Re: euro symbol and debian sid
On Thursday, 20. September 2001 00:27, tim wrote: I cant figure out how to get full euro support in X and console. I am already using -15 fonts and locale.gen is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15. After generating the locales I changed my config to... /etc/environment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/console/config: SCREEN_FONT=lat0-16 This gave me a working euro sign on console. Another story is X. I use KDE, so I installed ISO-8859-15 fonts and told KDE to use them. Now KDE apps can display the euro sign. But I can't type one. Exception are non KDE apps like xterm. If I tell KDE to apply the appearance settings to non KDE apps, everything works as it should in my xterm. Conclusion: I can't really help you with X, KDE and the euro sign. Thomas
Re: Fonts in KDE2.2
On Saturday, 15. September 2001 12:09, Julio Merino wrote: Hi all, I've installed KDE2.2 on sid. The first time I run it, it apperes the setup wizard, and everything looks fine. But when I restart it, I get very weird fonts. I go to the control center to change them, but I only get three fonts: bitstream charter, courier and another one I don't remember now. Instead, if I run xfontsel, I see all my fonts properly installed. I have, basically the 75dpi, 100dpi and msttcore fonts. What's happening? Why they are changed automatically? Thanks. What charset do you use in your personal settings? I think KDE's fontselector only offers fonts matching your charset. If you use something other than ISO-8859-1 your fonts might not support that. In sid are extra packages with 75 and 100dpi fonts for other charsets. On the other hand the msttcorefonts should support most charsets. Thomas
Re: DNS problems
Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 20:26 schrieben Sie: Doing that I just found out that everything works while I'm online and my ISPs nameserver is reachable. Looks like the nameserver is queried before /etc/hosts. But why? Check /etc/host.conf it should contain order hosts,bind multi on It contains exactly this. This is why I can't understand the whole thing an have to ask on the list. See also my original post for my config files. Thomas
Re: DNS problems
Am Freitag, 14. September 2001 14:52 schrieb Donald R. Spoon: Try defining the local domain in your /etc/resolv.conf file, i.e.: domain domain.de --I included the quotes here to clarify things. search domain.de--Probably not needed if the above is defined # ISP nameserver nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Tried both variants. With and without search Both don't work. If these are real names instead of just examples, I would suggest using something else other than domain.de...to avoid any possiblility of confusion for Linux...i.e. test.lan. The word domain is a command line word in /etc/resolv.conf. is probably reserved for that use. The names domain.de and hostname were just examples. I use real names. Just thought it wasn't necessary to post them. I use a dialup connection and I found out that connections are fast while I'm connected and my ISP's nameserver is reachable. So the nameserver seems to be queried before the hosts file. But the config files say the opposite. Confusing. Thomas
DNS problems
Hello! All connections to my machine are delayed. telnet localhost takes 20 secs to connect and another 20 secs to display the login. telnet 127.0.0.1 connects immidiately, but also needs 20 secs to display a login. Seems like some dns-lookup-problem to me. But I can't see anything wrong in my config. It's a dialup machine running a woody install. Manual lookups with host give the following: $ host 127.0.0.1 Name: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 $ host localhost Nameserver not responding localhost.domain.de A record not found, try again $ host 192.168.2.15 Name: hostname.domain.de Address: 192.168.2.15 Aliases: hostname $ host hostname Nameserver not responding hostname.domain.de A record not found, try again Any ideas, someone? The config files are included below. TIA, Thomas Apel - /etc/hosts - 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.2.15hostname.domain.de hostname - /etc/host.conf - order hosts,bind multi on - /etc/resolv.conf - search domain.de # ISP nameserver nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - /etc/nsswitch.conf - passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis -
Re: DNS problems
Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 17:36 schrieb Ralf G. R. Bergs: I could imagine that this has something to do with the auth/ident daemon looping. The original poster should have a look at their syslog file, if they see something like identd disabled due to looping. There is nothing line identd ... in my logs. Looks like there was no identd installed. So I just installed the pidentd package. Doing that I just found out that everything works while I'm online and my ISPs nameserver is reachable. Looks like the nameserver is queried before /etc/hosts. But why? Thomas
XEmacs C/Java mode configuration
When I write C/Java Code in XEmacs the braces are always indented like this: if (x) { x = 0; } But I want it to look like this: if (x) { x = 0; } How can I change this? I think I searched the whole options menu but didn't find anything. Are there any docs where I could have read about this? BTW, how can I indent a selected area? Is there something like block indent? TIA, Thomas
dos2unix?
