Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-28 Thread Russell Gadd

On 28/11/16 12:30, Richard Hector wrote:

...


nas doesn't recognise login as authorised user

Turns out this was the issue - problem solved.For some reason the 
interactive successful use of ssh must have used my non-root users key 
even when run by (su) root in a graphical terminal. I needed to send a 
root public key to the NAS to get it to accept the connection when run 
from the daemon. /root/.ssh/authorized_keys in the NAS (running some 
version of Linux) only had the normal user public key.


Thanks to all for the replies.



Re: How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-27 Thread Russell Gadd

On 27/11/16 13:00, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:

...
What user runs the daemon? If it is a separate user then run the ssh
with that user interactively. If the user does not have the
~/.ssh/known_hosts file or the destination host is not in it, then you
will have problems.


I've now discovered that the daemon is run by root.

As I said in my post the ssh command does run successfully when run 
interactively "but if I run the ssh command interactively from the usual 
graphical terminal (as root) it shuts down the NAS". 
/root/.ssh/known_hosts does exist. As it does work interactively, 
presumably root must have the correct entries in the known_hosts file.


One problem is that when the daemon runs the script the ssh command 
fails and I don't know if there was any error message, and if so where 
to find any error messages after I reboot.




How to get ssh to run in daemon script

2016-11-27 Thread Russell Gadd
I am trying to add a command into a script to shut down my NAS when the 
UPS detects a power loss. There is a daemon apcupsd which gets a signal 
from the UPS and runs various scripts which can be modified by the user.


I have a script doshutdown as follows

#!/bin/sh
 ... various messages and sleep delays
/usr/bin/ssh root@nasbox poweroff
 ... more messages and sleep delays

The ssh command in my script does not run in a power off test 
(everything else in the script works i.e. the messages and delays), but 
if I run the ssh command interactively from the usual graphical terminal 
(as root) it shuts down the NAS, so the NAS isn't stopping it working 
assuming its getting the appropriate handshaking from ssh.


My knowledge of how to get daemon scripts working and how to use ssh is 
almost nil. Also I can't find a way to get any error output which the 
ssh command might be issuing. I've tried enclosing the body of the 
script in brackets to redirect output to files:

{
} > /data/temp/shutdown-out.txt 2> /data/temp/shutdown-err.txt

I've looked in syslog, kern.log and auth.log without finding anything.

So I'm scrambling around in the dark. Currently my vague ideas as to 
what might be wrong are:


script doesn't know what nasbox is (it is defined in /etc/hosts)
ssh is being run without being associated as root
ssh cannot find root's keys
nas doesn't recognise login as authorised user

I'm also starting to think I am stressing the UPS too much by running 
too many power off tests, so I'd like to resolve this without too much 
more experimentation.


Grateful for any suggestions. I'm running Linux Mint 17.3 (based on 
Ubuntu 14.04, based on Jessie). Uses openssh (1:6.6p1-2ubuntu2.8)




Re: User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-24 Thread Russell Gadd

On 24/03/16 00:30, David Wright wrote:

...

I don't know what you mean by   "login" script   because you haven't
yet told us (I believe) what your machine is configured to do when
you boot it up. If you've installed some sort of Desktop Environment,
then the DE has the responsibility of selecting the shell that runs
your   "login" script   and, indeed, what the filename of that script
is.


You're right - I didn't explicitly tell you that my desktop environment 
is Mate which I chose when I installed Debian recently. There's a 
"Control Centre" which has a GUI application "Startup Applications" 
which is pre-populated by items such as "GPG Password Agent", "Mate 
Settings Daemon", "Pulse Audio", etc. You can add your own item by 
specifying name and command. This is where I added a bash script I wrote 
which I called "Login" which is located in ~/bin. All my other scripts 
in there are run in a Mate terminal or via a launcher icon on the 
desktop, and in both cases they use the path set up in ~/.bashrc.


Anyway, thanks for the information (including the existence of dash). 
Unfortunately I don't have time to delve deeper into this now as I have 
another project that has reared its head, so I'd ask you not to spend 
any more of your time responding, as I will not revisit this thread. And 
thanks to all other responders for their efforts.




Re: User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-22 Thread Russell Gadd

On 22/03/16 20:20, Seeker wrote:

...

Create '~/.xprofile' and put your export commands and extra non-desktop
specific stuff you
  always want to run there.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xprofile

Later, Seeker


Thanks. I might try this later.



Re: User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-22 Thread Russell Gadd

On 22/03/16 19:00, The Wanderer wrote:

... 

How did you test? By launching a new terminal (with bash set as your
default shell), by running the command 'bash' in an existing terminal,
by logging all of the way out (to the main login prompt, if not to a
full reboot) and then logging back in, or by running the command 'bash
--login' in an existing terminal?

In my testing just now, only the latter two of these four will pick up
the new ~/.profile file; the other two seem to run the commands which
were present in the file which their parent bash session used. (Strictly
speaking I didn't test the full logout or reboot, but I fully expect
that that would pick up the changes.)


Also, at least on my system, ~/.bashrc is invoked only by being sourced
from ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile. Unless your system is configured
fairly differently, if ~/.bashrc is getting run, that means that - per
bash(1) - one of ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, or ~/.profile must be
invoking it.

I tested by rebooting each time. My ~/.bashrc is sourced from ~/.profile 
which itself is sourced from .bash_profile, but neither of them run the 
echo command I've added so I would assume the ~/.bashrc which runs when 
I open a Mate terminal is started some other way.


bash --login does invoke ~./bash_profile and hence ~./profile as the 
echos are seen in the output file (in the expected order), but I must 
admit the nature of login shells / non-login / interactive shells, etc 
is a bit beyond my experience. I've never tried bash --login before as I 
haven't previously come across it.


Maybe what this is telling me is that I should run another script from 
my "login" script by 'bash --login real_login_scriptfile' in order to 
get these profiles to run first?




Re: User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-22 Thread Russell Gadd

On 22/03/16 02:40, David Christensen wrote:

...

Did you remember the 'export' in .profile?

 export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin


It might help to add echo's in the various scripts to check the order in
which they run -- e.g. verify that .bash_profile runs before your bash
login script, so that PATH includes $HOME/bin.



Thanks for the export point which I have now used. However it doesn't 
solve the problem.


I experimented by adding the following line into ~/.bash_profile, 
~/.profile and ~/.bashrc:

echo "This is " &>>/tmp/out.txt

Neither of the profile files triggered the output, nor did .bashrc until 
I manually opened a Mate terminal from the desktop. So it appears that 
the profile files do not get invoked at any time.


I've even tried changing the PATH which is set at the top of 
/etc/profile, but this doesn't work either, so it looks like profile 
files are ignored altogether.




User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-21 Thread Russell Gadd
The bash login script I have added in to my startup programs does not 
recognise /home/user/bin as part of the path, whereas it used to when I 
was running Linux Mint (I'm a recent refugee). I've got 
PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" in ~/.bashrc and also in ~/.profile, together 
with a ~/.bash_profile which sources ~/.profile. I've no idea whether 
all these are necessary - they do work to search my bin in a script run 
in the Mate terminal but not in the login script. It's not a big deal as 
I can prepend the absolute path in the login script, although I assume 
this means also doing it in sourced scripts within the login script, so 
I'd like to know if there's a clean way to set this up.




Re: Thin Mate window edges

2016-03-10 Thread Russell Gadd

On 03/03/16 22:30, Siard wrote:

...

After restarting Mate, you will see that windows have wider borders,
so that's an improvement at least.
But they can be made even wider if desired.
As root, edit usr/share/themes/Spidey/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml.
You will see these lines near the beginning:


   
   
   

Changing '3' to a higher number, most important for right_width and
bottom_height, will widen those borders.

