers.googleblog.com/2022/02/making-oauth-flows-safer.html mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On 2022-05-11 14:25, Fero Dali wrote: I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued. On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 4:31 PM mick crane wrote: There's scripts been posted on the getmail mailing list to fix this. I ought to sort it out in the next day or so but it might be easier to stop using gmail. There's some other limiting thing coming in later apparently. google instructions here. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 I have read the link you posted and tried to make 2-Step Verification. Unfortunately on first step (after forced reloging) there is an issue. Believe it or not I do not use cell phone, and there are two more options which I also can not use (well one uses cell phone again, and other need some device I think which I do not have). So I guess this is the end of me using gmail :( And I need to find other email provider. I looked at web and found http://riseup.net But to create account there I also need an Invite Code. So, please, if anyone can give me an Invite Code for riseup.net I would be very grateful. Thanks
Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email
On 2022-05-11 14:25, Fero Dali wrote: I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued. On May 30, you may lose access to apps that are using less secure sign-in technology To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and password. Instead, you’ll need to sign in using Sign in with Google I have used a google account to read email from mailing lists. I am using fetchmail to get emails from google. Now it says it will discontinue this access to my mail. I do not want to use webmail (I need to receive my mail on my computer). Is there a way to somehow download emails from gmail as I used to after May 30? There's scripts been posted on the getmail mailing list to fix this. I ought to sort it out in the next day or so but it might be easier to stop using gmail. There's some other limiting thing coming in later apparently. google instructions here. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Networking pb
On 2022-05-08 22:58, Hussein Yahia wrote: Hi, I'm new to Linux, sorry if my question is naive. I just installed debian 11 on my computer. It's wire-connected to internet. I have another computer, a mac, which is connected through wifi. I can connect from my mac to the Linux desktop. But I can't connect from the Linux to the mac: when I go in the "Network" directory, the mac does not appear. I installed smb on the Linux desktop. Can you help me on that ? It's likely tidier rather than having server and client on both machines to have another something or other running Debian as server whose job is file sharing. via eg. ssh, a web browser. mick
Re: sane-backend for Epson EcoTank ET-2711
On 2022-05-04 14:12, Dieter Rohlfing wrote: Am Wed, 04 May 2022 11:42:39 +0100 schrieb mick crane : You can probably type "scanimage --help -A -d 'airscan:w0:EPSON ET-2710 Series'" to get a list of capabilities. This is the ET2711 specific output: Options specific to device `airscan:w0:EPSON ET-2710 Series': Standard: --resolution 100|300dpi [300] seems you should have 1200dpi available. No idea why not mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: sane-backend for Epson EcoTank ET-2711
On 2022-05-04 10:51, Dieter Rohlfing wrote: scanimage -L device `airscan:w0:EPSON ET-2710 Series' is a WSD EPSON ET-2710 Series ip=172.16.10.91 I'd have to familiarize myself with setting up scanning You can probably type "scanimage --help -A -d 'airscan:w0:EPSON ET-2710 Series'" to get a list of capabilities. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: mariadb does not run
On 2022-05-02 13:34, Lucio Crusca wrote: Il 02/05/22 12:54, mick crane ha scritto: I don't know anything about this but https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/184283/mariadb-10-1-galera-cluster-error says The source of this error Thanks but... it's not the same error, nor the same context. I just searched for $_WSREP_NEW_CLUSTER $_WSREP_START_POSITION (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) think that was the first one, there's a few others about wanting an IP address. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: mariadb does not run
On 2022-05-02 09:55, Lucio Crusca wrote: Until yesterday I had mariadb 10.6 running on my system (bookworm/sid). It was behaving strangely, so I decided to stop it, uninstall it, remove all databases during uninstall (it's a developer system, so no real data to save there) and install it again. Before reinstalling it, I checked that /var/lib/mysql did not exist anymore. I even manually removed /etc/mysql along with all the contained files and purged dbconfig-common (just in case it matters), then I rebooted the system and finally I installed mariadb-server with its dependencies using aptitude. Installation went through without errors, but it did not ask me to set a password for the mariadb root user (maybe that's ok, I'm not sure). Any clues? I don't know anything about this but https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/184283/mariadb-10-1-galera-cluster-error says The source of this error is due to the rsync program already in use, so the solution was to terminate it : Dunno if that helps ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Graphics::Magick
