RE: With newer chipsets, is ECC memory slower ? Worth the penalty ?

[Paul McHale]

Bob,

> Having said all of that I will say that all of my servers which run
> 24/7 all have ECC memory in them and they are very reliable.  The disk
> drive is the least reliable part for me and I use RAID to offset that.
> ECC is barely more expensive than non-ECC.  I always look for ECC when

I do have one possibly dumb question.  The chipset is 875P which supports
dual channel 400MHz DDR.  So far so good.  Intel claims the fastest
configuration is 4 DIMMs of all double sided.  This amounts to PC3200.  I
found a site which offers PC3500 (CL=2.5 vs CL=3).  Here is the link:

http://www.oempcworld.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=66527%7C1218117&PRID=1314991

It also claims this is DDR 433MHz.  Hence my confusion.  To perform at
PC3500, is the change in CAS latency enough or must I overclock to 433MHz.
If overclocking is required (which the BIOS doesn't support) then the CL of
2.5 would perform at CL rate of 3.  Is the above any faster than:

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Dell%2BPowerEdg
e&mfr=Dell&cat=RAM&model=PowerEdge+400SC&submit=Go

I think the answer is yes, but I would appreciate the sanity check.

Many thanks,

Paul


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RE: With newer chipsets, is ECC memory slower ? Worth the penalty ?

[Paul McHale]

Hi Bob,

> Negative.  My own memory test benchmarks using a (cough) windows based
> test program shows only a 1%-2% speed degradation.  Of course that
> depends upon the chipset used.  But I wouldn't expect anything above
> 5% in the worst case for anything reasonable.



Thanks for the info.  It sounds like I would be crazy to not use ECC memory.
I tend to leave the PC running 24/7.  That alone might make the ECC worth
while.

Thanks,
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With newer chipsets, is ECC memory slower ? Worth the penalty ?

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I have always heard ECC memory is more reliable, but there is a performance
penalty.  Crucial.com estimates the penalty to be 10% to 15%.  That's a lot.
There are some statements to the contrary with newer chipsets.  I have the
875P chipset and have no idea what the performance difference is.  Any
recommendations or empirical performance data ?

BTW.  The system is a DELL 3.2GHz server with no OS.  I saw it on
thedailydeals.com for $500.  With no OS, maybe others are interested.  Dell
offers it every other month.

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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OT: MS C++.net vs Borland Builder (with Linux support in future)

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I have to decide between Borland C++ builder and MS.NET for a relatively
simple windows GUI development.  Given there are quite a few very
experienced developers here, I thought some of you may have preferences.

I am new to C++ and builder looks much simpler to develop for.  Any
recommendations welcome.  One strong motivation for Borland builder is the
impending Linux version.  Is this real?  Will it actually be cross platform
compatible?

Many thanks,

Paul


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RE: mail server

[Paul McHale]

Paul,

> I would like to put a REALLY small email server up at work using Debian
> ( I have a RH box I've put together but I like ... the feel of this list

I'm probably going to be the lone voice here.  I prefer sendmail for one
reason.  There is an incredible amount of information out there.  Pick up
almost any unix administrator book and it will walk you through setting up
sendmail for a simple configuration.

The new sendmail is much easier to configure due to M4 macro support.
Whatever you do, don't directly edit the cryptic .cf file.  Drop any book
that suggest you do so.  The new M4 macros future proof you configuration.

The only problem I had during configuration was with procmail.  The que
would back up with deferred messages.  I had to uninstall procmail then
sendmail.  When reinstalling sendmail, it would update procmail.  Otherwise,
procmail would get lost for some reason.

Should you go the sendmail route, check out a local bookstore.  Most have
many books with basic sendmail configuration.  There is also a great
newsgroup comp.mail.sendmail.

Some books I found that were good:

Unix System administrators handbook 0-13-020601-6
Linux System Administrators handbook 0-201-71934-7
Setting up a Linux server 1-57610-569-5


Cheers,

Paul

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OT: PVR - Wouldn't this be cool

[Paul McHale]

I suspect Tivo doesn't make a lot of money from the direct sale.  Probably
make more money from monthly subscription.  If this is true, it would be
awesome if they started a Tivo linux distribution.

Here is the dream.  You take your old PC.  Add a supported MPEG
encoder/decoder card such as wintv (USB IR remote option is $19).  Make sure
network card or modem is on supported list.  Drop Tivo Linux distro in CD
drive and watch it work.  Corel Linux can install in four questions.  This
would install with no questions.  Automatically formatting all drives and
using network card or modem for schedule update.  Tivo Unit ID could be
network card OUI.  I would also allow client apps to remotely watch recorded
shows on any networked PC.

For less than $150, a throw away PC could be converted to a Tivo with
unparalleled functionality.  Wouldn't this make some sense for Tivo to
pursue.  BTW.  They would also release project to open source community
allowing support from forums similar to this.

I know, just a dream.  To much eggnog :)

Happy Holidays,

Paul



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RE: Gunsamerica pictures can no longer be viewed

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The 
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RE: Debian TVIO like PVR

[Paul McHale]

> According to Tom's Hardware, realtime MPEG4 encoding requires
> about a 600mhz
> P3.

Does this assume the encoding is all done in software?  I would guess a
hardware assisted MPEG encoder would require much less.  But I have NO idea
about this.  I am just curious.

I know the Tivo doesn't have much horse power.  They are case in point for a
design which is just fast enough.  They appeared to have spared every
expense.  It is an awesome unit.  Just saying, I don't think they have a
600MHz processor ...  Could be completely wrong.


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RE: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[Paul McHale]

> spin at all. and with the near 2 dozen IBM disk drive failures
> ive had in the past 6 months, im even more for never turning
> off the system.

When I worked PC support contracts at Honeywell, we would always tell people
to leave the CPU (and HD) running.  Electrically, there are a lot of
transients at startup.  With older supplies, it was probably a lot more of
an issue.  Systems that weren't power cycled once a day were almost trouble
free even back then.

I have had systems running 98% around the clock and have very little
hardware trouble.  HDs have the obvious strain of spinning up.  I am not
sure how APM plays in with fatiguing a drive due to regular rotational speed
changes.  These are obviously harder on a drive than running constantly.
How much power is saved would depend on how long the HD was actually
permitted to sleep.  On my server, I don't think it would sleep that much.

Anyway, I choose the same route you have.  Leave them up.  I had
significantly greater trouble when powering up and down.  Improvements in
hardware might make it a wash today.  Just staying with what works.


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OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

[Paul McHale]

Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot.
I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran fine.  In
three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash.

I have rebooted about once every 3 to 4 months (guessing average) after
maintenance.  This was voluntary, not necessary.  I don't run X either
(dedicated server mail/ftp/web).  Anyone have any really long times for X
and non-X systems?

Paul

Question about woody apache package module inclusion

[Paul McHale]

I am not sure how to contact the keeper of the debian apache package.  I
know it ships with a lot of modules.  The developer of mod_frontpage now has
the frontpage extensions in DSO module form which will be released with the
next Mandrake Linux.  Any chance woody's apache package could integrate
this?  The URL is:

http://home.edo.uni-dortmund.de/~chripo/news.asp

It would be awesome to have integrated frontpage support.  Even less reason
for people to use M$ server.  OK, so it's not a complete win because of
Frontpage ...

Thanks,

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RE: DNS/BIND questions

[Paul McHale]

>> - Bind8 or Bind9(testing only i think)?

I run potato stable (8).  Couldn't tell you the difference.

>> - I currently have ONE static IP. If I choose this
>> to be the name server
for all my domains, do I NEED/have-to-have a backup?

How critical are the servers people would be trying to get to?

>> - Does a backup namesever have to have a static IP?

I don't know.

- If not, are there free backup name server services?


Just an idea.  I use www.easydns.com for domain hosting.  I also run a
private DNS server to resolve my private IPs from within my own LAN.
easydns is $19.95 per year.  For me it's a bargain.  Other people have
mentioned other services.  Easy DNS is web configurable, offers backup mail
storage if you take your mailserver offline and has 3 backup servers for my
domain.

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RE: 2 doubts

[Paul McHale]

> Dear members ,
>   I have 2 doubts :
> 1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional  Win-Lin 
> dual-boot machine ?
> 2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or 
> the Win 2K/Win NT
> boot loader
> to MBR ?

I think the answer to both questions is 

c:\> fdisk /mbr

Then install OS as usual.

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RE: Updated packages in potato?

[Paul McHale]

> My sources.list points at stable plus security. This morning I did an 
> "apt-get update" which transferred new Packages as you see below.
> 
> Get:1 http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Packages [14.5kB]
> Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages [824kB]
> Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages [30.3kB]
> Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages [70.2kB]
> 
> A dist-upgrade wants to upgrade:
> 
> e2fsprogs
> libc6
> libc6-dev
> locales
> 

The report is at:

http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20011105




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RE: Linux RAM drive support/performance

[Paul McHale]

Cory,

> I saw them for $2K for 2 GB which is 3-4x the cost of the memory. I'm not
> sure how the performance would compare versus the virtual
> approach like you
> say--it is a little hard to believe it would justify the cost
> just on that.

I have hunted all over for an actual RAM based drive in this price range.
Any chance you remember where you found this drive?

Thanks,

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RE: Sendmail behind firewall

[Paul McHale]

The original problem was HELO check being compiled into the debian release
of sendmail caused harmless authentication -warning- messages.  I noticed
these after moving my server behind the firewall and used a private IP.  My
server complained when mail was relayed through anyone else stating the IP
was different than the MX record.

I assumed other host were doing the same check with me when a friend at
Ameritech.net couldn't mail to me.  He assured me the messages were going to
his company account and he would try mailing from there.  I thought my
private server IP not matching public MX record was the problem.  I switched
back to public IP and everything was fine.  His "test" messages came
through.

Then another message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed to deliver.  He
said he was trying to send an attachment ...  Surprised at this, I asked him
to send without attachment.  No problem.  He tried to mail attachment to his
yahoo account and then his work account.  Nothing.  Ameritech.net won't
deliver mail that has an attachment as an EXE.  It must be zipped first!

Moved everything back to private IPs and it worked fine.  I also contacted
sendmail who confirmed it should work fine.  To deny delivery based on the
IP check would defeat NAT (or masquerade) firewall implementations.

Per Sendmail's Neil Wickert, it would violate the RFCs to deny the delivery
based on this IP verification.  Issue resolved and sendmail humming!

