Re: downgrade from Woody to Potato - Yes, I too wish you would explain....
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:48:58AM -0500 wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: YES, writing up a quickie install method would be greatly appreciated. HOW about a quickie on installing from source, like CDROM #4 of the 6 CD Debian package. It is supposed to contain all the source for binary disc #1. Thanks, dave I don't know about reinstalling from sources, I have not done that. Before reformatting the harddisk I did a dpkg --get-selections and backed up /etc. This is what does the trick, since all configuration files are kept in /etc. I decided to clean up the system a little, so I did not push the seleciton list back in to dpkg (dpkg --set-selections), but if you want the system to be identical to the one you had before, running dpkg --set-selections and initialing the install process (e.g. by running dselect) should give you the same system as before. Replace the system's /etc directory with your backup and you should be all set. Cheers -- Stephan
Re: downgrade from Woody to Potato - Yes, I too wish you would explain....
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:10:38PM -0800 wrote Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does the get/set-selections procedure work with apt-get, or does apt do its own thing? I.e.: I had indeed configured dselect to use apt - I just ran dselect to make sure that some (for me) vital packages were selected. (Lesson 1: Don't ever trust yourself at 1 o' clock in the morning!) Have fun. -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. ***
Re: downgrade from Woody to Potato
Johann Spies writes: Replace your libc6 package with the potato version using dpkg -i with the --force-depends option. Unfortunately this did not work; I could not get around the dependencies on glibc 2.2. To shorten a long story, I have done a reinstall, and got the system up to working condition within three hours. There's probably the odd package still missing, but I am reinstalling everything by hand intentionally, because it gives me a chance to clean things up a little and get rid of unused packages. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. ***
downgrade from Woody to Potato
Hi everyone, this question has been asked before, but I could not get any working results. After installing Woody a couple of days ago, I'd like to downgrade to Potato again. Is there a way to do this without reinstalling the system? Reactivating the potato entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and deleting the woody ones did not help. apt tells me that my system is up to date ;-) Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. ***
Installing PHP 4.0.3pl1 and Apache 1.3.14
Hi everyone, currently I am trying to compile PHP 4.0.3pl1 as a DSO for Apache 1.3.14 on a pure Potato (2.2r2) system. So far without sucess. The software compiles just fine, but during the final linking process I get the following error message: /usr/bin/ld: .libs/libphp4.so: undefined versioned symbol name __ns_name_unpack@@GLIBC_2.1 /usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [libphp4.la] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/php/cvs/php4' The only configure-option I used was --with-apxs. I am using an Apache which has also been compiled from scratch, not the Debian-package. In the PHP-INSTALL list's archive someone mentioned, that the c library used in Potato may be too old. Could someone confirm or deny this? So far, I am shying away from an upgrade to the unstable distribution. Has anyone succeded in compiling Apache/PHP 4 on a Potato system? Thanks in advance -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. ***
Re: making devices
Hans writes: Hello, Could some kind soul please explain something I've never really figured out: how to make devices under /dev. Like today I tried to set up my scanner, but as there are no /dev/scanner (which is I think supposed to be a link) or /dev/sg* SANE can't detect anything. MAKEDEV says it doesn't know how to make the device scanner. I have a clean Potato box and the scanner worked under Slink, but then again it had /dev/scanner. Thanks for the enlightenment. Use the MAKEDEV script in the /dev direcotry to create the missing devices. Then /dev/scanner should be a link pointing to the device to which your scanner is attached: # cd /dev # MAKEDEV sg # ln -s /dev/sgsomethingorother /dev/scanner where somethingorother is the number of the generic SCSI (sg) device to which your scanner is attached. If you have no other SCSI devices I the system, I suspect that /dev/sg0 would be a good place to start looking :-) Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** I am the captain of this ship and I have my wife's permission to say so! **
RE: annoying C-s terminal freeze
Hi, Michalowski Thierry writes: I think you can bind the freezing of the terminal to other keycodes than Ctrl-s, but I did not try to, so I suggest you read the appropriate manuals for the appropriate terminal emulators...unless others have already working tips! stty is your friend.stty stop ^s is a default setting. Check stty's manpage for details. Ragards -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** I am the captain of this ship and I have my wife's permission to say so! **
Re: Which software to suck a whole website ?
Jaume Teixi writes: thanks, wget -r url Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** I am the captain of this ship and I have my wife's permission to say so! **
Re: email program for newbie
Hi, Marshall paul writes: _weeks_ to configure X. OK, I can surf, now, but I want email, too.) if everything fails, there's always /usr/bin/mail or /usr/bin/mailx. Console based Mailers include mutt and pine. Pine is quite straight forward to use, epecially if you are not accustomed to the vi editor. Mutt is IMHO more powerful and (for me) easier to use, but it uses vi as its default editor. You can of course configure it to use any editor (set editor=/usr/bin/some obscure editor you like). On the X-Front there is a grat variety. You may take a look at Netscape's Messenger. Alternatively you could look at tkrat, XFMail, or, or, or ... Fire up dselect and take a look at the mail section. Personally I use VM, a mailer which runs inside (X)Emacs. Emacs is the one editor I use for everything, so it's open all day long, and with VM I get a consisten handling. So for the console (or the xterm), my choice would be mutt. As a matter of fact, I use XEmacs for editing and mailing on console screen, too. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Die Frauen haben es ja von Zeit zu Zeit auch nicht leicht. Wir Männer aber müssen uns rasieren. -- Kurt Tucholsky ***
Re: make plus what?
Hi Tom, tom writes: pardon the really goofy question, but in order to compile, I need make,of course...but what else? I'm having a bit of difficulty compiling cscmail... Well, a compiler would be a favourite. Seriously, what does cscmail complain about? What do the documentation and installation instructions list under prerequisites or installation requirements? I don't know cscmail, but often one or more of flex, yacc, bison, or certain libraries are required. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Don't get even, get odd! ***
Re: top
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hiya's a simple question... why is it that when i use the 'top' command, somtimes it does not show the list of processes?? does it have to be running a special vt100 or something?? how long did you wait for the screen to show? Top need one sample period before it displays the first process list related output. On a loaded sysetm, this may take a few seconds. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Die Frauen haben es ja von Zeit zu Zeit auch nicht leicht. Wir Männer aber müssen uns rasieren. -- Kurt Tucholsky ***
Perl 5.6.0 and slink
Hi everyone, I have a number of questions related to the installation of Perl Version 5.6.0. I am trying to compile the Perl modules distributed with pilot-link from reyham.ee.reyerson.ca to use them with a self compiled Perl 5.6.0 under potato. p Unfortunately the modules will not compile, even though they compile and run fine when used with the Debian's Perl 5.005. Has anyone experienced the same problems? If so, have these problems been solved? I remember that there was a pilot-unix mailing list, but aparently I mislayed its address when I unsibscribed. Now I am unable to find this list. Could a kind soul please supply me with this address again. How does one handle the integration of the Debian configuration modules into the new Perl tree? Or is there no possibility to deactivate the system supplied perl? Thanks in advance. Best Regards -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Staroffice
Hi Stefan, Goeman Stefan writes: Hello, I have seen some mails concerning StarOffice. Can someone tell me where I can find this package, because I can not find it on the Debian distribution (or perhaps I am not searching good). StartOffice is a product of Sun Microsystems (after they bought StarDivision, anyway). You sould be able to get it at http://www.sun.com/staroffice. You need to download 60-70 Meg. Best no to use the trusted 300 baud modem... AFIAK they don't offer debian packages, but installation in /usr/local or any other place is straight forward and simple. Regards -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Die Frauen haben es ja von Zeit zu Zeit auch nicht leicht. Wir Männer aber müssen uns rasieren. -- Kurt Tucholsky ***
RE: dumbass wm question
