Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients
On 08/08/2016 11:29 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/08/2016 01:05 PM, Daniel Bareiro wrote: We also have security implications as the backup server and the Windows computer are in different offices, so the backup would be over the Internet. For security, you can use an SSH tunnel (Cygwin openssh on the Windows machine). Backing up over a WAN connection is only practical if your links are fast and there isn't much data. The same goes for verification, restore, and archiving jobs. Imaging is likely to be impractical. I'd consider building another backup machine and deploying it on the remote LAN. David I have done this many times. It is not that complicated. On the Windows machine make sure you have Cygwin and ssh installed. On the Linux machine create the account for the Windows machine to store backups in. Use an easy password for now. On the Windows machine at the Cygwin terminal type "ssh-keygen -t rsa". Next use "ssh-copy-id" to copy the key to the Linux machine. You will be asked for your password. Now write a script to tar cfz everything up and scp it to the Linux machine. Not as elegant as rsync, but the idea is to have a backup, mots Win machines don't have one. Test you script. Once you are satisfied it create a batch file to call the script. You have to set the actual "DOS" path to your cygwin stuff. I have pasted the actual lines from mine below: SET PATH=C:\cygwin64\bin;D:\cygwin\bin;%PATH% C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe D:\cygwin\home\mike\bin\wwwBackup.sh Now set up a scheduled task to run it every day on the Windows machine and a cron on the Linux machine to delete them after so many days so they don't fill up the disk. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org Laziness is what separates us from the beavers. More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Icedove crashes after recent update
On 08/04/2016 03:18 AM, Emile Antonios wrote: Hello, I've noticed that over the last few weeks Icedove is crashing. I've never had a problem with that before. It typically happens when clicking on or deleting an email. I don't get any error, it just closes. I'm running Jessie KDE same as: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=128931 Thanks and regards Emile I had the same problem. So I installed Thunderbird, typed "ln -s .icedove .thunderbird" in my home directory and stopped worrying about it. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org Laziness is what separates us from the beavers. More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: wicd trouble -- continued
On 07/28/2016 07:36 AM, Brian wrote: On Wed 27 Jul 2016 at 22:36:01 -0600, Glenn English wrote: On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Glenn English wrote: What does "Verifying access point association" mean After some looking around, I found that a failure in that phase of connecting means that wicd tried to ping the AP 10 times, and failed. Indeed; presumably it has decided association and authentication with the access point has successfully taken place and the interface has got an IP number. However, there does not appear to be routing between the interface and the AP. The issue is whether it is something in your setup or due to wicd. what do you do to make it OK? I still have no idea. The one suggestion I've received was to look at some websites I'd already looked at. I'd suggest you test the association, authentication and obtaining of an IP stages without using wicd. It shouldn't be necessary to stop it but systemctl stop wicd.service will do just that. Obtain the wireless interface name with ifconfig -a and start the supplicant in one terminal with wpa_supplicant -i -C /run/wpa_supplicant Read https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/07/msg00130.html and use wpa_cli as directed. After association do dhclient -v How does that go? Wicd converses with the AP enough to find the ESSID, to check that the MAC is OK, and to verify the password. But ping fails, regularly. I'd think that if it could do all that, ping ought to work. It is wpa_supplicant which does the association and authentication. I assume dhclient is used to get an IP and set up routing. If wicd manages these processes correctly one would expect pinging the AP to work. Does anybody have any idea why this might be happening? Me? Not really. :) I had some trouble with wicd which I cured by making sure that network manager was not running. Make sure NM is stopped and does not start. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org Laziness is what separates us from the beavers. More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: google-chrome-stable on Wheezy
On 06/03/2016 10:28 AM, SamuelOPH wrote: > Hi Mike, > > 2016-06-01 6:47 GMT-03:00 Mike McGinn <mailto:mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net>>: > > Hi Samuel, > It is not an issue of need, it is an issue of time. I am the software > engineer / server guy at work, so I use my laptop at work and home. When > I upgraded from Squeeze it tool more than eight hours. I simply do not > have a day to piss away right now. I will do it eventually as time > permits. > > The computer is my tool, it is not the other way around. > > > Just be careful then, because the only computer that never needs fixes > is the ones that are never used, and if you stick too long to Wheezy it > can take some time until you realize you're having more work than with > upgrading it (unless we're talking about a server), the browser issues > are the most easily seen. > > > Samuel Henrique O. P. [samueloph] I am buying a new laptop in February, this one will be eight years old by then. Then I shall start clean with Jessie. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is often difficult to verify their authenticity --Abraham Lincoln More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: google-chrome-stable on Wheezy
On 05/31/2016 11:15 PM, SamuelOPH wrote: > > 2016-05-31 21:21 GMT-03:00 Mike McGinn <mailto:mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net>>: > > Again, thanks for all the efforts. I am a bit surprised that there is > not an archive of old chrome versions. One would think they would have > the room with all the email account space that they give away. > > > We both know it isn't a matter of space, i don't think anybody would > fancy another IE6 era. > Bless them for trying to prevent it. > > I know that is your decision and you probably considered it, but i'm > gonna give it a try, do you really need to run Wheezy? > Maybe somebody can help you with any worries regarding the upgrade. > > > > Samuel Henrique O. P. [samueloph] Hi Samuel, It is not an issue of need, it is an issue of time. I am the software engineer / server guy at work, so I use my laptop at work and home. When I upgraded from Squeeze it tool more than eight hours. I simply do not have a day to piss away right now. I will do it eventually as time permits. The computer is my tool, it is not the other way around. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is often difficult to verify their authenticity --Abraham Lincoln More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: google-chrome-stable on Wheezy
On 05/31/2016 04:40 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: > Sven Joachim wrote: > > Right, I misremembered and confused a different fact. Google at one time > said it would not intentionally remove the support for 32bit > architectures from the Chromium source, so that Distributions can still > compile it. But this is of course not valid for Google Chrome. > > So the only remaining option for Wheezy is Firefox with Flash 11.2 > (which is still supported by Adobe). > > Again: time to update. > > Grüße, > Sven. > Thanks for all the effort. I do not have time to muck around with this. I restored all my files and my development tree from backups. I back up daily - and you should too. I installed the opera browser and it seems to be an ok browser - and less memory hungry than google chrome stable. Again, thanks for all the efforts. I am a bit surprised that there is not an archive of old chrome versions. One would think they would have the room with all the email account space that they give away. Best, Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is often difficult to verify their authenticity --Abraham Lincoln More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
google-chrome-stable on Wheezy
Hell All, My hard drive in my laptop took a dump on Friday, so after installing a new one I installed Wheezy since I am not ready to move to Jessie yet. The thing is, I am running the chromium-browser which is old and seems to exit randomly. I would like to install my previous working (though outdated) google-chrome-stable but I can not find a copy of the most recently installed version. Does anyone know where this might be found? Thanks, Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern * www.uucrt.org The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is often difficult to verify their authenticity --Abraham Lincoln More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Posts don't show on list
On 04/30/2016 06:05 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: >> If, like you. you like a complicated life. As I said, I achieve the >> effect just by posting through my ISP's SMTP server. > > In other words, you avoid Gmail problems by not using Gmail. Sensible > solution and it's what I do as well, but people who for some reason must > use Gmail need a different approach. > My domain is hosted on gmail, I run an exim mail server on my laptop and use fetchmail to pick up mail from a half dozen or so accounts and dovecot to run a local imap server. I have a fake domain known only to my mail system that is local to the laptop only. I bcc all mail to myself and always get a copy. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Install MSWindz 7 as Virtual Machine on Debian 8
On 11/09/2015 01:58 PM, D&P Dimov wrote: > I need to install MS Windows 7 as a Virtual Machine on a computer that > is running Debian 8. To do that, I'd like to use software that is not > proprietory (I know, I know - this may sounds a bit ridiculous...). This > Debian page: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization recommends > Qemu, KVM, VirtualBox, and Zen. Does anyone have recommendations for > which one is easiest to install for a novice? I tried the first one, > Qemu, but didn't really find a good guide how to install MS Win 7 with it. > Thanks! Virtual Box is easy for me. I have a Win 2000 VM that runs on Wheezy. I don't know about Debian 8 or Windows 7, so your mileage may vary. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU President, UU Congregation at Rock Tavern More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Terminal Madness?