with bullseye previous Perl script use Graphics::Magick; my $bg=Graphics::Magick->new; $bg->Set(size=>"1000"."x"."1000"); $bg->ReadImage('xc:white'); $bg->Draw(primitive=>'rectangle',stroke=>'red',points=>"100,100 980,980"); $bg->Draw(primitive=>'rectangle',stroke=>'blue',points=>"20,20 400,400"); my $filename = "test.png"; $bg->Write(filename=>$filename); $bg=undef; would result in outlines of 2 rectangles overlaid on white. but with bookworm same thing results in 2 rectangles filled with black. to get same result have to change to $bg->Draw(primitive=>'rectangle',stroke=>'red',points=>"100,100 980,980",fill=>'false'); Is this because bookworm is work in progress ? regards mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: system freeze
On 2022-04-20 21:52, Felix Miata wrote: You left out the S part of inxi -SGayz, so we don't see the kernel parameters to confirm whether radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 was in effect on the current boot. well that's 2 days, touch wood, and we have stability. many thanks. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: system freeze
On 2022-04-20 21:52, Felix Miata wrote: You left out the S part of inxi -SGayz, so we don't see the kernel parameters to confirm whether radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 was in effect on the current boot. Ah, it didn't change. seems "grub-mkconfig" isn't the thing to type. should be "update-grub" If adding "radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1" to menuitem in /boot/grub/grub_cfg to seems to have effect but resolution is 800x600 with no options to change in desktop settings/display whereas "update-grub" looks to sort all that out. mick@pumpkin:~$ inxi -SGayz System: Kernel: 5.16.0-6-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.2.0 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.16.0-6-amd64 root=UUID=1b68069c-ec94-4f42-a35e-6a845008eac7 ro radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.16.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.16.1 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid Graphics: Device-1: AMD Pitcairn LE GL [FirePro W5000] vendor: Dell driver: amdgpu v: kernel alternate: radeon pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DVI-I-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6809 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: xfwm v: 4.16.1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x2160 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x571mm (40.00x22.48") s-diag: 1165mm (45.88") Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: LG (GoldStar) HDR 4K serial: built: 2021 res: 3840x2160 hz: 60 dpi: 163 gamma: 1.2 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39") diag: 690mm (27.2") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 3840x2160 min: 640x480 OpenGL: renderer: ATI FirePro V(FireGL V) Graphics Adapter (PITCAIRN DRM 3.44.0 5.16.0-6-amd64 LLVM 13.0.1) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.3.8 direct render: Yes that looks like it's changed the driver ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: system freeze
On 2022-04-20 19:35, Felix Miata wrote: Section "Device" Identifier "DefaultDevice" Driver "amdgpu" EndSection I've changed /etc/default/grub #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1" typed grub-mkconfig making file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf Section "Device" Identifier "DefaultDevice" Driver "amdgpu" EndSection On reboot there is message [failed]Failed to start Light Display Manager there is file /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf Section "OutputClass" Identifier "AMDgpu" MatchDriver "amdgpu" Driver "amdgpu" EndSection putting that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf X starts but driver doesn't seem to have changed? $ inxi -SGayz Graphics: Device-1: AMD Pitcairn LE GL [FirePro W5000] vendor: Dell driver: radeon v: kernel alternate: amdgpu pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DVI-I-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6809 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: xfwm v: 4.16.1 driver: X: loaded: radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Is there some syntax error. Do I need this MatchDriver "amdgpu" and Identifier "DefaultDevice" cheers mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: system freeze
