modem not detected

2004-03-07 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i am not a member of the list. so i request you to mark a copy of your 
replies to me also.

i have an hp machine that came preinstalled with win xp. i have recently
installed debian 3.0 on it and now it is a double boot computer.
in windows, it shows Generic SoftK56 Data Fax Voice Speakerphone as a
modem on COM3. PCI slot2 (bus 2, dev 10, function 0).
following is the output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host 
Bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge 
(rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset PCI (rev 12)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset ISA Bridge 
(ICH2) (rev 12)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset IDE U100 
(rev 12)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset USB 
(Hub A) (rev 12)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset SMBus (rev 12)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset USB 
(Hub B) (rev 12)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) 
Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 12)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro TF
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82820 (ICH2) Chipset Ethernet 
Controller (rev 03)
02:0a.0 Communication controller: Rockwell International HCF 56k 
Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp (w/Handset) Modem (rev 01)

output of wvdial is:

Scanning your serial ports for a modem.

ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 4800 baud
ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 4800 baud, next try: 9600 baud
ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 19200 baud
ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 19200 baud, next try: 115200 baud
ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up.
ttyS1*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 4800 baud
ttyS1*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 4800 baud, next try: 9600 baud
ttyS1*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 19200 baud
ttyS1*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 19200 baud, next try: 115200 baud
ttyS1*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up.
Port Scan*1: S2   S3   ACM0 ACM1 ACM2 ACM3 ACM4 ACM5
Port Scan*1: ACM6 ACM7 ACM8 ACM9 ACM10 ACM11 ACM12 ACM13
Port Scan*1: ACM14 ACM15 USB0 USB1 USB2 USB3 USB4 USB5
Port Scan*1: USB6 USB7 USB8 USB9 USB10 USB11 USB12 USB13
Port Scan*1: USB14 USB15
Sorry, no modem was detected!  Is it in use by another program?
Did you configure it properly with setserial?
Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wvdial/

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what is wrong? is there something missing?

thanks in advance,

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problem starting x

2004-02-23 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

firstly, i am not a member of the group. so, may i request you to send 
your replies to my e-mail address also?

i have a hp pc running win xp. it has an hp72 monitor.

from control panel - device managers following information is available.

monitor - hp d 8904

display adapter - rage 128 pro gl

i have made the system a double boot one by installing debian 3.0. the 
installation went on without any problem. however, now x refuses to start.

i have attached the error file as well as the config file. could someone 
help me in setting it right?

thanks in advance,

sandip
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the
# ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section Files
FontPathunix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadpex5
Loadrecord
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
Loadxie
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc104
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/psaux
Option  Protocol  PS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  SendCoreEventstrue
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Generic Video Card
Driver  i810
VideoRam8192
Option  UseFBDev  true
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Generic Monitor
HorizSync   30-54
VertRefresh 50-85
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor Generic Monitor
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Default Layout
Screen  Default Screen
InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse
InputDevice Generic Mouse
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode0666
EndSection

### END DEBCONF SECTION

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devnagari fonts in mails

2004-01-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

here is the situation.

from my windows machine i send mails home. at home i run debian 3.0 and 
use exim - fetchmail - mutt combination for mail.

all these mails have to be in english as i do not know how to send mails 
in devnagari that mutt can read.

but i would prefer to send mails in devnagari.

is it too complicated a process? can it be done between a windows and 
linux machine?

i know the questions are general. but could someone help me please?

thanks in advance,

sandip



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screen - recover session after a shut down

2003-03-26 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i am using screen on my debian 3.0.

i usually have a few applications open when i use it. i typically halt
from within the screen.

when i restart the computer and restart screen, i have to start these
applications again.

is there a way in which i can make screen remember what applications
were open even after i reboot?

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Re: Root login to Windows X

2003-03-23 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 03:30:33PM -0700, Francisco Castellon wrote:
 
Hello list:
 
 
I just finished installing my first Debian system and I seem to not be
able to log on to Windows X using the root account, I can easily log
in with any other account though. I have tried choosing different
types of sessions (Gnome, Debian, KDE, etc...) at the log in screen
and it still keeps on saying: The system administrator is not allowed
to login from this screen.

correct. usually, root can not start x. although i dunno how to enable
it.

usually, all control tools will ask for root password when you try doing
something not allowed for a normal user.

if your program doesnt do that, start a terminal program, get into su
and start the program from that prompt.

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Re: i can not start x from screen session

2003-03-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 07:44:41AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 03:57:20PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 | i am unable to start x from a screen session.
 | 
 | it exits with a message 'user not authorized to run x server'. how can i
 | remedy it?
 
 Look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
 
 (allowed_users=console)

thanx.

 | will i be opening a security hole if i overcome this problem?
 
 Maybe.

well, it was cryptic. but i decided not to take even a 'maybe' chance
and decided not to change allowed users to anybody

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Re: Problem with startx

2003-03-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 06:26:29AM +, Isuru Binduhewa wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am using debian.When I loged in as the root I can go
 to Xwindows using startx at the prompt.But when I
 logged in as a normal user I can go to Xwindow.

that is normal. you usually can not start an x session as root. but you
can start x as a notmal user. open some terminal there and do su in
that.

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i can not start x from screen session

2003-03-19 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
i am unable to start x from a screen session.

it exits with a message 'user not authorized to run x server'. how can i
remedy it?

will i be opening a security hole if i overcome this problem?

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Re: repost -- phoenix, java and other plug-ins. are there any .debs?

2003-03-02 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:40:43AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
 Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
 Hi Sandip,

hello gary

thankx for your help and nate's comments also were useful.

for benefit of the group, i would like to summarize what i learnt in
the process:

-   typically, location of the files would not matter. for instance,
i have both java and phoenix in my home directory

-   it is a good idea to start a new application thus installed from
a console. this will throw errors it encounters on console. all
along i had been trying phoenix directly from command line in
ion. this never threw any errors

hth, especially those who want to try an application for which a deb is
not yet available

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Re: Phoenix with java ..

2003-03-01 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:38:52AM -0600, Nathan Poznick wrote:
 Thus spake Sandip P Deshmukh:
  well, i use it only for viewing some sites. i see that several sites use
  java for tickers, etc. so i need a lightweight browser with java
  support. phoenix fits the bill, hence phoenix.
 
 Are you using a copy of phoenix from the phoenix project page on
 mozilla.org, or are you using the preliminary Debian packages from
 people.debian.org/~eric ?

i was using phoenix from phoenix project page. i am now thinking of
shifting to debs because i thought that it would solve the problems.

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Re: Phoenix with java ..

2003-03-01 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
 On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:36:37PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
 thanks. actually, i am trying to locate phoenix and java .deb files for
 my r3.0 woody stable distribution. could not.
 
 what lines do i need to add in my /etc/apt/sources.list?
 
 
 Do not know about the phoenix deb, but got my j2sdk1.3 debs from below:
 
# Blackdown Java from metalab
deb http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/ woody 
 non-free

thanx for your help. finally, i got it working with the linux binary
from sun. it was some problem with libstdc++ package. i got it installed
and now it is working.

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Re: Phoenix with java ..

2003-02-28 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:36:22PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:12:34PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
 then i did the link as recommended and did about:plugins. here is
 culprit. i do not get to see java plugin!
 
 i am at my wits end now!
 
 any help/ suggestions?
 
 I am a galeon user and have phoenix on my machine. After looking at this
 thread thought that I would try phoenix with java. It was very easy. I
 could see the clock ticking at java.sun.com

i wish so could i :)

 I just symlinked the javaplugin from /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji.so to
 phoenix/plugins/. 

as i had mentioned, my locations are different

 Everything worked well. BTW, are you able to use java plugin with other
 browsers like galeon, mozilla, konqueror?

i currently have only phoenix and i am happy with it. its a pity if i
have to change the browser for java :(

thanx for help

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repost -- phoenix, java and other plug-ins. are there any .debs?

2003-02-28 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

this is my last attempt before i shift to some bloated browser. i have
tried installing phoenix and make java run on it umpteen number of
times. it *never* worked.

phoenix installation is perfect. java is not. so, finally, i have
decided to try installing from .debs.

i run debian stable (woody) r3.0 and usually keep my system upto date
using aptitude. any suggestions on where do i get these .deb files and
step by step instructions on how to get and use them?

thanks in advance

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Re: Phoenix with java ..