Dominic Blythe writes: thanks very much stephan - that clears it up a bit. so i could survive with, for instance X + sawmill + midnight commander, but then I wouldn't necessarily have all the handy taskbar/configuration utilities? sort of :-) Since neither KDE nor GNOME are mopnolithic block of software but consist of a ton of small programs, there is no reason, why you cannot start the relevant programs for the taskbar. If you installed GNOME, try running gnome-panel after starting up X. This will give you the panel, and it will also start up an instance of the GNOME Midnight Commander, a filemanager. You will not have the session management by GNOME, i.e. saving and resorting the desktop status and you will have to configure each application indiviually, whereas when using GNOME right away (starting gnome-session as your window-manager) you are able to use the gnome control center to centrally configure everything. You should be able to use sawmill as you Window Manager and have all the other neat stuff. As usually, there's more than one way to do it. Have fun -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** He's dead, Jim. You grab his wallet, I'll grab his tricorder. ***
RE: dumbass wm question
Hi, Dominic Blythe writes: so is there a full-on desktop that's pretty tiny? if i want to know what time/day it is i can look at the clock on my wall etc Maybe take a look at xfce (www.xfce.org). I am not sure what you mean by tiny. If memory usage is a concern, you are probably better of using a plain window manager without too many bells and wistles, like Window Maker or Sawmill. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** He's dead, Jim. You grab his wallet, I'll grab his tricorder. ***
leafnode and Gnus
Hi everyone, last night I set up leafnode on my home system (Potato as of two days ago) in order to retrieve news from my ISP (works like a charm). At work I use Gnus as my news reader, and I'd like to use it at home, too. I set the follwing variables in my ~/.gnus-file to use the local spool, rather than use nntp to localhost (setq nnspool-spool-directory /var/spool/news) (setq nnspool-nov-directory /var/spool/over.view) (setq nnspool-active-file /var/spool/news/active.read) Now when I start up, Gnus complains that it cannot find the active file. I have been unable to find anything in the doc of leafnode where it puts the active file. I am using the XEmacs 21.1.10 and the Gnus version which came with it. Could a kind soul please help me to straighten my setup? Thanks in advance. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** He's dead, Jim. You grab his wallet, I'll grab his tricorder. ***
Re: leafnode and Gnus
Any particular reason not to use NNTP? Speed, pure speed. my first idea was to use nntp, but the Gnus manual says that using a local spool is recommended for speed reasons. Nntp works well, though. I guess I' just have to switch. Leafnode's nearest equivalent to an active file is /var/spool/news/leaf.node/groupinfo, but it's not stored in the same format as an active file so I'd be surprised if Gnus didn't barf on it. You should probably use NNTP to read news - Leafnode isn't intended to support anything else. I didn't know that - I would have thought that the directory structures and file formats are somewhat generic for most news servers. Oh silly me. Thanks anyways. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** He's dead, Jim. You grab his wallet, I'll grab his tricorder. ***
Re: Remove Sendmail
Hi Jay, Jay Kelly writes: Hello All, How can I remove Sendmail and install something just a get mail like fetchmail I guess? I accidently installed sendmail not knowing that I really dont need it. Well, two things: (1) First of all you need something to deliver your local mail. What fethcmail does is to first pop the mail from you ISP, then hand it over to your local mail tralsport agent (e.g. sendmail or exim). You could of course use a mailer with native pop3 support, like netscape or mutt, but I don't know how well they work as I am running the fetchmail/sendmail combo. (2) Since you are most likely going to be writing mails, you will need a piece of software to deliver this mail to its destination. Again, this could be sendmail or exim, postfix, pic any MTA you like. Bottom line: you need a Mail Transport Agent, even if it's just for the delivery of local error mails. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** He's dead, Jim. You grab his wallet, I'll grab his tricorder. ***
Re: unknown file appeared in home directory
Hi David, David Karlin writes: $ file jzip39143D5C0850D1C jzip39143D5C0850D1C: Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract Okay, now I know what _type_ of file it is. What would have put this here? What's in the archive? Maybe the contents will tell you what the original name used to be. Did netscape crash on you while you were dowloading some zip-archive? Did unzip die on you for some reason or other? Did you computer crash so you had to reboot? Well, then again this file should be in the lost+found directory if it has been slavaged by fsck... Who is the owner of the file? If it's not you, could this be a breach in your system's securty? Have fun -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon... -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
RE: sources of debian apps: is there a standard place?
Hi Dominic, Dominic Blythe writes: i'm pretty new to debian, but i'm compiling things becos what i want isn't available as binaries - i'm praying i'll still be able to search and destroy stuff when i want to get rid of it without killing a lot of things i don't understand as well :-) Well, you may want to have a look at a perl script called stow. It's included in the Debian distribution. It does a nice Job of allowing you to use a by-package-directory structure, while automatically merging everythign together into one tree by using symlinks. You can install your program in say /usr/local/packages/myprog1, cd to /usr/local/packages and stow myprog1. This will create /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/man/man1 (whatever is underneat myprog1) and populate the directories with symlinks. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon... -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
Re: Finding all user files
Hi, Brian Clark writes: Can someone show me a way that I can find all files on a system belonging to a specific user or group on a given system? Short answer: man find :-) Long answer: find / -group groupname -print Long answer: find / -user username -print I've tried to find this out on my own, but I'm having trouble figuring out what it is exactly that I'm looking for. :-) find(1) is your friend. Have fun -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** I AM DEATH, NOT TAXES. *I* TURN UP ONLY ONCE. ***
Re: Simple text screen editor
Hi, John Gould writes: Ease of use is much more important than editing power, hence the requirement to not use vi or vim. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Some options are: * pico - used to be included with pine, I think it's available seperately now. * joe - a mixture of Wordstar- and Emacs-compatible keystrokes... I'd probably try pico, but that's just personal preference for cases like this. Best regards -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** I AM DEATH, NOT TAXES. *I* TURN UP ONLY ONCE. ***
Re: Netscape
Hi, Timothy C. Phan writes: Does 'potato' support netscape 4.7, yes, and where can I get the netscape? Thanks! It's either part of the non-free distribution (check dselect for the netscape packages) or grab one from www.netscape.com. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logrotate
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ logrotate troubles ] logrotate.conf. The problem is that everytime it rotates my syslog files (weekly) it screws up syslog by making log to messages.0 etc... basically all my normal syslog files with a .0 extension. Anyone have this happen to them? This is normal behaviour for syslogd, it is not related to logrotate. I've had this happen to me under various versions of Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and Linux. Try renaming your syslog's output file by hand and you will encounter the same effect. I don't really have any idea why this is the case, it's probably a question of not closed filehandles - maybe some kind soul could clarify this for all of us :-) I have temorarily added a restart to the rotate for syslog to restart syslog which solves the problem but it still creates the files. This is the preferred solution I have seen on enessitally every site which rotates its syslogs - and under any kind of UNIX-dialect, too. Personally I think it's a good idea to HUP your daemons after rotating their log files. I just keeps this a little tidier. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** from the Sendmail-FAQ: Question 3.6: deprecated. ***
Re: Sound from cassete to mp3
Hi Antonio, Antonio Rodriguez writes: What is the best way of transferring sound stored in cassete to mp3? Can this be done without the microphone? you should be able to get an adaptor cable of the form 2-Chinch - 3.5mm (whatever this type of plug is called in English :-). These cables are often part of a soundcard package. If you do not own such a cable, visit you local Hifi store. Then connect your sound cards line in with the tapedecks output sockets, hit record on your computer and play on you tapedeck. If you own one of those compact stereos you'll have to check what type of output sockets this machine offers. I have to mention one thing,thoug: Typically the sound quality of a regular tape is fairly low compared to CD's, additionally there is always some background noise created by the tape machine's motors. You may be disappointed with the results of your experient. I'd simply see if I can buy the CD.. TTUL8R -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ~, sweet ~ ***
Spell checker which understands HTML
Hi! is anyone aware of a spellchecker that ignores HTML-tags while doing its job? Preferably one for which a German dictionary exists. I know that ispell is TeX- and nroff-aware (according to the manual), but I have had no luck with HTML. I am running the ispell included in the slink distribution - maybe I just missed a command line switch?! Thanks for any hints in advance. TTUL8R -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ~, sweet ~ ***
