Re: Games - A question
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:33:11AM +1100, John Griffiths babbled: > At 05:07 PM 11/29/01 +, Keith O'Connell wrote: > >OK, > > > >Whilst this is not a Debian question, as such, as Debian is the > >distribution with the purest philosophical roots, I thought I would try > >to get a discussion settled here. > > > >Assuming we are against non-free software and would not contaminate or > >machines with closed-source code, what is the panels view on games? > > > >I was talking to a friend about the Alpha Centari port by Loki, it is > >for payment binary only as I understand it. Is this an anathema because > >there is no source code? Could it be that it is sensible because a game > >is an end in itself, unlike an editor, compiler or browser which are > >tools that it is reasonable to want to modify? > > > >If the source code is there then in a multiplier game, how can you be > >sure that your opponent has not tilted his client to enhance his game > >play? > > > >We were just talking - What do people think? > > > >Keith > > Personally (not having any capacity to speak for the debian community) > I see Games as an artistic outlet, and an end unto itself that's quite > distinct from other software which I view as a means to an end. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Games are an artistic outlet defintly, but also atleast for the linux community a way for great entertainment. Also it shows alot of companys (atleast the idea is to show companys) That linux is good for many uses. As for the source code issue. Most games now a days, do not need to be modified through the source. They just need to be modified with an extra pak file or a bot client. No hacking the source, no modifing code. Just simple addons. Terry //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 x169 http://netlabs.net
Xscreensaver CPU Usage
I was wondering if anyone else uses the xmatrix xscreensaver, and has noticed a major increase in cpu usage at times when its running: This is from a top command 4196 keerf 18 10 1556 1556 1224 R N 88.0 0.1 0:58 xmatrix is 88% cpu normal for that? I'm running debian unstable 2.4.9-ac16 Thanks in advance Terry //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 x169 http://netlabs.net
Re: GeForce3 Card
Hey, Your going to want to upgrade to the newest X through debian. Then from there you need to download the latest nvidia drivers from www.nvidia.com. Or you can use the standard nv drivers from the latest version of X (but then you won't have 3d). The nvidia drivers from nvidia consist of a kernel modules, and a GLX package. Then you need to setup your XF86Config-4 file. If you need a sample one, mail me privatly, and I will send you mine. Hope this helps. Terry On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 03:47:03PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: > ehlo - > > I have a nVidia GeForce3 card on a newly installed 2.2.19pre17 > stable installation. I can't quite seem to get the X server running. > > Does anyone have any tips? I've tested different configurations thru > XF86Setup to no avail. > > Thank you! > > -#0 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 x169 http://netlabs.net
2.4.10, problems?
I was wondering if anyone was having problems with 2.4.10? On a UP machine or SMP machine. I'm kind of curious before I possiably upgrade (and if anyone is using ext3 with 2.4.10 if they are having problems too) This may be off topic so I apologize ahead of time. Thanks Terry //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 x169 http://netlabs.net
Re: openssh
The package for openssh is just ssh if you have the default potato lines in your sources.list just apt-get install ssh :) Hope that helps Terry On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 03:06:44PM -0600, Phil Reardon babbled: > What package holds the deb for openssh? Does anything need to go into > /etc/apt/sources.list to get this for potato? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 x169 http://netlabs.net
Re: ls colors
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:56:11PM -0500, Andrew D Dixon babbled: > Hi All, > anyone know how to change the colors that ls outputs? > > thanks, > Andy > > You can change the values I believe with: /usr/bin/dircolors not quite sure though Terry //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 x169 http://netlabs.net
Re: play - or other program to play waves...
apt-get install sox That will provide the play command :) Terry On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 07:58:16PM +0200, Jan Torben Heuer babbled: > Hi, > I'm looking for "play" (used by licq) anyone know which package could contain > it? Or any other program (should work with arts) > > thanx, > > Jan Torben > -- > /\ > | http://www.jtheuer.de (Elektronik, Perl, Linux)| > | mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > \/ > > VISIT: http://www.radiotux.de - Das Internetradio rund um Linux >http://www.kdevelop.org - Entwicklung unter KDE > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 http://netlabs.net
Re: startx - Fatal server error
I don't know if this will work, but in the config file you could try putting /dev/psaux instead of /dev/mouse Just a thought Terry On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:43:43PM -0500, George M. Butler babbled: > Hi all, > > I am sure this is an old one too. But I just installed Debian (potato) > r2. > I issue startx at the commnand line and get > > fatal sever error > Can't open mouse (no such file or directory ) > > > I have run xf86config 4 times now and each time I select 4, the PS/2 > mouse, > the 3 button emulation, and hit enter when for the default /dev/mouse. > > I looked in the file /etc/X11/xf86config > > and it shows under Pointing device > Protocol "PS/2" > Device "/dev/mouse" > > Any suggestions? > > PS. Thanks for all the suggestions on partitioning my hard drive. > I did the "Self" method. I can see that is > a little like one's religion. I think I learned a lot reading all the > suggestions and suggested reading. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 http://netlabs.net
Re: nvidia
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 04:39:44AM -0500, Matt Fair babbled: > Hello, > I just got a new computer from Dell. It came with Red Hat so the first > thing I did was uninstalled it and put Debian on it because it is so > much easier to manage. The problem I was having was to get XFree86 to > work with my nVidia GeForce2 GTS . > I downloaded the linux module for XFree86, but when I was loading X it > couldn't find the card. > Has anyone gotten this card to work in debian? > Thanks > Matt Just for my benefit, you do have X4 installed, and you did get the nvidia binarys right? Whats the full error msg, if you can send it to me I might be able to help a bit more. Terry //Terry Warner// [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Associate Internet Labs (732) 264-3111 http://netlabs.net
Re: /etc/rc.d/rc.local under Debian?