Paul McHale

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RE: Linux RAM drive support/performance

[Paul McHale]

> If that's not the problem and you just really have an incredibly
> disk-intensive application, you might consider a solid state disk if it's
> really that important. You can buy them with IDE or SCSI
> interface, so they
> look and act like regular hard drives.

This is a very good idea except for cost.  Have you seen the price of solid
state disks?  The cheapest ones I've seen are over $50K.  Do you know of any
cheaper ones?  The new motherboards will probably be able to support more
than 4GB leaving room for a cheap virtual solid state drive...

Thanks,

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test

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Sendmail behind firewall

[Paul McHale]

I have just upgraded from storm linux (slink) to debian stable (potato).
Most things went shockingly well.  There was an occasional oddity.  After
reading through all error messages, I was able to figure most things out.
Kudos to the debian team!

Shortly before upgrading, I put server behind a NAT (like masquerade)
sonicwall firewall.  Things appeared to work fine.  About the time I
upgraded to new sendmail, I started getting mail authentication errors from
external inbound mail.  I then received domain validation errors.  The
result was a lot of deferred mail.  The error reported was the MX record
didn't match the private IP of my server.

What is the best resolution for this?  It would be nice if sendmail could IP
masquerade for authentication purposes by responding with the MX record IP.
I added my domains to my caching DNS server so the LAN could see the local
web sites.  I have read the apache.org FAQ and didn't see a handy solution
which will resolve authentication problems.  My DNS doesn't server my
domains externally.  How do I fake the authentication?  Here is my
customizations to the .mc file:

FEATURE(nocanonify) dnl
FEATURE(accept_unqualified_senders)dnl
FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains)dnl
FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -o /etc/mail/access') dnl

Any ideas for changes/additions ?

I disabled NAT for the temporary solution but want to reduce the
requirements to one static IP.  If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate
it.

Many Thanks,

Paul

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Linux RAM drive support/performance

[Paul McHale]

Does Linux support any RAM drive(s)?  How much faster are these drives over
an attached drive?  Is there a CPU performance penalty?

We would like to replace our mechanical drive with a small (<4GB) RAM drive.
The mechanical drive is getting pounded 24 hours a day.  In addition to
fatigue, the extra performance would be nice.

Is it true the x86 architecture is limited to 32 bit addressing and will
never support more than 4GB of address space?  Trying to see what the
limitation will be.

I know this is a lot of questions.  As always, any help is appreciated.

Regards,

Paul

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Did Stormix go out of business ?

[Paul McHale]

I have tried to reach the company but the number is disconnected.  I thought
they still had product in stores.  Are they still around?

Regards,

Paul


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RE: IDE raid - which is better ? Thanks

[Paul McHale]

Nate (and everybody else),

Thanks much for all the replies.  Very good information.  Nate, please
report the information from the installation and any performance figures you
might have.

Now that I know the 3ware card is hardware raid and has support for linux, I
will definitely go that route.  Again, I appreciate the help.

Paul


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IDE raid - which is better ?

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Hi,

I am putting together a workstation which will have raid.  I found the
following vendors which have ide raid controllers:

www.promise.com  (fastrack100)
www.3ware.com(escalade 3w-6200)

I will be doing raid 0 (striping) strictly for performance.  Does anyone
have experience with these cards or any other cards?  Any
recommendations/comments welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

Martin,

Thanks for the help!  I didn't see the e-mail yet.  I will eventually go to
storm-hail because I want to upgrade to potato and have been impressed with
storm-rain (slink) used on another system.  I am grateful to have this
resolved.

I have uninstalled a few packages to increase the free disk space.  This
resolved the problem.  Is there an easy way to tell what files are taking up
the space?

Paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Bialasinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 3:04 PM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused
>
>
> * "Paul" == Paul McHale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Paul> This is what it was set to.  I changed it to try the suggestion.
> Paul> Unfortunately, it did not improve.  I think I might just
> upgrade to potato.
> Paul> I know this is not the best cure, but I am interested in
> testing the new
> Paul> storm release anyway.
>
> No, this is indeed not the best way.
>
> You got the correct answer already, what's wrong with it?
>
> 
> From: brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused
> To: Debian-User 
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:06:57 -0700
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:39:20PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:
>
> > Sendmail: Rejecting connection on port 25 : min free: 100
>
> You're low on disk space on /var -- sendmail will refuse to accept mail
> until it has a place to put it.
> 
>
> You check your diskspace with "df". sendmail wants at least 100
> (kB). Note that anything above 95% diskspace used is only available to
> root.
>
> Maybe your apt cache is quite big. apt-cache clean will remove the
> files.
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> If I recall, the correct line to be used with Sendmail is
>
> sendmail: all
>
> to allow all users.
>

This is what it was set to.  I changed it to try the suggestion.
Unfortunately, it did not improve.  I think I might just upgrade to potato.
I know this is not the best cure, but I am interested in testing the new
storm release anyway.  Thanks for the help everyone!


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> Strongly recommend you take a look at this rant on problem reporting:

Let's see if I can better address it using the points from a summary you
mentioned.

Point 1: The first aim of a bug report is to let the programmer see the
failure with his own eyes.

This really applies to bug reporting.  I did show what was indicating the
problem.  Namely, telneting to the SMTP port.  Please see previous mail for
syntax used.

Point 2: In case the first aim doesn't succeed, and the programmer can't see
it failing himself, the second aim of a bug report is to describe what went
wrong. Describe everything in detail. State what you saw, and also state
what you expected to see. Write down the error messages, especially if they
have numbers in them.

Did this.

Point 3: When your computer does something unexpected, freeze. Do nothing
until you're calm, and don't do anything that you think might be dangerous.

OK

Point 4: By all means, try to diagnose the fault yourself if you think you
can, but if you do, you should still report the symptoms as well.

Have tried.  Still no clue.

Point 5: Be ready to provide extra information if the programmer needs it.
If he didn't need it, he wouldn't be asking for it. He isn't being
deliberately awkward. Have version numbers at your fingertips, because they
will probably be needed.

Didn't include version number.  It is sendmail 8.9.3 for debian slink.

Point 6: Write clearly. Say what you mean, and make sure it can't be
misinterpreted.
Above all, be precise. Programmers like precision.

I think I was ...

> Anything regarding sendmail or port 25 in your system logs?

Syslog had the following line.

Oct 12 01:10:22 debian tcplogd: smtp connection attempt from localhost
[127.0.0.1]

No other mention.

> It ***helps*** to tell us everything relevant about a situation,
> including whether or not you have command-line access to the system in
> question.   We can't see your system or guess your network configuration
> by telepathy.

As shown in the syntax, I am running telnet from the command line.  As far
as network configuration, I am not sure what information would be important
here.  I am running the telnet from the command line of the server.  I can
ping out and have functionality in ftp.  I see the same error when using
localhost.  Can you be specific when you say network configuration?



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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> Have you tried typing
> 
>   telnet 127.0.0.1 25
> 
> ? Maybe the IP is wrong?

Another good idea!  Unfortunately, it gave the same results.


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> Just a wild guess, but:  are you actually typing "IP_NUM" or are you
> substituting a real IP number?
>
> Some servers are configured to refuse telnet connections.  (Telnet

I am actually putting the IP number in :)  I can telnet to the standard
telnet port just fine.  From another machine, that is.  Can telnet be
blocked to certain ports?  PS indicates sendmail is refusing connections
which is probably a bad sign.  I am not sure how to fix it...


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> The server IP_NUM isn't running SMTP ?
> There is a firewall between your host and IP_NUM ?
> You're not connected to the same network ?

> The host is refusing your connection.  It's either IP filtered, denied
> through /etc/hosts.allow or equivalent for the system, or there is no
> SMTP server running.

Additional information in response.  When I do the telnet, it is from the
machine running the mailserver so networking and firewalls shouldn't
interfere.  I can ping out from the machine.  PS shows sendmail is running
with the following message:

Sendmail: Rejecting connection on port 25 : min free: 100

hosts.allow has "sendmail: all".  IP filtering I'm not sure about.


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> > When I type:
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> >
> >telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused
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> The host is refusing your connection.  It's either IP filtered, denied
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Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

When I type:

   telnet IP_NUM 25

I get:

   telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused

Any ideas ?

Regards,

Paul


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SMP and potato

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I seem to remember linux not having very robust SMP support.  I had heard it
was improving.  Does anyone know what the state of it is?  Is potato's SMP
better than slink?  I would think it is a function of the kernel, not the
distro, but I could be wrong.


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Quake II server with debian

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I am getting speakeasy DSL soon (I Hope).  They offer $10/mo rebate if you
send them server logs indicating your server has speakeasy in the name.

My plan is to use a dual PII-333 system as my mail/ftp/web server and run
QII on it in dedicated server mode.  I have seen QII/Linux in Microcenter
for $50.

Has anyone tried this?  Are there any issues with QII in dedicated server
mode (text based/command line) and debian?  Do you think a dual
PII-333/128MB would be enough?  The mail server is lightly loaded (200
messages/day or 3-4MB/day) with the ftp/web extremely lightly loaded.

Any input or tips are appreciated.  I figure I am going to run a server
anyway.  I might as well get a $10/mo rebate for adding a game to the
server.  Just so long as QII doesn't bring the server to a crawl.

If it helps, I will be running Storm/Hail (potato).

Many thanks,

Paul


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RE: Debian or Stormix

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> Now, on the other hand...if people simply do not care to learn
> the sytem and
> want to be 'up-and-running quick' then RH and their tools are good.

This worked for me to a point.  Redhat was up and running quickly, but then
fell apart when something wouldn't work from the GUI based admin tools.
Then the workload went up dramatically to figure out where the problem was.

Debian has a steeper learning curve but then flattens out appreciably.  If
something is configurable, it can usually be tracked down to a configuration
file.  Don't get me wrong.  This fact has in no way impaired my ability to
ask dumb questions :)  It just makes it much easier to continue on.  With
Redhat, if the GUI didn't do it, I was stuck until I traced it down.

Because of this, I won't use a GUI unless it reports what files it modifies
and then makes comments in the files.  Come to think of it, that log would
make an awesome learning tool.  Does Redhat do this???