I always thought there was a package called dos2unix to convert dos text files to unix text files. But I can't find it anywhere. Is there such a package somewhere out there? And if yes, what's its name? TIA, Thomas
.../movemail registered but not installed
What does the following message mean and what can I do against it? --- Subject: Output of Anacron job `cron.daily' Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:51:27 +0200 From: root (Anacron) To: root File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not installed --- I replaced emacs19 with emacs20 a few days ago which is also when these messages started. I guess emacs19 somehow wasn't removed properly. But where is movemail registered and how can I unregister it? TIA, Thomas
Re: German Umlauts on the console.
Stephan Engelke wrote: Hi everyone, my system keeps giving me keyboard related toubles. I am running Debian 2.0 with Kernel 2.1.123. I am trying to get a German keyboard layout on the console. My keymap is de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map. The problem is: I cannot get German umlauts to display on the console. The curious thing is: I umlauts are displayed at the login prompt, but as soon as I log in, either as normal user or as root, the umlaut keys are not recognized anymore, no umlaut-characters are displayed, the cursor does not advance, furthermore the sharp-S-key displays the last command entered. I checked the Keyboard HOWTO but had no luck following its suggestions. Does anyone have any pointers for me? I think export LANG=de_DE fixed this for me. Place it in your ~./bashrc, ~./bash_profile or whatever is appropriate for you. I think there is also a manpage or HOWTO somewhere about this but I can't find out at the moment. FYI, my ~/.bashrc also contains export LC_MESSAGES=C and export LC_TIME=C because I like messages and the time format to be english. Hope this helps, Thomas
jdk: Can't find class...
The problem is the following: $ java HelloWorld.class Can't find class HelloWorld.class As far as I understand the java_wrapper script even ./ should be in the CLASSPATH. But why doesn't this work then? When I make the .class executable and add the binfmt_java module to the kernel I can execute it. And I think java ...class worked before I first used the binfmt_java module, but I'm not sure about that. Any clues what's wrong here? TIA, Thomas
Re: jdk: Can't find class...
Thomas Apel wrote: The problem is the following: $ java HelloWorld.class Of course I should have typed java HelloWorld without .class! Sorry, I guess I should go to bed now. Thomas
Re: wmppp and ISDN
Torsten Hilbrich wrote: As announced, I looked into the source and made a first patch. Due its shortness I will append it to this posting. If anybody who is using the program too could test this patch, I could send it to the maintainer for possible inclusion. Since a few days I'm working on about the same thing. Until now I got the commandline accept ippp interfaces, got the load graph working, and also the online detection works sort of, but is far from what I dream of. As this is my first experience in linux programming I will have to check the manuals before I can create a patch. I think this will happen RSN. Until then I will add some comments to your patch... --- wmppp.c.origSun Sep 27 22:32:53 1998 +++ wmppp.c Sun Sep 27 22:33:02 1998 @@ -310,10 +310,6 @@ usage(); exit(1); } - if (strncmp(argv[i+1], ppp, 3)) { Change this line to the following and leave it in the source: if (strncmp(argv[i+1], ppp, 3) strncmp(argv[i+1], ippp, 4)) { - usage(); - exit(1); - } active_interface = argv[i+1]; i++; break; [rest of patch] Without looking at the source again I guess the rest dealt with the online detection. I rewrote the funtion stillonline to check /dev/isdninfo if it's a ippp interface. Unfortunately this will not work in all cases. See my posting Wie prüfen ob ippp0 online ist? and the replies on de.alt.comm.isdn4linux. I copied the function get_statistics without changes from wmifs to get the graph drawing work. Hope this helps 'til I have a real patch ready. BTW, used versions are wmppp-1.3.0 and wmifs-1.3b from http://windowmaker.mezaway.org. Thomas P.S. Torsten, as you can guess from my adress private mail replies in german are welcome.