Thanks - works ok. The actual edge of the frame doesn't change but the 
bit immediately inside increases and the mouse pointer is sensitive to 
this part, so the end result is a larger target for grabbing.




Thin Mate window edges

2016-03-02 Thread Russell Gadd
I have just installed Jessie with the Mate desktop. My screen is 1920 x
1080. I find grabbing the edges or corner of a window with the mouse
pointer in order to extend it is very fiddly. Is this due to the border
being very thin? Are there any options to make this easier, such as
choosing a window style with thicker borders?


NAS no longer mounting at boot

2012-02-23 Thread Russell Gadd
I have this in /etc/fstab
//nasbox/dataNAS /mnt/dataNAS cifs
rw,user,exec,iocharset=utf8,user=xyz,password=xxx,uid=1000,gid=1000

Up to recently it used to mount at boot time but doesn't any more. I
assume some update changed things. Unfortunately I only use this
system once or twice a week and I noticed it a week or so ago, so I
can't tell you exactly when this behaviour started. Can't see anything
obvious in dmesg (but then I'm not particularly clued up on Debian).

If I use mount -a at a root terminal the NAS mounts ok, so it's not
a show-stopper but is a bit annoying to do this manually at each boot.

Any clues would be appreciated.


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Fwd: How to refresh Nautilus file view.

2011-12-20 Thread Russell Gadd

 How is the mount point set? Dynamically or statically?

Sorry not sure what you mean by Dynamically or statically?. I have a
line in fstab as follows:

//nasbox/dataNAS /mnt/nas cifs
rw,user,exec,iocharset=utf8,user=xxx,password=xxx,uid=1000,gid=1000

(not sure if all these options are strictly needed or correct but the
mount is ok)

 Does Ctrl+R (reload) do the trick? If not, how about closing/opening
 Nautilus? Or just by relogin?

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón


No none of this works. It's not just Nautilus because the ls command
in the Gnome terminal also fails to see the nas.

Russell


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How to refresh Nautilus file view.

2011-12-17 Thread Russell Gadd
I have just set up a NAS box and sometimes it comes up from sleep too
late for Nautilus to see it so when I look for it in Nautilus the
mounted drive isn't there, I just see the folder where it should be
mounted. I'm sure it is mounted since I can check this with the mount
command, although if using the Gnome terminal I still can't see it
with a ls command. I can reboot and it will be ok. I wondered if
there's a quicker way to get Nautilus/Gnome to refresh its view of
this.


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USB stick no longer automounting at boot

2011-06-07 Thread Russell Gadd
I have today set up a new installation of Linux Mint and it is
exhibiting the same symptoms as my installation of Squeeze as follows
- I have a USB stick permanently plugged in (for backup purposes) and
when the system boots the stick is not mounted. When I first installed
it mounted ok and I could see it on the desktop, but now I have to
physically unplug and replug the stick to get the system to mount it.
I think this behaviour may have occurred after I installed a trial
version of NOD32 antivirus for Linux (on both systems), but I'm not
certain. I stopped NOD32 from starting at boot but this doesn't make
any difference, so I don't know if that is the cause or maybe some
other software update. Any ideas would be welcome.

My knowledge is pretty elementary at this level but I have run the
following 2 commands to check that the device is recognised:

fdisk -l reveals:

Disk /dev/sdb: 4076 MB, 4076863488 bytes
166 heads, 54 sectors/track, 888 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8964 * 512 = 4589568 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   1 889 3981288c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(495, 165, 54) logical=(888, 47, 54)

also blkid gives:

/dev/sdb1: LABEL=ISISBACK UUID=D743-AC68 TYPE=vfat


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Re: GRUB GRUB black screen

2011-05-15 Thread Russell Gadd
On 14 May 2011 21:48, tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 snip - see above posts


 Maybe LILO's simpler design can be a good choice in many situations,
 where grub fanciness (and complexity) isn't needed.

 Glad you solved it somehow in the end.


Thanks for your interesting discussion. I appreciate that grub2 would
do a lot for some people and I hope it matures into something which is
more easily usable in my simpler situation. Meanwhile I'll have a look
at LILO - I have already asked about it in another post.


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Re: Switch to LILO from Grub2 ?

2011-05-15 Thread Russell Gadd
On 14 May 2011 21:59, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 snip - see previous post for more

 This will definitely not work.  LILO stores the location of kernels
 (their sectors on the disk) in a map file, and if you move those around
 it won't be able to find them anymore.

 Also I'd like to avoid using UUIDs - I think this will be necessary if
 I am to achieve 2 above.

 You could also use labels, but device names can obviously not be used in
 that situation.  Beware that both with UUIDs and labels your old
 partition is likely to be used unless you delete or reformat it.

 Sven


Thanks Sven, most useful. I had a look at the website I mentioned
which gives a LILO guide and if I decide to delve more into one of the
boot loaders it looks like LILO will probably be more manageable for
me. However at present I'll spend my time on other tasks and take the
easy way out and reinstall the system where necessary.


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GRUB GRUB black screen

2011-05-14 Thread Russell Gadd
One of my operating systems (a version of Debian Squeeze) is now
refusing to boot. It just shows a black screen with the 2 words GRUB
GRUB in the top left hand corner. I wonder if anyone has seen this
sort of behaviour before?

More background: I have multiple operating systems on my PC which can
be selected by means of a boot manager (BootitNG), including 3
versions of Debian Squeeze, Linux Mint and Windows 7. The boot manager
resides in the master boot record and when I select an OS to run it
sets up the master boot record for the selected OS, then passes
control to Grub located in the root partition. This has been working
without problem for some months (years in the case of Debian Lenny,
with the original Grub).

At first I suspected a hardware fault, but the other Debian works ok.
In fact all the other OS's do, with one exception - Kubuntu. In fact I
had just installed Kubuntu 64 bit so I suspect its possible this had
something to do with the problem. Kubuntu ran ok on its first bootup
but now on trying to boot into it for a second time it boots but
doesn't complete booting. (I only installed it out of curiosity and I
have now deleted it from the system)

However the problem is strange. My boot manager is also able to take
an image of a partition and I restored the image of the failed Debian
Squeeze system from a known good copy, but to no avail.

I use a common swap partition for all my Linuxes, and I have 3 other
partitions (2 drives) for data which all OS's have access to. Each
Linux has its own additional tmp partition. I wondered about some
issue with the common swap partition but my other 3 Linuxes (two
Debian one Mint) are using it with no problem.

I wondered whether Kubuntu has somehow altered some BIOS setting but I
can't see any changes - also the other Debian isn't affected. Or maybe
it has subtly changed something which GRUB uses to identify the UUIDs.

Any ideas would be very welcome.


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Switch to LILO from Grub2 ?

2011-05-14 Thread Russell Gadd
I have had a number of problems with using grub2 (running Debian
Squeeze) and am thinking of switching to LILO. I'd like to achieve
these objectives:

1. use a boot manager (BootitNG) in the MBR which will set up the
required partition table and pass control to LILO located in the root
partition of the OS to be run.
2. image the root partition to a file, then restore the image to a
different location on the hard drive in order to clone the system.
When I used grub-legacy to do this I didn't have to change anything
for it to boot ok but grub2 won't do this (hence my reason for trying
LILO).

Also I'd like to avoid using UUIDs - I think this will be necessary if
I am to achieve 2 above.

Any comments on the feasibility of the above, or other issues would be
most welcome.

I have found a guide here, which I intend to use, but I thought I'd
ask the above general questions first:
http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm


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Re: Cannot set preferred application

2011-02-21 Thread Russell Gadd

On 20/02/11 17:40, Russell Gadd wrote:

snip


I've filed a bug report now


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Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old machines for firewall/router use)

2011-02-21 Thread Russell Gadd
There is effectively a list reply feature in gmail. Hit Reply to all
and debian-user@lists.debian.org appears in the cc field. For this
reply I have removed the To address and just kept the cc address.