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RE: Debian VS. Red Hat

[Paul McHale]

> > and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian)
> > does red-hat have anything comparable?
>
> The big difference, AFAIK, is that Debian store a lot more packages.
> With Redhat, you can get the base install (that comes with the CD),
> but for the rest, you would have to go for third-party sources.
>

The largest difference I know of is the dependency resolution.  Maybe Redhat
will do this as well.  It's pretty neat when I request a package and end up
getting 3 dependant packages without having to individually request them.
The auto download by itself is very nice.

Another major difference between Redhat and Debian is this list.  There are
some very sharp cookies here who don't mind hanging around even though they
end up answering a lot more questions than they ask.  I don't know if Redhat
has anything comparable.

BTW.  It's remarkable how similar in functionality windows update is to
debian's apt-get.  It is more twinkified (which isn't always bad ...) but
functionally very similar.  It is, of course, limited to Microsoft products.
If they were smart, they offer developers support for their packages at the
microsoft site.  ($$$).  Debian already offers this.  I think this sort of
updating will quickly become as expected as products as shipping on CD.  At
least I hope it does!

OK, Rambling over!

RE: Debian vs. Red Hat

[Paul McHale]

Wayne,

> It's to anyone,  I've mainly used Debian, because of it's
> stability, but our
> ISP has a contractor who's opinion is   "Red Hat's the best,
> thats why they
> are so popular."  I want to dipute this, but I need more than just my own

It is my experience most people feel whatever they are familiar with is the
best for situation.  I don't think I know *that* much about debian.  I do
know .deb is worlds better than .rpm.  When it comes to debian, you are
talking to the choir.

You ISP just has familiarity with red Hat.  This may make it a better
solution for them.  I am biased towards debian, but from an ISP (sysadmin)
standpoint debian is great at installing/maintaining packages.

In my opinion debian could be unfamiliar territory as it doesn't readily
offer graphical configuration utilities like RedHat.  I find these to be
more of a hindrance.  They lead to the windows mentality of "What just
happened?  I don't know either but is works now!".

The install of debian was (is?) pretty painful.  Compared to redhat, it is
monumental for the uninitiated.  I recommend Storm or Corel for the
installation challenged.  I think their install easily rivals Redhat.  It
can't get much easier than Corel.  Storm is not far behind.  Both
(especially Storm) offer apt-get (auto install and maintenance of packages)
with a high degree of debian compatibility.

There are curious parts of debian.  Debian has a religious issues with
/usr/local.  Some packages really want to be there (I.e. apache).  This can
easily be worked around.  You just have to watch when you read documentation
which assumes the software was installed in the /usr/local directory.  Some
publicly available scripts must be modified as well.  All in all, very
workable.  Just a curious departure.

For what it's worth, I have some friends who use redhat.  When it comes to
accomplishing tasks such as setting up a mail server, I can run circles
around them.  Debian is the finest server I have seen with support (this
list server) that would make Gates blush.  Recently, I installed sendmail.
I was up and running in less time than it would have taken me to find and
download the .rpm for Redhat.

Just my biased two cents.

Do keep in mind, I administer my own machines for my own consulting
business.  If I didn't find debian to be better, it would be out of here
yesterday.  I don't get paid for administration of the servers.  They are
expected utilities for a technical company such as mine.  I have tried
Redhat, Mandrake and Slackware.  Debian is the hands down winner for me.  It
simply costs less to operate.

Ironically, I was very happy with NT server.  It was stable enough for my
needs.  I couldn't get Frontpage server extensions to work properly under
IIS with multiple domains.  It started costing me money to play with it.  I
always had a debian mail server.  I installed Apache/frontpage and haven't
looked back.  Sad that frontpage works better under apache than IIS.  Go
figure.

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TCP/IP Receive Window

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I just had DSL installed and was told to adjust the DefaultReceiveWindow in
the windows registry.  This dramatically improved performance.  To be clear,
my understanding of the setting is this.  It defines the amount of data
which can be sent before an ACK must be received.

The logic is the overhead of ACKs becomes tremendous as the link speeds up.
I believe the default is 8KB.  That is to say only 8KB can be sent before an
ACK must be received.  With a slow link, this worked great.  Missing ACK -
retransmit only 8KB.  With faster links, one is constantly waiting for ACKs.

My question regards the setting for Linux.  What is the default size?  Where
is it defined?  Please keep in mind, latency is the critical factor here.
When an ACK takes 200ms to be received, it is very detrimental to wait for
ACKs.  Even fast lines often suffer this latency.  Of course, Bandwidth and
Latency are separate issues.  Bandwidth is reduced as a function of latency
due to handshaking nature of the protocol.  This also implies LANs would
suffer as much as the latency should be very low.

Side Issue:  This is what led to dramatic performance increases when sliding
window protocols such as zmodem emerged.  I wonder if TCP/IP uses any
sliding window technology.  Probably not since the parameters of the
exchange are not rigidly defined as in zmodem.  I don't believe it does use
sliding window but would love to hear if it does or will.




Regards,

Paul




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Heard there was a problem with potato first release

[Paul McHale]

I am going to a computer show this weekend and would like to buy the CDs for
potato.  I heard the initial images were flawed.  What is the old/new
release numbers so I know what to ask for?
paul


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Storm vs Slink syslog problem

[Paul McHale]

I have an older slink system which was replaced by a new storm system.  I
copied the /etc/syslog.conf file from slink to storm.  My router logs to
both IPs.  Slink works fine but storm doesn't log any messages.  Directory
permissions are the same.  Here is the line in my /etc/syslog.conf

local7.*-/var/log/router/router.log

Does any know if storm has a modified syslog?  Other changes made for
Sendmail logging work fine.


Thanks in advance,

Paul

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Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato

[Paul McHale]

Has anyone done this yet?  Could you give details including sources.list
lines used?  I want to run potato due to increased apps support.  I might
just wait for Storm to release a new distro based on potato.

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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RE: ABIT BP6 & UDMA-66: Support for Debian Linux

[Paul McHale]

I know this isn't helpful, but here is some additional information.  I have
a P233 with a non-UDMA66 45GB hard drive.  I get about 12MB/s.  I question
the utility of the hdparm performance.  This doesn't appear to be random
reads.  Either way, I get much better performance with Storm (based on
debian) using 2.2.16 kernel.  Maybe debian has an older kernel?

paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: wilson [mailto:wilson]On Behalf Of Wilson Yau
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:55 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: ABIT BP6 & UDMA-66: Support for Debian Linux
>
>
> Hi, everyone!
>
> My system is Abit BP6 w/Dual Celeron 500MHz CPUs & 128MB PC-100 SDRAM on
> board.  One 18GB IBM UDMA-66 7200rpm HDD (master) & One 20GB IBM UDMA-66
> 7200rpm HDD (Slave) connected to the first ATA-66 channel.
>
> I frist installed the Gentus Linux (Abit's RedHat-based distribution)
> from the CD come with the main board, and both SMP and UDMA-66
> functioned at after the first boot.  (It's almost a painless
> installation - very smooth indeed.)  Execute "hdparm -t /dev/hde6" gave
> a benchmark of something like 20MB per sec (very impressive! I have
> another system running dual PIII-600 Coppermine with two 9GB SCSI HDD
> which gave a figure something like 18MB/sec)
>
> Then, I changed my mind to remove Gentus and install Debian Potato.  By
> choosing installation from floppies, I downloaded all the required image
> including the UDMA-66 patch from
>
> ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.15
-2000-06-07/images-1.44/udma66/

Installation was fine (the rescue disk could detect the ATA-66 HDD - no
need to swop them to ATA-33 channel during installation).  SMP was not
ready yet. Kernel had to be recompiled.  No Problem!

However, when I did "hdparm -t /dev/hde6" & "hdparm -t /dev/hdf1", this
time it gave a figure between 2 to 3 MB per sec.  Even slower than a
ATA-33 5400rpm HDD in a single PII-266 64MB RAM system.

Q.1/ Can anyone explain to me this phenomenon?

Q.2/ How to optimize my system performance (esp the UDMA-66 HDD) with
Debian Linux?

Many thanks for your help!

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RE: frontpage extensions for apache

[Paul McHale]

> Can anyone offer omse info on adding frontpage extensions to

The easiest way I found was using mod_frontpage (www.freshmeat.net) with
apache 1.3.12.  The good news is the mod_frontpage is pretty much cookie
cutter.  The problem is 1.3.12 requires you to download the latest apache
source and compile (www.apache.org).  This worked very well for me, if you
are willing to "manually" install.

paul


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> To: Debian-User
> Subject: frontpage extensions for apache
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> Can anyone offer omse info on adding frontpage extensions to
> apache whch has
> been installed from the package?
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RE: apache virtual hosts

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> What ways are there to create virtual hosts in apache? Is it _necessary_

The easiest way is name virtual hosting.  This requires only one IP address
for all of your virtual hosts.  This will not work with some very old
browsers.  I wouldn't worry about it.  Netscape and IE both work fine with
it.  Note that I downloaded apache and compiled it myself.  That is why the
directory is /usr/local.  Debian won't put stuff there, so make sure you
change the example below for your needs.  In the httpd.conf file, this stuff
starts at or below line 900.  An example of my httpd.conf file:

 start of example

NameVirtualHost 209.251.21.158


ServerName www.desinc.com
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /usr/local/apache/htdocs/www.desinc.com
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm
ErrorLog /usr/local/apache/htdocs/www.desinc.com/logs/error_log
TransferLog /usr/local/apache/htdocs/www.desinc.com/logs/access_log



ServerName www.doubleesolutions.com
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /usr/local/apache/htdocs/www.doubleesolutions.com
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm
ErrorLog
/usr/local/apache/htdocs/www.doubleesolutions.com/logs/error_log
TransferLog
/usr/local/apache/htdocs/www.doubleesolutions.com/logs/access_log


 end of example

Good luck,

paul

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Does the VIA chipset work with Linux?

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I am interested in replacing my motherboard, but the current replacement
available is based on the VIA chipset.  Does anyone have any experience with
this chipset?

paul


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RE: easy configue www server package

[Paul McHale]

The easiest for me was to download the source for apache 1.3.12 from
www.apache.org.  Then get mod_frontpage from www.freshmeat.net to get
Frontpage 2000 support.  If you are looking for easy, this is pretty
straight forward.  You can do regular publish from Frontpage rather than
FTP.  There are other ways, but this one worked for me.

