Re: starting x
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:00:12 +0100, cfk wrote: > after a search of archives and it seems to be working. After that, I wonder > what the incantation is to start kde and perhaps more importantly, where I > can go to figure out a few steps after that, other then googling. tasksel helps a lot with this. You're probably still missing a display manager from your Red Hat experience. Since you're into KDE, I suggest kdm. Though, being a GNOME geek, I also have to point out that GDM is much better ;-) -- Best Regards, | This signature is currently under construction. Sebastian | Please check back later! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: via82cxxx
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:00:13 +0200, Frank Mulder wrote: [unable to open /dev/sequencer] > I can see 'snd_rawmidi' and 'snd_seq_device', so I think it should work. > Any hints to make it work? You're lacking snd-seq-oss, the OSS compatibility module for the ALSA sequencer. -- Best Regards, | This signature intentionally left blank. Sebastian | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to the Compose Key?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:40:09 +0200, Pigeon wrote: > On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 01:52:26PM +, Adam Funk wrote: >> How could I get my right alt key (which as far as I can tell does >> nothing at present) to imitate the left alt key? > > I have ~/.Xmodmap containing: > > keycode 0x40 = Alt_L > keycode 0x71 = Alt_L > > However this doesn't seem to be a complete solution. It works for > enabling either Alt key to be used in Ctrl-Alt-F combinations to > switch VCs. But Alt-F to access the File menu, for example, has to be > left Alt (in eg. mozilla and kword), and Alt-left-mouse-button to drag a > window (in blackbox) also has to be left Alt. Most probably, you didn't add your shiny new Alt key to the modifier map. (Invoking xmodmap without arguments prints the modifier map.) It's been a while since I used xmodmap, so don't take this as definitive advice: keycode 0x40 = Alt_L keycode 0x71 = Alt_L clear mod1 add mod1 = 0x40 add mod1 = 0x71 It's basically the same with the newer XKB interface, although the exact syntax is different of course. > It seems the most complete solution is to dismantle the keyboard and > rewire :-) -- Best Regards, | This signature is currently under construction. Sebastian | Please check back later! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling plex86-kernel-src with 2.6.3 kernel
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:00:11 +0100, Titus Barik wrote: > I'm trying to compile the plex86-kernel-src package using the stock > 2.6.3 kernel from kernel.org on Debian/unstable to no avail. > > host-linux.c:27:31: linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory Replace any #include "linux/modversions.h" by #include "linux/modsetver.h" This header file has changed its name in 2.6. Still, plex86 probably won't work as expected. I didn't try. -- Best Regards, | This signature is currently under construction. Sebastian | Please check back later! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pipe Symbol
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:10:08 +0100, Thomas Sommer wrote: > Hi! > > Since yesterday i'm not able to type a "pipe" or a "bigger than" > "smaller than" symbol. > I cannot determine where this comes from. > > I'm using Debian unstable with 2.4.24 Kernel on a Toshiba Satellite > 1130. X11 or console? German keyboard Layout, I assume? Try starting showkey (console) or xev (X11) and press the <>| key. Any messages? -- Best Regards, | This signature is currently under construction. Sebastian | Please check back later! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 upgrade (mouse)
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:40:16 +0100, James Tappin wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:28:28 -0500 > Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 05:58:36PM -0800, Brian Corman wrote: >> | Sorry about the lack of information. It is a ps/2 mouse, and lsmod >> | doesn't return any mouse related modules. >> >> For 2.6, load the 'psmouse' module to use a PS/2 mouse. Older kernels >> "just work" with PS/2 devices (IOW the hardware handling code is in >> the kernel rather than a module). > > Methinks this is going to be an FAQ (if not a VFAQ or even EFAQ), and as > such should go into the appropriate FAQ as soon as possible. If you do, please feel free to add "pcspkr" to the list. -- Best Regards, | This signature is currently under construction. Sebastian | Please check back later! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
I hope you don't mind if I CC debian-user to keep the thread together. Am Di, den 30.12.2003 schrieb Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. um 03:07: > Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:00:47 +0100, Joseph A. Nagy wrote: > > > > > Subject: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable > > > > Debian 3.0 is no longer unstable ;-) > > I installed 3.0r1 from CD and upgraded from the stable tree although I > did a dist-upgrade to testing/unstable and pull 90-99% of my packages > from there, the other 1-5% come from experimental. Eh... that no longer counts as Debian 3.0 :-) > > Sharing the soundcard can be tricky. In general, only one program at a > > time is in charge of the sound device. That means one user program like > > XMMS or one sound server (ESD or aRts) and its sound clients. > > > > (That's only part of the story -- some soundcards have multiple channels, > > and allow more than one program at a time to make sound; also, the modern > > ALSA drivers can do software mixing. Google search terms: asoundrc dmix.) > > I use SBLive! MP3+ (emu10k1 module) Ah... you're using the OSS sound drivers. If you don't experience any problems with them, you might wish to keep them and not upgrade to ALSA. (Obviously, any ALSA software won't work, but most software only has OSS or ESD/aRts support anyway.) > > >GAIM is set to use Arts (although it is equally soundless using ESD) > > > > Sound server running? > > I assume so. I can run XMMS's sound through ARTS and ESD w/o any problem. Good point :-) > > > and Gnomemeeting is set to use /dev/dsp0 (although it is equally > > > soundless with /dev/dsp1). > > > > > > I just recently upgraded to the latest alsa-base from testing/unstable. > > > Any idea's what is going on? You don't need alsa-base. You're running OSS, and could as well uninstall alsa-base :-) > > alsa-base does not contain any sound drivers. alsa-base is the init.d > > script which loads sound drivers (and a few other technical details). Do > > you have an alsa-modules package installed which matches your kernel? (I > > assume you're running a 2.4 series kernel. 2.6 has ALSA built in.) > > > > Once you have installed the alsa-modules package, you can run > > dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base to select your sound driver. > > > > After that, make sure your user account is member of the audio group. (You > > have to re-login for the group changes to take effect.) Now you should at > > least get XMMS to work with raw ALSA and OSS. > > Thanks for the tips, I'll do that. And yes, I am part of the audio > group. That's how I have sound on XMMS and every other program (mostly > games) except for GAIM and Gnomemeeting (sometimes I run a game and XMMS > together and get both sounds, The SB Live is one of the cards which can do hardware mixing, i.e. support multiple sound apps at once, even without the help of a software sound server. What remains are two programs which have no sound, but the sound driver is obviously working. Looks like a configuration issue, but I don't use either GAIM or Gnomemeeting, so I can't help you there. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: ext2/ext3 filesystems
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:00:23 +0100, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > During the boot, I get the following warning: > > Partition check: > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1 p2 p3 > ext3: No journal on filesystem on ide0(3,1) Sounds like the kernel investigating whether the root partition should be mounted as ext3 (in case a journal is found) or ext2. I think this is not a warning, but a normal message when the kernel is compiled with static ext3 and the root fs is ext2. I'm not sure how to read the (3,1) notation, but Paul's mail looks good :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 03:20:09 +0100, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: > E: Package alsa-modules has no installation candidate > > And yes, I'm running 2.4.18-bf2.4 That would be alsa-modules-2.4.18-bf24 (which I think doesn't exist). You would have to compile your own ALSA driver. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd rom wont work
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:10:05 +0100, Joe9747 wrote: > my cd rom will play dvds but wont read any other kind of cd? > name=GENERATOR> my cd rom will play dvds but wont read any > other kind of cd? A DVD is not a kind of CD. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:00:47 +0100, Joseph A. Nagy wrote: > Subject: Sound Problems With Debian 3.0r1 testing/unstable Debian 3.0 is no longer unstable ;-) > I have ARTS, ESD, and Alsa installed. The only program that has sound > (so far) is XMMS which uses the OSS Sound Driver. Other apps such as > GAIM and GnomeMeeting have no sound at all. Sharing the soundcard can be tricky. In general, only one program at a time is in charge of the sound device. That means one user program like XMMS or one sound server (ESD or aRts) and its sound clients. (That's only part of the story -- some soundcards have multiple channels, and allow more than one program at a time to make sound; also, the modern ALSA drivers can do software mixing. Google search terms: asoundrc dmix.) > GAIM is set to use Arts (although it is equally soundless using ESD) Sound server running? > and Gnomemeeting is set to use /dev/dsp0 (although it is equally > soundless with /dev/dsp1). > > I just recently upgraded to the latest alsa-base from testing/unstable. > Any idea's what is going on? alsa-base does not contain any sound drivers. alsa-base is the init.d script which loads sound drivers (and a few other technical details). Do you have an alsa-modules package installed which matches your kernel? (I assume you're running a 2.4 series kernel. 2.6 has ALSA built in.) Once you have installed the alsa-modules package, you can run dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base to select your sound driver. After that, make sure your user account is member of the audio group. (You have to re-login for the group changes to take effect.) Now you should at least get XMMS to work with raw ALSA and OSS. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome-session-save
> gnome-session-save --help [...] Application options -s, --session-name=STRING Set the current session --kill Kill session --gui Use dialog boxes [...] On the two Sid machines I currently have access to, the command gnome-session-save --kill uses a dialog box even though I didn't say --gui. Is that a bug? I would rather not have a dialog box shown. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possible LKM Trojan , Need Help - Thank You
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:10:14 +0100, Thomas H. George wrote: > I still must learn about the "/rr_moved" directory which blocks my > backups but this is a separate issue so I will post a separate question. man mkisofs, look for rr_moved in various capitalizations. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printer icon
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:00:23 +0200, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > You'll notice that many of these 1- or 2-liners are very general, with > many possible ways of diagnosing/solving the problem. I believe that > this is to increase the number of replies from helpful PeeCee users who > think "finally - someone with a problem that *I* can help with!!". It sounds a bit like an odd conspiracy theory, but I can't think of a better explanation either. ;-) -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie needs help.........