I am not an alpine user, but I would make sure that there are no
instances of alpine running.
ps -ef | grep alpine
Sometimes the bear wins.
Mike
On 09/28/2015 04:26 PM, John L. Ries wrote:
> 1. Do you see any of what you describe with Debian's stock Alpine?
> 2. What version of Alpine are you compiling?
>
> I've been a regular Alpine user on all platforms (to include several
> Linux distros) since before the 1.0 release and have never seen what you
> describe. I'm now typing this message in Alpine 2.11 under Debian/Jessie.
>
> --|
> John L. Ries |
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> Phone: (619)543-8880 x107 |
> or (435)867-8885 |
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>
>
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, Bob Bernstein wrote:
>
>> I run alpine, built from source, on my Jessie:
>>
>> $ uname -a
>> Linux debian.localdomain 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
>> 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4 (2015-09-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Alpine lately seems to have trouble "remembering" changes made
>> by me to its config, e.g. adding new folders for additional
>> remote imap hosts. That is, I make a change, such as adding a
>> new folder, but if for some reason I have to exit alpine, when I
>> re-launch it the changes are not there.
>>
>> My fix was to delete .pinerc and launch alpine from "scratch,"
>> rebuilding the config I need "by hand." NOW, here you may well
>> ask,
>>
>> "But Bob! Surely this is a question for the alpine list, not a
>> debian list, n'est-ce pas?"
>>
>> But wait! Now I see my new hand-cranked config is not behaving;
>> changes made are not working. I close alpine, and as I edit in
>> jed the .pinerc lines that are misbehaving I notice they have
>> been altered ("corrupted"). Then (my hand to God I) AS I STARE
>> AT THE LINES IN JED CHARACTERS ARE CHANGING "ON THEIR OWN"
>> WITHOUT ME TOUCHING A KEY.
>>
>> I am in an xterm window running in icewm, and its config looks
>> like this:
>>
>> xterm -fg white -bg black -geometry x26 -fa 'Deja vu Sans Bold'
>> -fs 24
>>
>> (I've since changed to Luxi Mono just as a test of sorts.)
>>
>> ===> Has anyone EVA seen text file characters in an editor just
>> change before their eyes without any intervention from the
>> operator?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Bernstein
>>
>>
>
>
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Mike McGinn KD2CNU
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More kidneys than eyes ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Can't get sound to work
On Friday, January 16, 2015 14:23:21 Doug wrote: > On 01/16/2015 01:24 PM, Robert Latest wrote: When I had a new install I found that the mixer levels were all at zero. Found it after an hour of troubleshooting. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501161433.29846.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Recent upgrade 'broke' sleep & hibernate in KDE Plasma Battery Monitor
da_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi > snd_hwdep 13186 1 snd_hda_codec > snd_pcm_oss41081 0 > snd_mixer_oss 17916 1 snd_pcm_oss > snd_pcm68083 4 > snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi > snd_page_alloc 13003 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel > arc4 12458 2 > snd_seq_midi 12848 0 > joydev 17266 0 > coretemp 12898 0 > snd_seq_midi_event 13316 1 snd_seq_midi > snd_rawmidi23060 1 snd_seq_midi > acpi_cpufreq 12935 1 > crc32c_intel 12747 0 > brcmsmac 473905 0 > cordic 12352 1 brcmsmac > crc8 12426 1 brcmsmac > i915 378651 5 > brcmutil 12905 1 brcmsmac > acer_wmi 26081 0 > mac80211 192806 1 brcmsmac > snd_seq45126 2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi > mperf 12453 1 acpi_cpufreq > sparse_keymap 12760 1 acer_wmi > ghash_clmulni_intel13130 0 > cfg80211 137243 2 mac80211,brcmsmac > snd_seq_device 13176 3 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_midi > snd_timer 22917 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm > snd52893 22 > snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm_ > oss,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_cod > ec_hdmi iTCO_wdt 17081 0 > video 17683 1 i915 > processor 28149 1 acpi_cpufreq > drm_kms_helper 31370 1 i915 > drm 183952 6 drm_kms_helper,i915 > i2c_i801 16870 0 > i2c_algo_bit 12841 1 i915 > rfkill 19012 5 cfg80211,acer_wmi,bluetooth > cryptd 14517 1 ghash_clmulni_intel > wmi13243 1 acer_wmi > i2c_core 23876 6 > i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801,drm,drm_kms_helper,i915,videodev > psmouse69265 0 > iTCO_vendor_support12704 1 iTCO_wdt > ac 12624 0 > soundcore 13065 1 snd > battery13146 0 > serio_raw 12931 0 > power_supply 13475 2 battery,ac > evdev 17562 26 > button 12937 1 i915 > thermal_sys18040 2 processor,video > pcspkr 12579 0 > ext3 162072 1 > mbcache13114 2 ext3,ext4 > jbd56902 1 ext3 > usbhid 36418 0 > hid81372 1 usbhid > sg 25874 0 > sr_mod 21899 0 > cdrom 35401 1 sr_mod > sd_mod 36136 4 > crc_t10dif 12348 1 sd_mod > ahci 24997 3 > libahci22941 1 ahci > ehci_hcd 40249 0 > libata140630 2 libahci,ahci > sdhci_pci 17976 0 > sdhci 27053 1 sdhci_pci > usbcore 128741 6 ehci_hcd,usbhid,usbserial,pl2303,uvcvideo > scsi_mod 162321 4 libata,sd_mod,sr_mod,sg > mmc_core 68400 2 sdhci,sdhci_pci > usb_common 12354 1 usbcore > tg3 119064 0 > libphy 19057 1 tg3 > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 38773523581140 296212 0 35284 564972 > -/+ buffers/cache:2980884 896468 > Swap: 5171196 45171192 > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate suspend > suspend: > > /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend: > Having NetworkManager put all interaces to sleep...Failed. > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant suspend suspend: > Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or > directory > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend: not applicable. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend: not applicable. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron suspend suspend: success. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95hdparm-apm suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95hdparm-apm suspend suspend: not applicable. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: not applicable. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: not applicable. > Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler suspend > suspend: > Kernel modesetting video driver detected, not using quirks. > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler suspend suspend: > success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend: > kernel.acpi_video_flags = 0 > > /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend: success. > Tue Jan 13 07:09:37 AEDT 2015: performing suspend > > >> Excerpt from /var/log/pm-suspend.log (post upgrade - broken) ends > > Please help. > > Thanks > > Alex -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501140658.00844.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:45:53 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > Jerry Stuckle writes: > >> On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >>>> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life > >>>> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or > >>>> interested) in spending their life working on Linux. > >>> > >>> If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people > >>> to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone > >>> who is serious about using Debian in production does this. > >> > >> That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? > > > > Simply mirroring the question is not an answer. > > > > Don is right; what have you done for Debian that they should be obliged > > to maintain the distro in ways you want? > > > > If you want something, the answer is always the same in Free Software: > > either do the work yourself or pay for it. No-one is obliged to do > > things to your liking without some consideration coming from your end. > > > > Mart > > Mart, > > I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I > want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients > are changing distributions. Period. > > It's you and others who have demanded people spend money they don't have. > > If you want them to help Debian, then are you going to pay for it to > happen? If not, who (besides my clients) is going to pay? > > When you can answer that, I can answer your question. > > Jerry This is the problem with Linux, folks use it to make money and feel no obligation to contribute to it. Even if they do not contribute development time, they could budget an annual donation to the Linux Foundation, Debian or whatever distribution they use. Linux developers eat too. They would be paying a license fee if they were using MS or a commercial Unix. Just my thoughts. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Speed up a WiFI interface ??