I also recommend Maximum Linux.  This new bi-monthly magazine has a whole
section dedicated to setting up an apache server.

paul


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> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 12:34 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: easy configue www server package
>
>
> I want to setup intranet server for a small office,
> which easy configue is recommand?
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RE: mod_frontpage and original Debian Apache src

[Paul McHale]

Sven,

> I need a Apache webserver with Frontpage Server Extensions.
> To get this binary I downloaded the FP Server Extensions from the web and
> untarred the file.

I built the mod_frontpage as well.  Unfortunately, I don't recognize the
problems you describe.  I downloaded the apache source and built it rather
than go through debian package manager(s).  I recommend trying this.  There
are a few differences.  Make sure debian source is apache version 1.3.12.
Mod_frontpage requires this.

The other difference is directory location.  Debian has chosen to not use
/usr/local.  Apache defaults to /usr/local/apache.  I would make sure you
have apache version 1.3.12.  That is most likely it.  Your output was:

> [Thu May 25 13:03:59 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU

Once you get the new version and follow the instructions religously,
frontpage should come right up.  Debian repository is usually full of very
stable stuff, if not a little dated.  The correct apache source can be found
at:

http://www.apache.org/dist/apache_1.3.12.tar.gz



paul


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RE: Installing an earlier kernel?

[Paul McHale]

> point to 2.2.12 tings., but /proc/version still says 2.2.15 is
> running. Huh? What'd I miss.

After rearranging anything with the kernel, you must run lilo again.  Just
type "lilo" as root.  This may not fix it, but it probably will.  I
recommend "adding" the second kernel.  Edit the /etc/lilo.conf file.  It is
pretty straight forward and will allow you to specify multiple kernels.  My
lilo.conf has:

image=/kernel-2.2.15
   label="2.2.15"
   read-only

image=/kernel-2.2.14
   label="2.2.14"
   read-only

image=/vmlinuz
   label="2.2.13"
   read-only

I renamed to /usr/src/v2.2.15/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to kernel-2.2.15 and
copied to /.  I should move it to /boot, but it is harmless where it is.
/vmlinuz is still a link to the original kernel in the /boot directory.
Keep in mind the first option will load by default if no other option is
specified within the time period during boot.

This only takes  a few minutes and works pretty well if you are too chicken
(like I am) to give up the old kernel.

paul

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RE: X setup with SiS 6236

[Paul McHale]

> > Has anyone had success parametrising X with an SiS 6236 AGP? I

I doubt it is helpful, but I have the SiS 6326 (PCI) running under Storm.
Let me know if you want some of the configuration files and I will send
them.

BTW> Storm did not recognize it in the first step of the installation.
There is a second step where you can manually select your video card.  The
PCI version was listed.  I don't remember if the AGP version was.  The
latest storm release of 104 is supposed to be a lot better.  I installed 101
and updated.

paul


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RE: DSL and DEBIAN

[Paul McHale]

DSL is 
typically connected to you computers via network.  The protocol is TCP/IP 
which is supported by all Linux, Unix and Windows distributions.  You 
should have no problem.  You just have to configure you computers for IP, 
Netmask and Gateway.  The gateway IP will be the IP of you DSL 
router.
 
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  -Original Message-From: Ben Babich 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:24 
  AMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: DSL and 
  DEBIAN
  Hi, 
  does anyone know if there is support for dsl 
  within debian or redhat?
   
  If not, will it be in the plan for the next 
  release?
   
  Regards,
   
  Ben

RE: sendmail/aliases.db error

[Paul McHale]

I use the command:

makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access

to generate the access.db file.  This might work for aliases as well.



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> -Original Message-
> From: Gary D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 3:56 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: sendmail/aliases.db error
> 
> 
> 
> Hey, everytime I try run sendmail, I get this error ->
> 
> May 17 15:39:22 skynet sendmail[8272]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
> Cannot open hash database /etc/aliases.db: Invalid argument
> 
> 
> If tried removing aliases.db, aliases, putting in new ones, simpler ones,
> leaving them blank.  I tried running makedb, tried newalaises, always get
> the same error --
> 
> newaliases gives this error
> Cannot open hash database /etc/aliases.db: Invalid argument
> WARNING: cannot open alias database /etc/aliases
> Cannot create database for alias file /etc/aliases
> 
> 
> please help
> -gary
> 
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Is Storm based on potato or slink ?

[Paul McHale]

I installed stormix which is based on 2.2.13 kernel.  I assumed this storm
release was based on potato due to the kernel version.  When I tried to
install logrotate (which is part of the potato release) I get the following
message:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  logrotate: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1) but 2.0.7.19981211-storm.1 is installed
 Depends: libpopt0 but it is not installable
 Depends: cron (>= 3.0pl1-53) but 3.0pl1-50.2 is installed
 Depends: base-passwd (>= 2.0.3.4) but 2.0.3.3 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

When I do apt-get dist-upgrade, it shows I am up to date.  Does anyone have
experience with Storm?  Is it potato or slink?

Their website claims the latest release of storm is based on Debian 2.1r5.
I thought this was slink, but am not sure how/why they use the latest
kernel.  Maybe they just swapped out hte kernel ...

paul

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How to change log rotation schedule

[Paul McHale]

I would like for /var/log/mail.* to rotate daily instead of weekly.  When I
use syslogd-listfiles, it verifies mail.* is configured to rotate weekly.  I
checked the syslogd script in /etc/cron.daily and /etc/cron.weekly.  They
are all running as the they should calling savelog according to
configuration.

How do I change configuration to rotate mail.* daily?  If there is a
configuration file, I can't find the rascal anywhere.  A book mentioned
/etc/logrotate.d, but I think this only applies to Caldera.  I would assume
debian has a similar file ...


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RE: pop3 server w/ virtual domains

[Paul McHale]

Mario,

I haven't looked at courier-imap, but i should support multiple domains.  In
fact, any pop3 server should be oblivious to the domain.  It simply allows
user access to their email account.  This is independent of the domain.  At
least as far as I know ...

paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: Mario Olimpio de Menezes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:14 AM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: Debian User List
> Subject: RE: pop3 server w/ virtual domains
>
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2000, Paul McHale wrote:
>
> > Mario,
> >
> > >   When using exim + virtual domains, is it possible to have a pop3
> > > server also with virtual domains?
> >
> > All mail for that user will go to the same mail box regardless of what
> > domain it is sent to.  Their might be another way of doing this
> so you can
> > support [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Smith being
> two separate
> > users.  This would probably use aliases of some type.  I can't
> tell by your
> > question which way you meant this.  If it is they same person with two
> > different domain emails (my case) here is what I did in exim.conf:
>
> yes, this is what I meant: 2 users with the same name but different
> domains ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
> I took a look in courier-imap (that support pop3 as well), and I think
> that it can do virtual domains.
>
>
> thanks for you answer,
>
> []s,
> Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
> http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
>http://www.revistalinux.com.br
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RE: pop3 server w/ virtual domains

[Paul McHale]

Mario,

>   When using exim + virtual domains, is it possible to have a pop3
> server also with virtual domains?

I am not sure how you mean this.  I am virtual serving doubleesolutions.com
and desinc.com.  That only matters to exim.  Once exim decides it is taking
care of the domain, it places the mail in the users mail box.  POP3 just
allows the user to get to the their mail box regardless of what domain
caused it to get their.

If this is correct, POP3 has no notion of virtual domain or even domains.
The MTA (exim) is the only part that cares about domains.

>   I mean, if I have some users with same name under different
> domains, how to serve pop3 for them? Is it possible?

All mail for that user will go to the same mail box regardless of what
domain it is sent to.  Their might be another way of doing this so you can
support [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Smith being two separate
users.  This would probably use aliases of some type.  I can't tell by your
question which way you meant this.  If it is they same person with two
different domain emails (my case) here is what I did in exim.conf:

qualify_domain = doubleesolutions.com
local_domains = localhost:doubleesolutions.com:desinc.com

Mail to either domain goes to user pmchale.

Otherwise, you might have to alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] to local user smith1
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to local user smith2.  How to do this in exim, I'm not
sure.  You might try http://www.exim.org.

Regards,

Paul

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Unknown error message in exim

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

Has anyone ever seen an error message like this in exim:

1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error
  from remote mailer after RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  host mail-intake-1.iname.net [165.251.8.194]: 522 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
  User over hourly mail quota

Possibly related, I have the following line in exim.conf:

relay_domains_include_local_mx = true

I think this is redundant as I also have the following line for the domain I
want to relay for:

relay_domains = friendsdomain.com:*.friendsdomain.com

Should I remove the relay_domains_include_local_mx?  Is the error indicating
Spam?  Would removing the second line alleviate this?

Thanks for the help,

Paul


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How to forward by default in exim

[Paul McHale]

I recently received the domain desinc.com from another company.
Occasionally, exim reports that I have mail bound for someone at desinc.com
for which I have no local account.  Is there a way to forward all such mail
to their new domain?

Regards,

Paul McHale


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RE: Exim confiuration for virtual hosts

[Paul McHale]

Here is all I add to:

local_domains =
storm.doubleesolutions.com:doubleesolutions.com:desinc.com:signalpipe.com

Just separate the domains by a colon.  I can send the whole configuration
file if you want it.  BTW, I configured using eximconfig.  At first menu
select option 2.

paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: John Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:12 PM
> To: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Exim confiuration for virtual hosts
>
>
> On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:36:05PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote
> > Has anyone installed exim to provide mail serives to a number
> of domains. I
> > have a webserver running virtual hosts and I would like to provide mail
> > serives for those domains. Exim is running fine for sending mail buit I
> > would like to receive the mail for those domains and put all
> the mail for
> > each domain into the user account for that domain.
> > Thanks for any help you can offer.
> >
>
> Here's how I do it.
> The virtual hosts (www.mydomain.com, mail.mydomain.com)
> all have 'A' records pointing to my mail/web server;
> MX records don't work as well, because stupid mail
> programs/systems put the MX host in the envelope.
>
> My exim.conf contains (all single lines, however your mail client displays
> them):
>
> Main section:
>
> local_domains =
> localhost:my.net.au:*.my.net.au:partial3-lsearch;/etc/exim/clients/domains
>
> Directors:
> A new director, to handle the virtual hosts:
>
> virtual:
>   driver = aliasfile
>   except_domains = localhost:my.met.au:*.my.net.au
>   domains = partial3-lsearch;/etc/exim/clients/domains
>   no_more
>   file = /etc/exim/clients/$domain_data
>   search_type = lsearch*
>
> All other directors have a line like
>
>   domains = localhost:my.net.au:*.my.net.au
>
> so that they aren't applied to the virtual hosts.
>
> /etc/exim/clients/domains contains lines like
>
> *.mydomain.com.au: mydomain
>
> The second field is just an identifier, and for each
> identifier there is another file, e.g., /etc/exim/clients/mydomain,
> which works like a regular alias file, e.g.:
>
> *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> This setup is for virtual domains with three parts in their
> domain name (e.g., *.mydomain.com.au); minor adjustment is
> required if you use "American" style domains (e.g.,
> *.somewhere.com), and you can mix them easily enough (with a
> longer local_domains line and a further director).
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
> John P.
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RE: Help with apachie