2003-02-28 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:35:02PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:03:17PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
 i wish so could i :)
 
 You will. Since I got it working here, you too must be able to do the
 same :-) Maybe, a couple of more mails.

thanks. actually, i am trying to locate phoenix and java .deb files for
my r3.0 woody stable distribution. could not.

what lines do i need to add in my /etc/apt/sources.list?

 i currently have only phoenix and i am happy with it. its a pity if i
 have to change the browser for java :(
 
 Sure. I like galeon, but have other browsers lying around, just to check
 certain things. I have noticed some sites are rendered better in
 konqueror, some in galeon, etc. Generally, the appearance indicates that
 something is wrong. I would advice you to install galeon, if space is
 not a premium.

sure space is not a premium. i will install galeon in the meantime

 My experience with phoenix is not good. I visit mail.yahoo.co.in -
 login - inbox - delete. It just says, multiple connection limit
 reached, blah, blah. Galeon, etc. do not have this issue. YMMV.

well, i use it only for viewing some sites. i see that several sites use
java for tickers, etc. so i need a lightweight browser with java
support. phoenix fits the bill, hence phoenix.

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installing phoenix and java

2003-02-27 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i tried my hand as best as i could at installing phoenix and java for it
by hand. no success.

are there any debian packages that will let me install phoenix and java
for that using apt system?

i request simple easy to understand step by step instructions.

thanks in advance

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Re: Phoenix with java ..

2003-02-27 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:09:55PM -0800, nate wrote:
 I guess I deleted the mail from I think Sandip but I decided
 to try to get java working in phoenix 0.5 and it seems to work..

yes. it was me. it had been quite frustrating. finally, i decided to
check if there are any debian packages available. i have posted a
message recently.

 what I did:
 
 1) install phoenix(I install to ~/phoenix)

same as me.

 2) download java:
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html
 (I downloaded the linux self extracting file)

so did i.

 3) chmod +x the java file and run it, move the directory to /usr/local/java

ah ha. i had it extracted in /home/sandip/java. i think java needs to be
in the 'path'. here is output of echo $PATH:

/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games

could that be the reason?

 4) exit phoenix
 5) cd ~/phoenix/plugins
 6) ln -s /usr/local/java/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 7) start phoenix

identical - except the path to java

 8) in url box type about:plugins to be sure it's loaded

i did not know this. i will try it out this time.

 9) test it by going to:
 http://java.sun.com/openstudio/applets/clock.html

i went to some other site that runs java applet. i think it should not
matter.

 worked for me 

did not work for me (TM) ;) but i will try again (TM) ;)

 nate

thanks for your help. just one question. if i have /usr/local in my
path, does it mean all subdirectories under /usr/local?

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Re: Phoenix with java ..

2003-02-27 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:49:40PM -0800, nate wrote:
 Sandip P Deshmukh said:
 
  ah ha. i had it extracted in /home/sandip/java. i think java needs to be
  in the 'path'. here is output of echo $PATH:
 
  /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games

well, i changed my path also to include java and phoenix folders - just
in case!

then i did the link as recommended and did about:plugins. here is
culprit. i do not get to see java plugin!

i am at my wits end now!

any help/ suggestions?

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Re: phoenix - how to make java work?

2003-02-26 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 01:14:58PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 25 Feb 2003, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  hello all
  
  much to my deslike, several sites that i refer to, have java content.
  and despite my several attempts, i have not been able to run java under
  phoenix.
  
  here is what i have done so far:
  
  download phoenix precompiled binary tar ball and expand it in
  /home/sandip
  
  so, there is /home/sandip/phoenix/phoenix and it is executable. it runs
  quite well
  
  downloaded java binary for linux from sun's site. jre... in my
  /home/sandip
  
  chmod a+x jre
  
  ./jre
  
  renamed the folder to java. so, there is /home/sandip/java
  
  in phoenix/plugins directory, make symlink to
  /home/sandip/java//plugin/ns610/lib..so
  
  yet, no effect.
  
  any remedies please?
  
  -- 
 
 See http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml and adapt the method given
 there to for phoenix. Actually I had already used these instructions for
 mozilla and when I installed phoenix I didn't need to do anything new;
 java just worked in phoenix.

as you can see from my mail, i have followed these very instructions
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phoenix - how to make java work?

2003-02-25 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

much to my deslike, several sites that i refer to, have java content.
and despite my several attempts, i have not been able to run java under
phoenix.

here is what i have done so far:

download phoenix precompiled binary tar ball and expand it in
/home/sandip

so, there is /home/sandip/phoenix/phoenix and it is executable. it runs
quite well

downloaded java binary for linux from sun's site. jre... in my
/home/sandip

chmod a+x jre

./jre

renamed the folder to java. so, there is /home/sandip/java

in phoenix/plugins directory, make symlink to
/home/sandip/java//plugin/ns610/lib..so

yet, no effect.

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ns4 directory as well. still no effect!


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Re: small spamassassin configuration question

2003-02-23 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 12:14:30AM -0500, Hubert Chan wrote:
  Sandip == Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sandip hello all could someone tell me whats the location of systemwide
 Sandip configuration file for spamassassin (spamd)?
 
 Sandip per user configuration file is ~/.spamassassin/user-prefs. but
 Sandip unless i allow per user preferences in the systemwide
 Sandip configuration file, the per user confguration does not come into
 Sandip effect.
 
 Are you looking for /etc/default/spamassassin?  (Which lets you pass
 command line options to spamd.)  Or /etc/spamassassin?

well, i had done /etc/default/spamassassin earlier. to limit no of child
processes -m option. here i was looking at /etc/spamassassin

 AFAICT, spamd should use per-user configuration files by default.  At
 least it does for me.

ah yes. but i read in one of the man pages, i dont remember which, that
doing so is a big security hole. so, i was thinking of only having
system-wide perference file. currently i have
/etc/spamassassin/user_prefs. am not too sure if that is the systemwide
file. and here is what man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf has to say:

   Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf - SpamAssassin configuration file

   These settings differ from the ones above, in that they
   are considered 'privileged'.  Only users running spamasĀ­
   sassin from their procmailrc's or forward files, or
   sysadmins editing a file in /etc/spamassassin, can use
   them.   spamd users cannot use them in their
   user_prefs files, for security and efficiency reasons,
   unless allow_user_rules is enabled (and then, they may
   only add rules from below).

   allow_user_rules { 0 | 1 } (default: 0)
   This setting allows users to create rules (and only
   rules) in their user_prefs files for use with
   spamd. It defaults to off, because this could be a
   severe security hole. It may be possible for users to
   gain root level access if spamd is run as root. It
   is NOT a good idea, unless you have some other way of
   ensuring that users' tests are safe. Don't use this
   unless you are certain you know what you are doing.

what is this referring to??

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Re: phoenix java plugin - installed, but not installed

2003-02-22 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:27:44PM -0500, Geordie Birch wrote:
 said Sandip P Deshmukh (on 2003-02-21),
 
  some confusion here. i already have a link that you are talking about.
  here are contents of my /home/sandip/phoenix/plugin directory:
 
  total 24
  drwxr-xr-x6 sandip   sandip   4096 Feb 19 18:46 java2
  lrwxrwxrwx1 sandip   sandip 73 Feb 19 17:51 libjavaplugin_oji.so - 
  /home/sandip/phoenix/plugins/java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
  -rwxr-xr-x1 sandip   sandip  19728 Dec  8 05:20 libnullplugin.so
 
  here are contents of /home/sandip/phoenix/plugin/java2/plugin/i386/ns600
  directory:
 
  total 268
  -rwxr-xr-x1 sandip   sandip 269600 Mar 15  2002 libjavaplugin_oji.so
 
  so, what is wrong here? doesnt java like to be placed in a differnt
  directory? this sounds very window-like
 
 directory shouldn't matter at all.
 
 maybe your version of java is too old... ? 

all right, i downloaded java for linux binary from sun site to my home
directory. ran the .bin file and it created a directory structure. now,
i create a symlink to i386/ns610/libjava etc in phoenix/plugin
directory. no use. i try ns600 and ns4, no use still!!

what is wrong? anything to do with file permissions? help please!!

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Re: phoenix java plugin - installed, but not installed

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:43:51AM -0500, Geordie Birch wrote:
 said Sandip P Deshmukh (on 2003-02-20),
 
  i recently downloaded phoenix tar ball (binary files) and expanded it in
  my home directory.
 
  what do i need to do to get java going? several sites seem to run
  tickers etc using java.
 