Re: Sendmail Problems
John Forest wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 1998 at 08:33:42AM +0530, Saisanthosh B wrote: How do I prevent Sendmail (8.8.8) from doing a DNS lookup when sending an e-mail. The Sendmail FAQ states that : With version 8.8, you change the service switch file to omit DNS and use only NIS, files, and other map types as appropriate. I tried omitting DNS in hosts of /etc/nsswitch.conf, but this does not seem to work. Temporarily, I have commented out the DNS lookup in sendmail.cf file. Am I doing the right thing my commenting the DNS lookup in cf file or is there any other solution for this (apart from recompiling sendmail source by undefining NAMED_BIND) The /etc/nsswitch.conf does work. [...] I had the problem that sendmail used /etc/service.switch as default service switch. I forced it to use /etc/nsswitch.conf with the following entry in sendmail.mc: define(`confSERVICE_SWITCH_FILE', `/etc/nsswitch.conf')dnl Hope this helps, Thomas
Which package contains xpm.h?
The subject says it all. I try to compile wmppp-1.3.0 which needs xpm.h and I don't know where to find it. Can anyone tell me the right package. BTW, is there a method to find a currently not installed package containing a certain file? TIA, Thomas
Re: Which package contains xpm.h?
Eric Jacoboni wrote: Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The subject says it all. I try to compile wmppp-1.3.0 which needs xpm.h and I don't know where to find it. FYI : wmifs supersedes wmppp... Hmm!? I thought they are different apps. wmppp does the ppp monitoring and some other ppp specific stuff while wmifs does the general interface monitoring, I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong. The reason why I want to play with the sources is that both (in version 1.1) don't work properly with my isdn ippp interface. Is there anybody who also uses these apps with isdn? Thomas P.S. Thanks for your replies, Eric and Ole.
Re: anonymous ftp
Eric Jensen wrote: I've been having some problems getting anonymous ftp to work properly on my system. I've set up most everything in the way that the manpage for in.ftpd told me too, but it refers to a program pw_mkdb which I can't seem to find anywhere. In any case, I don't believe that the lack of a pw.db file in my /home/ftp/etc directory is the cause of my troubles. I haven't been able to get ls to work properly. Whenever I ftp to my computer and try to list the contents of the directory, nothing shows up in the list. The stuff is definitely there and readable, cause I can download it, I just can't get the listing to work. I do have ls in the /home/ftp/bin directory and it is executable by all. Can anyone help? You also need the following libs in /home/ftp/ls: maggie:~# ll /home/ftp/lib/ total 802 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 164094 Jul 4 20:53 ld-2.0.7.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Aug 30 21:09 ld-linux.so.2 - ld-2.0.7.so -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 650904 Jul 4 20:53 libc-2.0.7.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Aug 30 21:09 libc.so.6 - libc-2.0.7.so ldd /bin/ls shows you the used libs BTW. Thomas
list mirrored to newsgroup?
Is anybody out there who reads this list via newsgroup? If yes what´s the name of the group? I wondered about this as my ISP has a linux.debian.user group on his server but this group is empty while linux.debian.devel works well. I asked my ISP about this and they told me that nobody uses this list when it´s empty. After that I searched dejanews and hoped to find a full group to show them but they don´t have linux.debian.user. There only is muc.lists.debian.user and several other linux.debian.* groups. So how does the whole thing work? Right now I´m a bit confused. Is there a mirror or not and where is it? Thomas
Re: list mirrored to newsgroup?
George Bonser wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Thomas Apel wrote: I wondered about this as my ISP has a linux.debian.user group on his server but this group is empty while linux.debian.devel works well. I asked my ISP about this and they told me that nobody uses this list when it´s empty. lunux.debian.user is the proper name. They probably do not have a feed of the group. It is not widely distributed. I get it and I can get it to your ISP if they want it. Thank you, I just wrote them that there are people who read this via news and that it is a ~100 msg. per day list. As linux.debian.devel on their server is fed it shouldn´t be a real problem for them to also feed the user group. Thomas
dbf2mysql misses libmysqlclient.so.3
When I try to execute dbf2mysql it says: dbf2mysql: can't load library 'libmysqlclient.so.3' In /usr/lib/ are the following file and symlink: /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.3.21.31 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.4 - libmysqlclient.so.3.21.31 As it is a 3.x lib I created a link libmysqlclient.so.3 pointing to the lib but this only caused segfaults. Installed versions are: mysql-base 3.21.31-1 mysql database client binaries mysql-doc 3.21.31-1 mysql database documentation mysql-manual0.95-1-1 MySQL Manual in HTML format mysql-server3.21.31-1 mysql database server dbf2mysql 1.10b-2xBASE -- mySQL They are from a late hamm beta cd. But as the versions in stable seem to be the same I don´t think this is the problem. Any hints how to fix this? TIA, Thomas
Re: [meder@isr.uni-stuttgart.de: What's left to do for Hamm ?]
