Re: Debian on floppy

2002-05-23 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Wyandt, Marlena wrote:

 I'm looking to get Debian/Linux potato on floppy. Any idea where I can
 find that?

The website.

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Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])

2002-05-23 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Craig Dickson wrote:

 Meanwhile, most Canadian beer is nearly as bad as American
 macro-breweries; the only really good Canadian brewery I know of is
 Unibroue, which is in Quebec and therefore only nominally Canadian.

Have you had Moosehead?

 are generally not at all well-known. In that category, I would like to
 mention Stone Brewing (makers of Arrogant Bastard Ale) and Rogue Ales,
 both of which are consistently superb.

I recommend Widmer Brothers myself.  I used to be a major Henry
Weinhard's partisan until Miller bought them out, changed the formula to
have what tastes like three times the water (an insult the local papers
reported the Weinhard family took personally), and closed the Weinhard
Brewery in downtown Portland (between them, and all the brewpubs, all of
downtown used to reek of warm beer on hot days when the wind blew the
brewery exhaust south deeper into downtown, instead of it's usual
northwest into the industrial district; oddly it doesn't feel like I'm
in Portland when it's hot out and it doesn't reek of beer now) and about
half the hops fields north of Salem.

On an aside about Miller making things suck, I was also quite fond of
Weinhard's root beer, which I'd pick up at school.  How Miller could
fsck this up is beyond comprehension (though it's still better than most
root beers out there, with the exception of maybe Souix City;  Henry's
is still the only one you can knock back a case of without burning your
mouth on phosphorus.

 In case anyone is curious, my reviews of beers are available at my web
 site, http://crdic.ath.cx . They are also posted (along with those of

That's a pretty good site.  I like that a bit more than ratebeer.  My
guess is an OK beer starts around 50 and a good beer starts around 70 on
your site, if not just a a wee bit slanted towards the darks?

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nntpcache

2002-05-22 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Anybody know where I can get a deb for the current version of nntpcache?
The one Debian is apting out is *ancient*

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Re: Can not boot to Linux

2002-05-22 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Willy S wrote:

 HDA : IRQ timeout : Status=0xD0 {Busy}
 IDE0 : Reset : Success
 [The sound still there]

This is your hard drive having a death knell.  Probably a good idea to
back up user data and get a new drive now.  Power down until you can
either back up or replace the drive.

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Comparing squid cache versus nothing

2002-05-22 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Is there a good way to benchmark performance on web surfing with squid
doing caching and without on a small household network?

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Re: Verify bounce-debian-user-digest=steidler=mchsi.com@lists.debian.org for tony@lockergnome.com

2002-05-22 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Tony Steidler-Dennison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the note,

 Your email has been received, though it hasn't yet been delivered. In
 order for your email to be delivered, you'll need to reply to this
 message.

Wow, I'm not sure which is more broken:  The mailserver or the incorrect
FQDN.  Someone unsubscribe this low grade moron.

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Re: Uninstalling programs

2002-05-22 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, curtis wrote:

 I'm sorry for this stupid question, but how do you unmake or uninstall a
 program that wasn't install through apt-get or dselect?

If your lucky, it'll have come with a script.  If you're not lucky, get
ready to have fun with rm, some patience and time.

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Debconf problems

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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I gotta wonder what happened to being able to choose the priority and
display type for debconf in sid...I have a feeling I have the priority
cranked too high, but if I reinstall debconf, I don't get a menu asking
me what I want debconf to do...

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Re: Debconf problems

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On 21 May 2002, Robin Putters wrote:

 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' doesn't help either?

Oh hey, that worked.  I didn't know about dpkg-reconfigure before.
That's handy.

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Re: versions

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Sun, 19 May 2002, Jisv wrote:

 This seems like a stupid question, but if I download the current stable
 version - potato?, does that use the 2.4.18 kernel and xf86 4.xx?

No.  Woody I *think* does, and it'll be the stable tree RSN.  sid I know
does for sure, though I'm not sure that 2.4 is the default in any of
them (I run sid and haven't used a Debian kernel in years).

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Re: att and cable modem

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Sat, 18 May 2002, Deva Seetharam wrote:

 when i do a ifup eth1 or pump -i eth1, i get the message operation
 failed. (btw, i did register the mac address with att.)

Sounds like your iptables rules are blocking dhcp.  I'm also not too
familiar with pump's funkitude, so there's an outside chance it could be
that, too.  Check your iptables, though.  If you have the ipmasq package
installed, stop ipmasq and hit it again.

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Re: Fetchmail

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Turn on your line wraps to 72 columns, please.

On Sun, 19 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:

 I am newish and have just installed Woody onto two machines at home
 and I am having a few mail hic-cups. I noticed that there was a global
 fetchmail facility which I read up on and duly got working. I used to
 use fetchmail as a user and set a cron job to down load the mail every
 10 min, but the global fetchmail options takes care of its own
 scheduling. What I want to know is, how often does it download mail,
 and how can I change this time gap? I don't desperately want to change
 it as it is working fine, I just want to know how it works.

There should be a line in /etc/fetchmailrc that says something like
set daemon 600
This tells it to go daemon and poll every 600 seconds.  This is arguably
more sane than using cron, depending on what camp you're in.

 Secondly I use one of two machines at any one time and they are setup
 is the same. I have found that exporting /var/mail from the machine
 that runs fetchmail enables me to have my mail from which ever machine
 I book on to. What I want to know is, is this the right way to do it?
 What is considered the correct/safest/best way to share mail for
 users across a number of machines?

imap.

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Re: Where's the POP3 package?

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Sun, 19 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

 I need to install a POP3 server.  What package is it in?

ipopd is what I have installed for the job.  There's also ipopd-ssl,
same package, new secure attitude.  cyrus-pop3d and cyrus21-pop3d look
promising, however whether or not they also includes imap support or
whether they'll work out of the box is questionable looking at the
description.  popa3d will run from inetd if you prefer.  I've heard a
lot of people say good things about qpopper in the past.  There's many
others, but use dselect yourself and search for pop3.

 Is there a way that I can search packages for a file using apt and a regexp?

dselect has a search feature.  dselect is easier to use than it looks.