 $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/phoenix/plugins/
 total 1460
 -rw-r--r--1 geordie  geordie   856 Jan 26 04:16 flashplayer.xpt
 lrwxrwxrwx1 geordie  geordie59 Feb 10 23:48 javaplugin_oji.so
 - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
 -rwxr-xr-x1 geordie  geordie   1464736 Jan 26 04:16 libflashplayer.so
 -rwxr-xr-x1 geordie  geordie 19824 Feb 19 09:49 libnullplugin.so

some confusion here. i already have a link that you are talking about.
here are contents of my /home/sandip/phoenix/plugin directory:

total 24
drwxr-xr-x6 sandip   sandip   4096 Feb 19 18:46 java2
lrwxrwxrwx1 sandip   sandip 73 Feb 19 17:51 libjavaplugin_oji.so - 
/home/sandip/phoenix/plugins/java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
-rwxr-xr-x1 sandip   sandip  19728 Dec  8 05:20 libnullplugin.so

here are contents of /home/sandip/phoenix/plugin/java2/plugin/i386/ns600
directory:

total 268
-rwxr-xr-x1 sandip   sandip 269600 Mar 15  2002 libjavaplugin_oji.so

so, what is wrong here? doesnt java like to be placed in a differnt
directory? this sounds very window-like

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Re: use of spamassassin and razor

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:14:24AM -0600, Will Trillich wrote:
 N.B. my perspective comes from my setup -- see sig below. ymmv...
 
  well, currently, my spamassassin is not even tagging the mail.
  will i have to make changes to exim also? is there an easy to
  understand, step-by-step guide to do that?
 
 yes, lemme see if i can locate it--
 
   $ grep exim `dpkg -L spamassassin`
   /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/README.Debian:
   For information on integrating spamassassin and exim, see
   /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/README.Debian:
   http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html
 
 looking there, i see
 
   For information on integrating spamassassin and exim, see
   http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html

this was a good reference. helped a lot!

  well, i do not have procmail. but i do have a .forward file
  that is an exim filter. would that be adequate to do the job?
  but i got a hint of what you are doing in procmailrc and it is
  close to what i would like to do.
 
 sure.
 
   if  $h_x-spam-level begins *
   then
   save Mail/SPAM
   logwrite From $return_path $tod_log\n Subject: $h_subject:\n  Folder: 
SPAM  $message_size
   finish
   endif
 
 with x-spam-level i can tweak how many stars i'll tolerate. you
 can use whichever headers you like.

got that. one more question. how do i make some messages bypass spamd?
like for instance, as i understand, debian mailing lists are anyway
scanned for spam using spamassassin.

how and where do i tell spamassassin that 'dont scan a message if it
comes from debian mailing list?' will it have to be in exim.conf (i wont
prefer it) or will it have to be in .forward (exim filter)? preferable
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spamassassin - three basic questions

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i recently installed spamassassin and it is not only tagging messages as
spam but also converting all attachments into inline text.

i just got two pdf documents as inline texts incorrectly marked as spam.

i have three questions on spamassassin:

1.  how to i tell spamassassin *not to* process some messages? for
instance, debain mailing list, i understand, is already processed for
spam. no use spamming it again

2.  how do i tell spamassassin *not to* convert all attachments into
inline material? retain the structure, just add the tag in subject line?

3.  how do i tell spamassassin, here, if the message is from a
certain sender, it is not spam - irrespctive of what you think and if a
message is from some other sender, it is spam - irrespctive of what you
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Re: spamassassin - three basic questions

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 02:49:25PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
 * Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-21 14:47]:
  
  1.  how to i tell spamassassin *not to* process some messages? for
  instance, debain mailing list, i understand, is already processed for
  spam. no use spamming it again
  
 whitelist

is this a separate program? will you please elaborate?

  2.  how do i tell spamassassin *not to* convert all attachments into
  inline material? retain the structure, just add the tag in subject line?
  
 procmail

i do not use this. i use .forward exim filter instead. will it do? or
will i have to necessarily use procmail?

  3.  how do i tell spamassassin, here, if the message is from a
  certain sender, it is not spam - irrespctive of what you think and if a
  message is from some other sender, it is spam - irrespctive of what you
  think?
  
 blacklist  procmail
 
 
 wbr,

what is that? a complete newbie here!

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Re: spamassassin - three basic questions

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 02:34:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 06:59:45PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  1.  how to i tell spamassassin *not to* process some messages? for
  instance, debain mailing list, i understand, is already processed for
  spam. no use spamming it again
 
 Rearrange your exim filter so that it delivers such messages directly to
 the appropriate mailbox before the part that calls spamassassin.

some confusion here. here is my exim filter (relevant portions):

# Exim filter

# move all spam
if
$h_X-Spam-Status: contains Yes
or
${if def:h_X-Spam-Flag {def}{undef}} is def 
then
save $home/nvnt/spm
finish
endif

# move all mailing list mail to mlst folder 

if  $h_to: contains lists.debian.org or
$h_cc: contains lists.debian.org or
then
save $home/nvnt/mlst
finish
endif

# move everything else to nvn
save $home/eptr/nvn
finish

if i understand correctly, my .forward file (exim filter) checks for
x-spam-status. this is updated by spamassassin. so is it that all mail
that is processed by exim filter is processed by spamassassin anyway? in
that case, even if i move my mailing list items out in the beginning of
the exim filter, it wont make a difference as the exim filter is
processing mails *after* they are processed by spamassassin.

  2.  how do i tell spamassassin *not to* convert all attachments into
  inline material? retain the structure, just add the tag in subject line?
 
 See Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf(3pm). Try unsetting defang_mime.
 
  3.  how do i tell spamassassin, here, if the message is from a
  certain sender, it is not spam - irrespctive of what you think and if a
  message is from some other sender, it is spam - irrespctive of what you
  think?
 
 See Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf(3pm). Use whitelist_from.

one more question. i have read time and again the documentation that
comes with spamassassin. i am unable to decide location of configuration
files. the documentation says that per user settings are a security hole
for users can get root access if spamd is run. i do run spamd and dont
want to have any security holes although i am the only user of the
system. does that mean that i will have to defang mime and whitelist,
etc. in systemwide file? what file do i have to edit? i havent modeified
any spamassassin configuration file as yet.

one more thing, if i understand documentation correctly, inorder to stop
spamassassin from processing some mails (question 1), i may have to do
whitelist_to in the configuration file?

thanx for all the help. i think after i get this clear, my spamassassin
setup will be the way i want it :)

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Re: spamassassin - three basic questions

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:11:00AM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 At 2003-02-21T13:29:45Z, Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Assuming that SpamAssassin is configured to read per-user settings from
 ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, edit that file to add:

this is interesting. i have an /etc/default/spamassassin that reads like
this (relevant portions):

# Change to one to enable spamd
ENABLED=1

# Options
OPTIONS=-F 0 -m 3

as you can see, i have enabled spamd. the other options are for some
from header (this i borrowed directly from dman site) and -m 3 restricts
child processes to 3. this prevents too much build up of system load.

i also read the documentation. it mentions that per-user settings is a
security risk if spamd is run. so, i will prefer not to allow per user
settings although i am the only user of the system.

what file to i edit if per user settings are not allowed?

thanx for your help. i am only one answer away from getting spamassassin
to work the way i want to.

one last question - this may be off topic. i am sure, there will be
several newbies like me who face the same problem on setting up
spamassassin. is there a website where i can post my experiences, hoping
they are useful for others?

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Re: spamassassin - three basic questions

2003-02-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 02:01:19PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
 1. how to i tell spamassassin *not to* process some messages? for
 instance, debain mailing list, i understand, is already processed for
 spam. no use spamming it again
 
 
 Maybe not necessary, but, unless your mailserver is horribly slow,
 it'll be done so quick that it's not going to hurt anything anyhow.

well, i have read some documents and they are talking about a few
seconds of processing per message of an average size. in fact, spamd
came up to ease the burden on resources if i understand correctly.

one more point, if a small setting is going to save even a small
resource, why not? :)

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use of spamassassin and razor

2003-02-19 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i have recently installed spamassassin and razor, hoping it will reduce
my spam burden.

i use exim, fetchmail, mutt combination to read my mail in fairly
default configuration.

frankly, i do not understand how to use spamassassin and razor.

or how exactly does it do the job. i just want the spam to be marked and
pushed to a specific mutt folder.

any simple tricks here?

