Re: exim4 problem delivering locally
You should be able to deal with that situation with the exim4 mini-wizard, try 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config'. Or you can edit the file produced by that program, /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf (not a mistype) and /etc/mailname and run update-exim4.conf as suggested in the configuration file. This wizard will have run at the installation of exim4, but it can be re-run as required. [...] Thanks Joe. Editing /etc/mailname got me close enough to my goal that I won't deal with exim4-config. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/12563212.1284446519914.javamail.r...@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net
exim4 problem delivering locally
Hello. I've configured exim 4.72 in Debian Squeeze to send mail externally though a smarthost, but now local sending of mail doesn't work as I expect. My machine is host-1.mydomain.local. How do I get exim to send all mail for *.mydomain.local to host-1.mydomain.local? In other words, I want mail for mu...@mydomain.local to go to mu...@host-1.mydomain.local. How is this done? PS. I'm hoping to be able to do this without setting up a name-server locally, because I've never done that before, and I could mess things up even more. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/23345754.1284345600949.javamail.r...@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net
Re: aptitude forces full-upgrade
Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/2010 04:49 PM, Mumia W.. wrote: I just upgraded Squeeze, but I had to use apt-get rather than aptitude because aptitude wanted to force me to install a lot of new programs (do a full-upgrade). [...] I'm not sure, but maybe aptitude wants to install recommends. If you run aptitude -s -R safe-upgrade, it want to install all new stuff ? Thanks. I have recommends disabled: Saratoga:apt.conf.d$ Saratoga:apt.conf.d$ cat * | grep Recommends Aptitude::Recommends-Important false; Saratoga:apt.conf.d$ Saratoga:apt.conf.d$ apt-config dump | egrep '(Recommends|Suggests)' APT::Install-Recommends false; APT::Install-Suggests 0; Saratoga:apt.conf.d$ Saratoga:apt.conf.d$ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: aptitude forces full-upgrade
Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de On 01/02/2010 04:49 PM, Mumia W.. wrote: I just upgraded Squeeze, but I had to use apt-get rather than aptitude because aptitude wanted to force me to install a lot of new programs (do a full-upgrade). [...] The difference between safe-upgrade and full-upgrade is that the latter may *remove* packages in order to upgrade other packages. Both operations might install new packages in order to satisfy the new dependencies of already installed packages. If you don't want that to happen, you can pass the switch --no-new-installs. Most probably your problem has something to do how Recommende/Suggests are handled by apt-get/aptitude. Maybe, but why didn't apt-get upgrade do the same thing? On Etch, aptitude upgrade and apt-get upgrade always did the same thing. Has something important changed about default (upgrade-only) dependency handling? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
aptitude forces full-upgrade
I just upgraded Squeeze, but I had to use apt-get rather than aptitude because aptitude wanted to force me to install a lot of new programs (do a full-upgrade). I specifically entered the command aptitude safe-upgrade; however, it wanted to install a lot of extra packages--many more than apt-get upgrade; I also noticed that aptitude full-upgrade and aptitude safe-upgrade have the same result--aptitude wants to install many more packages. My /etc/apt/preferences is non-existent, and here is my /etc/apt/sources.list: Squeeze deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian squeeze main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian squeeze main contrib non-free Lenny deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian lenny main contrib non-free Sid # deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian sid main contrib non-free --- Has anyone else seen this? What can I do, if anything, to get safe-upgrade working normally again? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Keymap not loaded at boot time (Squeeze)
Hello Debian users. After upgrading Squeeze, I couldn't help but notice that the Caps Lock key wasn't working. After a little investigation, I discovered that the keymap isn't loaded at boot. If I load the keymap (loadkeys /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz) manually, Caps Lock comes back, but when I reboot it's gone again. It seems that the keymap is supposed to be loaded in /etc/init.d/console-setup, but that doesn't happen for some reason. This looks like a bug in Squeeze; does anyone else see this? Should I report the bug? (Note, I'm not subscribed so please CC me with any responses). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Missing mountavfs after compiling avfs from Sid
On 04/18/2009 09:35 PM, Mumia W.. wrote: Hello. I'm using Debian Etch, but I want the avfs package which is in Sid, so I downloaded the source from Sid and built it, but I can't mount the filesystem because the mountavfs command is missing. [...] That happened because I had forgotten to install libfuse-dev. It's too bad the ./configure script didn't complain. Oh well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Missing mountavfs after compiling avfs from Sid
Hello. I'm using Debian Etch, but I want the avfs package which is in Sid, so I downloaded the source from Sid and built it, but I can't mount the filesystem because the mountavfs command is missing. The instructions in /usr/share/doc/avfs/README.avfs-fuse say to use the mountavfs command, but that command is missing from the avfs package. The only command installed is /usr/ftppass. I see this message shortly before the build completes: # Make install creates /usr/sbin but we don't need it. rmdir /home/user/download/fuse/avfs-0.9.8/debian/avfs/usr/sbin I know that mountavfs is supposed to be in /usr/sbin because I checked it using apt-file; however, maybe the maintainer wants another method to be used to mount the filesystem. How do I get avfs working? Here is my system information: Debian 4.0 Linux 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 avfs 0.9.8 libfuse2 2.5.3 fuse-utils 2.5.3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
OT: welcome back (was Re: Running app full-screen)
On 10/13/2008 09:04 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I think (its been many years since I tried) that most if not all X apps will accept a --geometry setting on the command line. Once you get that right, there's a file (I forget the name) in your home directory that maps Xresources (that may be the file name) like geometry to application names. I hope that this points you in the right direction. Doug. Welcome back Douglas. I hope you had a great vacation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to put another distro's stanza in menu.lst
On 10/13/2008 08:59 PM, H. S. wrote: [...] Now, if understand this right, with that rootnoverify stuff in Debian grub, that entry will lead me to FC9's grub, correct? In that case, I still don't have the grub.conf in FC9's grub. How do I go about getting that? grub-install seemed not to work in that regard. Thanks. My Debian system doesn't have a grub.conf but a /boot/grub/menu.lst instead. I create boot stanzas by modifying menu.lst, but I've heard that FC users need to edit grub.conf. Perhaps FC has a special command for this. Anyway, in your main grub.conf/menu.lst, if you want to use the chainloader, you could do this: titleChain-load of /dev/sda13 rootnoverify(hd0,12) chainloader+1 boot If you want to boot the kernel directly, you might have this put in there (watch out for typos and word-wrap): titleFedora Core 9 on /dev/sda13 (2.6.25) root(hd0,12) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 root=UUID=3cfc63bf-9e84-49a3-90ad-3fa623141200 rhgb quiet vga=792 selinux=0 initrd/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 boot I have no idea what the rhgb and selinux=0 options do; I just copied them from your original command line. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load web page with Flash movie -- System freeze?
On 10/13/2008 11:30 PM, Carl Fink wrote: [...] This sounded really promising. I was going to try it. But now the stupid computer won't boot past setting the system clock in Linux. Still works fine in Windows. Time to reinstall again, I suppose. This is becoming stupid. I sincerely hope you can get your computer back to working soon. With that sort of problem, I recommend changing the CMOS backup battery if you haven't changed it in a couple of years. Use a hardware diagnostic CD first to help you narrow down the range of possible hardware problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to put another distro's stanza in menu.lst
On 10/13/2008 09:38 AM, H.S. wrote: Hello, I just installed Fedora Core 9 alongside Debian. During the installation I did not update grub and chose not to install grub since I wanted to retain my Debian grub configuration. I have done this before. I just change Debian's grub to put in the relevant stanzas for my FC kernel (was FC8 till today). [...] I can't see why it doesn't work since you seem to have the bases covered. When faced with the need to install two Linuxes on the same box, I usually install only one copy of Grub to the MBR. All other Linux OS's are set to install to the superblocks of their partitions. That allows me two advantages: I can use chain-loading for the secondary OS's, and each Linux OS has perfect boot stanzas in their respective /boot/grub/menu.lst files. I recommend installing Grub under FC9, but install it to the superblock of /dev/sda13--NOT the MBR. You should then have a perfect boot stanza written to Fedora's menu.lst. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling the 2.26.6 kernel on debian.
On 10/10/2008 02:28 PM, Michael Habashy wrote: Guys and Gals - I tried to compile the kernel on 2.26.6. I did NO modification to the kernel just generic. I get the following error: Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods That's harmless. then it is followed by a lot of : Waiting 16 seconds for /*sys/block/sdb/sdb1/dev* to show up. /bin/cat: /*sys/block/ sdb/sdb1/dev*: *No such file or directory*. *Device* /* sys/block/sdb/sdb1/dev * ** [...] Did you copy the old config file from your currently running kernel to .config and do make oldconfig as Ron advised you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables script - where to put it?