However I use Icedove for newsgroups and also a gmail account where I
automatically archive the debian user posts. This allows me to use the
gmail search feature if I want to look for something. If I find it
with gmail I can reply there or jump into Icedove to find the thread.

I find Icedove's search is poor, and if you find a post to view it
opens in a new window rather than finding it in the main window where
the thread could be seen.

Russell

On 21 February 2011 06:57, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 On 02/21/2011 12:17 AM, Peter Tynan wrote:

 On Sun, 20 Feb 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:

 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:54:27 -0600
 From: Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: To gmail or not to gmail (was Re: Fwd: selecting old
 machines for
 firewall/router use)
 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:54:49 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 I keep my current D-User folder (relatively) small by having
 maildrop filter emails into quarterly folders.


 Does that not make searching a pain in the posterior?


 A bit.

 (It just occurred to me that such filtering isn't useful with gmail... )

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 The normal condition of mankind is tyranny and misery.
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Re: Cannot set preferred application

2011-02-21 Thread Russell Gadd

On 21/02/11 15:00, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:56:21 +, Russell Gadd wrote:


On 20/02/11 19:30, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:16:12 +, Russell Gadd wrote:

(...)


So I now try right clicking on the file and choose Open with Other
Application, choose audacious and tick the box which says Remember
this appliction for MP3 audio files. Ok so it opens this time. I
close audacious and then click on another MP3 file and it opens
(briefly) with Movie Player.

Is there a setting somewhere I can tweak or is this a bug to report?


Hum... have you tried by right-clicking over the mp3 file, select
properties, go to Open with tab and pick from there the app?

Many ways to do the same thing :-)




?? This is precisely what my paragraph meant. It doesn't persist.


Nope, both steps are different and lead to different options.

Hint: did you select properties when you right-clicked over the icon?

Greetings,

Oh boy that is very subtle. Ok thanks this solved my problem, although 
the other way, using Open With directly, said that the selection would 
persist so this is surely a fault. Also the preference can't be set in 
the System Preferences. I found a bug report which said much the same 
thing for a different type of file so I added my 2 pennorth to this bug 
report re MP3 files. I will revisit that bug report to add this workaround.


In any event, thanks again.

Russell


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Cannot set preferred application

2011-02-20 Thread Russell Gadd
I'm trying to change the default application which is used to play MP3 
files in Gnome. Currently the default application for multimedia player 
is Totem Movie Player. I know its not a movie but when I click on an MP3 
file in Nautilus it tries for a split second to use Movie Player then 
quits. If I change this to Rhythmbox in System Preferences Preferred 
applications it ignores the setting. If I try to use a custom setting 
(I tried /usr/bin/audacious %s) this is also ignored.


So I now try right clicking on the file and choose Open with Other 
Application, choose audacious and tick the box which says Remember 
this appliction for MP3 audio files. Ok so it opens this time. I close 
audacious and then click on another MP3 file and it opens (briefly) with 
Movie Player.


Is there a setting somewhere I can tweak or is this a bug to report?


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Re: Cannot set preferred application

2011-02-20 Thread Russell Gadd

On 20/02/11 19:30, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:16:12 +, Russell Gadd wrote:

(...)


So I now try right clicking on the file and choose Open with Other
Application, choose audacious and tick the box which says Remember
this appliction for MP3 audio files. Ok so it opens this time. I close
audacious and then click on another MP3 file and it opens (briefly) with
Movie Player.

Is there a setting somewhere I can tweak or is this a bug to report?


Hum... have you tried by right-clicking over the mp3 file, select
properties, go to Open with tab and pick from there the app?

Many ways to do the same thing :-)

Greetings,



?? This is precisely what my paragraph meant. It doesn't persist.


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Re: Moderation robot problem - can't post from Thunderbird

2011-02-16 Thread Russell Gadd

On 15/02/11 17:00, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On Ter, 15 Fev 2011, Russell Gadd wrote:


I'm having a problem with the moderation robot. I am a member of this
list - joined via googlemail. However I use Thunderbird to view the
newsgroup but when I try to use it to reply to a post the robot throws
it out as follows:

--

linux.debian.user is a moderated newsgroup in gateway
with a mailing list.

Your article has been examined by the automatic moderation program
and has been refused because:

this hierarchy accepts posts only from registered users.
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linux-g...@lists.bofh.it
mailing list. You can do so by sending a message with subscribe in the
body at the linux-gate-requ...@lists.bofh.it address or by visiting
http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate .


For more information about the linux.* hierarchy please read the FAQ
at http://www.linux.it/~md/linux-faq

Virtually your,
The Moderation Robot.

--- Follows the first few lines of your article 

...etc
--


It's inconvenient since I have to go back to the webmail service, find
the post and reply there. Not a big deal but annoying. What could I do
to get by the robot?


That message is not from the debian list itself, but from the gateway
service you are using.

You can post directly to debian-user@lists.debian.org, which has no
moderation and requires no subscription for posting.

If you want to use this gateway, have you tried the instructions in the
message?


Thanks for the response. I didn't know I was using a gateway. All I know 
is that I signed up to Usenet-News.net to be able to access newsgroups 
and I can download these without problem in Icedove. I signed up via my 
gmail email service. If I post by sending an email using the web 
interface of gmail to debian-user@lists.debian.org (such as this message 
I am now writing) it gets into the newsgroup. If I use the Icedove 
interface I get this response from a moderation robot. I have no idea 
who http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate; is and how I get routed 
through them.


Icedove sends messages out via my ISP's SMTP server - maybe it's they 
who are routing it through this gateway. I'll try changing the outgoing 
server to google's SMTP if I can, before I post this and see if that 
works. If it does I'll post again.



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Re: Moderation robot problem - can't post from Thunderbird

2011-02-16 Thread Russell Gadd

On 16/02/11 17:10, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On Qua, 16 Fev 2011, Russell Gadd wrote:

Thanks for the response. I didn't know I was using a gateway. All I
know is that I signed up to Usenet-News.net to be able to access
newsgroups and I can download these without problem in Icedove. I
signed up via my gmail email service. If I post by sending an email
using the web interface of gmail to debian-user@lists.debian.org (such
as this message I am now writing) it gets into the newsgroup. If I use
the Icedove interface I get this response from a moderation robot. I
have no idea who http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate; is and how
I get routed through them.


debian-user is a mailing list, not a usenet newsgroup. One sends
messages o the list's email address, and everybody that is subscribed
receives the messages in their email addresses.

To where do you send emails that return?

There are some gateway services that allows reading via nntp (that is,
as if it were a newsgroup). They generally need some special steps for
posting, however. Going to the page
http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate, it states that After
subscribing to this mailing list you will be able to post articles to
the linux.* hierarchy moderated newsgroups. So it seems if you
subscribe to that list you'll be able to post to debian-user.


Icedove sends messages out via my ISP's SMTP server - maybe it's they
who are routing it through this gateway. I'll try changing the
outgoing server to google's SMTP if I can, before I post this and see
if that works. If it does I'll post again.


I don't think that will help. But posting directly to debian-user, or
subscribing to that list probably will.


Altering the outgoing SMTP worked, as you can see since you replied to 
the message I sent via Icedove. I didn't want to use the linux-gate 
route as it seemed that this way I would have to sign up for multiple 
accounts for different groups. And in any case I didn't know anything 
about them which makes me a little uneasy.


The difference between a mailing list and a usenet newsgroup seems to be 
irrelevant in this context since both types are available from the 
Usenet-News.net service and I can now reply to messages in either. It 
seems there aren't any special steps to posting if I use the googlemail 
SMTP.