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phoenix java plugin - installed, but not installed

2003-02-19 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i recently downloaded phoenix tar ball (binary files) and expanded it in
my home directory.

so, now there is /home/sandip/phoenix/phoenix executable. and it runs
fast.

when i visited some sites that needed java plugin, i installed it from
the dialogue box that came up. it showed installation complete. when i
restart the browser and revisit the same page, it asks for installation
of the plugin again.

i went to the phoenix home page and installed java plugin from there. no
use.

what do i need to do to get java going? several sites seem to run
tickers etc using java.

is there a standard way to install plugins after one has downloaded and
installed phoenix the way i have?

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Re: use of spamassassin and razor

2003-02-19 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 06:55:29AM +0100, Alex Polite wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:34:26PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  i have recently installed spamassassin and razor, hoping it will reduce
  my spam burden.
 
 Don't bother with those tools. Spambayes[1], the new kid on the block,
 uses a statistical approach and is IMHO a lot better.

thanx for your suggestion. are there any .deb files for that? i checked
in my aptitude and nothing was available. a newbie here and cant even
get a nice debian package to work! :(

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Re: use of spamassassin and razor

2003-02-19 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:44:55PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:34:26PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  frankly, i do not understand how to use spamassassin and razor.
  
  or how exactly does it do the job. i just want the spam to be marked and
  pushed to a specific mutt folder.
 
 SpamAssassin just tags the mail. You need to use procmail or similar to
 decide what to do with the tag.

well, currently, my spamassassin is not even tagging the mail. will i
have to make changes to exim also? is there an easy to understand,
step-by-step guide to do that?

 Here's a heavily cut-down and additionally-commented version of my
 .procmailrc. The real version has rules for all kinds of mailing lists
 and so on, but this illustrates the basics.

well, i do not have procmail. but i do have a .forward file that is an
exim filter. would that be adequate to do the job? but i got a hint of
what you are doing in procmailrc and it is close to what i would like to
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Re: Disabling the framebuffer

2003-02-13 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:58:38PM +, Rus Foster wrote:
 Hi All,
  In /etc/lilo.conf if I want to disable the frame buffer what d I need to
 change the vga= line to

here is my /etc/lilo.conf. this turns framebuffer off :)

# Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, mode)
#
# vga=normal
# vga=9
#
vga=normal

#this turns frame buffer off 1 and turns apm on 3
 append=video=vga16:off apm=on apm=power-off noapic

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Re: [newbie] multiusers problems

2003-02-10 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:44:42AM -0300, Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote:
 I had installed some softwares on my debian. but they only work when I am logged 
with root. How can I install the softwares as multi users?

which programs are you trying to run?

could you indicate what exactly was the error message?

remember, some programs are meant to be used as root. in fact, several
programs are meant to be used as root. may be, the ones you tried fell
in this category?

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Re: find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-31 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:48:14AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29 Jan 2003 15:54:32 -0600,
 Ron Johnson wrote:
  
  On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 10:28, Nathan E Norman wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:51:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
hello all

i am sure there must be a way of doing it. i am not getting it though.

let us say, i have done ls -l , etc etc
then i have done a few more commands at the prompt.

now, i want to use that ls command again. is there a way inwhich i can
reach it quickly? for instance, i type ls and some other key and bash
completes from history?
   
 tcsh has a far more elegant (tm) approach to the problem. Typing
 lsALT-P (or META-P) will get you only all the commands that
 begin with ls (eliminating such oddities as echo lst.txt). If
 somebody knows the precise bash equivalent of this, let me
 know. BTW AFAICT the tcsh equivalent of CTRL-R is a wildcard
 sequence like *ls*, which will capture all *ls* whether command
 or argument.

well, thanx for suggestion. but i am not using tcsh and control r served
my purpose well so wont be shifting to it either!

but i read up on tcsh in aptitude and it seems interesting.

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Re: Quicky about acroread...

2003-01-31 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:45:21PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote:
   I haven't found a .deb for acroread, Acrobat's linux version of their
 .pdf reader.  Does one exist?  I realize it isn't free, but I also
 cannot get xpdf and/or ghostview to deal with passworded pdf files (as
 sent to me by my wife's student loan people...)

if you want just a pdf reader, you can try xpdf. quick and neat, i would
say.

did you try apt-cache search pdf for more alternatives?

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find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-29 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i am sure there must be a way of doing it. i am not getting it though.

let us say, i have done ls -l , etc etc
then i have done a few more commands at the prompt.

now, i want to use that ls command again. is there a way inwhich i can
reach it quickly? for instance, i type ls and some other key and bash
completes from history?

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Re: find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-29 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:30:54PM +0100, Stephen Rueger wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:51:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  let us say, i have done ls -l , etc etc
  then i have done a few more commands at the prompt.
  
  now, i want to use that ls command again. is there a way inwhich i can
  reach it quickly? for instance, i type ls and some other key and bash
  completes from history?
 
 You can press ctrl-r to search backwards in your history or you can use

thanx. this is perfect. just what i wanted

 csh-like history expansion with ! (read the HISTORY EXPANSION section in
 the bash man page)

this is a bit tricky. lets say, it executes an unwanted delete command
in a hurry!

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Re: find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-29 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:28:11AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:51:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  
  let us say, i have done ls -l , etc etc
  then i have done a few more commands at the prompt.
  
  now, i want to use that ls command again. is there a way inwhich i can
  reach it quickly? for instance, i type ls and some other key and bash
  completes from history?
 
 You can also use the history command to view your history.  Any
 command in your history can be reused by prefixing its history number
 with a bang ('!').  Thus if history says 422  ls -lAF /usr/local you
 can type !422 at a prompt to issue that command again.  history +
 grep can be fun.

oh sure. this is also very useful.

 Finally, (and perhaps most obvious) you can use ctrl-p and ctrl-n to
 cycle backwards and forwards through your command history.  For most
 terminal types these sequences are mapped to the up-arrow and
 down-arrow respectively.

sure i was doing this already. but it is only : sequential browsing.
does not help if the command you are looking for is 200 commands back!

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Re: find a command i have recently used in bash

2003-01-29 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:31:54AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
 -- Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 (on Wednesday, 29 January 2003, 07:51 PM +0530):
  
  let us say, i have done ls -l , etc etc
  then i have done a few more commands at the prompt.
  
  now, i want to use that ls command again. is there a way inwhich i can
  reach it quickly? for instance, i type ls and some other key and bash
  completes from history?
 
 I don't know about that, but if you hit your up-arrow, it will scroll
 backwards through the command history -- I do this a lot to save on
 keystrokes. 

i will recommend control r for you. very useful! try it, harness the
power
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Re: Updating Critical Packages Only

2003-01-28 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:25:24PM -0800, S Yuval wrote:
 I recently bought the Debian 3.0r1 7-CD set and am trying to upgrade some obsolete 
packages. However, it turns out that if I ask apt to update its package database, 
most packages I have on the CD-set become obsolete and can no longer be installed 
conveniently through dselect. Since I cannot afford to spend nights downloading new 
packages for my entire system, and I purchased the CDs to avoid having to do that, is 
there any way to tell apt-get to update only the critically important packages like 
glibc, libstdc++, ncurses, etc. and not the entire system?

have you tried aptitude? it is easier to manage and you can pick and
choose what to install

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Re: Window Managers

2003-01-25 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 04:28:45PM +1100, James Buchanan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I run `startx' I would like afterstep to run, and I would like a menu
 giving me a list of all the window managers/desktop environments that I can
 run.  How do I tell startx to run afterstep by default?  I have done `man
 startx'  but it's all incomprehensible gibberish to me!  :-(  I did look at
 xinitrc but again, I can't read shell scripts.  None of it looks obvious to
 me unfortunately.  Oh yes, apparently Gnome is installed, but how do I run
 it?

i am no expert. but i am enclosing my .xinitrc. i run ion. so if you
want to run afterstep or gnome, just change ion to whatever you like.

here is my file:

#!/bin/sh
xscreensaver -no-splash 
exec ion

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why does X keep throwing messages on console?

2003-01-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

when i run X from a console using a simple startx command, off and on, i
keep getting a line that says

'getmodeline etc etc' on the console from where i fired X.

is there a way to avoid this?

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SOLVED - Re: why does X keep throwing messages on console?

2003-01-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:13:44AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said:
  hello all
  
  when i run X from a console using a simple startx command, off and on,
  i keep getting a line that says
  
  'getmodeline etc etc' on the console from where i fired X.
  
  is there a way to avoid this?
 