On 10/10/2008 09:04 AM, tyler wrote: Hi, I'm trying to learn how to firewall my laptop. I think I've got an appropriate, simple iptables script, but I can't figure out where to put it. Google provides lots of conflicting advice. I think it's supposed to go in /etc/init.d/? What do I need to do with this file to get it to run every time I boot? The actual content is copied below. [...] /Etc/init.d/ is the right folder, but your script must be structured properly too. The script must respond to the commands start, stop and restart. For an example, see /etc/init.d/gdm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System Hangs
On 10/09/2008 02:20 AM, chinna p wrote: Hi, I'm using Debian Etch stable 32 bit on Pentium- 4 2.4 GHz, 512 MB RAM . Frequently i'm facing one problem, Display is simply crashing . No mouse/keyborad responce . Other than rebooting no other solution presenlty. Did any body know possible reason and solution !!! Try disabling (temporarily) direct rendering. If I have direct rendering enabled when the wrong screensaver activates, I get an immediate system freeze. To experiment with disabling direct rendering, comment out the line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf that reads 'Load dri' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I prevent Grub from getting automagically updated?
On 10/07/2008 04:09 PM, Aniruddha wrote: Every time a new kernel gets installed, my menu.lst gets updated. Problem is, that it always points to the wrong hard drive. Therefor I would like to stop Grub from updating automagically. How can I achieve this? You can add a boot stanza after the end of the automagic kernels list; that stanza won't be changed by the update-grub script. Read man update-grub and info grub -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for a lazy gui
On 09/30/2008 10:20 PM, John O'Hagan wrote: Hi Debianistas, I recall stumbling upon a program in the Debian archive which was a simple GUI - a customisable row of buttons and text-boxes - and which could be hooked up to any script, as a shortcut to actually writing a gui (which i can't do). It would be perfect for a Python program I want my non-CLI-using colleagues to be able to use; problem is, I can't remember what it's called. Anyone out there remember? Thanks, John Try out zenity. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Importing bookmark file
On 10/01/2008 04:29 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: I'm trying to install my ubuntu firefox bookmark file into 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 iceweasel. I copied it into /etc/iceweasel/profile after renaming the original file. the problem is iceweasel is ignoring the new file and still showing the bookmarks from the original, even though it is renamed. The owner, group, and permissions are the same as the original. Tried importing using iceweasel's bookmarks-organize bookmarks-import- bookmarks.html (from where I had it stashed...$HOME) with no luck. If anyone has any advice, pointers, etc on how to proceed I would appreciate hearing them. I would think that the method you described above should work, but you may have to move places.sqlite to another folder where Iceweasel can't see it. Upon starting, Iceweasel should rebuild places.sqlite (the Iceweasel 3.0 bookmarks file) using the data in bookmarks.html (the old Iceweasel 2.0 bookmarks file). If that doesn't work, look here for more information: http://kb.mozillazine.org/ . The Firefox section may help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables LOG
On 10/01/2008 03:05 AM, Adam Hardy wrote: Out of interest, will dmesg -n X survive a reboot? Or is there another config option for this? No, it wouldn't survive a reboot. You can place the command in /etc/init.d/rc.local. You can also modify /etc/sysctl.conf. Kernel.printk is the value you would want to change, and on my Etch system, line 10 has a sample kernel.printk line that is commented out. See if uncommenting that works for you. You can also read at you leisure man systcl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables LOG
On 09/29/2008 02:03 PM, Marcin Kłapkowski wrote: I set iptables rule for logging. # iptables -I INPUT -m limit --limit 15/minute -j LOG --log-level 4 --log-prefix firewall: It's logging in warning level. And my logs goes to kern.log file. It's for now, but more over, this logs are flooded into console tty if i'm without X. [...] To find out how to stop this, read man dmesg and inspect the -n option. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting Multiple Shell Variables from One Run of awk
On 09/30/2008 01:48 PM, Martin McCormick wrote:
Right now, I have a shell script that does the following:
hostname=`echo $NEWDEV |awk 'BEGIN{FS=.}{print $1}'`
domain=`echo $NEWDEV |awk 'BEGIN{FS=.}{print $2}'`
top0=`echo $NEWDEV |awk 'BEGIN{FS=.}{print $3}'`
top1=`echo $NEWDEV |awk 'BEGIN{FS=.}{print $4}'`
That looks inefficient (dumb) so I ask, is there a way
to assign the fields in an awk expression to shell variables as
one runs awk once?
Being able to do that would mean one run of awk instead
of the 4 shown here and, if file accesses are involved, there is
only one of those.
Thanks.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
The bash shell can do this internally since it supports arrays:
NEWDEV=${NEWDEV//./ }
NEWDEV=($NEWDEV)
echo hostname: ${NEWDEV[0]}
echo domain: ${NEWDEV[1]}
echo top0: ${NEWDEV[2]}
echo top1: ${NEWDEV[3]}
Of course you're free to assign the array elements to variables if you
desire. See man bash for more about arrays.
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Re: Problem compiling 2.6.26 kernel
On 09/28/2008 02:49 PM, Arthur Barlow wrote: I did check the settings in .config. Both BLK_DEV_IDE and BLK_DEV_IDEDISK are set to y. As for the ATA/SATA settings, they were not set, but my disk is an older one and should not care, but I tried setting them and trying again, and I got the same result. The drive is a Western Digital 40G drive, model WDC WD400JB-00FMA0. As I mentioned it's using Reiserfs 3.6. Also I got the source code from Debian's repository. It's just a Debianized tar ball. That is quite confusing. As the boot messages fly by, you can stop them by using Control-S. Another Control-S allows the boot-up to continue. Use that method to pause the display long enough for you to see how your IDE drives are recognized by the kernel. I have messages like these: ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ... hda: HDS728080PLAT20, ATA DISK drive ... ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 I would hope that you have something similar. Also try roots of /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 and /dev/sda1. Even though those are not likely to work, it's probably worth a try. Can we see the entire boot stanza used by LILO? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to install package using apt-get in folder other than /usr
On 09/29/2008 10:07 AM, Kruti wrote: Hi.. Can someone help me regarding how to install a package in any user defined folder other than /usr using apt-get? I don't think this is possible. You can however download the file using wget and install the .deb using dpkg-deb. Why do you want to do this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Music/Audio CDROMs, DVDs, Etch kernel Security Update.
On 09/29/2008 07:44 AM, D Bray wrote: The following is a record of a problem we had here with a debian Etch Security Update that we performed on 26 Aug. 2008. It has now been resolved. The culprit seems to have been the linux-image-2.6.18-5-686_2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch6_i386.deb kernel package. However, there seems to be no maintainer for this or related packages. http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 leads to a set of No maintainer for linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 pages! Did you look at the Maintainers section of that page? Hence, if anyone has a better idea of where this bug report may be submitted, the info would be appreciated. Thanks, DB [...] $ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 | grep Maintainer Maintainer: Debian Kernel Team debian-kernel [at] lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem compiling 2.6.26 kernel
On 09/27/2008 10:42 PM, Arthur Barlow wrote: I have used Debian for many years and I have always used the kernel-package program that is included with Debian to compile new kernels. I have an older Athlon PC that has the Reiserfs 3.6 on it. After I do the make-kpkg --revision= ## kernel-image and then use dpkg -i to install the new kernel, I keep getting a kernel panic. The message reads like this: VFS: Cannot open rootdevice 301 or unknown-block(3,1) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are available partitions: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1) It appears to have trouble mounting the file systems. I've never run into this before. The boot manager is still lilo and there is a root=/dev/hda1 statement in the lilo.conf file. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. You seem to be the second person in two days who has complained about this. Has kernel.org changed how IDE devices are accessed? For the time being, you can probably boot using a root of /dev/sda1. The problem is probably that the kernel IDE driver (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE) is not being loaded before libata (CONFIG_ATA). I'm running 2.6.26.5 with a config file that I've used for about a year; I generally get my kernels from kernel.org. It would be interesting to know where your kernel source comes from. Also, please give us the output of these commands: grep BLK_DEV_IDE .config grep CONFIG_S\?ATA .config BTW, I have both BLK_DEV_IDE and BLK_DEV_IDEDISK set to y. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAMDISK:Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0 ... (etch)
On 09/27/2008 09:34 AM, Gerard Robin wrote: Hello, my box works fine since about two years with etch, and this morning I installed cupsys, hplip ... I rebooted the machine and I got: -8 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input.input0 RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0 VFS: Cannot open device 302 or unknown-block (3, 2) Device (3, 2) sounds like an IDE device, /dev/hda. Please append a correct root= boot Kernel panic My machine seems ok, because it boot correctly on puppy.(on an USB drive) The mbr seems ok, I can boot windows or linux until Kernel panic ... I use: the package debian linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 an the bootloader lilo. /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 Can someone gives me a clue to solve the problem otherwise that to reinstall etch entirely on my box. Thanks in advance. Modern Debian kernels use libata to drive both SATA and IDE disks. Disks that have been taken over by libata will appear as /dev/sd? , so I think you need to set your root partition to /dev/sda. Others will instruct you on how to use UUID in Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cmake and Scribus 1.3.5 on Debian testing
On 09/23/2008 05:08 PM, John Culleton wrote: [...] I continue on with the cmake follies. I got through the Jpeg, tiff, png etc. stumbling blocks but now I am hung up on python. Here is the error message: --- CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:52 (MESSAGE): Could NOT find PythonLibs Call Stack (most recent call first): /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindPythonLibs.cmake:86 (FIND_PACKAGE_HANDLE_STANDARD_ARGS) CMakeLists.txt:451 (FIND_PACKAGE) --- I tried loading various libs etc. including one called pythonize but no joy yet. Suggestions? The typical incantation for preparing to build from the source suggests this: apt-get install build-essential apt-get build-dep scribus That should bring in all of the build dependencies for scribus. Read man apt-get and search for the build-dep command. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: palm syncing woes
On 09/20/2008 08:01 AM, Neil Watson wrote: Hello Folks, The dance I've had to perform with jpilot and my Z22 that involves the correct order and timing of activating sync on both the Palm and jpilot is getting frustrating. It always takes me multiple tries to successfully sync. I did some research and found some information that suggest that using the userspace libusb instead of the visor kernel module would allow a more reliable sync. I attempted this but now I cannot sync at all. Is pilot-link built against libusb to allow 'usb:' to be listed as the port? Is there a good howto somewhere that describes how to make syncing more reliable? I've had success using kpilot to backup my Palm T|X. Note, restoration does not seem to work, and generally kpilot is k-crap; however, it's better than nothing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Novel Suse not friendly to real linux world? and how about Red hat and Debian?