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Re: OT: regexp spam filter

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Mon, 20 May 2002, Gary Turner wrote:

 I am not practiced in the use of regexp's, and need some help.  I want
 to block a Nigerian domain (I wonder why?) whose IP block is 217.78.64.0
 - 217.78.79.255.  For unknown reasons (ignorance?), my various
 incantations and curses have failed the test.

1) apt-get install spamassassin procmail
2) add this to ~/.procmailrc

:0fw
| spamassassin -P

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
caughtspam


Your spam, Nigerian scam among others, will now be tagged and moved to
caughtspam, make sure the caughtspam directory or mbox exists
beforehand.  *REPORT YOUR SPAM*.  http://spamcop.net/ can help with
this, you should also forward with headers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you're in
the US at the very least, there's also a few other government email
addresses for reporting specific kinds of spam, like financial scams
such as the ones you speak of.

Good luck in fighting spam, it's a worthwhile cause, don't lose hope.

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Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Mon, 20 May 2002, Petro wrote:

 Now that you've probably gotten all huffy, no, I don't mean you
 specifically, I mean you in the Outlook using, javascript-RTF
 enhanced non-RFC compliant email sending twits out there. If you
 fall in to that category, then...

Whoa!  You must have to deal with superlusers more often than I do.[1]

 Funny, my Mobile Phone came with Eudora installed on it. I'm waiting
 for the USB sync cable so's I can try it out.

Curious how large that phone is...to have a usable screen on it,
especially for a nearly real email client, it would need some serious
screen real estate.

 He's a nice guy. I'd have urinated in them. Though with beer it'd be
 hard to tell the difference.

Try something other than American beer sometime (again, Oregonian
microbrews don't qualify as American here).  Speaking of which, it's
time for a Widmer Bros. Hefeweizen.

 Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have bigger
 horses, that's all.

Dude, that's rank.  And until you've tried the non-US beer, don't knock
it.  8:o)




[1] Well, anymore.  Now my boblike behaviour is limited purely to this
list, ever since [EMAIL PROTECTED] went down, I've been in recovery.

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OT: apt-get install non-us/beer

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

 No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and try a
 decent bitter or ale sometime ...

If it's anything like Canadian beer, count me in.

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Re: Serious Bug in most major Linux distros.

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On 21 May 2002, Peter Corlett wrote:

 It seems that the only merit sash has is that it is statically linked. I
 find it to be a horrible shell otherwise, and I'd rather not have that as
 the default root shell on my boxes.

So if you can't use the machine any other way, pass init=/bin/sash (or
whatever it's location is) to the kernel on boot...

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Re: Not able to connect to nvidia.com

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:

 Its funny... I am not able to connect to www.nvidia.com from my linux box. I
 tried several browsers (konqy, netscape, lynx). Everytime i get a serer
 timeout error.
 I have on the same machine win2k installed from where i am prefectly able to
 connect to the site.

I'm able to get to it in mozilla.  Not trying in other browsers.

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Re: dialup server

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, Henning, Brian wrote:

 I am trying to set up a dial up server with mgetty so friends can log in to
 my computer over ppp.

PPP howto covers this.

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Re: ext3

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

 1) How do I change the ext3 file system to ext2 without wiping out the data
 so woody can access the files?

Remount as ext2.  ext3 is backwards compatible.

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Re: apt-get sources

2002-05-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, user list wrote:

 Is the debian ftp site also a round-robin of all the ftp mirrors?

It *should* be, but it's better to use apt-spy to find the fastest for
you.

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nntpcache 3.0.1

2002-05-20 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Anybody create debs for this yet?  nntpcache 2.3.3 is considered
ancient...

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Re: Problems: mutt to Outlook (Express)

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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begin On 16 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:

 The symptoms of the gpg thing are that the Outlook user gets
 the e-mail, but instead of treating it as a signed message, it
 treats it as an empty message with an attachment (or something
 like that).

I think you're getting your bugs mixed up.  The bug you describe is
caused when it recieves a message that starts with begin  and isn't
starting a uuencoded file.  OE users will attest to this as this
particular post will trigger that bug.

 The Usenet group comp.mail.mutt is probably the definitive
 place to ask for help, since I doubt there's anything
 Debian-specific going on.

I've been thinking about moving away from pine in favor of either mutt
or elm.  I use tin, but elm doesn't work *exactly* like I would expect
coming from tin, and mutt is just counterintuitive.  I wish pine would
go free so people actually have an incentive to hack the code a bit and
make it more featureful; my estimation is UWash's semi-braindead license
is what's keeping more people from hacking on it.

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Re: Problems: mutt to Outlook (Express)

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Cam Ellison wrote:

 To the best of my knowledge, they do not.  It is difficult for me to
 actually get into each of the machines in question and play around,
 since they are some distance away (anywhere from 40 km across a large
 body of water to 600 km over the mountains).  The headers do not
 appear in the respective Inbox displays, and I must assume that they
 are either rejected (given a 554 code, perhaps) or sent to /dev/null
 after retrieval.

Back from my tech support days, I vaguely remember an option in OE that
allows OE to silently drop potentially harmful attachments and is on
by default...curious what happens if the recipient shuts this feature
off?  This shouldn't make a difference in the security of the box, as
they're running an up to date virus package (right?).

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Re: jpeg

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Ted wrote:

 Can anyone please help..My son is currently wandering around India and
 he has sent me mail with an attachment kaur_jpeg..This jpeg opens at the
 bottom of the mail showing 4 photos...I want to print one of these but
 have searched the system for kaur* and *jpeg but the file does not show
 up...

Did you save the attachment from email, or are you just viewing the
photo from a program spawned by your MUA?

Without more information, here's the two stabs I'll take...

1) Save the attachment to a file, and go through your normal printing
routine.

2) Display the image like you have, if it's spawning a different
program, and try printing it from that program.

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Re: GUI front-end for writing CD audio to CD-R?

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Mike Frisch wrote:

 Can somebody recommend a decent GUI front-end for writing CD audio to
 CD-R?  Essentially a wrapper for cdrecord and some utility to convert
 MP3 to WAV.  I am looking for something easy to use and reliable.