 It's just STDOUT and STDERR being displayed there, and it gets logged
 for you anyway.  So if you find it irritating, just redirect it to
 /dev/null (startx  /dev/null 21)

thanx. this seems to be working

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x keeps throwing getmodeline

2003-01-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i typically keep x running but work mostly in console.

every now and then x keeps throwing lines saying

getmodeline something something

on pressing control l these messages disappear.

is there a way to suppress it?

lastly, when i start screen, i cant start x. how to enable it?

tia

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a basic aptitude question - how to install a virtual package

2003-01-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i am really sorry to ask such a basic question. but i could not locate
the help resources.

how do i install a 'virtual' package in aptitude? for instance, i can
see latex as a package in aptitude. when i hit +, it does not get
marked.

thanks in advance for help

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Re: a basic aptitude question - how to install a virtual package

2003-01-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 03:55:45PM -0500, Seneca wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 05:56:37PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  how do i install a 'virtual' package in aptitude? for instance, i can
  see latex as a package in aptitude. when i hit +, it does not get
  marked.
 
 Press enter on the listed virtual package.  You should then get a screen
 similar to that of regular packages.  Under Versions there will be a
 list of all packages that provide that virtual package.  Install one of
 them.

thanks a lot. was a little confused there. so asked!

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A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones;
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A time to gain, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
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is there a program that can read dBaseIII files?

2003-01-14 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i am stuck for good! and i have already done apt-cache search - no use.

i need to open a dBaseIII file and convert it into any other more
sensible format - xls, inclusive.

is there a program that can handle dBaseIII files?

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do amd processors work well with debian?

2003-01-13 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i have used installed debian on pentium 3 and celeron without much
trouble.

typically, i have found out that the amd processors are less expensive
than the intel ones. so, for a new pc was toying with the idea of going
in for an amd processor. athlon or duron?

any feedback if the sailing with amd processors is as smooth as intel
ones.

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Re: do amd processors work well with debian?

2003-01-13 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 07:57:41PM -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote:
 On January 13, 2003 06:00 am, the fabulous Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
  i have used installed debian on pentium 3 and celeron without much
  trouble.
 
  typically, i have found out that the amd processors are less expensive
  than the intel ones. so, for a new pc was toying with the idea of going
  in for an amd processor. athlon or duron?
 
  any feedback if the sailing with amd processors is as smooth as intel
  ones.
 
 I haven't noticed a difference.  At work we have a dual Athlon MP 1900+, at 
 home I have an Athlon XP 1700+ and I just built a system for my mother that 
 is Athlon XP 2000+ based.  I can't complain about stability or other problems 
 on any of these systems.  The dualie runs redhat 7.3, the others run Debian 
 sid.
 
 I think the most important thing is to remember that just because the Athlon 
 is lower cost do not be cheap with other components.  Regardless of Intel or 
 AMD if you go with cheap mobo, ram and *especially* power supplies you are 
 asking for trouble.

well, my idea was that the savings i will have on the processor can be
better utilized for mobo, ram and power supply!

by the way, any baddies when it comes to mobo chipset?

thanx group for help. i think i will be more confident when i go in for
amd this time.

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Re: suggestions for a fast web browser?

2003-01-12 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 06:05:47AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 on Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 03:32:12PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  one of the things that bother me in my set-up is browser. mozilla is
  what i use currently and i have to wait for ages before it loads. for
  text login, i have tried lynx and links. both are decent and quick but
  none of support for folders in bookmarks.
 
 For a general set of reviews:
 
 http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NixBrowsers.

thank you group for all the responses. i think overall, i will stick to
links when it comes to text browsing and shift to galeon when it comes
to x browsing.

dillo is also fast but lacks quite a few features. almost the same for
browsex.

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suggestions for a fast web browser?

2003-01-11 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

my quest for small and fast applications seems to be never ending. :)

one of the things that bother me in my set-up is browser. mozilla is
what i use currently and i have to wait for ages before it loads. for
text login, i have tried lynx and links. both are decent and quick but
none of support for folders in bookmarks.

i am looking for a browser that will load quickly, have bookmarking
ability - preferably with folders.

any suggestions? for both console based as well as gui based browsers
are welcome.

as usual, i have already done apt-cache search but would like to hear
from actual users.

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Re: good mp3 organizer - any suggestions?

2003-01-09 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:27:29AM +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 07:38, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  hello all
  
  -   if possible, also play files/ playlists and may be act as a
  front for some other music playing app
 A while ago I've used freeamp which I think done at least most of those
 things. it is an X app though.
 Another option (what I'm doing now) is to run a dedicated host with all
 your mp3 collection which runs gjukebox (gjukebox.sourceforge.net) and
 you can do anything from there (it's web based) including a lynx
 theme.

too complicated for a newbie like me. i was looking at something much
simpler. thanx for your help anyway.

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Re: lightweight window manager - any sugegstions?

2003-01-09 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 03:54:44PM -0800, Peter Hicks wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 11:12:48AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 hello all
 
 i am doing most of my work in console and was looking for a small and
 fast window manager for some occasional work there.
 
 aesthetics, bells and whistles do not matter much. speed and overheads
 matter a lot.
 
 i have heard about ratpoison and [black | flux]box. any feedback from
 actual users is welcome. i am currently using windowmaker.
 
 
 I find ion to be kind of cool.

thanks all for help. i am currently settling for icewm-lite and trying
ratpoison, ion.

but i really do not know if the change in speed between windowmaker and
either of these is significant.

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Re: Unalbe to get system to work

2003-01-08 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:32:09PM -0700, Walker wrote:
 I have a Compaq Presario 1247 Laptop on which I tried to install Debian.  I get to 
the GNOME Desktop Manager screen but can't get past it.  I type in the user name and 
password I setup during installation, but all it does is flip through a couple of 
quick screens and default back to the login.  I don't get an error or anything about 
a wrong user name or password either.  Is my display set wrong or something?  The GDM 
screen looks fine.  So what could it be?
 
 Also how do I get out of this screen, the GDM, to the line based version again or 
even just shutdown the system?

this is easy. hit control alt f1. this will take you to a text login
screen. login as root and issue shutdown -h now.

alternatively, you can hit control alt delete from anywhere to shutdown
the system

if you are running ext3, you can switch off the power without much
damage

so, cheers!

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good mp3 organizer - any suggestions?

2003-01-08 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i have a large mp3 collection. on different cds and different
directories on my hard disk.

i want an organizer that will

-   keep track of files in different locations including different
cds

-   let me rename files based on id3 information

-   let me move files based on id3 information

-   let me search files based on artist/ folder/ song name/ id3 tag
content, etc.

-   if possible, also play files/ playlists and may be act as a
front for some other music playing app

i will prefer to have this in text mode (console app. not x)

i have already done apt-cache search. but i will like to hear from
someone who has actually used the application.

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lightweight window manager - any sugegstions?

2003-01-08 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i am doing most of my work in console and was looking for a small and
fast window manager for some occasional work there.

aesthetics, bells and whistles do not matter much. speed and overheads
matter a lot.

i have heard about ratpoison and [black | flux]box. any feedback from
actual users is welcome. i am currently using windowmaker.

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Re: lightweight window manager - any sugegstions?

2003-01-08 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Mohammed Sameer wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Once upon a time Sandip P Deshmukh wrote @ Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:12:48 +0530
 
  hello all
  
  i have heard about ratpoison and [black | flux]box. any feedback from
  actual users is welcome. i am currently using windowmaker.
  
 I didn't try black/flux box
 but i'm currently using pekwm and i can say that it's very lightweight specially 
the CVS version ;)

oops - i could not find a deb package for it in my aptitude. :(

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Re: Mutt questio: Foward w/atachments?

2003-01-07 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 08:45:13PM +0100, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
 On Mon Jan 06, 2003 at 08:47:16PM -0500, the boisterous
 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote to me:
How can I confgiure mutt so that when I foward an email, the atachments are
fowarded as well?
   
  Well, I was finally able to get to that site (it seemed to be down most of
  the day), and that section might help you, but if it applies to my
  question, I don't see how.

i agree with you. i too dont think that section carries the answer to
your question, atleast not in simple english ;)

  Let me spell this out in more detail. What I want to do is that when I
  foward a mesage that has atachments (say a couple of jpeg images), I wnat
  to be able to have these fowarded as atachments to the original mail. 
  It would be nice if this was the default behavior, but being prompted would
  be an OK solution.

knowing the way mutt works, i think it can be done. further, if it can
be done, it can be done as default or prompt! 