On 2022-04-20 17:34, Felix Miata wrote: mick crane composed on 2022-04-20 11:47 (UTC+0100): Graphics: Device-1: AMD Pitcairn LE GL [FirePro W5000] vendor: Dell driver: radeon v: kernel alternate: amdgpu pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DVI-I-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6809 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: xfwm v: 4.16.1 driver: X: loaded: radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: radeon Your GPU has another driver option set. Currently you are using radeon kernel device driver with radeon DDX Xorg display driver. You may switch to the amdgpu kernel device driver, which supports both the amdgpu DDX display driver and the modesetting DIX display driver. To make the switch, append the following to the linu lines in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub: radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 I added that to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub but I can't see what to put in /boot/grub/grub.cfg because I'm not supposed to edit it and grub-mkconfig is automagical. Switching between the two Xorg drivers can be done via config file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to specify either with a device line. what does that device line look like ? Because it's happening in web browser, I'm guessing GPU overheat is likely the cause. Taking the cover off the PC and aiming a large fan at the interior may be telling. Make sure the CPU fan, if present, is working, and the heat sink isn't loaded with accumulated dust and tobacco tar. If it is, then the PS would need cleaning too, as there it could cause voltage instability from overheating. It may be temperature, there was some dust and tobacco on the case fans but GPU heat sink is clean and fan spinning. I don't think this Dell Dimension PC will start up if the fans aren't working as when I got it one of the case fans wasn't working and I had to get a new unit. Have occasionally checked temperature with GUI sensor viewer but not caught it overheating GPU - 37C CPU - 40C cheers mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
system freeze
hello, I frequently have the system freeze on me and I have to unplug it. It seems to only happen in a browser and *appears* to be triggered by using the mouse. If watching streamed youtube movie or reading blogs sometimes the screen goes black and everything is unresponsive and sometimes the screen and everything freezes but the audio keeps playing. I'd like it to stop doing that. It didn't seem to be an issue a while ago but now is happening once at least per day with bullseye and now with bookworm. I cannot find anything in logs that have looked for except $ journalctl -e Apr 20 10:30:58 pumpkin pulseaudio[852]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms) This may be that is just because I did have a bluetooth keyboard but it was so slow to wake up I changed to a usb keyboard and the bluetooth adapter is not there anymore and I should purge the bluetooth stuff. Is a wireless mouse whatever that is. I thought it might be the graphics card had gone defective but now I think it is something about the mouse It seems that the thing freezes before anything has a chance to write to a log. What steps can I take to isolate the problem ? mick@pumpkin:~$ inxi -SGayz System: Kernel: 5.16.0-6-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.2.0 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.16.0-6-amd64 root=UUID=1b68069c-ec94-4f42-a35e-6a845008eac7 ro quiet Desktop: Xfce v: 4.16.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.16.1 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid Graphics: Device-1: AMD Pitcairn LE GL [FirePro W5000] vendor: Dell driver: radeon v: kernel alternate: amdgpu pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DVI-I-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6809 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: xfwm v: 4.16.1 driver: X: loaded: radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x2160 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x571mm (40.00x22.48") s-diag: 1165mm (45.88") Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: LG (GoldStar) HDR 4K serial: built: 2021 res: 3840x2160 hz: 60 dpi: 163 gamma: 1.2 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39") diag: 690mm (27.2") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 3840x2160 min: 640x480 OpenGL: renderer: AMD PITCAIRN (DRM 2.50.0 5.16.0-6-amd64 LLVM 13.0.1) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.3.8 direct render: Yes regards mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Hello
On 2022-04-14 23:31, sergioyraul wrote: Im looking for a version debían gnome non-free with all private firmware but I install two versions Which I believe were non-free but they were not.can you give me a link that complies with that? If you have installed something that boots I *think* it is a matter of adding contrib and non-free to sources.list. https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones
On 2022-04-10 01:21, The Wanderer wrote: avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp Does that get the information from CUPS? With printer connected via other PC (CUPS print server) there is no output from "avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp" mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones
On 2022-04-08 17:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: If you don't want to read the background information, the question is: How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the correct one, apart from trial and error? I think you'd set up a printer on your machine with 'ipp://ip-address-of-print-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-as-written-on-sticker' but you are saying that wasn't the exact name ? There should be a way to query the print server of ip addresses by name. cheers mick
Re: webcamd
On 2022-03-21 21:39, Russell L. Harris wrote: I am having only limited success configuring the Debian webcamd package. I wish to display images from a Logitech web cam pointing out the window as a weathercam, uploading a new image about once a minute. I plan to upload the images to a subdirectory "webcam" of my weather website, www.example-weather.org/webcam. I am running Debian 11; but I also have machines running Debian 10 and Debian 9. I would like first to get things running in Apache on localhost before uploading to a shared host on hostgator.com. Ideally, the image would be on both. The example webcamd.conf calls for a font named "clean" to write dates on the pictures, but "fc-list" does not show "clean" installed. I have tried to specify "Monospace Regular" but that does not seem to work. My latest effort has the index_up.html and index_down.hthl displaying, but no photo. I also had the photo displaying without a date. Is there a webcam application more suitable for this application? RLH a solution would be to composite the date over the photo with Graphics Magick, Image Magick. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Can't use mc's editor
On 2022-03-21 21:26, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, 21 March 2022 16:46:01 EDT mick crane wrote: On 2022-03-21 18:08, Felix Miata wrote: > Nate Bargmann composed on 2022-03-21 12:35 (UTC-0500): >> tinkering with mc's config files directly which can only be done if >> all >> instances of mc are closed. > > Not IME, at least for ini and hotlist, the former which I change > nearly as often > with mcedit as I do via menu. Hotlist I only do with mcedit. > > Mcedit is giving me no trouble. I use most than once a day most days. I don't *think* I changed mc's configuration for editor, maybe changed system default somehow. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31 . And whatever I do to it, has zero effect. I know I've changed default editor for affect in mc from vi to nano but no idea how, maybe you can change it in ~/.profile Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Can't use mc's editor
On 2022-03-21 18:08, Felix Miata wrote: Nate Bargmann composed on 2022-03-21 12:35 (UTC-0500): tinkering with mc's config files directly which can only be done if all instances of mc are closed. Not IME, at least for ini and hotlist, the former which I change nearly as often with mcedit as I do via menu. Hotlist I only do with mcedit. Mcedit is giving me no trouble. I use most than once a day most days. I don't *think* I changed mc's configuration for editor, maybe changed system default somehow. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: cups/avahi-daemon - worrying logs
On 2022-03-17 05:09, Richard Hector wrote: On 8/03/22 13:25, Richard Hector wrote: Hi all, I've recently set up a small box to run cups, to provide network access to a USB-only printer. It's a 32-bit machine running bullseye. I'm seeing log messages like these: Mar 7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [Brother\032HL-2140\032\064\032whio._ipps._tcp.local#011IN#011SRV 0 0 631 whio.local ; ttl=120] not fitting in legacy unicast packet, dropping. Mar 7 15:47:47 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [whio.local#011IN#011 fe80::3e4a:92ff:fed3:9e16 ; ttl=120] not fitting in legacy unicast packet, dropping. Mar 7 15:47:48 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [Brother\032HL-2140\032\064\032whio._ipp._tcp.local#011IN#011SRV 0 0 631 whio.local ; ttl=120] not fitting in legacy unicast packet, dropping. Mar 7 15:47:48 whio avahi-daemon[310]: Record [whio.local#011IN#011 fe80::3e4a:92ff:fed3:9e16 ; ttl=120] not fitting in legacy unicast packet, dropping. Those link-local IPv6 addresses belong to the machine itself. It currently has no other IPv6 address(es) (other than loopback), but I should probably set that up. Any hints as to what's going on? Most of the hits I get from a web search are full of 'me too' with no answers. Nobody? Not even another 'me too'? :-) Any suggestions for further/better questions to ask, or info to provide? I have no idea. Could it be something to do with this old report ? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=517683 I would probably fiddle about to get rid of the IPV6 thing. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system
On 2022-03-15 12:41, Brian wrote: Attached is the relevant portion of my preseed.cfg up to partitioning. I do that manually. "d-i netcfg/wireless_essid string MI5_Listening_Station_102" =O) -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Claws-mail Address Book Bug?