On 09/19/2008 12:58 AM, Sebastian Günther wrote: * Star Liu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [19.09.08 06:46]: 4. Do Debian has the danger of IP lawsuits created by microsoft? I would say no, and just because there is no money to get from Debian. Remember this is just about money... No, it's about power. Microsoft wants to become a global O/S monopoly, and abusing the broken patent system can help them achieve that. The fact that Debian doesn't have the resources to defend itself in a lawsuit does not protect Debian in any way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH/SSHD local LAN only
On 09/19/2008 12:32 PM, Lubos Vrbka wrote: well, if i understood the question correctly, this should do. put to file /etc/hosts.allow: ALL:ALL put to file /etc/hosts.deny: sshd: .your.domain.com allowed_ip_addresses allowed_networks allowed_hostnames you can put more or less anything on the line and control who's allowed to connect (man hosts.deny). i'd say it is straightforward and works immediatelly without a need to (re)configure a firewall. best, Those look backward to me: file: /etc/hosts.allow: ALL: LOCAL 127.0.0.0/8 sshd: 192.168.0.0/24 file: /etc/hosts.deny: ALL:ALL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/log on tmpfs
On 09/18/2008 03:16 AM, Lubos Vrbka wrote: hi guys, i have set my /var/log to be on tmpfs (i have ssd and want to avoid logs being written on it). the problem is, that for example syslogd complains that /var/log/news/* files are missing. indeed, there is no news subdirectory in /var/log. the same applies, e.g., to apt (/var/log/apt/...) - so what would be the correct procedure in this case? i don't care that much about the logs themselves, this is just a notebook... thanks for info! best, I don't recommend placing /var/log on tmpfs. Instead I recommend you take one of these actions: 1: Edit /etc/syslog.conf so that logs are written to a tmpfs filesystem. You can place /tmp on tmpfs, so logs can go under /tmp/log/. 2: Edit /etc/syslog.conf so that no logging takes place; read man syslog.conf; you'll probably end up commenting out some lines. 3: Disable system logging using sysv-rc-conf or something similar. You might target sysklogd and/or klogd for disabling. The above ideas assume that the only logging you don't care about will come from syslog. If you truly don't care about /anything/ that might be written to /var/log/, you can go ahead and place it on tmpfs, and copy a template (or skeleton) over that filesystem at boot. The template would contain the files and directories needed by the applications that use /var/log. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting proxy server addres on non graphics interface Debian-etch
On 09/18/2008 12:42 PM, Oscar Corte wrote: Hi: I recently installed Debian basic configuration with no gdm) I'd like to use lynx in order to access the Internet but I don't know where to set the prosy server. View /etc/lynx.cfg and search for HTTP_PROXY. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: common-process-args does not allow arguments in STARTUP variable
On 09/08/2008 01:40 AM, Marco Clocchiatti wrote: in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20x11-common_process-args at line 36: STARTUP_FULL_PATH=$(/usr/bin/which $1 || true) please change $1 with $0, because startup function does not allows arguments. for example, a konq.desktop such the following fails: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11/Xsession.d$ cat /usr/share/xsessions/konq.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 # The names/descriptions should really be better Name=Internet_konqueror Name[it]=Internet_konqueror Comment=seleziona questa etichetta per navigare con konqueror Comment[en]=click here to browsing with konqueror Exec=/usr/bin/konqueror --geometry 1280x1024+0+0 Icon= Type=Application /usr/share/xsessions does not seem to be the correct directory for general desktop icons, and konqueror already has an icon in /usr/share/applnk/. You can create a script to launch konqueror with your preferred geometry, or you can use konqueror's view profiles feature: Settings- Configure view profiles. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emacs has hard time with big text files
On 09/05/2008 07:19 AM, Martin wrote: When I open big text file (46M in this case) emacs take long time for moving cursor and editing. It takes 3-4 seconds to process every key press. Is this only my case or is emacs in general sluggish with big files? Martin How much RAM do you have? What distribution is this? What emacs plugins do you have installed? What kind of file is this? What emacs startup scripts are activated when you load that file? What other CPU-hogging processes are running at the same time? I can't see how opening a 46MB file should be a problem on a modern machine. I don't have emacs installed since Vim is already configured :-P , but neither vim nor jed[0] have any problems opening a 157MB text file here; however, I have 512MB RAM. [0] Jed is a cut-down emacs clone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?
On 09/03/2008 12:34 AM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: Mumia W. wrote: I care. The AGPL is dangerous to Opensource. It is too aggressive and too restrictive. As Opensource becomes more dominant, software-as-a-service (SAAS) will become the primary way for people to make money through software. The AGPL threatens to cut off Opensource from its primary means of acquiring income and maintaining relevance. How does requiring source code be available do anything to hurt the open source movement? Companies and people that protect and promulgate OSS withdraw. I'm pretty sure software-as-a-service doesn't mean proprietary enhancements to open source software that we don't want to contribute back to the community for competitive/business reasons. In some situations, that's exactly what it is. I am in favor of Opensource because it allows me to be free and to make money, but if Opensource prohibited me from making money, I'd be against it. If you can only make money when you aren't required to make any changes to the source available, how can you claim to be participating in Opensource? By itself, that isn't participating in Opensource, but companies who have proprietary interests in OSS invariably do much more than that. While the most profitable improvements in the software will be kept private, the companies will provide security and many less-profitable patches for free. They also very often provide technical support and bandwidth. The whole goal of the GPL was to prevent companies from taking other people's code, enhancing it, then profiting without sharing those enhancements. The loop hole There is no loophole; it's called vendor SaaS freedom. in that are things like web services where the binary isn't actually distributed. The AGPL closes that loop hole by requiring that source code changes be made available to users of such services. - Chris That was not the goal of the GPL, or the FSF would have removed vendor SaaS freedom from GPLv3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?
On 09/03/2008 08:42 PM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Your idea of user is strange to me. Why? They're the ones using the software to provide the service. The person is using the service not the software. If they were using the software they would be running it on their hardware. It is not that hard of a distinction to make. Your definition of user seemed backwards to me, because you use the word to describe the service providers rather than the users of the service. But after reading your email, I understand the distinctions you make between the user of the actual software (the service provider) and the user of the remote service. You seem to have a three-entity model of the situation (1) the upstream developer of the software who licenses it to the (2) service provider (who you call the user of the software), who allows access to the program remotely to (3) the service users. You are in favor of the upstream developer licensing the software to the service provider by the terms of the GPL, so that the service provider can make improvements to the code, and if they decide to re-destribute that code to another service provider they will include their modifications per the terms of the GPL. But you don't think the service provider should be required to make those changes available to the users of the service. Is that correct? Steve will answer for himself as he always does excellently, but that's what I think. I can understand that. But I would argue that using (interacting with) such a service causes a binary to execute on the remote server, very much like invoking a local binary. The AGPL ensures that modifications to such binaries are contributed back to the community anyway. If I were going to code something like an on-line spreadsheet program, and I don't want a company like Google taking it as a base for their own proprietary program to run their service, Why do you care? then the GPL doesn't help me at all (even though that is the intended goal of the GPL). I need something like the AGPL. Which is why I think the AGPL should be an option and should be considered Free. [...] It's the wrong kind of freedom. It's your freedom to place a constraint on downstream developers that greatly restricts their ability to make money from their enhancements of your software. While I fully agree that you have the right to write software and release it for free and to ensure that the source code be free forever, I don't agree that you can place that kind of constraint on your downstream developers. The AGPL should not be considered free because it attempts to eliminate a very important kind of freedom: vendor SaaS freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?