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:20:10 +0200, Zakaria wrote: > Hey I was trying to buy Debian Cd instead of downloading debian... A very good idea actually :-) > but they have for different Architectures Alpha ; ARM ; HPPA ; i386 ; > IA-64 ; m68k ; MIPS ; PowerPC ; S/390 ; Sparc ; source ; Hurd-i386 ; > Hurd-source ... > > I'm getting Debian for my VIA EPIA M1, Would that would be i386? The VIA EPIA definitely is a i386 compatible system. The others won't work (well, Hurd would, but Hurd is _very_ experimental). Get the i386 CD set. -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 SSL/TLS client: refusal to verify certificate
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 03:40:07 +0200, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Perhaps it's failing because it can't verify a certificate chain from a > trusted root certificate? You might need to grab the thawte CA cert and > append it to your tlscerts.out. You are right. Exim doesn't even care about the server's certificate. When I concatenate all Thawte root certs (from the ca-certificates package) into tlscerts.out, Exim can derive the validity of the GMX certificate. I find that a bit strange, since I cannot see why I should trust Thawte more than I trust my email provider, but so be it > Just a guess ... I'm doing some testing right now to try to get a better > answer. None needed :-) Thank you very much! -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printer icon
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:30:15 +0200, Zeeblanc wrote: > I have a Lexmark z 11 printer.Until I was connected to aol 9.0 optimized > it worked fine the icon was on my task bar. Can anyone enlighten me why _Windows_ users keep posting their [CENSORED] questions to this list? -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is Debian's initrd located?
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 01:00:21 +0200, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Not all linux kernels use initrd. RedHat does by default, I think, but > I don't think debian does. Most precompiled Debian kernels don't boot without an initrd. bf24 is an exception. -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to build Debian 2.4.20, -21, or -22 kernel package for woody?
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:40:09 +0200, Daniel B. wrote: > What exactly do I need to do to build locally for woody a Debian kernel > package based on a kernel version from testing or unstable? (1) Get the kernel-image-2.4.22 package that you want to "convert", unpack it manually (dpkg-deb -x) and grab the boot/config-2.4.22-blah file from it. You can delete the rest. (2) Get kernel-source-2.4.22 from Sid and install it. (3) Install kernel-package and the initrd stuff from Woody. (4) Untar the kernel source in /usr/src, and copy the config from above into your kernel tree as "kernel-source-2.4.22/.config" (note the dot). (5) make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version -$WHATEVER --config oldconfig \ kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_doc (6) Clean up. Kill /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.22 and install your shiny new *.debs. Phew, I hope I didn't forget anything ;-) You might have to fiddle with the initrd stuff a bit to get it working. Being impatient, I simply changed the kernel config to link all modules which are required for booting statically. That's not how it's supposed to be done, but I was compiling my own kernel anyway... -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim4 SSL/TLS client: refusal to verify certificate
Hello list,
I'm trying to set up an Exim4 SMTP daemon which acts as a "proxy" server
for a few PCs. It does local deliveries, and forwards outgoing mail to an
external smarthost. That works pretty good now -- the only problem is the
SSL/TLS feature. I want the connection between my Exim and the smarthost
to use TLS, because that part is routed across the Internet.
Exim seems to use TLS (STARTTLS to be exact) when delivering mail. I have
enabled the "hosts_require_tls" feature. It does not however verify the
certificate of the remote host by default (happily sends passwords to
other machines, too, when I trick it via /etc/hosts).
Then I turned on the tls_verify_certificates feature. I grabbed the
certificate from the smarthost with the "openssl" cli utility, and saved
it to a PEM format file. Exim seems to understand this file format -- if I
use the two other file formats offered by "openssl", it complains about an
illegible file. With the PEM format file, I get the following log:
[connecting...]
SMTP>> STARTTLS
read response data: size=32
SMTP<< 220 {mp009} Ready to start TLS
initializing GnuTLS as a client
read RSA and D-H parameters from file
initialized RSA and D-H parameters
no TLS client certificate is specified
verify certificates = /etc/exim4/tlscerts.out
initialized certificate stuff
initialized GnuTLS session
TLS certificate verification failed: peerdn=/C=DE/S=Bavaria/L=Munich/O=GMX
GmbH/CN=mail.gmx.net
LOG: MAIN
TLS error on connection to mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]: certificate verification
failed
ok=0 send_quit=0 send_rset=1 continue_more=0 yield=1 first_address=135166528
213.165.64.20 in hosts_require_tls? yes (matched "0.0.0.0/0")
[reports failure, other blurbs...]
Certificate verification failed -- how can that be? I don't want Exim to
question my certificate file. It should just check if the remote host is
the same as it used to be.
"tlscerts.out" contains a single PEM certificate, which was copied from
exactly that host mail.gmx.net. Then "openssl" utility claims that this
certificate is valid when logging onto the SMTP host. I know Debian's Exim
is compiled against GnuTLS, not OpenSSL, but they're supposed to be
compatible, right?
My transport section:
t_smtp:
driver = smtp
hosts_require_auth = 0.0.0.0/0
hosts_require_tls = 0.0.0.0/0
tls_verify_certificates = /etc/exim4/tlscerts.out
Any ideas? Sorry if that is an obvious question, but the Exim manuals
don't spend a lot of time explaining how this feature is supposed to work,
and Google wasn't too friendly either...
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Re: uhci
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:10:05 +0200, Sidney Brooks wrote: > I want to use a usb printer with Debian woody. From what I read, I must > install the module uhci to do this. I do not know where to find this > module and how to install it. modconf -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian uptime 497 days
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:50:16 +0200, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Why? Your uptime is the amount of time your machine has been running, > not the output of the uptime command. Just because you overflow a > 32-bit number with it, it doesn't mean your machine is any less stable. BTW, wouldn't this wraparound make an excellent opportunity for introducing a few security patches to the kernel? ;-) -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! | | mailbox in "From" silently drops any mail > 20k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Determining eth -> driver mapping
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:10:08 +0200, michf wrote: > I would rather try to detect which interface is mapped to the driver > instead of assuming the active one is always on eth0. Is there a way to > do that? Have a look the nameif utility. It assigns names by MAC addresses, i.e. it can recognize which card is which even if they have the same driver and you change their order on the PCI bus. MAC addresses are unique, there should be no two cards with the same. -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can kernel 2.4.21 from testing source be installed without removing 2.4.18 from woody?
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:20:18 +0200, Daniel B. wrote: > When make-kpkg from kernel-package makes a kernel-image-...deb package, > which packages(and versions) with that .deb depend on? Things on my > system, or versions from sid? Things from Woody -- at least if you use Woody's kernel-package. >> You won't have much luck with the prepackaged ones as they indirectly >> depend on a few things which you absolutely don't want to have on a >> stable system (such as Sid's libc6). > > Are you referring to prebuilt binary versions or also to prepackaged > versions I'm referring to the precompiled packages (kernel-image) > (e.g., a Debian source package from which I build the binary version)? kernel-source from Sid + kernel-package from Woody gives nice kernels for Woody. -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: en_US.UTF-8 compose bug fixed, but whom should i send it to ?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 04:10:20 +0200, Jan Pfeifer wrote: > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose > > to include any order (for all key compositions). > > i'd like to send the fix to the proper debian maintainer(s). How do I > find this out ? $ dlocate /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose File a (wishlist!!) bug on xlibs. You can use the reportbug utility. -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:30:07 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote: > Now, if RH wants to admit to the error in it's ways and move to > dpkg/apt/deb, Haven't they adopted APT already? Somehow I doubt they'll ever sacrifice rpm :-) -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:40:14 +0200, cr wrote: > ... having just recovered from another screaming encounter with dselect. One word: aptitude -- Best Regards, | Wer Windows-Rechner ins Internet lässt, Sebastian | braucht nicht über SWEN stänkern! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re-installation snag wrong mouse selected
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:30:22 +0200, J Y wrote: > I re-installed deb3.0 and it looked great only two pkgs broke. ? > BUT I screwed up and selected the wrong mouse type. Now I can > login to a great looking desktop but I can't use it! :( > There's a dialog box open at start up ( no big deal) but I can't > alt+function key to a terminal/shell. ctrl+alt+function key (switch to a VT) ctrl+alt+backspace (exit the X server) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can kernel 2.4.21 from testing source be installed without removing 2.4.18 from woody?