You can do two things (if I'm wrong someone smack me) You can either make a small bash script in /etc/init.d and then add it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh Or the easiest thing to do would be to add your lines into /etc/network/interfaces That file controls all of the networking IP's and such. Hopefully this helps Terry On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:30:28PM +0100, Gregor Kaleta babbled: > Please help! > > Which file I have to edit, so that the network becomes started on every boot > time automatically? > Under Debian 2.2rev2 ist no /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 or /etc/rc.d/rc.local which I > could edit (ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 ...). > > Gregor Kaleta > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-xfree86 (4.0.2-7) freezing during install
It might be helpful to go to http://dri.sourceforge.net. They have a resources page which has a generic X config file for the Rage card (and I believe it is an X4 config file). If you download that, it will prolly just need some minor changes, but its a good place to start. Hope this helps Terry On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 12:41:41PM -0800, Charles Lewis babbled: > Trying to install X on a brand new sid box. Selected > task-x-window-system-core (and all its dependencies > and it freezes at: > > Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.0.27)... > > I have a Rage 128 card...the non-free xserver-rage128 installs successfully, > except that I can't figure out how to generate XF86Config-4 since none of > the usual utilities seem to be present or have dependencies on > xserver-xfree86. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Charles Lewis > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 817-556-4720 > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sawfish
Sawfish by default, will just have the standard X background. If you middle mouse click or right click (I forget which) you should get a menu up. The other option is to edit your .xinitrc exec gnome-session that will start up gnome+sawfish. Or you can just keep it as sawfish and configure it with like I said the middle mouse button or right mouse button. Good Luck Terry On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 11:08:17AM -0600, Ben Pharr babbled: > -- Original Message -- > From: Aaron Brashears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:43:32 -0800 > > >On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:11:24PM -0600, Benjamin Pharr wrote: > >> I added Ximian Gnome to my testing box yesterday, but when I try to use > >> Sawfish as my window manager it justs sits there. It shows the "standard" > >> X background, but nothing else. There are no errors on the screen and > >> sawfish is listed in a "ps aux", but it's sleeping. Anyone else had this > >> problem? Thanks! > > > >What is in the ~/.xsession-errors or ~/.gnome-errors files? > > > There is no .gnome-errors and the .xsession-errors still contains errors from > my last successful session with WindowMaker. Nothing about Sawfish. > > Ben > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *.gz
Heya, You'll want to gunzip those files, check to make sure its installed (should be a standard install on all linux machines) gunzip README.gz Should work just fine, if its not installed apt-get install gzip Terry On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:32:41PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini babbled: > Hi! > > this is a very elemental question: how can I read a text file which is > gzipped? > Al documentation files are stored in this way... eg README.gz > > Thanks in advance for the help! > Marcelo > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Blaster Live config?