On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 13:14:19 Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: > Hello, > > For a friend i setup a small RAID-1 config using Wheezy on one of his > old machines, just to backup his most important stuff. Unfortunately the > location where the box is placed can not be reached via cable because of > building conditions, so only Wireless is possible. > > I have installed package "firmware-ralink" for the network card and > these modules are loaded after reboot: > > rt2800pci > rt2800lib > rt2x00pci > > After using wpa_passphrase and adding wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces > all works so far, the client get´s an ip from the dhcp server, can copy > stuff and so on. > > The Problem is that it´s extremely slow. > > The WLAN-Router is setup to support 11bgn mixed mode, channel bandwith > "audo" and max transfer rate 150Mbit/s. > > But when i check the client side with iwconfig i get this: > > wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"My friends SSID" >Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462 GHz Access Point:MAC-Adress >Bit Rate=58.5 Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm >Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off >Encryption key:off >Power Management:off >Link Quality=45/70 Signal level=-65 dBm >Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 >Tx excessive retries:5788 Invalid misc:58 Missed beacon:0 > > The wlan-card is supposed to support 150Mbit/s as well. > > I have tested and position the box right next to the wlan-Router but > this doesn´t help much except the Link Quality is then 70/70. > > I have used iptraf to check for the data rates and the overall input > rate for this interface is about 5,8 Mbit/s which is not even 5% of the > max (theoretical) speed. I know that the max speed of a WLAN is never > reached but 5,8 Mbit/s overall speed seems very slow to me - no? > > Anything i can do to speed this up? > > Thanks, > > BF. Just because the card will support 150Mbit/s does not mean the system will. The computer has other things to do besides see to the network, and the router has other connections to service and the system on the other side has other things to do too. It all adds up. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: VPN IPSec (Cisco vpnc)
Here are the fields in my default.conf for vpnc and what I use them for: IPSec gateway this is the IP you use to access the vpn IPSec IDwe use this as the ID for the company. IPSec secretthis is the key Xauth username we don't use this Xauth password we don't use this Vendor ciscoI think vpnc uses this Local Port 1 Debug 1 sets the logging level - higher = more logging On Thursday, December 11, 2014 13:38:52 Hajder Rabiee wrote: > Ok thank you for your reply. > > I'll have a second round with the IT admins. The question remains if the > pre shared key is the same as the group password? If not, how is it > specified in vpnc? > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Frédéric Marchal < > > frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com> wrote: > > 2014-12-11 8:04 GMT+01:00 Hajder Rabiee : > > > Hi > > > > > > Trying to connect to VPN at work but keep getting: "vpnc: no response > > > > from > > > > > target". > > > > > > I have created my vpn.conf in /etc/vpnc/myconf.conf and also added > > > Local Port 1 as I've read some posts that the particular error > > > message > > > > might > > > > > have to do > > > with a block in the firewall. Comparing with OSX - where the VPN works, > > > > the > > > > > only difference is that I have to specify a group name in Linux. I have > > > talked to the IT admins and gotten the correct group name. I wonder > > > > though > > > > > is the Group Password the same as the shared key? Otherwise how do I > > > specify it? > > > > I followed this tutorial to connect to Palo Alto GlobalProtect using > > vpnc protocol: > > > > > > http://blog.webernetz.net/2014/03/31/palo-alto-globalprotect-for-linux-wi > > th-vpnc/ > > > > The group name and group password are distinct parameters. The IT > > admin should give you both in addition to your own credentials. > > > > In the case of Palo Alto, it was necessary to enable X-Auth. I don't > > remember the error message I received when it was not enabled. OSX, > > Android and Windows with the GlobalProtect client don't need the > > X-Auth protocol. Only Linux's vpnc needs it. You may have some similar > > settings on your VPN server. > > > > I configured the vpn using the Network Manager in KDE so I don't know > > about /etc/vpnc. > > > > Make sure you are not trying to connect to the VPN server from inside > > the lan. It doesn't work on my network. I can only connect from the > > wan. > > > > I also had to circumvent another problem after the connection was > > established. The route to the gateway is set to 128.0.0.0/1. Half of > > the internet address space is routed through the VPN tunnel. I had to > > configure vpnc to ignore the default route and add my own custom > > routes (I did all of this in the Network Manager). OSX and Windows > > receive the correct route though. I have yet to investigate more > > deeply into that problem. > > > > Frederic -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Conflict of interest in Debian
Comments inline below: On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 06:37:57 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : > >> On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > >> > >> wrote: > >>> Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : > >>> >On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >>> >>Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, > >>> >>surprise. > >>> > > >>> >Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe > >>> >betide any > >>> >company that actually gets us there... > >>> > >>> Maybe you want. > >>> But I think that most users just want it to work fine and > >>> efficiently, which does not necessarily imply being sold massively > >>> around the world. > > I would have 'thought' all users want "it" to be "useful" - but surely I > miss your point? (was there a point? I can only work with the words you > write and it reads like sophist rhetoric, assume the first nonsense is > not and it follows that neither is the second). As far as I'm aware > Debian has *never* been sold anywhere, nor are there plans to - did I > miss another meeting down the docks? > > >> He's doing some of the work on Debian; others work with different > >> distributions. They get what they want. Users get what they want. > >> Everyone's a winner. :) > > > > Maybe. But, when someone tries to sell stuff a lot, to have a big market > > share, then that guy must take a large target, which leads to systems > > which might become less stable or less efficient. And if that guy want > > to keep his market, then he'll have to avoid people escaping his stuff, > > this is why vendor locks exists. > > I could quote you Adam Smith on commerce and conspiracy - though I > seriously doubt he ever meant there are no non-business conspiracies. He > was smarter than that. > I used to run Red Hat on some of my servers. We paid RH for support. Years ago when I worked for Philips T & M we sold service contracts. The economic incentives for the seller are much the same as when you sell support. You make the most money when you supply the least support. That would give RH an economic incentive to make sure things are as reliable as possible. Businesses buy these contracts because they can not afford downtime. The upside for the business is they have a contract specifying a response. It is expensive to send folks out to fix stuff. Red Hat contributes a lot of patches. They pay people to work on the kernel. IBM employs the author of Postfix who provides support on the Postfix list. These companies are investing in Linux because it makes economic sense for them to have Linux as solid and reliable as possible. We all benefit from these investments. > But it'd be more pertinent to note that servers cost money to run and > Debian (and the FSF) do a good job of not allowing any contributions in > labour or money to control it's production or direction. To allow the > former would be both foolish and ignore the nature of Free Open Source > Software. I can't think of any distro that doesn't accept assistance > from business. > With the possible exception of Hairshirtix (forked from > SelfFlagellantOS) but I'm pretty sure they haven't produced any actual > working code. ;) > > > Definitely, I hope that Debian won't take that road. > > Likewise, and I'm sure Intel don't want RedHat driving anymore than > RedHat want Google in control - even if IBM was prepared to let them, > and in the end it's still down to the programmers. And can only buy so > much with a paycheck. (last time I checked Linus gets paid to work on > the kernel). Another thing to note is that people have to eat. If companies like IBM and RH did not pay developers to work on Linux those people would have to work somewhere else. Maybe they would be at Google, Microsoft or Facebook. I have been hearing a lot of unwarranted chatter about the evils of the PID 1 replacement because Red Hat used. I do not hear so much about people pulling the patches contributed by Red Hat out of the kernel. All you people are accomplishing is raising the price of tinfoil. > > > It it does, then, > > I'll switch. I'm taking a look at netBSD, even if I guess that I'll have > > a hard time being successful in feeling as comfortable with it than with > > Debian. > > Here's a good place to start your "looking":- > http://www.netbsd.org/contrib/org/ > > Kind regards -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"
On Saturday, October 04, 2014 06:44:43 Tom Collins wrote: > Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System" > > On google searches debian pages still turn up like this: > Debian -- Mailing Lists - Debian -- The Universal Operating ... > > When you go to the page "The Universal Operating System" part is gone. > A reflection of the problem with the scumbag debian developers > failing to explain how "The Universal Operating System" squares > with shoving syst__d, gn_me/gtk3, down our throats, and > "depreciating" (as if they have the right to do that) many > programs that rely on gtk2 and non-syst__d. > > Ofcourse they ban you from posting the mailing list on the > first critical mention of systemd. > Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed. > > Give us back the debian packagers of an earlier age. Where do you get the nerve? What have YOU done besides complain? These developers who VOLUNTEER their time, you dare call them a name. We know who the scumbag is. It is you. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201410041350.49463.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271)
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 13:59:40 Joe Loiacono wrote:
> By default I have seemingly assumed sysadmin duties for a host running
> Debian 6.0.7 (squeeze). So (not having done a lot of this before) ...