MP3 to WAV, I use xmms with the disk writer output plugin.  For the
burning process itself, I use cdroast.

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Re: MS Outlook98: wrong place for mails from Debian-User-DE-list

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Fri, 17 May 2002, Walther, Christoph wrote:

 I'm subscribed in debian-user-german@lists.debian.org,
 incoming mails from this list are provided to be received in the folder
 Debian-User-DE Liste in my Outlook post-box.
 Unfortunately, some of this mails will be directlly allocated in the Outlook 
 post-box
 instead in the Debian-User-DE Liste in my Outlook post-box.
 The rule in my rule-assistant seems to be correct:

You might recieve a faster response by posting this problem in one of
the following locations:

de.comm.software.outlook-express
de.comm.office-pakete.ms-office (I can't remember if Outlook is part of
Office)
microsoft.public.de.outlook

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OT: Decent .us registrar?

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Any recomendations for a cheap and fast .us registrar?

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Re: GUI front-end for writing CD audio to CD-R?

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Fri, 17 May 2002, Rick Macdonald wrote:

 (Baloo - I tried to reply to you privately but the mail bounced)

Read the bounce message.  Most likely you got bounced due to an open
relay being involved and there will likely be a URL pointing you
someplace else for details.  Forward the bounce at the appropriate
postmaster.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] will not likely be the address
you're looking for in this case.

 I hope you don't mind this question, but do you know if xmms supports
 marking start/end points and writing out just that section?

Well, not making start and end points, but you can use the slider to
move to where you want to start, hit play, and hit stop when it hits the
point you're looking for.  It's ugly but works.

 I looked but
 couldn't see such a feature, so I starting testing audacity. It does the
 job, but is tedious to find the start/end points (15 minutes of an
 hour-long radio program). I end up using xmms (with it's easy slider
 control) to find the section I want and then extract it with audacity.

You've likely found the best solution to your problem then.

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Re: exim configuration

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Fri, 17 May 2002, Dave Sherohman wrote:

 You'll want to base the server on option 1 (Internet site) or 2
 (Internet site using smarthost), depending on whether you feel a need
 to route all outgoing mail through your ISP's server.  A few sites
 will refuse to accept mail from 'unknown' machines and may assume
 you're a spammer if you don't use your ISP to launder the mail.

Checking against ISP customer IP pools is pretty rare.  My ISP's
mailserver is blocked by three RBLs I check against at last check, I'd
rather not route outbound through servers with known stupid admins.

 Personally, though, I don't use a smarthost as these sites are few
 and far between these days, provided that you have a static IP
 address.

Yup.  Mostly because assuming a particular ISP is a spammer based
entirely on the fact it's on the other side of a dialup, cable modem, or
DSL bridge fromt he rest of the net is draconian and considered stupid
by most admins.

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Re: Problems: mutt to Outlook (Express)

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On 17 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:

 You're describing a different bug in OE.   There are so many
 from which to choose...

And as demonstrated here, they all have similar effects with many
different causes...

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Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Sat, 18 May 2002, Hans Ekbrand wrote:

 Although I actually have a terminal (can't say I use it much though),
 I sometimes wonder if email conventions should be derived from
 limitations of such ancient hardware. In some sense, its a good
 practice to require as little as possible from the clients, but is
 80x25 a limit that anyone is facing anymore?

Yes.  I'm at work right now on a VT100.  People still use old hardware
and will likely still use old hardware for as long as they can be
repaired and pressed into service (read: indefinately, terminals are
pretty damn robust).

 I guess new limits come with pocket computers, mobile telephones, and
 whatever means people read their mail with these days.

Pocket computers gracefully rewrap text (usually) so they're not an
issue (though it would be nice if the email software that comes with it
would respect the 72 column rule even if it doesn't display it).  I
don't see anybody reading on thier telephones.  I mean, yeah, I'm going
to use my 12x4 display to read email because it's the most pleasant and
easy on the eyes interface.

Though one time I got a hold of my roommate's cellphone and subscribed
him to a few high traffic lists on it.  It took him a couple days before
he realised it wasn't going to stop on it's own and he'd have to go for
it himself.  Nice part about those three days is you couldn't lose him,
he was beeping every couple minutes.  (He got me back by pouring out my
Molsons and refilling the bottles with Coors, though everybody in the
house said that was below the belt: You simply don't subject *anyone* to
American beer[1])

 So, a better argument for wrapping lines at 72 chars would perhaps be
 that it make the text easier to read (even if you have real screen
 estate that could handle a lot more).

True.  xterms are by default 80x25.


[1] There's a difference between American beer and Oregonian beer,
though, Widmer Brothers and McMenamins are still good; Henry Weinhards
used to be good until they sold out to Miller, they're brewed out of St.
Louis and the formula changed: it tastes like Miller Lite now.

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RE: make is really slow!

2002-05-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Fri, 17 May 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:

 I mentioned swap because 2.4 uses swap very differently from 2.2.  We know now
 that 2.4 is somehow involved.

Actually, = 2.4.10 swaps very differently than =2.4.9.

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bug and gnupg

2002-05-16 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Is there any good reason why you can't sign submissions to BTS with
gnupg using bug?  Would this be a good feature request?

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Re: word format

2002-05-16 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, csj wrote:

  The solution is to use an Open and Free format such as plain text.

 HTML (and its cousin XML) is also open and free. But most folks in this list
 hate it like hell.

There's also roff and TeX...

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Re: Problems: mutt to Outlook (Express)

2002-05-16 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Turn your line wraps on to 72 columns, please.

On Thu, 16 May 2002, Cam Ellison wrote:

 Is there a setting I am missing, or do I have to strong-arm them all
 to use Eudora (which also works fine)?  Getting them onto Linux is
 another step, but one thing at a time...

This would most likely be an Outlook/OE bug then.  Whip out the strong
arm.

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Re: bug and gnupg

2002-05-16 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, dman wrote:

 Is the reason good or not?  I think you're having trouble because
 you're encoding mechanism puts that
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 header above your message.  As a result the psuedo-headers the BTS
 looks for aren't at the top.

Well, I haven't played around with gnupg enough to change to MIME for it
yet.  And pgp4pine seems to completely miss MIME signed stuff and I
haven't read up enough on how to verify MIME in pine yet.