On 2022-03-13 16:02, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:51:03 -0400 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: Hello Cindy, said Google was considering court action over the use of its name as a Against who? I mean, since the term was used by everyone (for certain values of everyone), short of suing the *entire* population, what did they expect to achieve? Hoover never sued anyone for use of their name as a substitute for the term vacuuming. Nor did AVO sue for use of their name as a substitute for multimeter. Companies these days seem to be run by idiots. Clever idiots, yes. But idiots, just the same. :-) over 20 odd years ago a friend said his American friends were all complaining that their children wanted to be copyright lawyers. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: voltage monitoring Q
On 2022-03-13 08:15, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; This mobo is an ASUS Z370-AII, and I'd like to use gkrellm to monitor psu voltages and those fans that have tachs. But those are not detected by gkrellm, or any of the usual culprits. Temps are working fine. All of this did work on stretch, on this mobo. But now its running bullseye, and the last 2T seagate drive committed suicide last night so I have no backup facilities left, I assume it was a "shingled" drive, and they are the last seacrate drives I'll own... Ever. What do I install into a bullseye system, that will monitor the fans and psu voltages on this mobo? lm-sensors, mbmon and friends from the bullseye repos have been installed but apparently theres still a missing link. What might it be? with a quick look. sensor viewer that came along with default bullseye installation of Xfce looks to be xfce4-sensors. The GUI has temperatures but the tachometers tab is empty. "man Xfce4-sensors" doesn't really say how to get tachometer information. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: got a mdadm puzzler
On 2022-03-10 12:18, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I just had a bad time rebooting with 2 combined problems.. excuse my ignorance but you seem to have a lot of problems because of doing stuff most haven't attempted. Is it possible the arrangement is over complicated and that you could more easily achieve what you want by allocating one task per PC and communicating with them over ssh ? regards mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Google smtp and pop
On 2022-03-04 15:59, Marc Auslander wrote: Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password authentication for apps. I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, supports OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have to. So what suggestions does anyone have for dealing with OAUTH2 access to gmail? Seems you have to setup a separate per application password, not looked yet. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: One-user system. Was "One user system."
On 2022-02-11 19:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 10 feb 22, 11:11:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, February 09, 2022 06:08:16 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I've switched to using sudo because it encourages me to use root only > when strictly required. That's a good idea, but I'll mention what I do -- I may have started before sudo existed (or, at least, before I knew about it). I use kde and keep several konsole (terminals) open, at on one, I open it as root and set the background to be a different color than the non-root konsole (a shade of yello). (Once you pick a color for the background (or any of variety of other user preferences), you can save those so, for example, every time I open a konsole as root, it gets those preferences. I did use to have a root window constantly open and "Ctrl-a r" is still opening a 'sudo -i' window in tmux. The trouble with that is that I would tend to use the root console for non-root things. Besides, it's annoying to 'cd' in the non-root terminal in some deep directory structure only to find out you need root permissions to do what you actually needed to do when you got there. I've su'ed first before diving into the file system if I thought I was going to edit something as root but now I think should "echo $PWD" when there. copy that, "su -" and "cd paste". mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts
On 2022-01-05 19:52, Dan Ritter wrote: As previously mentioned, the mechanism for that is now "set up dovecot or another IMAP server". the dovecot wiki is very good. https://wiki2.dovecot.org/TestInstallation mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: OpenSSH: cause of random kex_exchange_identification errors?
