Problems upgrading sendmail (testing)
Dear readers, I think that I were not too smart when upgrading the held back package sendmail for Debian testing. I got the following troubles: 1) The installation program tries to build databases e.g. /etc/mail/access.db. For some reasons it tries to create a file access.new.db with makemap, then to change ownership and permissions, and subsequently move the file to access.db. Unfortunately, makemap was not able to create access.new.db, although it had the right permissions to do so. The only way to have makemap create access.new.db was to manually place a file with that name and give it permissions 666, causing it to be overwritten by makemap. 2) Sendmail was not able to write in some directories in which it should be able to write. In any case, it was not able to write a PID file in /var/run/sendmail/mta before I changed the ownership of this directory to root, and it was not able to write files to /var/spool/mqueue until I changed its ownership from smmta to root. Should I file this as bug or is it just me being stupid? Thanks, Paul Huygen - Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install DHCP
Hello, I am a bit reluctant to ask this seemingly simple question, but I could not find the answer in the docs: I have a computer that was connected to the Internet over ethernet with a fixed IP address. Recently the network manager requested to change to DHCP, and I cannot find out how I have to do that. So, can anybody help me to tell me how to do that? One method would be to re-install Debian from scratch and let the install program perform the task, but that seems overkill to me. The Ethernet Howto does not mention DHCP at all The Linux Networking Howto suggests to use a program Linuxconfig for this task, but I could not find a Debian Linuxconfig package. The Linux networking overview Howto refers to a DHCP mini HOWTO, and the latter suggest Debian users to install a deb package called dhcpcd. However, this package is not available in testing. There is a package DHCP, and the man page associated with this package explains how you can invoke a program called dhcp to obtain an IP lease, but not how Linux can be made to invoke this program during bootup and associate the obtained IP number with the eth0 interface. Installing the DHCP package with APT-get does not configure DHCP. The Unix and Internet Fundamentals Howto does not mention DHCP. Thanks, Paul Huygen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdvi not displaying eps graphics
Lars Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get xdvi to display included eps graphics? [..] xdvi has a button View PS that toggles the capacity to show the postscript pictures (one button above the lowest button). HTH, Paul Huygen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba Won't Take Passwords
Brian W. Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But now, there are two Windows 98 computers attached to [a Samba network] [..] When I try to access it I get a pop-up box labeled Enter Network Password that says You must supply a password to make this connection: Resource: \\DEBIAN\IPC$ Password: [I can enter stuff here] [..] [When I give a password] then another pop-up box comes up saying, The password is incorrect. Try again. Windows 98 computers perform default password encryption. Thus, you either have to implement password encryption in Samba, or you have to disable password encryption in the Windows systems. The former is described in the docs of Samba. The latter can be done as follows (in the Windows 98 computer): 1) Start - Run 2) Type regedit 3) Add the DWORD value to the Registry entry EnablePlainTextPassword (reg Dword) 1 in the following Registry location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSETUP Notes: 1: Case is important in the previous line; 2: I have stolen this text from the Internet, but don't remember from which location. Paul Huygen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latex letter's headers...
Jeremy T. Bouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried your example [of a personal LaTeX Class to produce letters] here but kept running into problems trying to find the hitpos.sty file... Jeremy Thank you for trying. And sorry that it didn't work out. I was toot quick and sent an unfinished example. The following example has actually been tried and works. Paul Huygen. The class: --- % % myletter.cls % \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e} \ProvidesClass{hitlnl}[1999/10/31 Fist, beta, version] %\RequirePackage{hitpos} \RequirePackage[absolute]{textpos} \LoadClass[adresrechts]{brief} \voetitem{Telephone:}{0123-456789} \voetitem{Fax:}{0123-456789} \voetitem{E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \setlength\footsep{30mm} \signature{Dr.~P.E.M.~Huygen} \renewcommand{\briefhoofd}{% \setlength{\TPHorizModule}{1mm} \setlength{\TPVertModule}{1mm} \begin{textblock}{60}(9,36) \parbox{60mm}{ %\mbox{\includegraphics{mylogo.eps}} {\Large The Logo} \\ mycompanynaam \\ myaddress } \end{textblock} } \newcommand{\vg}{Met vriendelijke groet,} Here the letter --- \documentclass{myletter} \begin{document} \begin{brief}{ Jeremy T. Bouse \\ Streetname 123 \\ City \\ Italy } \opening{Dear Jeremy,} this is a small, but complete, letter. \closing{\vg} \end{brief} \end{document}
Re: Latex letter's headers...
Vittorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, actually Latex isn't that easy, is it? [..] My problem is that I can write a letter with latex but I cannot find the right commands to insert the official colour logo of my firm (*.jpg,*.ps,*.pdf) into the header of the letter and other chats in the footer. Well, my thesis is, that writing letters with LaTeX is extremely easy. It takes a little bit of effort to set things up, but then you can produce a letter with less effert than you would need when using a conventional word processor. Your problem with placement of the logo can be solved by using package textpos. With this package you can place a parbox on an absolute position on the page, indepentent of the style parameters of your format. The textpos package can be found on CTAN (www.ctan.org), in directory macros/latex/contrib/supported/textpos. It is not difficult to construct a LaTeX class file that contains the code to place the logo on the letter using textpos, and that includes instructions to produces footers and headers for your letter, as well as your signature etc. As an example I enclode a class that is based on that class that I use to write letters. It is based on brief. cls, a package that implement dutch-style letters. brief.cls supports footers (voetitem), and a briefhoofd command that constructs the header of the letter. --- % % myletter.cls % \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e} \ProvidesClass{hitlnl}[1999/10/31 Fist, beta, version] \RequirePackage{hitpos} \LoadClass[adresrechts]{brief} \voetitem{Telephone:}{0123-456789} \voetitem{Fax:}{0123-456789}} \voetitem{E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \setlength\footsep{30mm} \signature{Dr.~P.E.M.~Huygen} \renewcommand{\briefhoofd}{% \begin{textblock}{60}(9,36) \parbox{60mm}{ \mbox{\includegraphics{mylogo.eps}} \\ mycompanynaam \\ myaddress } \end{textblock} } \newcommand{\vg}{Met vriendelijke groet,} --- A letter can now be as simple as: --- \documentclass{muletter} \begin{document} \begin{brief}{ Vittorio de Mart \\ Streetname 123 \\ City \\ Italy } \opening{Dear Vittorio,} this is a small, but complete, letter. \closing{\vg} \end{brief} \end{document}
lm sensors and VIA chip set
This week I lost a mobo/processor due to a broken fan :-(. Therefore, I would like to monitor the processor temperature. Ti this end I tried to install lm-sensors and i2c-source. After Make-ing i2c-sources, I checked with sensors detect what modules I need. Sensors detect tells me that I need i2e-viapro.o. However, this module does not seem to be present in i2e-source. I can only find some documentation about it in the documentation section of lm-sensors (but no doc on how to obtain the module) Since the via chipset seems to me a very common set, I have the impression that I do something wrong. Can anybody help me and tell me what I should do? Thanks, Paul Huygen Details: I run kernel version 2.2.17. The kernel sources have been patched to enable win4lin. I downloaded lm-sensors version 2.6.2-2 and i2c-sources 2.6.2-1. I have Debian version Potato, but download new packages from Woody.
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about suitable kooks for LaTex): the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the Lamport book is very well written, with amusing texts in the examples, about gnus, gnats and armadillo's. I wish that more handbooks were written like the Lamport book. When I started with LaTeX long ago, I read the first three chapters, and could then easily start. The book seems terse because it is concise, but it is the conciseness that helps you to make a quick start. Paul Huygen
Re: [OT] Open Portable Document Format?
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: [..] PDF of itself is open and standard. It's a reasonable document presentation format (though I tend to prefer postscript). I'd strongly encourage you to use tools other than Adobe's proprietary products, fortunately there are many which can be used to produce PDFs. Peace. I hope that I do not start some flame war and keep peace, but I do not see why Adobe's should not be allowed to make a profit from their standards. Adobe has developed Postscript, which IMHO can be considered as one of the cornerstones of Linux, nearly as important as the Linux kernel and the Gnu software set. The subsequent PDF standard enables platform independent sharing of documents, in spite of the wide spreading of Microsoft Word. This is very important for most of us, who use their computers to do work and need to share information with people who unfortunately use e.g.\ Microsoft Windows. I think it a bit hypocrite to thankfully accept the document standards from Adobe, and then spit on Adobe. Best regards, Paul Huygen (who wants to express his feelings in this matter and not start a flame war).