* the press release: Nils Lohner manages press releases, Jay Treacy manages the website. Is there a prototype for the press release available ? I was going to use Brian White's Beta announcement as a prototype and work from there. I'll post one beginning of next week. Just curious: Will there be any international translations of the press release to be sent to computer magazines for example? -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 90B40401 (RSA) and 5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Size of ttfonts in Netscape?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just playing with this a little more I think this si a bug in netscape... It apears that Netscape does not handle the truetype fonts well You can go into prefs and fix it...but...if you exit netscape and come back in it does not remember the font size that you used. I didn't notice that I can use the text entry box although the check box is greyed out. But as you said it does not remember the settings. And yes I'm using Communicator 4.04. I would recomend not using truetype fixed with fonts with netscape :( Well, I already do so again. :-( As you mentioned the new mozilla: Can I change the size with it permantly and how usable is it overall? Thanks for your efforts, Thomas -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 90B40401 (RSA) and 5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Size of ttfonts in Netscape?
I installed xfstt from slink installed some fonts and it works. But when I chose them in the Netscape preferences I can't set the size anymore. The dropdown boxes are greyed out. What's the reason for this and how can I change this? I really need to the monospace font (I use courier new) down, because it's far too big. Text in this font (e.g. all emails) doesn't fit in a normal sized window. TIA, Thomas -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 90B40401 (RSA) and 5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Repeated messages?
Evan Van Dyke wrote: Is it just me, or am I getting messages from two or three days ago again? It's not just you. I just deleted about 120 old messages. What's going on here? -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 90B40401 (RSA) and 5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!
Mark Harrison wrote: [...] There is a debian policy. I cant remeber the details but it says something like if you advertise then you agree to pay $1999 per advertismentand if you contact us we might discount this rate for relavent advertising. So, should someone send them the bill? AFAIK this only affects spam send directly to the list. But as it seems someone sends it directly to (at least some of) the members of this list. Just for the record: I also got this beanie-baby-thing twice the last month. But not from AOL. The first was from msn.com and the second from fuse.net. But as Somnolent already said I'm not 100% sure if this is somehow related to this list. -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 90B40401 (RSA) and 5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: How to read a word 7 file?
Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote: Hi, folks. Is there any way to read in my linux box a word 7 .doc file? Mantaining the indents and bolds would be a plus, but mainly I just need to read the text in it. I use StarOffice to read docs, but it only reads up to word 6 files :^ Was SO definitely not able to read the file? I'm not sure but as I remember Word 6.0 and 7.0 use the same file format. The version with the new format is 8.0. -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 0x90B40401 (RSA) and 0x5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
system does not recognize 64 MB RAM
I know this is not a debian problem but maybe someone has an idea: Today I replaced the 32 MB SDRAM chip in my computer with a 64 MB SDRAM chip but the system - starting with the BIOS! - only recognizes 32 MB. I tried all of the three DIMM banks, had a look at the BIOS options but all without success. I also checked for BIOS updates that might be known to fix this but nothing. The board is an Elitegroup P5TX-A with Intel TX chipset. The 64 MB RAM chip works well in another computer. Any ideas how to get things working? TIA, Thomas -- Thomas Apel [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key IDs: 0x90B40401 (RSA) and 0x5B980B91 (DH/DSS) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fat 32 and Linux.