 As this document states the behaviour of forwarding messages is
 controlled with a few variables in your ~/.mutt/muttrc. It depends on
 your default behaviour, but setting following
 
 set mime_forward=ask-yes

did this. i also did set mime_forward_decode also as ask-yes. still,
while forwarding the message, my mutt is not attaching the attachments.

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which files can be safely deleted?

2003-01-02 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

my debian computer is doing fine. every day i am rediscovering more
efficient ways of using the resources available.

after doing the installation, i ran deborphan and removed all
unnecessary packages. then i checked in /home/sandip and deleted all
unwanted stuff in terms of configuration files, etc.

i know that /tmp and /var/run is cleared every time i boot up.

i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i
can delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim
keeps a log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?

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Re: which files can be safely deleted?

2003-01-02 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:33:15AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:51:14PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i
  can delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim
  keeps a log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?
 
 Install deborphan and run it every once in a while.  Every few months
 it probably doesn't hurt to have it scrap the keeper file.  This will
 trim the fat among debian packages.

oh sure. i am already doing that.

 On my system at least, /usr/src occasionally bloats to ungodly
 proportions if I've been doing a lot of stuff by hand.

i do not do any programming. /usr/src is empty! or compilation, etc.

 /usr/local/ will get up there, too, if you install commercial software
 (like games from id Software or Loki Linux Entertainment[1]).

i do not do this either. :)

 If /var/log is building up larger than you are comfortable with, check
 out the logrotate documentation to automate trimming things down a bit
 more.

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Re: which files can be safely deleted?

2003-01-02 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:54:53AM -0800, nate wrote:
 Sandip P Deshmukh said:
 
  i was wondering if there are any other redundant log files etc that i can
  delete to make more space available. i for instance know that exim keeps a
  log and it can be safely deleted. any other files?
 
 if your that tight on space you may not need documentation, so I
 would say remove any *doc packages you have as well as manpages then
 erase /usr/share/man and /usr/share/doc that is 74MB worth of data on
 my system here. It would be better to remove this then to remove log files.
 You could also configure logrotate to rotate logs out of existance faster.
 Also /usr/share/info can go (remove any info related packages first)

okay. thanks for all your help. my syslogd and klogd etc were getting
large and i was just wondering if it will be okay to delete them. but
surely, i will look at removing documentation.

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how to setup postgres user

2002-12-31 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

recently i added a beancounter package.

when i run setup_beancounter, it says, no postgressql user 'sandip'. it
also recommends me to su - postgres.

when i do this, neither my root password nor my user password works!
what am i doing that is incorrect?

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spamassassin - how to stop defanging?

2002-12-26 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i have done man spamd, man spamc and man spamassassin. i have also done
man Mail::SpamAssassin::etc. none of this could help me solve this
problem. it is actually a problem of semantics - i think.

the default set-up of spamassassin changes header, etc. it also changes
attachment content type to plain text.

here is what man spamassassin says about this:

   X-Spam-Report: header for spam mails
   The SpamAssassin report is added to the mail header if
   the report_header = 1 configuration option is given.

   Content-Type: header
   Set to text/plain, in order to defang HTML mail or
   other active content that could call back to the
   spammer.

i would like spamassassin *not* to change content type. i have tried
report_header 0 in my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs.

report_header   0

this does not help.

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Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-23 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 03:03:38AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said:
  are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word
  documents in console?
 
 antiword does great for word docs, and there's pstotext and ps2ascii
 (and ps2this and ps2that . . .), but they all seem to do a kind of
 spotty job here.  Some files aren't properly displayed, and some aren't
 formatted right, and so on.  If you find one that works really well for
 you, write back.

well, i  was impressed with antiword. real great job. goes as close to
the original word document as possible. routine documents such as
resumes are handled really well.

all pdf readers leave a lot to be desired. is it not surprising that
while we have readers for a proprietary format like msword, there is
nothing as good for 'portable' document format? :)

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Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-23 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 04:01:32AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
  On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:44:53PM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote:
   On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:30:42PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57:00AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word
 documents in console?
   
   pstotext will handle much pdf stuff.
  
  pstotext just extracts the text and throws it on screen. the complete
  formatting is lost. are there any better utilities?
 
 Did anyone mention pdftotext?  It's part of the Xpdf set of tools --
 xpdf-utils package.

nobody had. thanx for mentioning it. does a much better job than
pstotext! :)

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hit people.  Put things back where you found them.  Clean up your own mess.
Don't take things that aren't yours.   Say you're sorry when you hurt someone.
Wash your hands before you eat.  Flush.  Warm cookies and cold milk are good
for you.  Live a balanced life.  Learn some and think some and draw and paint
and sing and dance and play and work some every day.
Take a nap every afternoon.  When you go out into the world, watch for
traffic, hold hands, and stick together.  Be aware of wonder.  Remember the
little seed in the plastic cup.   The roots go down and the plant goes up and
nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that.  Goldfish and
hamsters and white mice and even the little seed in the plastic cup -- they all
die.  So do we.
And then remember the book about Dick and Jane and the first word you
learned, the biggest word of all: LOOK.  Everything you need to know is in
there somewhere.  The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation.  Ecology and
politics and sane living.
Think of what a better world it would be if we all -- the whole world
-- had cookies and milk about 3 o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with
our blankets for a nap.  Or if we had a basic policy in our nation and other
nations to always put things back where we found them and cleaned up our own
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text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-22 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

from a gui die-hard, i have started using console extensively. mutt, vim
and all :) much faster - i must say.

off and on, i get mail having pdf files and word documents as
attachments. i have to run x and use xpdf and abiword for these.

are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word
documents in console?

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Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-22 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:30:42PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57:00AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word
  documents in console?
 
 Dunno about pdf, but package 'catdoc' should help with word documents.

thanx. this works great. one problem solved :)

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printing files with relevant mailcap entries

2002-12-22 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

the question probably exposes my complete ignorance of printing system!

if i do lpr somename.pdf, will it print properly? or do i have to open
the file in pdf reader and then fire a print command?

similarly, for other file types that have a mailcap entry.

for instance, lpr somename.doc, etc.

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Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-22 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 02:07:33AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 00:45, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:30:42PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
   On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57:00AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word
documents in console?
 
 From the pdf side, it depends on whether or not you use framebuffer -
 fbgs will do it there. Offhand, I'd suspect that if you want to study
 ghostscript rendering to SVGA, it *could* be done in non-framebuffer
 environments, but it is not a *totally trivial* task.

oh - nothing so complicated. i am just looking for a way to avoid going
to x to see pdf and word documents - actually, text in these documents,
preserving the formatting. no problem if they are converted into, say,
html.

i had turned off frame buffer some time back to boost speed. but if
necessary, i can turn it on. in any case, it will be a lesser evil to
have frame buffer on than to have to run x.

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Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?

2002-12-22 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:44:53PM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:30:42PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57:00AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
   are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word
   documents in console?
  
  Dunno about pdf, but package 'catdoc' should help with word documents.
   
 
 pstotext will handle much pdf stuff.

pstotext just extracts the text and throws it on screen. the complete
formatting is lost. are there any better utilities?

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just survived from unbootable system - what was wrong?

2002-12-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

one of the differences between debian and windows was that debian did
not turn numlock on by default while booting.

in my quest for finding a solution for this problem, i came across a
script on this mailing list which claimed to do this. here is the
script:

#!/bin/sh
INITTY=/dev/tty[1-6]
for tty in $INITTY; do
setleds -D +num lt; $tty
done

i made a file setleds in /etc/init.d and created a link named S20setleds
to it in /etc/rc2.d as was suggested in the post.

and disaster struck. my system refused to give me a login prompt!! i did
init=/bin/bash at lilo. this gave me a prompt but mounted filesystem
readonly. how do i make it read-write?

lastly, i booted from installation cd and mounted my filesystem, removed
the link and could get to boot in normally.

what is wrong with the script? is there any way in which i can make num
lock turned on on all virtual consoles?