Re: Spell checker which understands HTML
Hi Joey, Joey Hess writes: that ispell is TeX- and nroff-aware (according to the manual), but I have had no luck with HTML. I am running the ispell included in the slink distribution - maybe I just missed a command line switch?! In potato at least: -h The input file is in html format. which version of ispell are you running - I checked mine and it says 3.1.20. After some checking on the net it seems that this is the most recent version available in source form. My ispell does not offer the -h option. Debian.org says slink's ispell is version 3.1.20-0.4 whereas potatoe's is 3.1.20-4. What is this suppoed to tell me? The basis for these packages has not changes, has it? What's the difference between these two? Ciao - Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Hautpsache es geht vorwärts, die Richtung ist egal! ***
Re: small lab
Hi Mario Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes: I need to set a small lab where one machine will be a server and 3 or 4 others clients. These clients will mount /home from server and I would like to have a central authentication. All machines already run potato. What's the better way to do this? Any suggestion is welcome, please! I suggest you use the automounter (check the autofs and exports man pages) to share the home-directories. For central authentication you may want to look at NIS or NIS+ (more secure). I am not sure if there is a NIS+-impelentation available for Linux (our site uses plain NIS). These Network Information Services keep a password map in a central server. Name service can be achieved by either setting up a small DNS-Server or via NIS/NIS+. You do not really want to update /etc/hosts by hand or automatically if you are running on a network -- in my expeirience it's just to errorprone. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ~, sweet ~ ***
Re: Emacs 20.4
Hi , Nic Ferrier writes: When running inside X windows (using latest GNOME and Enlightenment is WM) the DEL key and the deletechar key are mapped to the same key symbol. This is perfectly normal (for Emacs, that is). It's an Emacs/XEmacs issue and not related to your X version or your windowmanger/desktop. Add the following line to your ~/.emacs file or your site-start.el file to make the delete key send DEL instead of Backspace. ;; DEL deletes to the right (global-set-key [delete] 'delete-char) Note: This may clobber some mode specific mappings for the delete key. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Y2K conversion simplified: Januark, Februark, March, April, Mak, June, Julk, August, September, October, November, December. ***
Re: Perl
Hi Tim, Tim Bedding writes: Is Perl 5 part of the standard Debian 2.1 installation? Perl 5 is part of the standard distribution. Whether or not you install it is up to you. Check with dpgk -l or dselect. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Y2K conversion simplified: Januark, Februark, March, April, Mak, June, Julk, August, September, October, November, December. ***
Re: C programing
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 10:07:28PM +, John Carline wrote: Stephan Engelke wrote: How 'bout Kerninghan, Ritchie: The C Programming Language. Sorry, forgot the publisher. There's a score of other good, allright, and bad books around. Check your local bookstore. After spending the last two days trying to convert a C program I wrote some 6 years ago in microsoft C into linux. I just have to echo this question. Is there no linux specific/best book that covers gcc and g++. One that includes all the standard library calls . I currently have four books on C (not the Kerninghan book though. I'll have to go look at it) and they're basically worthless. I'm not sure if it's that they're simply too old or too 'microsoft', but I'd love to find a book on gcc that would be a simple but complete reference for the occasional C programer. Kerninghan/Ritchie do not cover gcc as such - even though most of their examples are take from a UNIX system and some are based on UNIX systems. The C Programming Language is IMHO a book to learn the basics from. It's not the book you want to read to assist you in porting software from one system to another. For special needs regarding Linux systems refer to the library's info-documentation. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C programing
Hi, On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 01:30:34PM +0200, Benak Istvan wrote: Someone tell me how can I find a doc about C programing (I downloaded the Programmer's Guide, but I can't programming under C, so I want to learn it!) So I need a doc for lammers! How 'bout Kerninghan, Ritchie: The C Programming Language. Sorry, forgot the publisher. There's a score of other good, allright, and bad books around. Check your local bookstore. Cheers, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Soft drugs lead to hard drugs: You start with Marihuana and by the end of the night you'll be eating Big Macs.***
Re: Emacs20: problem redefining umlaut-keys
Hi Jonas, On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 12:46:04AM +0200, Jonas Rathert wrote: I've got some problems using Emacs 20 with my Debian/GNU Linux system (potato): In my .emacs I have the following lines: ---8--(snip,snip)--8 (define-key c-mode-map [?ö] [) ; o-umlaut - [ ---8--(snip,snip)--8 here's an example of what I do on my system, using FSF Emacs 20.4.1. (defun insert-c-left-bracket () (interactive) (insert \[)) (define-key c-mode-map (quote [246]) 'insert-c-left-bracket) Use the keycodes you send to the list (223, 252, 246, ...) Hope this helps. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Soft drugs lead to hard drugs: You start with Marihuana and by the end of the night you'll be eating Big Macs.***
Re: dvips -d 2400 How??? default printer does not support 2400dpi
Hi, On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 11:00:11AM +0200, Daniel Haude wrote: this only concern metafont to produce a dvi. dvips relies on ghostscript (either gs or gs-alladin) to do the conversion. What does dvips need ghostscript for? It doesn't. All one needs ghostscript for is printing on non-postscript printers and as a backend for gv/ghostview. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Soft drugs lead to hard drugs: You start with Marihuana and by the end of the night you'll be eating Big Macs.***
Re: Printable area for HP LJ 6L
Hi folks, On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 02:08:23PM +0200, Laurent Martelli wrote: DP == David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DP printing seems to more or less happen, except that the printable DP area seems to be incorrectly set. For example when I print a DP text file using a2ps, it starts printing too far inside the page DP edge and doesn't fit everything in. I have similar problems using the chord utility. The page numbers are very near teh bottom of the page, and they are printted printed completely. Characters are cut horizontally. AFAIK this is an a2ps problem. I have encountered this both with a 6L and an old Deskjet 500. Enscript, on the other hand, runs flawlessly on my 6L. No missing characters and pagesize is set properly, too. Other than the a2ps problem, I have had no trouble at all with my HP6L What happens if you print from Ghostscript? So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Soft drugs lead to hard drugs: You start with Marihuana and by the end of the night you'll be eating Big Macs.***
Re: X, WindowMaker, and the such
Hi, On Fri, Oct 08, 1999 at 09:28:28AM +0200, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Btw, how do I compile a new wmaker for slink? The slink version is Window Maker 0.20.3 and I think the unstable version is not as unstable as the slink version... Go to www.windowmaker.org Grab Window Maker 0.61.1, libPropList 0.9.1 and WindowMaker-extras-0.1. They are all available via links on the main page. Start by compiling and installing libPropList, next build the Window Maker and optionally install the extras package (additional icons and such). If you have automake installed, you need to upgrade to Version 2.13, too. All the software compiled flawlessly on my Slink system. The default installation location is /usr/local - since you build it yourself and do not have any entries in the package-database, I would leave the prefix set to /usr/local. If you set it to /usr you may not be able to get rid of the software if you want to. Possibly even consider using stow. Mail me if there are any further questions. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Soft drugs lead to hard drugs: You start with Marihuana and by the end of the night you'll be eating Big Macs.***
Re: Clock is loosing time
Hi David, On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:07:02AM -0500, David Kanter wrote: Is there a way to sync the time with a server when I start a PPP, so I won't have to worry about this in the future? I vaguely remember a mention of this when installing Slink. Check xntp and ntpdate. I believe there is a .deb-package called xntp. Next place a call to ntpdate servername in your ip-up.d. This should do the trick. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Soft drugs lead to hard drugs: You start with Marihuana and by the end of the night you'll be eating Big Macs.***
Re: metafont
Hi Andrew, On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 09:50:48AM +0200, Andrew Hately wrote: Is there a debian metafont distribution? Metafont is part of the TeX package (tetex-*.deb). Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke o[EMAIL PROTECTED] - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_
Re: Brand spankin new user...
