[ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Thomas Good
Hi All,

Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala [Debian Users]
to use for sorting... ???

Thanks!

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Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Thomas Good
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Marc Wilson wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
  Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala [Debian Users]
  to use for sorting... ???

 Because it's (a) intrusive, (b) annoying, and (c) not necessary.  Here's a

I don't want to start a holy war...
But Intrusive ? - that may be slightly melodramatic.

The subject prefix is widely used by sites running majordomo.
One example is PostgreSQL.  I've been on several lists there for
years and never heard anyone complain about the [SQL] subject
prefix (or any other.)  Odd.

TMTOWTDI, I suppose.

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Re: Subject Prefix - Procmail Hacks

2002-06-24 Thread Thomas Good
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

  The subject prefix is widely used by sites running majordomo.
  One example is PostgreSQL.  I've been on several lists there for
  years and never heard anyone complain about the [SQL] subject
  prefix (or any other.)  Odd.

 Until you find that you don't need it. Then you'll start wondering why
 it was on there in the first place.

But supposing I like it...is there a procmail hack to prepend to the
subject header?  I could do it in perl but if procmail can do it,
why reinvent the wheel?  (I'd rather be sipping a pint... ;-)

On a tangent: I personally don't much like the spam assassin thing
of storing spam on my hard disk.  Is there a procmail hack to bounce
the crud back to its rightful owners?

I'm sick of Vortex, Vertex or whatever that purveyor of laser toner is
called this week.  I bounce most of the nonsense using sendmail's
access hash table but when this guy changes his address his junk mail
winds up in the spam assassin dust bin, whereas I'd really rather bounce
it back.  To me, this is something to get excited about.  ;-)
(I dunno about you but I feel compelled to examine the contents of
spam assassin's trash bin - morbid curiousity?)

 The first mailing lists I joined were the debian mailing lists. Since
 then I've found other mailing lists that *do* the [prefix]-thingie. And
 *that* I find annoying, as the X-Mailing-List: header sorts things out
 quite nicely.

 I would not be surprised if there are tweaks available to Majordomo to
 fix its behaviour...

This is not a default behaviour.  It is an option set in the *individual*
list config file.  So it's really up to the admin.

 Perhaps it has to do with the (alleged) vast majority of mail clients
 out there are decidedly unfriendly when it comes to choosing which
 headers to display and use for sorting/filing... smallPersonally I
 don't care for that and use procmail.../small

I'm willing to have a go with procmail - presently I'm using Paul
Johnson's little filter to move my debian mail to ~/mail/debian.
Not what I wanted but better than before!

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Re: SCSI parity errors

2002-06-18 Thread Thomas Good
On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Sebastiaan wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a problem with my SCSI harddisk/controller which occurs more often
 lately. The errors have the form:

 (scsi0:A:1:0): parity error detected in Data-in phase. SEQADDR(0x7c) 
 SCSIRATE(0x88)

 and are repeatedly printed in the system logs, until the partitions are
 mounted read-only.


 Usually I have to turn off the computer, press on the SCSI-card (I still
 have the idea that the card is literally broken, but unsure if this is the

Hallo Sebastiaan,

If pressing on the card is helpful why not clean the contacts with a
pencil eraser?  I've done this cheap trick before.  Maybe when you press
on the card it scrapes the contacts enough to get a good connection for
awhile???  Maybe try a diff PCI slot?

 Could this be due by:
 - an aging harddisk (less than 5 years old, Quantum Viking II),

You could use SCSI-Select (press CTRL-A when the card's vendor
string pops up on the screen) to verify the media.  This won't hurt
your data.  (Don't format the disk tho...)

I check my Atlas II occasionally...

 - incorrect connection hardware (parity on or off, termination etc. I am
 pretty sure it is ok, and it is the only device on the bus)
 - the card IS broken
 - something else?


 I use kernel 2.4.18 with the new aic7xxx driver for Adaptec 2940 card.

This is an ultra wide card (2940UW) yes?
I use the same card with a Quantum Atlas II (XP32275W) with no problems.
(Wide SCSI [ non LVD ] connector going to the hdd)

 Thanks in advance,
 Sebastiaan

Good luck!  (Tot straks!)

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Re: inserting carriage return characters

2002-06-01 Thread Thomas Good
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:

 
 On 01-Jun-2002 Paul E Condon wrote:
  What is a simple way to insert a carriage return character just before
  each line feed (new line) character in a text file?
  
 
 in other words, make it look like a Windows text file?  The sysutils package
 has two utilities -- 'fromdos' which removes ^M and 'todos' which adds them.

or in vi do a search and replace:  g:/$/s//^M/g
to produce the ctrl char:  ctrl-v, ctrl-m

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Re: inserting carriage return characters

2002-06-01 Thread Thomas Good
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:20:49AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
 
  as I have learned in life, sometimes morality takes a back seat to paying 
  rent.
  It hurts, you fight it, and the strong leave it behind.  But sometimes, you 
  do
  what you have to in order to survive.
 
 True enough.  Though my wage requirement for a Windows shop is twice
 what I ask for unix shops.  You want me to geek in my nausea zone?  Pay
 for the anguish, that's all I ask.

This is what I do for code too.  If someone wants a database app (perl/cgi)
that will not be opensourced (like a mortgage broker, whatever) I charge
double.