 I think so.  If we sign everything else, why not sign bug reports?

OK, BTS ticket 147185.

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Re: AGP not available error.

2002-05-15 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 15 May 2002, Steve Juranich wrote:

 (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
 (EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler

 Any ideas out there?

Recompile with AGP enabled, and fix your permissions?

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Re: Stopping spam

2002-05-15 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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On Wed, 15 May 2002, Andy Saxena wrote:

 Just curious, but does anybody have any thoughts on TMDA?

What exactly is TMDA?

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Re: IRC

2002-05-14 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
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Please turn your line wraps on.

On Tue, 14 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:

 I am curious to take a look at IRC, something I have never taken much
 interest in before. As I use exclusively Gnome, I was wondering if
 people could make a suggestion as to their favourite gnome based
 clients, that can be found in woody

Why limit yourself to Gnome when all the good IRC clients will run in an
xterm?  I highly suggest taking a look at ircii and bitchx.

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Re: Stopping spam

2002-05-13 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 12 May 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:

  The last two RBLs in my config don't list anything but every IP
  address assigned to Korea, and the other every IP assigned to China,
  since it doesn't appear any admins in either country have a clue.

 What might these RBLs be?

Gah...I hate repeating myself, especially since the message you replied
to has the answer...

rbl_domains = 
relays.ordb.org:orbs.dorkslayers.com:relays.osirusoft.com:spews.relays.osirusoft.com:postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org:dsn.rfc-ignorant.org:abuse.rfc-ignorant.org:bl.spamcop.net:list.dsbl.org:multihop.dsbl.org:korea.services.net:cn.rbl.cluecentral.net

The last two listed are for Korea and China, respectively.

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Re: home network

2002-05-11 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 11 May 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote:

 and eth1 is 10.x.x.x and the client machine is turned on once every
 couple days for people to access the internet when they want, it is
 also on 10.x.x.x ... now the problem.
 Frequently when the client fires up it is not able to connect to the
 host.

Follow the RFCs and don't use the class A 10.0.0.0/8 stuff unless you
actually are going to be using that many IPs.  Likely your ISP is using
network 10 for thier internal gear.

Try using 192.168.0.0/16 stuff instead.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jim Lynch wrote:

 Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/gimp1.1-nonfree.html

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Modules question

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 8 May 2002, Ron Johnson wrote:

 possible, right?  Create an hourly cron job that does rmmod -a,
 to eliminate any unused modules.

If you do that, do modules get re-inserted as needed?

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Re: Woody: apt mysteriously wants to pull in 100 MB from sid. Why?

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 7 May 2002, Mario Vukelic wrote:

 Also, especially in the release process of woody I find this highly
 inconvenient :) I would sleep better knowing that I track woody, not
 testing, when a new testing can pop up over night, and woody
 suddenly means stable

I think that third, special tree goes away for a few weeks while the
maintainers start actively grinding on unstable again, until someone
decides, Hey, we're ready to move forward again, in which we get a new
fork off of unstable which gets called some name for a while that I
can't remember before renamed to testing, and later, stable.

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Re: under six inches of water -- a debian tale

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 7 May 2002, Ron Johnson wrote:

  Will, that is a wonderful story, but I imagine it says more about Acer
  than about Debian.  :}

 Yeah.  Makes me want to buy an Acer for my boat...

I hear Acer makes great boat anchors.  8:o)

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Re: Increasing font size in mozilla

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Mike Fontenot wrote:

 Has anyone succeeded in getting significantly
 larger font sizes in (potato's) mozilla?

Try going into the font preferences and playing with the DPI settings.
I bet those aren't tuned right.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

 The Debian web site says that Debian will install on 12 Meg RAM.  Is that
 information current?

I haven't seen a reason why it wouldn't be.

 What are the main differences between Debian and Red Hat (I'm assuming there 
 are
 a few current or ex-Red Hat users here)?

Based against Red Hat 5.2, an experiance that scarred me for life and
nearly turned me off to Linux entirely as I was starting out until I
found Debian, so this will be a bit biased and outdated.

- dpkg makes life easier than dealing with RPM.  The dpkg isn't a
complete bitch to deal with like RPM on the command line.  You also have
to make an effort to install two versions of the same package with dpkg,
instead of it being the default behaviour like it is with RPM.

- apt makes life easier than dealing with... oh yeah, Red Hat doesn't
have anything to resolve dependancies and download packages
automatically.  So apt is better than getting cozy with a bash prompt
and rpmfind.net for a few hours.

- Filesystem layout is sane.  No more trying to have to remember how to
translate the layout from what's in the howto to what's on your system,
it'll be closer to, if not the same.

- We're the largest.  Heck, the Apache package used to come with a few
ad banners for Debian which bragged about having nearly 6000 packages as
part of the distro.  Most people will have under a tenth of that
installed, but the point is, you have selection and variety.

- Installer's not as scary (as of Debian hamm, which was the last time I
had to use the installer).  Yeah, it doesn't autodetect beyond what the
kernel can (ie, you don't necissarily have to know module parameters,
but you at least need to know which modules), but it gives you a bit
more control over what packages get installed right off, and it doesn't
try to partition your disk by default into a bizarre layout.

- Upgrading is easy.  I've been using Debian since bo, reinstalled to
get hamm (kinda like the easiest way to upgrade Red Hat), and somewhere
around that time someone pointed out an early apt release to me at a LAN
party.  Every once in a while I go through and clean out the cruft, but
it hasn't had a bad cruft buildup yet.

 Does Debian support the old Sound Blaster Pro CDRoms (sbpcd module)?

Not sure, but if the linux kernel supports it, shouldn't be that big of
a problem.

 How well does FVWM run on Debian systems?  I currently build FVWM rpms for Red
 Hat.

fvwm2 and fvwm95 (the two fvwm flavors I'm familiar with) run great.

 I need to run servers on two 16 Meg RAM boxes - DNS and mail mainly.  X would 
 be
 nice, but I usually use X forwarding on those boxes to another one that can
 handle the load (500 MHZ, 512 Meg RAM).