Re: 3 buttons from a 2 button mouse, how?
Jeremiah Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I want to use an application which requires the use of a middle mouse button of a three button mouse but my mouse only has two buttons. How do I get around this? Usually by pressing the two buttons simultaneously. Paul Huygen
Re: LaTeX templates
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: having tried LaTeX classes and style files, i am now resorting to simple \includes for letters, invoices and whatever; classes and style files are nice, but too complicated for my use Classes are not really complicated. In fact, you can make a kind of sub-class that inherits everyting from a general class and adds some customization. If you wish, I can send you my simple class that I use to make letters. On the other hand, inclusion of files with customization commands is simple too. now, i have a number such templates and i'd like to keep them all in one place, telling LaTeX of this include location. how? The file /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf determines the places where TeX looks for files. This file is well documented. For instance, my texmf.cnf contains lines like: HOMETEXMF = $HOME/texmf TEXMF = {!!$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFMAIN} TEXINPUTS.latex = .;$TEXMF/tex/{latex,generic,}// These lines instruct Tex to look in my directory /home/paul/texmf/latex and subdirectories of this directory, to find LaTeX files. Actually, TeX does not search directly in the directories, but in lists of the files in those directories. When you put files in one of the directories, you have to update the file lists with the command mktexlsr Greet Paul Huygen
Re: emacs related
Ben Hartshorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrin Jose T. wrote: How to fix emacs such that it does not typically do lines longer than 75 columns ? [..] I don't know how to apply [set-fill-column] to the current buffer, because it requires an arguments (the number of characters per column). C-u 75 M-x set-fill-column C-u means control-u and M-c means Meta-x Paul Huygen
Re: Linuxification of DOS text files
V. T. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the program to run to convert DOS text files to Linux text files, and vice versa. I.e., replace 0D 0A with 0A. Kalle Olavi Niemitalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: tr -d '\r' [..] or, use do2unix, in package sysutils Paul
Re: TeX printing problem
Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: After my recent install and upgrade to woody I can't print tex documents. Other printing seems okay, mail messages from mutt print fine. xdvi displays the document properly, but when I try to print the following file: $dvips quantum.tex the printed output is [some Postscript/TeX garbage] [..] Bambang Purnomosidi D. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] answered: Yup. that's the right output. The dvips is used to create ps from dvi file. You need to use -o option for dvips to create a ps file and then you can use gv to view the ps file. Check out man dvips. Yes, you can do it that way. A better way seems to me, to install either APSfilter, Magicfilter, or CUPS. These packages install filters that are invoked by lpr. As a result, lpr recognizes the content type of the file (e.g. postscript, dvi, plain text or some graphics format), translates it automatically to the native code of your printer and then sends it to the queue of your printer. As a result, you can give the command: $ lpr quantum.dvi or, when the dvi file contains postscript: $ dvips -f quantum |lpr I cannot tell which of the three packages APSfilter, magicfilter or CUPS is best. I use magicfilter and that works very well Paul Huygen
Re: TeX printing problem
Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have apsfilter installed. I still get the same results [printer prints postscript code], trying both [ $ lpr quantum.dvi and [ $ dvips -f quantum |lpr ] I would think that, if Ghostscript was broken, the printer would either produce ghostscript error messages, or nothing at all. Therefore, to me it looks like APSfilter is broken in your installation, so that it directs the postscript code directly to the printer queue instead of via Ghostscript. (Just my 0.02. I am not really an expert in this matter) Paul Huygen
Re: How to produce Hungarian documents?
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I'm trying to convert my wife from W95 to Linux - Debian of course. Good idea! The only difficulty is to find a way of producing documents in Hungarian, preferably in as painless a manner as possible [..] Can anyone point me to a program which will allow her to produce her letters and essays and articles in Hungarian? I know of an excellent way to produce documents in many languages. It is TeX/LaTeX. This is a typesetter that allows to process texts in many languages. Many people think that it has far higher quality than conventional text processors (Word, WP, Lotus). The drawback is, that TeX is not really wysiswyg and costs some time to get accustomed to. However, the Lyx package implements a wysiweg processor based on LaTeX (I have no experience with LyX). If you are interested, check out the book LaTeX, a Document Preparation System (Lamport, publ: Addison Wesley), check out LyX documentation and look for documentation about Babel (a kind of add-on to produce multi-lingual documents and supports many languages. It comes standard with almost all TeX distributions). Hope this is interesting for you. Paul Huygen
Re: OT: Collecting data in text files
Abner Gershon wrote: [..] I thought I could record [textual] information [e.g. restaurants, phone lists..] in text files using vim and then use gawk and sed to access this data. I currently collect lists of information on many topics such as restaurants, phone lists, file folders, slides using a database program, Lotus approach. Since I am the only user of this information I thought I could record this information in text files using vim and then use gawk and sed to access this data. [..] Iwould like to know if it is generally better to separate columns with spaces or tabs for this purpose and if this would be the most appropriate technique for collecting and organizing such data. I often use the technique that you propose and it works very well for not too big lists. May people responded to your message suggesting spaces as separator. The problem with spaces is, that you often need to handle short text phrases. Therefore, it is better to use a character that you do not often use in texts, like the tab or the commercial a. Maybe an escape sequence to allow entering this separator char in texts is still needed. Sometimes I just put every item labeled on a separate text line, like: name : Janssen street : Dilbert Street etc, and an empty line to separate the records. This style is very flexible, and allows to omit entries, and to add entries later without problems for former versions of the scripts that handle the text lists. Paul Huygen
Re: LaTeX editor
GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading some messages from TeX fonts and BibTex style threads on this list, and I think perhaps someone can help me to configure an editor to write Tex docs. Currently I'm using raw vim, without any tex feature added! LyX is a special editor and enviroment for (La)TeX. I have no experience with LyX. Lyx is available as Debian package in contrib. Personally I like Emacs with the auc-tex package very much. This combines the advantages of Emacs with the advantage of a specialized environment for (La)TeX, that knows the (La)TeX commands and compiles/debugs the documents on the fly. Auctex is also available as Debian package. I don't know about special TeX environments for VI. Paul Huygen
Re: mitsumi 4802 te
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: what is this ide-scsi? It is a kernel module with which an IDE drive can be treated as if it is a scsi drive. The cd-burner program needs this for IDE CD-burners, since it can only handle SCSI devices. how can i use it? insmod ide-scsi. (See the CD burner howto). where can i find it? which package? It is part of the kernel package. I assume it is available in standard pre-baked kernels, and you can create it when you bake a kernel yourself. If you have it it is located in: /lib/modules/kernel-version/scsi/ide-scsi.o where kernel-version is the version number of your kernel (2.2.17 in my case). Paul Huygen
Re: how-to configure a printer on my potato
Linuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Could you tell me how-to configure a printer in my debian potato? What packages Should I install? Are there any doc ? The Printer is a HP Laser Jet 4050 N 1) Make sure that your kernel supports the parallel port and printers on the parallel port. 2) There is a printer howto (www.linxdoc.org). 3) With package magicfilter you can create filters that handle your printer jobs. That means, if you send a file to the printer, magicfilters looks at the file type and converts the file automatically into a format that is suitable for your printer (eg PCL). 4) I have installed lpr and magicfilter and that runs fine. However, I understand that CUPS is a modern alternative for the two (am I right?) Paul Huygen
Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also run vmware (http://www.vmware.com) on your machine, and just run outlook on top of that. You *could* do that, because VMware is a sophisticated program that seems to work very well. However, to continuously run an application like Outlook, Vmware seems not very suitable. VMware shares the processor cycles evenly between the virtual machines that it supports. As a result, the Outlook application would use up half of the processor time, although it does not do anything most of the time. Win4lin (www.win4lin.com), a (commercial) program that also enables to run windows under Linux, seems to be better suited for this type of work. In Win4lin, the windows sub-process allocates processor time only when it really needs it to do work. I use Win4lin to solve a similar problem. I am addicted to the contact manager ACT, that runs only under Windows (BTW, suggestions of Linux programs that are similar to ACT are very welcome). Paul Huygen
Re: [OT] Harassment of open source developer
Balbir Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adobe lawyers ask developer of killustrator to pay fines for using a name that abuses their trade mark illustrator. This reminds me of a similar case in the Netherlands, about ten years ago. About one hundred years ago some enthousiastic bicycle riders founded the general bicylists society. In Dutch it was named ANWB, abbreviation of Algemene Nederlandse Wielrijders Bond. However, in the course of the years, this society turned more or less away from bicyclists and became mainly an automobile service organization and lobby club. Some ten years age bicyclysts who were dissatisfied with this development, founded an alternative Real Dutch Bicyclists Society (ENWB, Echte Nederlandse Wielrijders Bond). The ANWB sued the ENWB because their name was too similar with ANWB, and, unfortunately, in the end the ENWB had to change their name. Paul Huygen
Re: PDF file generation.
