Re: [debian-user] Mplayer Problem
>--[Stefan Seifert]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The problem is fullscreen doesn't work probably when I switch to > fullscreen the "size" of the image doesn't resize to fit the whole > screen. So a big black border is around the image of the film. You're using the X11 driver, which can't resize. You need to use the Xv driver to use the render extension. -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] International Characters
>--[Tom]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:05:38PM -0700, Tom wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 02:40:09PM +0200, Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote: > > > 100 DM = 51 ? 13 ¢. > > My /etc/environment is now: LANG=en_US, and 'locale' says "en_US" for > > everthing except LC_ALL which is blank. So things like ½,é,¢ are > > working, but what I guess is the Euro symbol in Rüdiger's signature > > is a ?. (FYI: If I hit e in mutt in Rüdiger's message, Nano shows "the > > universal currency" symbol. You could use the ISO-8859-15 encoding, which replaces ~ 6 characters, e.g. the currency symbol for the Euro sign. However, it's not really worth it unless you're European or need the Euro sign for other reasons. > > What's "the next step" to take. > Whoops, I posted too fast: I set my locale to "en_US.UTF-8" and I see > the Euro symbol now. But now my question is: should I just leave the > locale at this? Will some text editors start saving in Wide chars now? > Am I going to be missing further functionality? Or UTF-8 just nirvana? That's your choice. You'll have a broader set of characters available, but there will be programs that won't cope with it. Examples are e.g. joe (treats them byte-wise), elm, pine, irc (can only recode byte encodings), telnet (an upper case Ü is 0xc3 0x9c, the 0x9c will be treated by telnet like a 0x1c, causing some out of band information exchanged instead of the 0xc9 sent), and more. KDE and GNOME apps usually cope well, definately the "official" programs. Games usually are bad at it, like not allowing umlauts to be entered at all. So you're going to have fun replacing or fixing the broken programs. Other then that, you need to recode your plain text files (and file names) into UTF-8. If all your files are US-ASCII, then you need to do nothing, because US-ASCII is a subset of ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8 as well. -- 100 DM = 51 € 13 ¢. 100 € = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] International Characters
>--[Arne Goetje]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > AFAIK KDE3 will try to interpolate the fonts to display glyphs which are > not actually encoded in the font. BUt I don't know how this works and if > the international xfont packages have something to do with it. Not "will try", but "does try". It still has some issues, in particular the fact that if you have some broken font installed it is now even harder to figure out which font is the culprit (and Debian has lots of those, like some displaying o for an ö etc, or not having a glyph that they claim to have, resulting in black boxes). Currently I use Neep Alt/11, but /10 and /12 will give me the same font, except that different fonts will be used for substitution. Also, I can't save in the configuration which of those will be used; the konsole window from the saved session will be like /12, while all other konsole windows will behave like /11, which is really wierd. But I have not given up that maybe one day Debian will stop shipping broken fonts, and font substitution will just work. And having a way to select the font to be substitued like Mozilla has. Btw, the international xfonts you're talking about are nothing else then fonts that contain glyphs for the indicated encoding. -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] International Characters
>--[Arne Goetje]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tuesday 14 October 2003 20:40, Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote: > > >--[Arne Goetje]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Also keep in mind that especially asian people do not use UTF8 as > > > encoding but their local one (SJIS, Big5, GB2312, etc.). These ones are > > > not compatible with UTF8 and you will only see garbage even if you have > > > the right fonts installed. > > Sorry, but any mail client that doesn't cope with recoding (i.e. elm, > > pine) should be put into history's garbage pile. And mutt copes quite > > fine with it, as does konsole (KDE's terminal) (unlike xterm, which will > > happily display stuff using the configured latin1 font even when you're > > in KOI8-R...) > Ever tried to view a big5 text file in a UTF8 locale environment in a If you're in an UTF8 environment, you guarantee that all files on your system are encoded in UTF8. All I was saying is that any program that imports a file into your filesystem that's not in the specified encoding is broken. That in particular applies to mail clients, and any such client that doesn't cope with it should be deleted. Like elm and pine. > window. If mutt can do internal recoding, then it's fine, Which is what I'm saying because it is expected behaviour. Your KMail is nothing special because it can do it. > as long as the mails clearly state in their mime headers, which encoding > they use. Some mails don't do it. If it doesn't, then it isn't mail, but a piece of electronic garbage. And yes, some broken emailer from a well-known US software company sends a lot of those. -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] International Characters
>--[Arne Goetje]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tuesday 14 October 2003 15:03, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 23:58, Tom wrote: > Also keep in mind that especially asian people do not use UTF8 as encoding > but their local one (SJIS, Big5, GB2312, etc.). These ones are not > compatible with UTF8 and you will only see garbage even if you have the > right fonts installed. Huh??? > For them to view in emails you have to use a mailclient which supports all > these charsets and can change between them on the fly (like K-Mail does), Sorry, but any mail client that doesn't cope with recoding (i.e. elm, pine) should be put into history's garbage pile. And mutt copes quite fine with it, as does konsole (KDE's terminal) (unlike xterm, which will happily display stuff using the configured latin1 font even when you're in KOI8-R...) -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] International Characters
