Re: A piping problem
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Joseph Hartmann wrote:
#!perl
while(STDIN){chop $_; print $_\r\n;};
I can give the command less /usr/local/bin/printer.staircase.filer
to bash, and get a listing of the file -- it really IS there.
But when I try to pipe stuff into the filter with the following command
to bash cat mytextfile | /usr/local/bin/printer.staircase.filter | lpr
I get the the following error report:
bash: /usr/local/bin/printer.staircase.filter: No such file or directory
lpr: stdin: empty input file
Can anyone explain why bash tells me the file is not there?
You get No such file or directory -- probably because perl is not in your
path. Put the absolute path to perl in line one, like this:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
hope that helps!
--
quiet rob
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Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
recommendations for an X news client?
I'm looking for something better than knews and netscape's news client -- any suggestions? -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: Debian Crash
On the same topic, I've recently had a crash in debian -- one that I've had before in Redhat 4. I've a very funky, self-built system... the crash is like this (and sometimes its like clockwork): 1. boot with xdm. Log in. 2. CtrlAltF[1...6] to switch to a different terminal. 3. Log in, do my stuff, log out. 4. CtrlAltF[7,8] to either return to X or look at the console log... it will never get to X (or the console log)... the video freezes blank and that's that. I doubt anyone could tell, just by description, what that problem is, so I'm looking for a good way to try and trace it. Trying to telnet in from a remote site is a good idea (it could mean the box is up, and something driving my screen died), I'll try. I'm fishing for other possibilities. (??? Please) :) -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Rich Harran. wrote: My Debian system just crashed. This has never happened before, which is one of the things I like about Linux. I've got a pretty standard Hamm system, and I was running X with emacs (20), xmix, and netscape, with a navigator and mail window open. I went on a webpage I've visited many times before (www.tomshardware.com), and everything seized up: the mouse wouldn't move, I couldn't move between virtual desktops and I couldn't move between virtual teminals. I waited a couple of minutes, then tried cntlaltbackspace, then cntlaltdel, neither of which had any effect whatsoever, so I pressed the big red button, and restarted that way. The only non-Debian software I have installed is xaudio, an X window mpeg layer 3 audio player, which is off /root/mpeg (I was just trying it out). My hardware is an old(ish) Cyrix 6x86 (M1) P200+ on a SuperMicro P5xtra motherboard, 32mb DRAM (2simms), Matrox millenium 4mb, WD harddrive, mitsumi Cd rom, soundblaster awe64 pnp, microsoft serial mouse. Up 'till now, everything seems to have been working fine (I've had random crashes under win95, but I think that's a feature of the OS). My questions: Is there a problem with my hardware (it's quite old)? Was there a problem with Linux? If not, is there now? If so, how do I fix it? What should I do to test the components in my system individually? I put it together myself (about 2 years ago), so I don't mind poking around inside. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Debian Crash
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote: what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0. I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system freezes happening at least once a day. Jeezus, system crashes once a day! Uninstall that puppy! And I thought Netscape 4 was iffy in UNIX. :) -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: Moving Files from Windows
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Jeff Katcher wrote: Costa, Michael J. wrote: I have just installed LINUX on another machine in my office. The powers that be are reluctant at this moment to let me put in on the network. I have loaded some items down to my NT machine and now need to ship them to my LINUX box. However they are too big to fit on a floppy. Anyone got any ideas of a utility I can use to compress on NT and uncompress on LINUX? Have you tried Paralell or serial link?? ie nulmodem or paralell (I havn't tried this myself, but it might work (Kermit to Kermit)?? Or you could get GNU's tar and gzip utilities for DOS. (Almost positive GNU is the place to get these utils -- if not, I've got them cause I've used them at work). -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re:96M RAM, but free only shows 64M!!!