>
>
> 1) the system bash is vulnerable
>
> > env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
>
> vulnerable
> this is a test
>
> 2) bash is version 4.1.5
>
> host: bash --version
> GNU bash, version 4.1.5(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
>
> 3) There are no upgrades
>
> $ apt-get install bash
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> bash is already the newest version.
>
> Would you mind recommending how best I should proceed?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joe Loiacono
Joe -
I updated my Squeeze box this morning. Try as root:
apt-get update
then ---
apt-get upgrade
Mike
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Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:54:44 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:11:03PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote: > > > 1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve > > > it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems, > > > and the replacement did not fix it. A modular system has to support > > > all init systems, including systemd, clones and custom inits. > > > > While you're at it how about also making sure we can have a dietlibc or > > uClibc version of Debian? After all, depending on glibc is also not very > > good. Oh, and don't forget about udev and X.Org. There is already work > > in progress trying to compile Debian with something other than GCC, so > > you don't need to worry about that. > > > > Yes this is a joke, but only in part. It's very interesting how suddenly > > people are so worried about Debian being tied to one piece of software, > > while this has been happening all along. > > I just had a look and didn't realise how closely Debian is reliant on the > C language! Surely, this can't be good! The entire kernel is written in C. A language is just a tool. That is like saying "The sink was installed with a wrench! Surely, this can't be good!" -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201409231340.02412.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:17:19 Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:24:07 -0400 Steve Litt > > napísal: > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700 > > > > Don Armstrong wrote: > > > Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this > > > mailing list. > > > > Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable > > dependencies have nothing to do with Debian-Users, it's merely an > > interesting discussion for developers. > > Sure, the developers discussion is OT here. But, please, what when > these things (developers decisions) affects the users? > > Now it seems, that the users can here post only: "The DD are best and > their choices are the best" and anything critic is OT here. If yes, then > "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ... > > regards Every developer decision affects the users. As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the ones doing the work get to make the decisions. If you want to be in on the decisions, pick an orphaned package. I have been Treasurer of my congregation for six years and will stand for President next year. I hear lots of complaints from people who are unwilling to do any work to make the organization work. To all I say: "Either help or get out of the way." Red Hat is shipping systemd with RH 7. If one were to google "redhat systemd" the RH systemd documentation can be found. I spent some time reading this last night. I found some of the features compelling. Since Red Hat focuses on reliability over all else, I really doubt that systemd will destroy your system. Linux will survive and perhaps thrive with or without you. Best to all, Mike McGinn -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201409161256.29490.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Abusive, Insulting and Off Topic e-mails do not belong on debian-user or any other Debian Mailing list.
On Sunday, June 08, 2014 10:32:20 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 8/06/2014 10:58 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > In the past few days, there have been many insulting, abusive and off > > topic messages sent to this mailing list. > > For the public record, I need to make it clear that posts made by an > aggrieved other user of this mailing list have no merit. > > Such fraudulent posts have been made using both his/her own mail address > and what appears to be at least one /special fraudulent/ address created > expressly for the purpose of spreading misrepresentation about other > members of this list (myself included). > > This matter is potentially very damaging to reputations and may lead to > legal actions at any point should they continue. > > If any phantom email arises claiming to be myself or representing me in > any way, please ignore it. Any and ALL posts to this list from myself > will be from this same email address that I am sending from right now. > > Also, it is my intention to digitally sign each message using my public > GPG key, which has these details: > > pub 2048D/B7EFE2FB 2012-04-12 > Key fingerprint = >C902 8307 B42E 98C9 D2DF 8D43 A816 6BCB B7EF E2FB > uid Andrew McGlashan > uid Andrew McGlashan > uid [jpeg image of size 2732] > sub 2048g/10921186 2012-04-12 > > Should I create a new key, then it will be signed by the above key. > > If I fail to sign any genuine messages to this list going forward, then > it will be likely be accidental. In the past I have usually only signed > emails to this list when they were replies to emails that were > themselves signed. > > Kind Regards > Andrew McGlashan Are we still in preschool? All about how aggrieved who, who insulted who, he took my truck ... Get over it. You are ruining this for those of us who are adults. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406081303.06664.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
On Thursday, June 05, 2014 09:36:09 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:11:25 +0100 > Terence wrote: > > Hello Terence, > > >Surely there must be a reason why my spam filter keeps putting "Horatio > >Leragon" posts into my "Spam" folder, and results in the list telling me > > That's how google seem to deal with yahoo's 'DMARC p=reject' policy. > > >they are receiving bounces from me. > > That surprises me. I was under the impression that google didn't bounce > that stuff. OTOH, the person I got the info from admit that their > research so far is extremely limited. Horatio ends up in my spam folder too. With all the vaunted beyesian learning Google brags about they still haven't figured it out. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406050953.36601.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: no plugins under Chrome
On Sunday, June 01, 2014 08:28:40 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 1/06/2014 9:43 PM, Mike McGinn wrote: > > What a mess! I have been forcing the version in Synaptic on > > chromium-browser to 34.0.187 ... and it says that is what is installed > > after doing a complete removal. But "about" on the browser still reports > > 35. > > Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your view, this is how Chrome > works. As part of the *security/update* model, the product does > automatic updates -- you may be able to turn off automatic updates, but > it might give you grief when it comes to safety and/or security. > > I know we are all just meant to trust Google, but I don't think we > should be doing so blindly. > > Cheers > A. It might be time to dump chrome. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406011341.42133.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: no plugins under Chrome
On Sunday, June 01, 2014 01:27:07 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2014, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I have been trying to get pipelight to run under Sid and Chrome, in > > order to use Netflix, to no avail, when I stumbled upon this: > > https://answers.launchpad.net/pipelight/+question/249016 > > > > Which says in effect release 34 removed the complete NPAPI plugin > > interface, so its not possible to use any other plugins (besides the > > integrated PepperFlash one) anymore. > > That's Cnrome v35 that's without the NPAPI, not v34. You need to > read more carefully. Downgrading to v34 is the "fix." > > > If you need plugins other than PepperFlash, forget Chrome. Too bad. > > I just updated to v. 35 a week or so ago, and just noticed today that > VLC and its plugin don't work, but do work in Iceweasel. Wondered what > happened. Now I know. > > B What a mess! I have been forcing the version in Synaptic on chromium-browser to 34.0.187 ... and it says that is what is installed after doing a complete removal. But "about" on the browser still reports 35. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406010743.56262.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: can't get wicd to work