Thanks for your efforts, your responses have helped me to understand 
more about this.



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Moderation robot problem - can't post from Thunderbird

2011-02-15 Thread Russell Gadd
I'm having a problem with the moderation robot. I am a member of this
list - joined via googlemail. However I use Thunderbird to view the
newsgroup but when I try to use it to reply to a post the robot throws
it out as follows:

--
linux.debian.user is a moderated newsgroup in gateway
with a mailing list.

Your article has been examined by the automatic moderation program
and has been refused because:

this hierarchy accepts posts only from registered users.
You can register for posting by subscribing to the linux-g...@lists.bofh.it
mailing list. You can do so by sending a message with subscribe in the
body at the linux-gate-requ...@lists.bofh.it address or by visiting
http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate .


For more information about the linux.* hierarchy please read the FAQ
at http://www.linux.it/~md/linux-faq

Virtually your,
The Moderation Robot.

--- Follows the first few lines of your article 

...etc
--

It's inconvenient since I have to go back to the webmail service, find
the post and reply there. Not a big deal but annoying. What could I do
to get by the robot?


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Relocating Squeeze partition

2011-02-13 Thread Russell Gadd
With Lenny I am able to take an image of a partition with an external
imaging tool and rewrite it to a different location on the (first)
hard drive. In this configuration I have a proprietary bootloader
(BootitNG) in the MBR with Grub in the Lenny partition. My main
objective is to clone a new install to run each for distinct purposes
which I want to keep entirely separate.

After installing Squeeze this does not work. On trying to boot in the
new location I just get a black screen with the word GRUB in the top
corner. I think the main differences with Lenny are that I have Grub2
instead of Grub, ext4 instead of ext3 and UUIDs instead of /dev/sdxn
in fstab. Both systems are AMD64.

I don't know where the problem(s) lie. Is it reasonably possible to
adjust settings somewhere to accomplish this relocation? If it's not
reasonably straightforward I guess I'll just have to reinstall and
retweak in the new location.

(After relocating I could boot into the original Squeeze system and
then mount the new Squeeze root partition in order to make changes.)


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Re: Relocating Squeeze partition

2011-02-13 Thread Russell Gadd
I noticed this in /etc/default/grub:
# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true

Perhaps uncommenting this as well as not using UUIDs in fstab might do it?


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Fwd: Relocating Squeeze partition

2011-02-13 Thread Russell Gadd
On 13 February 2011 10:54, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
 With Lenny I am able to take an image of a partition with an external
 imaging tool and rewrite it to a different location on the (first)
 hard drive. In this configuration I have a proprietary bootloader
 (BootitNG) in the MBR with Grub in the Lenny partition.

 Let me get this straight. You installed Squeeze and then cloned it to
 another partition? Where does the Lenny partition come in?

Sorry, I now see I haven't explained it properly. BootitNG inserts
itself in the boot sequence and from its own separate data stored in a
small 8MB area of the drive loads the partition table with up to 4
primary partitions of your choice from up to 255 which you can create
on the hard drive, and then passes control to the OS (i.e. Grub) in
one of the 4 partitions. From that point, the other partitions not
in the partition table are treated as just unallocated space which you
just have to be careful to avoid trying to use. So my Lenny partition
is invisible to the Squeeze system and can be treated as non-existent.
So when I boot mySqueeze system I have a partition table with only one
entry for that drive (in practice there's another partition containing
data which I use for all the systems).

 Cloning a partition will give you two partitions with identical UUIDs. This
 will confuse Grub2 to no end. It will also confuse your fstab.Use tune2fs
 and blkid to set that right.

So there aren't 2 identical partitions. However prompted by your
suggestion I've done more Google digging and have concluded that the
UUID is constructed by an algorithm which uses the position of the
partition in the disk (which I haven't actually seen stated anywhere,
maybe it's too obvious?). So this would mean that cloning a partition
would effectively change the UUID. It looks like this might be my
problem as the bit for bit contents of the partition cloned are
identical, i.e. the fstab entries would be pointing to an area of the
disc which is no longer a partition as defined by the changed
partition table. I tried replacing the UUIDs in fstab with /dev/sda1
type entries which got me further: grub2 booted, but then somewhere in
its initialisation the OS complained about errors in the filesystems,
and threw me out to a command prompt. It seems that Squeeze stores the
entries in the partition table somewhere and doesn't expect them to
change after a reboot. Or maybe it's using the old UUIDs somewhere
else other than fstab. It wasn't a problem with the Lenny system.


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Squeeze Beta 2 upgrade

2011-02-02 Thread Russell Gadd
Hopefully a simple question to answer. I installed Squeeze beta 2
AMD64 a few weeks ago and have accepted all updates. If I continue to
take the updates will it morph into the release version when that is
released or is it advisable to reinstall the final release?


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Kernel bug in Squeeze

2011-01-13 Thread Russell Gadd
I have had 2 freezes recently with a kernel bug reported on the
screen. One was at the end of shutdown (on a reboot) and the other
just now on bootup (not the same reboot). I had a look in syslog for
some info but I suspect that the output wasn't able to be added due to
the system halting. I don't know if there's any other place the output
could have been saved.

Also how/where could I report this bug?


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Reportbug failure

2010-12-22 Thread Russell Gadd
I'm trying to report a bug in gedit and ran reportbug, opting for the
gtk interface. I looked at existing bug reports and none seemed
relevant so I proceeded to create one. After inputting the bug title
and selecting the severity rating (normal) the application quits. When
I look for the report it doesn't exist, so I presume it didn't file a
report. In any case I'd have expected a few more questions would have
been necessary.

I saw this message in Dmesg:
 reportbug[11151] trap divide error ip:7f8355eedcf0 sp:7f834e960f60
error:0 in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7f8355dc1000+415000]

Also when first installing and setting up, after its first use,
invoked from the command line, after it quit the following was
reported on the command line:

Default preferences file written. To reconfigure, re-run reportbug with the --
configure option.
**
Gdk:ERROR:/scratch/build-area/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gdk/gdkregion-generic.c:1108:miUnionNonO:
assertion failed: (y1  y2)
**
Gdk:ERROR:/scratch/build-area/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gdk/gdkregion-generic.c:1108:miUnionNonO:
assertion failed: (y1  y2)
Aborted

Trying to run it from the gui menus the app fails as above, but I then
tried it by invoking it from the command line, which appeared to
complete (as far as I know but I haven't used this system before).
However searching for the bug in the bug report tracking system I
couldn't find it (searched for gedit bugs with the word tab in as my
title was fails to use tab preference when loading file )

I then tried to run it again from the command line and got a lot of
errors. Each time I run it I get different errors, too numerous to
report.

Please advise on what to do next.


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Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
I would like to compile a GTK+ application from source (hitori-0.2.5)
so that I can play with the source code. I followed the instructions
up to ./configure which reports missing packages:
No package 'glib-2.0' found
No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
No package 'gmodule-2.0' found
No package 'cairo' found

This wasn't a surprise although using Synaptic or aptitude I can't
find packages with these exact names but there are various libraries,
etc. with related names. Trying to install one of these I get
unresolved dependencies and a suggestion to check the repositories. It
seems I've got a long path ahead of me so I think I should start with
a clean system. At present I use Lenny (AMD64) with a couple of
backports (maybe  they are part of the problem), although I do
multiboot several OS's and I can install another easily. So I think I
may install another OS just for this project (which will keep my day
to day system intact). I'd like to ask for suggestions as to what OS,
preferably some flavour of Debian, perhaps the current Squeeze?

Any other suggestions gratefully welcomed, particularly where to start reading.