Hi, On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 02:52:02AM -0700, Craig B wrote: One last note, I don't mean to discourage you from using Debian, but it _is_ the most difficult to install. I understand that RedHat and Caldera are the easiest. You may want to get your feet wet with one of those and then graduate to Debian (it has a lot to offer) after you have earned some salt. well, I respecfully disagree. IMHO it's better to jump into the cold water, i.e. start with Debian right away, rather than starting with one of the supposingly easier ones and then spend some time learning about the differences between Debian and some other distribution. And if you finally got your Red Hat or Caldera set up, why would you want to reinstall everything just to use a different distribution. If you haven't worked with Linux before it does not matter which distribution you choose - IMHO they are all equally complicated to install. A friend of mine who had no prior experience with Linux and is not too sharp with computers took a look at different distributions and decided to install Debian, because he liked the generic way this distribution offered, without any specifig configuration files or system dependent config tools. He got Debian up and running on the first try and is quite happy with it. I do not think one needs to be intimidated by Debian because the installation procedure is a little more complicated than SuSE's yast or Red Hat. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] o - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_
Re: Is there any way to view MS Excel files under linux?
Hi Alex, the StarCalc part of the StarOffice-suite is able to import Excel-files. Gnumeric also (partially) understands the Excel-format. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] ***Die 10 Gebote: 279 Wörter Die Amerikanische Unabhängigkeitserklärung:300 Wörter Die Verordnung über den Import von Karamellbonbons: 25.911 Wörter ***
Re: Release names
Hi Urban, On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 07:22:30AM +0200, Urban Gabor wrote: Just a slightly offtopic question, what are the names Debian chooses for the releases? I mean, bo, hamm, slink and potato? for the price of only $49.95 + tax + shipping/handling I give you ... the Debian-FAQ. Dive deep into the infinite wisdom of this document! Find out everything you allways wanted to know about life, universe and Debian GNU/Linux! This misterious document has been anxiously guarded by a secret sect, the Keepers Of The Wisdom for many centuries. In book 6, verse 6 (Where do these codenames come from?) you will find the your point of entry into the heaven of knowledge. Become part of the few men and women to reach the highest level of enlightenment! (Make checks payable to the Debian people, you'll have a 30 money back guarantee...) Sorry, couldn't resist (no offence meant) ;-) So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Meddle not in the affairs of wizards, for poof ... ribbit. ***
Re: getright or netvampire for Debian?
Hi, On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 01:28:28PM +0200, Jure wrote: Is there any similar software for Debian? wget. It's part of the GNU progject and it comes with the Debian distribution. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Meddle not in the affairs of wizards, for poof ... ribbit. ***
Re: How do we restart X?
Hi, On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 08:24:21PM +0800, Ling Alexander wrote: When I telnet in from another machine, I always check see that all the background jobs are running fine. The only problem is that my previous login (the one that hung) is no longer listed under ps and top, so I do not know how to kill and restart the X-server. I end up having to reboot the machine. Anybody got any ideas on how to fix this problem? there should be a process for the X-Server (the binary is typically called X). Try a ps ax | grep X (capital X) and kill or kill -9 the X-Server. This is a brutal way, but it should get rid of the X for you. Is it possible that only the Netscape hangs? This is a problem I encounter once in a while.If you can find the netscape in the ps ax-list, try killing it first. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Meddle not in the affairs of wizards, for poof ... ribbit. ***
Re: Text processing under Linux - newbie question
Hi Alex, I've heard such words as TeX, LaTeX, TeTeX, Emacs that should deal with subj. But where can i find some kind of introduction and feature description for this apps and general conception for using them. Emacs is a text editor. TeX is a typesetting system developed at Stanford University by Donald E. Knuth. It uses a compiler-program called tex to interpret the ASCII-source files of the documents. LaTeX is the name of the most commonly used macro package by Leslie Lamport. teTeX is the TeX/LaTeX/.. distribution by Thomas Esser. Your Debian comes with this distribution. In TeX/LaTeX the content and the markup are completely seperated, sort of HTML with style sheets. You type your text into your favourite texteditor, e.g. Emacs, run the TeX-compiler and view the device independet output. You are able to program you own macros and to easily extend/replace the existing document classes. The concept is somewhat archaic, just remember that TeX 1.0 what released in 1979, twenty years ago. For further information refer to www.ctan.org. There is a list of TeX-related books on this web-site. Oh, and as opposed to MS word TeX/LaTeX handles 50+ pages without thought... If you are after a software with GUI, drag 'n' drop and WYSIWYG you may want to take a look at Startoffice (www.stardivision.de) or at the Linux version of WordPerfect. My suggestion is to get either Lamport's LaTeX handbook or the LaTeX introduction by Helmut Kopka (available in English and German) and start using LaTeX. Cheers -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: perl leap year function?
Hi folks, Is there one available in any of the perl modules? If not I could just hardcode the next few into my script... isn't that essentially why we've got a Y2K problem, because nobody thought those old COBOL hacks would last mor that 5 years... and that was 30 years ago. Seriously: Write a subroutine to do this for you. In a few years you will ge glad. Here's my version; the leapyear formula comes straight out of Kerninghan and Ritchies The C Programming language. You may want to add some error checking, but it should do the job. ---88- #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw $thisyear = 1999; if ( isLeapYear($thisyear) ) { print $thisyear, is a leapyear.\n; } else { print $thisyear, is a not leapyear.\n; } # compute if argument is a leap year, # return 1 if leapyear, 0 if not. sub isLeapYear { my $year = $_[0]; if ( (($year % 4 == 0) ($year % 100 != 0)) || ($year % 400) == 0) { return 1; } return 0; } ---88- So long -- Stehan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: any gif animator for linux!!