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:10:06 +0200, Daniel B. wrote: > What's the newest packaged kernel that can be used on woody (without > removing a stable kernel)? 2.4.22 -- just compile your own. The relevant packages: kernel-source-2.4.22 (you can pilfer that one from Sid), build-essential, kernel-package, libncurses (for menuconfig). You won't have much luck with the prepackaged ones as they indirectly depend on a few things which you absolutely don't want to have on a stable system (such as Sid's libc6). -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tuning ide-scsi/usb drives
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:40:23 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: >> # hdparm -d /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target?/lun0/generic > > Neither of these approaches will work as the drive is IDE behind the USB > port. Thus, the system sees USB, then SCSI. That's why I wrote "In the case of a real IDE device...". As always, my wording was less than clear. A "real" IDE disk which is attached to the system via USB is not a real IDE disk to me :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version handling of apt-get
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:10:08 +0200, Frank Hrebabetzky wrote: > According to the Debian site there exists a magicfilter version 1.2-55 > in 'testing' state (current stable is 1.2-53). > > My /etc/apt/sources.list contains, among others, the lines > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib > non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US > main contrib non-free These sources provide only the non-US section of Debian. magicfilter doesn't break any export regulations, so it isn't part of non-US. You also need the following line: deb ftp://ftp.$YOURCOUNTRY.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib Replace $YOURCOUNTRY with something sensible :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tuning ide-scsi/usb drives
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:30:18 +0200, csj wrote: > Have you tried the cat > /proc trick, something like: > > cat using_dma:1 > /proc/ide/hdX/settings In the case of a real IDE device, you can use the plain old IDE device nodes. My ide-scsi-driven CD-ROM drives (one burner, one reader) respond: # hdparm -d /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target?/lun0/generic /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/generic: using_dma= 1 (on) /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/generic: using_dma= 1 (on) (As you can see, I'm running devfs. The same thing should work with the traditional /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd devices.) > This works for my ide-scsi DVD-ROM drive. Then again maybe what you > need is the "scsitools" package: I don't think the SCSI layer is the problem. Probably, it's the USB driver or hardware. (Missing ehci module? USB1.1 port? USB1.1 cable between USB2.0 devices?) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian stalatie
Hi. I'm German, but I think I understood what you wanted to say -- next time please ask in English. This is an international mailing list :-) On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:40:16 +0200, marinus wrote: > beste user. > kan ik debian instaleren als aternatief voor windows? Yes, you can install Debian in parallel to Windows. You just need an extra partition (better: two) for it in your hard disk. > kan dat op een pentium1 - 166? Yes. You shouldn't try to run KDE or GNOME though. You'll probably be happier which a lightweight desktop environment such as XFCE, Fluxbox, WindowMaker... -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash plug-in hangs Mozilla (sid)
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:30:22 +0200, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > Hi, > > I just downloaded and installed Macromedia Flash plug-in for Mozilla > (1.4-4). When browsing to a web location with flash content, the browser > hangs. I guess you have some app playing sound in the background. Maybe it's a music player such as XMMS, or a sound daemon (watch out for ESD, ARTS, JACK, ...) If your soundcard can only handle one app at a time (most cheap onboard sound chips), then Mozilla will hang until you let the stupid Flash plugin access your soundcard. Possible strategies: a) Get a real soundcard. I like my SB Live very much, and would never again rely on onboard solutions. It has _much_ better sound quality, and is well-supported by ALSA. b) Use your sound daemon. Probably, you're already running one. Put it to use, and run Mozilla via a wrapper such als esddsp or artsdsp. IIRC the Debian packages for Mozilla even can do that automatically for you. Try to dpkg-reconfigure your Mozilla :-) > modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 modprobe: Can't locate module > sound-service-1-0 The stupid thing tries to grab the second sound device, but you don't have one. (Insert the usual anti-Flash rant here.) > I wonder if somebody is using this plug-in in his sid box successfuly. > Any feedback will be very useful for me, so thanks in advance. My success varies a lot. The only websites which yield browser crashes are those with Flash advertising. It's not reproducible, but it happens. May well be Galeon's fault, too, although I don't think so. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: colours of the printer
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:50:20 +0200, Christine Hawksworth wrote: > i could use your help that if this is what you deal with - when i print > out using colour some of the colours are not printing out eg red/yellow > and when i try to print colour words they are not in the right order - > it was fine before Two ideas: First, one of the ink tanks could be empty. If you describe exactly what colours are printed incorrectly, somebody will even be able to tell you which colour it is :-) Red colour (on paper) is AFAIK achieved by compositing yellow and magenta ink. If the magenta tank is empty, you'll get yellow text even though you printed it in red colour. Second, sometimes the fine nozzles on the printing head become obstructed by dried ink. (Often seen when the printer was not being used for several days.) The printing result looks almost like an empty ink tank. You could try to invoke the head-cleaning programme of your printer or bath the printing head in warm water (apply a bit of common sense -- don't put the whole printer in your bathtub please). Of course, all this has nothing to do with Debian... :-) > Please turn HTML mail off when posting to debian-user. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sieve script to filter today's MS annoyances
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:50:14 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> > ..putting procmail between these should do this the nice way. >> >> This leaves me with the bandwidth problem. At about 50 messages an hour >> and a 8 kB/s internet connection, this is not fun :-( > > ..huh? GSM? I use 802.11b. ISDN. Don't even ask how long it takes to perform the daily Sid update :-| -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quake 2 mouse problem
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:50:12 +0200, Andrew Ingram wrote: > Hi List, > > I just found out about "apt-get install quake2" :) > Everything is fine apart from my mouse. It works only horizontally, Enable the mouse look feature. I don't know if there is a menu setting for that. If not, try to enter +mlook at the game console. > but far too quickly No idea -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sieve script to filter today's MS annoyances
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:20:27 +0200, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Shri, I'm getting slammed by this crap. I've got SA running > though...could you clue a SA newbie how to set this up? > > SA is grabbing all "normal" spam, but it's choking on this onslaught. You can add a "score" line to your ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs file. Scroll down to the end, there you should find an example. I'm currently using score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 5 with a threshold of five, i.e. any spam/worm which is stupid enough to contain a Microsoft binary should be caught just because of this modification. (A few of today's email worm get through because they get negative scores on other tests though. After all, SA is a spam eater, not a anti-virus by design... I should probably investigate sa-learn, or increase the MS_EXE rating to about 99.) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sieve script to filter today's MS annoyances
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:40:23 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:31:26PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> > Use fetchmail to download your mail and feed it to exim for local >> > delivery. Exim can run spamassassin for you. If the download volume >> ..putting procmail between these should do this the nice way. > > sure but why does spamassassin not catch those dam worms??? SA is a spam filter. You can abuse it to filter out .exe files. See my other mail in this thread where I explained the exact procedure. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sieve script to filter today's MS annoyances
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:00:18 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..putting procmail between these should do this the nice way. This leaves me with the bandwidth problem. At about 50 messages an hour and a 8 kB/s internet connection, this is not fun :-( -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing g++
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:40:12 +0200, A. Novruzi wrote: > Now, I try to install g++. The system complains different problems > like the package x requires package y, while y requires x. So it does > not install g++. Please show the exact message. Probably it's just some old package which apt-get doesn't dare to remove. Once you remove it manually, the installation should work. > My previous g++ worked perfeclty but what I have now, gcc, it does not > know any *.h classes. What's a *.h class? Do you mean header files? > Do I have to make a new install of my Debian or somthing better is possible. No, I'm 99% sure that you don't have to reinstall. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (none)
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:00:16 +0200, hotmail wrote: > Hi > > I'm looking for BIOS drivers and maybe some info for Megastar TI6NL > 0.00, 3xPCI, 3xISA, 1xAGP, AMIBIOS. Can you please send me the URL where > I can find some more information. > > OS:WinXP Why do you think that a Debian mailing list could help you with locating Windows drivers? -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No screens found