Will Lowe wrote: Hate to answer a question with a question, but: that will allow Windows 95 to read the Linux partition and it works great. Where did you get this, and can I get a copy from the same place? I don't have any URL but the name is FSDEXT2. It provides read only access. I got it as FSDEXT2.ZIP. So a FTP-Search might help. - Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Design of Debian web site
Hi! Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Would you people shift this thread to debian-www? I am sorry for starting this thread on the wrong list. I did not notice that there is a www related list. So please send replies to debian-www. Concerning the topic I think the most important thing about the Debian www site is its content. Besides this it should be fast-loading and easy to use with any browser. But I also think that a good design is a nice thing AND possible without loosing the above attributes. Good design does not necessarily mean frames, tons of graphics or java animations. Who is interested in what I think of might have a look at: http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~thomas.apel/debian/index.html Although this is a pretty simple page compared to many other sites I could even imagine a more simple page without tables. Thomas - For all on debian-www I inlude the original message: Hi! The last times I visited the Debian web site I had to realize that it is not very impressing concerning design and structure. Especially in design the sites of FreeBSD, The GNOME Project, KDE, Red Hat, etc. have a lot more to offer. Of course web page design is not the most important thing about Debian but as the web site is in most cases the first contact with Debian I consider it important to have a professional, serious looking appearance. Moreover I think the strucure could be improved. I think 16 items in the main menu are too many and most of them would fit in a top level category. To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. The navigation bar should contain a maximum of about 6 top level categories like About, News, Support, Development... each with its second level categories. The text column could contain a brief description of what Debian is, the latest news article or other related stuff. And to make it perfect one could add a nice banner containing the logo and the text Debian GNU/Linux. All other pages could contain a smaller version of the banner and a navigation bar on the top with only the top level categories. The whole thing could be colored in white / red / dark blue like the logo. What do you think about this? I would be happy to hear your opinions. If there is enough positive feedback I can create a rough prototype of what I think of. Bye, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gated?????????
Hi! Florian Attenberger schrieb: I have 2 computer connected by ethernet. One is connected to the inernet by isdn. What do i have to do, to get an internet connection on the other one. (I think the one with connection should forward the packets, that come from the other one) I thought about gated, but I dont know, how to configure it. Thanks a lot, bye florian attenberger I assume you have just one IP. Then you can use IP-Masquerade. There is a mini-howto describing how it works and how to set it up. IIRC to get the basics work you only have to load some modules modprobe ip_masq_ftp modprobe ip_masq_raudio modprobe ip_masq_irc modprobe ip_masq_cuseeme modprobe ip_masq_vdoline and adjust it like this: ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 ^^ 192.168.1.0 is the adress of the localnet. So you might have to replace it with yours. 24 means class c network. See the howto for the values of the other network classes if needed. Hope it helps, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Design of Debian web site
Hi! The last times I visited the Debian web site I had to realize that it is not very impressing concerning design and structure. Especially in design the sites of FreeBSD, The GNOME Project, KDE, Red Hat, etc. have a lot more to offer. Of course web page design is not the most important thing about Debian but as the web site is in most cases the first contact with Debian I consider it important to have a professional, serious looking appearance. Moreover I think the strucure could be improved. I think 16 items in the main menu are too many and most of them would fit in a top level category. To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. The navigation bar should contain a maximum of about 6 top level categories like About, News, Support, Development... each with its second level categories. The text column could contain a brief description of what Debian is, the latest news article or other related stuff. And to make it perfect one could add a nice banner containing the logo and the text Debian GNU/Linux. All other pages could contain a smaller version of the banner and a navigation bar on the top with only the top level categories. The whole thing could be colored in white / red / dark blue like the logo. What do you think about this? I would be happy to hear your opinions. If there is enough positive feedback I can create a rough prototype of what I think of. Bye, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Smail/Sendmail Question
Hi! Manoj Srivastava schrieb: Hi, mfrattola == mfrattola [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mfrattola Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't this rewrite 'From' for every mfrattola message, and not only for those 'going out' of his LAN? mfrattola Also, doesn't confDELIVERY_MODE=queue queue all messages mfrattola and wait for runq to make the delivery? Umm, I think not. let me see. __ From root Sun Mar 8 02:19:33 1998 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by tiamat.datasync.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id CAA09080 for root; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:16:07 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:16:07 -0600 From: root root Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: root Subject: mirror update of Debian X-Filter: mailagent [version 3.0 PL58] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ See? No rewrite for local mail. Yes, but this message remained on the localhost, right? So I am not sure if I can assume that the header looks similar for a message sent between two hosts on the local net. Unfortunately I had no time to simply try it out yet. Can anyone comment on this? Thanks, Thomas -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Are 120 MB diskspace enough?
Hi all! I'm going to set up a server for some network-experiments. The machine shall run a mail and database-server and perhaps a web-server. For the possible hardware I'm offered a 486 DX2/66, 16 MB RAM, 120 MB HDD. Now the question is: Are 120 MB disk-space sufficient? I have my doubts about this. But as this will be my first linux-machine I'm not sure. Again, it will only be used for above mentioned purposes. No GUI or any other apps like StarOffice or Netscape are required. The served network are only two other machines. And I expect the stored data to be less than 20 MB. What size are the needed components? I hope someone can help me with his opinion! Thanks, Thomas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .