Re: Potato and Kernel 2.4.0

2001-01-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
Stefan Nobis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I installed Kernel 2.4 on Debian Potato (2.2.r2). Some packages from unstable
 are needed to do so and i compiled all from source for a Debian 2.2r2
 system. Here are the recompiled packages (apt-get-able):
 
 deb http://www.snobis.de/debian extras/kernel24/

One addition: This archive works *only* with apt-get. You can't access it
direct via http! Here is a list of available packages:

bsdutils_2.10q-1_i386.deb
chrony_1.14-1_i386.deb
comerr-dev_2.0-1.19-3_i386.deb
devfsd_1.3.10-5_i386.deb
e2fslibs-dev_1.19-3_i386.deb
e2fsprogs_1.19-3_i386.deb
ipppd_3.1pre1b-4.deb
iptables_1.2-2_i386.deb
isdnlog-data_1%3a3.1pre1b-4_all.deb
isdnlog_1%3a3.1pre1b-4_i386.deb
isdnutils-doc_1%3a3.1pre1b-4_all.deb
isdnutils-xtools_1%3a3.1pre1b-4_i386.deb
isdnutils_3.1pre1b-4.deb
isdnvboxclient_1%3a3.1pre1b-4_i386.deb
isdnvboxserver_1%3a3.1pre1b-4_i386.deb
modutils_2.4.1-1_i386.deb
mount_2.10q-1_i386.deb
nfs-common_0.2.1-4.1_i386.deb
nfs-kernel-server_0.2.1-4.1_i386.deb
nhfsstone_0.2.1-4.1_i386.deb
portmap_5-1_i386.deb
ppp_2.4.0f-1_i386.deb
ss-dev_2.0-1.19-3_i386.deb
util-linux_2.10q-1_i386.deb
uuid-dev_1.2-1.19-3_i386.deb


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Potato and Kernel 2.4.0

2001-01-13 Thread Stefan Nobis
Hi.

I installed Kernel 2.4 on Debian Potato (2.2.r2). Some packages from unstable
are needed to do so and i compiled all from source for a Debian 2.2r2
system. Here are the recompiled packages (apt-get-able):

deb http://www.snobis.de/debian extras/kernel24/

Have fun with it.

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-09 Thread Stefan Nobis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can you give us a rundown on how to get this to work?  I followed the
 instructions in the README but the permissions and owner/group bits never
 stayed the way I wanted them.  (eg: root.audio for all of /dev/sound,

If you use devfsd from unstable then there is a file
/etc/devfs/devfsd.conf. There you have to uncomment the following section (or,
if you create a new devfsd.conf file, just add the following commands):

-
# Sample /etc/devfsd.conf configuration file.
#
# Uncomment this if you want permissions to be saved and restored
#REGISTER   .*  COPY/dev-state/$devname $devpath
#CHANGE .*  COPY$devpath /dev-state/$devname
#CREATE .*  COPY$devpath /dev-state/$devname
-

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 instead of /dev/hda1 or /dev/wd0a whenever i need to do anything
 related to raw devices is a performance improvment.  nor is writing
 huge kludgy initscripts or bloated daemons just so i can do:

I can't see why a daemon about 30k in size is bloated.

See it this way: The old way to manage devices is with major/minor node
numbers. There are not much free numbers these days and if we put the system
to 32 Bit numbers or the like, the kernel will be very much more bloated than
that small daemon in user-mode could ever be bloated.

One other IMO very good argument is, that with the old system the list of
numbers is used at two different locations, one in the kernel and one in /dev
or MAKEDEV scripts. With devfs there is now only one list in the kernel. (Not
to mention that numbers are given in a very chaotic way to devices.)

Last but not least without /dev being an ordinary directory one is much more
flexible with the root-dir. It's much more simple now to make / read-only
without the need vor a ramdisk and the like.

And at least i'm very pleased that now i can have a look in /dev and see
what's really there.