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Fwd: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
On 16 December 2010 08:14,  teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:

 

 One thing I may suggest is look into the use of virtual machines for 
 something like this. You can install and run the OS of your choosing in a 
 window ontop of your main system,

 This has the advantages of sandboxing your experiments, having access to your 
 running and stable normal environment at the same time as experimenting, and 
 save hard disk space in unfilled partitions.

 It also won't affect your stable installs should something go terribly wrong.

 Your main disadvantage is your essentially running two OS's at the same time 
 so eats ram resources like crazy, and may not be an effective true test of 
 system intensive programs given the weight of all the extra stuff on the proc.

 Oricle's Virtual Box is a good simple to use Virtulization software if your 
 interested.

 Hope it helps;
 TeddyB

I have in mind to look into virtualisation sometime but at present I
am up to speed with multibooting. I take snapshots (compressed images)
of the partitions so I can recover a borked system easily. I use
BootitNG (learnt this when I was only using Windows) and it works very
well. When running any OS it can't see the main partitions of the
other OS's (they appear as unused disc space). I have a common data
partition on which I store the images (amongst other stuff). Also disc
space is abundant as I don't have much in the way of music or video.

My intention to try virtualisation is more to do with security -
running a browser in an effective sandbox. If I use a new OS for my
project I can still access the rest of its facilities e.g. use the
internet. Switching to using my PC for other purposes does require a
reboot but I'm not planning to try to do anything else whilst I'm
playing with this project.

Also I have a slight concern about how effective the virtualisation
sandboxing would be against some flaw in memory management due to
errors in my coding changes

Anyway thanks for your thoughts, appreciate the ideas.


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Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
On 16 December 2010 08:41, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
  (see above post)

Thanks Sven, you have confirmed with useful detail the vague ideas I had.


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Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
On 16 December 2010 17:53, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 snip

 Hint: APT'S 'build-dep' makes this easy.  Since this is already in
 Squeeze then if you were running squeeze you could install all of the
 build dependencies for that version by using apt.

  $ sudo apt-get build-dep hitori

Thanks, most useful to know.

 That will automatically install any build dependencies onto your
 system that it doesn't otherwise have installed.  Then you can build
 from source normally.  And additionally you can rebuild the version
 from squeeze easily too.

  $ apt-get source hitori
  $ cd hitori-0.2.3
  $ debuild -uc -us  # From the devscripts package.

Again, thanks. I've just completed an install of Squeeze now so will
try all this. Actually I'm using AMD64 again (same as my Lenny).
Thought of using X86 to be safe but I figured that if 64 bit
graphics work ok it shouldn't be an issue. Or is this too naive?

 You might also want to build your own source too but seeing how the
 Debian maintainer builds it is often useful.  Then you can learn from
 it and apply to your own custom build.

Exactly! At present I'm assuming I can just add to the source and keep
all else the same, provided I don't add anything materially different
in the way it behaves. If all goes well I can then maybe look at
building my own. I'm interested in also looking at other 2D Sudoku
variants. Hopefully if I can master one type I should have a template
for others. My main interest is in the solution algorithms rather than
the graphics side, but I'd want to have the ability to modify the
presentation and user interaction so I need to understand how this is
put together.

Russell


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Lenny backports installation of one package only

2010-10-07 Thread Russell Gadd
I am trying to update my iceweasel via Lenny backports but it wants to also
update my gnucash which I don't want. What am I doing wrong?

I follow the instructions as follows:
Add backports to sources.list (actually added a file to sources.list.d). It
shows up in Synaptic repositories so looks ok

# aptitude update
# aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgoffice-0-common libgoffice-0-4 libsilc-1.1-2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  gnucash gnucash-common iceweasel-l10n-en-gb libaqbanking-data
libaqbanking29
  libaqbanking29-plugins libaqbanking29-plugins-qt libaqhbci17
libaqofxconnect5
  libcairo2 libglib2.0-0 libgoffice-0-6 libgoffice-0-6-common
libgwenhywfar47
  libmozjs2d libnss3-1d libpixman-1-0 libqbanking8 libsqlite3-0
xulrunner-1.9.1
Suggested packages:
  ttf-lyx latex-xft-fonts xfonts-mathml ttf-mathematica4.1 xprint mozplugger
  gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar47-dbg libcanberra0
Recommended packages:
  libglib2.0-data
The following NEW packages will be installed
  libaqbanking29 libaqbanking29-plugins libaqbanking29-plugins-qt
libaqhbci17
  libaqofxconnect5 libgoffice-0-6 libgoffice-0-6-common libmozjs2d
libqbanking8
  xulrunner-1.9.1
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gnucash gnucash-common iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-en-gb libaqbanking-data
  libcairo2 libglib2.0-0 libgwenhywfar47 libnss3-1d libpixman-1-0
libsqlite3-0
11 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 102 not upgraded.
Need to get 27.8MB of archives.
After this operation, 41.1MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.


Suggestions gratefully received


Re: Lenny backports installation of one package only

2010-10-07 Thread Russell Gadd
Thanks Bob. I'm having some trouble with parts of your response as follows:


 What is in your /etc/apt/preferences file?


I don't have such a file in /etc/apt


 What is the relative versions shown here:

  $ apt-cache policy gnucash


# apt-cache policy gnucash
gnucash:
  Installed: 2.2.6-2
  Candidate: 2.2.6-2
  Version table:
 2.2.9-7~bpo50+1 0
  1 http://backports.debian.org lenny-backports/main Packages
 *** 2.2.6-2 0
500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org lenny/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status



 Because backports is set up with a repository pinning of
 NotAutomatic: yes in the Release file it shouldn't be wanting to
 upgrade your existing packages automatically.  Here is a reference.


What reference?


 Personally I set up /etc/apt/preferences as specified.

  http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index3h2

 I can't see any reference to preferences in this site
(sorry if I'm missing something obvious)


 But if gnucash is newer than Lenny but older than backports then it
 will fall into the case where it will want to upgrade to the newer
 version in backports.

 Sorry don't understand this.

Please bear with my ignorance and thanks for the help.

Russell


Re: Lenny backports installation of one package only

2010-10-07 Thread Russell Gadd

  What reference?

 This reference.  The reference I included.

  http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index3h2



Ok I didn't associate this part with what I was trying to do.




 I would try first one then the other:

 1. Use Roman Khomasuridze's suggestion:
if you want to upgrade only iceweasel, then run
 apt-get install iceweasel/lenny-backports
   by this, apt will try to install iceweasel from backports but will try
 to
   match its dependencies from lenny. it worked for me...

 2. Install the /etc/apt/preferences file as recommended.  That will
   change the pinning rules.

 Bob


Doing some further investigation it looks like it may be unsafe to install a
later version of iceweasel as it seems to require a later version of a
package which then breaks the older gnucash:

I looked at the man page for apt_preferences then added the following as a
preferences file:

Package: gnucash
Pin: version 2.2.6-2
Pin-Priority: 1001

The idea is to keep gnucash at this version.

then

# aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
  iceweasel-l10n-en-gb xulrunner-1.9.1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libmozjs2d{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  iceweasel libcairo2 libglib2.0-0 libnss3-1d libpixman-1-0 libsqlite3-0
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  libglib2.0-data
6 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 106 not upgraded.
Need to get 13.2MB of archives. After unpacking 28.0MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xulrunner-1.9.1: Breaks: gnucash ( 2.2.9-7~) but 2.2.6-2 is installed.
  iceweasel-l10n-en-gb: Depends: iceweasel (= 3.1) but 3.5.12-2~bpo50+1 is
to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
gnucash

Upgrade the following packages:
iceweasel-l10n-en-gb [1:3.0.6+debian-1 (stable, now) -
1:3.5.11+debian-1~bpo50+1
(lenny-backports)]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
gnucash-common recommends gnucash (= 2.2.6-2)
Score is -11

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.