XF864 is great here, bind9 runs nice, I use it for my local network
myself.  exim runs great, and thank you, dman, for that
spamassassin+exim howto; it's working wonders.  Adding spamassassin and
sending an email reminding users to report spam has worked wonders (as
opposed to just reminding users to report spam).

 distribution that will work as both a server and a desk top environment.  And 
 I
 need one that will remain loyal to its customer base, including those with low
 resource PCs.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

 Linux and low RAM boxes don't get along well.

Not sure what paralell universe that's from.  Linux runs on PDAs, for
chrissake.  8:o)  I ran ursine.dyndns.org on a 386 with 8MB RAM and
111MB of disk space (I was in high school and had to scrape together
scrap hardware to get that far...this was sick.  The onboard controller
was MFM/RLL, I had added an IDE controller, both had drives attached...I
took that box, which hadn't been booted in years, to a LAN party and
scared people with it when I raised the hood (old flip-open AT style
case that had a button on either side to release the case cover, which
flipped open like a car hood except it would go to perpendicular to the
rest of the case)), even installed hamm on it back then.  I've been
keeping the same install on every upgrade, though, just updating
packages and kernels.  Got bored earlier, and found an MP3 with a date
back from 1997 on it.  (mp3blaster is your friend when you want music on
a 386).

 couple of years I ran Linux, I did everything on the console.  My wife
 didn't know Linux had graphics, and referred to Linux as the X-ray
 vision operating system.

I don't get it.

 They recently dumped inet for xinet.  Instead of having one configuration file
 in /etc/inetd.conf, they now have individual files per service in
 /etc/xinetd.d/.  I'm sure that makes sense to somebody, but it makes 
 configuring
 it a real headache.

That just hurts...why would someone implement something in such an
obviously painful manner?

 message ID, are originating from my own box.  I'm guessing that they're either
 sending mail directly from their home system to my Sendmail program, using it 
 as
 the MTA, which they aren't supposed to be able to do (relaying denied is set),
 or they've somehow hacked me and are originating spam mail from my computer.  
 I

IIRC, relaying is either enabled by default or overly-easy to enable in
one of Red Hat's GUI admin tools.  And if they're connecting to you
directly to send thier spam, they're not relaying, they're doing what
any other mail server would be doing.

 need an MTA that gives me more control over the mail in my system, including 
 the
 ability to have copies of all mail that originates in my system sent to me by
 the MTA.

This is best done by hacking procmail into the message path on an
existing MTA, no MTA has this ability out of the box.

You'll probably like Debian's default, exim, which is easy to configure
and doesn't have relaying enabled by default.

 I started with 5.2 also.  Actually I tried Slackware first.  That was a
 nightmare.  How'd I know they'd expect me to keep a copy of my monitor refresh
 rates lying around?

Before I install X on any system, I go to monitorworld.com and look up
the data on the monitor, then use a magic marker to write it on the back
of the monitor if it's not already printed there.  I never could
understand why such a basic spec isn't printed right on the same label
as the make, model and FCC id.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

 I don't have a problem as much with downloading dependencies as I do with
 needing programs that require conflicting libraries.  I'm fortunate in that I
 have an ADSL line that will allow 66+ kB/s downloads, assuming the site I'm
 accessing can handle it.  If the perl dependencies in your example install
 without breaking other dependencies, I'm good to go.

Jeez...I'm so glad I'm back on cable.  66kbps is infuriatingly slow...

 installed.  If you want to install postfix to test it out, apt
 will remove exim, since the exim  postfix packages are both
 members of the same meta-package.  It won't let me manage
 inetd.conf to make sure that 2 different programs are combating
 for the same port.

 Not sure I'm following what you mean.  Are you trying to get inetd to read
 queries to the port, and based on the query determine which program to open?  
 I
 don't think you can do that.  Technically it's possible, but based on Internet

 I may have totally missed what you're trying to say.

I think I did, too.  Especially since I don't think the dependancies
quite pan out the way he said, if I'm understanding him right.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 9 May 2002, Ron wrote:

 I don't remember being able to easily install 2 versions of
 the same package.

Countless times I had installed a newer version of a package only to
discover it managed to slip it in there in some borken manner that left
the old version completely intact *and* installed the new version.
Especially with libraries.

 RH now has Red Carpet, which does something similar to apt-get,
 but I think you must go only to redhat.com.  No choosing the
 fastest mirror.

So even getting with the times they still remain broken...

 Doing a network install (over cable modem) of woody wasn't so
 difficult.

No, it wasn't.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

  have an ADSL line that will allow 66+ kB/s downloads, assuming the site I'm
  accessing can handle it.  If the perl dependencies in your example install
  without breaking other dependencies, I'm good to go.
 
 Jeez...I'm so glad I'm back on cable.  66kbps is infuriatingly slow...

 Actually that's KBytes - or 528 kBits/second.  The line is rated at 640 kb/s
 download, but slightly over 520 is what I usually get.  That allows me to
 download a full cdrom in about 2 1/2 hours.  I just download the 3 CDRom Red 
 Hat
 7.3 distro in less than 8 hours.  Took weeks on my old 14.4 modem.

Erk, I meant 66kBps.  Any time I've pulled less than 130 kBps on cable
I've had all my roommates were awake at the same time and had people
over with thier computers, or the server I was connecting to just didn't
have the bandwidth to send to me that quickly.  My DSL experiance wasn't
good:  Installation took forever.  It crapped out constantly.  Repairs
took forever.  It was bloody expensive compaired to cable (about $5 more
a month than cable based on time, and more than that based on uptime,
and more than that based on bytecount.)

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Stopping spam

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:

 I'll look into it.  I need some way to kill the spam that goes through my
 servers.  Yesterday I received an email from Brazil.  I'm not real sure what 
 it
 said, but it looked official, made several references to spam, and quoted at
 the bottom something that looked like legal text.  I'm assuming that they
 received some spam with a message ID that matched one of my machines.