By the way i love dynamically managed resources and i don't like the idea that
resources are managed statically -- only think about USB.

 chgrp wheel /dev/somedevice
 chmod 660 /dev/somedevice 
 
 and have it stick.  (past reboots)

With devfsd this is also very simple possible.

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Andreas == Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Andreas 2.) boot. fsck will fail. do manual fsck, remount / rw,
 Andreas edit /etc/fstab: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
 Andreas /boot ext2 defaults 0 2
 Andreas /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 none swap sw 0 0
 Andreas /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 / ext2 defaults 0
 Andreas 1 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 /local ext2
 Andreas defaults 0 2 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/tagret1/lun0/cd /cdrom
 Andreas iso9660 ro,user,noauto
 
 This seems to be overly complex, even for devfs. Or is the
 documentation found in
 linux-2.4.0-test10/Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README out-of-date
 or wrong?

No, but Andreas stated clearly that he don't want to use devfsd. And the above
are the internal names of devfs and the device drivers. The other names like
/dev/discs/disc0 and the like are the user friendly naming scheme which is
brought to you with devfsd. So if you don't use devfsd you don't get the new,
shorter names but only the very long internal names (which are deprecated to
use).

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 very funny, im sure you would like it if someone FORCED you to use
 *only* KDE or *only* gnome.  the Free software movement is about
 freedom and choices and *options*  i should have the *option* to turn
 that `feature' off.  

 don't force your preferences on others.  you like devfs use it, don't
 force me to do the same.  

 as soon as there is no longer any choices or options in GNU/Linux is
 it no better for me then Windows.  

Hey, than Linux is no better then Windows. Did you know that they changed the
way the caching and the VM works? And the worst: They let you no choice to use
the old system! How could they do without asking you! These bad guys!

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Re: useradd problem(!)

2001-01-06 Thread Stefan Nobis
Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /etc/adduser.conf
 
 When running useradd, though, I get the following:

adduser and useradd are two quite different programs. Try using adduser and
you will get what you want.

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Re: t-dsl

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, first of all, you want to assign the user an address via DHCP,
 or else it's an administrative nightmare.

You can use Radius, LDAP-based solutions and surley much more. With
PPPoE there are even more possibilities to hack IP-addresses then
without PPP. I still don't see your point. And last but not least: Why
not using static IPs instead of dynamic IPs? Use static IPs and
everything is very simple to set up and very simple to secure. That's
why i say the dynamic IP combined with PPPoE is very braindead.

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Re: t-dsl

2000-08-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Linux Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   This may sound like a silly question, but what is the
 use/purpose of PPP over Ethernet? Why is it better than setting up a
 connection with ifconfig eth0?

It's not better, it's very silly. But there are reasons. The one used
here in germany: Most consumers are used to pay per minute so the
Deutsche Telekom don't want DSL to be paid per Byte. But to count the
time online you need some extra tool and so PPP is used.

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Re: t-dsl

2000-08-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Smart people *can* get IPs that haven't been assigned to them, and
 it's a PITA to root them out.  PPPoE, while a hack, addresses this
 concern for providers.  I wish we used it.

Tell me more about this. What about configuring the routers only to
route IPs that are assigned on each connection? In the worst case you
set for each connection a static IP. How can anyone use IPs they
haven't been assigned to in this case?

Do you want to tell me that for leased lines there is no way to stop
bad people to use IPs that haven't been assigned to them? Where is the
big difference between leased lines and DSL?

I'm a beginner in the networking section but even i know some ways to
secure the ISP-side. I can't imagine that all those big ISP like
Worldcom/UUnet have no idea how to secure their IPs.

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Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

2000-07-31 Thread Stefan Nobis
John L. Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it doesn't matter if you have it compiled/installed.  modprobe will 
 automagically load it into memory when you need it.  Not sure why
 the installation said you could damage(?)/mess up the installation
 if you installed a module for a hardware device you don't have.

In very few and bad cases this is possible. Imagine you install a SCSI
driver and somehow it thinks there really is a SCSI device and you go
on and you try to install on that not really existing SCSI
device. BOOM.

In most cases there are no problems.