[Paul McHale]

I'll take a stab at it.  Make sure you have the .htaccess file in the
directory you are trying to control access to.  The format should be
something like this:

AuthName "Access"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /usr/apache/conf/htpassword
AuthGroupFile /usr/apache/conf/htgroup

require group users




Now edit the httpd.conf file and make sure "AllowOverride None" is changed
to "AllowOverride All".  Make sure the htgroup file has the desired access
name in it.  I.e.

users: fred john

Now add the password by typing:
/usr/apache/bin/htpasswd -c /usr/apache/conf/htpassword john

Please note you apache is probably not in /usr/apache.  Please substitute
/usr/apache for the apache directory in the example above.  Hope this helps.

paul
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> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Schramm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:05 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Help with apachie
>
>
> I am running Debian Slink.  I would like to know how to re-create
> the htaccess password
> file that I deleted at som point.  I know it is simple but I
> cannot find the info anywere
> including Apachie site.  I ran htpasswd -b .password username
> password but that did not fix it.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian Schramm
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> www.linuxexpert.org
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RE: Learning Linux

[Paul McHale]

Title: RE: Learning Linux




You 
Wrote:
Of course Stormix for SCSI installs is 
really bad.  And it locks up hard on some systems because they compile in 
support for old proprietary cd-roms in their boot media.  The look and feel 
of storm Linux OTOH is very nice for the newbie.  Just wish they had gone 
with Windowmaker instead of KDE (or was it Gnome)  I can't remember what 
they used when I installed it.
Reply:
 
I am 
also running stormix.  I would say the install is a little flaky.  It 
locked up on my SCSI card (2940).  I switched to IDE and problem 
solved.  There are some undocumented things which a quick phone call clears 
up.  If it doesn't recognize your video, select text install and it will 
probably let you manually select you video later.
 
Overall, Stormix is pretty good.  They have an 
upgrade for registered users which apparently fixes the SCSI problem.  I 
would install it, but my install works :)  They way to tell is the last 
three digits of the CD.  Mine is -101.  Not the latest.  By the 
way, web/email support is worthless.  Call support is great.  What 
more could you ask for?  Support is limited to 30 days from registration, 
so get while you can.
 
I 
would say stormix is as close to debian as you'll get with the added support for 
easier install and GUI(s).  Well worth it to me :)  Just get the 
latest version from their support department.
 
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Frontpage recommendations

[Paul McHale]

Hi all,

If you are interested in implementing Frontpage server extensions with
apache, it isn't that bad.  Here are a few pointers:

1. Don't use apt-get.  Download the source and compile yourself.  This puts
apache in /usr/local where most documentation I have found expects it to be.
I am not sure why debian doesn't put apache there, but I'm sure the package
manager had reasons.

2. Get the "Improved mod_frontpage" from Freshmeat.  It has complete
instructions.

3. The only additions is virtual hosts.  If you use them, make sure to
replace all occurrences of:

AllowOverride X   with
AllowOverride All

There are several of them.  The rest works like a charm.  If you need to
support frontpage, it is really pretty easy!  Good luck

Regards,

Paul


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RE: sources.list line to support retrieval of apache source

[Paul McHale]

I originally had trouble getting apt-get to delete apache.  For some reason
it refused to.  I then went back to dselect and it worked fine.  I have
since manually downloaded apache and am going to install it as you
mentioned.  If for no other reason, storm only comes with 1.3.3 and apache
is up to 1.3.12.

I assume my manually installing apache also means apt-get will no longer
automatically update apache.  This is a bummer.  I happen to need 1.3.12 so
I guess I'll take care of it manually.  If there is a better way, I would
love to hear it.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Dominic Blythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 10:50 AM
> To: Paul McHale; Debian-User
> Subject: RE: sources.list line to support retrieval of apache source
>
>
> why not just download it from apache?
> i'm not being glib, i really want to know why not,
> cos that's what i did and i'm always looking for
> better (different) ways to do things.
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >
> > Does anyone know the line in sources.list for retrieving
> > apache source?  In
> > the man page, it mentions adding deb-src to the line.  I
> > can't seem to get
> > the syntax correct.  Does anyone have an example line?
> >
> > many thanks,
> >
> > paul
> >
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sources.list line to support retrieval of apache source

[Paul McHale]

Does anyone know the line in sources.list for retrieving apache source?  In
the man page, it mentions adding deb-src to the line.  I can't seem to get
the syntax correct.  Does anyone have an example line?

many thanks,

paul


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Apache support for multiple domains

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I want to do very domain hosting for family and friends.  What I have so far
is multiple IPs and how to assign them to the same Ethernet card.  I also
know how to set up users and allow them to update their own page at
www.mydomain.com/~username.  Here is my attempt at support multiple domains:

I am heading in this direction:  Multiple Virtual servers each with it's own
IP being tied to the following document root directories:

DocumentRoot /sites/www.domain1.com/
DocumentRoot /sites/www.domain2.com/
DocumentRoot /sites/www.domain3.com/

The next question would be: How do I allow users to ftp the their domain and
update the pages?

I plan to add one user per domain and make the web document root their home
directory.  That way FTP will default to that directory for uploading web
pages.

Lastly, I was going to give their account recursive ownership of their
document root.

Does this sound like a plan?  If anyone else has done domain hosting, I
would appreciate the input.  I don't like this because it gives people
accounts on the server.  Because I want them to have file access, I don't
see a way around it.  I guess I'll also give them mail accounts while I'm at
it :)

Best Regards,

paul

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RE: LINUX installation - Debian Distribution

[Paul McHale]

> Interface - Adaptec SCSI, model AHA1540CF/AHA1542CF:
> IRQ 11, DMA 5, ID 7 PORT 134h
> BIOS Revisao 2.02 Ender. Base DC000h
> FIRMWARE Revisao E.0 Soma Verific 4B81h
> HD ID 0 and PORT 80h
> 


Here is something from a previous post that might help:

Assuming that you're trying to install slink (2.1, stable branch)
rather than potato (unstable), I've got a set of unofficial
install-disks setup specifically for this situation.  You can snarf
them from <http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/slink/5.1.19/>.


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RE: ssh pam

[Paul McHale]

> However, AFAIK, you'll have to hand out some $$ if you want
> a Windoze (95/98/NT) ssh client.
> 

Teraterm is one free windows ssh client (the only one I know of).


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RE: Adaptec 2940 UW

[Paul McHale]

> yep..internal 50 & 68 and external 68 .. only 2 out of 3 of the connectors
> can be used at one time.  its also good for overclocking(opposed to the
> 2940)

This is true of the 2940UW but not the newer 2940UW Pro.  It can support all
three simultaneously.  Only drawback is expense.

paul

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RE: Why

[Paul McHale]

> 
> Its a part-time OS.  Sometimes it works half-heartedly doing a 
> fraction of what is needed and sometimes it goes away for no 
> apparent reason.
> 

No thats funny :)

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RE: Simultaneous multiple CD burning

[Paul McHale]

> Is it possible to start several processes virtually
> simultaneously?
>

I don't see why not so long as the targets are different devices.

> I'm attempting to write four CDs simultaneously, using four Yamaha
> 6416 CD-RWs attached to an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card (reading from an
> IDE hard disk, though). If I use:
>

I suspect you may not have enough CPU.  I know the write rate is pretty low
for CDs, but I would try to reduce the write speed to 1x and try to run 2
simultaneously.  Unless you have an insidiously slow system, this should
work.  If it doesn't, suspect problems with running multiple copies.

>
> Is there any reason why this shouldn't work in principle? Is there
> something else I'm missing?

I am assuming one copy works ...

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Is Corel Off Topic ?

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

If I had ingressions of Corel, is it off topic (read, no interest) ?

paul


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RE: Why

[Paul McHale]

Nate,

> saw a mac install once, looked nice.  but at the same time they dont have
> a tenth(or even a hundredth?) amount of hardware to support, and with
> their closed arch. its quite easy to ensure compadiblity.

A little long and historical, but bear with me.  I don't think it's that
bad.

I think you just hit on what got us into this whole mess in the first place.
The rise of MS.  Not too long ago, people basically ran in DOS mode with the
application called windows 3.x.  When you bought software (especially games)
you would install it telling the software what type sound card you had, etc.
We begged unix companies to produce a commercial unix for the brain damaged
x86 architecture.  We needed to run those cool unix apps but couldn't afford
to pay $10K for a unix workstation plus 20% more for maintenance (read
support).

Commercial unix was in the high dollar vertical market and mistakenly blew
off the growing PC market.  The MS did the second best thing to happen to
the PC (as I zip up my asbestos undies), they released Win95.  This was
generational.  It offered preemptive multitasking, trivial GUI based peer to
peer networking with resource sharing (something neither unix or Novell do
to this day)and common developer API.  My games no longer cared what sound
card I had or how much memory I had below 640K.  About the same time NT 3.51
came out with 4.0 being developed.

Then magic took place.  The unix developers finally started developing
workstation apps for the PCs.  Several years ago, we replaced a $10K unix
workstation with a $3K PC (NT) which ran circles around the unix
workstation.  NT, despite criticisms, is reasonably stable as a workstation
for day to day use.  Most people power them off every night anyway.

This was the true beginning of ms domination.  Big blue saw this and tried
to enter with OS/2.  They screwed up and got in bed with ms.  A losing
proposition for many.  I believe you either work for ms or are in ms's way.

This is when the best thing to happen to PCs took place.  Linux.  I am not
just saying that to reduce flames from earlier comments.  Win95 was crucial
for business.  There just wasn't anything else available.  Shame on sun,
sgi, concurrent and all the rest who foolishly competed with the PC and not
the OS.  One could either say they failed to fill the void and ms didn't.
Either way, it created the very environment ms needed and they took it.