On 09/02/2008 05:52 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: Sometimes I get the feeling that Debian's users and Debian's developers live in separate worlds. There's currently a long thread in d-legal over the AGPL. One DD has expressed reservations towards the AGPL to the point where she has decided not to package a certain program covered by the AGPL. Good idea. Do Debian's users care about this sort of legal geekery or is everything fine as long as AGPLed programs go into non-free? Curious, - Jordi G. H. I care. The AGPL is dangerous to Opensource. It is too aggressive and too restrictive. As Opensource becomes more dominant, software-as-a-service (SAAS) will become the primary way for people to make money through software. The AGPL threatens to cut off Opensource from its primary means of acquiring income and maintaining relevance. The AGPL might also split the OSS community into opposing camps with results which are likely to be more painful and harmful in the long-term than the Gnome/KDE war. I am in favor of Opensource because it allows me to be free and to make money, but if Opensource prohibited me from making money, I'd be against it. Of course, I am of no importance to you, but consider that Google, IBM, Redhat, Sun, Yahoo, and thousands of other companies are in the same situation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to restrict developers in /var/www/html directory...??
On 09/02/2008 03:18 PM, Michael Habashy wrote: i would like to restrict developer access to the /var/www/html directory. I currently have a number of websites in that directory[] Remove users A, B and C from the www-data group. Make the files world-readable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound volume user specific?
On 08/30/2008 02:25 PM, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: Hi, Is it possible to control sound volume on each user account independently? So when user A logs in and changes the sound volume (with gnome alsa mixer) to max it won't affect user's B settings. It is desktop debian (sid) machine, ALSA, Gnome. Alsactl supports a -f option that will let you say what file you want to store (or retrieve) the volume settings. That file can be in the user's home directory. Read man alsactl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound volume user specific?
On 08/31/2008 01:00 PM, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: [...] Thanks to few other responses I know I can use alsactl; I tried as a mere user (not a root) and it allows me to store / restore the settings; ie /usr/sbin/alsactl -f /home/userA/.alsa-config store /usr/sbin/alsactl -f /home/userA/.alsa-config restore Now, what are the ideal places to put these commands in? So it would store on switch user/logout and restore on login? I'm afraid that if I just modify the gdm configuration files (like gdm.conf) they will be overridden soon with some gdm update (quite possible in sid). On the other hand I'd prefer to get it working globally (not to add a script on each user's account). If you're using IceWm or KDE, you can put the appropriate commands into ~/.icewm/startup or ~/.kde/Autostart/. Gnome has a sessions system that might let you specify a startup script; for scripts that quickly configure something then exit, this is tricky, but you can try going into Settings- Sessions (from memory). The dialog may or may not allow you to add your script to the session. Other options are ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc; however, the commands would then execute at either each login or each new subshell creation event. It's possible to write the code so that the script that sets the volume only executes once per login or session or day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 4.0 Etch apache-perl File does not exist: ... /server-info
On 08/31/2008 05:24 PM, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a Debian 4.0 Etch virtual machine and have installed apache-perl. I would like to be able to obtain server information by browsing to /server-info. [...] My guess is that mod_info.c isn't loaded (or compiled in). 'locate mod_info' returns nothing. http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents makes me wonder if I need to install apache-common? [...] Yes, install apache-common and perform whatever procedure you use to enable Apache 1.3 modules. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console font corruption after exiting xorg
On 08/28/2008 11:35 AM, Scott Edwards wrote: I'm having similar problems on two different machines. For now I'll focus on the laptop running stable on a g4 ppc CPU. After I switch to a console screen, or exit from xorg, the console font is corrupted. I can see what I type, but you cannot make out what the characters are on the screen. Does anyone have suggestions on how troubleshoot this? I didn't find any related bugs on bts. Thanks I've had this problem when experimenting with VESA console modes and exotic console fonts. You might be able to fix the corruption by using consolechars, e.g. consolechars -f lat1-10 The fonts are probably located in /usr/share/consolefonts/ . Be prepared to experiment to find the correct font. You can save the current console font to a file using the -F option. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iceweasel Suddenly Killed
On 08/29/2008 01:42 AM, Zaki Akhmad wrote: Hello I am using Iceweasel as my web browser. The problem starts as I installed mozilla-noscript add on.Previously I have twitterfox and downthemall addon and they work fine. But now, iceweasel suddenly stop, dissapear. What's wrong? Where's the log where I can see? Oh ya, one more thing I am trying to install flash player on my Iceweasel. Thanks! When does Iceweasel stop and disappear? If it disappeared when you installed mozilla-noscript, that should be expected. Restart iceweasel. If iceweasel won't start after the installation of mozilla-noscript, we might need to see the output from iceweasel when it fails; launch it from a terminal and show us the output. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iceweasel Suddenly Killed
On 08/29/2008 03:22 AM, Zaki Akhmad wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When does Iceweasel stop and disappear? If it disappeared when you installed mozilla-noscript, that should be expected. Restart iceweasel. If iceweasel won't start after the installation of mozilla-noscript, we might need to see the output from iceweasel when it fails; launch it from a terminal and show us the output. The second condition. I have restart my Iceweasel after I installed mozilla-noscript. Thank for the hint, here's the result after I run Iceweasel from terminal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadImplementation (server does not implement operation)'. (Details: serial 30 error_code 17 request_code 145 minor_code 5) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function -- Zaki Akhmad Purge and install mozilla-noscript again. If that doesn't fix it, try a different window manager (e.g. blackbox) for testing. I don't have Lenny, so any advice I could give you would be very general. However, I think it's just a failed installation of mozilla-noscript. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cron Not Working On Etch
On 08/29/2008 11:29 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote: I recently had a system drive crash on a Sarge system, so when I put in a new drive, I installed Etch (also figuring that will make upgrading to Lenny easier). Everything seems to have gone well, except for one point: Cron is not behaving well. [...] See if the permissions are correct in /var/spool/cron/crontabs . The directory should have the permissions drwx-wx--T (root:crontab), and the files within should be readable and writable only to the user. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lilo Can't Boot vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-amd64
On 08/29/2008 02:03 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: dist-upgrade installed vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-amd64, ran mkinitrd and lilo which reported two warnings (mbr on different harddrive, assuming LBA32 addressing) but no fatal problems. Attempted boot to new kernel ended in kernel panic. I confess the same was true of vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-amd64 so I saveed vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-amd64 which lilo can boot with no problems. I had hoped the problem would go away with the next kernel image upgrade but it hasn't. Perhaps switching to grub would resolve this problem? If need be I will try to switch but as I have been happy with lilo until now it would be nice to be sure this will resolve the problem. Tom Make sure you've specified the initrd correctly. I never gotten an initrd (initial root disk) to work with LILO; however, you may succeed since LILO claims to support this. Perhaps you need to post your lilo.conf so others can help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing icon theme crashes Nautilus
On 08/27/2008 06:30 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: I'm not exactly sure how it happened, but now whenever I attempt to change the icon theme from the standard Gnome set, Nautilus locks up. [...] Please see this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/08/msg02046.html Isn't this list good? :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome hosed--theme crashing!
On 08/25/2008 09:12 PM, ZephyrQ wrote: PauL Lane wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:38:00PM -0500, PauL Lane wrote: Hello, have you recently upgraded libxml2? I had the same problem. Try; $ dpkg -l libxml2 If it comes back; ii libxml22.6.27.dfsg-3 GNOME XML library Try downgrading to 2.6.27.dfsg-3. Also have a look at; http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=496125 My bad, should be downgrade to 2.6.27.dfsg-2. I downgraded, but I'm still having the same problem with the themes app in gnome (I can't change theme). I checked out the bug report, but the fix requires me to start using unstable, and I'm not comfortable enough (and don't have the time in the short term to research) with pinning to try and 'mix' my etch sources. Anything I missed? Perhaps this is the problem: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.debian/browse_thread/thread/331c0b7d119affec# -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian sound and audio drivers. - explained - please ???