On 2022-02-02 14:44, Vincent Lefevre wrote: When I want to connect with SSH (ssh/scp) to some machine, I sometimes get errors, either kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host or kex_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer immediately after the connection attempt. This happens randomly, and there are some periods where this happens quite often. The client machine doesn't seem to matter, and this issue also even occurs from machines on the local network. With ssh -vvv, the output ends with debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_8.7p1 Debian-4 kex_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer Connection reset by [...] port 22 In the source, this corresponds to function kex_exchange_identification in kex.c: len = atomicio(read, ssh_packet_get_connection_in(ssh), , 1); if (len != 1 && errno == EPIPE) { error_f("Connection closed by remote host"); r = SSH_ERR_CONN_CLOSED; goto out; } else if (len != 1) { oerrno = errno; error_f("read: %.100s", strerror(errno)); r = SSH_ERR_SYSTEM_ERROR; goto out; } so either with EPIPE or with ECONNRESET, and this apparently occurs before the exchange of banners. I could reproduce the issue with telnet, which gives [...] Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. while one normally has SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.9p1 Debian-10+deb10u2 just after the "Escape character..." line. Note that this is different from a "Connection refused". Here, the connection is accepted, but immediately closed. The admin of the machine could see nothing particular in the logs. He eventually modified the MaxStartups value, but this did not solve the issue (but AFAIK, if this were the cause, there would have been something about it in the logs). The machine has enough available memory. Any idea about the possible cause of these random errors? I don't know what kex_exchange is but perhaps you have more than one entry/description for the remote machine in known_hosts or something and there's a bit of pot luck. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Printing lots of pages skips a few
On 2022-02-02 10:42, Pankaj Jangid wrote: Klaus Singvogel writes: Can you look at the webinterface of CUPS regarding the missing jobs? http://localhost:631/ -> Printer -> select your default printer (if more) -> finish job (or similar) I did that when I discovered that some pages were missing. Nothing there in unfinished jobs. Also I could identify and print those files separately; using "lp ". May be an issue with the printer reporting it has printed file when it hasn't. Perhaps try wait between each print instruction. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: hostname is being reset, killing net on reboot
On 2022-01-26 15:31, Brian wrote: Having said that, 'ssh desktop.local' does not require much guidance. Is .local mDNS specific ? I thought we are supposed to not use .local for a home network. What is this ipv4only.arpa , are we supposed to use that. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: "Package was removed from Debian because of a variable name" myth (?) (was: Re: Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?)
On 2022-01-23 19:54, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: I have no idea what are your plan to reach down the road but you may get much more than you expect. I think this is what is called gaslighting. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: "Package was removed from Debian because of a variable name" myth (?) (was: Re: Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?)
On 2022-01-23 11:56, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Mick, On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:52:12AM +, mick crane wrote: On 2022-01-23 11:38, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:17:25AM +0000, mick crane wrote: > > I was a little concerned about the direction of travel when that > > software > > got removed from the repository because of variable names. > > If you're referring to the WebOOB package, that was not why it was > removed and incorrect statements like that are not helpful. > > This diff might give you an idea of some of the problems with this > software (sadly broken TLS setup so have to click through warning): > > https://gitlab.com/woob/woob/-/merge_requests/228/diffs#85eabf8cd7ee0b4611976309bd723f6ad7b301c4_785_784 That'll be it. Thanks for confirming. So would you like to retract your statement that it was removed "because of variable names"? And hopefully now that's cleared up you will feel better about Debian's direction of travel. If you insist on continuing with this I haven't seen the code that was removed and no idea what it does. The reports at the time were that it was removed for sexist type variable names. Was it removed then for Anglo Saxon expletives in the comments ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: "Package was removed from Debian because of a variable name" myth (?) (was: Re: Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?)
On 2022-01-23 11:38, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:17:25AM +, mick crane wrote: I was a little concerned about the direction of travel when that software got removed from the repository because of variable names. If you're referring to the WebOOB package, that was not why it was removed and incorrect statements like that are not helpful. This diff might give you an idea of some of the problems with this software (sadly broken TLS setup so have to click through warning): https://gitlab.com/woob/woob/-/merge_requests/228/diffs#85eabf8cd7ee0b4611976309bd723f6ad7b301c4_785_784 If you are referring to some other package, I'm not recalling it. Can you remind me which one it was please? That'll be it. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?
