Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot
Hello John, You stated you were running Jessie/SID on an i7. Is it a Sandy-Bridge, Ivy-Bridge or Haswell i7? - Original Message - From: Erwan David Sent: 05/19/14 12:45 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot Le 18/05/2014 00:24, John Bleichert a écrit : Hello All, Running jessie/sid on an i7. Just installed todays updates which included an update from 3.13-1-amd64 to 3.14-1-amd64 and the new kernel does not boot, it just stalls at Booting the kernel (full console below). Any idea how to debug this? The previous 3.13 kernel boots just fine! Phew! Thanks, John --- Loading Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ... Loading initial ramdisk ... early console in decompress_kernel Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done. Booting the kernel. *stall* Same for me on a Dell PowerEdge R210 See bug 748574 that I opened. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5378e39b.3020...@rail.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140519101510.230...@gmx.com
Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot
Hello John, What version of i7 do you use? Sandy-Bridge? Ivy-Bridge? Haswell? - Original Message - From: John Bleichert Sent: 05/19/14 04:22 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot On 05/18/2014 12:45 PM, Erwan David wrote: Loading Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ... Loading initial ramdisk ... early console in decompress_kernel Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done. Booting the kernel. *stall* Same for me on a Dell PowerEdge R210 See bug 748574 that I opened. I subscribed to the bug, not sure if I did it correctly. Please feel free to email me off-list if I can help. I have a failsafe kernel installed/saved so I can test anything. JB -- --- John Bleichert - syb...@earthlink.net The heat from below can burn your eyes out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5379169d.1070...@earthlink.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140519102037.230...@gmx.com
Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot
Following your feedback, I upgraded the linux-image to 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64. I have no problems with booting, rebooting and shutting the PC down. My CPU is also Haswell, i7-4770K - Original Message - From: John Bleichert Sent: 05/19/14 09:02 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot On 05/19/2014 06:20 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: Hello John, What version of i7 do you use? Sandy-Bridge? Ivy-Bridge? Haswell? Haswell: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz -- --- John Bleichert - syb...@earthlink.net The heat from below can burn your eyes out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537a00d4.60...@earthlink.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140519131629.77...@gmx.com
Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Doug Sent: 05/18/14 10:36 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails Is it possible to remotely install some kind of software onto the BIOS chip? That's what it would seem to require, short of having physical access to the machine. Yes, the Americans, together with the Israelis, managed to slip Stuxnet on to the BIOS chip and crippled the computers that ran the Iranian nuclear facility. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518151344.77...@gmx.com
Re: Security updates for hold package
- Original Message - From: Andrei POPESCU Sent: 05/17/14 05:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Security updates for hold package You haven't yet stated why you need the backports kernel, but if you want to keep using it install the backports meta-package. I HAD to install kernel backport as I had been having issues with shutdown on Debian Wheezy 3.2.0.4-amd64 and Gnome3. Google results revealed there are similar problems when one is using Intel Haswell CPUs with Debian Wheezy stable. After upgrading to a kernel backport, I am able to do a proper shutdown. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518151849.77...@gmx.com
Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Weaver Sent: 05/17/14 03:30 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails That's exactly what it is. Just trying to keep the girl safe, as she leaves journalist school and heads out into the wild world of investigative journalism, which is where she wants to go. Cheers! Weaver. Weaver, if you're genuinely sincere about helping the female journalist wannabe, you could write to Glen Greenwald or his partner David Miranda. Glen Greenwald is THE investigative journalist entrusted by Edward Snowden to reveal the truths behind the evil surveillance machinery maintained by the NSA and GCHQ. Both Glen and David ARE residing in Brazil. They are in the best position to help your female friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517102708.268...@gmx.com
Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Richard Hector Sent: 05/17/14 05:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: Greetings all, Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't got the slightest idea of how to go about it. Any father figures up for a free gig? FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment. Richard I totally agree with you, Richard, on this. Moreover I have just discovered, after googling, that Tails provides free technical support via a mailing list. Weaver should have posted a request for help on behalf of the investigative journalist wannabe to that mailing list. It's the most appropriate thing to do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517103002.268...@gmx.com
Re: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives
- Original Message -
From: Eike Lantzsch
Sent: 05/17/14 07:52 PM
To: Debian-user
Subject: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives
On the contacts for the heads and also on the washer-shaped
contacts for the srews I found a brownish-reddish film.