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:00:22 +0200, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Tried: > xf86config: lack of success > dpkg-reconfigure xcommon-xfree: went through the whole process, tried > everything, always 'no screens found' "No screens found", "The X server cannot be started": Those are no proper error messages. You should post all relevant lines from your XFree86 log files (to be found under /var/log), especially those which start with (EE) or (WW). The Device section from your XF86Config might be helpful, too. > reboot: X-server cannot be started, you want to run the config ? 'Yes', > but still no success > > The card is detected by lspci: PCI 01:00.0 ATI Rage 128 Pro TF Should be supported, IIRC. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with jigdo use
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:00:07 +0200, shatam bhattacharya wrote: > Hi, > >should I burn the .tmp file if some decumentation files are >missing in the downloaded packages. I am using jigdo to burn CDs >for woody 3.0r1. Did you read the message you were replying to? Please do. > Hi, I beg your pardon, I don't speak HTML. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub/lilo question
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:20:09 +0200, Chris McQueeny wrote: > As Ext/3 has matured a great deal since it was released, my opinion is > that it is entirely superior to Ext/2 at least. The journalling > capabilities greatly increase speed and reliability in many cases. It increases speed in exactly one case: When the system has crashed or suffered a power loss without cleanly unmounting the disks. Then, ext3 will save you a fsck run. In all other cases, performance can't be any better than plain old ext2. I'd expect it to perform worse than ext2 actually. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which FS to use ?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:10:10 +0200, Jacob Anawalt wrote: > In other cases, because ext3 is writing it's journal to a disk every few > seconds, it could be a little slower. Since most systems aren't normally > under intense I/O, this is usually unnoticable. You do have the option > of storing the journal to a different disk. The 2.4 series had some serious problems in that area. I once had several ext3 filesystems mounted and observed regular "load spikes". I.e. the system would jump from 0 to 100% CPU and freeze (!) for about half a second. Then everything goes back to normal again, and a few minutes later comes the next spike. I think it had something to do with the flushing of the ext3 journal -- remounting the same partitions as ext2 fixed it. That behaviour was simply unbearable for a workstation and made me abandon ext3. Maybe the preempt/low latency patches could help nowadays. > I've read people suggesting to not use ext3 over ext2 on some > directories (which means different mounts for those directories.) I > think they talked about places like /var/spool/news but I could be very > wrong. /var/spool/news would probably be better served by ReiserFS or XFS. Those filesystems are a bit faster when it comes to directories which conatain literally thousands of files. I haven't tried both, Reiser because of the ever-repeating stories about data corruption and XFS because it hasn't made its way into the vanilla kernel yet. > Maybe /etc would be better served by a Reiser FS. /etc is too small to make a difference anyway, and is crucial for the system to boot. I'd go the safe route and choose a rock solid ext2 or ext3. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sudden increase in size of Debian?
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:20:18 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 19:25, Colin Watson wrote: > >> Any chance of making this signature a bit shorter? Four lines is a >> common maximum. > > It's in rotation. See how much shorter this one is? > > Umm... 1 - 2 Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 Jefferson, LA USA 4 5 "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian 6 because I hate vegetables!" 7 unknown Still makes 3 lines too much. Please cut you signatures down a little bit. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Improved responsiveness: Galeon over remote X11
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 04:30:10 +0200, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 09:08:21PM -0500, Nathan Poznick > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, are you using antialiased fonts? If so, have >> you tried disabling them? It very well may not give you any difference >> in performance, but if I'm thinking properly the antialiasing will be >> happening on the client end (i.e., the slow machine), which could in >> theory cause some icky slowness. > > I am, I think. Where would I check? Try launching GDK_USE_XFT=0 galeon This makes Galeon use X core fonts. It's probably ugly as hell, but might well be faster. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding a directory to apt source
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 04:50:06 +0200, Skippi wrote: > Greetings. I am trying to add a directory to the list of sources for > APT to use for installing deb packages. [snip] > It tells me there is an error in line 10 (the line I'm adding). > > I am adding > > deb file:/home/skippi/0data/backup/debian30/debian My mini-pool uses the following line: deb file:///mnt/local/apt-pool . . Note the two dots at the end. Normally, these dots would indicate subdirectories for the distribution (e.g. stable, sid) and the archive component (main, non-free, contrib). I don't need them, but APT insists :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mousey broken
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:00:13 +0200, Willem.Smit wrote: > > Well... you're using the USB device (/dev/input/mice) and the mouse is > > plugged into the PS/2 port (/dev/psaux). What do you expect :-) > > Only one question - why the hell does my mouse work through > /dev/input/mice on 2.6.0 ??? Your mouse operates under /dev/input/mice when plugged into the PS/2 port? Jesus, they fixed the PS/2 driver in 2.6 :-) > Another thing - I installed gpm last night and ran gpmconfig - it found > nada on /dev/psaux. Added to that - no matter which device file I use: > If the mouse driver initialized properly my optical mouse's light > would've come on. It does on 2.6.0 not on 2.4.22. What mouse protocol did you use? MS Optical probably means either ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2 should work. > > BTW: USB mice work fine with Linux 2.4. > > I know and that's what pees me off so much. On RedHat I had no problems > whatsoever. Well... I've got no problems on Debian :-) YMMV. > I really think i'm missing something very stupid here, but i can almost > guarantee that I've got the right kernel config. I've modprobed mousedev > like Bob suggested and at first it wasn't there , cause i compiled the > module into the kernel at first. If you checked my dmesg files you Sorry, I can't. I'm reading debian-user through the NNTP gateway which seems to strip attachments. > would've seen that the module was in fact there and did start up. > Anyway's > I ripped it out of the kernel and compiled as a module to no avail. Same > problem... Forget about the USB part - as long as i can get the mouse to > work through the PS/2 port - i'll worry about USB later. Some suggestions (I have no definitive list of required modules, I'm compiling the mouse modules statically): * A module which runs your USB hub. Called UHCI, OHCI, EHCI or $WHATEVER. * usbmouse, mousedev, evdev, hid, input. Try loading them all, but I think usbmouse is the correct one. This assumes a 2.4 kernel, I'm not familiar with 2.6 yet. > I'll really appreciate it if anyone can have a look at these to kernel > configuration files. The one is for 2.6.0 on which mousey works the > other for 2.4.22 on which it doesn't. I can't seem to find any > differences in the mouse config parts... > > off topic question: Does sid come with xfree86 4.3 ? Thanx a bunch guys Sid currently has 4.2. I think 4.3 is in experimental. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine and Avseq* files
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:40:11 +0200, arief_mulya wrote: > But I still can get it, Why can't Xine plays avseq*.dat file? It keep > telling me no plugin found. > > While mplayer plays them nicely. But I like xine better, and hoping this > issue can be resolved. > > Any enlightment? Xine is (in my experience at least) relying on the file extension. Rename the beast avseq*.mpeg and it will play them :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian is 10
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:40:22 +0200, tallison wrote: > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > What I late in finding this? Definitely. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mousey broken
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:20:12 +0200, Willem.Smit wrote: > I've got a Microsoft optical USB mouse, but for the sake of linux i plugged > it into the PS/2 port using a little USB->PS/2 port connector thingie. > X was configured to use /dev/input/mice but to no avail... Well... you're using the USB device (/dev/input/mice) and the mouse is plugged into the PS/2 port (/dev/psaux). What do you expect :-) BTW: USB mice work fine with Linux 2.4. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 + Signal 11 = Bad Juju
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 05:00:15 +0200, Bradley Alexander wrote: > I've been seeing problems for the past several weeks and I am finally > beginning to see a pattern. It started about the time I upgraded to a > GeForce4MX after my GeForce2 died. At first I thought it was being > caused by Gnome apps, because it was happening with greater frequency > with Galeon and Evolution (about the only Gnome apps I use). Try turning off the RENDER acceleration of the nVidia driver. The option must be placed somewhere in XF86Config-4, check the nVidia docs for details. GTK2 apps use the RENDER feature for anti-aliased text. Unfortunately, the acceleration in the nVidia driver seems to be buggy. > Is a sig11 still usually hardware? Any other suggestions on fixes? Sorry? -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gdm/desktop password protected shutdown
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 08:20:08 +0200, Jacob Anawalt wrote: > Well shut my mouth... > > Either this is now standard with the latest update for gdm on Sid, or > the feature (prompting for the root password on shutdown/reboot/halt) is > enabled only on the standard greeter. This change was introduced by the latest gdm update. The graphical greeter should do the same. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid CD fails as apt source
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:10:26 +0200, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > I'm trying to use a sid iso image as a apt source. I've successfully > mounted it and added a file entry to sources.list as: > > deb file:/mnt/iso/debian sid main Try apt-cdrom. The easiest way to use apt-cdrom is the apt-setup program. :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I like my email address to be canceled.