On 08/21/2008 08:25 PM, Michael Habashy wrote: Can anyone direct me to a FAQ about Debian Audio and Sound drivers?? [...] Although these documents are ancient, they may provide some useful information. Install the doc-linux-text package and read these: /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Alsa-sound.gz /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Sound-HOWTO.gz /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Sound-Playing-HOWTO.gz The Linux kernel documentation also has some files that describe the sound system; I hope they are not too obtuse for you; they are for me :-\ If you install the kernel documentation, you'll find the sound files for ALSA in ./Documentation/sound/alsa. Don't bother with ./Documentation/sound/oss unless someone tells you to look in there. OSS is a very ancient Linux sound system that ALSA has largely replaced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev and kernel (testing)
On 08/21/2008 06:44 PM, Glenn Becker wrote: Hello all - I am running a testing box. Recently (end of last week, maybe?) I did an update, one of the packages that -wanted- to update was udev; however, later in the installation process I was dumped to a debconf screen that indicated the new udev would be incompatible with the kernel I was running, that I needed to upgrade the kernel (to 2.6.18 or newer) first or risk rendering the system unusable. =-O I left the answer to the upgrade anyway? question on that screen at no, and the update pretty much bailed at that point. Good idea. So for a few days now I have put a hold on udev via aptitude, Another smart move. since I don't see a newer kernel available ... I guess I'm wondering whether I would be wise to try rolling my own. I did it once, but it was a long time ago. Mainly I'm curious why a newer one hasn't shown up (perhaps it's me doing something stupid - I'm always open to that option!). Maybe on the other hand I should just leave the hold on udev? [...] I'm very confused. Can you post your sources.list? I'm most sure that, if you run Debian testing (Lenny), you have access to 2.6.24 (and possibly later kernels). Anyway, Etch, which is older than Lenny, has 2.6.18, so you can't be running a recently updated ( 1yr.) testing distribution without having at least 2.6.18. Also, please post the exact output of your package manager when you attempt to upgrade. Use the --simulate option to do this safely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pendrive not mounted when another usb device is plugged in
On 08/17/2008 07:34 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: For some reason, although the umts device is mapped to /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/sda comes to be `busy'. So, if I add in fstab another line: /dev/sdb/mnt/sdbvfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 , I can mount the pendrive on /mnt/sdb. It remains to understand: 1) whay is /dev/sda like `busy' although the modem is mapped to /dev/ttyUSB0? 2) how can I mount it and look inside it? Bye Rodolfo Perhaps your modem has some sort of disk-like interface that is inactive or inaccessible by default. Look at the manual for the device. To get around this problem, you might arrange for the modem driver to load after the disk drivers have loaded. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Misbehaving Miro
On 08/15/2008 05:31 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's autostart? System-Preferences-Sessions Well, although NOT currently running, miro was listed as 'currently running' in the Current Session tab. I removed it, and will hope that on next login it doesn't start up again! Thanks for the pointer. Patrick I too think it's the session; however, you might have to save the session with Miro not running, or the Miro might come back with the next Gnome login. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: weird find error on fresh etch system
On 08/13/2008 12:16 AM, Zach Uram wrote: I just installed Debian 4.0 and whenever I use find on / I see: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for ./proc/sys/net: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earli er results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched . What is going on and how can I fix this? Zach Never use the find command to search /proc; that is a special virtual filesystem used to configure your system. If programs touch the wrong things in /proc, it could create serious problems for your computer. The best way to use find is to create a database of all files on your system, and updatedb does that. The wisely-written script in /etc/cron.daily/find gets settings from /etc/updatedb.conf, and those settings disable looking into proc filesystems. If you must use find directly, be sure to exclude /proc and /sys. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 Server on an 64 bit Alpha Processor such as a 4000 Series Dec/Compaq/HP Server
On 08/13/2008 09:10 PM, Robert Garron wrote: It has been written that if I cannot locate a specific package to report a bug that I should write this mail list for advice So the issue is, I have a number of Alpha Servers (4000/4100 Class) which I have loaded with different Video Cards (all recommended by Xorg and other X11 advocates ) which all worked under FreeX11 (if I have the name correct? or FreeBSDX11??) -- anyway, my research has found that in the FreeX11 package the video system in an Alpha used double buffering or complete video cache replacement and this code was removed by Xorg in the Xserver released for Debian... making native graphics support on an Alpha impossible because one cannot start a X11 Server process. I am hoping and requesting helpp to: a) obtain some advice as to the exact package name I should be looking at which contains the Xserver, i.e from Xorg, as Xorg seems to be supplying all the Xservers, X11, Xlib, Xtk for Debian these days... and b) Who can I talk with who is the maintainer of the Xserver code that allows all of the very cool window managers and really everything to work in a windows environment on Debian, i.e. GNome, KDE, etc. as I would like to have a native X11 server operate correctly on one of the many Alpha Servers we have at my company... I hope to convert all of the Alpha servers to Debian Linux with an X11 base with KDE running. It is curious that I can start a remote X11/KDE or X11/GNome session when the Xserver is running on any intel based system with any video card with commands such as: Telnet (name of AlphaServer) ... or # or ssh -Y -l username name-of-AlphaServer login... # or startkde and the entire KDE or Gnome environment comes up and works Fantasticly (my new word...!!!), with some alignment errors, but does not crash... But when I attach a mouse, keyboard, video monitor to any of the older recommended video cards that are supported, the X11 server from Xorg fails with ... (EE) s3(0): No V_BIOS found (II) unmapVidMemSparse: unmapping Base 0x2ff000a Size 0x2 (==) s3(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) s3(0): Chipset: Trio32/64 (--) s3(0): Framebuffer @ 0x400 (--) s3(0): videoRam = 1024 Kb (II) Loading sub module ramdac (II) LoadModule: ramdac (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libramdac.so (II) Module ramdac: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 Fatal server error: mapVidMemSparse: Could not (sparse) mmap fb (No such file or directory) and after talking with a few ex Alpha Engineers -- they informed me that the double buffering code was removed by Xorg after taking over the X11 component from FreeBSD X11 group. My goal is to take the old FreeBSD code that worked and to integrate it back into the Xserver code which I am trying to find in some debian supported package... (and unfortunately this would be a custom fix unless I can convince the best Linux developers, i.e. obtain Debian's help in having Xorg replace the code to work on Alpha Servers for general use and release... I am at odds that the best coders, unix coders, even took the code out in the first place, instead of using some type of switch or if or variable or symbol statement to simply remove the code on systems that do not need it during the compile/build process... Anyway, can anyone supply me with: 1) the package that I need to access to access the Xserver code 2) the maintainer of said package with contact info so I can try to convince the maintainer to add Alpha Server support or so I can add Alpha Server support and give back my work to the any other Alpha Server Debian based users... Thank you all in advance -- Debian is truly a fantastic Linux environment... Robert Garron Access3000, Inc. My knowledge of the Alpha platform is almost non-existent, but I think you'll need to use the framebuffer driver. The kernel framebuffer driver will make the graphics modes available to Xorg. If you have either the Linux kernel source or documentation installed, read ./Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt. Xorg will probably need the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev driver installed. Don't be surprised if you have to play around with the initrd to ensure that the correct kernel framebuffer driver is installed early at boot time. Good luck. PS. As far as programming the driver is concerned, I would suspect that the future of Xorg under Alpha will be tied to the Linux kernel framebuffer modules and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev, but note: I'm operating way outside my knowledge domain here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best way to manage 3rd party debs?