Another interesting point.  If commercial unix had taken over the PC, would
we have been better off?  Their prices and customer relations we a joke.
Very limited vendor compatibility.  We bought them because we had to.  Oddly
enough, microsoft spanked them into line a little.  Now ms needs their come
uppance.

Linux is now keeping the monster at bay.  Without Linux, I don't want to
think of what ms would be doing.


paul

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RE: Why

[Paul McHale]

Evan,

>
> Ever look at the macos installer? it has one of the nicest installers of
> all. for a newbie it is nicer than ncurses or xwin based linux installers


This has been true for some time.  Apple has always offered superior ease of
use.  They screwed up with the closed architecture.  Talk about snobs
(apple).  The user base isn't snobbish (as far as I have seen), they are
just cult followers and can't be deterred from their beautiful machines.

Apple is an odd company.  They have pioneered so many technologies it isn't
funny.  The last of which was Firewire.  They have always been clueless on
how o capitalize.  I think they are secretly against the free enterprise
system ;)  They decided to impose a licensing fee of $1 per motherboard for
Firewire (P1394, for PC).  This just about killed it.  I think they relaxed
a bit.  Keep in mind this is over 1% pre profit take on each motherboard.
No way.

Technically, they remind me of amiga.  A lot of bright and very creative
thinkers.  They just decided it was their world and the rest could only rent
space.  Thankfully, IBM decided to compete head to head and opened the PC
architecture.  They didn't see it as profitable since it didn't fit their
mini-computer business model.  If it weren't for this, I don't believe we
would be exchanging mail about the topics we are.

If you think about it, IBM was/is an incredibly arrogant company.  Ask
anyone who dealt with their mini/mainframe computer division.  They spoke,
you listen.  Anything else just confused them.  Having said that, they have
contributed more standards than we probably can think of (standards upon
which gig-Ethernet and Fibre channel were built) and make some of the best
HD in the world.  Did you know the SCSI cheeta was designed by IBM for
Seagate.  They are the only ones who could get 10,000 working like that.

Having said that, I am building up to this.  IBM (to my knowledge) has never
screwed anyone!  Never subverted a single standard.  They may have started
their own standard when another didn't please them, but they are always
above board about it.  They even got Microshafted.  They failed with OS/2
where Linux will persevere in keeping MS honest.  I believe they failed
because they got in bed with MS.

I'll stop rambling.  Apple, I haven't figured you out.  I think you don't
want to succeed or want the world to allow you to succeed on you own terms.
My comment would be, just keep cranking out the technology and try to stay
afloat, please.

Kudos to IBM.

paul

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RE: RE[2]: Why

[Paul McHale]

Bob,

>
> The new Evil Empire is not RedHat. That's a mistake many of us have made.
> Debian will rue the day it got in bed with Corel. I predict
> Obergruppenfuhrer
> Cowpland will mount a full court legal press - and soon - to
> break the GPL.
>

You may be right, but I hope you are wrong.  I think old Linus himself would
get involved over that.  Most of what Linux stock is riding on is hype.
Redhat made nowhere near enough money to justify stock.  If Linus and co
puts the poo poo on Corel, it will kill the stock of Corel.  I don't think
anyone, even Redhat, is in any position to undermine the GPL.  It would be
seen as a direct attack on the very foundation of Linux, Open Source.
People (Microsoft) wouldn't need 10 seconds to capitalize.

> Corel doesn't give a farthing for Debian itself, the project and
> it goals. As
> far as Corel is concerned the dedicated folk who keep this wonderful
> distribution rolling along are just so many bright kids who
> "don't get it,"
> and I suspect - at least as far as the last claim is concerned -
> that they are
> right.
>

>From a stock holders view, your correct.  But everyone realizes Linux works
because it is a volunteer effort.  Subvert that and Linux will dissipate.
No one participating is in a position to do that.  Realistically, the
idealist would simply step away from the keyboard.  Any attack on GPL
(provided the die hard developers live and breath it) would be pointless.

> If you think things have changed around here in the past year or
> so with the
> advent of "Open Source," hang on to your hats; we're in for a
> real ride, and
> real soon, and it won't be nice to watch...
>

You want a nightmare.  Here's one.  Microsoft buying Corel.  That's a
nightmare.  Stockholders aren't so idealistic.  It could happen.  I just
hope Bill hasn't thought of it...  After all, they did invest in apple.
They could major league invest in Corel and claim they are supporting open
source.  Let the subversion begin.  They could buy Corel, run it into the
ground, claim open source doesn't work and that's why it failed.  They
tried, after all.  Talk about the plot out of a bond movie.  (mad scientist
laugh :)


paul

RE: Why

[Paul McHale]

> Well, you posted this Friday afternoon and got thirteen replies (including
> braindead recommendations such as "get Corel"), none of which you

Braindead ?  It is based on debian ...  Do you really think Corel is a bad
distro ?  I haven't used it enough.

paul

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RE: What hardware is good for Debian servers?

[Paul McHale]

>
> We use Asus motherboards on virtually all of the multiprocessor systems
> we build. The reasons are simple. Excellent quality, reliability,
> flexibility, and customer service.

Please go to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus.  I am not saying they are
unacceptable.  I have an Asus board.  I am just saying there are many
frustrated people.  Given Asus popularity, the posters may be an extremely
small segment.  Many have openly complained about support...  I am not sure
any other boards are better ...

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RE: What hardware is good for Debian servers?

[Paul McHale]

Enrico,

> What brand and type of motherboard, raid controller, CPU, modem and backup
> system would you use, to be able to install Debian on it without
> risking to go
> mad after some hardware flaw?
>
> What are good brands of motherboards? Asus? Intel? Soyo? Tyan? MSI? VIA?
> Others?  What are the ones to avoid like death?
>

If you are able to spend a little $$$, you might look into Dell or one of
the others offering pre-packaged servers.  I know nothing about them except
they .should. work with debian minus the few debian specific gotchas.  Maybe
they will have info on either Debian or Corel/Debian computability.  Just
another idea.


paul

RE: Why

[Paul McHale]

Brigette,

You wrote:

Why is it so hard to get anywhere with Linux?
In plain English...how do I get help with the install?  Is there a book
(written in HUMAN English) that I can buy?  I have read all kinds of "how
to's" and I am missing something because I have tried to install THREE
versions of Linux and can't get any to work (on my new $2300 paperweight of
a laptop).

Reply:

You might try Corel Linux.  I installed it in about 20 minutes after
answering four questions.  It is so simple, MS would blush.  I don't know if
it will work on a laptop though ...


paul


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RE: SMP

[Paul McHale]

> Expect few to no problems if you upgrade to 2.2.x as soon as possible (SMP
> support in 2.0.x, which is the default in slink, isn't all that hot).

For what it's worth, Corel's web page indicates Corel/Debian Linux ships
with 2.2 Kernel.  Please see link:

http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/inside.htm

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RE: [off-topic] MS Outlook

[Paul McHale]

Bart,

>
> Have you guys gotten Outlook to work in Debian or something? Through WINE?
> If you did I'd like to hear about that. For a second there I
> thought I was reading
> mail from Microsoft's newsgroups.

I checked and don't believe Outlook will run under linux in any fashion.
The original focus was on the impact Outlook was having on the other people
here.

> I haven't heard Outlook 2000
> mentioned, though.
> You guys do know that it's out, right? IMO, it's significantly
> better (as is the Office
> 2k suite entirely, IMO) in performance and features. The only
> reason I don't use it
> is because I don't have any use for the reminder/calendar/etc.
> stuff in Windows
> because of ICQ99b.

I have heard it is good.  For now, 98 does what I need.  When I upgrade to
office2000, I will install outlook 2000.  It's just too expensive to do
until I need to have it.

paul

RE: [off-topic] MS Outlook

[Paul McHale]

Keith,

>
> It is certainly inexcusable for Outlook to ignore References, as well as
> not give any option for providing them.  MS is the only company I know
> of that wants their stuff to not interoperate with others'.  But NS
> should at least give you a "Terminate Thread" option on reply that would
> clear out the Reference headers.
>

I know of some other companies.  One example is 3DFX.  For a long time
people applauded the proprietary mini-gl interface they used.  For once,
someone could buy a game knowing it would work with their card if it had the
"3DFX" label on the game.  This was fine when they were the only game in
town and a huge leap above next closest competition.  Just like sound
blaster.  Ultimately, it is market security (like job security on a larger
scale).

It became frustrating quickly when TNT cards, and now other cards, began
outpacing 3DFX.  At least with sound blaster one could easily find a sound
blaster compatible.  With 3DFX, other vendors had to use the generic openGL
and face being incompatible with 3DFX.  Now games had to support DirectDraw
(yuck), 3DFX (proprietary mini-gl) and eventually openGL.  This allowed them
to retain market share when they shouldn't have when the competition's cards
were better.

Ultimately, they are getting off their butts again and the next gen looks
really good.  My point:  Had they not had such a death grip on the market,
they would have lost serious market share when the other cards caught up/out
paced them.

My final analysis.  The only good standard is an open standard.  Any company
offering a closed standard or subverting an existing standard is not your
friend.  Due to explosive market pressure, 3DFX is getting much better.
They have no choice.  Microsoft will need much more of the same thing.  I am
convinced competition is the only this that will keep companies honest and
focused on the customer.

I heard SGI is releasing openGL for inclusion in the GPL.  This could be
great for PC graphics.  My fingers are crossed.

It is interesting.  Linus suggested he liked workplace competition between
employees.  I am sure he doesn't mean dog eat dog or one up manship.  I
believe the analogy was regarding the positive effect of competing Linux
distributions.

paul

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RE: SMP

[Paul McHale]

>
> Anyone knows if you can run SMP on a system with one Pentium II
> 233mhz and one
> Pentium II 366mhz or if this will mean problem?

I have two Dual boards and have run SMP under NT for some time.  On the
boards that I have, you can't set the processors at different speeds.  There
is one speed selection.  I think the processors would have all sorts of
problems if you were able to set them to different speeds.  I think you have
two choices.  Run both processors at 233MHz.  This is the safest option.
Overclock the 233MHz processor to some higher speed.  I doubt it will go
from 233 to 366.  I have heard of some insane over clocking.  For me,
reliability is too much of an issue to over clock.