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Rich Harran. wrote: I supposedly have 32Mb ram, but free says 30236. Am I misinterpreting something, or do I have a memory problem. (I only tried 'free' after following this thread!) TIA Rich Harran Rich, your worried about the missing 3 MB? I'm not sure why that happens either. It just so happens that I have 128MB... but lilo.conf wasn't altered with the 'append=mem=128M' line I'm supposed to have (that's all fixed now, I just have to reboot). So I should currently have 64MB. free reports only 63528, though (ie, 62MB) -- so I'm kinda curious about that 2 MB I'm missing, myself. I have no real clue (please fill me in), but it may be something like the bios from some subsystem stays resident during boot, and in my case it resides in the first 64MB.(???) In any case, I wouldn't be too concerned about it, your ram is, basically, all there. best regards, Rob
Re: dselect (or apt) wish list
On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Zack Brown wrote: 4) It would be great to have a utility that searched my .dpkg/ tree and identified any debs for which newer versions have already been downloaded. That way I could delete the old ones and save space. Are there .lsm's for each .deb in the ftp server? You could write a script that took the lsm for installed packages, reads the name (along the lines of this hypothetical: kde-base_1.0 becomes kde-base) and searches for that name in the ftp site. If the version number is greater (kde-base_1.1), queue it for download. Your script could prompt for you to replace the files after download (or could read a config file), and could use quotas, a config file, or df output to insure it didn't do any damage. I'm kinda interested in working on a script to handle something like this (perl or java, I'm no great programmer) -- if anyone, who knows a bit about the ftp site layout for debian packages, wants to lend a hand provide some specifics for me, I'd be happy to write something (not that others couldn't do better, but I suppose we all can contribute). 8) Last but not least, during the select phase, when searching for packages, only package names are searchable. I would really like to search descriptions as well. Package categories (Opt/News, or whatever) are also in the search list. I hope no one takes offense to these suggestions. I'm just trying to help. Zack cool ideas, Zack. -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
debian KDE: kscd's CDDB access broken?
the kscd that comes with the KDE debian install can not connect to any CDDB database. I'm sure it is a problem with the version of kscd (I read that v 1.2.something works, but previous releases had problems) -- I want to upgrade minimally to get a working version of kscd. Does anyone know what needs to be upgraded? much thankx in advance. -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
mounting cds in debian
I've a new debian installation; and I'm trying to mount music cds. My system is scsi, and I've a CD-WORM on scd0, and a 24x Pioneer on scd1. As root, I get the wrong fs type, bad option... error when I try to mount the drives (I get the error and control returns right away on scd1, but scd0, the WORM drive, takes a while). Like the following: darknesswithin:/dev# mount -v -r -t iso9660 /dev/scd1 /cdrom mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd1, or too many mounted file systems darknesswithin:/dev# mount -v -r -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, or too many mounted file systems scd0 and scd1 look like: darknesswithin:/dev# ls -la scd* br--r- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Nov 2 09:49 scd0 br--r- 1 root cdrom 11, 1 Nov 2 09:49 scd1 -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: changing default window manager - How!
edit /etc/X11/window-managers after the commented lines (beginning with '#'), it lists, in order of preference, windows managers to load -- you want yours to be the first on that list. -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann On 5 Nov 1998, rathon wrote: Hi, I am using Debian2.0 and the default window manager that comes up is fvwm. I would like to change this permanently to olvwm. Which file should I edit ? Also, how I can I change my shell permanently from bash to csh.. Thanks in advance Rathon Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: SCSI problem, can't instal Debian