 I don't know, still getting used to it. What I really liked from 
 RedHat is that they moved all the startup files into a subdirectory
 of /etc/rc.d.  Debian (at least 2.1) is using the Solaris style,
 i.e. /etc/rc?.d

What's the problem? All scripts goes in /etc/init.d and in /etc/rc?.d
are Symlinks. This way it's also done by RedHat, but they do it in
/etc/rc.d/init.d and /etc/rc.d/rc?.d (IIRC).

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Re: Postgresql 7.02 and Debian

2000-07-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Bill Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Missing files in the compile.
 The log follows.  Snipped out all the good makes.  This was a second run.

If you got postgresql with apt-get source... then there are 3 files:

*.orig.tar.gz
*.diff.gz
*.dsc

The last one, postgresql_7.0.2-2.dsc, contains some description in
ASCII-text. Try a cat postgresql_7.0.2-2.dsc and you will see some
text which contains a line like

Build-Depends: libncurses5-dev...

This line shows you what you'll need to compile this package. Just
make a apt-get install with all packages listet in the above line and
then everything will compile fine.

BTW: In the Build-Depends tcl8.0-dev and tk8.0-dev are listed -- the
newer versions 8.2 will also do.

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Re: Postgresql 7.02 and Debian

2000-06-29 Thread Stefan Nobis
Bill Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 2% [2 potato/main 4344/821kB 0%] [1 unstable/main 27145/380kB 7%]
 Err ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/main Packages
   Data socket timed out

apt could not get the new list from the server so you can't do
anything with apt for this server. First get a *complete* list
(apt-get update with no errors) and then everything else works fine.

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Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO

1999-09-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon
 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SM dialogs are ok, this is not the issue. The real issue is not to
SM fall into the Microsoft or RedHat paradigm. This is a flavour of

Hmmm... don't think so.

SM Unix, Unix is not trivial, Unix is a fairly mature fully featured
SM operating system and you have to know at least a little about what
SM you are doing and be prepared to read the manual before you do
SM something useful.

OK, if i want to design a big network, i have to know many things
about networks. But that has nothing to do with this or that os. It
should be plain and simple to setup an os.

An os is a tool - it should help me in getting my job done. Some tasks 
are complex, ok, then you have to learn something. But the UI of the
os and the tools to fullfill the task should be as simple to use as
possible (and still be flexible).

SM IMHO one of the reasons that there is a contest between NT and
SM Linux is that Microsoft said that NT was so simple to install and
SM use, unfortunately tuning and other administrative tasks can be a

The main problem with NT is not problems in tuning it or some other
nice to have features. The main problem is, that NT is not scalable
and most important it is not reliable and stable. If NT would be as
stable as Solaris or even Linux, than NT would be a killer system,
because MS knows that even experts like it, if complex tasks are
simple to solve.

I work with NT once in a while and at home i work with Linux. Linux is 
very flexible and i like this. But there are many tasks which are much 
simpler to do in NT. For example the registry of NT is no problem -
but missing tools to edit the registry even from a boot disk is a
problem.

SM real pain. Linux never made any bones about the fact that you have
SM to learn to be able to use it. It's not out of the box and run. I

Here everything goes wrong! As i said above: If i plan to make a (big) 
network i have to learn about network-basics and network-theory. It's
a problem when MS claims with NT you have not do know anything about
network-basics. But it is very good, if you can do your tasks with
easy to use tools.

Let's take some network-settings as example. If you want to use DHCP
with NT or Win, it's quite easy - go to network settings an say to get 
IP address automatically. If you want to use DHCP with Linux you habe
much more to do. Why? Is there anything good if activating DHCP is not 
as simple as for NT?

One pain with NT is, that often there is only one way to do this or
that and this way gives you not all possible options that should be
available. Here Linux is better. But a tool have not to be a pain to
use in order to be flexible.

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Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO

1999-09-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Wright
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JW Also, I spend a lot of time in my job working on servers on the
JW other side of the world, hidden behind slow, overloaded WAN links.
JW Sure I *can* (and sometimes do) use ssh to run GUI apps on these

I know, what you mean.