I removed it with a white soft eraser.
After assembling the drives they work OK ever since.
Now I bought two 2GB Seagate NAS drives and on one I found the same
film on the contacts - just not as bad as on the drives which failed.
Are you an anti-American, anti-NSA activist? Or, are you one of those
blacklisted by the FBI or CIA?{just kidding}
According to Edward Snowden, US intel agencies are known to have intercepted
routers, hard disk drives, solid state drives, graphic cards, CPUs, etc..,
meant for delivery to customers and insert backdoors in them.
The brownish-reddish film could have been the result of some hardware
modifications made by the NSA to the hard disk drives.
BTW Seagate is known to have worked closely with US intel agencies so much so
that China, at one point, insisted that Seagate MUST manufacture HDDs in that
country and not elsewhere if Seagate wanted to sell its products to Chinese.
This is to facilitate easy inspection of HDDs for backdoors by China's own
intel agencies.
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Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Joel Rees Sent: 05/17/14 07:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails Maybe the tail mailing list would be more appropriate, but the problem is finding people in Brazil who would be willing to do a free service gig by dd-ing an image of (debian-derived) tail onto a USB for the journalist and introducing her to an appropriate local user group. A debian user group would probably be easier to find than a tail user group. There ARE two guys in Brazil who are able to help her: Glenn Greenwald and his partner David Miranda. The former is one of the select few entrusted by Edward Snowden with the NSA files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518012510.268...@gmx.com
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
- Original Message - From: Martin Vegter Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie Hello, I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? Do you find Jessie to be stable? For the first time ever, I started running Jessie on my host computer, not as a server. And just last week of some upgrades, Gnome3 broke in many places. Do you have the same problem? Or you are not using Gnome3? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518011747.308...@gmx.com
Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Brian Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails The adjectives describing journalist are completely irrelevant; what purpose do they serve? Advertising for a sugar daddy on this list is a first. :). I agree with you, Brian. The post by Weaver certainly seems like an advertisement put up by a pimp :) BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140516231248.268...@gmx.com
Re: Security updates for hold package
- Original Message - From: Andrei POPESCU Sent: 05/15/14 04:50 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Security updates for hold package Assumptions: 1. You did not change the default priority for backports How does one change default priority for backports? What will happen if I change the default priority? 2. You installed the linux-image-version-flavor package from backports and *not* the corresponding meta-package linux-image-flavour. Yes, I installed the linux-image-version-flavor package from backports. What is a meta-package? Is it necessary to install it? If your linux-image-flavour is from backports such changes will not be picked up automatically. What should I do to ensure that backported linux-image-flavor pick up such changes? Hope this helps, Your detailed explanation helped me a lot in understanding how Debian works. Thanks for your effort and time :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140515233540.323...@gmx.com
Re: Security updates for hold package
What happens if I am using Debian current stable but my linux-image is 3.12 (wheezy-backports)? - Original Message - From: Andrei POPESCU Sent: 05/14/14 05:35 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Security updates for hold package However, if you're on stable (or oldstable) there will be no major upgrades (whether you want them or not) unless you point your sources to the next release. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140514195909.278...@gmx.com
Re: reboot required after linux-image upgrade?
I have experienced what you described in your reply. That is why I always issue the command sudo update-grub after a linux-image upgrade. I can't trust the OS to be perfect. - Original Message - From: The Wanderer Sent: 05/14/14 07:44 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: reboot required after linux-image upgrade? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 They do appear to, but in my experience, not uncommonly when running a dist-upgrade that includes a linux-image* upgrade something will get messed up about the order of events; the script will get run at the wrong time, and then not get re-run later when it needs to. The result, which I've seen frequently, is that the new kernel shows up in the GRUB boot menu, but the GRUB boot entry does not include the matching initrd - and as a result, that kernel will not boot. If I reboot into the previous kernel, in most - possibly all - all cases the needed initrd does already exist under /boot. If I then run 'update-grub' by hand and reboot again, the boot entry then properly mentions the initrd and booting that kernel works properly. I don't know what package(s) this would be a bug in, since AFAIK it seems to be caused by the order in which various packages get processed during the dist-upgrade process, not by issues in e.g. the scripts of any particular package; I also don't have a means of intentionally reproducing the problem, much less doing so on demand. That's why I've never reported a bug about this, but I've definitely seen it in at least a large fraction of kernel-image upgrades in the past. (It may or may not be relevant that I frequently don't reboot right away after installing an updated kernel image, and in fact may install multiple such updates before I finally reboot. My typical uptime in between reboots is at least a month and a half, probably at least two or three months, but I dist-upgrade to testing at least once every two or three weeks.) - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTc1ckAAoJEASpNY00KDJry9QP/0L41cWFy6ikczFhaRopXGNt wArZaDn3yAGCYZ/UsJvzRSufmamXkL+nvds0M8IAPqyF6PFvEapZ6swO+K6EEHqQ Tmmh206AaGrjnFvRQxcXRTWLqi2mABvLKgPC2o4lROLAyJgyq1Y+AOihh3GOHZYh gDUK2gxqn8eUBhnN/d2VWMPZ38xUGH3KLhWhWKFqSZrpVO2gXuvzcvhvj2J38Vat E9lkeREVpyGN/AgAA38D+QWyoC49GEuV3z/Laen9iuohXQjRdPgyzOgalTaGunkf SOSRN2vo7R3XjDKoT9RUn4hZ+jDmRsTgau3C8nxhvn1tWfgKwNLHLSpxju8zf1Ax 5t+zbzIIrgsKC19JxZHUFfmDpm92NPFK9BAPZyb/e6TA95fN1fg2VP86Aijj050X tD2WX5ATo8UY5yd9voaLA4DuZt+EnQegaGVDeOlnI2WjOCuIZn8eis9JzMiOnr8P BkWuGTs8Sr3Z1s6iJSTMlsvUypt4SwkWlIMUN02kFa+QadRKBxUSzoUvl3bBPNQn BPw5qWwYBImLZTvQ+Qxc3OTyKIh2bqSFqK0oIGwcdxEVCj6GJ+XtdP4SQSjt2Scp 5c+YeAJ5NxT9D6m1BNP+8NWM5HHqaRUgSkVuwqN4U8tcOSaUT0O8U+MjlMEQaKOu 2M5T9/PKPioIpqFwKLuC =PVp+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53735724.9030...@fastmail.fm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140514200528.278...@gmx.com
Re: reboot required after linux-image upgrade?
Before you reboot, do you need to issue the command sudo update-grub ?? - Original Message - From: staticsafe Sent: 05/14/14 02:39 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: reboot required after linux-image upgrade? On 5/13/2014 05:51, ML mail wrote: Hi, I just upgraded my debian wheezy linux-image from 3.2.54 to 3.2.57 using apt-get update/upgrade and was wondering if I need to reboot my system or not in order for Linux to use the new kernel? Cheers Yes, you need to reboot. -- staticsafe https://asininetech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537266df.4050...@staticsafe.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140514004011.48...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Frank McCormick Sent: 05/08/14 09:00 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? Journalist Glenn Greenwald and open-internet activist Alexis Ohanian go head up against American civil liberties lawyer Allan Dershowitz and former NSA and CIA chief Michael Hayden in a Munk Debate over the surveillance state. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/munk-debate-on-surveillance-glenn-greenwald-michael-hayden-trade-barbs-1.2612746 Thanks for the link. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508061047.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Stephen Allen Sent: 05/08/14 08:37 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? They have too much to do even that - you gotta keep up to date on recent news my friend. That's the problem with mass surveillance of the world, too much data to analyze in real time. Didn't the USA and Europe want to move up the economic value chain? Isn't the US experiencing low and anaemic growth in jobs? and some countries in Europe have high rates of youth unemployment? The US and European goverments could re-engineer, re-model jobs so that more and more youths could be employed to analyze big data collected under the mass surveillance programme. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140508061855.54...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Joel Rees Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? But this particular thread is not serving the interests of debian users. Old news. Most of it incorrectly reported. I differ. I do not for once believe Debian OS is free of bugs and bad coding. The recent Heartbleed vulnerability is one case in point. Curiously enough, the NSA also claimed that the news concerning Nils Torvalds was incorrectly reported. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507194414.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Jerry Stuckle Sent: 05/07/14 11:09 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? And their HQ are less than 10 miles from me. In fact, I'll be right over that way Thursday. Jerry Hello Jerry, If you are going to drop by at the NSA, please let them know that I am interested in getting a job as a cyber spook with them. Heck, I can even work for them for free. I just wish to learn how to spy and do mass surveillance on Americans and the world. Please tell them that I am a very keen and fast learner and am willing to help install backdoors in any and every software, including Debian. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507195253.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: John Hasler Sent: 05/06/14 09:11 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? Produce specifics. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA Didn't you know that all NSA contractors, including ex-employee Edward Snowden, are obliged to take the oath of secrecy with regards to their work? How can I produce specifics even if I wish to? I don't wish to receive an indictment from the FISA court. Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code (a.k.a. backdoors) in his Linux OS? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140506195411.140...@gmx.com
Re: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: A Debian User Sent: 05/06/14 09:42 AM To: filip, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? So, have you removed it completely from your system, or did you just disable it? How does it break functionality on your end? I removed it completely from my system. I don't care whether doing so breaks functionality as long as the US spooks' backdoors are out of my system. I will do the same when Debian Jessie becomes official stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140506195617.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: A Debian User Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad networks? With NSA, nothing is unintentional. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140506195727.210...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Stephen Allen Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how much data Snowden took or how. LMAO Yes, they do know. It's just that mere mortals like us, especially foreigners, are not privy to USA's secret intelligence. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507020412.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Doug Sent: 05/07/14 09:57 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? They don't try to analyze it all. They look for keywords--like bomb, shoot, jihad, and who knows what others. Then they just analyze texts that include them (emails, social sites like Facebook, etc., phone calls--I wonder if they can crack fax traffic?--probably!) (I guarantee this email will be analyzed!) No doubt. The Guardian and The Washington Post don't call it mass surveillance for nothing. As for fax traffic, of course, it's crackable. Did you know that diplomats working in overseas missions NEVER, EVER send confidential or secret documents via fax? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507020654.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Patrick Wiseman Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM To: Debian User Lists Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? Will you people please take this crap off-list? Patrick Patrick, which parts of the topic make you uncomfortable? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507020922.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: John Hasler Sent: 05/07/14 04:25 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? Version, file name, line number. BTW do you know the meaning of the word libel? As I wrote earlier, NSA contractors are sworn to secrecy about the flaws and backdoors of any OS. Who is suing who for libel? You might wish to read the following articles: U.S. Contractors Scale Up Search for Heartbleed-Like Flaws http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-02/us-contractors-scale-up-search-for-heartbleed-like-flaws.html FBI Keeps Internet Flaws Secret to Defend Against Hackers http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-30/fbi-keeps-internet-flaws-secret-to-defend-against-hackers.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507021651.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: Paul E Condon Sent: 05/07/14 06:09 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? I think this claim about Linus Torvalds is apocryphal I hate to prove you wrong. Linus' father, Nils Torvalds, is a Member of the European Parliament. Why would an MEP like Nils lie to the public when asked about whether the NSA had approached his son to install backdoors? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507022500.140...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
- Original Message - From: filip Sent: 05/05/14 02:08 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? It's not safe from spying eyes. If you run a tool like bleachbit, you may think that you have deleted all your history, but at first sight the version shipped by Debian doesn't delete the Zeitgeist database. All software, proprietary and free open-source, is not safe from the NSA. It seems that some folks at Debian have introduced NSA-friendly software to spy on users. Thanks to the OP for bringing it up to our attention. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140506004923.227...@gmx.com
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Is this thing safe? How does uninstalling it break functionality? P.S. This package is also recommended by software-center. Safe from what? from whom? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140505011814.209...@gmx.com
[drm] nouveau: Init table command not found
During the boot up process of Debian 7, about 3 to 4 lines appear on the black
screen:
{string of numbers} [drm] nouveau {a string of alphanumeric characters} : Init
table command not found {string of numbers}
Is there any fix for the above?