On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Reagan Doose wrote: I am trying to install Debian 2.0 from a Bootable, SCSI CD. I have a Dell Dimension XPS H266 computer with an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI adapter and a 2GB UW hard drive. All starts off well, I get the boot prompt, and the system looks like it is coming up, then I get this: (scsi0:-1:-1:-1) Bad scbptr 16 during SELTO. (scsi0:-1:-1:-1) Referenced SCB 225 not valid during SELTO. SCSISEQ = 0x5a SEQADDR = 0xh SSTATO = 0x15 SSTAT1 = 0x8a This is repeated forever. This problem did not occur two days ago when I installed RedHat 4.2, so I don't think it is a hardware problem. You're supposed to boot with this lilo append option: aic7xxx=extended,no_reset So, from the lilo prompt, you type that -- once in, edit /etc/lilo.conf, and add that as an append option (like 'append=aic7xxx=...' -- read the lilo man), and rerun lilo. For some reason, this only keeps my hard drive from resetting the bus about 1 in three tries, though, so if that works for you please write me. :) -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: SCSI problem, can't instal Debian
Just fyi, I think I finally did fix my SCSI problem (had a 1 in 3 chance of booting without the infinite reset errors). The problem was that I have a device that was incorrectly set to UW instead of U (40 max trans rate, instead of 20). The old aic7xxx driver I had in RH4 somehow didn't have a problem with this, it would simply renegotiate transfers to the correct speed... I changed the setting in my adaptec card, rebooted with the aic7xxx=extended,no_reset flag, and all's well. -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Kenneth Scharf wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Reagan Doose wrote: I am trying to install Debian 2.0 from a Bootable, SCSI CD. I have a Dell Dimension XPS H266 computer with an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI adapter and a 2GB UW hard drive. All starts off well, I get the boot prompt, and the system looks like it is coming up, then I get this: (scsi0:-1:-1:-1) Bad scbptr 16 during SELTO. (scsi0:-1:-1:-1) Referenced SCB 225 not valid during SELTO. SCSISEQ = 0x5a SEQADDR = 0xh SSTATO = 0x15 SSTAT1 = 0x8a This is repeated forever. This problem did not occur two days ago when I installed RedHat 4.2, so I don't think it is a hardware problem. I have a computer with an adaptec 2840 controler, and had the same problems. The only way I was able to get the SCSI on line was to install a custom kernel with support for ONLY the adaptec controller built in. Trouble is that the stock kernel supports MANY different kinds of scsi controllers and probes for the one you have. This probing screws up some adaptec models into FUBAR. Also you MUST enable the bios on the scsi card or linux won't be able to use it. I ended up puting an IDE cd rom in the computer to load a base system, then re-built the kernel. Now I can use the scsi cd. If you have a second computer, or have access to another debian system you can replace the stock kernel on the boot floppy with one having only the adaptec (or what ever) driver. In my case adding lilo parameters did not help. _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
debian bootup and aic7xxx module
okay, I've got this adaptec 2940UW card which was a major pain in my a$$ when I installed RedHat 4 on my system a while back. I've just installed debian, and on startup (from the rescue disk), couldn't load the kernal without the lilo flag aic7xxx=extended,no_reset. The funny thing is, half way though the install, I decided I wanted a different disk partition setup, and I could not change the primary boot sector from reading Linux EXT, even though the type flag was 83. So I restarted the install, and it wouldn't boot up passed the aic7xxx error: not the SIG error, instead my scsi hard drive (I only have a single scsi hard drive), which resides on id:lun 0:0 resets the whole chain repeatedly. After about 3 tries (thinking maybe i mispelled, or maybe I didn't have extended, or whathaveyou), it worked again, and it installed the base system. I was at the reboot part, so I did that, and guess what? three tries loading lilo with aic7xxx=extended,no_reset before it would work. anyone know what's going on? -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: Waiting for scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Moore, Paul wrote:
What I'd like to do is to write a script which starts the PPP
connection, then waits for all the ip-up.d scripts to run, and for my
mail to finish arriving, and then drops the connection with poff
(actually, I'd like it to ask me whether it was OK to go offline, and
allow me to override, but that's not too hard).
Well, could you add a script in ip-up.d that runs last, and checks to see
if mail is finished? This might solve part of your problem...
it would be best to call your script after ip-up, from the script calling
ip-up.
that could be something like:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
#we'll call this script ppp-wrapup.pl
#lets user set timeout value on the command line (ie,
#ppp-wrapup.pl timeoutvalue)
($ARGV[0] =~ /^\d*$/)? ($timeout = $ARGV[0]): ($timeout = 5);
#wait for ip-ups to die ... maybe you don't really want to do that.