Hi, On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 01:56:01AM -0700, ZEN MYSTIC wrote: is there any gif animator available for linux...if so pls tell where to get... try whirlgif, it should be part of the Debian distribution. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: Adaptec AHA-2940
Hi Andrew, On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 01:21:46PM +0100, Andrew Hodgson wrote: Anyone know if this SCSI adapter works with Debian? I am using an Adaptec 2940 U2W without any problems. The machine is running Slink and humming right along. There are some special 2940-boot disks around, since your problem is aparently not unique. Check the Debian web-site to download those disks. Maybe they help. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: Logitech Mouseman / X
Hi Fraser, Just got a new computer and cannot get the mouse to work with X no matter what I try. The mouse is 3 buttons, PS/2 and labeled as a Logitech Mouseman. which mouse-type did you choose for gpm? I assume you chose ps2. The same protocol should work with X11. Do not choose the Mouseman protocol, AFIAK it's reserved for older (very old) Logitech mice. Did you restart X after making the changes to /etc/X11/XF86Config? How did you make the changes? Did you use a program like XF86Setup? XF86Setup lets you test the current mouse configuration by clicking on the apply button. What happens if you try to recreate the X configuration file from scratch using xf86config of XF86Setup? So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: user name lenght
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 09:50:29AM +0200, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: - The usual max is 8 characters. You can use more but why? - because i have a long surname ;-). don't risk problems with programs scripts which take only 8 chars; use your first name as login then ;) Initials are common, too. Alternatively abbreviate your surname or think of a creative way to assign user ids (ok - for use at hoem this is usually overkill...) So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: Moving slink to kernel 2.2
Hi Raymond, On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:23:51AM -0400, Raymond A. Ingles wrote: I've done some poking around on the website, but I can't seem to find a list of what needs to be upgraded to move to 2.2. I'd rather not go to potato just yet, so is there a set of instructions for running slink on 2.2? there are two methods: (1) The hard way get the kernel untar the sources configure the kernel compile the kernel be merry and have a drink install the kernel reboot. (2) The Zen way Grab the kernel sources and check the README file. It will tell you what versions of what tools you need to achieve a state of perpetual freedom and happyness. On a slink system freshly installed from CD I chose (1) and never had a problem. Slink is 2.2 ready. (I did check the kernel readme afterwards an noticed that all packages are current enough.) Be aware of the changes in the networking code, though. You do not need the route commands in /etc/init.d/network anymore. They will create a harmless errormessage at boottime. Comment them out. Have fun -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: Moving slink to kernel 2.2
Hi folks, On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:04:37AM -0500, Brian Servis wrote: problem. Slink is 2.2 ready. Not according to http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/running-kernel-2.2 OK. I'll guiltily rephrase the answer: I have not encountered any trouble running kernels 2.2.3 and 2.2.9 on a slink system straight off the CD. I have not yet encountered any of the potential problems mentioned in the document pointed to to the above URL. Sorry for creating confusion. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: Printing problem
Hi Y'all, On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 07:51:10AM -0500, Paul Miller wrote: Isabelle Poueriet wrote: lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4m-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Why use a printfilter? As far as I know, all HP LaserJets have built in support for postscript. no, they do not all come with PS support! Especially the L-series doesn't do Postscript! I do not use magicfilter myself, but is it possible, that the filter which is being used only accepts Postscript files. If so, try to run the text file through a2ps or enscript first. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: Creative Labs 3d blaster 16MB
Hi, On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 07:20:54PM -0700, Oz Dror wrote: Is the card above supported? if so which version of x11 I need. Yes, it's supported, I am using it wight now! Support starts with the XFree 3.3.3.1 SVGA-server I believe. If you're using Slink you will need to uprade your SVGA-Server, since Slink comes with Xfree 3.3.2. where can I get mode lines up to 1600x1200 XF86Config should be your friend. I've got my card running at 1280x1024. No problem at all. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: egcs
Hi Robert, On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 07:40:09PM -0600, Robert Kerr wrote: Hi All, I'm using egcs for my software project. This is the output for g++ -v. gcc version egcs-2.91.60 Debian 2.1 (egcs-1.1.1 release) are you aware that the egcs team is now the official maintainer of gcc? Egcs and gcc were merged to create gcc 2.95. Egcs development will not be continued. There are some gcc 2.8 features which have no been included in gcc 2.95 yet - please check the Cygnus-site (www.cygnus.com) for further information. I don't think there is a need to send a bug report now. If you still think that egcs 1.1.2 will be necessary, compiling the compiler suite youself is quite simple (./configure; make; make install does the job). I still think that you ought to try gcc 2.95. Be aware that it's quite unforgiving as far as illegal language contructs are - once again, check the developer teams's site at cygnus. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: killing ALL of a user's processes at once
Hi Guilherme, I was wondering if there's a way to kill all of a user's processes at once... This would be VERY useful in cases like today, when I made a little mistake in my crontab and a process that should be started at 6h00 am was started once for each minute between 6h00 and 7h00... OK, it was VERY stupid to put * 6 on the crontab instead of 00 6, but then the only solution I found to stop all those 60 processes that were running when I got here, at 9h00, was to reboot the machine... Oh Oh ... If all processes are the created from the same program, say /usr/local/bin/foo, then killall /usr/local/bin/foo would solve your problem. This is probably what you wanted this morning. If you are trying to kill off all processes started by a certain user try somthing like # kill `ps aux | awk '/userid/ { print $2 }'` So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: [Debian: KDE] How to change the screen resolution
Hi Michelle, On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 03:21:13PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Please can anyone tel me, how to change the screen resolution to 1024x768x256 ??? you want to make changes to /etc/X11/XF86Config. There are two programs to aide you in this process: (1) xf86config, terminal tool and (2) XF86Setup, which has a nice GUI and lets you click and point to anything you need. The program needs to be run as root. Hope this helps. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Microsoft leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering. -- Master Yoda (more or less) ***
Re: script to remove blank lines ?
Hi, On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 12:25:03PM +0530, venu wrote: if in a file I have say 10 lines and some of them are blank lines ,how do i remove the blank lines ? grep -v ^$ filename This gets you all lines with something between the line's beginning (^) and its end ($). Or rather without nothing between beginning and end (-v is grep's negation option). So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the Plug almost always works. ***
Re: Linux Kernel 2.2.10
Hi Graham, On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 08:48:51AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just downloaded and installed the image and headers for the 2.2.10 kernel, and I am now getting the following error on boot SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument Does anyone know what the program is? did you by chance upgrade from a 2.0.x kernel? If so you need to know that the networking code in the 2.2.x kernels has changed. You do not need to explicitly use the route command - the kernel will do this for you. Call to route and friends usually result in the errormessage you mentioned. Check /etc/init.d/network and comment out the route commands, this should do the trick. I am not sure if you need the gateway setting in this file either. Have fun. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the Plug almost always works. ***
Re: most: cannot display *.gz files
On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 08:15:53AM +, Walter Logeman wrote: While we are on the subject, what I can't do is stop the file from scrolling past, is there a way to view them page by page? cat filename| more zcat filename.gz | more gzip -dc filename.gz | more (generic way, zcat usually is a link to gzip) more filename If the pager less is installed, replace more with less if you like. Less also comes with a decompression-mode. zless filename.gz zless, gzip and zcat also operate on files created by compress(1) (i.e. .Z-files). So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the Plug almost always works. ***
Re: tail -f /var/log/messages and top
Hi Patrick, On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 04:02:43PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: Thanks for the answers on this. It seems the top problem is due to the NT telnet client. Could someone recommend a decent telnet client for NT. It needs to be something that the techies at work won't be horrified by which usually means a proper uninstall routine for when I move offices. Add something like this to your /etc/profile, ~/.bashrc, or .profile: 8-8-- # correct terminal settings if connecting from Nice Try if [ $TERM == ansi ] then TERM=vt100 export TERM fi -8-8- Works like a charm and is probably the easiest sollution as far as maintainance goes. This is the solution we chose for you entire department. This sollution has the advantage of coming with the most widely distributed uninstall solution of all times: use your favourite text editor. :-) So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** If only women came with pulldown menus and online help. ***
Re: tail -f /var/log/messages and top