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 09:10:12 +0200, vinh ta wrote: > Could you help me to cancel my email address that is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every mail on debian-user has this footer: > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also unsubscribe through the web interface http://lists.debian.org/. > > Please turn HTML off when posting to mailing lists. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: broken NIS clients
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:30:13 +0200, Shashank Ashtikar wrote: > Hello friends, > > I recently ran an upgrade on my system which is debian sid(most of it) > during the upgrade I noticed that libc6 version is also being upgraded . > > After the upgrade I noticed that my machine rejects any NIS login. It > allows login through local accounts though. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=206294 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=204711 Probably you should downgrade libc6 for the moment. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Playing .bin files in mplayer and xine
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:20:11 +0200, Klaus Imgrund wrote: > If it is a vcd or svcd it should work with mplayer if - and thats a big > if - whoever made it was compliant to the standards. mplayer is usually my first try (even before Xine), but in this case, it couldn't play the SVCD. There may weel be some kind of standards violation, as mplayer can't play the burned SVCD either. Xine seems to be more forgiving or more correct; I don't know which. The MPEG extraction procedure via vcdxrip works with both players. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Playing .bin files in mplayer and xine
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:50:07 +0200, Mariano Kamp wrote: > Hi, > > I've got a couple of .bin files, which I believe are svcds, aren't > they? It could be anything, .cue+.bin is a common CD-ROM image format. (S)VCD is very likely though. > I can play them with kplayer, but it is horrible as the sound is > skipping. Xine on the other hand won't play them and reports that it > couldn't find a demux?! I just had the same problem. AFAICT you have basically two options: a) Burn the .bin on a CD-R and watch it in Xine. Works like a charm, but it wastes time and a CD-R. b) Install vcdimager, and abuse vcdxrip: vcdxrip -p --nosegments --nofiles -o /dev/null -b That produces an MPEG file in the current dir, which can be played fine in Xine. Again, there is a time penalty. I'm currently thinking if I should raise this issue on a Xine mailing list. Maybe I'm just missing something, or maybe we could add that feature to Xine easily (it can the final VCD after all). -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome icons misbehaving
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:00:14 +0200, Alex Malinovich wrote: > I'm having quite a strange problem with the icons on Gnome menus. When I > log in using the English language settings everything works just fine. > When I log in using Serbian language settings however, the icons seem to > be off-center and odd sizes. [...] > Any ideas where I could start looking to fix the problem? You could start looking in the librsvg, libart or sources. AFAICT there is no known fix yet. All comfort that I can offer you is that you're not alone :-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=198906 -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Why is C so popular?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:00:15 +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:50:11 +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> While I haven't learned much C yet (I can read it better than I write >> it), I do have to ask this one: It's possible to write >> non-braindamaged code in C++ without learning C first? > > Of course it is -- it's just more difficult :-) Just noticed that a little prefix called "non" escaped me when I read your mail. What I really wanted to say is: It is more difficult to write brain-damaged code in C++ without learning C first. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Why is C so popular?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:20:16 +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > First convince me that object oriented programming results in maintainable > and debuggable code, then convince me that C++ is a good implementation of > OO, and then I might consider C++ instead of C. (I know not all the > features of C++ are related to OO, but OO seems to be the main selling > point of C++ vs C) Who ever said that C++ was about OO? C++ is a quite usable OO language, but it can also be used as a "better C", ignoring the non-imperative parts. C++ doesn't force any academically interesting design decisions on you. Stroustrup once called C++ a multiparadigm language, and that's what it is. Strong imperative and OO facilities, but there are a few other influences too (like generic aka templates). -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Why is C so popular?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:50:11 +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: > While I haven't learned much C yet (I can read it better than I write > it), I do have to ask this one: It's possible to write non-braindamaged > code in C++ without learning C first? Of course it is -- it's just more difficult :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Why is C so popular?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:00:24 +0200, Loren M Lang wrote: > 2) C is just faster than C++ This is simply not true. If you know what you're doing, you can write efficient C++ which is just as fast as C. C++ was designed in a way that doesn't make you pay for features you don't use. > Even when I'm writing in C++ I will use fopen() and fprint() for file > I/O then the C++ equilelants because they are noticably faster. iostreams don't have to be slower by design; unfortunately they often are implemented on top of the C library, which forces them to be slower. (Somehow I find C streams more convenient than C++ streams, but that's a matter of personal preference.) > If people don't learn C before C++, it A) a little harder to learn > properly This is common prejudice. However, "idiomatic" C++ is vastly different from C. If your only goal is grasping C++, then learning C is a waste of time. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cyberdocs: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
Please, if you hope for any replies: 1. Enter a subject for your message. Something descriptive at best, not "A Question", "Help", "May I ask something"... you get the idea. 2. Turn HTML off. Posting HTML is considered rude on the Debian mailing lists. 3. Post the complete error message, not only the first sentence. (Connection refused - what connection?) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel source (file name and location)
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:20:14 +0200, M.Forbes wrote: > I need to know what the name and location would be as for the > kernel-source in order to get my Ethernet card working. > I was getting an error in line 27 that the kernel source was not able to > be found. I was able to find that I have to adjust the following line of > code: The relevant packages are kernel-source-2.4.18 kernel-headers-2.4.18-$YOURFLAVOUR Most probably the headers are enough. After installing, have a look at /usr/src. > Mark > Please turn that off. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trident i want driver
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:30:08 +0200, usman wrote: > trident pci audio does not work on windowXP.please send me a driver for > it so i download from u Transitional//EN"> [X] Wrong mailing list. Ask Microsoft instead. [X] HTML mail sent to a mailing list. [ ] Checkboxes are so cool. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nis client problem (still)
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:40:11 +0200, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > Hi all, > I have a debian potato nis server. I have some debian woody desktops > (nis clients) configured. When I updated these machines do sid, the nis > stopped to work! :( Only when I do su - from root account, it "works": > > machine:~# su - user > su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. > (Ignored) > > How I can fix this? The current libc6 is said to have broken NIS. Maybe you can locate an older version of the package and install it. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support - Re: where is the place to enable agp gart in kernel 2.4.21?
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 02:00:14 +0200, Alvin Oga wrote: > - don't buy stuff because somebody said its good or bad.. Very good advice. Different users have different expectations from their hardware. You often hear that Radeons "work" under Linux. Sure, the 2D part works fine, but that's not a reason to get the latest 3D accelerator. > - ie .. read lots of docs > ( ati or nvidia websites usually has up-2-date drivers n stuff ) ATI does not provide drivers for their latest cards (9600 and 9800). At least they did not when I looked two weeks ago. I had to use the FireGL drivers from Schneider, which "sort of" worked (garbled OpenGL and no video overlay support) and lacked proper documentation for the corner cases (namely dualhead). The OpenGL bug has been fixed in the meantime AFAIK. Still, it's a bit frustrating when you compare that to the level of support that nVidia provides. > agp gart stuff is tricky to get working ... fun or annoying stuff If your chipset is supported, it's not tricky at all. Otherwise, it depends - how much of a kernel hacker are you? ;-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse Problems
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:20:14 +0200, William Bradley wrote: > I have just installed Debian (the latest, I forget the number) and got > it going graphically with Window Maker. Can't get the mouse to work > though. It is installed on /dev/psaux That means you have a PS/2 mouse? > and the pointer is on the screen but immobile. This particular machine > is dualed with Windows 98, so I looked up the mouse and though it is a > Logitech mouse, Windows lists it as a PS/2 mouse. Cool. > When I ran "dmesg" it showed the Com 1 was listed as tty00 and I tried > it at that setting and got the same result. Let's forget about COM1 for the moment and assume it's a PS/2 model. (You can find that out easily BTW. Just look at the mouse plug. When it's round like a circle, it's PS/2.) So, the usual "my mouse doesn't work" questions: * What mouse protocol did you set up in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? * Do you run the program "gpm"? (If you don't know what that is, the answer is probably no.) * Exit from X. At the console, type cat /dev/psaux The program should wait and say nothing. Now move the mouse. Do you get random garbage on the screen? -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the place to enable agp gart in kernel 2.4.21?