>--[Colin Watson]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Beware of /etc/environment, though. It's really a configuration file for > pam_env. I think it should be used extremely sparingly; much better to > change things in your personal shell startup files. Why? If a user says de_DE.UTF-8 upon install, then that's what he's supposed to get without any wierd hacks like editing .bashrc oder .inputrc. > Also, I'm not sure what if anything pays attention to LINGUAS. ./configure when deciding what man pages / translations to install (which is why buildd's should have it unset). -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ANNOUNCEMENT: mICQ 0.4.10.5 released
# # # # ANNOUNCEMENT:mICQ 0.4.10.5 # # # # Since 0.4.10.4 had a bunch of annoying bugs, 0.4.10.5 is released quickly. It fixes all those bugs announced shortly after 0.4.10.4's release, plus a few more, including segfaults and problems downloading the server side contact list. No new features have been added, but the Italian and the Portuguese have been updated. 0.4.10.4 has been removed from micq.org. Remember that versions prior to 0.4.10.4 are supectible to a remote DoS attack; packets, where a variable amount of TLVs are expected in, that contain enough TLVs to cause the TLV table to be expanded, can cause mICQ to crash (namely, if the expanded table ends up on another memory location). Nothing serious, but a security problem nevertheless. The following is unfortunately still true: > Kudos are in order for Mandrake and the PLD Linux Distribution as > they're the only Linux distributions with recent mICQ packages on > rpmfind.net that get the copyright of mICQ right. Guess why mICQ > now displays it pretty prominently. Red Hat and ASPLinux still > consider mICQ to be freely available or BSD licence. Those > distributions also might consider shipping the translated man pages > of mICQ... No Kudos go to the Debian project who still ships a > version of mICQ with a seriously annoying yet trivially to fix bug > and a copyright notice disclaiming my part of the authorship of > mICQ. Shame on you! .deb users, remember that deb http://www.micq.org/deb/ stable main deb http://www.micq.org/deb/ unstable main in your /etc/apt/sources.list will make things easier for you. > Cygwin users, simply point your Cygwin setup.exe to > http://www.micq.org/cygwin/ > as a "download site", and mICQ should pop up in your package list. ... as soon as I have a Cygwin binary *g* Anyway, here are the checksums: md5sum 25b2763345bb8e184a444af7cb49144f source/micq-0.4.10.5.tgz md5sum 6c3237036aef70818677a01f6cbbe745 binary/micq_0.4.10.5-0woody1_i386.deb md5sum e4c1ec9f19746f94c46e80fa2199e5d5 binary/micq_0.4.10.5-1_i386.deb md5sum fde0c4bb6a24079d47829d3da3b1e26c binary/micq-0.4.10.5-1.i386.rpm md5sum b59d619222e9f28870d9d008bf59f2be binary/micq-0.4.10.5-AmigaOS.tgz md5sum addab10e2def991085ecea525a8bd2b3 binary/micq-ssl_0.4.10.5-0woody1_i386.deb sha1sum 442070ea30160ac4942d4fb3235d999459096460 source/micq-0.4.10.5.tgz sha1sum 5df92dd2009d724054c872ea3913ba02b2afc4fd binary/micq_0.4.10.5-0woody1_i386.deb sha1sum a8e47eecefd27bf7000338e60c3c8836535fbc78 binary/micq_0.4.10.5-1_i386.deb sha1sum 0962a1c0a5c5d0357b69da95a12953f081a31090 binary/micq-0.4.10.5-1.i386.rpm sha1sum 11b9d8d7a8f30cb2e82471d0887f5629ba2ec94b binary/micq-0.4.10.5-AmigaOS.tgz sha1sum 96d8112acefcc66a4fad40a4521d8dcf33b0957d binary/micq-ssl_0.4.10.5-0woody1_i386.deb Yours, Rüdiger. -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [debian-user] Mutt and locale
>--[Lonnie Sutton]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I seem to have munged something up somewhere, as I get a "?" where I > should be getting accented letters, and I often get emails with "\227", > or "\223", etc. where I should be getting punctuation. If you get mails with escaped bytes, then the email itself is broken, as it contains bytes whose encoding is undefined or whose values don't make sense, e.g. dumb quotes in the iso-8859-1 encoding, or no encoding given for the body, but still with 8bit characters, or unencoded 8bit characters in the header. If you get a "?" question mark, then the character in the email doesn't exist in your locale; as en_US uses iso-8859-1, then that character is not in the iso-8859-1 range. If you'd use en_US.UTF-8, then you'd be able to display _all_ characters, but there are programs that can't cope with multibyte encodings. However, mutt and KDE, in general, do. Games usually don't. You do not need to install localeconf, unless you want to configure different settings for language, encoding, etc. Setting one big default (that is LC_ALL) to the correct value is usually the best. -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] Converting to UTF-8 from ISO-8859
>--[Alex Malinovich]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 06:58, Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote: > > >--[Alex Malinovich]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 1) I've set up an .Xmodmap file to map my left Windows key to Multi_key > > > so that I can type extended characters. However, I have to run "xmodmap > > > .Xmodmap" manually every time I restart X. I'm guessing that I should > > > put this in an X startup script. A .bashrc equivalent for X. > > > Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the proper file to put it in is. > > I don't know an answer to this one, but isn't the right Windows key used by > > it by default already? > Not on my system. xmodmap shows the two Windows keys set to Super_L and > Super_R. Hmm, on X at leat I can type right-windows u " and get an ű (and not an ü as expected *sigh*). > > > 2) Is there a way to get UTF-8 support in a regular text console? > > Edit /etc/console-tools/config to contain a line like "SCREEN_FONT=lat0-16" > > IIRC. And of course have LC_ALL set correctly. > I've done this, and set LC_ALL to en_US.UTF-8, but I still can't get > proper UTF character support in a console. Yes, that was the wrong font. lat0-16 is just latin-0 with height 16. That's good enough to get the €uro, that's why I remembered it. You should be able to select a unicode font and a unicode mapping with it, using SCREEN_FONT and APP_CHARSET_MAP, and unicode_start with the right arguments should have the same effect. Should, because display works for me, but not input... > So I'm guessing that UTF-8 can use multiple bytes per character somehow? > Just keeping the 100 or so equivalent to the ASCII characters? Yes. The first byte will have at least the two upper bits set; the number of bits set from bit 8 on gives the number of bytes used for this code. Each following byte has bit 8 set, but bit 7 cleared, thus giving 6bit effective data for each following byte. The lead byte also has a few bits effective data, depending on the number of following bytes. See http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#utf-8 for more details. -- 100 DM = 51 € 13 ¢. 100 € = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] Converting to UTF-8 from ISO-8859