On 08/12/2008 03:42 PM, Aniruddha wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 22:49 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: If 3rd party deb doesn't contain 'Replaces' field, dpkg will refuse any try to break any file owned by existing packages. That sounds good, but what about a deb created by checkinstall? According to Martin Krafft this can still seriously wreck your system?! You can extract the .deb in a testding folder and examine its contents. Use dpkg -x for this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen
On 08/08/2008 09:57 PM, Taahir wrote: I am a fairly new linux user, and have recently installed Debian on its own hard disk in what will eventually become a dual-boot system. The Windows drive is currently not connected, so that isn't a factor. My graphics card is an nvidia 8800 gts. My problem is that when I start up Debian, I get the initialization screen, which runs fully, and disappears just after GNOME starts up. I then get what I think is a password-prompt beep from the motherboard, but the monitor remains off, which is how it normally handles being given an incorrect resolution. I can, however, successfully log into the single-user root option that grub gives me, and get a fully functioning terminal. My question is how to go about setting GNOME into VGA (or some low resolution) through the terminal. Thanks in advance, Go into a virtual console by doing Control-Alt-F2 on the keyboard. You should get a text mode screen that will allow you to log in. After you've logged in, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use another driver, e.g. vesa. First copy xorg.conf to a backup file: cd /etc/X11 cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak You didn't say what distribution of Debian you're using, but what you do to xorg.conf differs with the distribution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] change middle mouse button to side button
On 08/07/2008 08:03 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, In IW keeping the middlemousebutton pressed centers the scroll position on the location of the middle click. Fine. But my mouse uses a press of the second wheel as middlemouse button. That is complicated and I want to use instead the side button. How do I do that? [...] Use gpm; it can remap the mouse buttons; this is from man gpm -B sequence Set the button sequence. ‘123’ is the normal sequence, ‘321’ can be used by left-handed people, and ‘132’ can be useful with two- button mice (especially within Emacs). All the button permuta‐ tions are allowable. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading necessary, but maybe not
On 08/07/2008 07:27 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: ... so having a Debian Etch with a 2.6.25 kernel? Doesn't it sound strange? Thanks Rodolfo No, it's not at all strange. I'm running Etch with 2.6.26. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On 08/07/2008 04:55 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: And I think Aptitude works very well and couldn't wait to ditch dselect for it. Different strokes and all that. I've had the displeasure of being dumped into Synaptic on Ubuntu and friends. I'll take Aptitude every time, thank you very much. - Nate Synaptic on Ubuntu is nice, but aptitude is more powerful. (Thanks Daniel :-) ). Also, it's much easier to record installation and dpkg-configure messages with aptitude; although I have Ubuntu installed on an extra partition, and despite the cuteness of Synaptic, all my installations and upgrades are done with aptitude. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: when debian run out of memory
On 08/07/2008 10:18 PM, hhding.gnu wrote: Hi list, When debian run out of memory, I can only ping the host and can't ssh to the host. It seems oom-killer is running but memory is still exhaust. What should I do then? Only reboot can solve the problem? Can I protect oom-killer from kill the sshd then I can ssh to the box to kill the process? Ding Honghui If you have either the Linux source¹ or the Linux documents² installed, please read ./Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting to find out how to configure the overcommit feature of Linux. AFAIK, when the oom-killer is invoked, almost any process can end up being the victim, and the system can rapidly reach a state of uselessness. -- ¹ Package linux-source-2.6 ² Package linux-doc-2.6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Re:how to make a boot disk and ...
On 08/06/2008 02:46 AM, darren naidoo wrote: Date: Mon Aug 04 03:30:19 PDT 2008 From: darren naidoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re:how to make a boot disk and ... --- ...Which important directories to tar/gzip. Want to make a custom system image on dvd for me. Thanks /home /etc (don't restore all parts) If you use aptitude, you might want to save a list of packages that you've installed that weren't automatically installed: aptitude search '~i!~M' -F '%p' | tee installed.list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing hda - Easiest Way?
On 08/04/2008 05:52 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I know nothing about what's on the MaxBlast CD, but I'm betting it's Windows-only. Stick with rsync is my advice. Rick I'm genuinely curious. Why is rsync better than cp -a? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing hda - Easiest Way?
On 08/05/2008 11:13 AM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-08-05 02:55, Mumia W.. wrote: I'm genuinely curious. Why is rsync better than cp -a? [...] For a one-time copy only, cp and rsync should take about the same amount of time. rsync is more advanced for synchronizing directories (and keeping them synchronized). [...] Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing hda - Easiest Way?
On 08/05/2008 11:41 AM, Shachar Or wrote: On Tuesday 05 August 2008 03:55, Mumia W.. wrote: I'm genuinely curious. Why is rsync better than cp -a? 1. the -x option. 2. the ability to stop the transfer and resume. 3. the -P option. 4. the verbosity. 5. while using rsync, you are learning a valuable tool. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wiki
On 08/02/2008 11:34 PM, sadeq zabihi wrote: Hello Dear I am tring to install a wiki software on Debian (server) on my network. But I dont know which wiki software is better for my project (it is not a big project) and how i can install it on debian server. It it is possible for you please help me about both (wiki software and Debian) best Regards. Sadeq Zabihi Herat - Afghanistan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com There are many wiki packages for Debian. Run this command: aptitude search wiki I recommend mediawiki since it's the most popular. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing a package from lenny on an etch machine...
On 08/01/2008 12:17 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: [...] As you can see, the doc package installed OK, but the server package needs a later version of some basic C libraries. I'd rather not upgrade the Etch machine to Lenny right now. And I really don't want to get into running an Etch Machine with Lenny libraries. So I suspect that what I really need to do is download the dibbler source package and recompile it on Etch. Can anybody tell me how to do that? RTFM is easy if you know what parts to read, so if you can point me to the right parts of the FM, that will be great! If you already have the appropriate deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can do this: mkdir ~/dibbler cd ~/dibbler apt-get install build-essential apt-get source dibbler fakeroot ./dibbler-*/debian/rules binary That should create a dibbler binary in your home directory. If you need to place the deb-src lines in sources.list first, read man sources.list and man apt-get Note, I have no experience with dibber; these are more or less generic instructions for compiling with Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-sourcepkgs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE
On 07/30/2008 05:35 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote: Anton Liaukevich wrote: Sorry. I'm novice at Linux. Please, explain how to use ulimit correctly and what is corefiles. I have run killall kwin command in konsole x-terminal but: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ killall kwin kwin: no process killed Then I haven't seen any message from kwin on my terminal (after running kwin command). Now I have seen strange message in konsole: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kwin: X_SetInputFocus(0x1e0057c): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) No biggie--I get that all the time. Read help ulimit and man core -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE
On 07/29/2008 05:41 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote: Thank you. Actually problem is in kwin. When KDE works good pgrep kwin outputs process IDs of loaded kwins, otherwise 'pgrep kwin' outputs nothing. After I run kwin command KDE begins to work good (4 destops and border of the windows appears). Nevertheless, I want to correct this bug on my machine so that kwin never dye. Prompt me, please, how to do this. Must I report this bug? Where? Enable corefiles by setting the appropriate ulimit before entering KDE; read man ulimit; when you enter KDE, perform a killall kwin and then do kwin from within an X-terminal. That should allow messages from kwin to be displayed on the terminal. When kwin crashes, it might display a stacktrace on the terminal, and you can mail both the stacktrace and corefile to the maintainers. The authors and maintainers for kwin can be found from apt-get show kwin and the file /usr/share/doc/kwin/copyright. Good luck. PS. It would be better to post the corefile on your web-site and e-mail a link to it to the maintainers/developers since corefiles can be big. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT perhaps] Any way to restore Iceweasel 2 behavior in the Navigation bar?
On 07/26/2008 09:55 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hello: Hello. I mostly like Firefox/Iceweasel 3 but I hate what they've done to the navigation bar. [...] [Bug 424557] Allow AwesomeBar to default search only urls (or history/titles/bookmarks/tags): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424557 Some of the comments should help. Also look here: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-UScomments_parentId=44238forumId=1 http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/How+to+disable+the+Smart+Location+Bar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE
On 07/27/2008 10:33 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote: I have been using Lenny for several weeks yet (with KDE 3.5). For first two week all was Ok but then such a bug appeared: 1) In the KDE panel only one desktop available (but I have 4 desktops). 2) All windows I open have no border! [...] It sounds like your window manager, kwin, is dying spontaneously. Keep a terminal window open at all times, and when the bug occurs, type pgrep kwin; if nothing is listed, kwin has gone. However, you can start it up again from the terminal by typing kwin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.26 Kernel
On 07/26/2008 11:48 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: Does anyone know if UDF 2.50 will be supported by .26? I've read that it is, but http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_26 doesn't seem to have anything about it. It would seem so. I have 2.6.26 installed, and this is at the top of ./linux-2.6.26/fs/udf/osta_udf.h: /* * osta_udf.h * * This file is based on OSTA UDF(tm) 2.50 (April 30, 2003) * http://www.osta.org * * Copyright (c) 2001-2004 Ben Fennema [EMAIL PROTECTED] * All rights reserved. * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Greetings and question
On 07/23/2008 06:37 PM, Juan Ignacio wrote: Hi [...] Hi Juan. Why isn't [gtk-qt-engine] in the repositories? I want this package because Firefox looks so awful. [...] Others showed you how to grab gtk-qt-engine from Sid. However, it's much less risky to just install a theme into Firefox. Almost any theme will look better than the default (system theme). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to fix resolv.conf?
On 07/24/2008 01:42 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: [...] . Now, suppose I want the following ppp connection log output: local IP address 151.82.24.152 remote IP address 10.6.6.6 primary DNS address 193.70.152.25 secondary DNS address 193.70.192.25 . In /etc/resolv.conf I suppose I have to put the lines: nameserver 193.70.152.25 nameserver 193.70.192.25 . How do you suggest I should edit /etc/network/interface? Thanks Rodolfo If you use pppd, removing the usepeerdns option from /etc/ppp/options should work; however, on my Etch system, pppd writes its file to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf, and the script /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/userpeerdns merges the data into /etc/resolv.conf, so I would remove execute permissions on /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/usepeerdns. You probably only need to do one of those things--not both. What OS/distribution are you using? P.S. I'm using dialup, and my /etc/resolv.conf is unchanged from when I last set it up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt upgrade sarge - etch udev error can't get past it. Ideas?