But if a program is good designed, then it's easy to give it a
textmode and a graphic mode UI and last but not least even a command
line interface.

Even a command line driven interface can be easy to use and a nice and 
pretty GUI can be hard to use.

JW Or if your box is hosed and X won't come up and you can't get it
JW out of single user because, say, /usr is trashed so you HAVE to
JW fix it from the command line.  If you've learned on a GUI and
JW never learned the formats of the underlying config files, you're
JW hosed and quite possibly out of a job.

Where is the problem? A GUI is nothing bad - it's very good! If i'm
good in my job, i'm happy if i can easy do my job with a nice and easy 
to use GUI. And if there are problems i'm able to edit config files by 
hand with a text editor.

If you use a GUI you don't become dump!

JW Granted, none of these things are common for the casual user, but
JW such situations are very common for me.  I find that command line

It's very good, if this is possible to do. And here Unix is much
better than NT. But it's not very good if all you have are simple and
not very easy to use tools. Best is, if both are available.

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Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO

1999-09-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
I think most people miss some important points:

- A text or graphic mode UI is some times the most effective user
  interface, some times a command line driven interface is more
  effective.

- Even the best of the experts is very happy if a good tool is easy to 
  use, so it costs less time to do a job.

- Ease of use is not only for lusers or beginners! I'm a system
  administrator and programmer and i like programs which are easy to
  use, cause i like to have my job done instead of learning how to use
  a tool.

- What advantage has a command line tool with 3000 options, extremly
  flexible, but no one is ever able to remember all these options? The 
  user interface and the ease of use is one of the most important
  parts of every program - only this way a tool can really help in
  doing a job more effective and less time consuming.

Take samba as an example? If all you do every day is working with
smb.conf then you know one day nealy all the options. But if not? If
you have to tweak smb.conf only once in a while? Then every time you
have to work through the manpages - but hey, there is swat. That
little small tool really helps you to just do your job.

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Re: latex: how to output the ยข (cent) symbol

1999-09-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Laing
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ML \documentclass[10pt,letterpaper]{letter}
ML \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}

Try using

\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

ML \usepackage{times}

You are using times, which is postscript, which uses T1 encoding. So
there should be no harm in activating T1 for the hole document.

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Re: Offtopic - Amiga and Linux join forces?

1999-07-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith G. Murphy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

KGM If the Amiga folks are not going to use any of the GNU tools, or
KGM dpkg/apt especially, that would be a perverse decision.  In fact,
KGM not making it based on/compatible with m68k Debian would be
KGM perverse, seems to me.

I think you still missunderstand the point. The Amiga folks is looking 
for a new kernel. The will take the Linux kernel, cause there are much 
device drivers, so they are only interested in hardware
support. Around this kernel they will make an AmigaOS. So nothing will 
look like a Linux, not the command line, not the GUI and there is a
good chance even the API will not look like the Linux API. It will be
the innermost section of the OS which is based on Linux. As i
understand the text, you can say, Linux is something like the Hardware 
Abstraction Layer of NT for the new AmigaOS. And on this Linux, which
is there to support more hardware, a complete AmigaOS is set on
top. And with this AmigaOS the user and even the programmer has to
deal, so neither of them will see anything of Linux.

And from this point of view, the hole thing has nothing to do with any 
Linux-Distribution.

And if they take gcc as their compiler or use the dpkg/apt package
tools for managing installed software is quite another question - it
matters as much as asking, why not using dpkg/apt tools for windows
for software installation/administration.

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Re: Basic networking

1999-07-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Brown
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I gather I need a HUB or a switch for anything more than two hosts?

Mark If you're using cat5.  If you're just using coax cable, you
Mark don't need a hub or switch and can just hang everything off the

Uh? What coax cable is working for a 100 MBit LAN? I thought for 100
MBit you always need CAT5.

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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-05 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hamish What is your point? I never claimed unsolicited attachments
Hamish were acceptable, only that solicited ones of any size should
Hamish work.