>--[Alex Malinovich]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 1) I've set up an .Xmodmap file to map my left Windows key to Multi_key > so that I can type extended characters. However, I have to run "xmodmap > .Xmodmap" manually every time I restart X. I'm guessing that I should > put this in an X startup script. A .bashrc equivalent for X. > Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the proper file to put it in is. I don't know an answer to this one, but isn't the right Windows key used by it by default already? > 2) Is there a way to get UTF-8 support in a regular text console? Edit /etc/console-tools/config to contain a line like "SCREEN_FONT=lat0-16" IIRC. And of course have LC_ALL set correctly. > 3) Assuming that #2 is possible, how can I type extended characters in a > text console? While in X, I can, for example, type "Windows Key", Y, =, > and get the yen symbol (¥). There definately is a way to modify the keyboard layout. Try dpkg-reconfigure console-common, there is some way to select one. Whether it will have the requested bindings, I don't know... > 5) Just to satisfy my own curiosity, could someone explain the > difference between all of the different UTF flavors? I've seen UTF-7, > UTF-8, UTF-16 UTF-8 is the encoding of choice; if encodes unicode code points into sequences of 8bit characters. Main characteristics: ASCII transparent, i.e. every US-ASCII text is also an UTF-8 text; stateless, i.e. each valid UTF-8 sequence has always the same meaning independent from the text before; UTF-8 strings are simple C strings. The UTF-7 encoding is a 7bit encoding, and as such cannot be US-ASCII transparent; it's only use is for emails as UTF-7 does not require another layer of encoding as 8bit characters need in emails. UTF-16 uses a variable length of 16bit characters. Only very obscure unicode codepoints require more than one 16bit character, while most are just one. It can't be US-ASCII transparent - a UTF-16 string containing characters from the US-ASCII (or ISO-8859-1) range will have embedded 0 bytes and thus won't be a valid C string. Also, UTF-16 uses 16bit values and as such has endianness issues. -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] micq: show asia characters?
>--[Qian Gong]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am starting to use micq. Is it possible to let it show Chinese > characters correctly? Thanks in advance. It should display them quite fine, however, it might calculate their width wrong. If you want to have support for Unicode, you need to either wait for the next version, or use the latest CVS snapshot. However, it still doesn't know that some (that is, Chinese and Japanese e.g.) characters are two character cells wide. However, it will do character conversion when necessary - you can specify any contact's preferred encoding. Btw, you better ask those questions on the mICQ mailing list. Yours, Rüdiger (mICQ maintainer/author). -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] kde3 widget themes gone
>--[Warren Dodge]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This one time, at band camp, Rüdiger Kuhlmann said: > > >--[Matias Hermanrud Fjeld]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I noticed something strange with the theme as well, however, I couldn't > > pinpoint it. But since yesterday my konsole crashes at startup - and I > > can't figure out which updated package caused this. I tried to downgrade > > everything that was updated the last few days where I could find an older > > package in my archive, however, that didn't help, either. Anyone any clue? > Sounds like you got the new QT libs. See: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200212/msg00129.html Ah, probably. Thanks for the tip - however, I already "solved" it by using yet another set of unofficial .debs for KDE - the 3.1rc5 ones. Transition was painfull as usual - several packages fighting over some desktop entries, one conflict for fixincludes (on which linda depends), and after the upgrade finally made it's way, all fonts were borked. That's really cool if a requester pops up with hundreds of lines of missing-glyph symbols! Anyway, I could set them to some sane values and everything was fine. However, now konsole can't use the Unicode font anymore - it simply displays Chinese(?) glyphs instead of latin ones. Really strange! It seems font (selection) has always been the Archilles heel of Qt/KDE :-(. I want my unicode font back! If you have tips for that as well, I'd be happy :-) -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] kde3 widget themes gone
>--[Matias Hermanrud Fjeld]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > After i rebooted my sid machine this morning, for the first time in one week, > all my kde3 widget themes were gone. Only the qt builtin ones are left. I > have not done anything special on my machine, just the usual apt-get upgrade. > btw, i switched to keramik and geramik from liquid. I noticed something strange with the theme as well, however, I couldn't pinpoint it. But since yesterday my konsole crashes at startup - and I can't figure out which updated package caused this. I tried to downgrade everything that was updated the last few days where I could find an older package in my archive, however, that didn't help, either. Anyone any clue? -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] Which ICQ Client is better?
>--[sean finney]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > support some form of text-only mode? for icq i've used licq and micq, > one of which has a text-mode plugin, the other *is* text mode, but > i'm not happy with either because the former doesn't keep history > in text mode, and the latter was rather barebones the last time i checked. *ehem* you might want to re-check it, but don't use the version from stable. Actually don't use the Debian version from unstable, but get it directly from micq.org - it's usually better, and you can try out a CVS snapshoot for bleeding edge stuff. Though mICQ is currently ICQ-only, it has some features not available in other ICQ clients, including the best client detection, support for UTF-8 messages and input (only sim / Kopete claim to be able to understand those, however, they actually don't and display only garbage when receiving such a message), and a command to peek whether someone is offline or just hiding. It also has better debugging capabilities than any other ICQ client. However, if you're in need of MSN/Yahoo/AIM/other protocols, those aren't supported... :-/ Yours, Rüdiger (mICQ author/maintainer). -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] Which ICQ Client is better?
>--[Meir Kriheli]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tuesday 12 November 2002 18:52, Pontus Edvardsson wrote: > I use sim-icq. It's really good, supports version 8 of ICQ protocol (ICQ 2001) > with lots of other features as well. It is a qt/kde app, and they have a deb > for download in the downloads section. Might want to check it out: While sim might have some nice ideas, you may want to consider that it is one big rip off. The "author" uses libicq2000, but replaced the copyright information to claim authorship of every file of it! It also copied the client detection code from mICQ (which is the best there is) pretty much verbatim, also claiming authorship. The author some time after the 0.8 release at least attributed it, however, he "released" code originally under GPL v2 still as his own code under GPL version >=2! A look at the includes also reveals lots of #defines found in licq, which suggests some copying going on from them as well. For those copyright violations, I urge everyone to boycott sim until the author has released a legal version. Yours, Rüdiger (mICQ author/maintainer). -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] Which ICQ Client is better?
>--[Paul Johnson]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:52:30PM +0100, Pontus Edvardsson wrote: > > What is the best/most useful ICQ client in your opinion? I've checked out > > gaim, licq & kicq2. Is there any better ones, with closer resemblance the > > original windows client? > I think licq is the best one out there, the Windows client is iffy at best. Damn, no, licq is the most broken one regarding the ICQ protocol. Also, the KDE plugin is very crashy. KXicq2 doesn't seem very alive to me. Kopete sounds very promising (also several protocol support), but it still has some serious bugs (like claims to be able to receive UTF8 and RTF messages, though it can't). I wouldn't comment on whether GAIM, GnomeICU or ickle are good or bad, I never used them really. There's also another KDE client I don't want to mention that's just licqicq2000, licq and mICQ code munged together and slapped with a new "author" name. For a terminal ICQ, try mICQ (the cvs version even has support for UTF8 messages, the first OSS ICQ client doing so). Or centericq if you depend on multiple protocols. A mostly complete list: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uck4/ICQ/ >--[Kirk Strauser]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 2002-11-12T18:52:30Z, Pontus Edvardsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is there any better ones, with closer resemblance the original windows > > client? > Thank God, no, none seem to resemble the Windows ICQ client in the > slightest. I consider that to be a Good Thing. *g* Better have ICQ clients that give you better control over what's happening, because that's where win ICQ is notoriously bad at. Though Linux clients sometimes are not better, like not using an already existing direct connection to send messages... (that's pretty much all except mICQ...). Yours, Rüdiger (mICQ maintainer). -- 100 DM = 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ = 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:ruediger@;ruediger-kuhlmann.de http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] How to pronounce "Debian"?
>--[Craig Dickson]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote: > > That leaves the question how to pronounce "DEHB", "ee", "un", "deeb" and "e". > DEHB-ee-un would presumably rhyme with "day bay soon", right? (Just > kidding.) > Hopefully that is reasonably clear and unambiguous to anyone whose > English is good enough to cope with most of the messages on this list. Yes, I suppose I understood. However, my point was the implicit arrogance in assuming that a nebulous description of "sounds like" is understood by non-native English speakers, when there is a well-defined way of describing it precisely. > > Guess what we have an international agreed upon phonetical alphabet for. > Perhaps I'm misremembering, but the "internationally agreed-upon > phonetic alphabet" isn't perfectly expressible in 7-bit ASCII, is it? No, why should it? My name isn't perfectly expressible in US-ASCII as well, nonetheless your response contained it uncrippled. If even HTML mails are accepted on this list (unfortunately :-, my biggest non-spam HTML mail source), then utf-8 shouldn't be a problem (even less so iso-8859-1). [1] > Besides, in accordance with current American foreign policy, I > pay no attention to all these "international agreements" that foreigners > try to impose on me. And why should you restrict others by doing it the so-called "American" way...? Looks like you understood my point... *g* >--[Nori Heikkinen]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:06:04PM -0800, Craig Dickson insinuated: > > Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote: > > > Guess what we have an international agreed upon phonetical > > > alphabet for. > > Perhaps I'm misremembering, but the "internationally agreed-upon > > phonetic alphabet" isn't perfectly expressible in 7-bit ASCII, is > > it? > nope, but that's why we have TeX & tipa. woo-hoo LaTeX! the biggest > time-sink i know ... :) No, that's what we have utf-8 and MIME for. >--[Nori Heikkinen]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.maenad.net/debian/debian.jpg ? ['dεb.i.jɪn] ['dεb.i.jĄn] The question remains why it isn't on the Debian web page, then... Yours, Rüdiger. [1] I know some trolls ignore people that don't use US-ASCII. -- 100 DM sind 51 � 13 �. 100 � sind 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:ruediger@;ruediger-kuhlmann.de http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] How to pronounce "Debian"?