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:40:10 +0200, Antonio Rodr wrote: > I need to enable agp gart for my radeon 128 mb ati card, according to > the instructions in the xfree site. I pity you. Any cash left to buy nVidia? > However, I can't find the place in the compilation of my image. I am > using kernel-package and kernel-source from testing, in the "make > menuconfig" step. It's listed under "character devices" (great categorization), /dev/agpgart or similar. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latest gcc
Please don't CC me, I'm reading the list. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:20:05 +0200, Mihalis I. Tsoukalos wrote: > I have searched apt-get.org and found gcc 3.2 and gcc 3.3. > If I install either 3.3 or 3.2 version what else do I have to take care? You're using inofficial packages, so the quality might be worse than Debian's packaging. (Theoretically of course, it could be better, too.) > How can I choose between the different gcc versions that I will have? By using command names like gcc-3.2, cpp-3.2, g++-3.2 -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: left out fat32 partition
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:00:10 +0200, oskar debian lists wrote: > One of my vaft32 partition are having surface or other kind of trouble > that make the debian linux go slow in general execution, I have a hard time believing this, but who knows... > i modify and erase the respective line in /etc/fstab, but Debian Linux > still mounting it, i do a: ls /mnt/* -ldh The mount-point doesn't disappear just because you removed a line from /etc/fstab. Removing the line makes sure that the partition doesn't get mounted the next time the system is rebooted. If you want to unmount it without rebooting (which seems likely), use the "umount" command. Afterwards there is an empty directory (the so-called mount point) in your /mnt tree. You can remove it safely, if you don't plan to use it anymore. > and the partition still there under "sys" owner there is a way to leave > it out of the system, or i need reinstall my Debian Linux and left out > that partition since the begining of the installation? No, you don't have to reinstall. Reinstalling hardly ever fixes anything. > > Please turn off HTML mail in your mail client when posting to the mailing list. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X chroot?
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:20:17 +0200, Norman Walsh wrote: > With the (current in unstable) binary incompatibility in libc, I'm > having trouble getting my old commercial X server running. One > suggestion was to run it chroot with the old libc libraries. I can see > how this would theoretically allow me to update the rest of the system. > > So I gave it a try, I setup an /AccelX directory with the commercial > binaries and configuration files and the necessary libraries. It took a > little fiddling to get /proc mounted under /AccelX and to recreate the > obviously necessary devices under /AccelX/dev (console, mem, null, > psaux, tty0, tty7, and xsvc) but I figured it out eventually. mount --bind /dev /AccelX/dev mount --bind /proc /AccelX/proc > xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X > server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > So clearly applications can't talk to the X server. Because I didn't > create some necessary device? Because I've overlooked something obvious? > Clues appreciated. I guess the apps aren't able to find the X sockets. With my X server (XF86), those are in /tmp/.X11-unix/. Maybe mount --bind /tmp /AccelX/tmp before launching the X server? -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Again with the nvidia...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:50:08 +0200, Bradley Alexander wrote: > It's in there: > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoRenderAccel" "on" I'm getting this one: (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "RenderAccel" "0" As it seems, both should boil down to the same thing. I was under the impression that the driver also prints a more informative message somewhere in the log file, but I can't find it now. > But I also noticed this: [...] > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! > > So I commented out the DRI and the GLcore, which were suggestions I > found from a google search. Hopefully this will do it. The unresolved > symbols are from the dri module, because the nvidia driver doesn't > supply them, and GLcore is supplied by the nvidia driver itself. DRI is incompatible with the nVidia binary driver. The README file somewhere states that DRI and GLcore should be commented out. I don't know if that's the root of your problems though. (Probably not, as DRI wasn't loaded.) > Thoughts? Alas, none. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Again with the nvidia...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 05:40:09 +0200, Bradley Alexander wrote: > Option "NoRenderAccel" "on" > > to the device section of XF86Config-4. I did this and thought I had the > problem licked. But alas, I got bitten again. > > Any other wisdom on how to beat this other than tearing Gnome off of my > system? AFAICT, this XF86 crashes _are_ related to nVidia's RENDER acceleration (which is tagged experimental, so it's not a surprise that there are bugs in it). Especially GTK2 apps with AA seem to trigger the bug. Are you really sure that the driver recognized the option? There should be a comment about it in the XF86 log file. Another idea might be to turn off anti-aliasing. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latest gcc
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:10:14 +0200, Mihalis I. Tsoukalos wrote: > Dear list, > I have the following questions: > > Does the latest gcc/g++ (I think 3.3) exists for Debian woody? If yes, > where can I find the deb files? You might try http://www.apt-get.org/. There are no official Debian packages IMHO. > Is the C++ support better in the latest gcc/g++? GCC 3.2+ are actually supposed to be quite good. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 06:00:11 +0200, MJM wrote: > On Monday 04 August 2003 21:40, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: >> > // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int >> >*) p_a; >> >> Ouch. > > Try this in /usr/src/linux/kernel > > $ grep *\) *.c This is unfair. First, it's kernel-land code, and second I am not aware of any C++ code in The Kernel. Call me a fundamentalist, but I think such dirty tricks have no gain in modern C++. (There is no alternative in C.) >> > // p_a and p_b point to the same block of dyn. allocated memory; >> >> Do they? > > They do. My app would be broken from the start if I could not rely on > this capability. This style of type conversion is covered in elementary > C++ books by Bjarne. It's not unusual. Exactly where? I don't remember such casts from Bjarne's book. Maybe with a big warning sign next to the code? > You must be aware of what you are doing when you do a type conversion. > Portability is a concern. I am limiting my app to Intel 32 bit Linux. > Screw everything else. Well, if you must... >> Watch out for inheritance, user-defined casting operators and other >> funny stuff. C++ adds a few new meanings to the () casting syntax. In >> general, your assumption is _wrong_. > > I have no user defined casting operators or funny stuff. I'm no fan of > overloading. What about inheritance? Not a fan either? >> One should also note that the C-style casting operator is considered >> bad style in C++. The "politically correct" way to rewrite your example >> is >> >> int *p_b = reinterpret_cast(p_a); > > By whom? Your example is nowhere to be found in my C++ books by Bjarne. > So you are saying that Bjarne promotes bad style in his books? Why not > tell him: http://www.research.att.com/~bs/homepage.html My "Bjarne" somewhere recommends using the new-style cast operators. I can't provide an actual quote though, since I have the German translation. Maybe you have an older edition of the book; the third or fourth should cover it. BTW, there should be an article about the new casts in the C++ FAQ (I just don't find it at the moment). I'm not going to replicate that stuff here, since it is probably explained in more detail and better English than I can provide. Maybe this can serve as a short intro: http://www.hlrs.de/organization/tsc/services/tools/docu/kcc/UserGuide/chapter_9.html Look in section 9.3, "New-Style Casts". > Besides, reinterpret_cast is probably a template function doing this: > > return ((T) x); // type conversion using cast Erm... no. It is actually an operator built into the language. And it is different from the C-style cast. > That way, you're clearly stating the intent of the cast. It is up to > your >> compiler what it makes of this statement; the C++ standard doesn't >> cover such abuse. > > Language experts sure get their shorts knotted up over simple questions. I'm not a language expert, and I'm not a killer programmer either :-) > I've known some killer programmers and none of them have quoted a > language specification in conversation. We're talking about a corner case here. > That was way over the top. That stuff is for compiler writers, not > application programmers. I did not start a knowledge contest. If I did > inadvertently, then you win. I don't look at it like a contest. There were two contradicting answers, and I wanted to provide proof for mine. Sorry if the language spec was over the top, but what else should I have quoted? I don't think I'll find any C++ expert who debates our specific example of "delete". > I just wanted to discuss a problem with others of similar interest and > try to learn something. I really don't care if my code style is bad, > abusive, or politically incorrect. Well, you now have my opinion on the issue. I won't go after you if you prefer to think differently. Please don't feel offended. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML mail
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:50:14 +0200, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Most of the spam I receive is HTML format. Is there a fairly painless way of > sending anything formatted HTML to my trash folder? You could try filtering for phrases like Content-type: text/html or I don't know kmail, but every mail client should be able to do that. OTOH why would you want to reinvent the wheel? Good spam filtering tools exist. Personally I swear by SpamAssassin. It might be a bit more difficult to set up at first, but it recognizes 99% of my spam. I also use it to sort e-mail worms out, by spending extra points on mails which have a Microsoft format binary program attached. It's a real joy to filter with SA :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Difference in quality latex printer output
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:20:07 +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: > Although you can cleary see that the same formatting options are used, > the look of the printout is much better when done on the unstable > system. It's easier to look at, less "crowded". The stable system > produces output that looks like everything is bold. Truely bold lines > are even bolder/blacker still. > > What might be the reason for this difference? Is it possibly the newer > version of latex or something closer to the printer? Sounds like the difference between the traditional Computer Modern fonts (very black, look almost bold) and CM-Super (much dimmer) or something like that. Consult a LaTeX guru to be sure :-) > Printing is more or less a mystery to me. I'm glad it works, but I'd > like to "upgrade" the look of my stable system print output, without > dist-upgrading. Where do I start? It's not a printer issue, you're just using different fonts. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Gnome-settings-Daemon (Sarge + Woody control-center)