Hi Patrick, On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 10:26:43AM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: enterprise:/home/patrick# tail -f /var/log/messages Jul 28 07:14:11 enterprise -- MARK -- [ ... lots of marks removed ... ] This is syslogd's way of telling you that it's still alive (you don't have to feed it, though.) Another place to look for error messages would be /var/log/syslog, if you are using the default syslong.conf-file. Take a look at this file, maybe you need to customize it a little to see more messages or maybe the messages you want are written to a different file. I don't know what might cause your top problem. I'm having problems with dropped connections and would like to be able to use these commands. If this is a RTFM, please do let me know which FM to R. PPP usually writes to /var/log/syslog, some, but not as many of the daemons's messages are sent to /var/log/messgaes, too. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** If only women came with pulldown menus and online help. ***
Re: .tgz? How do I go about extracting them?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 09:41:18PM +1000, Revenant wrote: There's a very complex method listed in my Running Linux book. But, given the rate at which Linux is evolving, pretty old. Is there a easier, newer way than that convoluted string piping from gzip to tar etc. ? The gzip -dc filename.tar.gz | tar -xf - -Method is the generic way to go about this task. This works on any Unix system. If GNU tar is at hand, which is usually the case unter Linux, use the -z-switch. This processes the file with gzip first; it turns the above command into tar -xzf filename.tar.gz Note that gzip understands both .gz-files (of course) and older .Z (compress) files. Newer versions of GNU tar (1.12) also support bzip2 compressed files (.bz2) with the -I switch. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** If only women came with pulldown menus and online help. ***
Re: Apache and user cgi scripts
Hi, On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 03:36:32PM +0200, Robert Varga wrote: .htaccess in it contains: AddHandler cgi-script .cgi possibly you need to allow Override of the addhandler options in one of the global config files. Also, try adding (uncommenting) the AddHandler directive in one of the global config-files. Did you include support for the .htacces facilites? Is it configured? So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** If only women came with pulldown menus and online help. ***
Re: Mcopy
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 07:23:04PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: I can't figure how to use it though . MAN mcopy says to type something like eg mcopy -t/resolv.conf /dev/fd0 but that only gives me Can't open /dev/fd0/resolv.conf: Not a directory My mcopy manual tells me to try mcopy sourcefile targetfile. Targetfile is a MS-DOS drive letter like a: :-) mcopy -t /resolf.conf a: Should do the trick, provided that there is an MS-DOS-filesystem on the floppy. If not, use mformat a: to create the filesystem and then use mcopy. /etc/mtools.conf should contain a line like drive a: file=/dev/fd0 exclusive This defines a: to be your first floppy drive. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Siehst Du die Gräber dort hinterm Strauch? Sie rauchten nicht - und starben auch! ***
Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Hi folks, On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:57:26PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote: One issue: there is already a lot of documentation out there. ( I will not vouch for its quality or lack thereof, but volume is something that it does not lack). Every package should have a manpage, and often there is stuff in /usr{/share}/doc/package also, as well as all the web-based documentation. the most common problem I have encountered when suggesting Linux as an OS to other people is, that even though there is a wealth of docs out there, new users don't know where to look for them. Newbies need to be told where to find the information. I think that in many cases the doc's are not read simply because the user is not aware of them (I had a user in here the other day who, after two years of using a UNIX system, did not know about the man command ...). I think this is a problem which needs to be addressed. I think the idea of a bug report/debian-user post-checklist is great. * ) a list of (too) commonly asked questions and answers I think that a pointer to such a list would be sufficient - provided it is part of the base system install. How good is any documentation if the user/system administrator is not forced to install it? ;-) * ) a list of places to look for further documentation - man/apropos - info - /usr{/share}/doc/HOWTO - online places + online version of the (Debian-specific) FAQ. There are some tools out there to automatically maintain a FAQ. Maybe something like the FAQ-O-Matic could be helpful, does anyone have experiences with such a system? * ) a checklist that the user can follow to attempt to report (or maybe even fix...) problems as they occur Checklists are easy for users to follow, require no previous knowledge, and teach processes for fixing things. And they might lead to more detailed bug reports, easier to resond to. They most definitly do. The user will supply all vital information, even if the user is not able to tell which information is considered vital by himself. Just my $.02. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron, crontab, etc.
Hi folks, On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 01:07:09PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote: I want to schedule a command to run updatebd every 6 hours. The man pages for cron and crontab don't have any useful info on how. How do I do this? Add the following line to your crontab (use the crontab -e command): 0 0,6,12,18 * * * /where/ever/updatedb/lives The format is: minute (0-59), hour (0-23), day of the month (1-31), month of the year (1-12), day of the week (0-6 with 0=Sunday), command to be run. * stands for any value. The above example runs the command /where/ever/updatedb/lives every day of the month, every month of the year, every day of the week, at the hours 0:00 (midnight) 6:00, 12:00, 18:00 (6:00pm). You may need to set the path in updatedb explicitly, I don't know the script's internals. I don't have a Debian box handy - maybe you need to look at the manpage in section 5 (file formats) of the manual: man 5 crontab The basic format should be described in both the crontab(1) and the crontab(5) manpages. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Siehst Du die Gräber dort hinterm Strauch? Sie rauchten nicht - und starben auch! ***
Re: Centralized script ...
Hi folks, On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 10:13:01AM -0500, Debian Developer wrote: I am beginning to realize that one of the biggest difference (drawback) of Debian versus Caldera or SuSE is the abscence of a centralized file (i.e. /etc/rc.config like in SuSE) to hold a bunch of environment variables that define the behavior of the scripts in /etc/rc*.d Is this a design intention, is this a goal ? Just my two cents: I don't think there is any need for environment variables to control the behaviour of the rc?.d-scripts. What would you like to configure? In fact, the use of rc.config is one of the reasons I went away from SuSE and chose Debian. SuSE would not permit me to make partial use of the rc.config file. I have not been able to adapt some (not all) configuration file by hand without having them replaced with the files generated automatically from the rc.config settings. I like having the option of doing everything by hand or by a specifig configuration script (e.g. sendmailconf). I did not find a good way to do something like this using SuSE. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Siehst Du die Gräber dort hinterm Strauch? Sie rauchten nicht - und starben auch! ***
Re: KDE 1.1.1 will it run under slink?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:59:42PM +1000, Carley, Jason Australia wrote: Last question for the night. Running slink, can I use kde 1.1.1 from the binary debs without running into library problems? I compiled my KDE 1.1.1 on a stock Slink system, I believe I used a self compiled qt 1.44. Check for the latest Qt 1.x to be sure. Everything's running fine so far (I still like Window Maker better though, but that's off topic.) So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Siehst Du die Gräber dort hinterm Strauch? Sie rauchten nicht - und starben auch! ***
Re: [DEBIAN] version of tar that does bzip2
Hi Nico, On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 10:33:28AM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote: is there a version of tar somewhere that will recognize bzip2 compression? I don't like untarring in two passes :-) bzip2 -dc filename.tar.bz2 | tar -xvf - works with any tar; bzip2 -d uncompresses and -c sends output to stdout (the pipe), tar -f - reads stdin (the pipe) as input. This does not leave and uncompressed file around, the original compresseed tar-archive is left untouched. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Spare in der Schweiz, dann hast Du in der Not. ***
Re: 2 questions
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 01:22:21PM +0100, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote: Hi I have two questions to pose to the enlightened ones in this mailing list (boy am i poetic today, maybe because a I've a couple of presentations to do today :( ): Number 1 : Is there a way to allow the users to create an auto-responder (so that their email sents a message for every message they got) saying that they are on hollidays. Vacation is your friend here. The ideal would be the possibility to create filters so that the auto responder does not awnser to mailing-lists or a certain number of addresses. Can this be done ? You may want to play around with procmail to achieve this - check the procmail and procmailex man-pages (or was it procmailexamples?) and read up on formail. Procmail can be configured to include the functionality of vacation - it just requires a more elaborate setup. Number 2 : Is there any linux app capable of showing MS Media Player asf files? Dunno. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Spare in der Schweiz, dann hast Du in der Not. ***
Re: DNS lookup with Netscape 4.5, 4.51 and 4.6
Hi folks, thank for the numerous responses on the my Netscape problems -- aparently my Netscape version readded a default name for a news server. I had to remove all news-specific configurations three times before the relevant entries stayed empty. I really thought that the entry had been disabled - stupid me. Now Netscape works as expected. Thanks again. I started having the same problem today, and adding 'forward only;' to my named.conf seems to have improved the situation. I no longer have to wait for a lookup or timeout for Netscape. I did that too - it's been very helpful. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Spare in der Schweiz, dann hast Du in der Not. ***
Re: How to reset a printer from debian?