>--[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thursday 17 October 2002 10:00, Craig Dickson wrote: > > "Debian" is a contraction of the names "Deborah" and "Ian", so I've always > > pronounced it accordingly, with the stress on the first syllable: > > DEHB - ee - un > > Does anyone say it differently? > I often run into people who pronounce it deeb e un. A short explanation of > where the name comes from fixes that for most of them. That leaves the question how to pronounce "DEHB", "ee", "un", "deeb" and "e". Guess what we have an international agreed upon phonetical alphabet for. Yours, Rüdiger. PS: I pronounce Debian like Dibien or like Debian. Guess what that's like. PPS: Guess how to pronounce... no. Don't even try. -- 100 DM sind 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ sind 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:ruediger@;ruediger-kuhlmann.de http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-user] RE: Most stable MSN and ICQ support?
>--[Alex Malinovich]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 23:13, Josh Rehman wrote: > > I think the best bet for a stable client is to run a good Windows client > > like Trillian under Wine. In fact, Wine seems perfect for this purpose, > > since the windows stuff has better protocol support and the API needs > > are pretty mild. > Hmm... Trillian... that sounds familiar... oh, that's right, it's the > proprietary ripoff of Gaim. Reason enough to not use it. :) *giggle* Trillian is the most buggy ICQ client you can think of. It's not even able to route messages through the server if it fails to send it directly. Try anything else - licq is ok if you want a graphical one; go for mICQ if you need a text-based one. For Windows, go for Miranda. Of course, there are more clients than that that are worth recommending. -Rüdiger. -- 100 DM sind 51 ¤ 13 ¢. 100 ¤ sind 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ANNOUNCEMENT: mICQ 0.4.9
# # # # ANNOUNCEMENT:mICQ 0.4.9 # # # # | mICQ is a portable, small, yet powerful console based ICQ client. | | It supports password changing, auto-away, creation of new | | accounts, and other features that makes it a very complete yet| | simple client supporting the current ICQ v8 protocol. | | | | A lot of other ICQ clients are based in spirit on mICQ, | | nevertheless mICQ is still _the_ console based ICQ client.| After weeks of hard work developing mICQ, the new stable version 0.4.9 is finally out. It's functionality has been completely ported to the new v8 protocol, including support for the v8 peer-to-peer protocol. The setup of new accounts has been made easier, among other interface cleanups. The configuration file has been reorganized and now lives in ~/.micq/micqrc. Some v8 specific features were added, including sending SMS. mICQ has been translated to several languages, German, French and Russian beeing the most up to date translations. Character conversion for Russion and Japanese is also included. mICQ recognizes other ICQ clones including licq, StrICQ, Miranda, mICQ and generically the version numbers of all clones following the generic identification method. It also supports the use of SOCKS5 in case you're firewalled. You may configure it to execute arbitrary commands on incoming messages or online/offline events. mICQ is portable, as it doesn't require any external library, so it should run on Linux, BSD, AmigaOS, Win32, BeOS, Solaris and other commercial Unices. Download at: http://www.micq.org/download.shtml Binaries (i386 .deb and .rpm) are included; the debianization and the rpm spec file are included in the .tgz. So distributions may update their packages easily (RedHat 7.3 is at mICQ 0.4.6pl1...). Have fun, Rüdiger (current mICQ maintainer). -- 100 DM sind 51 € 13 ¢. 100 € sind 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running UAE?
>--[Kirk Strauser]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've installed UAE 0.8.20 on my Pentium-3/933MHz machine (P3V4X motherboard, > not that I /think/ it would matter) running Debian/testing. I just can't > seem to get the program to run in any meaningful way: > ~$ uae > Testing the RDTSC instruction ... done. > Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 935.98 BogoMIPS UAE tries to lock your audio output. If you're playing music, you might just have to stop it. Then, there's a config option not to use it (IIRC). -- 100 DM sind 51� 13�. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kdvi went missing
Hi all, Does anyone know where kdvi has gone? I can't find a package supplying it anymore. Also, I wonder whether there will be a new package for selfhtml8.0? Does anyone know how to continue downloads from samba-shares? Yours, Rüdiger. -- 100 DM sind 51 € 13 ¢. 100 € sind 195 DM 58 pf. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/
Browser speed
Hi! I accidently created a browser test that makes Mozilla and Galeon kringe: The webpage in question contains ~400 hundred 12x12 pngs, from which there are around 80 different ones, that are created by a cgi script (running on the same computer as the browser). Here's the result: Opera Konqueror Netscape 4.7x Galeon Mozilla 0.9.7 Reload:20s 23s27s 4m 23s4m 46s Revisit:1s 5s 8s 19s 23s Revisit means typing return in the URL bar when the page was already loaded before, i.e. the images are in cache. What does it tell us? It's a bad idea to reload an image 300 times just because it's 300 times on the page (as you can watch Mozilla & Galeon doing). By the way: why is mutt now linked against slang? Because slang sucks - you can't hve your default background wallpaper (in konsole) as background.