Matt Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, in my experience, I've never seen a ps-to-pdf converter that works. Do you use Potato, Woody or Sid? The problem seems to be, that Ghostscript with versions 6.5 seems to be broken with respect to PDF generation (ps-to-pdf converters are usually scripts that call Ghostscript to do the work). Rumours go that version 7.0 is whacky. So, you need Ghostscript version 6.5, if you want to do ps--PDF. In Debian, this is only available in Sid. So, if you want to do ps--PDF, You have either to run Sid, or to compile Ghostscript 6.5 by yourself. In particular, if the documents were originally written in TeX/LaTeX, there is a program called pdflatex that converts LaTeX documents into PDF, and has always worked correctly in my experience. How do you include pictures in your PDF documents? PDFlatex wants pictures in PDF format, and these are hard to generate if the ps-to-PDF converter is broken Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: An *idea* that *might* put Debian on top (?)
D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:24:10PM -0700, Jack Pryne wrote: [suggestion for community-wide sharing of config info and experience] Well, I understood that wat he actually wanted, was to create a kind of automatic install utility. This all sounds like a nice idea, but consider that we already have most of that. There are projects like LinuxDoc, NewbieDoc, and others that provide lots of good information about how to install and setup various portions of a system. Also just listen on debian-user for a while and you will learn alot about different hardware configurations and how to get them to work (or which ones just don't work well). Maybe the problem is, that there is too much documentation. Furthermore, the documentation has been written by expert users, who do not always have a feeling about what newbies find trivial and what not (this is not meant to criticise. I am amazed, that so many experts are willing to spend their time in writing accurate documentation for the Linux community, and the documentation is certainly indispensible). As a result, for a non-expert user it is very hard to keep up. What I imagine would be a helpful addition to the existing documentation, is a database of simple installation sheets, that do not really explain things, but just contain a step-wise list of actions to perform the installation of the part (no more than one-two sheets), supplemented with config files. For explanation, at most pointers to the existing howto's should be added. The database should be organized according to hardware parts (motherboard, network connection type, peripheral bus (IDE/SCSI) etc.) and software versions (e.g. Debian version, kernel version). When a user buys a new part, she can query the database and obtain (hopefully) one or a few installation sheets that describe how the new part can be installed in a computer and installation that is at least similar to what she has. If she is lucky, she does exactly what one of the installation sheets tell her to do, and she ends up with a working system. In that case she can attach a worked for me too note to the installation sheet in the database, so that it may gain confidence from other users. If she has to modify steps or config files, she can attach a note tot the installation sheet that describes the modifications and the reason that they had to be made). If it turned out, that for some reason, none of the obtained installation sheets worked for her, she has to investigate why not, and then she has to find out by herself how to perform a successful installation. Afterwards, she can write up what she has done, and contribute this as an installation sheet to the database. To contribute an installation sheet into the database would pay back. It is always wise to write down for yourself how you installed things. When a database like the one proposed exists, you are more urged to do so, because you also help the Debian community. Moreover, the burden to manage your own documentation has been taken over by the database manager. Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: oldtimer pc
MaD dUCK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so i pulled this old 486-33 machine out of the basement, it's got 8Mb RAM, a shitty graphics card, and 240Mb of HDD space. it's ISA only, but i want to try using an AVM FritzCard and a cheap NE2000 compatible to make it be a masquerading router. it's probably going to fail, but i want to try anyway. There is no reason for it to fail. I have a similar machine (but then without a hard disk) running as masquerading router, between broadcast networking cable and a few other computers. I think the easiest way to do this, is to find a linux-on-a-flop system. see e.g. the (Debian-based) Linux router project (lrp.c0wz.com). In such a system, the complete operating system is downloaded from a floppy onto a ram-disk in main memory (and yet no more than 8 megabyte memory is needed in the computer). So, if someone hacks into your router, you can reboot the machine, and everything has been undone. Site http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Mini_Distributions/ provides a list of mini-linux distributions that are suitable for running on old, small computers. Good luck, Paul Huygen
Re: Running Windows Apps on Linux
Ian Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to run Microsoft Windows Apps (such as Excel etc) in XWindows or is there a utility which allows this ? 1) Wine (http://packages.debian.org/stable/otherosfs/wine.html) is an open-source project, to implement the Windows API's in Linux. It is still in alpha/beta stage, and not all Windows software packages run under Wine yet. Probably popular software like microsoft Office will run under wine. Advantages: a) Open source, free, b) Windows itself is not needed c) Economical on resources. Disadvantage: Still in pre-release stadium. Not all Windows applications can run under Wine. I tried Wine, but it cannot yet run the software that is important for me (ACT, NeuroModel). 2) VMware (www.VMware.com) implements virtual Intel computers within a computer running Linux or Windows. The virtual computers can run Windows or other operating systems. Advantages: Seems to work very well. Very flexible (capable to run many OS'es at the same time in a single computer). Disadvantages: a) Not open-source, b) very resource-hungry, c) costs money, d) Microsoft Windows Installation kit is necessary and must be installed in the virtual machine. I tried VMWare and found that it worked well, but that it was too resource-hungy for me. 3) Win4Lin (www.win4lin.com) enables to run Windows 95 or 98 within Linux. Advantages: a) Seems to work very well, b) Much more economical on resources than VMware is. Disadvantages: a) Not open-source, costs money, b) Does not explicitly support Debian (but the help-desk is very helpful in solving Debian related problems), c) There is a need to patch and recompile the kernel, d) Microsoft Windows Installation kit is necessary and must be installed. I tried win4lin, found that it worked well, and decided to buy it. An important consideration for buying was, that their E-mail helpdesk provided prompt and adequate answers on questions. Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: 486 router is very slow
Raffaele Sandrini wrote: I set up a router with my old 486 computer [potato, kernel 2.4] Normally i have have rates of 7.8 kb/s (ISDN) throughput. But if i try it over my new router the rate is not more than 2 kb/s. Is it possible that the Masquerading process takes too much recources on that machine? It's a 33 Mhz Intel DX Processor. I think your 486 computer is not the limiting factor. I have a firewall-router with masquerading on a 33 MHz 486 compu, connected with a ne2000 compatible ethernet card to a cable modem. The operating system is Linux on a flop (Linux Router Project, kernel 2.0.16). Often data transfer rates have values like 30 kb/s. Any hints to speed that up? No. sorry. Regards, Paul Huygen.
Re: Succes with Win4lin 3.0 on Potato?
Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those guys at Netravese do not support Debian (I wrote them about that). It requires some kernel patch and tweaks, I was wondering if anyone here has had a go at it yet. Any reports most welcome. About a month ago, I tried win4lin on Debian, and got it running. I installed their package over the Debian RPM, and got two problems. Netravers helped me in both cases very well via E-mail. One issue was, that the install script needed a small modification. Another problem was the accessibility of the CDROM device (I had to change permission bits). In the end win4lin seemed to work. Since win4lin version 2.0 had problems with a Windows program that was important for me (the contact manager ACT), I did not buy win4lin. However, the latest version, 3.0 should have solved this problem, and therefore I am currently re-evaluating win4lin. Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: Gnumeric - too big
Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you not run many gnome packages ?? Many of those are pretty standard packages that you would need installed anyway for other gnome programs. [..] , if you want to run *one* gnome app, you have to accept the dependencies that go with it... I have another experience. After I have installed Debian, my package management program becomes a mess, and I install new packages with dpkg after downloading from the Debian site. Although I do not run gnome, I installed gnumeric this way (in Potato), and had to install only a few extra packages (do not remember which ones, but less than five) because of dependencies. Gnumeric runs fairly well now. Paul Huygen.