Hi Wojciech, On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 04:43:57PM +0200, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: Hi all! I have a small problem with my server. It serves as a netware printer (with mars nwe and HP-DJ670C). Sometimes it happens, that one of users sends a print job in the wrong format (e.g. binary data for HP-LJ). wouldn't it be more practical to write a filter which sends files in unwanted formats directly to the big bit bucket rather than to the printer? By checking the first few characters of the printjob you should be able to determine the filetype and decide if you want to send it to the printer or not. This way you could set up a queue which only accepts certain file formats and ignores the rest. Optionally you could probably add some code to create a message, if a file was rejected, although this is usually not the filter's job. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Spare in der Schweiz, dann hast Du in der Not. ***
Re: Making Makefiles
Hi Brad, On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 01:47:29AM -0500, Brad wrote: i'm getting started writing C/C++ programs that are more than one file long, so i decided it's about time i learn to make a makefile. The make info page mentions automake, the automake manpage hints at configure.in... i'm getting confused! automake and friends are used to create the GNU-style configure scripts (which in turn generate Makefiles). I am sure you have seen those. The configure-scripts are nice and easy to handle as far as automatic variable substitution goes (prefix=,...) This is not what make does: make simply checks the exsiting object files and starts a selective recompilation and link process if necessary. Check the make info files again, they contain a pretty good introduction, including examples. For the beginning automake is probably a touch too advanced :-) What's a good way to learn to make good makefiles? Stick to the info files and look at other people's Makefiles - just remember to have your own idea about what's good for you and what's not. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Spare in der Schweiz, dann hast Du in der Not. ***
DNS lookup with Netscape 4.5, 4.51 and 4.6
Hi everyone, on my slink system I have noticed the following behavoiur: Whenever I start Netscape (version = 4.51) it tries perform a DNS lookup of my local hostname (terra.local.universe.de). After approx. 5 minutes the page finally loads. I am using the glibc2/unsupported versions of Netscape. There is an apache webserver running on port 80, which is supposed to serve the starting page. The system is its own DNS server with its own database. Neiter lynx nor nslookup run into this timeout. The hostname is properly resolved. The syslog tells me, that named tries to contact one of its forwarders; these forwarders are machines my ISP provides, therefore I get the errormessage network unreachable if I am not connected. When I am connected to my ISP Netscape 4.51+ starts fine. Netscape 4.5 does not have this problem! I have not changed the user specific configuration files. All smart functions are disabled. Has anyone notices this behaviour, too? If so, what might cause the problem - what could I do to solve it? Thanks in advance. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Spare in der Schweiz, dann hast Du in der Not. ***
Re: man!
Hi I can not reboot my computer every time i install something! I did that in Windows for years. that's one reason you're running Linux, isn't it? So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: HTML formatter
Hi, is there a program that formats html source code. I would like to have a pretty printer for HTML just like 'indent' does with c source code. for interactive work the Emacs's html-helper-mode may be an option. Select the entire buffer and run M-x indent-region (forgot the keystroke, sorry). So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: setting up a home lan
Hi Shao, On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 04:14:40PM +, Shao Zhang wrote: Can anyone tell me what are the procedures to set up two computers to talk to each other via ethernet. In particular, what kind of ip I can choose. Is there a HOWTO on this?? Check /usr/doc/HOWTO. There should be (if installed) an Enterhnet-HOWTO and a network-HOWTO; I'm not 100% sure about the names, just take a look into the directory. First you need to setup the hardware (network-cards, Twisted Pair or RG58-wire, if you will be using TP). If your netword-adaptors are Plug-and-Pray cards you will need to use isapnp (cf. man isapnp, man isapnp.conf) to initialize your cards. Next, you need to compile the networking support either into the kernel or compile and install the necessary modules. /etc/services and friends should be setup OK if you have not changed them. Depending on what you want to do, you may need to edit the /etc/hosts files on both computers or install a DNS server on one of them to achieve name resolution. Possible IP-addresses are (for example) everything starting with 192.168. This is a private network, which is not used anywhere on the internet, so you will not create any duplicate IP-addresses. So much for a road-map. The HOWTOs will know more about you specific setup. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: filtering of text files
Hi Richard, On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 12:12:37PM +, Richard Harran wrote: I need to filter some text files to convert all the letters to the same case, and to remove punctuation. I guess I should use 'sed', but the man page is disfunct, and I'm struggling with the info. Could someone give me a hint (particularly for the case change thing). you may want to consider any of the awk-dialects ({n,m,g}awk). awk's got functions called tolower(argument) and toupper(argument) for case changes. To simply convert everything to lowercase and remove the punctuation one could use the following awk command ($0 contains the entire line of text.) and pipe the result to sed: awk '{ print tolower($0) }' inputfile | sed -e 's/[.,:;]//g' outputfile The sed command replaces all occurences of whatever you place in the brackets with nothing. You may need to add more punctuation to the set. So long -- Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: Writing CRON job to null.
Hi, command /dev/null 21 What does the 2 and 1 stand for, and the ? One is standard output, right? 2 is stderr, the standard error message output. (For example, try make /tmp/foo; /tmp/foo will be (almost) empty, since make throws (almost) all messages to stderr.) Regarding the ampersand-contruct: Channel 2 is redirected to channel 1 which is redirected to /dev/null. In short: all error messages go into the big bit bucket. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: dependencies
Hi, On Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 08:20:22AM -0500, ktb wrote: A few weeks ago someone posted a command that showed the dependencies of a program. I must have inadvertently deleted it and can't find it in the archives. Anyway I would like to know how to reveal what libs a program uses or needs and once I find the libs know how to find the package the libs reside in. How do I do this? Thanks, kent you can get information about the dependencies on shared libraries with the ldd command. Type ldd executable. On my SuSE 5.3 system at work this yields: $ ldd /bin/ls libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000c000) As far programs go, you may be able to use dselect to resolve the dependencies for you. Otherwise dpkg is your friend. I don't have the exact options handy, since I only use Debian at home. Hope this helps at little bit. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
new ATI graphics boards
Hi everyone, I am thinking of upgrading my computer's graphics board to either one of the two new ATI cards: ATI Rage Magnum or ATI Rage Fury. I am not sure what the difference between these two cards is (my dealer didn't either) - except for the price. Now I am wondering if anyone has any experience with either one of these two boards? How do they perform under X11? Do they work at all? I could not find these cards listed in the compatibility lists at www.xfree86.org? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh, btw. the other day I complained about M-x brew-coffee not working in emacs :-) ... Thanks to all those who pointed me to the Coffee-mini-HOWTO. Has anyone actually build this? So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: kernel 2.2.5 symlinks
Hi Armin, those symlinks. But I've problems to compile some libraries. Someone told me, that this can be caused by different versions of installed includes or libraries, that don't fit together. the directories vs. symlinks are part of the Debian policy. There are no symlinks in order to keep the system headers stable. Check www.debian.org - I don't remember the exact URL. Maybe someone else could supply the URL or a location in a /usr/doc ? Must I delete the directories /usr/include/{arm,linux,scsi} and replace them with those symlinks? If you do need newer kernel header you can go ahead and save (rename) the directories and create the appropirate symbolic links. I've done this on my hamm system during the first kernel upgrade and have never expierienced an problems with software compiled prior to the change. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: your mail
Hi, Therefore I start Emacs routinely during login and use it for everything that involves editing. It is only a pity that I have up to now not been successfull to let Emacs mob my floor or wash my dishes. Yeah, and M-x brew-coffee doesn't work either :-) Anyhow, Emacs let's you achieve a very high degree of automtization of a lot of menial tasks like indenting, switching windows and typing latex ... repeatedly, ... ; in Emacs all it is required is C-c C-C RET. IMHO Emacs is an integrated development environment which let's you do your work a lot quicker than a number of other tools. Also you don't have to remember a lot of different (commandline) commands or have to think about how this program's GUI works opposed to that other one's GUI. There is also a wealth of additional modes out there which are not included in the distribution but make your life easier. Emacs is as lean or as bloated as you make it! (It even includes your shrink; try M-x doctor :-) So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Emacs-modes
Hi everyone, I am looking for a specific Emacs major mode (matlab-mode). I know there used to be an Elisp-archive - I just lost it´s address. Could a kind soul please help me out and post the address? Thanks a lot. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: [Re: TAR command question ]
Hi there, On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 07:22:57PM +1100, Jiri Baum wrote: Note that if you want to use this on a non-Debian system, some versions of tar don't take the z switch. In that case, compress or gzip separately. It's only GNU tar that supports the -z switch. On onther systems use: gzip -dc filename.tar.gz | tar -xvf - to unpack tar -cvf filename.tar ; gzip filename.tar to compress So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life is not fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: windowmakers .0.20 and dockit.