Debian BIOS logo
Hi, I just created a Debian BIOS logo by taking the open logo from http://www.debian.org/logos/, resizing and recoloring it with GIMP and converting it with awbmmake (http://linkit.euro.ru) to AWBM format. It actually looks quite nice instead of the Pollution Preventer logo :-) Maybe it could be included in http://www.debian.org/logos/. Bitmap before conversion: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uck4/Avatar/Debian.bmp Bitmap as 136x84 pixel AWBM file: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uck4/Avatar/Debian.epa AWBM and other utilities: http://linkti.euro.ru Converter for old epa format, lots of precompiled epa/awbm files: http://www.flazh.de Beware - works only with a not too old BIOS. Read the docs. You may destroy your BIOS - use at your own risc. Have fun with it :-) -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Re: [debian-user] customized debian cd
Hi!
>--[Patrick Hsieh]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'd like to made a customized debian cd. Can I dpkg --get-selections to
> get my installed package selection and put all of them into 1 or 2 CDs?
> Is it possible? How?
If all you want is a CD with all your packages on it, use apt-move. If you
run it, it will move all downloaded debs into a local mirror that you can
apt-get from.
If you want a custom boot CD, things get more difficult, since some stuff isn't
packaged properly yet. What to do?
1) Use apt-move to create a local mirror with your packages.
2) Download doc, tools and indices from a ftp mirror. There is no packages that
does
it for you. You may also create a complete mirror using rsync; that will
give you those directories, but also _all_ packages.
3) Make sure you have boot floppies in your mirror, with current pointing to
the one
you want to use. You may create custom boot floppies (e.g. German ones)
with the boot-floppies packages.
4) Use debian-cd to create your CDs. To make tasks work, you need to create an
override
file and apt-ftparchive to merge that stuff. debian-cd unfortunately
doesn't use apt-ftparchive. Edit /usr/share/debian-cd/CONF.sh to your taste.
5) I created a script that does the job:
--snip (mycd)--
#!/bin/sh
set -e
. CONF.sh
apt-get --download-only install $(/usr/sbin/debootstrap --print-debs --arch
i386 woody)
apt-move update
cat /var/lib/apt/lists/*_binary-i386_Packages | > /mirrors/debian/override \
perl -000 -ne '$p = $1 if /^Package: (.*)/mi; print "$p Task $1\n" if /^Task:
(.*)/mi;'
apt-ftparchive generate /etc/apt/archive.conf
make distclean
make mirrorcheck
make status
make bin-list TASK=tasks/Debian_woody COMPLETE=1 SIZELIMIT=45000
make bootable
make packages
make bin-extras CD=1 ROOTSRC=/mirrors/debian DIR=goodies
cat > $TDIR/archive.conf << --CONF--
Dir::ArchiveDir "$TDIR/$CODENAME-$ARCH/CD1";
Tree "dists/$CODENAME"
{
Sections "local main contrib non-free non-US/main non-US/contrib
non-US/non-free";
Architectures "i386";
ExtraOverride "/mirrors/debian/override";
}
--CONF--
apt-ftparchive generate $TDIR/archive.conf
make bin-md5list
make bin-images
make imagesums
--snip--
I created working CDs with that (btw Tasks only on CD1; you have to loop
around the apt-ftparchive for all CDs). If you want to be able to do
ReiserFS on your first CD, edit
/usr/share/debian-de/tools/boot/woody/boot-i386 and set KTYPE[1] to
"reiserfs".
Have fun!
--
A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a
"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Re: [debian-user] licq wont send messages
>--[Andrew Austin]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please adjust your line width to something reasonable. THANK YOU. > I send my messages to the icq.mirabilis.com server and recieve an ack for > them, they just don't make it to the person i'm sending to. Q: I'm receiving offline messages again each time I log in. A: A0L changed the v5 protocol; the parameter to the ack command now is checked to have the correct value, which is unknown. S: Just ignore them. Q: I'm sending messages over the server, but they're just dropped. A: A0L does "some" spam restriction if you're using ivqv5; you're not allowed to send too frequently over the server, otherwise packets will be dropped. S1: Try to use a direct TCP connection. S2: Add a counter and let your peer ack them so you know they're read. Q: I'm trying to use a direct TCP connection. A: The newest Windows ICQ has set, and will set upon upgrade, the option "ignore connections from older clients". S: Educate your windows users to switch it off. Q: Which clients do have this problem? A: All clients using icqv5, including Windows ICQ98. S: Use Jabber instead, it has a known and public protocal, and there are more than just one server. Or wait till icqv7 is implemented. Yours, Rüdiger (having mICQ CVS write access) -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Re: [debian-user] apt-get upgrade error
>--[Victor Julien]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su > Password: > victor:/home/victor# cd / > victor:/# apt-get upgrade > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following packages have been kept back > cdparanoia libcdparanoia0 libcdparanoia0-dev > 50 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not > upgraded. > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > blt8.0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1) but 2.2.3-9 is to be installed > communicator-smotif-477: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2) but 2.2.3-9 is to > be installed >Depends: libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 but 2.91.66-4 > is to be installed >Depends: netscape-base-4 (>= 1:4.77-1) but > 1:4.77-2 is to be installed > The weird thing is, that all the packages mentioned above are already > installed! > Does anyone know what going on? There is a bug in apt, that has had four grave bug reports, which were later downgraded to normal bugs - it's not that bad that nothing works, isn't it? Btw reduce your sources.list to at most two out of stable/testing/unstable, that worked for me. -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi
Old packages?