Re: LaTeX convertion tools
Saqib Shaikh wrote: I am wondering if there are any programs (preferabley Debian packages but not necessarily) to aid in converting LaTeX documents to ASCII text, HTML, RTF or Info? Michael Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] For ASCII, you probably want detex. I think that this depends from the reason you want ASCII. If I have to send a manuscript without many math to a journal, I usually convert it to ASCII using dvi2tty. This has the advantage that the structure of the document has been retained as good as possible, and that accented letters are retained. Cheers, Paul Huygen
Re: LaTeX to text (was Re: firing up DocBook)
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: My understanding is that there is a LaTeX to text conversion which preserves page numbering, keeps ToC and indices valid, etc. I think you refer to dvi2tty. The aim of this program was to enable previewing TeX documents on text-based console terminals. As its name tells, it uses the dvi file as input. I use it often to prepare manuscripts for journals that do not accept decent manuscript formats. Paul Huygen
Re: Here you have
DSC Lithuania [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that was a highly irresponsible thing to do. I do use Microsoft Outlook [..] Actually, I think the person who sent the virus to the mailing list did this by accident, because he used Microsoft Outlook, like you do. It would be nice to know if I have a new virus, considering that you may have sent one out. I am afraid this is possible. Sorry. And as far as it goes, yes I do use protection, but there are limits to how good protection can be. Considering the viruses that came up lately, I think the best protection scheme is to stop using Outlook. I understand that for Windows the mailing program Eudora is safer. I think I may have to give up linux rather than further risk my company's computer. I would draw another conclusion. Tragically, you were infected via a Linux discussion list (again, I assume and hope, that the virus submission was an accident). However, you could equally well have been infected by other sources (friends, who use Outlook and have your adres in their Outlook address book). The reason that you were infected, and most of the other participants of this list were not, is, that you used Microsoft and Outlook. Therefore, if I were afraid for this kind of viruses, I would choose the operating system that is is less vulnerable (i.e. Linux) I am sorry for the virus problems that you may currently have and wish you good luck, Paul Huygen.
Re: Making PDF files from dvi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tiarnan O Corrain) asked: Does anyone know any utility to make pdf files from dvi or ps ones? Many people answered this question. One way to achieve this, is to first convert the dvi into a ps, and then convert the ps to pdf. However, at least dvips uses fixed-bitmapped fonts, that result in an ugly PDF. To prevent this (at least in my Potato system), add command line option -Ppdf to the dvips command that generates the ps file. Greets, Paul Huygen
Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: how do I find out which IRQ [my internal PnP modem] uses using linux tools? I think by typing: cat /proc/interrupts Paul Huygen
Re time-frequency analysis and Gabor spectrogram software in Debian?
Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Is anyone aware of software available in Debian or for *nix at large that will allow me to calculate gabor spectrograms and do general time-frequency analysis on signal data that is not limited to audio file formats? I don't know what Gabor spectrograms are, but I think you can use Octave, or the commercial package Matlab (The Math Works). Paul Huygen
Re: latex question
Manuel Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a latex file like g-brief.cls which is especialy for business letters. What I need to do is to define the footnote by myself. Can anyone give me a hint. I don't know about g-brief, but the brief class (in package ntgclass) enables titled footers. For instance, the command \voetitem{bankaccount}{1234567890} results in a foot item titled bankaccount I need to write many letters, and therefore I made my own class file, hitlnl.cls, derived from brief. It has four footers, and lists essentially as follows: \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e} \ProvidesClass{hitlnl}[1999/10/31 Fist, beta, version] \LoadClass[adresrechts]{brief} \voetitem{Telefoon:}{1234567890} \voetitem{Fax:}{0987654321} \voetitem{\textsc{kvk} utrecht:}{6789012} \voetitem{E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \setlength\footsep{30mm} \ondertekening{Paul Huygen} \renewcommand{\briefhoofd}{ **fancy header for the letter**} \newcommand{\vg}{Yours sincerely,} Creating a letter is now very simple: \documentclass{hitlnl} \begin{document} \begin{brief}{Mr. Doe \\ street nr \\ city} \opening{Dear Mr. Doe,} This is a very short letter. \closing{\vg} \end{brief} \end{document}
Re: latex question
Manuel Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a latex file like g-brief.cls which is especialy for business letters. What I need to do is to define the footnote by myself. Can anyone give me a hint. I don't know about g-brief, but the brief class (in package ntgclass) enables titled footers. For instance, the command \voetitem{bankaccount}{1234567890} results in a foot item titled bankaccount I need to write many letters, and therefore I made my own class file, hitlnl.cls, derived from brief. It has four footers, and lists essentially as follows: \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e} \ProvidesClass{hitlnl}[1999/10/31 Fist, beta, version] \LoadClass[adresrechts]{brief} \voetitem{Telefoon:}{1234567890} \voetitem{Fax:}{0987654321} \voetitem{\textsc{kvk} utrecht:}{6789012} \voetitem{E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \setlength\footsep{30mm} \ondertekening{Paul Huygen} \renewcommand{\briefhoofd}{ **fancy header for the letter**} \newcommand{\vg}{Yours sincerely,} Creating a letter is now very simple: \documentclass{hitlnl} \begin{document} \begin{brief}{Mr. Doe \\ street nr \\ city} \opening{Dear Mr. Doe,} This is a very short letter. \closing{\vg} \end{brief} \end{document}
Re: Which are the packages for Navigator ?
robert_wilhelm_land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ezequiel Reyes wrote: [..] I tried searching for the netscape navigator packages in the Debian site [..], but I get a large list of packages in the resulting search page [..] There are some of them that seem to belong to diferent versions (4.5, 4.7 etc) [..] Could anybody tell me which are the ones I should download for a minimal instalation of navigator ? Just installed Communicator 4.73 [..] When you use Dselect, it should be easy to install Navigator. Just order the package Navigator. Then dselect tells you what other packages you need. Howeverm when I am well informed, Navigator up to version 4.73, at least the Java engine in it, is unsafe. The safe Navigator version, 4.75, is not in Potato, but in Woody. Therefore, I installed this version from the Web site, which is a PITA. I wonder whether it is a good idea to incorporate Navigator 4.75 in some way into Potato. Greets, Paul Huygen.
Re: HP 4L
Petteri Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [My] gs prints ps-files so that only one fourth (top-left corner) of ps is actually printed (fitted on one sheet). [I issue command] gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps If you configure the printer on your computer with magicfilter, chances are that everything is going to work right from the beginning. Anyway, the Magic-filter script for my Laserjet 5L printer issues for PS files: /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: VIRUS WARNING - apologies
Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, after I calmed down, I looked at my headers and saw that I did not send the virus warning. [..] *sigh of relief* On the other hand, if you did send the virus warning, you didn't do a bad thing, because it seems, that alphaholidays sent a message to this list (header: Linux on HP 9000 C-Class) that contains a kind of virus or trojan horse. Greets, Paul Huygen
Re: Urgent LaTex question
Loren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a quick LaTex question. Is there a way to make LaTex _not_ justify the text on the right?[..] It's for a paper which I need to submit tomorrow morning, [..] \begin{flushleft} blabla bloebloe etc. \end{flushleft} works. Probably there are better ways, but at least this will help you before your deadline. Paul Huygen
Re: how to turn off auto-fill-mode in XEmacs21?
Attila Csosz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to turn off the line wrappping (xemacs truncates the long lines at the end of line). I think this is the variable 'auto-fill-mode' but I can't turn it off. How to turn it off? I am not sure that I understand what you mean. Auto-fill-mode generates automatically splits a line that is longer than the value of parameter fill-column. Emacs actually splits the line in the text file. The last word of the line, that sticks out, becomes the first word of the new line. This feature can be toggled on/off with the command M-x auto-fill-mode. If auto-fill mode is on, the word fill appears omn the black status-line under the text. To turn auto-fill on automatically for my emacs 19.34, I have the following line in my .emacs: (setq text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) But maybe, you refer to the way that the editor handles lines that are too long to be displayed in the editor's window. My emacs displays those lines wrapped, but does not necessarily split the line in the text file. A backslash character indicates that the line is continued on the next line. I don't know how to alter this behaviour. Paul Huygen
Re: Console based Word Processor
USM Bish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm actually looking for a word processor for small time jobs like letters and other odd things that I push out on my DMP. This type of odd jobs actually occupies 60% of my time. I am getting tired of switching to X for such small stuff. I have to write many small letters too. However, contrary to general opinions, I think that (Emacs and) LaTeX provides an at least as efficient way to type letters than standard word processors or editors do. The trick is, to make a style file (e.g. mypersonalletterstyle.cls) that builds the letter including header, head items, foot items, date, signature etc, and to make a keyboard macro for the editor of choice that generates the following frame for the letter, e.g.: \documentclass{mypersonalletterstyle} \begin{document} \begin{letter}{*name and address of adressee*} *text of the letter here* \closing{*closing sentence here*} \end{letter} \end{document} Then, all you have to do to create a beautyful letter, is 1) activate the keyboard macro to generate the letter frame, 2) replace the parts between the asterixes by the actual texts and 3) LaTeX and print the letter. Paul Huygen
Re: Converting text to Word
Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) You want to send a Word document to somebody who wants to process it with Word. In that case, send her the plain ASCI text, and tell her that she can import it in Word by clicking import as [text files]. That's the one,[..] There is one thing that you can do to help the Word user. In text processors like Word, paragraphs are not separated into lines in the electronic version, but only during the instantiation on screen or paper. So, you could consider to remove single end-of-line characters, but not double end-of-line characters with some scripting language like awk. Paul Huygen
Re: Converting text to Word
Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a utility to convert a text file into the format used by MS's Office 2000? Yes. It is part af a software package called Office 2000, and it's sold by Microsoft. (Un)fortunately they have not ported it to Linux. So, there are two possibilities: 1) You need the utility, because you intend to use Office 2000. In that case you didn't ask your question on this list. 2) You want to send a Word document to somebody who wants to process it with Word. In that case, send her the plain ASCI text, and tell her that she can import it in Word by clicking import as [text files]. Paul Huygen
Re: Modem not working
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a bit of a problem getting my modem working under Debian Slink 2.1, and really I'm beginning to think that I will have to do something drastic as playing with jumpers. It's a SupraSST 56i PRO DF card (Diamond Multimedia) Is that a normal, full-functioning modem or a crippled, so-called winmodem? The latter type is made to work under Windows, but not necessarily under other operating systems. So, if the box or the manual says this modem is a winmodem, then the best thing you can do is to return it to you supplier. Good luck, Paul Huygen
Re: Another install on an old 486
Mike Rayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning on getting a cable modem or DSL hooked up soon and am looking to setup a firewall (IP masq) for that connection [but] I am having trouble getting Debian to install on my old 486-33. I have a Sony cdu31a attached to an ISA SoundBlaster MultiCD sound card. Do you have that studd only for the purpose to install Linux? In that case you can think about installing LPR (Linux Router Project. That's what I did when I installed a firewall on an old 486 computer (33 Mhz, 8 MB) in order to connect to a cable modem. With LRP you create a complete Linux OS on a single floppy disk, that installs itself on a ram disk in memory. There is a howto that explains how to make a firewall with IP masquerading. In my place this thing has been running for a month without problem. Look at www.linuxrouter.org. Succes, Paul Huygen
Re: 2 networks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan M. Wind) wrote: I KNOW OF A PRODUCT ... All caps spam, it can't get much worse. I doubt whether the message Mr. Wind referred to was spam. It seems to me that it is an answer to a question that someboby asked one or two days before. The all caps might be just an accident. Paul Huygen
Re: Printers in Linux
S.P. van Noort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to buy a (not to expensive color) printer which will be used on a Linux-only-box, and I wonder of any of you has some good ideas about it. [..] The printers I've seen here in Holland are, a.o. HP 610, 710, 720, 815, 840, 880 [..] I can't find any of the printers in magicfilter and apsfilter. I have a HP Deskjet 690C. I am not sure whether I can recommend it. Anyway, Ghostscript from gs-alladin (the none-free Ghostscript) that came with Debian Slink contains HPDJ drivers for the printers that you mentioned. This seems to work at least reasonably well. I have modified (hacked in a dirty way) a magicfilter script to get it running. Paul Huygen
Re: reading rtf files
E.L. Meijer (Eric) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any utility/program in debian that assists in _reading_ rtf files? I only found a few that can generate them. As far as I know, at least Ghostview can read them. Paul Huygen
Re: reading rtf files: I shouldn't talk nonsense.
Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, at least Ghostview can read [rtf files]. Sorry, I should not talk nonsense. I mistook rtf for PDF. Paul Huygen
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Guilherme Soares Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, do anyone know of a good Linux replacement for Windows' Microcal Origin? I'd need a program that can create scientific graphics/plots (no need for 3D plots), do both linear and nonlinear function fitting (preferrably it should allow the user to enter his own functions, as I'd need to do many non-standard fits, like a sum of Legendre Polynomials, for instance) and be able to exchange data with MS Excel and/or Microcal Origin (even if it cannot export and/or import the graphics, I'd need to import/export the data)... If possible, I'd like it to be at least *a bit* intuitive to use, also... Unfortunately I don't know Microcal Origin. Do you know Gnuplot? That is a very flexible scientific plotting program. There exists an extension Gnufit with which you can do curve fitting. Furthermore, free matlab clones like Octave and Scitech can generate gnuplot scripts. In that way you can do almost anything with numbers and plotting. A drawback for you might be that Gnuplot has the advantages as well as the disadvantages of being CLI (and not GUI) oriented. Paul Huygen
Re: Debian 2.0 tetex not OK
Suresh Kumar.R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed debian 2.0 successfully with tetex. When I compile a package with seminar package used, it says seminar.cls not found. But I have installed the tetex-src package and seminar.cls is there in the system. So, what to do? Probably you know the following already, but otherwise ... 1) Does your TeX file begin with \documentstyle or \documentclass? If it begins with \documentstyle, you use an obsolete version of LaTeX. In that case, either look for a file seminar.sty or upgrade to LaTeX2e. 2) There is a possibility that this file is not included in database files called ls-R, and on which TeX relies when searching for packages etc. If your seminar.cls resides on a legal place, you can update the database files with a command mktexlsr. After the upgrade TeX should be able to find your class file. Paul Huygen
Re: newbie needs help veiwing files
Quoting Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- DOUGLAS HUNTER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I'm in bash and trying to ls large files I can only see the last part of the file due to it scrolling past too fast. Is there a command to insert that means I can veiw the output page by page and change pages when I want to ? ls | more The pipe ('|') feeds stdout from the first command into stdin of the second one. Sorry to drop in without having read the original message. In my opinion more is an outdated command. more divides the file to be displayed into screenfull's, and displays them one screen after another. Program as less, zless or most enable you to scroll through the file to be read. In other words, you can go up and down, instead of only down. Thus, if you want to look what files you have in a directory with many files, you can do: ls |less If you want to read a large file with text, you can do: less file.txt - End forwarded message -
Re: Error with LaTeX
Brian Lavender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the error I get: [..] I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! Is there supposed to be a latex.fmt somewhere on my system? Yes, there is. You can generate one using either a program initex or to run TeX in a special way. Usually latex.fmt comes with the TeX distribution or it is generated on the fly during the installation of the TeX package. I suggest you to look at the documentation of your TeX package. Paul Huygen
Re: HP Deskjet 880C
Peter Eades wrote: Does anyone else use a HP DeskJet 880c, I have vanila slink with the proposed updates bits. Please tell me it is well supported by magic filter. Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use an HP Deskjet 890c [with] the 550c print filter, which tends to go a bit heavy on the ink, and the color quality isn't great [..]. I think there is a filter out there specifically for the 8xx series [..] If this deskjet is supported by the 550c driver, then it is surely better supported by the HPLJ driver. This filter comes standard with the Alladin ghostscript package in the non-free department of Slink. I use this for my HP640? deskjet. However, I could not find a magicfilter filter for this driver I modified an existing filter for my purposes.