On 07/22/2008 04:26 PM, Mitchell Laks wrote: Hi, I am upgrading an old server to etch to be able to use new sata drives. I followed the release notes. You only need a kernel upgrade for that. I first did apt-get upgrade then I did apt-get install initrd-tools then i installed linux-image-2.6.18-686 at this point i got an error from udev. It said that the install of udev failed at the pre install script with error 1. or something like that. I tried apt-get install -f but it did not help. how can i get at the pre install script and see what the error is? I want to avoid just reinstalling etch from scratch if I can. How to go about debugging the error? 1. Make it more verbose Place set -x at the top. and 2. find the script - where is it kept? /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.preinst 3. then edit the preinstall script and fix the problem? also I notice that now the machine will not recognize the ethernet device eth0, which is irritating and probably secondary to the messed up udev. Udev is not absolutely necessary for many systems. When I upgraded to Etch from Sarge, I left udev disabled for several months. The static device nodes work fine under Etch, so I disabled udev by removing execute permissions from udev and udev-mtab in /etc/init.d/ . I'm not a big fan of udev because of the consternation it has caused me and others. I hate to bring up sarge- etch issues as they are old hat as I mostly run sid on my workstations. But this is an old server thanks! Mitchell Sarge was good O/S. If security support had been maintained for Sarge, I'd probably still be using it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system
On 07/22/2008 07:05 PM, Celejar wrote: Hi, Hello Celejar. My xorg.conf files used to have sections such as these: [... sections snipped ...] My current xorg.conf doesn't. I seem to recall reading on this list that current xorg.conf's are simpler, but where did all the configuration options go? Am I supposed to add back the sections that I need manually, in order to set the options that I need? E.g., currently my Synaptics touchpad's scrollbar is inoperable. Yes, you'll need to add those sections back. Your current xorg.conf might actually work. X allows for alternate configuration files under /etc/X11, so your old xorg.conf can be named xorg-old.conf, and you could start it like so: startx -- :1 -config xorg-old.conf If that works, you have a good candidate for the real xorg.conf; if not, you can continue adjusting the file till it does work. Someone was nice enough to post this link for me: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synaptic problem?
On 07/22/2008 01:54 PM, Stackpole, Chris wrote: [..] Anyway, looking at the file menu for synaptic, it has a Add downloaded packages and the hover text says Add packages downloaded with the 'Generate package download script' feature to the system. I have never used this before, so this may be a wild guess, but is it possible that you run the script to wget the packages and then run the Add downloaded packages to install them? [...] Yes, that's how it works. I was able to use this method with synaptic under Ubuntu Hardy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems getting Etch in France
On 07/21/2008 03:17 PM, Nigel Henry wrote: The only place I can find in France that has Etch DVD's available, wants payment via paypal, and Visa. I have neither, only my local banks Carte Bleue. [...] So get a paypal account. Anyway, you only need the first CD-ROM of Debian to install the O/S. Jigdo is the preferred way to do this: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Debian-User] Gtk fonts on non desktop (non gnome) X environment.
On 07/17/2008 10:19 AM, Javier Vasquez wrote: Hi, I use fluxbox, with no desktop (no kde, no gnome no xfce, ...). But I have the problem of not being able to configure the fonts for the gtk guis [...] Try launching the gnome-settings-daemon; it may improve the font size immediately; if not, experiment with the gconf-editor. Is there a configuration file I can create by hand under ~/.some_name which would help me accomplish getting the fonts I'd like to see? Thanks, The gconf-editor changes files under ~/.gconf/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: clean way to package 3rd party software
On 07/17/2008 01:35 AM, Carsten Aulbert wrote: Hi all, Hello Carsten. in our scientific collaboration we are currently using a big pile of software which comes bundled with its own installer (pacman). Since doing a full repackage, of all subcomponents is currently out of the question I would like to package this into a binary only .deb. I somehow succeeded, but would like to receive a hint from experts. I usually use a clean pbuilder/cowbuilder environment to install this huge package under /opt/mypackage. Most of its files are living there so no big problem, albeit one variant adds some changes to /etc. My questions: I'm not familiar with pbuilder/cowbuilder, and I suspect that I'm out of my depth, but I'll try to help anyway. (1) Is there a standard way to detect which files have been added to the system? Right now I'm doing a full find of the whole system before and after and extract the changed files. Many programs support a DESTDIR variable for installation. So you might do something like this: ./configure --prefix=/opt make make install DESTDIR=/tmp/buildir The third command would install all files under /tmp/buildir rather than the normal /opt. The directory structure would be maintained. (2) Right now I then manually move all the changed files into a temporary directory, create a DEBIAN directory along with the necessary files (md5sum, control, ..) and call dpkg -b and go for a coffee. This is the correct way to create a .deb, but by using DESTDIR, you would not have to manually move files. However, especially this second step is rather tedious when it has to be done multiple times. Is there a better way of doing it? I think you're looking for DESTDIR. Thanks for a new insight Cheers Carsten HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto update headers
On 07/16/2008 11:30 AM, Preston Boyington wrote: why is it that after a round of updates via aptitude i have to go in and install things like linux-headers afterwards? how can i tell it to automatically update them along with the kernel? i was under the impression that if i had them installed then aptitude would update them as it does any other package. usually i need this on my laptop. i use module assistant to compile the madwifi and fglrx support. without the headers installing i lose wifi on reboot and have to go through several steps to get it working again (not difficult, just more trouble than i would think it should be). if the headers were automatically installed i could open a terminal, run m-a, and then have my network up in just a minute or so. thanks all, Preston You didn't say what kernel you installed (nor what O/S you're using--I guess not Windows ;-) ). It sounds like you installed a kernel image meta-package such as linux-image-2.6-486. If so, also install the kernel headers meta-package for your kernel, e.g. linux-headers-2.6-486. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing a module parameter to a compiled-in driver
On 07/14/2008 10:18 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: Hi, Hi. http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware%2C_driver_status#NVIDIA I want/need to pass swncq=1 to the sata_nv driver, but it's compiled-in, not a module. How do I do that? The best I've come up with from Google-fu is (from the lilo prompt): linux sata_nv=swncq=1 Am I missing something? I'm looking into this right now, and I don't have a definitive answer for you, but linux sata_nv=swncq,1 and linux sata_nv:swncq=1 are also likely solutions. Install doc-linux-text and read /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/BootPrompt-HOWTO.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing a module parameter to a compiled-in driver
On 07/14/2008 10:18 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: [...] I want/need to pass swncq=1 to the sata_nv driver, but it's compiled-in, not a module. How do I do that? The best I've come up with from Google-fu is (from the lilo prompt): linux sata_nv=swncq=1 Am I missing something? http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt Module parameters for modules that are built into the kernel image are specified on the kernel command line with the module name plus '.' plus parameter name, with '=' and value if appropriate, such as: usbcore.blinkenlights=1 HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...
On 07/15/2008 01:56 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:17:28 -0500 Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mumia, serious Linux O/S meant for serious and knowledgeable people. Here, That precludes me from using it then; I'm neither serious nor knowledgeable. :-) :-) I know you're just jesting, but I want to clarify that Debian creates a better learning environment than Ubuntu, so many of the things that Ubuntu does, wouldn't work so well here. And I don't see Debian in competition with Ubuntu. Or maybe I'll clarify further: Debian isn't in competition against Ubuntu; Debian is in competition /with/ Ubuntu. If Ubuntu wins, Debian wins. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using apt to install only one package
On 07/15/2008 02:55 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: The new Dr. Who is just all *wrong*. How so? If Tom Baker were dead, he'd be spinning in his grave. LOL (Followups should go to debian-curiosa[at]lists.debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...
On 07/14/2008 04:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm not suggesting that they're the same, I'm suggesting that by making backports official it would be self defeating (why not just update stable?) and complicate things for developers (now they have two stable packages to follow). There's a time and a place for backports, but to make it an official part of Debian would be complicated for developers and confusing for users. I agree. The whole Debian system, which I applaud, is already too confusing. However, the flexibility Debian gives us in selecting software packages and repositories allows us to have pretty much whatever distribution we want. And if someone wants to support exotic combinations of packages and features with security support--more power to them, but that should be done outside of the Debian organization. And most definitely, Debian does not need to come out with a new distribution. There are already /way/ too many distributions of Linux, and there are /six/ distributions of Debian in common use: Sid, Lenny, Etch, Sarge, Woody and Potato. Creating new distributions just for marketing purposes is silly. If that works to make Mark Shuttleworth another several million dollars--good for him, but Debian doesn't need to mimic that behavior. Debian is a serious Linux O/S meant for serious and knowledgeable people. Here, we don't need to trick people into buying three installations CD's that are really all the same O/S but with different install defaults. Our users have not been dumbed-down that much, and they should never be. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using apt to install only one package
On 07/14/2008 02:15 PM, andy wrote: Hi I am running Lenny/Testing and with the recent package updates a new set of kernel headers was installed which has completely screwed my nVidia driver settings. I had to reboot into 2-6-24 rather than the 2-6-25 in order to get GDM to work. [...] This may be related to a mistake in the configuring of the 2.6.25 kernel in Lenny. See this: http://groups.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?