Hi! Is there any place where one can download not-most-recent versions of unstable packages? Yours, Rüdiger. -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi
Re: [debian-user] Warum sollte ich gerade Debian Linux kaufen?
Hi! >--[Felix Hoff]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This list is English. > ich kann mich noch nicht recht für eine Linuxdistribution entscheiden und > möchte Sie daher um > Beantwortung folgender Frage bitten: > Warum sollte ich gerade Debian Linux kaufen? oder > Was sind die entscheidenden Gründe für Debian Linux? | I can't yet decide for which linux distribution to go for and would | therefore like to ask for your help to answer the following questin: Why | should I buy Debian Linux? or What are the deciding(?) reasons for Debian | Linux? First of - don't buy it, ask a friend for a copy. Linux is free, and Debian in particular has no company behind it, in opposite to SuSE or RedHat. So beware - there is a difference in philosophy: you'll have the next release of Debian when it is ready, not when the PR department wants it ready. If you want more recent packages, you have to go for unstable. Anyway. The killer app of debian is definately it's working package management - a simple "apt-get install mozilla" will fetch and install Mozilla for you. You won't need to start over the installation if you want to upgrade your distribution (try upgrading SuSE 6.2 to 7.1. It fails to install a statically linked ash, which it needs to create it's initial ram disc, and expects the installation to continue with YaST2 if it hasn't even installed YaST2), and it won't clobber your configuration files if you upgrade packages. On the other hand, if you want some sort of hardware detection, you're lost with Debian (as of now). If you want to be held on your hands for everything, don't go with Debian as well. In short: If you're a beginner, go for SuSE. If after a while you feel the urge to try something different, go for Debian. -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi
Re: [debian-user] PS/2 mouse under X.
Hi! >--[Andrzej Swedrzynski]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > use working under X but I can not. This is Logitech M-S48a PS/2 I seem to have the same mouse - it's an OEM with a black logo, right? I read on http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/, which has been cited on this list several times now, that this mouse (or at least the M-S48) won't work, so I gave up, but I was surprised to learn that it works on a friend of mines's computer running Mandrake. Anyway, the config it runs with on my system is: --snip-- /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Device""/dev/gpmdata" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" Option "Buttons" "3" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection --snip-- /etc/gpm.conf device=/dev/psaux responsiveness= repeat_type=raw type=imps2 append="" sample_rate= --snip-- (comments omitted) Yours, Rüdiger. -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi
Re: [debian-user] mutt w/IMAP4+SSL?
Hi! >--[Nate Amsden]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mutt does now officially support IMAP. Please upgrade to a > recent version and use --enable-imap and preferably > --with-ssl if you have OpenSSL installed to get > SSL encryption for your IMAP connections. $ mutt -v Mutt 1.3.12i (2000-11-27 [...] +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL +USE_SASL [...] So it's just not compiled in (because openssl is incompatibel to the GPL or some such nonsense). Yours, Rüdiger. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/
Re: [debian-user] Scrolling the mouse wheel of Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (again) in Corel Linux 1.2
Hi! >--[Marco Herrn]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'd like to have it, too. I can't get the wheel to work at all - the funny > > thing is, when I do something like "cat /dev/psaux/ | od -tc", it starts > > printing characters for moving the mouse or clicking the buttons, but not > > for moving the wheel! What can I do? If there is no response to the wheel > > that low level, of course it can't work anywhere else... > To use the wheel you must add line for ZAxisMapping in your XF86Config. Yes I did everything I should, but > Look at http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ this is the right tip - I bought an OEM Logitech PilotMouse+, so it looks like I'm doomed... Thanks a lot! Yours, Rüdiger. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/
Re: [debian-user] Scrolling the mouse wheel of Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (again) in Corel Linux 1.2
Hi! >--[Rob VanFleet]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 10:13:16AM +0100, Andrea Vettorello wrote: > > Modifying your ~/.Xdefaults file you can use the wheel in Nestcape 4.x too > > without > > imwheell. > > I've posted mine some time ago on the list... > Could you possibly repost it? I searched the archives back to 97 and I only > got two results. I'd like to have it, too. I can't get the wheel to work at all - the funny thing is, when I do something like "cat /dev/psaux/ | od -tc", it starts printing characters for moving the mouse or clicking the buttons, but not for moving the wheel! What can I do? If there is no response to the wheel that low level, of course it can't work anywhere else... Yours, Rüdiger. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/
Re: [debian-user] I can't type any ü, ä or ö in a shell
Hi! >--[Ethan Benson]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > actually you just have to change LANG=C in /etc/environment to > LANG=ca_ES or whatever. This used to work, but somehow since a few weeks /etc/environment isn't honoured anymore by KDE. How can I make it work? -Rüdiger. -- http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/
Re: [debian-user] OT: Wildcard renaming of files
Hi!
>--[Martin Fluch]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A little bit bash programming...
> for $i in *.html ; do mv "$i" "${i:0:${#tmp}-1}" ; done
for $f in *.html; do mv $f ${f/.html/.htm}; done
Requires a not too old bash. Beware of file names containing .html elsewhere
than at the end...