Re: Presentations with latex
Manuel Arenaz Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before installing Debian Slink [..], I had a latex class called seminar.cls available. Nevertheless, I cannot use it now bacause it is not installed. Which package(s) do I have to install? Are there any other latex recomended packages to install? You have to install the seminar package. Probably you also have to install the pstricks package. You can find them in the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network (CTAN), e.g. at ftp.shsu.edu under /tex-archive, or at www.cs.ruu.nl. In the archive there is a pointer to a search engine that helps you to find the items. Paul Huygen
Re: Running X-Displays of win9x
Quoting Kecskemethy Zoltan [EMAIL PROTECTED] (who answered a question about an Xwindows server for Windows: ps: i apologize i think this is offtopic but i cant answer his mail addr. I think it is not off-topic. Usually, people who ask questions do not give a summary of the answers they got, and other people (i.c. me) might be interested in the answers. Furthermore, Xwindows servers for Windows provide an extra means to use Linux systems. So, thank you for your suggestion Paul Huygen
Re: How can I get a listing of ALL installed Packages
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the parameters [to make dpkg list ALL installed Packages] ??? $ dpkg -l Paul Huygen
Re: FAX WITH ISDN
Alexander P. Barkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any server or program which provides FAX with ISDN? I hate to have to say it, but as far as I know, you cannot fax with Linux and an ISDN adapter. It is not a big problem, because you can connect a cheap analog modem to a serial port in order to fax in the POTS style. The main problem that I have with this situation is, that we claim that Linux is a superior OS compared to Windows, but that nevertheless Linux is not capable to handle faxes with ISDN, whereas Windows is. Paul Huygen
Re: X-WINDOW FREEZE
Camiel Coenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I sometimes run into the problem of an X-Window freeze [..] annoying because I have to reboot my system by using the reset button Is there a solution to prevent or avoid such a freeze ? I can't help you with a solution to the freeze problem. However, if your X-windows freezes, you can probably shut down X-windows only, by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace simultaneously. In this way you don't have to reboot your system with the reset button. Paul Huygen
Re: printing specific pages
Jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not found anything about printing only certain pages. Is it possible? Probably. How to do it depends on the format of the pages that you want to be printed. Are the pages in Postscript, TeX, Troff, Word, Wordperfect, or something else? Paul Huygen
Re: [Off Topic] latex section question
Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [..] I need to use something like \subsubsubsection But latex only goes to \subsubsection. I have already used \part as well. How do I over come this problem? I know four possibilities: 1) Use \paragraph instead of \subsubsubsection. I am not shure whether paragraphs are numbered in the usual styles. 2) If paragraphs are not numbered and you require numbering, hack your way in the style file. 3) Look in the CTAN archives for a solution. E.g. look at http://www.ora.com/homepages/CTAN-Web/search.html to search into the archive. I have only a dutch adress of the CTAN archives handy: ftp.cs.ruu.nl 4) Look again at your manuscript. Is it absolutely necessary, and not ugly, to use numbered sections at five levels deep? Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: [OT] How to find the exact time, when the serial data arrived?
Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Thanks, but the real problem is that I need to know when the serial data reaches the port, not when my process receives them :-(. Then you need a real-time operating system, that guarantees response times. As far as I know, a real-time Linux is currently in development. A brief search on Internet delivers the following resources: http://luz.cs.mnt.edu/~rtlinux http://wwwa2.kph.uni-mainz.de/ftp/pub/machines/linux/realtime-linux/ I hope this information is helpful for you. Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: Automatic software installing (like Win. 2000)
John Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [objections for auto-installing Debian packages when a user types a command from a package that has not yet been installed. One of the objections is, that package installation ought to be a task of the manager of the computer system and not of an ordinary user] I can imagine another philosophy for automatic package installing. I am sure that many people (I myself for instance) have installed many more packages than they actually use. For that case I can imagine a utility that remembers for each package the latest occasion that it has actually been used, and removes the package if it has not been used for a specific time. Then, if a user asks for that package, the utility re-installs the package from the deb file. In this way the system maintainer keeps control on what is installed, what is installable and what is not installed and the system is as mean and lean as possible. On the other hand, I presume that it is very complicated to write a program that tracks the actual use of each installed debian package. Paul Huygen
Re: quick simple latex question
Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I just cannot find out how to set the a4paper to landscape. I use: [..] \usepackage{portland} LaTeX2e has the landscape option built in, so portland is not needed. You need portland if you want to switch between landscape and portland in a single document. The only problem is, that you have to tell the printer driver to switch to landscape. The following document will be printed in landscape when it is converted to ps with dvips (the most generally used printer driver): \documentclass[11pt,a4paper,landscape]{artikel3} \special{landscape} \begin{document} This document is in landscape. Look for yourself. \end{document} The \special{} is included tot tell dvips to print in landscape. Paul Huygen
Re: ISDN PROBS :((((
Rene Feenstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still can't get my ISDN card to connect to my isp [..] I've made an chatscript for it using pppconfig. [chatscript] I think you don.t need a chat script. Installing an ISDN card and getting it to run is a pain in the a**. However, there is a dutch WWW site from Paul Slootman (maintainer of the isdnutils package) that is very helpful. It is in Dutch. Look at: http://www.wurtel.demon.nl/i4l-howto-nl.html Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: adding local TeX sty files
Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I wanted to add my local teTeX sty files, where on the system is the proper Debian place to put them? I presume you have standard TeTeX on your system. The file /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf controls where TeX finds the files it needs. E.g. my texmf.cnf mentions TEXMFLOCAL = /usr/lib/texmf/local This location is however a symbolic link to /usr/local/lib/texmf. Therefore, I store my local LaTeX files in /usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/latex and my .bib files in /usr/local/lib/texmf/bibtex/bib. The texmf.cnf file mentions also a place for personal files: HOMETEXMF = $HOME/texmf So, you can e.g. store LaTeX files in ~/texmf/tex/latex/ Paul Huygen
Re: Any danger in dselecting emacs packages?
Andr Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading a lot online that emacs takes up a lot of space and sometimes causes strange things to happen on the screen and within debian's setup [..] do you know if there any dangers in me running dselect on emacs packages? As far as I know, there are no dangers in installing Emacs. Emacs takes a lot of memory, but it is a great editor that you can use for nearly everything, and memory is cheap nowadays. Are there any disadvantages to not having emacs installed in my system? Yes, you can not use Emacs :-) I do not know of other disadvantages.
Re: Referencing Tables in Latex?
Andrew Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However when I try to [reference with the \label/\ref mechanism]] with a reference to a table, it prints the section the table is in, instead of the number of the table. What you want to achieve can only be done if you put the table in a table float, e.g. \begin{table} \begin{tabular} ... ... ... \end{tabular} \label{tab:a-table} \caption{blablabla} \end{table} Paul Huygen
Re: Referencing Tables in Latex?