On 2022-01-23 08:19, deloptes wrote: Marco Möller wrote: I feel that a concise statement from Debian insiders would gain a lot to not provoke avoidable discussions and would right away defeat heat given off obstructively. As Thomas pointed out, there are hundreds of posts from years old discussions which appear to be the prelude to the current situation. Some of these public discussions have been quite controversial, partly also questioning if community processes are always taking place sufficiently transparent. Currently I find only a public statement from one party. This could harm the Debian project. Some concise statement from somebody in the Debian project with insights into the issue could prevent Debian from bad repute by declassifying which are the positions of the present disagreement. I am not aware of the current problem, but my personal observation is that there are more often such conflicts and I expect the number to rise in future. According my observation the problem is in lack of education in the fields of logic and rhetoric. The new generation (called milenials or gen Z or whatever) mostly brainwashed to the political left, but I do not exclude also the once to the right, are not able to have a meaningful debate. So what happens - again this is my personal opinion - they are not able to have a meaningful conversation over an issue and can not solve conflicts. Thus the only way is to break the communication. Sadly this is observable also in politics and I hope we do not end up in nuclear war. The first such experience I had was exactly the KDE project, when it released version 4. It was not possible to convince the developers that we need a working desktop and not just shiny one. So I had to abandon KDE. Since then I had this experience in many different situations especially with younger people. It is very sad! Again I see this problem mainly in the education, but it could have also relation to the family a person was raised in. All together it is sad that conflicts are not solved for one or another reason. This is probably an accurate observation. I was a little concerned about the direction of travel when that software got removed from the repository because of variable names. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: tmux and nano in console
On 2021-12-22 18:00, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: snipped lots of useful stuff. Also, I use Xfce and "xfce4-terminal" so my instructions may not work if your DE is different. Thanks very much I'll use those tips. I just started using tmux today and looks handy. Seems may be like screen as well which I've not really used either. I'm using because something doesn't seem to like something I've done and so far not having problems in console so likely something in X. cheers mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: tmux and nano in console
On 2021-12-22 15:34, Markus Schönhaber wrote: Since tmux knows how to cope with tmux' panes, what's wrong with using the copy/paste functionality tmux provides? OK missed that, got it now. cheers. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
tmux and nano in console
I'm trying to use the console to see if my editing problems go away. Want to copy lines from one file into another. Splitting the screen with tmux with the 2 files opened in nano the nano buffer is not shared. Seems can have more than one buffer in nano but the things I want are not in the same file. If use the mouse to select text in one file in one tmux window the selection goes across both windows/files. Is there a way in console to achieve copying lines from one file to another ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: keyboard setup
On 2021-12-20 19:11, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: did you try # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration # service keyboard-setup restart There is a wiki - https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard yes sorry for the typing error, I was getting a bit frazzled at that stage. Although the keyboard was working in terminal /etc/default/keyboard was showing pc-105 as XKBMODEL so couldn't figure where else was been set. "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and clearing. XKBVARIANT="alt-intl" XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_alt" in /etc/default/keyboard. in console seems to have done it. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
Re: keyboard setup
On 2021-12-20 19:11, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 12/20/21 18:03, mick crane wrote: Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-10-amd64 Architecture: x86-64 I'm still having trouble with random lines from elsewhere in the file I'm editing getting plonked a hundred or so lines away. Which is a pain as it can take a while to locate them. Want to use the console Ctrl+Alt+Fx for a bit and see if it's something to do with X Trouble is I can't get the console keyboard keys to do the same thing as in Xfce. I read that the keyboard map is supposed to be shared between console and X but not here. I try various things. "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-setup" "service keyboard-setup restart" reboot the PC nothing seems to work. this particular keyboard is small generic USB thing which works with Microsoft Office keyboard layout. but in console some keys are not what is on the key. eg "#" is UK Pound sign. "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-setup" does have that layout as a selection. Is there something I need to do after selecting to get it to work ? mick Hi Mick, did you try # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration # service keyboard-setup restart There is a wiki - https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard yes, sorry that was a typo in posting that's what I typed. dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration service keyboard-setup restart selecting the layout microsoft office keyboard in Xfce settings->keyboard GUI is successful. but is not used by console. mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31
keyboard setup
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-10-amd64 Architecture: x86-64 I'm still having trouble with random lines from elsewhere in the file I'm editing getting plonked a hundred or so lines away. Which is a pain as it can take a while to locate them. Want to use the console Ctrl+Alt+Fx for a bit and see if it's something to do with X Trouble is I can't get the console keyboard keys to do the same thing as in Xfce. I read that the keyboard map is supposed to be shared between console and X but not here. I try various things. "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-setup" "service keyboard-setup restart" reboot the PC nothing seems to work. this particular keyboard is small generic USB thing which works with Microsoft Office keyboard layout. but in console some keys are not what is on the key. eg "#" is UK Pound sign. "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-setup" does have that layout as a selection. Is there something I need to do after selecting to get it to work ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31