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Re: Mobile Broadband with Btooth
- Original Message - From: Gábor Hársfalvi Sent: 04/26/14 05:30 PM To: Joe Subject: Re: Mobile Broadband with Btooth But when I try connecting - network manager always disconnect. And I found in the logs: modem-manager: Got failure code 3: Operation not allowed and Error connecting with bluez: Port already in use Where does Network Manager keep its logs? What is the full path? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140426113709.290...@gmx.com
Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
There is nothing for you to do; you have achieved your objective and updated your sources.list. The bug appears to be fixed in Jessie. OMG, far from it, I have yet to achieve my objective, which is to install essential packages such as xorg, gnome-core or gnome-full off the USB flash/thumb drive without the need to access the internet. Certainly, I did learn something useful from you, such as apt-cdrom, dmesg and the mount point of a USB stick. I have some questions: 1. When will the next Debian version (codename: Jessie) be released? 2. I read on the internet that there is long-term support (LTS) being planned for Wheezy. If such is the case, do you not agree that the bug mentioned in my original post should be fixed in Wheezy too? Moreover between now and the official release date of Jessie is a period of more than 10 months. I understand that Debian 7.5 is being planned for release in early May. I would strongly recommend that Debian developers issue a fix for the bug before then. 3. Who shall I contact to ask Debian developers/maintainers to issue a fix for the bug for Wheezy? Are you one of them? Could you escalate the issue on my behalf? I happened to google for a solution to the bug today and it appears that on AskUbuntu's forum, many users also encounter the same bug. So it isn't just Debian users; Ubuntu users are affected too. I really appreciate your help all this while. P.S.: If you are one of the developers/maintainers, it would be good if you could help us (users) out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423134653.25...@gmx.com
Re: grub2 menu problems
What are the specifications of your hardware? - CPU (brand and model) - chipset (brand and model) - RAM (brand, model and capacity) - hard disk drive (brand, model and capacity) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423135137.25...@gmx.com
Re: UEFI install
Corey wrote: I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe and use strictly Debian. If you don't mind me asking: what is the brand and model of your new laptop? Before wiping your hard disk drive, did you save a copy of the boot installation software provided by your laptop vendor/manufacturer? May I ask why you prefer to do a UEFI install versus a normal install (with regards to Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy)? I confirm that the latest release of Debian Wheezy, a.k.a. 7.4, supports UEFI install. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423140034.25...@gmx.com
Re: UEFI install
- Original Message - From: Corey Blair Sent: 04/23/14 10:11 PM To: Steve McIntyre Subject: Re: UEFI install I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to make a bootable USB flash drive from it. I changed UEFI boot to legacy mode and booted off the UEFI USB. This is the first time I heard one could create a UEFI USB installer using Unetbootin. How did you manage to do it? The installer runs fine, but I have trouble loading the components from cd-rom, so I execute a shell and mount /dev/sdb /cdrom, which used to work but now it's failing with invalid argument. At which point did you have trouble loading components from cd-rom? during the installation process? or.? but now I am having difficulties with even loading the components off USB. Did you mean that you could not complete the whole installation process? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423185251.25...@gmx.com
Re: UEFI install