Hmm, Thought about it. Typed: adrastea ~ 26 $ apt-cache search tigon firmware-linux-nonfree - Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel Have you installed the non-free firmware? If not please do so and start again from: m-a a-i broadcom-sta Mike On Monday, May 26, 2014 19:45:24 tom arnall wrote: > @ Mike McGinn > > I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR CODE INTO A BASH FILE AND RAN IT. THE INSTALL > MESSAGES SEEMED OK, EXCEPT THIS AT THE VERY END: > > Update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 > W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin for module > tg3 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso.bin for > module tg3 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3.bin for > module tg3 > > > > > THE RESULT SEEMS NIL: > > Root@debian:/home/tom/system# ifconfig -a > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1c:23:2f:f3:8f > inet addr:192.168.0.14 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::21c:23ff:fe2f:f38f/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:2184 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:1934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:1049826 (1.0 MiB) TX bytes:400101 (390.7 KiB) > Interrupt:17 > > loLink encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:1915 (1.8 KiB) TX bytes:1915 (1.8 KiB) > > root@debian:/home/tom/system# iwconfig > lono wireless extensions. > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > root@debian:/home/tom/system# > > > > > > I CHECKED DMESG AND THE WIFI RELATED STUFF SEEMS THE SAME BEGINNING WITH: > > [ 13.170160] wl: module license 'MIXED/Proprietary' taints kernel. > [ 13.170165] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint > [ 13.182091] wl :0c:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 > [ 13.184710] wlan%d: 5.100.82.112 driver failed with code 21 > [ 13.184737] [ cut here ] > [ 13.184792] kernel BUG at > /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common/include/net/cfg80211.h:2209! > [ 13.184848] invalid opcode: [#1] SMP > [ 13.184984] CPU 1 > [ 13.185031] Modules linked in: wl(P+) i915(+) snd_hda_intel(+) > joydev snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep drm_kms_helper snd_pcm drm pcmcia > snd_page_alloc snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_timer lib80211 snd cfg80211 > yenta_socket soundcore pcmcia_rsrc dell_laptop dell_wmi pcmcia_core > evdev sparse_keymap i2c_i801 dcdbas acpi_cpufreq iTCO_wdt > iTCO_vendor_support rfkill i2c_algo_bit battery ac psmouse serio_raw > coretemp i2c_core pcspkr mperf wmi power_supply video processor button > ext4 crc16 jbd2 mbcache sg sd_mod crc_t10dif sr_mod cdrom usbhid hid > thermal ata_generic thermal_sys uhci_hcd ehci_hcd ata_piix libata > firewire_ohci firewire_core crc_itu_t tg3 libphy scsi_mod usbcore > usb_common [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] > [ 13.188397] > > > > > > I HAD TO RUN THE BASH SCRIPT TWICE BECAUSE AT WHAT SEEMED TOWARDS THE > END OF THE PROCESS I ACCIDENTALLY HIT CTL-F9 OR WHATEVER AND LOST THE > TERMINAL. SO I RAN THE SCRIPT AGAIN WITH STDIN AND STDERR REDIRECTED > TO A FILE. I CAN SEND THAT OUTPUT IF YOU THINK IT WORTHWHILE. THERE'S > A LOT OF JUNK CHARS IN IT, I GUESS BECAUSE PART OF THE INSTALL > MESSAGING USES SOME KIND OF HALF-BAKED GRAPHICAL. BUT THE MESSAGES > SEEM ALL TO BE IN THERE. > > > > I'M NOT USING NETWORK-MANAGER: > > Root@debian:/home/tom/system# apt-get purge netwng dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Package 'network-manager' is not installed, so not removed > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded. > root@debian:/home/tom/system# > > > > > > thanks btw to everyone who is helping me. > > Tom -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405262040.31665.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: can't get wicd to work
00990 [8.948007] RDX: RSI: > 88007b254f40 RDI: [8.948007] RBP: > 880036c4d400 R08: 0002 R09: fffe [ > 8.948007] R10: R11: 8800370b6000 R12: > 88007b254800 [8.948007] R13: R14: > 88007b613ac0 R15: 0011 [8.948007] FS: > 7f48bc96d700() GS:88007f50() knlGS: > [8.948007] CS: 0010 DS: ES: CR0: 80050033 > [8.948007] CR2: 7f48bc1c8000 CR3: 3716a000 CR4: > 06e0 [8.948007] DR0: DR1: > DR2: [8.948007] DR3: > DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400 [ > 8.948007] Process modprobe (pid: 514, threadinfo > 880037132000, task 880036dc5100) > [8.948007] Stack: > [8.948007] a041cc8b 88007b254800 88007b254f40 > 880036c4d400 > [8.948007] a041694b 88007b254800 880036c4d400 > 88007c14e000 > [8.948007] a0417189 880037133ce8 22b0b063 > c934 > [8.948007] Call Trace: > [8.948007] [] ? wl_cfg80211_detach+0xf/0xb6 [wl] > [8.948007] [] ? wl_free_if+0x27/0x7e [wl] > [8.948007] [] ? wl_free+0x51/0x201 [wl] > [8.948007] [] ? printk+0x43/0x48 > [8.948007] [] ? wl_pci_probe+0x485/0x4b0 [wl] > [8.948007] [] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0xe/0xf > [8.948007] [] ? __pm_runtime_set_status+0x118/0x13c > [8.948007] [] ? local_pci_probe+0x39/0x68 > [8.948007] [] ? pci_device_probe+0xcd/0xfa > [8.948007] [] ? driver_probe_device+0xa8/0x138 > [8.948007] [] ? __driver_attach+0x4f/0x6f > [8.948007] [] ? driver_probe_device+0x138/0x138 > [8.948007] [] ? bus_for_each_dev+0x4f/0x7a > [8.948007] [] ? bus_add_driver+0xa5/0x1f5 > [8.948007] [] ? 0xa05bafff > [8.948007] [] ? driver_register+0x8d/0xf5 > [8.948007] [] ? 0xa05bafff > [8.948007] [] ? __pci_register_driver+0x4d/0xb6 > [8.948007] [] ? 0xa05bafff > [8.948007] [] ? do_one_initcall+0x75/0x12c > [8.948007] [] ? 0xffffa05bafff > [8.948007] [] ? sys_init_module+0x10c/0x25b > [8.948007] [] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b > [8.948007] Code: b5 08 07 00 00 48 c7 c7 ad c4 56 a0 31 c0 e8 69 > 07 f3 e0 eb 0a 4c 89 e7 31 db e8 ec f7 ff ff 89 d8 5b 5d 41 5c c3 48 > 85 ff 75 02 <0f> 0b 48 8b 3f e9 9e fe ff ff 41 54 41 89 c8 55 53 48 89 > fb 48 > [8.948007] RIP [] wdev_priv+0x5/0xf [wl] > [8.948007] RSP > [8.954564] ---[ end trace 1fb03c896022003d ]--- > > > > > I AM NOW STUMPED ;o( -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405260950.36933.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
Comments below On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:52:43 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: > csanyi...@gmail.com writes: > > So I tried with this setup: > > iface eth0 inet static > > > > address 217.17.111.173 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > but it doesn't work. I built a gateway / router / vpn / firewall at work using Debian Squeeze. The first thing I noticed is that you did not define a gateway for eth0. That could be your problem. This is normally defined for you by the dhcp server, so you would have not needed it before, but you probably need it now. Mike > > Say, the output of the command 'ping gnu.org' is: > ping: unknown host gnu.org > > >>> My ISP > >>> > >>> --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1 > >>> > >>> LAN > > The LAN part of my home network works, I have setup a DHCPD server for > eth1 interface. I can connect from LAN to my GW with SSH client. > > -- > Regards, from Paul -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405231209.01310.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Debian 5
On Monday, May 19, 2014 15:40:05 Jim Harris wrote: > I ran into a situation whereby a server was not well maintained and > contains some critical scientific information for someone I know. It has > not been properly maintained since the system was put together using very > talented computer people at the time, but have since moved on to other > things. It is running Debian 5 and has not been upgraded since that time. > We checked the archives, however they seem to be closed at this time. > Would you say this person is “screwed” in that they cannot upgrade to the > latest version? If it can be saved, what would be a suggestion? Thank > you. > > > Jim Harris, CAPM > Research Coordinator > Bioreactor Group, McGowan Institute for Regenerative Medicine > University of Pittsburgh; 3025 East Carson Street, Pittsburgh PA 15203 USA > phn +1- 412.383.7460 fax +1- 412.383.9460 > Hi Jim, I would suggest identifying an backing up the scientific data. I would suggest putting a backuo program in place and auditing the backups to make sure that all the scientific data is backed up. Only then would I think about upgrading. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405191622.01505.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 0}