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Re: just survived from unbootable system - what was wrong? *solved*

2002-12-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:35:11AM -0500, Shawn Lamson wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:47 +0530
 Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello all
  
  in my quest for finding a solution for this problem, i came across a
  script on this mailing list which claimed to do this. here is the
  script:
  
  #!/bin/sh
  INITTY=/dev/tty[1-6]
  for tty in $INITTY; do
  setleds -D +num lt; $tty
  done
 victim of cut and paste from an html page?

you said it! indeed victim of cut and paste from an html page! and a
nice lesson to learn

  and disaster struck. my system refused to give me a login prompt!! i did
  init=/bin/bash at lilo. this gave me a prompt but mounted filesystem
  readonly. how do i make it read-write?
 mount -t ext2 -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /
 or adjust to your system

thanx. it is valuable! actually r and w both are switches that can be
passed to mount. so i thought it would be mount -r -w :)

 HTH

it did!

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Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-18 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 10:05:47PM +0100, Chris Niekel wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 08:47:00AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:30:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
   hello all
   
   after installing spamassassin, my system has become terribly slow! i
  
  I experienced this also.   The whitelist won't help, since the message
  still gets processed by spamassassin.
  
 Had the same problem. I added:
 queue_only_load = 5
 to my exim.conf. This stops exim from delivering the messages (and
 starting spamc) when the load is over 5. After an outage of my adsl my
 load shot into the 80, so this seems like a definite improvement. I
 haven't noticed the sluggishness after that.

which section do i put this into? i checked my exim.conf but could not
find an entry queue_only_load.

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Re: how to stop spamassassin from scanning some messages?

2002-12-18 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:28:28PM -0800, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
 
  On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:55:18PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  
   sorry. i do not use procmail. can a similar thing be achieved with
   .forward file that is used as a exim filter?
 
  The exim filter documentation is extremely well-written and extremely
  comprehensive.

well, it took me some time to understand what the filter.txt was talking
about. but now i am okay with it.

in the meantime, group, just correct me if i am wrong in my
understanding of mail processing.

fetchmail gets the mail from remote server and hands it over to exim
exim then applies rules etc. in exim.conf
exim then applies rules etc. in .forward (exim filter file)

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Re: simple exim configuration

2002-12-18 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:57:02PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
 John Griffiths wrote:
 
 At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
 Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt?

use dselect. much easier than apt-get :)

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Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 10:29:59AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:02:07AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:59:16PM +0100, DEFFONTAINES Vincent wrote:
   It _might_ be that you installed razor (or razor2) (spamassassin uses razor
   if it is installed, by default).
  
  i did install razor. do you mean that if i remove razor, things will get
  better? i was under an impression that spamassassin 'needs' razor to run
  properly.
 
 It does not.

well, i removed razor and things are okay now.

thanks for the help

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Re: change terminal type while using 'screen'

2002-12-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:44:17AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
 -- Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 (on Tuesday, 17 December 2002, 12:09 PM +0530):
  On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:25:52PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
   Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-17 10:42:31 +0530]:
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:50:15AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
   screen -T $TERM

well, i did this. now when i start screen and do echo $TERM, it does say
linux. however, there seems to be some error as some applications like
centericq and mutt do not look the same!
   
   The 'screen' program is doing yet another terminal emulation step.
   Therefore it may not match the underlying terminal capabilities
   exactly especially in the areas of color emulation.
  
  oh - i do not know if all this offers any advantage. if it does not, i
  wish they had left it untouched.
 It's been too long since you started the thread for me to remember what
 term you're using. Is it xterm? I know that xterm has some issues of its
 own.

when i do echo $TERM at bash prompt, it shows linux. i hope it answers
your question.

sorry - i am a newbie so may be i have not answered your question fully.
ask if you want to know more information.

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Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:28:29PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 10:57:59AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 | On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 08:47:00AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 |  If you use spamc, which is the daemonized version of spamassassin, it
 |  will run somewhat faster, since it is written in C rather than perl. 
 | 

well, i am using spamc spamd set-up anyway. or i think so. i read
documentation on spamd, spamc and spamassassin and that made me feel
that i am indeed using that set-up.

 | i also experienced the same problem! what is the solution for avoiding
 | concurrent messages?
 
 Don't scan messages concurrently.  There are a number of ways to
 achieve that.  As you have no doubt noticed by now, there are very
 many pieces that make up a mail handling system.  Each one does
 something slightly different and each site/user can plug them together
 a little differently and achieve a different (or similar) effect.  One
 way to limit concurrency is to use the -m option to spamd (see the

i did append option -F 0 -m 3 to /etc/default/spamassassin. hope it
helps

 | this brings me to a question, how is spamassassin better than a
 | .forward file that can do a somewhat similar job?

thankx for an easy to understand explanation. the question i really will
like to have an answer for is 'how to by-pass spamassassin on some
messages?' i think it deserves a new thread and i am staring one :)

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how to stop spamassassin from scanning some messages?

2002-12-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i have been struggling to set spamassassin right. it slows down my
system terribly. almost makes me feel as if i am using a windows pc :)

i have spamc, spamd installed. i do not have razor. i use exim,
fetchmail, mutt to read my mail.

i already have the following in /etc/default/spamassassin:

# Change to one to enable spamd
ENABLED=1

# Options
# See man spamd for possible options. The -d option is automatically added.
OPTIONS=-F 0 -m 1

following is my ~/.spamassassin/user-prefs file:

# How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
 required_hits  5

# Whitelist and blacklist addresses are now file-glob-style patterns, so
# [EMAIL PROTECTED], *@isp.com, or *.domain.net will all work.
# whitelist_from[EMAIL PROTECTED]
whitelist_from debian*

i was told in a separate thread that whitelisting does not help.
spamassassin still processes the mail. how do i make spamassassin bypass
some messages altogether? i will prefer to do it as a normal user than
as root.

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Re: how to stop spamassassin from scanning some messages?

2002-12-17 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:17:01AM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:59:02AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  i was told in a separate thread that whitelisting does not help.
  spamassassin still processes the mail. how do i make spamassassin bypass
  some messages altogether? i will prefer to do it as a normal user than
  as root.
 
 You are using procmail to filter your mail aren't you?  In that case,
 just move the rule that filters your debian stuff into a different mbox
 (i guess i can assume you are doing that?), otherwise there might be
 some kind of conditional procmail rules but i don't know enough about
 it... try reading the manpage.

sorry. i do not use procmail. can a similar thing be achieved with
.forward file that is used as a exim filter?

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change terminal type while using 'screen'

2002-12-16 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i recently started using screen. i find it useful.

without screen running, when i do echo $TERM, it shows linuc. however,
on starting screen, if i do echo $TERM, it shows screen.

is there a way by which i can force screen to make terminal appear to be
linux? this will solve several of my colour related problems.

i read the manpage of screen and went through /etc/screenrc file. too
complicated and technical for a newbie like me to understand. could
someone tell it to me in simple to understand terms?

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Re: change terminal type while using 'screen'

2002-12-16 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:50:15AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-16 19:07:42 +0530]:
  is there a way by which i can force screen to make terminal appear to be
  linux? this will solve several of my colour related problems.
 
 Yes, a confusing thing that the newer version does but the older
 version did not do.  I wish it went back to the older configuration.
 It makes logging into other systems which don't have screen installed
 a problem.
 
 You have two options.  You can start up screen with -T $TERM.
 
   screen -T $TERM

well, i did this. now when i start screen and do echo $TERM, it does say
linux. however, there seems to be some error as some applications like
centericq and mutt do not look the same!

so, i changed my vim to vim -T linux to make things run for the time
being.

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Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-16 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 08:47:00AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:30:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  hello all
  
  after installing spamassassin, my system has become terribly slow! i
  thought that it must be becasue spamd is trying to scan all messages. so
  i modified ~/.spamassassin/user-prefs. here is how it looks:
  what is more, off and on, a message props up saying
  
  kmod - runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
  
  how do i restore sanity with spamassassin on? for writing this e-mail, i
  have turned it off
  
 
 I experienced this also.   The whitelist won't help, since the message
 still gets processed by spamassassin.
 
 If you use spamc, which is the daemonized version of spamassassin, it
 will run somewhat faster, since it is written in C rather than perl. 

i did dselect and searched spamc - it was not there. is there a debian
package for spamc?

 It only helps a little, however, since it still needs to invoke
 multiple exim processes.  I ended up also running fetchmail as a daemon
 as well, getting messages from my ISP every ten minutes or so to avoid
 being overrun by a large number of concurrent messages.

i also experienced the same problem! what is the solution for avoiding
concurrent messages?

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Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-16 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:59:16PM +0100, DEFFONTAINES Vincent wrote:
 It _might_ be that you installed razor (or razor2) (spamassassin uses razor
 if it is installed, by default).

i did install razor. do you mean that if i remove razor, things will get
better? i was under an impression that spamassassin 'needs' razor to run
properly.

this brings me to a question, how is spamassassin better than a .forward
file that can do a somewhat similar job?