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:00:22 +0200, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote: > It seems that I miss a file named > /home/gnalle/.gnome2/debian-upgrade-stage-1 > > When I start gnome, I don't get far enough to create a .gnome-errors, > but here is my .xsession-errors. [...] > SESSION_MANAGER=local/nissefisken:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1374 Couldn't access > Debian Stage 1 upgrade file > "/home/gnalle/.gnome2/debian-upgrade-stage-1": No such file or directory It _could_ be that Debian's GNOME1-to-GNOME2 conversion script has a bug and hangs. > Does this make sense to great gurus? I leave that question to the great gurus... :-) > Should I just create the file? Might be worth a shot. You could also try to move your .gnome directory out of the way (Don't delete it! Some programs like GnomeCard store their data in .gnome.) and try to log in without it. You'll lose your desktop configuration that way. Please note that this is guesswork. I don't know how broken the GNOME in Sarge really is - maybe you won't get it to work at all. Your best course of action is probably to pull in the GNOME2 stuff from Sid. It works very well at the moment. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Gnome-settings-Daemon (Sarge + Woody control-center)
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:50:06 +0200, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote: > I upgraded from Woody to Sarge last week, and now I cannot start my > gnome. Xfree and KDE works. Well actually I had some problems with the > xserver of sarge, so now I am running xfree from woody. Bug report > here > http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2003/debian-x-200308/msg00177.html Probably some option the X server doesn't like. Although I don't know which one :-) > I realize that this is not a proper bug report, but I am a little > confused about which log files I should look in. I have checked > /var/log/syslog, /var/log/XFRee86 and /var/gdm, but I seem to miss > some information. You X server works, so these logfiles aren't likely to contain useful information. > Is is correct for me to use the gnome-settings-daemon from Woody? AFAICT, no. > Which information should I provide to describe my problem better? ~/.xsession-errors ~/.gnome-errors > Is there a chance that this problem will dissapear by itself as new > gnome2 packages enter testing? Might well be. The testing GNOME is broken at the moment. I don't know to what degree it is broken, as I don't run testing anywhere. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to set keys functions in application
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:30:09 +0200, Jianan Huang wrote: > Hi folks, > > In an application, say, xterm, certain key will function in a certain > way e.g. the up arrow key will go back to the previous command. How to > set or modify key functions of an application? The shell history is actually a feature of your shell :-) If you're using the bash shell (default), type "help bind" or "info bash" for more docs. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:00:11 +0200, MJM wrote: > I learned last night that there is a 3rd Ed. Evidently things have > changed and the complex language has gotten more complex - Right. > trying to be all things to all people. If this continues, C++ will be > too complex for normal programmers. C++ is a complex beast, and it has always been. However, much of that complexity was introduced to remain compatible with C. You should like that? > C++ should be backwards compatible, so I think my 2nd Ed. suits my > needs. C++ was finalized in 1998. There was nothing to be compatible to before that date. Not even C++ 2nd. Ed. from 1991 (?), even if that book was written by a thousand Stroustrups. Yes, I know what you will answer - standards are for language experts, not for the programmers. REAL programmers don't care. They continue to apply their C patterns which served them well for years. They are the _real_ gurus as opposed to that C++ dimwits. Stop being childish. Even C has changed in the past, and will continue to do so. > I use C++ features for templates, encapsulation, STL, inheritance (not > much), and "objectification". I do low level stuff, so I want to use > the C capabilites. If the C capabilities are removed from future > versions of C++, then I will recode for C. You obviously don't understand the point of the new cast operators. They don't take power away from you, in fact they give you more power than before. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:00:12 +0200, MJM wrote:
> Will the free store be properly maintained when the following is
> executed? // a simple object is defined typedef struct {
>uint32_t a;
>uint64_t b;
>uint8_tc;
> } t_my_type;
No typedef needed. This is C++.
struct t_my_type
{
// blah
};
> // allocate some memory for an instance of this object t_my_type * p_a =
> (t_my_type) new t_my_type;
Similarly, the cast is superfluous, ugly, and in this case even wrong :-)
(you're missing a star).
t_my_type *p_a = new t_my_type; // what could be prettier?
> // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int *)
> p_a;
Ouch.
> // p_a and p_b point to the same block of dyn. allocated memory;
Do they? Watch out for inheritance, user-defined casting operators and
other funny stuff. C++ adds a few new meanings to the () casting syntax.
In general, your assumption is _wrong_.
One should also note that the C-style casting operator is considered bad
style in C++. The "politically correct" way to rewrite your example is
int *p_b = reinterpret_cast(p_a);
That way, you're clearly stating the intent of the cast. It is up to your
compiler what it makes of this statement; the C++ standard doesn't cover
such abuse.
> // return the memory to free storage using the second pointer delete
> p_b;
>
> I think the free store will be maintained properly because there is a
> control block attached to the allocated block of storage that defines
> the length of the allocated memory.
No. You have to delete the original pointer (with the original type).
Everything else is undefined behaviour, i.e. it could work, it could leak
memory (completely or partly), it could crash, or even print "42". It
might even work sometimes, and fail mysteriously at other times.
(Please note that the rules are a bit different if the affected classes
are related in a inheritance hierarchy. This is not the case in your
example.)
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Re: USB mouse phantom devices
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:00:22 +0200, Jonathan Brandmeyer wrote: [configuring USB HID mouse] > I'm using the stock 2.4.21 kernel on Sid with separately compiled > openafs and nvidia modules. The required USB drivers are installed in > the running kernel (hid, usbcore, usb-uhci, input). Doesn't one need usbmouse also? I'm not sure. > However, X cannot open /dev/input/mice with the error "no such device". > I tried `cat /dev/input/mice` and received the same error... but `ls > /dev/input` shows that it is there! "no such device" doesn't mean the device node is missing; it means Linux doesn't know what device it should connect with that node. Please post the output of ls -l /dev/input/mice. Maybe the device file has been damaged. It should display the numbers 13, 63 (major/minor number) in the size column. Try loading usbmouse first, though :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding the cause of a lock-up
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:50:13 +0200, techlists wrote: > What can I do to find out what is causing these programs to freeze like > they are? Probably you're running a sound daemon such as ESD, ARTS or JACK (no pun intended). Those programs block the sound device and prevent other apps from using it. Some of the daemons have a automatic disconnect feature, which will make them release the sound device after a certain time of inactivity. Your desktop environment probably starts one of these daemons automatically; you need to find the option to turn it off :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon Bookmarks toolbar gone
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:00:47 +0200, Jeremy Brooks wrote: > I've looked through the preferences, and played around with the options > related to the toolbars. Nothing seems to help. You could try to open the bookmark editor, select the toolbar folder, and tag it as the toolbar folder. (There is such an option in the context menu.) Maybe that info got lost somehow. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > (Galeon version 1.2.5 on Debian testing) I have 1.3.5 currently, so things may work differently. The 1.3.x series is supposed to be a complete rewrite after all... -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML mail
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:00:42 +0200, David Fokkema wrote: >> Yeah, sure. But SA doesn't protect me from your >> >> > -- >> > Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into >> > Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! >> >> signature virus. I had a difficult time not to infect my ~/.signature, >> ;-) This one's very dangerous! Yeah, but one must realize that SA isn't a general-purpose virus scanner. Maybe someone could provide a patch to detect signature virii. :-) > Damn! There you have it, :-( > > David > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me > spread! lol -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:00:13 +0200, Pigeon wrote:
>> No. You have to delete the original pointer (with the original type).
>> Everything else is undefined behaviour, i.e. it could work, it could
>> leak memory (completely or partly), it could crash, or even print "42".
>> It might even work sometimes, and fail mysteriously at other times.
>
> Interesting. I figured that the actual allocation/deallocation would end
> up being handled by a call to malloc() / free(), and free() only cares
> about having the correct value for the (void *) pointer.
That's how most implementations of C++ work. However, you can't count on
it. I figure that the stronger requirements which C++ puts on the caller
of "delete" might allow for more efficient implementation of the C++
freestore that C's heap did (as a side effect, the size of the memory
chunk is known without any magic fields). Don't know for sure. And
finally, don't forget that each C++ class can have an associated
destructor. For the destructor call, C++ needs to know what kind of object
we are destroying.
The relevant quote from Our Holy Standard of C++, section 5.3.5(2), reads:
> {...} In the first alternative (delete object), the value of the operand
> of delete shall be a pointer to a non-array object or a pointer to a
> sub-object (1.8) representing a base class of such an object (clause
> 10). If not, the behavior is undefined. In the second alternative
> (delete array), the value of the operand of delete shall be the pointer
> value which resulted from a previous array new-expression.72) If not,
> the behavior is undefined. [Note: this means that the syntax of the
> delete-expression must match the type of the object allocated by new,
> not the syntax of the new-expression. ] [Note: a pointer to a const type
> can be the operand of a delete-expression; it is not necessary to cast
> away the constness (5.2.11) of the pointer expression before it is used
> as the operand of the delete-expression. ]
The two "alternatives" here refer to the single-object delete syntax and
the delete[] syntax for arrays. Please note that the text in square
brackets was not inserted by me; it's straight from the original.