- Original Message - From: Steve McIntyre Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM To: Corey Blair Subject: Re: UEFI install Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot of problem reports we're seeing these days. It's totally unnecessary unetbootin will not start the installer in the right way, and AFAIK won't do the right things with UEFI either. Well, I have to disagree with you. I have been using Unetbootin for the past two years to burn Linux distros such as Debian (Squeeze and Wheezy), Ubuntu (from versions 12 to 13) and Linux Mint on to a USB flash/thumb drive and then using it to install on to my hard disk drive without even a single problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423185758.25...@gmx.com
Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
- Original Message - From: Richard Owlett Sent: 04/24/14 12:49 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ I'm working towards a similar goal. My restrictions include: 1. not only minimal internet , but absolutely *NO* networking at all 2. not only installing a few specified packages, but allow installing *any* package from the distro 3. automating the install with an appropriate preseed.cfg Well, I hate to be the harbinger of bad news. It appears there is a bug in apt-cdrom that prevents one from installing packages -post-installation- from the USB stick without the need to access the internet. According to people in the know, the bug is said to have been fixed in Debian Jessie. And if the post referenced by http://news.softpedia.com/news/Debian-8-0-quot-Jessie-quot-Should-Arrive-by-the-End-of-2015-391154.shtml is any indication, the official release date of Debian Jessie is end 2015 (a wait of about 20 months.) If you know the APT package's developers, you could petition them to issue a bug fix before the release of Debian 7.5, which is planned for early May 2014. See my thread titled Copying complete SET of installation DVDs to a USB stick beginning at https://lists.debian.org/53494721.3090...@cloud85.net for what I've accomplished so far and hints as to how some problems will be addressed. With reference to your post at https://lists.debian.org/53494721.3090...@cloud85.net, if you still encounter problems and I think they aren't OS-specific, may I suggest that you make a post at http://unix.stackexchange.com/ There are many experts in that forum. Regards. Theodore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423191410.25...@gmx.com
Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
- Original Message - From: Brian Sent: 04/24/14 03:03 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ I am not a developer or a maintainer; the only thing I am intent on is to maintain my sanity. Thanks for the joke. It lightens my day ;) You will have to submit any bug report yourself. Thanks, I will file a bug report. If Richard Owlett reads this post, I hope he will do too. Whether it is ever fixed in Wheezy is doubtful. Oh dear, oh dear! My and Richard's hope is dashed :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423192202.25...@gmx.com
Re: Re: grub2 menu problems
- Original Message - From: Muntasim Ul Haque Sent: 04/24/14 12:43 AM To: mailingl...@darac.org.uk Subject: Re: Re: grub2 menu problems I'm using Debian Wheezy and grub2 is default here. And I do not have Windows Vista installed. It's just as I told you, grub2 detected Windows 8 as Windows Vista. Other than the problem of grub2 failing to detect Windows 8 properly, you are able to boot into Windows 8, is that correct? If yes, I would leave it at that if I were you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423192552.292...@gmx.com
Re: UEFI install
Corey, If you don't like to use unetbootin, you could try one of the following: 1. pendrivelinux (url: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/) 2. rufus (url: http://rufus.akeo.ie/) Both are free and open-source and they don't need to be installed on Windows. Which version of Windows are you using? and in what language? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140423210510.255...@gmx.com
Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
I don't use apt-cdrom. I loop mount images of the DVDs. It may or may not meet your total needs. I hope to have a detailed write up in about a week. I'm using Squeeze (6.0.5) and Wheezy (7.1) as test beds. Best of luck on your endeavor and if you need someone to debug, you can always find experts on Unix and Linux by clicking the following link: http://unix.stackexchange.com/ Please keep me informed of when you finish your project. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140424022554.203...@gmx.com
Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
Hello Brian
You are right.