I have a question that really irritates me (both my own stupidity and
the problem itself):

If I get a shell script from someone and go to run it, sometimes it
returns 'bad interpreter' due to a trailing ^M after the shebang line.
No problem to lose this interloper but I want to know why elvis will 
not display control chars!  If I run vi (elvis) with no args and then
load the file using :r filename the characters are displayed.  But if
I pass the name of the file as an arg (vi filename) the characters are
not displayed!  And the set command (or whatever) that forces vi to
print them eludes me.  Anyone know how to do this???

Cheers

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Re: Multiple files

2002-05-31 Thread Thomas Good
On 31 May 2002, Daniel D Jones wrote:

 How does one handle multiple files via most command line utilities?  For
 example, suppose you have a handful of perl scripts (*.pl) and you want
 to save them in the same directory with a different extension.  The
 command
 
 cp *.pl *.bak

#!/bin/sh
ls *.pl  sources
for file in `cat sources`
do 
cp $file $file.bak
done
rm sources

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Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraphflows in mozilla?])

2002-05-27 Thread Thomas Good
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:

 Oh, that's nothing.  You should see what the Yanks do to folks they 
 really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').  
 You wanna talk about bitter?  South Carolina's unofficial state motto 
 is 'WE didn't surrender'

Ian, 

I've heard it said on this list that Canucks and Aussies have inferiority
complexes.  I think we Yanks do too.  Being upstarts (+- 200 years makes
us adolescents in the history of humankind) we are a bit sensitive about
self image.  We actually have a lot in common with our Australian cousins.
And Canadians too.  The average Yank is a good guy who doesn't trust
the government, works hard and behaves decently towards his neighbors.
But our behaviour as a nation is still young and foolish - maybe if 
our elected officials served their country rather than their wallets
we would mature as nation, at a faster pace.   I think the lacking
leadership is a serious issue here...greed (and avarice) don't make for
stability - either internally or in the community of nations.

I've come to regard (former President) Jimmy Carter as a sort of Yank
version of Gandhi.  He works hard to help people in need (Habitat for 
Humanity), uses his influence for the common good (trying to normalise 
relations with Castro), is a humble guy and occasionally has lust in 
his heart...he he.  I hope he inspires future leaders as we could sure 
use a steadier hand at the helm.

Cheers

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Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraphflows in mozilla?])

2002-05-26 Thread Thomas Good
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:

 On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 
   home and abroad.  And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
   to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest. 
  
    You aren't talking about Kent State are you?
 
 I think that's where it was, I couldn't remember the name.  It wasn't
 taught in school, strangely enough.  I heard about it elsewhere.

It occurred in May 1970.  In 1974 I attended a protest/remembrance
there (I am an Ohioan) and heard Jane Fonda, Daniel Ellsberg, Julian
Bond, et al., speak.  It was declared a sacred site, etc.  A few 
years later the bloodsoaked ground was ploughed so a new gymnasium
could be built.  The administration was unconcerned with the protests
about this insensitive behaviour.  This sort of thing is not taught
in American schools perhaps because it is seemingly at odds with our
democratic principles.  The less polished side of US history is covered
well by Howard Zinn (Peoples History of the United States - used at
several universities) and a great book called: 'The 60s Without Apology.'

By the way gents, there was no helicopter involved at Kent State.
The guardsmen believed (or so it was said later) they had been issued
blanks.  The orders were to fire into the ground (makes more noise).
Obviously they missed...four dead in O-Hi-O is how Crosby, Stills
and Nash put it.  A painful chapter in the history of the US Armed
Forces.

Now there was a similar event (same time frame) that occurred at
Jackson State in Mississippi.  Maybe a helo was involved there?

Cheers (very much enjoying this thread although it isn't work related!)

Baloo - should you stop by New York City pop in.  We'll have a pint 
and maybe a glass of decent whisky (if any is left by that time!)
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Re: OT: debian-beer and Scots Whisky

2002-05-25 Thread Thomas Good
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:

 There's just not a lot you can do with an American standard or a lager
 beer to make it better.  Canadians just manage to do a little better
 than Americans do at both, though.  But then again, there's very little
 that Canada doesn't do better than the US...

Roger that.  Sleemans (Ont/Quebec) is a respectable brew with an amber
to it.  It's not Newcastle (UK) but will do in a pinch. ;-)  I compare 
Sleemans to Lagavulin (a single malt of the Islay variety) and Newcastle to
the superior Talisker (Isle of Skye), the best scots whisky, period.

If you fancy Weizen (from Bayern) Erdinger is not bad.  Here in the States
we are now seeing Bitburger (a superior Northern German pils) pop up in all
the stores.  It is not bad for a pale beer.  And surprisingly, it tastes
the same here as it does in any bar in Berlin.

But returning to your cental point: you are correct that most of my 
countrymen regard Budweiser (or Bud Light - unbelievable) as beer.
This is obviously absurd.  It is more akin to near beer - an alcohol free
pale yellow organic suspension whose sole purpose seems to be its
function as a diuretic.  Perhaps it was spawned from the same mentality
that produced such wonders as naugahyde and fake leather (leatherette?)
jackets.  In fact I easily envision a bar full of vinyl clad patrons
sipping Bud light...perhaps I read this somewhere...Dante?

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