On 07/14/2008 06:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: I never see those messages when I update plugins in Iceweasel from my own account. So I think there's an everyone uses Administrator-mode Windows bug somewhere in Seamonkey. The Noscript FAQ discusses this. For Seamonkey, Noscript must be installed globally because Seamonkey is missing the API that makes profile-installation easy. I'm glad you mentioned Seamonkey, because I had forgotten that Iceape is Debian's Seamonkey. H.S., if you do install Noscript into Iceape (as root), please let us know how this affects your upgrades. My guess is that Noscript would have to be reinstalled after every upgrade of Iceape, but I'd like to know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in Etch?
On 07/14/2008 02:03 AM, Jeff Soules wrote: Hi all, Hello. [...] Then I attempted to manually install gtk+2.0 in the latest versions as from [2], which in turn requires a new Glib and a new Pango. [...] Not if you use gtk+2.10. I was able to get gtk+2.10 compiled and installed onto Etch without too many problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i386 or amd64?
On 07/14/2008 02:33 AM, Peet Grobler wrote: I'm not exactly sure why you'd want to run an i386 system on 64-bit architecture. 64-bit is so much faster. Why not make the most of the processor? [...] He has said so many times. He does not want to download a hundred megabytes of packages over dialup. Anyway, 64-bit is so much faster for what--viewing e-mail? Browsing online forums? Not-viewing the screensaver for 20 minutes while you leave the computer to pick up the snail mail? Any modern computer is easily 50 times more powerful that what most of us need. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox not showing in Applications menus
On 07/12/2008 10:40 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Firstly, I have (or, I understood that I have) both Firefox and Iceweasel installed. I wanted to try Firefox (separate to Iceape and Iceweasel), to find whether it had greater stability and security than Iceape and Iceweasel. [...] I recommend removing Iceweasel if possible. You're no doubt confused that invoking 'firefox' brings up another 'iceweasel' window, but that is how Firefox normally works. If Firefox is already running, invoking 'firefox' again contacts the currently running instance and tells it to show another browser window. Since Iceweasel is Firefox, they use the same communication protocol and will communicate with each other readily--even if that's unintended by you. Remove Iceweasel. You don't need to create a menu entry for firefox; instead you can create a shortcut. Both KDE and Gnome allow you to create shortcuts in folders of your choosing. In Gnome I have a ~/Desktop/Shortcuts folder that contains shortcuts to my favorite programs. The same folder works for KDE also. If you wish to keep both Iceweasel and Firefox on your system, create a separate profile[0] for Firefox so that the two programs don't clobber/corrupt your profile data. Although the programs are essentially the same, slight differences in their bugs could lead to profile data loss. Anyway, the crashes and other problems you experienced earlier with Iceweasel may well have been due to a corrupted profile, so starting with a clean profile for Firefox is a good idea. It's also a good idea to back up your profile folder[1] regularly. I use a 'crontab' script to backup mine. Good luck. -- [0] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_manager [1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blurry fonts in printed invoices
On 07/10/2008 10:37 PM, Celejar wrote: [...] http://lizzie.freehostia.com/newegg-pdf.jpg That is a mess. I see the same problem when printing to an actual printer, to a CUPS-PDF virtual printer, and when using IW's native print-to-file functionality. Is there any other information I can provide? Let's hope the PDFfonts avenue helps. It seems that some bad font calculations occurred, and it may be due to bad font substitutions. Install the fonts required by the application that produces the invoice. If that's not possible, get very close substitutions. Also try inkscape 0.46, which can read, convert and fix some kinds of PDF files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt upgrade to testing breaks?
On 07/11/2008 11:26 AM, Peet Grobler wrote: I'd like to upgrade my etch notebook to testing, simply to have newer packages available. This machine is not visible on the internet, and I'm the only user, so security is not such a huge issue. Attempting to do this though - apt says it'll uninstall certain packages (which I use!) That's normal. I'm not sure if I can go ahead and do the dist-upgrade, and just install the packages again after. I don't want to try this and have to re-install the notebook from scratch again (it's quite a hassle getting everything working) Any advice appreciated. sources.list and output from apt-get dist-upgrade: sparky:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list # TENET mirror deb http://debian.mirror.ac.za/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb http://debian.mirror.ac.za/debian/ testing main contrib non-free # Official debian repository deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free # Official security updates deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free Remove any non-Debian repositories from your sources.list; also remove any packages from non-Debian repositories before you upgrade. # WineHQ - Debian etch repository deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt etch main # swiftfox deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian unstable non-free sparky:~# sparky:~# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done [...] It's perfectly normal to have lots of packages removed during a big dist-upgrade, but the non-Debian packages are likely to conflict with the Debian ones in complex ways, so it's safest for them to be removed before the upgrade. If those other software sources have created packages for Lenny, you'll be able to reinstall the removed packages. After you've removed WineHQ and swiftfox from sources.list, do apt-get update. You should then be able to go into aptitude and find the non-Debian packages under Obsolete and locally-generated packages. Remove everything that's there. It should then be safe to upgrade to testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xbindkeys alternative?
On 07/11/2008 12:07 PM, Memnon Anon wrote: Hi I try to get xbindkeys working. Not successfully, as you may guess. It seems to me that xbindkeys always needs a modifer key pressed, i.e. shift, alt, control ... [...] You could try any of these: keylaunch, hotkeys, idesk, or bbkeys. The fluxbox and sawfish window managers also have built-in hotkey support. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get install without starting?
On 07/11/2008 07:26 PM, David Barrett wrote: Is there any way to apt-get install ssh without having it automatically start sshd? Same for lighttpd. Basically, I'm making great progress in my bootable QEMU image script: I don't know of a way, but you can firewall-off the ssh port before you install, and you can configure ssh to not start by running update-rc.d. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian sweetness: safe libimlib2
For the last few days, I've been wanting to install pypanel, but I didn't want to install a vulnerable version of the library onto my Ubuntu Hardy system because of CVE-2008-2426 ¹. This bug has been fixed upstream, but the fix hasn't made it into Hardy yet; however, I booted back into Debian, updated aptitude, and what did I find? I found that this bug has been fixed in the antiquated version of libimlib2 (1.3.0.0debian1-4+etch1) in Etch, so I now have pypanel installed without fear. Ubuntu will evidently have to wait. I just want to say again, you people at Debian are doing a good job. Thanks. ¹ http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-2426 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge, Bind9 (9.2.4-1sarge3) and DNS cache poisoning..
On 07/09/2008 09:52 PM, John Elliot wrote: Hi, We have a couple of Sarge servers running bind9(9.2.4-1sarge3) that appear to be vulnerable to the DNS cache poisoning issue(Looks like port randomization was only introduced in bind9.3?) - As the servers cannot be upgraded at this time to etch, what is the recommended course of action? Backports and upgrade to 9.3? There is a version of bind 9.3.4 for Sarge in backports.org, but they don't publish changelogs, so you'll have to research yourself if this bug has been fixed in their version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing Edgeport USB driver in recent kernels
On 07/09/2008 10:16 PM, Don wrote: [...] kali:/home/don# insmod -v io_edgeport insmod: can't read '-v': No such file or directory kali:/home/don# insmod io_edgeport -v insmod: can't read 'io_edgeport': No such file or directory [...] # cd /lib/modules/2.6.25.4-mine/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ # insmod io_edgeport.ko If you don't want to have to change the current directory, just use modprobe: # cd # modprobe io_edgeport This is my self-compiled kernel. I can't remember why I built a module I'll probably never use, but I have gigabytes of disk space anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to package?
On 07/10/2008 04:19 PM, Jan Brosius wrote: Hi, I have the source of the program maxima. I would like to make a debian package of it. Is there any place where I can find documentation about making debian packages? Thanks for any help Jan Install 'debian-policy' and read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/debain-policy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blurry fonts in printed invoices
On 07/09/2008 07:52 PM, Celejar wrote: Hi, I've recently been having a great deal of trouble getting my browsers to save invoices as PDF's. The fonts for the personalized part of the page are illegibly blurry, [...] I haven't seen that. Could you mock-up some samples for others to test with? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1
On 07/09/2008 01:08 PM, Chris Morley wrote: Hi, this morning i was unable to run apt-get update on any of my etch boxes. I run 'apt-get update' and it throws an error: W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) [EMAIL PROTECTED]W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [...] It works for me. Maybe it was a temporary network problem. Try again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