On Friday, March 21, 2014 14:22:18 Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hello, > > I do not remember when I see last term syslogd printing messages on the > terminal in X (konsole in KDE to be precise). But I do remember that these > messages indicated serious issues :0( > > The worst thing is I do not even understand what the system wanted to tell > me. From the syslog, I can speculate on a rcu_sched self-detect stall > (therefore I copied debian-kernel). I am running kernel 3.13 since a few > days. Can anybody help here? > > > Any hint is welcome. > > Many thanks, > Rainer ** after poking around - I think it could be a memory problem. Very rough guess here - and I am probably wrong. The combination of the tainted swap and the /dev messages would lead me to first check the hard drive. Boot into a rescue disk and run fsck and see what you get. Good luck, and I will be watching this thread to see what the answer is. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403211526.54484.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 0}
or directory > Mar 21 14:29:10 www syslogd: /dev/:1: No such file or directory > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260233] Stack: > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260234] c1015cd4 edb4421f f749c000 > c1016396 c10919a9 10fe296c edb4421f > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260240] 4d11762a > c1035b8e > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260245] 9da374a5 4d11762a > 01020800 > Mar 21 14:29:10 www syslogd: /dev/:0: No such file or directory > Mar 21 14:29:10 www syslogd: /dev/:1: No such file or directory > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260250] Call Trace: > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260255] [] ? > default_idle+0x14/0xa0 > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260258] [] ? > arch_cpu_idle+0x16/0x20 > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260263] [] ? > cpu_startup_entry+0x1b9/0x200 > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260266] [] ? > start_secondary+0x1ce/0x240 > Mar 21 14:29:10 www syslogd: /dev/:0: No such file or directory > Mar 21 14:29:10 www syslogd: /dev/:1: No such file or directory > Mar 21 14:29:10 www vmunix: [118396.260268] Code: 00 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 > 00 fa c3 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 fb c3 8d b4 26 00 00 00 > 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 fb f4 8d b6 00 00 00 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 > f4 c3 8d b4 26 00 00 > Mar 21 14:29:10 www ddclient[3535]: WARNING: file /etc/ddclient.conf, line > 8: Invalid Value for keyword 'login' = '' > Mar 21 14:30:25 www vmunix: [118490.575735] [drm:intel_crtc_cursor_set], > cursor off > > Any hint is welcome. > > Many thanks, > Rainer Very rough guess here - and I am probably wrong. The combination of the tainted swap and the /dev messages would lead me to first check the hard drive. Boot into a rescue disk and run fsck and see what you get. Good luck, and I will be watching this thread to see what the answer is. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403211458.41309.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Debian on a Dell Latitude E7440
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 15:28:32 Craig L. wrote: > Hello list, > > Sadly, my 11 year-old Toshiba laptop has become physically unusable*, and > I will be receiving a new laptop at work. We are looking at the Dell E7440, > and my initial look tells me I will be getting something that should run a > pure Debian main installation, but I figured I would ask to be safe. > > > Thanks, Craig > > *Hinges broken beyond repair. 11 years old with just 512MB of RAM, but > still running Wheezy with an XFCE desktop just fine! Case is cracked, > battery lasts about ten minutes, touchpad is dead, and the screen has > several scuffs. Still, it is a shame to see it go. When the hinges went on my Toshiba I was able to attach a small piece of metal to the back to hold the screen up. Got another two years out of it. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403201603.36721.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Great Debian experience
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:32:10 Ken Heard wrote: > It never ceases to amaze me that there are people can get various > iterations of Debian "working out of the box". Ever since Sarge I > have had no end of trouble either with new installations or upgrades, > to the point that I dread every new iteration. I would have switched > long ago to another operating system except for the fact that every > other one I looked at was worse. > > My latest experience was a new installation of Wheezy in a new box. > It took me the entire month of January to get the OS and essential > applications to the point where the machine became usable. Yes it > works, but so does a Ford model T. For example I wanted to use LVM > but the attempt broke the installer. I still have not got sound working. > > So what is the secret? > > Ken Heard I don't know Ken. I came over to Debian from Ubuntu. The last Ubuntu release that I consider good was 8.04. I went over to Squeeze before Wheexy became stable. The only hassle I had was with the Broadcomm wireless drivers. When I updated to wheezy, again the only hassle was with the wireless drivers. That took about an hour. I use the KDE desktop. Amarok is crap in Wheezy, so I use Clementine. I use the system for at least twelve hours a day, and except for having to restart the display manager every few days to keep Clementine from getting pissy there have been no problems. For the record, I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with 4G of memory, Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy). Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201403191114.45699.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Why Debian
I use debian because I used to use Kubuntu. I started with Mandrake, watched it become Mandriva, tried 'buntu with 7.04. I loved it. It worked great, the community was great. I was an LTS guy, don't like the six month upgrade cycle. I have other things to do with my system rather than install software and upgrade it. My computer is a tool, not my life. Than the quality of the releases kept getting worse - even the LTS releases. It was as if the Cannonical QA Department was partying all the time. Also there was the whole Kmail-Akanodi-Nepomuk fiasco going on with the Kmail developers (NOT 'buntu's fault). If I went beyond 10.04 on Kubuntu I would have to migrate over 10 years of email from kmail to something else. Don't want to do that. So I got acquainted with Squeeze and later Wheezy. I am happy. I can do my work and other things. I don't get a kernel update every two weeks. Hibernate works on my laptop (another 'buntu hit or miss). I have 46 days of uptime on the laptop I lug everywhere. I will stay with Debian because once I get it set up the way I want it, it stays out of my way. Mike On Saturday, November 09, 2013 09:00:36 legacy daily wrote: > I use Debian because it has stayed true to its principles and because its > > > > - ld > > http://legacydaily.com > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella < > > es204904...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Note: Since I'm not subscribed to this mailing list at the moment, please > > send also a copy to my email when replying. > > -- > > > > Normally I write very short, like a Haiku <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > > Haiku>; but I think this letter shall be the exception. So excuse me 😳 > > > > > > *** > > > > THE HISTORY > > > > *** > > > > My name is Alberto Salvia Novella <https://launchpad.net/%7Ees20490446e>. > > Till 2008 I investigated how to create a Windows based reliable desktop > > computer system, till I did it and I realized nearly no one else will be > > able to do it without expending great amounts of time and money. > > > > One night I dreamed I had a very old looking but robust operating system > > installed on my computer, and eventually realized that what I should do > > is to look for something that was like what I saw. Although at the time > > I didn't know a thing about any other operating systems different to > > Windows or even libre software, I downloaded and tried in deep about > > fifty different operating systems from the time intensively for three > > years. > > > > Without reading a line of other people opinion, it seemed to me at the > > time Ubuntu was by far the best option in overall. But latter it went > > very buggy, and I began to pose myself why was that. What seemed more > > probable to me is Canonical chose to make radical decisions and, rowing > > against tide, selected