My setup:

exim from sid, with the hack dman mentioned about a week ago in the
configs to run everything through spamassassin (this causes most of the
spam to be tagged with an extra header to make it bloody easy for users
to procmail filter it, and SPAM added to the beginning of the
subject line for easy visual identification).  Most spam doesn't make it
that far, I have exim configured to use about a dozen RBLs, which takes
out the spam that isn't worth reporting due to ISP inaction on the
issue.  The last two RBLs in my config don't list anything but every IP
address assigned to Korea, and the other every IP assigned to China,
since it doesn't appear any admins in either country have a clue.  This
at least gets it so what does make it through is most likely coming from
an ISP that takes action on such issues.

Report *all* spam, period.  spamcop.net automates this, you will see
dramatic reductions in spam after a few weeks.  Just as a test, we set
up an account on a server with no spam filtering whatsoever and put the
address on some fairly regularly spambot-crawled webboards.  It got up
to recieving 40 spams/day.  We started reporting it.  It dropped to 3
spams a day within two weeks, and that spam would have been blackholed
by the RBLs if it was an address on ursine (most of what was left came
from China, Korea, or Postmaster General, Inc).

 Or why they don't include the sound card specs, etc., with the PC 
 documentation.

Yeah, but at least that's not dangerous if you have to do a little
guesswork.


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Re: Modules question

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Seneca wrote:

 I think it would depend upon the kernel. Early in the kernel config,
 there is a question about autoloading modules when needed. I haven't
 tried kernels without it, but whenever fat support is unloaded, if I use
 my floppy (all my floppies are fat), it's loaded.

Oh, cool.  I'll give it a shot, then.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, dman wrote:

 number is kinda part of the package name.  The package name is as much
 as you specify, rather than having specific delimiters like dpkg.  rpm
 also allows multiple packages with the same name (different version)
 installed, as long as no two files have the same name.  It's a real
 PITA.

Which to this day is still (accurately) speculated as being one of the
reasons why I moved my school to Debian in '97.  *Way* too easy to
completely mismanage a RPM based system simply due to inconsistancies in
package naming, numbering, and it's other counterintuitive perks...

 Someone has even ported apt to rpm.  It has some problems though --
 it's potato's apt (no preferences) and it mmaps the Packages file.  I
 tried using it (within the last few months) on a machine with 96MB
 RAM.  It dies with an out-of-memory error.  Potato's apt on my 8MB
 clunker _works_ even though it gets a sound thrashing in the process.

Good.  New fodder in how Red Hat *can't* use our tools against us.  8:o)

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, dman wrote:

 | That just hurts...why would someone implement something in such an
 | obviously painful manner?

 Have you ever tried to read RH init scripts?  Have you ever tried to
 find an init script?

Yes, I have, which is why I wonder why they made the same fscking
mistake twice.

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Re: Red Hat user shopping around

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, dman wrote:

 debian!  Use exim instead, it's much easier to configure.

I'm going to have to strongly agree with that.  It's mail simplicity and
easier than walking your boss through OE by phone (my current measure
for the most difficult anything should be).

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re: My ultimate linux box

2002-05-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 9 May 2002, Jens Tollofsen wrote:

 Would be cool with water cooling in it. koolance or some other vendor,
 and isolate the box with noisekiller pads. shouldnt sound that much
 then.

I love my Koolance box.  Put it in mode two, leave the window open.
Ursine drowns out the outside world drowns out Ursine.  Easy to fall
asleep to.

 Only bad thing with the koolance box is that its so small. With
 the price that box will have i supose you have won on a lottery or
 something in that way.

Or lose your job and all hope at the same time and make one last toy to
tide you over for a while.  I went 1.1 GHz thanks to that case.

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

2002-05-06 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Grant Edwards wrote:

 In the muc groups' articles, why not set the followup-to:
 header to be the mailing list e-mail address?

Because newsreaders are expecting newsgroups to be listed in the
followup-to, and it wouldn't work?

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Allowing sound only from console

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
2.4.18, devfs, ext3.
How do I get it so only people sitting at the console can use audio?

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Re: OpenOffice question

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Gary Turner wrote:

 apt-get install j2re1.4 openoffice.org
  ^^^ s/b j2re1.3, no?

Yeah.  I typo'ed.  Could you trim your quotes down so it's easier to
read and respond to, please?


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Re: Networking - still could not telnet in

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, shyamk wrote:

 I am actually confused on how to read the situation.

apt-get install telnetd?

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Re: unreadable xterm :)

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, andrej hocevar wrote:

 Can I start xterm in unreadable mode by default or with a certain
 option? I mean unreadable as when chosen with ctrl+right click
 Unreadable.

My guess is it's one of the many things xterm does, but I don't know for
sure.  But it got me interested:  Why is this desirable behaviour?

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devfs joystick question

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
Just what *is* the path to the joystick device in /dev under devfs?  I
do have my modules installed for it and everything, though I compiled
them post-reboot...

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:

 a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
and in linux.debian.user news group?

It varies by propagation path.  Not long.  Try muc.linux.debian(?), as
it's the anointed official mirror group.

 b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup?

Yes.

 c: Can a person write to the mailing list by posting to the newsgroup?

Not directly, you'd still have to mail the list.

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

 It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
 out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
 responsible for the gateway hasn't set it up.

Actually, I believe this is up to the mail admin to check for loops,
simply because without loop checking, I could just subscribe to the
list and set my .forward to the list.  This would wreak hell.

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Re: Allowing sound only from console

2002-05-05 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

 Look for CONSOLE_GROUPS in /etc/pam.d/login.  Add users to the 'audio'
 group is they're logged in on the console.

Could we get an example?

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Re: bounce-debian-user log entry

2002-05-04 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Carlos Sousa wrote:

May  4 14:54:15 snob sm-mta[1790]: g44DsFJX001790:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=8878, class=-30, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=snob [127.0.0.1]

 What does this mean? I've never had trouble with the debian mailing
 lists before. Am I losing mail?

No.  Pay attention to it... it got a message that came from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If it bounces, it goes to that address so the listserv can unsubscribe
bouncing addresses on it's own.

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Re: bounce-debian-user log entry

2002-05-04 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Carlos Sousa wrote:

 But it's nevertheless strange that logcheck decided to flag it as a
 possible security violation. Possibly frightened by the the BAD in the
 msgid string?

Not knowing how logcheck works, my guess is logcheck just didn't know
what it was, I doubt the string BAD had anything to do with it, but I
could be wrong.