It looks like I need to review my decision not to upgrade gnucash. I didn't
want to mess with this for various reasons (partly because I have a separate
system which I use only for internet banking and I'd have to then add
backports to this also. I suppose if it works ok this wouldn't be an issue.
However I don't want to find out down the line that something fails and I
have updated gnucash accounts using a version I can't continue with.)

Maybe I'll try Roman's suggestion.


Re: Vfat or NTFS?

2010-03-08 Thread Russell Gadd
Thanks for all the responses. I'd like to leave Windows alone, therefore
using NTFS has attractions over trying to use ext2. I think I'll try using
it in place of FAT32 / VFAT in Linux using ntfs-3g and see how it goes. I'm
using Debian Lenny 64 bit on a quad core processor so I'm hoping that
performance won't an issue.


Vfat or NTFS?

2010-03-07 Thread Russell Gadd
I've been using Vfat for data partitions which I can access from both Linux
and Windows (multibooted). Recently I added another hard drive formatted
NTFS and have had no trouble getting Lenny to use it.

I am wondering now whether to convert my Vfat partitions to NTFS as there
are some advantages. For example I recently forgot about the 4GB file
restriction of Vfat when trying to download a DVD iso - it got to 4GB then
gave up so I had to redownload again to the NTFS volume. I suspect NTFS is
more reliable at least in Windows. Are there any potential issues in Linux -
e.g. reliability / speed.

Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root
filesystem on an ext3 partition).


update issue when /tmp is noexec

2009-06-03 Thread Russell Gadd
For some time now, in order to add a bit of security I have made /tmp
noexec. However I noticed recently looking at the messages scrolling up the
screen that some update configuration scripts were failing as they were
trying to be executed in /tmp. After googling I found this article:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/57

Which said to fix this do the following:

Add the following to the file /etc/apt/apt.conf:

  DPkg::Pre-Invoke{mount -o remount,exec /tmp;};
  DPkg::Post-Invoke {mount -o remount /tmp;};

  This contains two lines, one running before any packing installation and
one afterwards. They merely execute the commands required to add and remove
the execute permissions on the /tmp

Unfortunately this article was written in 2004, and it seems that there's no
longer a file /etc/apt/apt.conf

How could I amend the configuration of apt to fix this?

Alternatively, as a workaround I thought of writing a script along the lines
of:

  mount -o remount,exec /tmp
  aptitude update  aptitude safe-upgrade
  mount -o remount /tmp

If I run this script as root, instead of letting the update manager do the
work, would it do the upgrade properly? (Running Lenny)

I also wonder whether the updates I have done which have not allowed scripts
to run in /tmp have somehow compromised my system and if so would appreciate
any advice as to how to correct this.


Re: update issue when /tmp is noexec

2009-06-03 Thread Russell Gadd
Thanks Boyd. I've created a file as you suggest. Is there anywhere I can
inspect the messages that are generated during an update? I've looked in
/var/log and couldn't find anything there, although I may have missed it. It
would be nice to see this now working.

Can you answer the other question I asked: is my system likely to need some
attention due to not having allowed scripts to execute in /tmp since I
installed Lenny? If so what do I need to do (apart from reinstalling from
scratch)?

Russell


2009/6/3 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net

 In 779b039a0906030932kd76aed9n8692ec6aaef88...@mail.gmail.com, Russell
 Gadd wrote:
 For some time now, in order to add a bit of security I have made /tmp
 noexec. However I noticed recently looking at the messages scrolling up
  the screen that some update configuration scripts were failing as they
  were trying to be executed in /tmp. After googling I found this article:
 
 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/57
 
 Which said to fix this do the following:
 
 Add the following to the file /etc/apt/apt.conf:
 
   DPkg::Pre-Invoke{mount -o remount,exec /tmp;};
   DPkg::Post-Invoke {mount -o remount /tmp;};
 
 Unfortunately this article was written in 2004, and it seems that there's
  no longer a file /etc/apt/apt.conf

 Create a file under the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory.

 Similar to sources.list, apt.conf can be broken into a base file
 /etc/apt/apt.conf and supplementary files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d; unlike
 sources.list, this is the default for apt.conf.

 That's what the first paragraph of 'man 5 apt.conf' is trying to say.
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Re: update issue when /tmp is noexec

2009-06-03 Thread Russell Gadd
I had to look up the meaning of idempotent, a most apt word if I may say so
(pun not really intended but serendipitous anyway!). Your answers are very
full and much appreciated.

You can find preinst/postinst and other package tracking stuff under
 /var/lib/dpkg/info.

I had one look at this directory and gave up the idea of trying to run these
scripts, I think I'd be out of my depth. Reinstallation would be easier for
me. However I don't have any reason to believe my system is faulty through a
failure in updates so for the present I'll choose to be comforted by your
belief that it hasn't caused any problems.

Thanks again for your help.

Russell


Ton of Lenny updates

2009-04-12 Thread Russell Gadd
 There are 59 updates waiting for me to install. I never had this many when
I ran Etch for a couple of years, is something odd happening?


Re: usb discovery fails on initial boot

2008-11-16 Thread Russell Gadd

Florian Kulzer wrote:
snip



It would be interesting to see if the system recognizes the first USB
stick when you remove it and plug it in again. You should run

tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog

before you unplug it, then plug it in again and wait for at least thirty
seconds.  (Press CTRL-C to end the syslog watch.) Post the output that
you get, it might help to see how the system reacts to the unplug and to
the replug event.



Looking at the syslog when plugging and unplugging was most interesting. 
It seems the stick or the ports have a connection problem. My PC has 2 
USB ports on the front and 4 on the back. I was using a rear port for 
the permanently plugged in stick as the front ports are more exposed to 
accidentally knocking. When I plugged it into the front the USB was set 
up ok but in the back ports I got a series of error messages similar to 
the ones in the bootup syslog. One line read:


Nov 16 19:59:50 localhost kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. 
Maybe the USB cable is bad?


When I tried a different stick in the back the stick worked ok. However 
the faulty stick worked ok in the front ports, so this stick and the 
rear ports don't get on too well.


I'm sure this solves my problem - I'll start by getting a new stick for 
the back and hope it connects ok (the different one I tried is not 
mine). Thanks for all your help in tracking this down. It's a bit odd 
that the faulty stick didn't work in ANY of the rear 4 slots but did in 
the front, whereas a different stick did work ok in the rear. Still not 
something I'm going to spend much time on figuring out.


Again many thanks Florian.

Best regards
Russell


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Re: usb discovery fails on initial boot

2008-11-14 Thread Russell Gadd
I ran this command :
# udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=block --attr-match=removable=1

Output was:
/block/fd0
/block/hdc
/block/hdd

These are my floppy drive and my CD and DVD drives.

To check if I have and /dev/sd* devices I ran
ls -l /dev |grep sd
which I presume would do it - it produced no output

I also just looked at the output of ls -l /dev which had no sd* devices but
it did have some usb entries (not sure if this is of relevance?)
orac:/# ls -l /dev |grep usb
crw-rw 1 root root442,0 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev1.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442,0 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev1.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 2048 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev2.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 2048 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev2.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 4096 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev3.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 4096 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev3.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 6144 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev4.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 6144 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev4.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8192 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev5.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8192 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev5.1_ep81
orac:/#

I then decided to plug in another USB stick in another USB slot and reran
these commands, in case this tells you something.

orac:/# ls -l /dev |grep sd
brw-rw 1 root floppy8,0 2008-11-14 18:37 sda
brw-rw 1 root floppy8,1 2008-11-14 18:37 sda1
orac:/# ls -l /dev |grep usb
crw-rw 1 root root442,0 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev1.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442,0 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev1.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 2048 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev2.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 2048 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev2.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 4096 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev3.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 4096 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev3.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 6144 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev4.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 6144 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev4.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8192 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev5.1_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8192 2008-11-14 17:45 usbdev5.1_ep81
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8223 2008-11-14 18:37 usbdev5.32_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8223 2008-11-14 18:37 usbdev5.32_ep02
crw-rw 1 root root442, 8223 2008-11-14 18:37 usbdev5.32_ep81
orac:/#

umounting this second stick produced the original output

Russell
(still haven't found the way to reply to your post via Thunderbird so I have
emailed to the list - I'll post separately on this issue)


Re: usb discovery fails on initial boot

2008-11-12 Thread Russell Gadd

Florian Kulzer wrote:
snip


The first thing we need to know is if the device node(s) for the USB
stick are created reliably. When you have a first boot and the icon
does not show up, please run

ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/ | grep usb

and post the output here (or let us know if there is no output). 