According to /etc/fstab, /dev/sdb1 has a mount point /media/usb0
However I had to mount it first: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
and then followed by the command: sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add
And the error message is always the same, viz:
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0
signatures
W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or the
wrong architecture
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Re: Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
It should say 'Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0', then tell you it
is unmounting the CD-ROM and ask for a disc to be inserted.
No. I confirm that the line indeed states 'Using CD-ROM mount point
/media/cdrom' and not './media/usb0' {I reinstalled Debian just to make
sure that what I wrote in the original post was correct.)
/dev/sr0 is where one of those round, shiny discs would be located. This
is not ok.
I agree. It's weird. I have not, at any point in time, used a DVD to install
Debian.
I won't insult you by asking whether it is a Debian disc for the right
architecture. (It is, isn't it :) )
As I stated in my original post, the only medium used to install Debian is a
USB 2.0 flash/thumb drive. No DVD was used during the installation.
Do 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 ident'. Is the correct mount point
used? Is there a value for 'Stored label'? This value is what you have
to put in the 'deb cdrom' line in sources.list if the following command
doesn't work.
sudo apt-cdrom --no-auto-detect -d /media/usb0 add
'--no-auto-detect' is undocumented in Wheezy.
I took up on your suggestions and below is the feedback:
After typing the command 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 ident' the response was:
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0/
Mounting CD-ROM
Identifying{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Stored label: Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
20140208-13:47
Unmounting CD-ROM...
Following the above response, I issued another command 'sudo apt-cdrom
--no-auto-detect -d /media/usb0 add' and the reply from the OS was as shown
below:
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/usb0/
Unmounting CD-ROM
Waiting for disc..
Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter
The USB flash/thumb drive had all the while been in the USB port. All I did was
to press 'Enter' and below was the response:
Mounting CD-ROM
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files..
Found 2 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 2 translation indexes and 0
signatures
This disc is called Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD
Binary-1 20140208-13:47
Reading Package Indexes.Done
Writing new source list
Source list entries for this disc are: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0
_Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140208-13:47]/ wheezy contrib main
Unmounting CD-ROM
Repeat this process for the rest of the CDs in your set
Seeing that the OS was able to detect that my USB stick contains the Debian
installer, I re-issued the command 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/usb0 add' and
pressed 'Enter'. The error message is the same, viz.:
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0
signatures
W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or the
wrong architecture
What shall I do now, please? Is this a bug in the 'apt' package?
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Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
I installed Debian 7 using a USB flash drive burned from the first DVD ISO of
the Debian installation CD/DVD.
I did a very minimal install without Debian desktop environment, Print server
and Standard system utilities.
After installation and a reboot, I was presented with a console with the words
Debian GNU/Linux 7 hostname tty1. I supplied the login username and password.
After I typed the command sudo apt-get install xorg, an error message popped up
stating:
Media changed: please insert the disk labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_
- Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140208-13:47' in the drive and press Enter
I inserted the same USB flash drive into the same slot and after waiting for a
few seconds, I pressed Enter.
The same error message popped up.
I have tried the following steps on the advice of some of my colleagues:
1. remove/delete all the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and reboot the
computer
2. dmesg shows that the USB thumb drive is mounted on /dev/sdb1
3. sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
4. sudo apt-cdrom -m -d /media/usb0 add
After doing the above, the following error message appears:
[quote]
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/
Identifying...{a long string of alphanumeric characters}
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0
signatures
W: Failed to mount '/dev/sr0' to '/media/cdrom/'
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian disc or the
wrong architecture
[end quote]
I prefer to install Xorg (60MB) and gnome-core (400MB) from the DVD disc. The
NGO that I am working with is in a developing country with a very basic
internet access infrastructure. Internet access is very patchy and the average
download speed is less than 2 Mbps.
A solution will be much appreciated.
Regards.
Theodore
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