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Re: OpenOffice question

2002-05-04 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 4 May 2002, stan wrote:

 I just downloaded the OpenOffice 1.0 installer, and ran it on my woody
 mahcine. I told the installer to put the installation in /opt/OpenOffce.

 I looked through the opt/OpenOffice tree, and I don't see a bin directory.

 What else do I need to do to use this package?

It might be easier for you to add these lines to your
/etc/apt/sources.list:


# OpenOffice
deb http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib
deb-src http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib

# Java
deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/ woody 
non-free

Then do this:

dselect update
apt-get install j2re1.4 openoffice.org

That'll probably be far more painless than the way you're trying to go.

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Re: Gimp and GIF

2002-05-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Daniel D Jones wrote:

 Could someone set me straight on the using Gimp with GIFs under Debian?

Friends don't let friends use GIF.  Use PNG instead.

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Re: OpenOffice.org Woody

2002-05-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Tim Dijkstra wrote:

 Not tried it yet, but I've got another question. Why isn't openoffice
 available via the debian mirrors? Is this because nobody ever bothered
 to package it properly or are there some licence issues?

Please turn your line wraps on to 72 columns, posting without word wrap
on is incredably difficult to read.

Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib
deb-src http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib


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tune2fs question

2002-05-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Mike Dresser wrote:

 WARNING
Never  use  tune2fs  to  change parameters of a read/write
mounted filesystem!  Use this utility at  your  own  risk.
You're modifying a filesystem!

So I was lucky when I did -j to a mounted filesystem?

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Re: Reverse Depends on packages

2002-05-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Mike Fedyk wrote:

 Is there a tool, or series of commands that'll help me find packages that
 are not depended on anymore in the debian packaging system?

deborphan does just this, debfoster is a little more flexible.

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Re: how to configure adsl?

2002-05-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 2 May 2002, andrej hocevar wrote:

 Hello,
 I'm helping a friend configure his first Debian/Linux box. He's got adsl
 access to the internet but I don't really know what it is -- if I'm not
 mistaken, he needs kernel 2.4 with pppoe support and the pppoe programs
 (pppoe, pppoeconf, ...). Is there basically anything else?

Depends on your internet provider.  It's possible to set up with PPPoE,
though I would *strongly* suggest switching to an ISP that doesn't do
this trick.  PPPoE falls well within the realm of things only ISPs that
are oversubscribed and trying to screw you use.  Check the PPPoE Howto.

You should be getting much of the settings you need to get going from
your ISP, the rest is covered in howtos.

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Re: Wal-Mart PCs revisited

2002-05-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

 Um, http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/ should help clear it all up for ya :)

Oh, yeah, I remember him now.  The only other person I've talked to with
a *sane* view about POTS modems.

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Re: Wal-Mart PCs revisited

2002-05-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 1 May 2002, craigw wrote:

  Better still, purchase a better modem at WalMart, put the sound card
  claiming to be a modem in the modem box, and return it saying it was
  defective for a refund.  Break even.
 
 LOL
 I love it! That's a good one.

I used to do that with the Wilsonville Fry's, except it was AGP video
cards for CGA and EGA adapters we had piled up.  I did it three or four
times over the years, my roommates have all done it...you'd think they'd
check the box.  But I guess it's a vicious circle, since often times
those boxen with the exchanged cards are put back on the shelf, so
someone else has to legitimately exchange for the real thing.

 I haven't used a modem in years, and last time I bought a custom box I
 told them to leave the modem out. Hell, I figure ten bucks is ten bucks,
 right, and I'll never use the thing.

I exchanged for a NIC.

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Re: Wal-Mart PCs revisited

2002-05-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 1 May 2002, craigw wrote:

 They always are at Fry's. I wouldn't touch anything there that shows any
 signs of having been opened before. Returned stuff goes straight back
 on the shelf AFAIK, maybe with a little Tape or new shrinkwrap.

If it's been opened before, I open it myself and make damn sure what I
want is really in the box.  But I have to be desperate to take an open
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Re: Windows 98 question.

2002-05-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, infotechsys wrote:

 Hi, I have a friend that has Windows 98 installed on her computer and
 she can't remember her password. Is there anyway that she can get
 around this? I don't know anything about Window. Thanks for your time
 and help. Wayne

Hit escape.

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Re: Wal-Mart PCs revisited

2002-05-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:

 Or, better yet, mail the winmodem back to Wal-Mart, with a thanks
 anyway, bought a Courier v.Everything external on eBay for $20 instead.

Better still, purchase a better modem at WalMart, put the sound card
claiming to be a modem in the modem box, and return it saying it was
defective for a refund.  Break even.

 Or mail it to Rick Moen.  :-)

Who?

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OT: Spamcop

2002-04-29 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
Has anybody other than Julian Haight successfully install spamcop?

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Converting mbox - maildir

2002-04-28 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Vineet Kumar wrote:

 I'd use maildir -- but then again, I always use maildir. =) I think the
 reason you give below is a pretty good one. Any good reason to use mbox?
 Not afaics, unless you're running out of inodes.

So how do you convert?  Exim mta, procmail are in use, as is IMAP and
POP3 service.  What are the things to look out for?

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Re: IP Masquerade

2002-04-27 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Richard Beri wrote:

 I would like to set up simple IP Masquerading on my machine for another
 machine on my network to connect to the internet via cable modem.  In the
 past I used a nifty firewall/masquerade setup utility called PM Firewall, but
 it only works on 2.2 kernels.  Is there any simple setup program for
 firewall/masquerade for the kernel 2.4.17?

Yup, *real* simple.

apt-get install ipmasq

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Re: Need Sparc CDs ASAP

2002-04-27 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Michael Mueller wrote:

 I've tried to download .iso images without success.  I've been able to get a
 few RH7.2 iso images, so I'm pretty sure my end of things is working OK.

Give this a shot:
http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/253/binary-sparc-1.iso
http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/253/binary-sparc-2.iso
http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/253/binary-sparc-3.iso

All those point you to a random mirror that carries each image.