 To be sure you don't use razor, try to add
 
 score RAZOR_CHECK 0
 score RAZOR2_CHECK 0
 
 in your /etc/spamassassin/local.cf

anyway, i will just remove razor and see what happens

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Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-16 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:43:26PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
 The Debian list servers run spamassassin for you. You can configure
 things so that spamassassin is run only on messages not from a Debian
 list. That might reduce your load significantly.
 
 In my .procmailrc I first look for X-Spam-Status first, then I filter
 all the debian list messages off, and only after all that I run
 spamassassin. Which means that less than 1% of may mail actually runs
 via spamassassin locally.

can a similar thing be done without .procmailrc? i do not have procmail
on. have not yet felt the need for procmail. but i do have a very
rudimentary .forward file.

by the way, how is mail actually handled? fetchmail - exim - .forward
- spamassassin or some other way?

i will also reiterate my earlier question here. if i have a .forward
file and keep adding filters there, will it be a close substitute to
spamassassin?

 But if it is speed you are looking for.

i sure am looking for speed. my system was 'crawling'!!

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Re: change terminal type while using 'screen'

2002-12-16 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:25:52PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Sandip P Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-17 10:42:31 +0530]:
  On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:50:15AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 screen -T $TERM
  
  well, i did this. now when i start screen and do echo $TERM, it does say
  linux. however, there seems to be some error as some applications like
  centericq and mutt do not look the same!
 
 The 'screen' program is doing yet another terminal emulation step.
 Therefore it may not match the underlying terminal capabilities
 exactly especially in the areas of color emulation.

oh - i do not know if all this offers any advantage. if it does not, i
wish they had left it untouched.

anyway, i will mark the thread as solved. :) and thanx for your help.

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clothes were wrinkled and old. They crashed out hospitality suites and they
made rude noises during my presentation.
The manager said: I should have never sent you to the conference.
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urgent - system slow after spamassassin

2002-12-15 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

after installing spamassassin, my system has become terribly slow! i
thought that it must be becasue spamd is trying to scan all messages. so
i modified ~/.spamassassin/user-prefs. here is how it looks:

whitelist_from debian*
whitelist_from mutt*
whitelist_from vim*

now i realize that this has hardly made any difference. for instance,
messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] appear to be coming from the
sender.

what is more, off and on, a message props up saying

kmod - runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped

what is that?

when my system was crawling, i tried top and it showed several exim
processes - some of them defunct!

how do i restore sanity with spamassassin on? for writing this e-mail, i
have turned it off

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what terminal type?

2002-12-13 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i recently installed a package called screen. its manual says that it
tries to provide functionality of a dec vt100 terminal.

it is a good package. but i notice that colors do not appear same after
i use it. my guess is it has something to do with the terminal type
emulated.

how do i know what terminal type is being emulated? and how do i change
it?

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stock price chart utility?

2002-12-13 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

one thing i really miss in linux is some good package that can plot
stock price charts.

in dos, there used to be metastock and the same continued in windows3.1
and win95. i tried gstalker but it is not as good as dos metastock also.

could someone point me to some package that will do the trick? i just
will like to look at charts daily, weekly, monthly, etc and basic
functions such as candlesticks, etc.

it will be great if the program can use and update metastock data.

am i asking for too much? :)

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cans only have 16 oz. of beer in them. Most people will probably keep 
drinking Windows 3.1 Beer until their friends try Windows 95 Beer and say 
they like it. The ingredients list, when you look at the small print, has 
some of the same ingredients that come in DOS beer, even though the 
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spamassasin - how to avoid further false positives and negatives?

2002-12-12 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello

my spamassasin set-up was the quickest in my entire mail processing
set-up. and it has already started marking SPAM! :)

now, there are some false positives and some false negatives. how do i
make spamassasin learn these mistakes?

i mean, how do i tell spamassasin *not* to mark a particular message as
SPAM and vice versa?

if i mistake not, i will have to do these changes as sysadmin - root.

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recovering nvi sessions?

2002-12-12 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

when i boot up my pc, it throws a message that reads:

recovering nvi session ... done

i checked for the string in dmesg - it was not there.

it has not affected working of my computer anyway. but could someone
tell me where is this message coming from?

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control z - background or stop?

2002-12-12 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

this is a fairly basic question. i checked debian reference - could not
identify solution.

when i hit control z while running a program, i think the program stops
and goes in background. for instance, in links, a web page wont load if
i hit control z.

i wanted to know if there is a way to put a program in background
without stopping it. so i start links, put it in background while it
loads a page and fetch it in foreground after finishing of something
inbetween.

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Re: control z - background or stop? * solved *

2002-12-12 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 02:11:55AM -0500, sean finney wrote:
 heya,
 
 On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 12:13:01PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
  i wanted to know if there is a way to put a program in background
  without stopping it. so i start links, put it in background while it
  loads a page and fetch it in foreground after finishing of something
  inbetween.
 
 ^Z puts it stopped in the background.  to tell it to keep on going,
 type bg.  to bring it back into the foreground again, type fg.

thanx. works perfectly

 you can also background a program explicitly from the commandline
 by putting an  at the end of the line (which does more or less the
 same thing as ^Z + bg).

this one i knew and use it often. oh - can we imagine something like
this in dos? :)

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Re: control z - background or stop?

2002-12-12 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 11:16:39PM -0800, nate wrote:
 Sandip P Deshmukh said:
 
  i wanted to know if there is a way to put a program in background
  without stopping it. so i start links, put it in background while it loads
  a page and fetch it in foreground after finishing of something inbetween.
 
 my favorite way to do this is screen.

thanx. it is a good utility. i do not hvae to open several virtual
terminals now :)

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spamassasin help needed

2002-12-11 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

i recently installed spamassasin and it is working wonderfully.

if a particular mails appears to be a spam, it marks it as SPAM
in the index.

i would like to know if i can:

-   automatically move these messages to a particular folder - say
spam

-   block some senders i identify as spam

i use exim and fetchmail to get the mail in almost default set-up and i
use mutt to read mail.

if the same thing can be achieved by changing set-up of say, exim as
well as mutt, i will rather change my mutt settings.

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Re: spamassasin help needed

2002-12-11 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:44:37PM +0100, Oliver Fuchs wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
 
  i would like to know if i can:
  
  -   automatically move these messages to a particular folder - say
  spam
  
 
 Hi,
 add this to your .procmailrc file:

oh - sorry. i do not have procmail on my pc. can i not do it without
procmail? i use exim, fetchmail, mutt for mail

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spamassassin installation help

2002-12-10 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

this is my post to the group after some time. debain had been working
wonderfully.

i have read quite some posts on spamassasin. so went to dselect and read
up material available on that.

i use exim (almost default set-up) and fetchmail (again almost default
set-up) for mail processing. i read mails with mutt.

do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it?

i do not use .forward or .procmailrc file. i am yet to find a need for
either. can i use spamassasin without either of these files?

spamassasin refers to one librazor package. it was not available. i found razor,
though, is it one and the same?

is spamassasin getting to be a default mail processing package?

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Re: spamassassin installation help

2002-12-10 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:26:43PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
 Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 10.25 schrieb Sandip P Deshmukh:
  do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it?
 
 At least with postfix you'll have to integrate SA manually. It should be
 the same with Exim.
 You may want to have a look at this:
 
 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html

it was wonderful documentation. did just what it said and i am already
running spamassasin. there is one difficulty, though. it refers to some
filters in exim.conf file. could someone tell me, where do i place these filters in 
the file? in the beginning? in some specific section? in the end?

the filter per se is given in full. however, not its location in the
exim.conf file.

 But using .procmailrc will be the most simple way to do it IMO.

i am still a bit confused about procmail. i use mutt anyway. and
although i have not yet used folders. but i guess, i can use folders and
folder hooks to sort mail into different mailboxes. do i still need to
use procmail?

  spamassasin refers to one librazor package. it was not available. i found razor,
  though, is it one and the same?
 
 Yes i think so. At least my SA started using Razor when i installed the
 package razor.

how do i make sure that my spamassasin is using razor? i already have
the package installed.

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Re: What [OT] stands for?

2002-12-08 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 03:20:01PM +0900, hiranokazunari wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 Can anyone tell me what [OT] stands for, which I often see in the
 message title box for this mailing list?

group, correct me if i am wrong. it stands for off topic.

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