to do something very different from what other > > distributions had done to the moment; in order to discover how they > > could make libre software to grow in popularity. > > > > Being between jumping to other distribution (Debian or Mageia) and giving > > this mind scope of Canonical a try, I decided five months ago the best > > action I could do was to get more involved with the project and empower > > it from its roots; and see what will happen and what the real problems > > are. > > > > After five months; the latest project coordinator of the "One Hundred > > Papercuts <https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts>" project, from > > Canonical, has asked me to take on the project. So; with the help of the > > team; I have redesigned branding and project goals, and have make a > > serious commitment to make it shine <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One% > > 20Hundred%20Papercuts/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts%20will% > > 20make%20Ubuntu%20shine>. > > > > > > > > > > THE POINT > > > > > > > > The point is yet very simple: I suspect Debian has a mindset that makes > > it stand out, I can imagine what kind of values these are, and I want > > them to become widespread. And now I feel I have the opportunity to show > > and convince the Ubuntu community to adapt them, and probable with it > > many people around the world. > > > > So I wanted to ask you the following question so it can't be said it's > > only my imagination. Summarizing: > > > > Which are the very important reasons why do you prefer Debian over > > Ubuntu? > > >
Re: itunes under debian
On Tuesday, September 03, 2013 14:16:49 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Am Dienstag, 3. September 2013, 19:23:20 schrieb Pascal Obry: > > Le 03/09/2013 19:00, Mike McGinn a écrit : > > > Has anyone in this group had any luck getting iTunes to work under > > > Linux? > > I believe, iTunes10 can be installed in Playonlinux, when you set a mark in > the "testing" option. > > Sorry, but I did not test it, but I tested iTunes (do not know, which > version, I believe it was 9) using wine. > > However, iTunes is a crap, maybe there is an alternative? If he just wants > to listen music and not buy frome the store, he might take a look on > "amarok". > > Best > > Hans Unfortunately he buys a lot of music from the store. My friend will get his Windows 7 going for a case of microbrew, but I am looking into Mint now also. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201309031432.09316.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
itunes under debian
My sons computer with Windows 7 has become non-functional. He is willing to switch to linux, but having itunes work with his iPod and the music store is a must have for him. So far I have tried PlayonLinux v 4.2.1 under Squeeze, which informed me that USB does not yet work under Wine. I have Wheezy and Ubuntu 12.04 installed in VMs. I had no luck yet with getting it to work under 12.04, I will be trying with the Wheezy VM as soon as I get a chance. Has anyone in this group had any luck getting iTunes to work under Linux? -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201309031300.57749.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: QRZ?
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 07:04:08 Jeff Bauer wrote: > Just out of curiosity, any Debian amateur radio operators care to ID? > > 73, > > Jeff, WN1MB Sure will, general class ticket, slowly working on extra. I am in Orange County, NY and a member of OCARC. Just do tow meter repeater stuff for now. 73, Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201308241014.06321.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: what happened to the task bar??
On Friday, June 28, 2013 13:22:40 Jeff Shearer wrote: > Yeah, I tired to switch to KDE but as I have said, when I reboot I get KDM > but then up comes gnome rather than KDE. Have you tried right clicking on the menu and selecting a kde session? Mike > > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: what happened to the task bar?? > > From: "Erwan David" > > Date: Fri, June 28, 2013 1:02 pm > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > -- > > > Le 28/06/2013 19:00, Wayne Topa a �crit : > >> On 06/28/2013 10:28 AM, John W. Foster wrote: > >>> I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I > >>> > >>> still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to > >>> Wheezy > >>> > >>> went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that came > >>> > >>> with this upgrade. Some folks may be ok with all the desktop changes, > >>> > >>> however I am not. I did try them and decided I don't care for the new > >>> > >>> 'features' ( have to work way too hard to do my work). Anyone know how > >>> > >>> to get the customizable taskbar back? > >>> > >>> john > >> > >> +10 to that, John. > >> > >> > >> > >> I will not do another upgrade. New install of a new dist for me. > >> > >> > >> > >> WT > > > > You will get the same behaviour in any distrib using gnome 3. > > > > > > > > What you can o (and you can do it in debian) is choose another > > > > environment. Debian gives you the choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > > > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51cdc1b8.2050...@rail.eu.org > > Thanks, > > > > Jeff Shearer, CISA, CISSP > > --- > > (703) 615-6997 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/shearerjeff -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201306281327.36142.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: Aptitude: "1 not upgraded"
On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 17:19:19 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 26 June 2013 18:15:38 David Guntner wrote: > > Looks like it's that weird "Google Chrome being held back" thing that > > was mentioned recently. > > I know of at least two computers still running Squeeze where Google Chrome > has complained that it cannot upgrade. > > Lisi Make that three computers still running Squeeze where Google Chrome has complained that it cannot upgrade -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201306261850.28748.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: kmail under wheezy
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 02:38:28 Dick Thomas wrote: > On 19/06/13 02:06, Mike McGinn wrote: > > Hi All, Is anyone using KDE and Kmail under Wheezy? How does it > > work? Is it stable enough to use or should I wait to update from > > Squeeze? > > > > Thanks, Mike > > Hi-ya, Mike > > I tried KDE on Wheezy and other than an audio issue that caused > crackling on my desktop but not on my other machines > and I also couldn't import ovpn files in to network manager, I had no > problems with KDE for over 3 weeks as for Kmail, tbh I never tried > fully it as I couldn't get it to work with my Hardware GPG key but > that was an issue with me being an idiot and gpg-agent leftovers from > my gnome days > > I'm currently using Jessie and I think most of KDE other than the > fixes for my Wheezy problems are the same. > > > If you do upgrade and find it works I'd be interested to hear your > thoughts as I'm currently using Ice-dove and I'm sure I read somewhere > that It has been dropped by Mozilla and I need a replacement client > > > > Dick Thomas Thanks Dick, I am still on the fence. Having used Kontact for almost ten years, I do have a bit of saved mail. I moved from Kubuntu 10.4 to Squeeze to avoid the Kontact issues in the newer Kubuntu releases. Now that I have my wireless working, there is no great pressure to move. I must say how pleased I am the Squeeze is less buggy than Kubuntu was. I should have moved sooner. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201306190856.35737.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
kmail under wheezy
Hi All, Is anyone using KDE and Kmail under Wheezy? How does it work? Is it stable enough to use or should I wait to update from Squeeze? Thanks, Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201306182106.05641.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: VPN Connections