Then pay for it.

The problem is not the transport but at your ISP. Your ISP has to save 
the message and he has to pay for the bandwidth. Donate your ISP a big 
harddisk and i think he will loosen your disk-quota. Pay for the
bandwidth and i think you will be able to get even very big messages.

Hmmm... maybe there's still a problem with the ISP of the sender.

The main point is: Traffic is expencive. And traffic is dangerous.

If ISP allow even very big mails, than it will them cost much money
and even worse they are more vulnerable to attacs (for example denial
of service). Do you really want that?

And last but not least: There are other ways to transfer the big
data. And these ways are less dangerous cause they are designed for
big data like files.

But i think we are off-topic here now.

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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The problem of (huge) attachments or huge mails in general is, that
 the recipient often never asked to get it, but the sender sended it
 without being asked to do.

Hamish In the case of mailing lists, I agree. In the case of other mail,
Hamish this is not my experience at all.

I get from time to time mails from friends and even from people i
don't know with attachments some times greater than 1MB. And i'm
always very angry about it, cause i do pay for my telphone connection
(4 minutes costs me 12 german Pfennige, about 0,07US$). And none of
these persons asked me, if i'm interested in the picture, large text,
animation or the like. And never asked i someone of these to send me
that thing.

I talked to much other users and i often get excatly that complaint.

And this has nothing to do with mailinglists.

But if you are so happy about big emails, what about sending you the
X11 sources? Without asking you about sending it. Will you be happy
about that?

The question is: What is big and what is too big? Everybody i can
think of will get angry if i send him/her the X11 sources without
being asked to do so. So X11 sources are clearly too big. What about a 
50MB animation? What about a 5MB picture? What about a 100KB text?

Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without 
being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice 
and i would call it an offence.

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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-02 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hamish Wrong solution. Users should not have to adapt to technology
Hamish (within reason); the technology should allow users to send
Hamish huge email attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be
Hamish fixed.

One last point: If i drive a car, i have to stop at a red traffic
light. Is a car bad technology?

No piece of technology is able to get you rid of thinking.

And your personal freedom ends exactly at the point where the freedom
of others is cut down.

The problem of (huge) attachments or huge mails in general is, that
the recipient often never asked to get it, but the sender sended it
without being asked to do.

If i ask you to send me some big file than there is no technical
problem to do so. But if you find a great picture, about 2MB and you
think everyone has to see it and so you send it to one mailinglist or
another, than there are no technical problems -- than your are the
problem.

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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hamish reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email
Hamish attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed.

OK, but then the user should be prepared to pay for it!

And often people in the USA seems to forget that there are other
people in other countries that have to pay very much for the telephone 
connection like me here in germany. If someone sends me a big
attachment (i get it via UUCP, so i don't see how big it is before
it's on my system) i always feel a big wish to go to that person and
take the money for the download from him.

There are highspeed backbones where you can send videos in
realtime. Just go and ask for the price.

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Re: Why does 16 bpp look the same as 24 bpp?

1998-12-22 Thread Stefan Nobis
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can't tell the difference between 16bpp and 24bpp 24 colour JPEG
 files, viewed with xv.

OK, i'm no profi on this matter, but i'll try to explain:

First, your eyes can't differentiate between more than some thounds
colors (IIRC about 2.000 - 4.000 colors). Next you would probably ask, 
why then use as much colors as about 65.000 or 16 million.

Here we go: 
Every man and woman recognizes different colors (say Eskimos (what's
that in english? i mean the people in the snow in the north, Greenland 
and so) can recognize about 200 variants of white and the indians in
the rainforest can recognize about 200 variants of green), so we need
more than some thounds colors.

Next there are some technical problems. 16 bit mode uses a palette (i
don't know the english term) where red, green and blue uses 5 or 6
bits (i.e. 565 for rgb or 655 or the like). Every program may define
its own set of used colors and so you may end up with fewer colors
usable than about 65.000. Next are things like antialiasing - there
are colors between colors very useful which can't be recognized as
different colors so you can get a smoth plane with goes from i.e. red
to green without any lines recognziable.