Thanks Florian. This command produced no output

Russell

(I realise I've already posted this reply, but it didn't come out as a 
response to your post - I'm currently trying to work out exactly if it 
possible, and how to, use Thunderbird to post to usenet)



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Re: usb discovery fails on initial boot

2008-11-11 Thread Russell Gadd

Florian Kulzer wrote:
snip

The first thing we need to know is if the device node(s) for the USB
stick are created reliably. When you have a first boot and the icon
does not show up, please run

ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/ | grep usb

and post the output here (or let us know if there is no output). 



Thanks Florian. This command produced no output

Russell


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usb discovery fails on initial boot

2008-11-10 Thread Russell Gadd
 I have a bootup problem with a USB stick

I have a USB stick which is permanently plugged in (for backup purposes).
When the PC first boots the stick is never discovered, but if I wait a few
minutes and reboot, it generally gets discovered and mounted with an icon on
the desktop. I'm using Etch. I'd either like to find a fix for this so that
the bootup process finds the stick on first boot, or failing that, to run
some program to recognise the stick without having to reboot.

Russell
=
In the hope that this might help I've tried to pull out relevant lines from
syslog (grepping usb, ehci, uhci) which are as follows on first boot
when the stick fails to be discovered:

Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: USB Universal Host Controller Interface
driver v3.0
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 1
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 2
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 3
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 4
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using
uhci_hcd and address 2
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 5
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started,
EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2,
error -71
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 2
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: UHCI Host
Controller
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 1
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: irq 169, io base
0xef00
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: UHCI Host
Controller
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 2
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: irq 177, io base
0xef20
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: UHCI Host
Controller
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 3
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: irq 185, io base
0xef40
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: UHCI Host
Controller
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 4
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: irq 169, io base
0xef80
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using
uhci_hcd and address 2
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: EHCI Host
Controller
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 5
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: debug port 1
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: irq 201, io mem
0xfebffc00
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started,
EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
Nov  8 14:22:07 localhost kernel: usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 2


usb not found on initial boot

2008-05-14 Thread Russell Gadd
 I have a bootup problem with a USB stick

I have a USB stick which is permanently plugged in (for backup
purposes). When the PC first boots the stick is never discovered, but if
I wait a few minutes and reboot, it generally gets discovered and
mounted with an icon on the desktop. I'm using Etch. I'd either like to
find a fix for this so that the bootup process finds the stick on first
boot, or failing that, to run some program to recognise the stick
without having to reboot.

Russell
=
I've tried to pull out relevant lines from syslog (grepping usb,
ehci, uhci) which are as follows on first boot when the stick fails
to be discovered:

May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: debug port 1
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: irq 193, io mem
0xfebffc00
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: new USB bus
registered, assigned bus number 5
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started,
EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 11
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 16
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 24
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 31
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 7
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 8
May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

May 12 22:08:18 orac kernel: usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

May 12 22:08:21 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 50
May 12 22:08:31 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 87
May 12 22:08:33 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 95
May 12 22:08:34 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 4 reset error -110
May 12 22:08:34 orac kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)

May 12 22:08:34 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 97
May 12 22:08:36 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 101
May 12 22:08:39 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 115
May 12 22:08:44 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 5
May 12 22:08:44 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 6
May 12 22:08:47 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 16
May 12 22:08:49 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 21
May 12 22:08:50 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 26
May 12 22:08:53 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 38
May 12 22:08:58 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 4 reset error -110
May 12 22:08:58 orac kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)

May 12 22:08:58 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 54
May 12 22:09:02 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 4 reset error -110
May 12 22:09:02 orac kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)

May 12 22:09:02 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 68
May 12 22:09:05 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 78
May 12 22:09:06 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 82
May 12 22:09:08 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 88
May 12 22:09:09 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 4 reset error -110
May 12 22:09:09 orac kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)

May 12 22:09:09 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 91
May 12 22:09:11 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 94
May 12 22:09:12 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 98
May 12 22:09:13 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 103
May 12 22:09:16 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 113
May 12 22:09:18 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 121
May 12 22:09:19 orac kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 4 reset error -110
May 12 22:09:19 orac kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)

May 12 22:09:21 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 126
May 12 22:09:23 orac kernel: usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 7
May 12 22:09:25 orac kernel: 

Octal permissions display in Nautilus

2008-04-07 Thread Russell Gadd

Minor question: in Gnome's file browser Nautilus, if you select the list
view and add Octal Permissions to the columns displayed you get results
such as 1600744 for permissions -rwxr--r--. I understand why this should
be 744 but what does the 1600 mean?


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Virtualbox problem - Debian kernel header version?

2008-03-20 Thread Russell Gadd
I'm trying to install Virtualbox Guest addtions and at one point the
recommended install procedure says do
aptitude install build-essential kernel-header-`uname -r`

The kernel-header bit comes out as kernel-header-2.6.18-6-686
Aptitude reports could'nt find any package whose name or description
matched kernel-header-2.6.18-6-686

When I go into aptitude and search for kernel-header the package I find is
linux-kernel-headers  with a version number of 2.6.18-7 (which is installed)

I find the 7 a bit confusing as the installed kernel is 2.6.18-6 which is
the one on the latest r3 release iso.

The guest additions install routine (sh /media/cdrom0/VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
all) stalls with:
Please install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel.
The current version is 2.6.16-6-686

I'm not sure if Virtualbox stalls on the version number or the fact that it
can't find any kernel headers. Has anyone come across this problem?

(If not maybe I should try the Virtualbox forums, but I thought that a
Debian specific answer would be more likely from this forum)

Russell


Re: Virtualbox problem - Debian kernel header version?

2008-03-20 Thread Russell Gadd

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 05:44:44PM +, Russell Gadd wrote:
  

I'm trying to install Virtualbox Guest addtions and at one point the
recommended install procedure says do
aptitude install build-essential kernel-header-`uname -r`

The kernel-header bit comes out as kernel-header-2.6.18-6-686
Aptitude reports could'nt find any package whose name or description
matched kernel-header-2.6.18-6-686

When I go into aptitude and search for kernel-header the package I find is
linux-kernel-headers  with a version number of 2.6.18-7 (which is installed)

I find the 7 a bit confusing as the installed kernel is 2.6.18-6 which is
the one on the latest r3 release iso.



I know naught of Virtualbox, but I think the package you probably want
is 'linux-headers-2.6-686', the meta-package that depends on the latest
kernel headers for 686 architecture, *or* you could install the latest
directly with 'linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686'

A
  
As always, great help from you Andrew. I installed 
linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686 with aptitude and the installation worked. 
Maybe if I'd searched in aptitude for headers instead of kernel-headers 
I would have found it before. Gradually I'm learning more about Debian.


Thanks again - much appreciated.

Russell


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Re: TrueCrypt install on Debian v4.3 or v5?