Hi Rod, On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:08:54PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: Hey All, Just got windowmaker 0.20.0 running and I noticed that dockit does seem to work. I tried to run it from Midnight Commander and it said it didn't exist although I can see it plain as day. it has become obsolete with the advent of the emulate appicon feature in the attributes menu. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Life isn't fair. But the root password helps. ***
Re: Chat scrpit trouble
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 09:35:34PM -0600, Kent West wrote: And the under-20 crowd says, What's a turntable? :) Gee, I am getting old - I still USE one of those things once in a while :-) -- Stephan Engelke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** I am the captain of this ship and I have my wife's permission to say so! **
Re: KDE 1.0.....
On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 01:16:09PM +, Rich Hartman wrote: Is KDE 1.0 available anywhere in *.deb format - does anyone know if debian is going to continue releasing KDE? I have the old KDE installed, and it's a little buggy - if debian is vetoing them, maybe I should think about switching to Gnome? But is that anywhere near ready for prime-time? Hi Rich, the best place to go looking for KDE .debs is at their site: ftp.kde.org. I've seen KDE .deb-packages in their ftp-area. It's also accessible via the web interface at www.kde.org. Usability depends on what you consider old. I am using a self compiled version 1.0. The only thing which bugs me about this 1.0-release is the documentaion. I a lot of cases all I got to read was something like: Currently there's no documentation avilable for this program. All in all, I think KDE's pretty usable, though. The last release I saw of GNOME (0.30 I think) was still too unstable to be considered seroiusly. Maybe you want to look at a regular windowmanager, rather than a desktop environment. Window Maker 0.20.3, for instance, is what I am currently using. Hope this helps. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
Re: ???current directory in prompt in bash???
Hi Rich, On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 08:38:00AM +, Rich Hartman wrote: Is there a way to have bash include the current directory in the prompt of bash? Actually, let me re-phrase that my root account DOES include the current directory in the the prompt, but I have no idea why or how... I've tried to copy my root's .bash_profile to my regular-user's .bash_profile, but it still doesn't work any ideas? something along the lines of export PS1=\\w \$ is your friend. the excape-sequence \w produces the current working directory if I am not mistaken. Check man bash for more details (search for PS1). Also, check root's .bashrc, most likely the prompt variable is defined here. on my Hamm-Systems .bashrc sources .bash_profile. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
Re: kernal building
Hi Arve, the final message is: make: wish: Command not found. You need to install the tk packages (possibly even the tk-dev one, too). So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
Re: iomega zip (scsi)
Hi Damir, I am running an external SCSI Zip on a NCR 53c810-Controller, using the 53c8xx-driver, too. I have NEVER experienced or heard about any problems with this setup - my to disks, DAT tape and CD-Rom are quite happy. I don't know what a Zipzoom adaptor is - so I cannot comment on that. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
was: Network-card unoprational
Hi everyone, first of all thanks for all the suggestions - I've got my problem narrowed down to a PnP-problem. I have the following cards installed in my system: 3C509 - PnP disabled, irq 15, iobase 0x210 (both supported by the card) SB AWE 32 PnP (everything but the IDE-interface enabled by isapnp IDE disabled with (ACT N)) Sedlbauer ISDN card PnP (enabled by isapnp) I am probably facing a hardware confilct between the 3Com card an the Souldblaster. The NIC has the tendency fo ferget its setting under Linux and to reset to irq 5 and iobase 0x300. Alternatively it might be conflicting with the IDE-interface of the AWE 32, which defaults to irq 15. It seems to me that none of the PnP cards really cares what isapnp tells them to do. None of the (potentially used) interrupts/iobase addresses are listed in /proc/interrups and /proc/iobase. How do I tell the Souldblaster NOT TO activate the IDE interface and thus free irq 15? (Is there anything to read on this subject (manuals/HOWTOs))? Thanks for thinking about this. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
VAIO notebooks
Hi there, is someone successfully running Debian on one of Sony's VAIO-series notebooks? I am thinking about getting one ... So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
Network-card unoprational
Hi everyone, after installing Debian 2.0 on my system I am facing the following problem: whenever I use a 2.1.x-Kernel the network-card driver module for my 3Com 3c509B (ISA, irq=15, iobase=0x210) will not load. The driver error message is a repeated device or resource busy. Whenever I use a self-compiled 2.0.x-kernel the card initializes and runs fine, but now X-windows will not start anymore ;-) I don't get any error messages in this case. Everything works fine with the default kernel that came with the system. I rather like (and need) the autofs feature and the vold-package. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
Network/X-windows trouble
Hi everyone, here's something strange I am chewing on right now: I am running a Debian 2.0 Hamm system. When using the Kernel 2.0.34-sources included in the distribution to create a custum kernel, I am not able to run X-Windows - the server simply quits without error message (at least without one I can see). Also isapnp produces a segmentation fault whenever it is run. When using sources for the Kernel release 2.1.125 obtained from the net to build a kernel isapnp seems to work just fine, X windows runs nicely, but whenever I try to load the driver module for my 3Com 509B-network card I get the message device or resorce busy. Mind you, this works fine under 2.0.34. Is there anybody out there who has any idea what might couse this? (I'll gladly supply further information if necessary.) Thanks in advance. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
Re: ISDN Sedlbauer speed card
Hi Martin, On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 11:13:19AM +0100, Martin Oldfield wrote: Does anyone know if the isdn support in either hamm or slink supports this beast ? the Sedlbauer cards are supported as part of the HiSAX-ISDN driver. It's part of the recent kernels. Check your kernel configuration, you need to include the ISDN subsystem and compile support for the protocol (probably Euro-ISDN) and for the card's chipset into the kernel. Just run make menuconfig and go to the section ISDN-subsystem. You are also going to need the isapnp tools, since the Sedlbauer cards are plug and pray cards (check the manpages for isapnp and pnpdump). So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Coffee not found: Operator halted ***
printing trouble - operation not supportet by device
Hi everyone, I am looking for help with the printing subsystem, or rather /dev/lp1 in general. FYI I'm running Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.1.123. I've got the follwing problem: whenever I try to print anything I get the following errormessage from lpq (print job started by root to avoid permission problems): Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Local Deskjet' Queue: 1 printable job Server: pid 282 active Unspooler: pid 283 active Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'Operation not supported by device', [ deleted ] When I try to cat /etc/profile /dev/lp1 I get the same error message: bash: /dev/lp1: Operation not supported by device. This also happens with kernel version 2.0.35. Does anyone have anyone have any idea what might cause this? I tried to compile the parallel printer support as a module and directly into the kernel. Both ways yielded the same results. I also disabled the parallel port IDE device support? Any hints are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ Divide by cucumber +++ Out of cheese error +++ Redo from start +++
German Umlauts on the console.
Hi everyone, my system keeps giving me keyboard related toubles. I am running Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.1.123. I am trying to get a German keyboard layout on the console. My keymap is de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map. The problem is: I cannot get German umlauts to display on the console. The curious thing is: I umlauts are displayed at the login prompt, but as soon as I log in, either as normal user or as root, the umlaut keys are not recognized anymore, no umlaut-characters are displayed, the cursor does not advance, furthermore the sharp-S-key displays the last command entered. I checked the Keyboard HOWTO but had no luck following its suggestions. Does anyone have any pointers for me? Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. So long, Stephan -- Stephan Engelke[EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ Divide by cucumber +++ Out of cheese error +++ Redo from start +++