while(grep /ip\-up\.d/, `ps -aef`){
last if($a++ $timeout);
sleep 5;
}
#keep track if ip-up finished
$done++ unless ($a 4);
#wait for mail script to finish
sleep 5;
while(grep /mailprogram/, `ps -aef`){
last if($b++ $timeout);
sleep 5;
}
#again keep track
$done++ unless ($b 4);
if($done 0){
#do your work killing the connection here
}else{
#handle the timeout here
}
exit;
--
quiet rob
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Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: Issues in switching to Debian
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Raymond A. Ingles wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Rob Collins wrote: ...and a fairly larger problem: I've discovered I have a virus on my machine. [snip] No, a boot-sector virus essentially runs under the BIOS. This *can* infect a Linux machine but I find it difficult to believe that Linux would still boot in such a circumstance. What leads you to believe the virus is running under Linux? here's what I gather is relevant from ps, pstree, and slice; [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# pstree -alnp init(1) |-xdm(413) -nodaemon | |-X(415) -auth /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-a00413 | `-xdm(416) | `-fvwm2(427) -cmd FvwmM4\040-debug\040/etc/X11/AnotherLevel/fvwm2rc.m4 ||-FvwmTaskBar(507) 10 4 /tmp/fvwmrca00447 0 8 ||-FvwmButtons(508) 12 4 /tmp/fvwmrca00447 0 8 ||-nxterm(510) +ut -T darknesswithin.intr.net-Main -n Main ... || `-bash(513) || `-su(514) - ||`-bash(515) || `-pppd(6591) debug /dev/ttyS1 38400 connect ... ||-xload(511) -nolabel -geometry 32x20+0+0 -bg grey60 -update 5 ||-FvwmPager(512) 12 4 /tmp/fvwmrca00447 0 8 0 1 ||-nxterm(5297) || `-bash(5298) || `-su(5404) - ||`-bash(5405) ||-nxterm(6065) || `-bash(6066) ||-nxterm(9934) || `-bash(9935) || `-ssh(8012) -p23 pete |`-nxterm(32019) | `-bash(32022) | `-su(16642) - | `-bash(16643) |`-pstree(16662) -alnp |-xconsole(422) -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed `-netscape-commun(14290) /usr/doc/HTML/index.html `-netscape-commun(14299) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ps aef PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 416 ? S0:00 \_ -:0HOME=/ TERM=linux BOOT_IMAGE=linux AUTOBOOT=YES PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin RUNLEVEL=5 PREVLEVEL=N CONSOLE=/dev/console INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# top 55 processes: 54 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 5.2% user, 2.2% system, 0.0% nice, 92.7% idle Mem: 127924K av, 67892K used, 60032K free, 37516K shrd, 4968K buff Swap: 104384K av, 20K used, 104364K free 13804K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 413 root 0 0 840 840 724 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00 xdm 416 root 0 0 1856 1856 1360 S 0 0.0 1.4 0:00 xdm What's with the \_ -:0 command? well, here's the full ps, pstree, and top slice; [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# pstree -alnp init(1) |-(kflushd,2) |-(kswapd,3) |-kerneld(25) |-syslogd(188) |-klogd(197) |-atd(209) |-crond(220) |-portmap(231) |-inetd(254) |-named(265) |-routed(276) |-sshd(287) |-lpd(298) |-rpc.mountd(310) |-rpc.nfsd(319) |-rwhod(330) |-gpm(354) -t MouseSystems |-mingetty(405) tty1 |-mingetty(406) tty2 |-mingetty(407) tty3 |-mingetty(408) tty4 |-mingetty(409) tty5 |-mingetty(410) tty6 |-update(412) |-xdm(413) -nodaemon | |-X(415) -auth /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-a00413 | `-xdm(416) | `-fvwm2(427) -cmd FvwmM4\040-debug\040/etc/X11/AnotherLevel/fvwm2rc.m4 ||-FvwmTaskBar(507) 10 4 /tmp/fvwmrca00447 0 8 ||-FvwmButtons(508) 12 4 /tmp/fvwmrca00447 0 8 ||-nxterm(510) +ut -T darknesswithin.intr.net-Main -n Main ... || `-bash(513) || `-su(514) - ||`-bash(515) || `-pppd(6591) debug /dev/ttyS1 38400 connect ... ||-xload(511) -nolabel -geometry 32x20+0+0 -bg grey60 -update 5 ||-FvwmPager(512) 12 4 /tmp/fvwmrca00447 0 8 0 1 ||-nxterm(5297) || `-bash(5298) || `-su(5404) - ||`-bash(5405) ||-nxterm(6065) || `-bash(6066) ||-nxterm(9934) || `-bash(9935) || `-ssh(8012) -p23 pete |`-nxterm(32019) | `-bash(32022) | `-su(16642) - | `-bash(16643) |`-pstree(16662) -alnp |-xconsole(422) -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed `-netscape-commun(14290) /usr/doc/HTML/index.html `-netscape-commun(14299) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ps aef PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ? S5:48 init [5] HOME=/ TERM=linux BOOT_IMAGE=linux 2 ? SW 0:00 (kflushd) 3 ? SW 0:00 (kswapd) 25 ? S0:02 /sbin/kerneld INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.71 TERM=linux HOSTTYPE=i386 PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin CONSOLE=/dev/console HOME=/ PREVLEVEL=N RUNLEVEL=S SHELL=/bin/bash AUTOBOOT=YES BOOT_IMAGE=linux OSTYPE=Linux SHLVL=1 188 ? S0:03 syslogd INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.71 previous=N TERM=linux HOSTTYPE=i386 PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin CONSOLE=/dev/console HOME=/ PREVLEVEL=N RUNLEVEL=5 SHELL=/bin/bash runlevel=5 AUTOBOOT=YES BOOT_IMAGE=linux OSTYP 197 ? S0:00