I haven't heard of a PII-366.  Is this a celeron, by chance.  There is
another issue with SMP.  Go to Intel's web site.  Much to my surprise, not
all PII-XXXs are equal.  You have to look for a compatible step of the
processor.  I.e. A PII-450 step 1 may not be SMP compatible with a PII-450
step 3.  When I bought mine, I bought a singe PII-300.  Later, I couldn't
get an SMP compatible PII-300 so I had to move up to a PII-333 to go SMP.
For this reason, I would strongly suggest anyone thinking about getting a
dual MB either get two processors when you buy the MB or save $$$ and get a
single MB with a better processor.

Note this is based on my experience with Asus and Soyo MB running Intel.  I
don't know anything about SMP with non-Intel processors.  I would really
like to hear about dual Athlons !

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RE: [off-topic] MS Outlook

[Paul McHale]

Brian,

> How do you configure MS-Outlook to add the "References" header, so
> that threads will work properly? Or is this a "feature" of a newer
> version of outlook that wasn't in earlier versions?
>
> While I don't use outlook myself, I find it annoying to receive
> messages from people who do use it, when it doesn't add the
> "References" header. Especially when using Gnus, which makes it
> possible to instantly retrieve the parent article by pressing ^.
>

I am not sure there is a way to configure it in Outlook98, which is the
specific version I have.  The RE: has always worked for me.  I do know there
were significant changes from Outlook97 to Outlook98.  You suggestion may be
one of them.

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RE: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)

[Paul McHale]

>
> So, lots of reasons not to use Outlook.  I'm curious, why do you
> find it to be the
> best available?  What does it offer that, say, Netscape can't do
> with a good IMAP
> server?
>

Thanks for the reply !

The best part of Outlook is it's integration.  It works with my Pilot, has a
PIM which is descent.  My only complaint is it can't be minimized to the
system tray.  For me to try to switch at this point would be very
unpleasant.  It's lack of configurability is annoying.  Otherwise it does a
decent job.  Overall, it is the best bang for the buck.  I have looked at
Goldmine and ACT!.  Outlook has the best one stop application.  Another
complaint, as I type this email I check the performance monitor and see
Outlook is using just under 10MB of RAM.  A little steep for a program that
must stay open ...

paul



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Outlook and HTML

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I hunted down the problem with previous post(s) being in HTML.  If you are
an outlook user and are interested in the resolution, please e-mail.  Most
people apparently have this set correctly and know how to detect HTML.

Thanks to everyone for the constructive comments regarding replying styles.

paul


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RE: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)

[Paul McHale]

Steve,

I agree that I am using MS Outlook.  I think it is the best program
available for my use.  I don't understand your difficulty.  I forwarded the
message to my linux server and opened it with mutt.  It came across in plain
text.  I double checked the outlook transmit message settings and they are
set to plain text !

Is anyone else noticing this problem of my message posting in HTML ???

As far as breaking the thread, what are refering to?

Quoting the wrong way.  Feel free to expand on this one ...

What e-mail client are you using ?


paul

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From: Steve Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:45 AM
To: Paul McHale
Cc: Daniel Yang; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: OT: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)
Importance: Low


Wednesday, December 01, 1999, 11:45:56 PM, Paul wrote:
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0

OK, pardon me for being a bit peeved but you and Daniel are both posting
with MS *CRAP* into a Linux forum, using HTML and quoting the completely
wrong
way.  Cut it out!!!

I mean, geez, I'm using a Windows email client but at least I have the
decency to not post in HTML, quote properly and have even gone so far as to
have authors include References and In-Reply-To headers so it doesn't break
threads even though their products don't utilize them!   Sheesh.

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RE: Looking for right ISP

[Paul McHale]

If all 
you want to do is run a web server, you might consider http://www.addr.com.  I stumbled into them the 
other day.  They offer domain and web hosting for under $10.  They 
support almost any web feature imaginable in a high end account for under $15, 
including databases.  Unless you need a dedicated line for another reason, 
I would recommend something like this and using your regular account as a dialup 
as it will save you $$$.  
 
BTW, 
they will relay unlimited mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to whatever local server you 
want to setup.  This is nice.  They claim they are doing relaying 
which means they should hold the mail to be forwarded to your local server at 
whatever static IP.  Or you should be able to forward mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Either way, 
this puts the burden of 24x7 on them.
 
Having 
said this, I love having a dedicated ISDN line with local servers.  I have 
complete control with no limitations on webspace or email 
accounts.
 
I know 
this was off topic, but it may be a desirable solutions ...
 
paul

  -Original Message-From: Daniel Yang 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 
  1999 10:40 PMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: 
  Looking for right ISP
  Hi, everyone.
  Eventually, I made my web server and my own domain (www.mydomain.com) running, but my ISP, 
  mindspring  told me that I am not allowed to run a web server through a 
  dialup account and they can't do anything for me if I want to run my own 
  server. Then I have to  look for a new ISP who provides such service and 
  not expensively. Any ideas and recommendations?
  thanks
   
  Daniel Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450

[Paul McHale]

I am pretty sure the Asus uses the standard Adaptec chipset which other have
reported as problematic with Debian.  Here is an excerpt from a previous
post I saved:

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I've got an unofficial installation diskset for slink that's setup
specifically for the Adaptec SCSI controllers.  You can snarf it from
.

Basically you'll need to boot from the diskette, but can then use the
CD as your installation media...
-

I think this might take care of the problem.  Please post if it does ...

paul

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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 5:56 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450


Hello!

I have a dual Pentium III 450 system with an Asus P2B-DS/350 main board,
in which I removed everything but the floppy drive and the IDE CD-Rom,
master on the second channel.

The standard Debian boot disk hangs probing the Adaptec SCSI card bundled
in the main board; I tried making custom boot kernels with 2.2.13 and
everything hangs asking if I have a color monitor.

I'm trying to build the smallest possible 2.2.13 boot kernel for that
server, but I have no idea what could be the cause.

Is there some boot problem HOWTO or some other source of information about
problems booting linux or hardware problems with Linux in general? Windows
NT boots, installs and seems to work fine.

Is there some known problem with Linux and this Asus mainboard, or with
double Pentium III?

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RE: upgrading from corel linux to potato

[Paul McHale]

Maybe the more important question is how will Corel offer an upgrade to
Corel Linux?  Corel is clearly a polished distribution for end users similar
in nature to windows users.  As long as Corel offers a timely update when
potato becomes available, I think their objective is met.  For the more
typical, commercial end users this is probably more desirable.  Provided
they can incorporate a potato based upgrade in a timely fashion.

Having said that...  If they only changed it so you could not upgrade to
potato directly (keep people coming back for theirs), that would be
understandable yet a bummer.  They offer nice additions.  I just wonder how
much more work it would have been to make Corel upgradeable to potato
directly...

paul

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 9:25 PM
To: aphro
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Subject: Re: upgrading from corel linux to potato


aphro wrote:
> i have a feeling corel will have a glibc2.1 update to their linux not long
> after potato is released ..very few will want to try to upgrade from corel
> to potato ..it would be too painful

It wouldn't be, if corel hadn't done stupid things with kde-corel.

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RE: dselect vs apt

[Paul McHale]

It appears Corel/Debian Linux offers some X graphical interface to deslect.
Check out:

http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/highlights.htm

paul

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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:23 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dselect vs apt




Urban Gabor wrote:
>
> Though it might be a lamer question, I would like to know the major
> differences between dselect and apt.

dselect is menu based, and apt is command-line based.
dselect is slightly confusing, and apt is pretty straightforward.

I think xdselect (if there's any such thing) would be a lot neater than
dselect.

>I do not upgrade my boxes via ftp, I
> allways (more or less :-)) ) wait till the new release is assembled in CD
> images. Why would I switch to apt?

I always do the installation using the Net, 'cause I don't have the CDs
yet...

Oki

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SLINK and SMP

[Paul McHale]

Does anyone know if Slink (2.1 on CD) has SMP support ?

paul

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server reliability tools

[Paul McHale]

What IP server reliability tools are there ?  The only one I can find is
nsmon.  Are there any others ?

thanks,

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test

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RE: Auto blanking of xscreensaver

[Paul McHale]

You might try:

setterm -blank 0

This works in text mode and may work with X since X runs on the term.  This
will prevent the screen from ever blanking !

paul

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Auto blanking of xscreensaver


Hi all,

I have xscreensaver and xlock installed on Slink.  When I lock
my screen, everything works fine for about 10 minutes and then
my display goes blank.

Is there any way I could keep the screensaver running longer
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RE: telnet not working on home LAN

[Paul McHale]

10.0.0.0 is what is called a private IP.  It sounds like you have a DSL
router or something similar.  It is using network address translation.  The
only public IP is assigned to the router by your ISP.

When a machine on your LAN talks through your router, the router strips off
the IP of the local machine and puts the router's own public IP in it's
place and sends it out as it's own message.  When a reply comes back, the
router does the opposite.  It strips it's own IP out and puts your local
machine's IP back in.  You local machine never knows the difference.

To telnet in under these circumstances, you must do two things:

1. Find out the Public IP of your router or DSL modem or cable modem.
2. Set up your router to forward all telnet (port 21) request to your debian
machine.

Your public IP of your router may change each time you log in.  This is
called a dynamic IP.  If it is the same and assigned to you permanently, it
is a static IP.

If it is dynamic, please go to www.tzo.com.  They will register a domain for
you.  Then you run local software on your Linux or windows machine which
tells them you connected and what you IP is.  You domain will be
your_domain.tzo.com.  When you run their software, it will update their DNS
so your_domain.tzo.com will always point to your machine.

I have done this before with a friends DSL router and his home network.
What router type do you have ?  I might know some web pages you can use to
configure it.

Saying it another way, 10.0.0.0 is not a public IP and cannot be routed on
the internet.  This address must be translated to a public IP number.  A lot
of people do this with a private IP like 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0.  Then get
one IP number which is cheaper.  They use network address translation to
allow all of them to share the one public IP.  The only part of your network
that is visible to the internet is your router.  To set up local servers,
you must tell the router which machine gets requests from the internet for
each thing like FTP,WWW,Telnet,Gopher.

If you have any questions, please write back.  This is a little confusing at
first glance !

paul

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From: Patrick Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:16 AM
To: debian-User@Lists.Debian.Org
Subject: telnet not working on home LAN


Hi all,

Just put Debian on a second PC and having problems telnetting in from work.

Trying 10.0.0.2...
Connected to 10.0.0.2.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

Anyone know why I'm not getting a login?  Is there a way to use the
connection...perhaps telnetd isn't installed but I thought it was.