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Re: help on make

2002-04-27 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Tim locke wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/test$ make
 c++ -I. -O -Ilinux-include -c Func.cc
 Func.cc: In function `void do_fmt(const char *, Val
 *, ODesc *)':
 Func.cc:247: implicit declaration of function `int
 localtime(...)'
 Func.cc:247: implicit declaration of function `int
 strftime(...)'
 make: *** [Func.o] Error 1

 Any Ideas?

1) Please don't ask us to do your CS homework in the future.  I
recognize the tactic, I tried it in high school.

2) It's not make, it's your code.  It's telling you *exactly* what's
going on.  There's something funky going on at line 247 in Func.cc that
you need to take a long look at.

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Re: apt

2002-04-27 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 27 Apr 2002, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote:

 The following packages have been kept back
   libwraster2 wmaker
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2  not upgraded.
 freak:/home/ernst#

 Why are they kept back?

They depend on packages or specific versions that haven't been released
yet.  Give it a day or two.

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Exim and spamassassin

2002-04-27 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
Is there a way to make exim run everything to all users through
spamassassin, put the spam in ~baloo/mail/zero and deliver the rest of
the mail normally to thier respective users?

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Re: Hard Discs and Virtual Memory ...

2002-04-27 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
Please turn your word wrap on.

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Soul Computer wrote:

 I remember that Linux can use a partition for virtual memory.  Well
 ... I want to upgrade my computer by adding an 80GB HDD and making it
 the boot disc.  The second (original HDD will then be delegated to
 some other use.  It is 1.2GB.  I was wondering if Linux could co-opt
 this second HDD en lieu of the Virtual Memory Partition, and, if so,
 how would I tell it to do so?

Partition the 1.2 as a Linux swap partition, edit /etc/fstab to point to
there for a swap.

Anybody know an easy way to losslessly repartition ext3 to fill the void
after removing an old swap partition?

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Re: How to keep Woody update when not in stable release?

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote:

 Since all the official Debian security announcements are for Potato only,
 how can I keep my Woody up to date? Shoud I grab the patch myself and
 rebuild my patched .deb?

Do this periodically:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

This will sync your woody with Debian's (as if that wasn't a
double-entendra)

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Re: leafnode kupdated

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, sda wrote:

 1/ My system hangs periodically, everything freezes. Running, top the
 culprit seems to be kupdated. What package do I need to remove, to be rid
 of this beast? I assume it's part of KDE [which I don't use anyway] just
 need the libs. Has anyone else seen this behaviour?

kupdated is a kernel daemon, not KDE (though leave it to KDE to make
things more komplex and konfusing and kbloated than necissary, but CDE
and Gnome both suck as well).

 2/ I installed leafnode. I'm used to running and setting it up on other
 boxes and I don't like `dpkg configure' setting it up for me - it's not
 doing it the way I wish. How do I prevent this tool from configuring it
 for me? It does't seem to give one the option to say no...

Don't.  Just copy the configs over from the known-good machine and tweek
as needed.

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Re: linux.debian.user newsgroup

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:

 muc.debian.user, IIRC.  The muc bit I'm sure of.

linux.debian.user.

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Re: linux.debian.user newsgroup

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, ben wrote:

 just out of curiousity, having noticed the same, how is it that certain posts
 don't make it to the archives?

Feel the power of the X-No-Archive: yes header...

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Re: linux.debian.user newsgroup

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:

 on Fri, Apr 26, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 
   muc.debian.user, IIRC.  The muc bit I'm sure of.
 
  linux.debian.user.

 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=engroup=muc.lists.debian.user

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=engroup=linux.debian.user

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Re: linux.debian.user newsgroup

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200105/msg03306.html

 High authority ;-)

 Please *don't* Cc: me on list mail.

Eh, there wasn't a reply-to.  Sorry.

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Re: leafnode kupdated

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, sda wrote:

 That's what I generally do, but for some reason due to the fact that the
 package installer insists on setting it up for me, Woody refuses to run
 the real leafnode config file. It keeps seeing the values entered when I
 apt installed.

Copy the configs in and overwrite apt's idea after it's done, not
before.  When you upgrade, apt/debconf will likely not dick with it
unless there was a major change that requires config tweeking, which
unless you have debconf configured to not bother you, you'll see a box.

 I was just confused as to where the actual system leafnode config file
 resides.

/etc/news/leafnode/config  (IIRC, I've since changed to using nntpcache
as my system needs changed)

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Re: leafnode kupdated

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:

  Thanks fell silly now thinking it was a kde process. I agree both of
  those Window Managers suck, I'm partial to wmaker, icewm and xfce.

 GNOME isn't a window manager.  On one of my boxes, I use icewm with
 GNOME.

Yes, it's a desktop environment, as is KDE and CDE, to name a couple
others.

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Re: cups - Deskjet disabled since Jan 01

2002-04-26 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:

 E [26/Apr/2002:11:08:19 -0500] Unable to open /usr/share/cups/data/psglyphs 
 - Permission denied
 E [26/Apr/2002:11:08:19 -0500] No pages found!

 Why is permission denied?

You don't have read permission on /usr/share/cups/data/psglyphs most
likely.  Check your permissions with ls and adjust as needed.

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spamassassin at a system-wide level?

2002-04-24 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
Would it be possible for spamassassin to be run at a level where
all inbound mail gets run through it and spam forwarded to the local
postmaster?

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Re: spamassassin at a system-wide level?

2002-04-24 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, martin f krafft wrote:

 what's your mta? i crafted a little perlscript that should work with
 exim and postfix, maybe even qmail, and it will act as MDA,
 essentially forcing procmail onto everyone (which is not too much
 a problem). let me know if you're interested...

exim

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Re: re-installing dpkg when dpkg is borked

2002-04-21 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Gary Turner wrote:

   2.  How do you install dpkg if dpkg is broken?  Since I have yet to
 compile any packages, doing so for a critical app is not high on my list
 of druthers.  Find a .tar.gz pkg?

apt-get source dpkg (you must have deb-src lines in your
/etc/apt/sources.list for this to work).  You might be able to boot
using the Debian CD, hit L.alt-F2 to get a console, mount your
partitions in /mnt, chroot /mnt, and use the CD's copy of dpkg to
install dpkg...someone else could probably clarify this since I haven't
done a whole lot of chrooting myself

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