Re: unattended ftp
You could write a script like: /home/foobar/ftp.script: user foobar foobars_password lcd /home/foobar get filename and then execute it whenyou want, or put it in cron... like this: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/foobar: 0 0 * * * ftp -n -i /home/foobar/ftp.script -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, A. M. Varon wrote: On 12 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: *-Rahul Sood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excuse if this is a FAQ, but how can I set up a shell script to ftp to a host and retrieve a file? wget. no shell script necessary to get a file. Handles anonymous and password protected FTP sites. regards, == == Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated == == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 == = == ==== == E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
XWindows -- checking color mode?
just wandering if anyone knows how you can check how many colors your display is set to while active (while in xwindows)? -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
RE: XWindows -- checking color mode?
much thanks! -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Shaleh wrote: run xdpyinfo in an xterm. On 12-Oct-98 Rob Collins wrote: just wandering if anyone knows how you can check how many colors your display is set to while active (while in xwindows)? -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12-Oct-98 Time: 16:46:10 This message was sent by XFMail -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Issues in switching to Debian
I currently run RH 5 on my P-Pro sys, and I want to switch to Debian. While I'm doing that, I figure I should also get a few cool programs I've seen, like KDE, Eterm, the GIMP (the install that comes in RH makes a very minimally useful program ... but I've seen great things with it, so there must be better versions), and Linux Explorer. There are issues I want to feel comfortable on b4 I bring my machine into work and try the ftp install (I've a 80lb. monitor, so I ain't gonna just take 'er in and try it): I have some components that are fairly unique (I've 2 sound cards, only one could be supported (SB64), a 12*12 Wacom drawing tablet I use as my only pointing device, and a Jaz). Should I get these drivers again, and backup the config files I had to use? ...and a fairly larger problem: I've discovered I have a virus on my machine. I figure I can get rid of the virus by loading up and disinfecting it in Windows95 (blech) -- but it may or may not be infecting my Linux installation (it -appears- to load as a child process to xdm on init)... b4 I do any install I want to know that I've disinfected my system, but don't know how to go about that in Linux. Any help is greatly appreciated. :) -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann
Re: Issues in switching to Debian
It disabled writing to my floppy disk, for one thing. The ppid points to xdm. In fact, in top it reports its command line value as xdm instead of (what you see in ps) -:0... which I figure is garbage. Not that I'm an expert, but from what I gather, it is (at least) an MBR virus, and therefore I'd expect just about anything would detect it (I'll borrow some Anti-virus software and try it tonight). But what this thing has done, if anything, to my linux partitions (and lilo, of course, has to be shot) is the issue I see as most important right now. -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Wayne Cuddy wrote: What makes you think this is a virus? I don't think you would be able to disinfect a Linux virus with 95. What is the process that is loading? On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Rob Collins wrote: ...and a fairly larger problem: I've discovered I have a virus on my machine. I figure I can get rid of the virus by loading up and disinfecting it in Windows95 (blech) -- but it may or may not be infecting my Linux installation (it -appears- to load as a child process to xdm on init)... b4 I do any install I want to know that I've disinfected my system, but don't know how to go about that in Linux. Any help is greatly appreciated. :) -- quiet rob --- Just keep telling yourself you are immortal --Albert Hofmann -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Wayne Cuddy CRB-WEB (C H Consulting) http://www.crb-web.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