On Friday, March 15, 2013 11:10:13 Verde Denim wrote: > On 03/15/2013 10:52 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > Hello Verde, > > > >> Am I correct in assuming that in order to setup a vpn connection > >> on wheezy i need to install vpnc (or open-connect) ? > > > > That completely depends what VPN server you want to connect to. I for one > > use OpenVPN on both the server and the client side. So first you have to > > know what the server side is using in order to know what protocol the > > client side has to use. Then you need to determine which software > > supports that protocol. > > > > Bonno Bloksma > > Bonno > Thanks for the reply. The connection is a Cisco IPSec connection to a > vpn at work. I have a similar connection on a company-issued Mac (don't > hate - I didn't ask for it). I want to set up the connection on my > Debian box for additional testing. The server side (afaik) is a Windows > server with a stack of Cisco 55xx gear. Not sure what other info you > might need to assist, so feel free to ask. I would see if vpnc would work. That is what I use to connect to a Cisco pix at our colo, the only thing is that i disconnects every hour or so when the firewall rekeys. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303151143.08800.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: moving from Kubuntu 10.4 to squeeze
Hi Martin, On Sunday, January 27, 2013 08:57:39 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hi Mike! > > > 1) Use Wheezy. As I wrote it still has KDEPIM 1 as of KDE SC 4.4.11 which > means that it will have it during its complete lifetime according to the > Debian stable policy. I am writing from such a KDEPIM 1 :). In fact its the > only KDEPIM available officially as of today. > > > 2) I strongly recommend you to subscribe and follow debian-kde mailing > list. Its a low volume, high signal to noise ratio mailing list where > Debian kde users are subscribed to, also experienced ones!, as well as > Debian Qt/KDE maintainers and some KDE upstream developers. There has been > a discussion about KDEPIM 2 in KDE SC 4.10 recently for example. > > > 3) You can find some KDE SC install instructions on the website of the > Debian Qt/KDE maintainers: > > http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ > > These give an overview over the packaging structure. > > > 4) If after a while you feel adventurous or want to try possible newer > versions, read: > > http://qt-kde.debian.net/ > > Currently there are KDE SC 4.9.5 base packages available there which work > quite nicely. Stay away from them for now tough, in case you use KDEPIM > with mutiple identifies with different sent folders as that is broken > currently. And really subscribe debian-kde mailing list if you intend to > use packages from there. > > > Hope this increases the signal to noise ratio in that thread again a bit. > > Ciao, Thanks for the tip. I'll try Wheezy in a VM first as I did with Squeeze. I seem to prefer the Debian way of doing things over Ubuntu anyway. For instance I always create a root account. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301271401.07336.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: moving from Kubuntu 10.4 to squeeze
On Friday, January 25, 2013 19:13:45 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 24.01.2013 18:06, Mike McGinn a écrit : > > On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:54:40 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> -Original Message- > > and what about #service mysql restart? > I'm starting to think using directly the script is too slow to type, > unlike services, which sounds to do exactly same thing? that is upstart. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301251939.50415.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: moving from Kubuntu 10.4 to squeeze
On Friday, January 25, 2013 08:11:48 Rob Owens wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:05:00AM -0500, Mike McGinn wrote: > > I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with 4G of RAM and have been a 'buntu > > user since release 7.04. With each release of the new OS from Kubuntu I > > have been less and less happy with the so called "quality" and I am > > planning a move to Debian. As a Kontact user the problems reported with > > the new versions of that particular package are dictating the move to > > Squeeze. (I subscribe to both the kde-pim users and developers mail > > lists.) > > > > I have been experimenting with an installation in a virtual machine and I > > am getting ready to make the jump. I am happy with what I have > > experienced in my VM and I just want to know if there are any pitfalls I > > have not foreseen. My system is backed up every night, so I am not > > worried about losing anything. > > Squeeze is fairly old at this point, and will be replaced shortly (a few > months, maybe?) with Wheezy. Squeeze will still be supported for a year > after that -- or have they committed to two years now? But my point is > that you might want to consider Wheezy. Wheezy is currently the > "testing" distribution, but will be released as "stable" as soon as it's > ready. > > If you run into any hardware compatibility issues with the stable > release, you can always look into getting a newer kernel from the > backports repository: > deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main > > -Rob Hi Rob, Thanks for the information on Wheezy. My main concern now with KDE is avoiding the mess that is going on with the kde-pim, I have been using that for years and have a few gig of email stored in it. Right now I want to use the older version. I did some research last night (google) and found no incompatibilities with my laptop. The new version of kde-pim has been a mess for some time now and from the traffic on the developers and users list there is no end in sight. I will move to Wheezy when it becomes stable and if it has a usable kde-pim. I do have several servers at work that I am going to be moving from Ubuntu server to Debian also. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301250924.12054.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: moving from Kubuntu 10.4 to squeeze
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:54:40 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Mark Allums > Sent: Thu 1/24/2013 17:34 > > > The most noticeable difference to me has been the lack of drivers. > > Debian does not use http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ . Not an issue. I prefer typing: "/etc/init.d/mysql restart" as an example -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301241206.10235.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
Re: moving from Kubuntu 10.4 to squeeze
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:34:08 Mark Allums wrote: > The most noticeable difference to me has been the lack of drivers. You are > pretty much on your own finding drivers for things. Debian supports older > hardware quite well, but there is usually a long wait for it. > > Upgrades from release to release are more tricky than Ubuntu. It is > sometimes easiest to just install the new version "clean". > > If you run packages from Testing (starting, say 6 months after a release), > go all out in Testing . Mixing distributions leads to heartbreak. Ditto > Sid. IF you run things from Sid, you're better off running a full Sid > system rather than a mixed system with some packages from Testing and some > from Sid. > > The only things to get from Experimental are possibly the latest iceweasel, > or a new kernel. But wait on the latter until the kbuild package is > released, if you are going to need the kernel headers to compile hardware > drivers (the classic example being nvidia-glx kernel module). The headers > depend on linux-kbuild, and the kernel guys often don't get around to > packaging it right away. > > I'm sure there are people with better advice, Keep it coming, guys! Thanks Mark, that is some good info. The only proprietary driver I had to install was for the wireless, which I got from Dell. The laptop uses an Intel graphics chip (I forget which one), but there was a bug with the drivers in one 'buntu version (again I forget, might have been 10.04) which just about drove me nuts until it was fixed. I bought this laptop in early 2009,so it is by no means "new". Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301241149.59733.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
moving from Kubuntu 10.4 to squeeze
I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with 4G of RAM and have been a 'buntu user since release 7.04. With each release of the new OS from Kubuntu I have been less and less happy with the so called "quality" and I am planning a move to Debian. As a Kontact user the problems reported with the new versions of that particular package are dictating the move to Squeeze. (I subscribe to both the kde-pim users and developers mail lists.) I have been experimenting with an installation in a virtual machine and I am getting ready to make the jump. I am happy with what I have experienced in my VM and I just want to know if there are any pitfalls I have not foreseen. My system is backed up every night, so I am not worried about losing anything. -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301241005.00329.mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net