The next paragraph (3) discusses derived objects:
> In the first alternative (delete object), if the static type of the
> operand is different from its dynamic type, the static type shall be a
> base class of the operand's dynamic type and the static type shall have
> a virtual destructor or the behavior is undefined. In the second
> alternative (delete array) if the dynamic type of the object to be
> deleted differs from its static type, the behavior is undefined.73)
The terms "static type" and "dynamic type" don't apply cleanly here (as
structs and ints aren't related in any way). So I think (2) is more
relevant (I'm not a language lawyer).
Footnote 73 is interesting as well:
> 73) This implies that an object cannot be deleted using a pointer of
> type void* because there are no objects of type void.
While footnotes (and the notes above, too) are not part of the normative
text, they clearly state the intention of the authors.
> Would it not be the case, though, in the barebones example given, that
> MJM's '_wrong_ assumption' would be correct, and 'it' would work, even
> if in a more general case it might not?
No, it's not correct from the formal point of view. Plus, it's not clean
code. Nevertheless it _may_ work as expected, depending on the
implementation of your compiler and the nature of your code.
> Or would it have been better for C++ to have been named D to stop people
> wanting to think like this?
The malloc/free subsystem is still there, and it works the same way as it
did in C. (Not surprisingly, freeing new'ed objects and deleting malloc'ed
objects is not formally allowed either.)
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Re: CD access probs
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:40:06 +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sunday 10 August 2003 3:13 pm, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: [...prob > mounting CD...] >> /dev/cdrom is a symlink to what? > > ouch. That was simple enough, then. Point it at the right place... OK, > that works. Problem 1 SOLVED. Good. >> > And, if that is not enough, the CDRW says >> >Could not mount device. >> >The reported error was: >> >mount: only root can mount /dev/scd0 on /cdrw > [...] >> >> You haven't shown us the fstab line for /cdrw. Most probably, the >> "user" option is missing. > > /dev/scd0 /cdrw iso9660 noauto,user 0 0 > > A different problem, then. Yes, the "ro" gets added automatically (with a warning message though). > Oh dear, found it. Missed a module at configure time when installing > the Knoppix: > $ /sbin/insmod ide-scsi > insmod: ide-scsi: no module by that name found > > That means I have to do some sort of 'dpkg-reconfigure kernel-modules' > or something like that, doesn't it. (I am learning...) It depends. Where did you get your kernel from? If you compiled it yourself, then it's time for a new compilation cycle. Include SCSI support, the SCSI CD-ROM driver, the SCSI generic device and IDE-SCSI emulation. If it's a precompiled Debian kernel, you might be lucky. IMHO all Debian kernels have ide-scsi either as a module _OR_ compiled in. Now the problem is the compiled-in idecd driver. It grabs all drives which it can get its hands on - even though idecd is uncapable of supporting CD recorders for writing. You can prevent that by passing for example hdd=ide-scsi to the kernel, if your burner is the secondary slave IDE device. Search "man lilo.conf" on instructions how to pass options to the kernel; especially the paragraph on "append". Don't forget you run "lilo" after editing the lilo.conf, and finally, this is one of the few incidents where you actually have to reboot Linux. If you're not using lilo, then you'll have to refer to the docs of your boot manager of course. BTW: It's also possible to operate CD-ROM drives (non-burners) with ide-scsi. You can get rid of idecd entirely if you want to. Works great for me :-) -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD access prob
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:00:12 +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: > My CD says >Could not mount device. >The reported error was: >mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device /dev/cdrom is a symlink to what? (Hint: ls -l /dev/cdrom to find out. It might also be interesting to know what drive your CD-ROM is. dmesg | grep CD should be helpful.) > fstab entry looks reasonable to me: > > /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noexec,noauto 0 0 Looks right, the problem is probaly /dev/cdrom's target. BTW, /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto is totally sufficient. > And, if that is not enough, the CDRW says >Could not mount device. >The reported error was: >mount: only root can mount /dev/scd0 on /cdrw > > I've given permissions on /cdrw. The permissions of the mount point are actually irrelevant. I even chmod all my mount points to 000 so that I can't accidentially use an unmounted mount point. (After something has been mounted on a mp, it's permissions automagically change to something else, which depends on the mount options.) > What have I forgotten here? You haven't shown us the fstab line for /cdrw. Most probably, the "user" option is missing. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: c++ reference documentations
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:30:15 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > Haim Ashkenazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [looking for C++ Standard Library docs] > http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/ Copyright says it's from 1994. That says about all. It only covers STL (no strings!), nothing else. And even that info is outdated. > http://www.ncits.org/cplusplus.htm Might be a bit dry... I'm using Dinkumware's reference mostly. That is, I'm abusing the free preview version: http://www.dinkumware.com/refxcpp.html Also, there's the Debian package "stl-manual", which seems to be a more recent edition of SGI's docs. I don't have any first-hand experience with it, but it looks good. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: packages removed by Release Manager just reveal older versions
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:10:06 +0200, Joey Hess wrote: > (This question is appropriate for the debian-user mailing list, > redirecting.) Maybe, maybe not. >> I guess I'm hoping for a warning that a package is 'out of fashion' >> when I try to apt-get install it. > > The problem is that you are using a demonstration frontend for the apt > library, instead of a real package manager. > > aptitude or even dselect will display packages that are not in the > archive as "obsolete" or "local", making it easy to tell when you have > something outdated. No, the problem is that Dan has outdated CD-ROM sources in his APT configuration (sources.list). AFAICT, aptitude lists any installed package that it cannot find a download source for in the "obsolete/local" section. If a package is in a local repository or on CD-ROM, aptitude won't notice that the package is no longer supported by Debian. That's the same trap apt-cache fell in. Dan seems to want a technical solution, i.e. a change in the APT software. I don't think this would be justified. Keeping the /etc/apt/sources.list in a reasonable state is something that Debian can't help the admin with. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mac addresses
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:10:06 +0200, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> I was going to run
>
> nmap -sP x.x.x.*
> arp -a | grep ether |awk '{print $4}'
>
> This give me a nice list.
>
> but as for scanning this list for entries not included in another list I am
> a bit stuck...
>
> ...arpwatch reads like it will do this very well.
If arpwatch doesn't suit you: man diff. :-)
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Re: bash: finding if mozilla is running
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:50:05 +0200, Seneca wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 10:22:53AM +0100, David selby wrote: >> Writting a small script to make mozilla show the results of HTML code >> written in vi, when vi saves, the script automaticly changes mozilla >> to show that HTML. >> >> I need to know if mozilla is running, if not I need to call it first >> ... seemed simple >> >> if ! ps ax | grep "mozilla-bin" &>/dev/null; then >>/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla -P web & >>. > [...] >> Ie its picking up on the grep process, finding "mozilla-bin", saying >> yep its running, dont call mozilla & bang, script fails. > > ps --no-headers -C "mozilla-bin" | grep -q -- "-bin" Why grep? ps returns != 0 if no mozilla-bin process can be found and == 0 if one is found. ps -C mozilla-bin >/dev/null should cover it. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash: finding if mozilla is running
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:30:06 +0200, David selby wrote: > I need to know if mozilla is running, if not I need to call it first ... > seemed simple Yeah. That's why I use Galeon. I never understood Mozilla's remote control. :-) Of course, Galeon has other advantages, too... > Whatever I grep for, grep will find in ps ax as grep xx, a bit > frustrating !! use "ps -C mozilla-bin", no grep -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation of package installer
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:10:07 +0200, Sam Virgillo wrote: > I have an embedded version of Debian running on an Intel 486 single > board computer. I cannot find the Apt-get program or the dpkg program > to install packages. If I download these apps from your site they are > in the .deb package format and I have no way to install them (catch 22). > Can I get just a .tar or .gz file of these or other apps? You can unpack any .deb file with the "ar" utility. In it, you'll find a tar.gz archive with the actual files. Alternatively, there should be a tar.gz with a basic Debian installation somewhere on the FTP. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: corrupted dpkg?
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:30:07 +0200, Kent West wrote: >> Use of uninitialized value in exists at >> /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 29, <> line 4. [...] > > I'm no expert, but what I'd try is to find the mozilla-xft.deb and > liblocal-gettextdeb files, perhaps in /var/cache/apt/archives, and > try installing them manually with "dpkg -i liblocdeb". And while we're at it, Perl looks a bit confused, too. -- Best Regards, | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into Sebastian | your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