I hope you can understand my english. It's not used very often. :)

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Re: dselect (or apt) wish list

1998-11-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Easy... as suggested, change the `apt-get clean  ...` line from
 /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/install to something thus - `true  ...`

OK - i know how to change it now, but nevertheless i think the default 
should be to ask the user when something is to be deleted.

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Re: dselect (or apt) wish list

1998-11-13 Thread Stefan Nobis
Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Cant say I have seen this one, but I imagine that dselect is wise to only
 delete _installed_ packages.. so there is no need to keep them anyway.
 (Unless you actually need them)

apt is very *bad* in this place - if you use apt as method in dselect, 
*all* downloaded and installed packages are deleted without any
further question.

I live in german and once i upgraded to slink (about 80 megs of
download) - this had cost me about 10 DM (i think about 6,5 US-$). All 
downloads with dselect till now are about 30-40 DM. I'm not very
pleased that in the case my harddisk will fail or something else
happens and i'm in need to reinstall, i have to download all this
again and so once again to invest the all the money.

USA people seem to forget that in other contries download may be very
expensive.

And in each case it always costs time to download the deleted files
once again - hey, time is money.

I don't understand why an install tool is so dumb to delete packages
after they are intalled. If something is to be deleted, *I* decide so, 
not any tool without questioning me.

That's the main cause why i still use method ftp instead of method
apt.

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Stefan.


Re: [Off Topic] An EXCELLENT Microsoft Confidential document on

1998-11-09 Thread Stefan Nobis
Dave McFadden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If MS is successful at 'embracing and extending' Java, then HTML, TCP/IP
 and the OSS world will soon feel the suffocating arms of MS wrapped around
 them.

Hey, don't forget some people even managed to decode SMB for NT in the 
SAMBA project. If MS really managed to decommoditize open standards -
don't you think there are enough developers which are able to copy
these new properitary protocols?

And when MS makes first tries in this direction and when they see, the 
OSS comunity will just fake what they are developing, i'm not sure if
MS will continue on this way.

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Re: replacment for quick books

1998-10-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
Carl Vilbrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a replacement for Quicken/Quickbooks ?

There are some clones for Quicken like gnucash or cbb, but i found
nothing like Quickbooks. But i tried to run Quickbooks with wine and
it works quite well... it's not as stable as i would wish, but i works 
good enough, so i don't have to reboot everytime i want to do
something in QB.

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Re: X server problems

1998-10-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Could Braden not simply try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to a non-X virtual console?
 I'm too new at Linux to know, but I'd at least try it.

No. If the X-Server isn't configured yet and you start xdm, xdm starts 
the X-Server. The Server exits at once and returns control to xdm
which then again tries to start the Server and so on. This happens so
fast that no keystroke will work (i tried this serveral time - no
way). If you have another computer at hand, connectd per TCP/IP you
will be able to kill xdm (after login per telnet).

The other solution is to boot in single mode (init mode 1), but that
method was described already.

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Re: Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.

1998-10-01 Thread Stefan Nobis
Christopher Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also, one other question. Is it possible to start two seperate X
 sessions, so that you could say have one X session running WindowMaker
 and the other one running E or something else, and switch between them
 via control-alt-fn or whatever?

If you use xdm, then take a look at /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers - just add a 
line like this:

:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt8

So you will get another xdm on virtual terminal 8 (switch to it with
Alt-Ctrl-F8).

If you use startx and i remember correctly, just say startx -- :1 vt8 and
you will get a new X-session on the virtual terminal 8 (or, without
the vt8, on the next free virtual terminal).

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Re: some WindowMaker questions ...

1998-09-30 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nuno Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Every time I start X (with windowmaker) it opens a xterm session ! ;(
  How can I disable it !?

Look in /etc/X11/Xsession and maybe /etc/X11/wdm/Xsession. At the end
of these files there is the line which starts xterm.

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