Yours, Rüdiger.
--
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Re: [debian-user] GeForce2 w/ XFree86 4.0.1 [ a little new ]
Hi! >--[Andy Bastien]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >--[Rüdiger Kuhlmann] > > I have a GeForce2 MX, but I still don't get 3D running. At first, kdm > > crashes unless there is also an libGL.so.1 pointing to the _old_ libGL.so. > You might have a conflict among your libraries somewhere. Go through > all of the instructions that came with the drivers again and verify > that you've done everything, especially the steps that explain which > libraries you need to remove. Compare dates and file sizes with the > drivers you compiled. I fiddled around with it by hand after it didn't work. This way, 2D, but not 3D, works. If I let libGL.so.1 point to libGL.so.1.0.5.nvidia as well, kdm crashes on startup. Can someone check filesizes with this list? --snip-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib> ll *GL* *glx* ls: *glx*: No such file or directory -rw-r--r--1 root root 519926 Nov 2 18:44 libGL.a.debian lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 21 Nov 6 19:30 libGL.so -> libGL.so.1.0.5.nvidia -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 19 Nov 2 18:44 libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2.debian -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 184112 Oct 23 22:30 libGL.so.1.0.5.nvidia -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 349804 Nov 2 18:44 libGL.so.1.2.debian lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 Nov 5 13:44 libGLU.so -> libGLU.so.1.3 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 Nov 2 08:39 libGLU.so.1 -> libGLU.so.1.3 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root78412 Oct 18 15:59 libGLU.so.1.1.030201 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 487348 Nov 2 18:44 libGLU.so.1.3 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 25 Nov 6 19:22 libGLcore.so -> libGLcore.so.1.0.5.nvidia lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 25 Nov 6 19:22 libGLcore.so.1 -> libGLcore.so.1.0.5.nvidia lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 25 Nov 6 19:22 libGLcore.so.1.0.5 -> libGLcore.so.1.0.5.nvidia -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1499464 Oct 23 22:30 libGLcore.so.1.0.5.nvidia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib> cd /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions> ll *GL* *glx* -rw-r--r--1 root root 1821046 Nov 2 18:44 libGLcore.a.debian -rw-r--r--1 root root 259916 Nov 2 18:44 libglx.a.debian lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 22 Nov 6 19:32 libglx.so -> libglx.so.1.0.5.nvidia lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 22 Nov 6 19:32 libglx.so.1.0.5 -> libglx.so.1.0.5.nvidia -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 450924 Oct 23 22:32 libglx.so.1.0.5.nvidia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions> --snip-- > > Then, when starting X, the screen is black for ~8 secs with some blue > > flickers, before it switches to the right display mode (you can see an "old" > > image there for a short time). That's strange, but doesn't really hurt. > That's (more or less) normal. Well, the nv driver of X 4.0.1 may flicker, but not those 8 secs nvidia does. > > But when I play anything with eg realplayer, it isn't accelerated - the CPU > > usage goes up endlessly, and it's still slow (I'M just playing the > > realplayer credit intro, so nothing too complicated). > You could also try some OpenGL screensavers, or go to Hmmm. 3D doesn't work. The Morph3D (GL) one crashes, the other two don't show anything. > I don't think you're supposed to get any warnings. You could try > compiling the drivers again and posting the warnings. --snip-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp-res/NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-5> make SYSINCLUDE=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/ rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1 -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I. -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/ nv.c /tmp/ccw837do.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccw837do.s:9: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for .modinfo cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1 -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I. -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/ os-interface.c cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1 -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I. -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/ os-registry.c /tmp/ccMZnreI.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccMZnreI.s:16: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for .modinfo ld -r -o Module-linux nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o ld -r -o NVdriver Module-linux Module-nvkernel size NVdriver textdata bss dec hex filename 387763 26912 40 414715 653fb NVdriv
Re: [debian-user] GeForce2 w/ XFree86 4.0.1 [ a little new ]
Hi! >--[Jonathan Wheelhouse]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:01:46PM -0800, Cisco.Addict wrote: > > Sorry, is there any way i can get my GeForce2 GTS 64mb working in XFree86 > > 4.0.1 > > (Im hopeing to be able to play Quake3) > I've got a GeForce2 GTS 32mb; I followed tomshardware instructions (+ > others) to install and now I can play the quake 3 arena demo (looks > great but is really gory). I have a GeForce2 MX, but I still don't get 3D running. At first, kdm crashes unless there is also an libGL.so.1 pointing to the _old_ libGL.so. Then, when starting X, the screen is black for ~8 secs with some blue flickers, before it switches to the right display mode (you can see an "old" image there for a short time). That's strange, but doesn't really hurt. But when I play anything with eg realplayer, it isn't accelerated - the CPU usage goes up endlessly, and it's still slow (I'M just playing the realplayer credit intro, so nothing too complicated). I don't get any error messages in XF*log (except the one you noted, but DRI is a driver architecture not supporting nvidia, so I guess it will stay unused if you load it). Yes I do have the NVdriver compiled, although I got some warnings (I don't remember too precisely right now). > But doesn't seem to hurt anything. quake3 is really quick; looks good > so I assume 3d performance is OK. Okay, are there any .debs for Quake3, or where do I get it? Btw, does anybody know .debs for kdevelop 1.2? Yours, Rüdiger. -- http://www.ruediger-kuhlmann.de/