Have you tried using Creatives Emu drivers? You need to download them through cvs. If you haven't tried them .. mail me .. I can give you more info :) Terry On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 05:03:00PM -0500, Jonathan D. Proulx babbled: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get a Sound Blaster Live card setup on a 2.2r2 box, I > grabbed sndconfig from my unstable machine and it kind of worked... > > the sound is getting to the right place but in a very garbled state. > > Any sage advice? > > -Jon > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: **NVIDIA driver petition**
If I remember correctly when I was out there .. what prevents them from open sourcing it, is the OpenGL code they use in their drivers. Something with the OpenGL code, and something with SGI (If memory serves me right). I have a few good friends at nvidia .. and I know they are trying hard to make their drivers open source .. and to support the linux community better, its just gonna take some time. Terry On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 02:22:41PM -0500, Scott Patterson babbled: > I'm curious as what prevents them from "opening" up their source? Can you > please > expand on this... > > Until then, you can only hope that Nvidia further supports Linux driver > development. > > Scott > PS: I'd be willing to sign the petition as well:) > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: **NVIDIA driver petition**
Has anyone stopped to think that maybe nvidia can't open source their drivers? I know for a fact they can't because of certain things, that if anyone has paid attention to game boards or interviews, restrict them from open sourcing their code. I personally would love to see their 4.0 drivers released as open source, and I know they are trying to one day reach that goal, but for right now like I said. They can't open source them. Terry On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 05:12:04PM +, John Carline babbled: > Kristian Rink wrote: > > > > P.S.: On the other hand, people could make an organized initiative to > > > promote a petition to make NVidia aware of the Open Source movement > > > and ask thm for open drivers. > > > > I agree whole-heartedly with you on that, since even being quite happy with > > the performance of their TNT / GeForce stuff, this driver policy is close > > to being inacceptable to me, > > It's *totally* unacceptable to me. > > I'm in the process of shopping for a new AGP card and based on the > performance specs had decided to buy a GeForce2, either a GTS or a MX. After > evaluating their support for the Free Software Foundation and/or OpenSource > community, NVIDA has been dropped from consideration. > > I think I'll take another look at the Matrox G450. > > > and now after they 'acquired' the 3dfx company, probably things might as > > well be this way, soon, with the drivers for Voodoo(x) - chipset based > > display cards. Seeing the fact that most Debian users I know are > > considering the idea of OpenSource or even 'free software' according to > > Stallman's ideas an important thing, > > Make that the single *most* important thing. > > > I guess that this list would be a good place to at least get started this > > petition idea, to gather some folks which would be willing to sign and to > > continue this off-list, then... Please write me if you're also using an > > NVidia-chipset based card and if you also dislike their way of distributing > > device drivers and thus introducing proprietary pieces of software in a > > basically open operating system... > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > > Kristian Rink > > > > I'd be happy to have my name added to the petition, but it's already too late > for them to sell me a card. > > John > > -- > > Powered by the Penguin > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w problems
I have 4 machines running debian, 3 of them all have the same domain name (nuthouse.org) now one of them is the main www.nuthouse.org, and the other 2 are just hosts. On the nuthouse server when I ssh in from one of the other hosts, only the IP shows up in a w, yet it resolves fine in a nslookup. Then if I ssh into nuthouse from another box, the domain name of that box comes up fine. In case I am not making sense here: ÀÄ(~)> w 1:08pm up 10:40, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT keerftty1 -02:28am 44:36 0.15s 0.11s -su keerfpts/064.24.68.246 01:07pm 0.00s 0.04s 0.01s w -u Ä(~)> nslookup 64.24.68.246 Server: www.netlabs.net Address: 216.116.128.3 Name:straightjacket.nuthouse.org Address: 64.24.68.246 now thats all from the nuthouse server. I'm not running named, or bind or anything on it because my DNS is hosted through the ISP I work for. Could anyone offer some help or suggestions of what I might have done wrong or how I can fix it? Thanks for your time Terry
Re: nvidia + GL = X crash
Want to send me a log of the X crash? I want to see what might be causing it. Thanks Terry On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 08:27:40PM +0100, Bostjan Muller babbled: > * On 06-12-00 at 19:27 Terry Warner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > +Here quoted text begins+ > > I just want to make sure for my own benefit that you are using the nvidia > > glx stuff? as well as the nvidia kernel module correct? > > > > What may also be the case is you may want to check to see if some files are > > installed that need to be removed, basically: > > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a > > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a > > > > Make sure those two files arn't installed, and make sure you are using > > Nvidia's glx stuff > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Terry > > > +and here the quote ends+ > Yep I made sure I was using the correct libs... when I use the debian libs > openGL works, it's just really slow, but when I use nvdia GL libs the whole X > crashes. > > Bostjan > -- > Bo¹tjan Müller [NEONATUS], [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://surf.to/NEONATUS > ICQ #:7506644, For my PGP key finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >RSA id: 0x90178DBD, Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2+. >Cellular: +38641243189, Predjamska 4, 1000 Ljubljana > Student of Slovenian veterinary faculty, University of Ljubljana. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > //Terry Warner// :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Senior Technical Associate : http://netlabs.net Public PGP Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia + GL = X crash
I just want to make sure for my own benefit that you are using the nvidia glx stuff? as well as the nvidia kernel module correct? What may also be the case is you may want to check to see if some files are installed that need to be removed, basically: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a Make sure those two files arn't installed, and make sure you are using Nvidia's glx stuff Hope this helps Terry On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:15:41PM +0100, Bostjan Muller babbled: > Hi! > > I have tried to install nvidia geforce2 MX with debian woody, but have failed > ævery time.. the card works, but 3d acceleration is allmost worse than my ati > [EMAIL PROTECTED] in another machine... > I have set up everthing, replaced the GL libs, recompiled the GLUT, but I when > I run tuxracer it crashes my X every time, so does bzflag and every other GL > prog probably too :( > > Has anyone got any clue what can I do to get this thing working? > Is there anyone out there that actually has this working on debian gnu/linux > woody? > > THX in advance! > > Bostjan > -- > Bo¹tjan Müller [NEONATUS], [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://neonatus.net/~neonatus > For my PGP key finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RSA id: 0x90178DBD, ICQ #:7506644 > Celular: +386(0)41243189, Powered by Debian GNU/LiNUX , Student of VFUL > Press to test. *click* Release to detonate. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