2008-03-19 Thread Russell Gadd

Brian McKee wrote:

On 18-Mar-08, at 12:52 PM, Russell Gadd wrote:

Alternatively is anyone using version 5 happily without suffering 
negative experience as mentioned in some places, e.g. Truecrypt 5.1 - 
How I loathe thee http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?t=10025
One user suggests he will return in a year's time. I don't want to 
wait that long for a usable version.



I tried to follow that link
From their website
Please note that as you are not logged in, you can search only 
publicly accessible forums (for example, you cannot search the 
Problems forum). To search all available forums, you need to log in.



Hi Brian,

In case you are interested I copied the text from this link below.

Russell

How I loathe thee - posted by trueg
===

Before I begin my review of Truecrypt 5.1, You should know that I am not 
new to encryption. I have been using truecrypt 4.3 first on windows and 
then on linux with good results. Everything I do on this machine is 
automatically encrypted after login. While truecrypt without a gui was 
difficult to use at first, as I learned the commands it actually became 
easier and more efficient to use. Always, I found it to be fast, 
responsive and seamless.


Today, I installed truecrypt 5.1 on an older machine, to test it out. 
The experience has been so unforgivably horrible, that I have had to 
revert to 4.3 just to accomplish the most basic of tasks. I found myself 
writing a list of everything wrong with this version so as not to forget 
something.


As a linux user, there is a lot to find attractive in version 5. For 
example, Mounted volumes appear in the side pane of Nautilus. The 
graphical user interface has been ported from windows. When selecting a 
drive to encrypt, the GUI will list the size of each partition 
preventing the horrible of mistake of typing /dev/sdb instead of 
/dev/sdc. However, if you don't want to use the GUI you will have to 
type truecrypt -t before every command. This quickly gets tiresome. If I 
wanted to launch the GUI, I wouldn't have typed $truecrypt in the 
command line, would I. This became so tiresome that I was forced to 
create a wrapper to prevent the damned little GUI windows from launching 
every time I did anything in the command line.


If you are confused about any of the new features in truecrypt, don't 
expect to go to the man pages. What once existed in truecrypt 4.3 seems 
to have been erased. The 'Help' function doesn't work either. Other 
annoyances to add to the list: 1. The icon for truecrypt that appears in 
the sytem tray, disappears the moment you close the program. 2. Double 
clicking on a drive is supposed to open a file explorer window of the 
drive. It doesn't even fail, it just sits there doing nothing. 3. 
$truecrypt -d # doesn't appear to work anymore. 4. Even in text mode, 
you will have to dismiss more questions to accomplish basic tasks. 5. I 
couldn't mount unformatted volumes from the command line. (more on this 
in a bit)


These annoyances are not the worst of it. The structure of truecrypt has 
been so fundamentally altered that I couldn't even do a relatively 
simple task: create an XFS encrypted volume on an external drive.


After creating the encrypted volume, I attempted to load it so I could 
make the XFS filesystem. ( Why truecrypt can't give me this option when 
I first created the volume is a mystery to me. only the FAT filesystem 
is available) After typing in my long password, truecrypt refused to let 
me load it because the partition had no filesystem. Of course it 
doesn't! I haven't formatted it yet! Instead of letting me mount it 
anyway I had to type in the entire password again, but this time click 
the button more options and select do not mount. Grr.


I opened Gparted, my favorite disk formatting utility, but it seems 
truecrypt has changed the way it works. Instead of mount volumes on 
/dev/truecrypt? It now mounts them on /dev/loop? This means that 
truecrypt volumes don't show up in Gparted anymore. It also destroys all 
old scripts that I had built to work with truecrypt. Okay, I thought, 
I'll just have to use the command line $mkfs -t xfs /dev/loop? This work 
for the first few innodes, but then stalled on 28/1100. Stalled is to 
weak a word, it completely FROZE the entire computer forcing me to do a 
hard reboot.


Regardless, I pressed on. I created the XFS filesystem using a different 
computer that still had the GOOD truecrypt installed. Then, I mounted 
the volume with BAD truecrypt and attempted to copy some files. It was 
60 MiB in when it completely FROZE the computer once again. I watched as 
the time remaining counter started count up. The message box was saying 
400 HOURS estimated before I had enough and did a hard reboot again. 
It's as if the entire driver has been rewritten and the result is EPIC 
FAIL. This reminds me of the problems experienced by Windows Vista users.


By this point, I had had enough. I reinstalled truecrypt 4.3

TrueCrypt install on Debian v4.3 or v5?

2008-03-18 Thread Russell Gadd
I would like to install Truecrypt on Debian Etch. According to recent 
posts I have read (see below) there are problems with the new version 5 
which means I would like to install version 4.3a. which I am sure will 
do all I need. However Debian is not one of their supported distros.


First problem is I can't find the source to 4.3 on their website. They 
have a section for downloading previous versions, but the source doesn't 
seem to be there. There is a Ubuntu deb package which appears to be a 
compiled version.


Alternatively is anyone using version 5 happily without suffering 
negative experience as mentioned in some places, e.g. Truecrypt 5.1 - 
How I loathe thee http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?t=10025
One user suggests he will return in a year's time. I don't want to wait 
that long for a usable version.


I found a guide to installing v5 on Etch here
http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?p=40855#40855
but haven't found a guide for v4.3 (probably because my search produced 
too many hits for me to wade through).



Any help  / opinions on how I should proceed would be welcome.


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Re: Rename partition in Nautilus Tree

2008-03-15 Thread Russell Gadd

Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:

Russell Gadd wrote:
I'd like to be able to customise the contents of the left pane of 
Nautilus file manager either in Tree or Places view. I have 2 
hard drives and each has 4 primary partitions. Each of the data 
partitions shows up as a root in this tree view even though it is 
mounted under a directory name in the File System. I'd like to do 
either of 2 things if possible:


1. Remove a partition from this view

2. If not 1 then can I rename a partition ? - for example due to the 
way the system was initially set up one partition shows as Linux. 
This is mounted under directory docs. It shows as Linux in the 
tree but I want it to be called docs.
If I right click this item and choose Properties the panel 
title is docs Properties and the Basic tab shows Name: docs, Type 
folder, Location: /, Volume: Linux. So the item in the tree/ places 
seems to be the Volume name. But I can't find where this is stored - 
it's not in /etc/fstab. Can I rename this somewhere?


tune2fs -L new volume label /path/to/partition



(I realise this may be a Gnome question rather than Debian - If 
there's a better list to post this on please let me know)


Russell



Hi Raj

Thanks for this. It didn't seem to work until I shut down X and 
restarted. Also it complained about the last bit being a path so I used 
a device name (I guess this is what you meant rather than the filesystem 
mount point which I used at first)


tune2fs -L docs /dev/hdb3


Regards
Russell


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Rename partition in Nautilus Tree

2008-03-14 Thread Russell Gadd
I'd like to be able to customise the contents of the left pane of Nautilus
file manager either in Tree or Places view. I have 2 hard drives and
each has 4 primary partitions. Each of the data partitions shows up as a
root in this tree view even though it is mounted under a directory name in
the File System. I'd like to do either of 2 things if possible:

1. Remove a partition from this view

2. If not 1 then can I rename a partition ? - for example due to the way the
system was initially set up one partition shows as Linux. This is mounted
under directory docs. It shows as Linux in the tree but I want it to be
called docs.
If I right click this item and choose Properties the panel title is
docs Properties and the Basic tab shows Name: docs, Type folder,
Location: /, Volume: Linux. So the item in the tree/ places seems to be the
Volume name. But I can't find where this is stored - it's not in /etc/fstab.
Can I rename this somewhere?

(I realise this may be a Gnome question rather than Debian - If there's a
better list to post this on please let me know)

Russell