Thanks in advance.

Patrick


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RE: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?

[Paul McHale]

I would definitely be interested in the web page !  Something else I use
Disk Image.  It creates a complete image of your HD saving all partitions to
a file on another hard drive.  This file can be restored later and presto,
you have a complete system the way you left it :)  This was intended for
commercial outfits like Dell.  They configure a system once and then
duplicate the HD.

If you do, any disk will work as a secondary disk and the whole program fits
on one floppy !  You still need a boot floppy.  I burned a CDROM and have a
boot floppy that will boot almost any system (in DOS) and give a menu of
most all the available CDROM drivers.  I then put CDROM in and restore the
saved image.

This is probably not practical for routine backups.

paul

-Original Message-
From: John Miskinis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 6:03 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system?
How?


Hi,

   Thanks for the replies, it's really nice to know how others
deal with the "backup" issue(s).

   I'm really hoping to implement a backup strategy that will allow
me to backup/restore my entire linux system.  Over the last 10
hours or so, I have been researching "taper" as a means.  I checked
out a couple others, but one needed libc5 libraries, and I wasn't
sure if the other would work with multiple volumes.

   Taper seems to be quite slick.  I did a full backup, which only
spanned 2 volumes, instead of 3 with kbackup.  Unfortunately I
can't seem to fit "taper" on my rescue disk.  It has library
dependencies (curses? forms?) but allows static building.  But
the static binaries become QUITE large.

   I tried pruning down my rescue system as small as possible, but
I think I need to start from scratch again.  I use "zdisk" which
is also quite slick.  It copies a specified kernel (mine!) and an
MSDOS filed filesystem (compressed).  The MSDOS file system actually
includes an ext2 filed filesystem (compressed) and syslinux.  It was a
little trickly to figure it out, but I did, and am impressed.  BUT, I think
my MSDOS filed filesystem is not compressing as small as it
should, because I have changed it REPEATEDLY.

   I remember seeing some notes somewhere about this (bootkit?) and
why the /dev/zero is used as the input file when creating a file
to be used as a loop device.

   I think it may actually be possible to use zdisk to create a 1
floppy boot/root disk, that will allow a taper restore to happen.
My brain is a little fried after the last 10 hours or so on this
project, but I will be persuing this again in the near future.

   I may have to resort to having the "taper" and "bg_restore"
binaries on a seperate floppy.

   If I ever get this working, I would be interested to know if
people would benefit from a web page on all of this stuff.  I
planned to have a linux on IBM Thinkpad 560 up at some point
anyway, as it's very tricky to get linux on this machine with
no network connectivity and no builtin CD!

John



>From: "E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: debian 
>Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:37:07 +0100
>
>On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 06:29:45PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote:
> > Hi,
>
>[...]
>
> > This leads me to ask if most people just backup their important
> > files on linux, and if they lose their system, they reinstall from
> > scratch, then restore just their important (user modified) files?
>
>Not even that.  I only safeguard my own products (TeX files, fractals,
>programs).  The rest I have on CD, and the second time I install
>something I usually configure things faster.  Sometimes it is nice to
>try some new settings.
>
> > This is how I always worked on Windows 95.  If I had a builtin
> > CDROM, and linux was easier to install I might opt for this, but
> > on my Thinkpad 560, it took me 4-5 hours to get everything back.
>
>It probably would take me the same amount of time.  But then again, it
>doesn't happen a lot.
>
>Eric
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RE: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?

[Paul McHale]

Yet another recommendation for backing up system configuration only.  I
guess we should be keeping root log files which we use to describe when and
what we changed.  That way, when we break something, it is easier to
backtrack.  Use this to tell changed files in the OS and back those up only.
Another way I use is to copy a file to .org whenever I modify it for the
first time.  I.e. exim.conf would copy to exim.conf.org.  Then use locate
and find all of the .org files.  These files are not real useful in
themselves.  Instead back up the corresponding non-.org file (I.e.
exim.conf).

I just copy the files to a user home directory and FTP them to another
machine for backup.  This is a potential security issue due to the ease of
FTP access, but on my isolated network it's no problem.  If it is an issue,
you could tar, compress and encrypt if it is worth the trouble.

This must be done manually, but only needs to be done when you change the
configuration.

paul

-Original Message-
From: E.L. Meijer (Eric) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:37 AM
To: debian
Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system?
How?


On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 06:29:45PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote:
> Hi,

[...]

> This leads me to ask if most people just backup their important
> files on linux, and if they lose their system, they reinstall from
> scratch, then restore just their important (user modified) files?

Not even that.  I only safeguard my own products (TeX files, fractals,
programs).  The rest I have on CD, and the second time I install
something I usually configure things faster.  Sometimes it is nice to
try some new settings.

> This is how I always worked on Windows 95.  If I had a builtin
> CDROM, and linux was easier to install I might opt for this, but
> on my Thinkpad 560, it took me 4-5 hours to get everything back.

It probably would take me the same amount of time.  But then again, it
doesn't happen a lot.

Eric

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RE: GUI for Samba

[Paul McHale]

See this page:

http://us1.samba.org/samba/GUI/

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 6:57 PM
To: Brant Wells
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GUI for Samba


Brant Wells wrote:
>
> Hi all...
>
> Does anyone know of a GUI config program for Samba??
>
> Thanx
>
> Brant Wells
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RE: BUG

[Paul McHale]

My experience with debian was identical.  I started with slackware beta way
back when (20 something floppies).  Then went Redhat.  Haven't used either
in a long time.  I don't think it would have mattered much.  The Debian
install is unique.  I had a working system and re-installed anyway when I
realize I could have made more ideal configuration choices during install.
I installed a ton of stuff I didn't need.  Doing a fresh install is a nice
way to have a "clean" system, whatever that means :)

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Haude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 8:33 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BUG


On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Kent West wrote:

> smoothly as it should have (for whatever reason). Although this
> next idea is a child of the Windows mentality, you might want to
> redo the install from the beginning. A more experienced person
> would fix the problem rather than reinstall, but a newbie from
> the Microsoft world might find a reinstall both educational and
> helpful.

You don't need to come from the Microsoft world to find this useful. I've
been a long-time user of a small (non-X) Slackware system and switched to
Debian a short while ago. I've now installed the system three times over,
but I now got it down and think that Debian is a great system.

The reason for this is that the Debian package management is quite non-
intuitive, but it works great once you've got it figured out. During the
package selecting/configuring phase of my first install, I missed the
significance of many package settings or interrelationships between
packages and didn't understand what dselect tried to tell me about it. So
I ended up with a buggy, non-working installation. Much of my trouble,
however, was in my case also owed to a definitely faulty hardware.

I now know what it means if they tell you: Debian is NOT for the beginner,
but also an experienced Linux user will have minor troubles. After a few
frustrating days and a few re-installs, however, you are an experienced
Debian user with an extremely well-built system where everything is to be
found in the right place. Something you can't say after the first SuSE
install which most likely runs quite smoothly. Nothing against SuSE, btw.
It's just that it doesn't _force_ you to get acquainted with it, so if you
run into trouble later, it's more difficult to get out again.

--Daniel


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RE: Debian Linux vs BSD

[Paul McHale]

This was my mistake.  There is a link on the openBSD site to "ports".  This
link is to the xBSD general repository which I mistakenly thought was the
openBSD repository.  The ProFTP program is part of the general repository.
Sorry for the confusion.

I also assume this means that openBSD is more secured as long as what you
need comes with openBSD as part of their closer reviewed distribution.
Installing anything else would presumably cause the same bugs under openBSD
as it would under freeBSD.

openBSD code review must have been quite an impressive effort to say the
least...

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:54 AM
To: debian-user
Subject: Re: Debian Linux vs BSD


On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 01:30:19PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:

> There is one question.  They announce openBSD ships with a secure
> version of ProFTP.  The version appears to be older than the bug
> version(s).  Is there something inherently different about BSD that it
> was not affected by the bug ?

Where is this announcement, on the OpenBSD website?

I don't know what the story is with ProFTPD in OpenBSD in regard to
security, but recently on the OpenBSD mailing list, Theo de Raadt
(leader of the project), stated that ProFTPD won't be secure without a
complete rewrite... I'm not sure if the version in the OpenBSD
distribution has been audited by the team or not, though.

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RE: apt-get not updating

[Paul McHale]

Thanks for the help.  I was surprised it didn't upgrade cron as I expected,
but it did upgrade several other packages :)  Cron must somehow be upgraded
or the patched cron must still be considered unstable...

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Dave Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 8:13 AM
To: Paul McHale
Cc: Debian-User
Subject: Re: apt-get not updating


On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Paul McHale wrote:

> Looking at the debian security page, I see the cron utility has been
upgrade
> to fix a security problem.  This was in august.  When I run "apt-get
update"
> it appears to run correctly.  When I run "apt-get dist-upgrade", nothing
> happens.
>
> Here is the /etc/apt/sources.list file:
>
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
>
> Should I have other paths?
>

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/


-dave


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apt-get not updating

[Paul McHale]

Looking at the debian security page, I see the cron utility has been upgrade
to fix a security problem.  This was in august.  When I run "apt-get update"
it appears to run correctly.  When I run "apt-get dist-upgrade", nothing
happens.

Here is the /etc/apt/sources.list file:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US

Should I have other paths?

-paul


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RE: YourDomain setup

[Paul McHale]

You 
don't need more than one computer for domain name registration.  As 
cyber-#$#$# have shown, you don't need any computer to register a domain.  
If you are going to run your own DNS server, you may want to have a backup 
server or secondary server.  When I registered mine, I went to http://www.networksolutions.com/ to 
see if the domain I wanted was available.  If it is, register it.  
Call your ISP for information about their DNS servers with IP numbers.  
This will save you money when registering.  If you register without ISP 
information, the cost is higher.
 
Next 
call your ISP and ask him to make entries in his DNS tables to point to the 
static IP of your web server.  I would recommend arranging this with your 
ISP ahead of time so they can give you any pointers you may 
need.
 
-paul

  -Original Message-From: Daniel Yang 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 28, 
  1999 10:14 PMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: 
  YourDomain setup
  I just set up my apache web server. I am 
  thinking if I could register my own domain name and connect my web server to 
  Internet, that would be nice. What do I need to  do to make it happen? I have only one computer and some one 
  told me that I need at least two to be qualified for domain name registration. 
  Your suggestions?
  Thanks
  Daniel