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about my suggestion on how to put a \label in in a table): \label{tab:a-table} \caption{blablabla} \end{table} I think that's wrong. Have you tried it? The \label needs to be in a \caption. Well, actually I haven't tried right before writing the answer. Sorry. On the other hand, the way I described how to do it is the way my Emacs editor prompts me how to do it. The following works for me: \documentclass[11pt]{artikel3} \begin{document} In table~\ref{tab:tabel1} we see blablabla, while in table~\ref{tab:tabel2} we see bliblibli. \begin{table}[htbp] \begin{tabular}{ll} bla bla \\ bla bla \\ bla bla \\ bla bla \\ \end{tabular} \caption{De blablabla tabel} \label{tab:tabel1} \end{table} \begin{table}[htbp] \begin{tabular}{ll} bli bli \\ bli bli \\ bli bli \\ bli bli \\ \end{tabular} \caption{De bliblibli tabel} \label{tab:tabel2} \end{table} \end{document}
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Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about giving emacs a look see, [..] This thing is HUGE. [..] for me to download 10 or 25MB worth of text editor, this thing better do everything except mop the floor. David Z. Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied, telling that Emacs can be used for virtually anything, and that it provides wonderful tools for program development e.g. in C. I fully agree. At the end of his reply he writes: (not flaming) I don't use Emacs for *everything*. Mail, news, coding, TeX, it's wonderful, but from day-to-day text editing it is kind of big and huge. Yay vim. :-) On the other hand, I find one of the advantages of Emacs, that you can do every kind of editing, so that it is not necesary to get used to another editor. And once you have installed Emacs in your computer, why not utilise the 10 to 25 megs as much as possible. On current state-of-the-art computers, and even on computers that were state-of-the-art a few years ago, Emacs is not notably slower than any other editor, and once you are used to the Emnacs commands, they are not harder than the commands of any other editor (on the contrary, I would say). Therefore I start Emacs routinely during login and use it for everything that involves editing. It is only a pity that I have up to now not been successfull to let Emacs mob my floor or wash my dishes. Paul Huygen
Re: Emacs
Richard Harran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean that you can run emacs in (MS) Windows. If so, could you please tell me where to find the windows version. Maybe it is a shame to discuss this on a Linux list. However: I have emacs running on Win95. The package that contains the distribution is called NTemacs. The distribution on my computer (containing v.19.34.6, dated september 22, 1997) could be found on the ftp server: ftp://ftp.cs.washington.edu/pub/ntemacs/19.34 It installed easy and runs well on Win95 (and Win NT, although I have never tried that). Long time ago I used a re-engineered of emacs under MS-DOS. I forgot the name. (If you are interested, contact me personally, and I will try to find it.) That version worked almost like the real Emacs. The main differences were: 1) Although it was fully programmable like the real emacs, it used a completely different language called Mint. Thus, the .el files could not be used. 2) The files to be edited cannot be larger than 64 kByte. Paul Huygen.
Re: How to get Debian and (argh!) Windows 95 machines linked through null modem?
Pablo (Spectra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a big problem and little time to solve. Can anyone help me? I have to get a Debian (hamm) machine and a (argh!) Windows 95 one linked through a null modem cable using PPP protocol. The Debian machine can be able to connect Internet through ppp0. Try Samba. Debian supports Samba. Samba supports the Windows networking style via TCP-IP. Alas, I can't help you with the lack of time you have. Recently I have set up a network with Samba and it has cost me much time and many questions on a local dutch Linux mailing list to get it going. Paul Huygen
Re: A pipe dream? (a.k.a. File Backups)
Harrison, Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Much of what is customized or specific in the system is found in the /etc directory, and then all of your data files should be in the /home directory. So if you back up those two trees, you'll be mostly there, I would think. You should also consider the tree under /usr/local.
Re: Later and surepimposing a text.
Sergey Imennov [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: How can I [ superimpose an image over a page, something similar to DRAFT or COPYWRITED] Will I need some additional package? You can do this using the postscript driver dvips (and ghostscript). Tomas Rockicki gives the following \special statement to write a light DRAFT across each page (TexInfo on Dvips): \special{!userdict begin /bop-hook{gsave 200 30 translate 65 rotate /Times-Roman findfont 216 scalefont setfont 0 0 moveto 0.7 setgray (DRAFT) show grestore}def end} Apart from this, the LaTeX Companion (Goossens, Mittebach and Samarin, ISBN 0-201-54199-8) mentions a package named draftcopy that prints the word DRAFT diagonally across each page. Yours, Paul Huygen
Re: LaTeX and overhead production
Simon Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I'd like to use LaTeX to produce the overhead slides for my adjunct class. I seem to have enormous problems all along the path, can anyone help me? Can you be a bit more specific about the problems that you encountered? I recommend the package seminar to make overhead slides with LaTeX. Greetings, Paul Huygen
Re: Xemacs and Column edits
rathon [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Can Xemacs do Column editing ? At least you can kil and yank entire columns, so that you can swap them Try: 1) mark the left upper corner of the column (Move point to this spot and press C-x @) 2) move point to the lower right corner of the column and press C-x r k (from Rectangle Kill) 3) move point to the spot where the upper left corner of the moved column is going to be. 4) press C-x r y (Rectangle Yank) You can make multiple copies of the column by multiply executing C-x r y. If C-x r k and C-x r y don't work, try M-x kill-rectangle resp. M-x yank-rectangle. Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: Xemacs and Column edits
rathon [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Can Xemacs do Column editing ? At least you can kil and yank entire columns, so that you can swap them Try: 1) mark the left upper corner of the column (Move point to this spot and press C-x @) 2) move point to the lower right corner of the column and press C-x r k (from Rectangle Kill) 3) move point to the spot where the upper left corner of the moved column is going to be. 4) press C-x r y (Rectangle Yank) You can make multiple copies of the column by multiply executing C-x r y. If C-x r k and C-x r y don't work, try M-x kill-rectangle resp. M-x yank-rectangle. Regards, Paul Huygen
Re: Compressed epsfigures (LaTeX)
J. Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to store postscript images (ps,eps) in compressed form and have them decompressed for use during my LaTeX run. Use the graphics or the graphicx package. 1) Suppose you have a postscript picture stored in picture.ps 2) Create a file picture.ps.bb that contains a copy the bounding box statement from picture.ps (i.e. one of the first few lines in picture.ps that starts with %%BoundingBox and that contains four figures. 3) Compress picture.ps with the command gzip picture.ps. This results in a file picture.ps.gz 4) Make LaTeX file e.g. \documentclass{article} \usepackage{graphicx} \begin{document} \begin{center} \includegraphics[width=10cm]{picture.ps.gz} \end{center} \end{document} 5) dvips takes care for the uncompression. Most other device drivers support the graphicx package too. The graphicx package is very well documented in the book The LaTeX Companion by Goossens, Rahtz and Mittelbach, ISBN 0-201-85469-4 PS Just as an accademic question, can the same thing be done with the LaTeX (.tex) files also? I am shure this can be done using a shell script. Paul Huygen
Re: Support
Romilson Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file .. If you don't need this file, you can throw it away. If ther is useful material in the file, try the command tar -xzf Base1_3.tgz to unpack this file. and more .. Debian linux have not X windows system ? Look in /debian/hamm/main/binary-i386/x11 of the debian distribution Regards, Paul Huygen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: HP III and Postscript
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [An acquired HP Laserjet III] came with a PacificPage P.E Postscript cartridge. Anyone have experience with something like this? Yes, I used it until a year ago. It worked neat, but very slow. Ghostscript in your Linux box is much faster. On the other hand, the Pacific board allows you to use the real Postscript fonts. If I remember well (I am not quite sure), your printer is going to need 4 Mb of memory I don't have any docs for any of these products, but I'm guessing I should be able to insert the cartridge and feed postscript direct to the printer. Yes, that should work. You can switch from Postscript to PCL using the keyboard on the printer, or via an escape sequence. Unfortunately I don't have the details available for you. Moreover, it did not allways work well for me. If I needed PCL then I removed the cartridge (printer off, cartridge out, printer on) Success, Paul Huygen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modems
Tom Zelazny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Please advise how I can get my modem set up(com2irq3) 1) Look at the Serial howto. Although this howto is no longer maintained, it contains a good description of the setserial command that you need. 2) Look at man setserial 3) I think you need to give the following command: /sbin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 irq 3# my serial mouse 4) I think In Debian you have to put this setserial command in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial 5) The boot procedure is described in de TeX-info that can be seen via Emacs help browse manuals I hope this helps a bit. Paul Huygen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century
Marcus Brinkmann wrote (in a message that I lost): In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:05:59 +0200. Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating! howard hughes 351237 4.09 vehbi koc 350473 4.08 steve jobs 336439 3.92 murat arslan 205791 2.40 and asked to vote for Linux Thorvalds. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded: Voting for Linus Tolrvalds is not a good idea. The man is not a Titan, in any sense of the word... even less than Bill Gates. I agree. Moreover, I think the man of the century list is a silly one, with its emphasis on captains of industry. I think that for instance scientists like Niels Bohr and Albert Einstein or Watson Crick, who founded the knowledge on which our technology is based, should rather deserve a place on this list. Without quantum mechanics there would be no micro-electronics, and thus no microsoft and no Linux. One could even reason that people like Hitler or Stalin, horrible as they are, could be nominated as man of the year, because they caused the political structure and the power structure of the world to be as it is now (post-cold-war). Concerning Linus Torvalds I would like to make another remark: He certainly is an outstanding person, having created the Linux kernel and devoting his energy into the successfull consistent development of Linux itself. On the other hand, one could reason that Linux is there because the Free Software Foundation was there with GNU. The Linux Kernel is only one (OK, vital) part of the complex system that Linux is. I think that, if the Free Software Foundation did not exist when Linus developed the Linux kernel, Linux itself would not have come into existence. Therefore, if I had to vote for the most important person concerning Linux, it would be possible that I would rather vote for Richard Stallman. Paul Huygen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sgml authoring
Richard Sevenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does debian include any sgml authoring tools as an alternative to the brute force write-it-tags-and-all-with-an-editor approach? Any hints would be appreciated. ^^^ OK, my 2ct: I understood that HTML is a subset of SGML. If you can live with HTML, and know how to use LaTeX, then you can use LaTeX2HTML. I recently used it because I had to make HTML pages, and I am very enthousiastic about it (until recently I knew virtually nothing about HTML, but a lot about LaTeX. Now I still do not know much about HTML, but that does not matter for LaTeX2HTML). Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing with an old tractor
Johan Wilhelm Kluwer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to print DVI files? The printer I dispose of is an old Citizen dot-matrix,[..] I'm confident that [using Ghostscript] would be *very slow indeed*. I think so. I used to have a dot-matrix, and it could take up to 10 minute to print a page. If you only want to print draft, you may consider using dvi2tty. This program translates the dvi file into plain, neatly formatted, ascii. Regards, Paul Huygen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'LaTeX' mode in xemacs
Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I edit a LaTeX file on this RedHat machine with xemacs, I get a LaTeX menu when I right-click. Also, xemacs has 'command' and 'LaTeX' pull-down menus in this situation. On my hamm machine [..], I get no such menu when editing a LaTeX file. How do I go about changing this? The features that you refer to are supplied by the auctex package. It is a good idea to install that package. Regards, Paul Huygen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Hamm LaTeX: regmar.sty?
Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to set my margins to normal US default ones; I used to do this with regmar.sty in previous/other versions of latex. How do I do this in tetex -- I can't find regmar.sty anywhere ... Nearly everything for TeX can be found at the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network (CTAN). Look in www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/ctan. This site contains a Search Engine for CTAN. It gives two locations in CTAN where you can find regmar. Paul Huygen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do I find out what version of ebian is on a machine?
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about upgrading to libc6: After it [Craig's fine upgrade script] has run, it is still up to you to run dselect and upgrade the rest of the system. this is not an option - once you start upgrading to hamm, you really have to do a complete upgrade...there are too many incompatibilities between libc5 based bo (and rex) and the new libc6 based hamm. not completing the upgrade once you've started it will be a lot more trouble and a lot more work than just going ahead and doing it. [..] if you've never done an upgrade to hamm before, set aside at least a day. You make me startle! I had the impression that one could slowly upgrade, starting with your script. Because I would like to run wine and dosemu, and I want to use my IDE CD-rewriteble, all of which are not or not well supported in the bo version, I decided to upgrade to libc6, expecting that I could later on, when I have time, pick up and install other debian packages that I seem to need. I ran your script and afterwards my computer seems to run as fine as it did before. What is the kind of trouble that I can expect if I only run your upgrade script without further upgrading? Regards, Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help: Install packages
H.He [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [a specific] CD put *.deb at /bo/binary-a. It seems hard for dselect to accept other file structure. My version of dselect asks, after I pointed it to my CDROM: Distribution top level ? [none] If I answer none, then it asks where the distribution top level is. I think it is bo/binary-a for you. Then it asks: Enter _contrib_ binary dir. [/contrib] Enter there the dir where the contrib deb files are. Regards, Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Free PageMaker-style program?
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about emaulation of pagemaker): Lyx, as far as I know, isn't a page layout program, it's a word processor. Have the developers added page layout features? I can't imagine trying to emulate PageMaker-like features from within the constraints of LaTeX. As far as I know, TeX has a so-called output routine, that works each time TeX has eaten enough text to fill a new page. This output routine controls the layout of the page, and if I am well informed, the output routine is (like the rest of TeX) very powerfull and flexiable. Therefore, I think it would be possible to generate a page layout program based on TeX (like Lyx is based on TeX). Regards, Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Memory and printing
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote that Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do almost everything with LaTeX via Postscript (Ghostscript). When I bought an HP LJ5 printer with 1 Mb of memory I soon discovered that that amount of memory was utterly insufficient for even simple text pages. So I added 4 Mb of memory (to a total of 5 Mb), and since then I have never had any problem, even with the most complicated graphics. and then Hamish asked: Is that a straight LaserJet 5? Like Ben I have the 5L and have never run out of memory printing (at 300dpi), either direct PCL stuff from Windows or conversions from ghostscript. Yes, it is a straight LaserJet 5L. However, I find 600dpi much more beautiful than 300dpi. Therefore I use the printer at 600dpi, which costs app. 4 times as memory as 300dpi does. Furthermore, I presume that at least Windows uses the fonts that are built into the printer which is economical. Standard LaTeX however, uploads it own fonts to the printer and this adds to the memory consumption of course. Regards, Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Memory and printing
G. Kapetanios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean I will not be able to print my files which are larger than 1 Mb? Or doesn't it matter as long as my computer memory is large enough ? Any hint will be appreciated. I do almost everything with LaTeX via Postscript (Ghostscript). When I bought an HP LJ5 printer with 1 Mb of memory I soon discovered that that amount of memory was utterly insufficient for even simple text pages. So I added 4 Mb of memory (to a total of 5 Mb), and since then I have never had any problem, even with the most complicated graphics. Regard, Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Taking diff of two directories recursively?
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Sam Ockman wrote: I need to take the diff of two directories recursively, but am not just interested in what files are different...I'm also interested in if the dates of the files are different, the uids, the gids, and the permissions. Anyone know of a program to tell me all of this? I believe that MC (Midnight Commander) has this functionality Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Latex style files
On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Bill Moran wrote: I have installed some latex style files in /usr/local/lib/texmf/ Can anyone tell me how to tell latex to look there for them? TeTeX uses the kpathsea mechanism to look for files. This system can be configured or changed by editing /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf, which is self-explaining. Like you did, I put style files in /usr/local/lib/texmf, and changed in /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf the line TEXMFL= $TEXMF/local into: TEXMFL= /usr/local/texmf:$TEXMF/local Good Luck Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
LaTeX sources. was: Re: Latex style files
David B. Teague writes: Where did you find the style files? I didn't see them on Sunsite. I'd like to have the Linux style files. Would you tell me a source? For TeX and friends there exists the Comprehensive TeX Archive Netwok (CTAN), an archive that contains virtually everything about TeX/LaTeX etc. It is mirrored all over the world. You can search items in CTAN using adres: http://www.ora.com/homepages/CTAN-Web/search.html. CTAN sites are a.o: ftp.shsu.edu /tex-archive/help/TeX-index in the US ftp.uni-stuttgart.de /soft/tex/help/TeX-index in Germany ftp.tex.ac.uk /pub/archive/help/TeX-index in UK and ftp.cs.ruu.nl /pub/TEX/DOC/TeX-index.gz in the Netherlands (The exact directory structures may be obsolete. I got them from a book.) Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDR drive replacement.
Danny ter Haar wrote: This week we purchased the CDR400T (6x4) from Yamaha. So far we have been unable to get xcdroast to work with it. I am sorry for Danny. However, it is consistent with the Hardware Compatibility Howto that lists the equipment that is known to work or not to work with Linux. The CDR400T is listed in the table of CDR's known NOT to work. There seems to be some flaw in the CDR400 that is not present in the other Yamaha CDR's. If I consider buying equipment like a CDR or a page scanner, I always consult theHardware Compatibility Howto to prevent unpleasant surprise like Danny has got. Paul Huygen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .