Re: Slow bash script
On Sunday 09 September 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:35:12PM -0400, Marty wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 04:23:42PM -0400, Marty wrote: The following script seems to run abnormally slow on a 400Mhz Sarge system, getting only about one iteration per second in the while loop. It extracts md5sums from a 180k Packages file and makes an indices file. I've narrowed down the slowdown to the lines in the while loop starting with search=... how have you determined this? I checked the output rate by outputing to stdout (instead of piping to gzip after the done statement). I also timed it with the time command. but, That only tells you how long it takes to iterate through the loop to get to the gzip command, not how much time is spent in each statement. smth like: while read inputline doecho input line is $inputline search=`grep...` echo search is $search if... echo we got a good search fi ... done how about ``set -x'' and let the shell do it for you ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Firefox and Time Zones
On Wednesday 08 August 2007, Andrew J. Barr wrote: On 8/8/07, Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am suffering from a frustrating issue with Iceweasel (2.0.0.6, Debian unstable amd64). I have a LiveJournal, and the post form has date and time fields on it. These are automatically filled in with the current date and time, using JavaScript. Problem is, Firefox thinks the time is four hours later than it really is (basically it's displaying time in UTC). Visiting a JavaScript tutorial page that displays the date and time has confirmed this is not an LJ-specific bug. My time zone is currently EDT -0400. Right now, the local time is 5:24 PM (17:24). But according to Firefox, it is 9:24 PM (21:24). The 'date' command displays the correct time and time zone, and so does the clock applet in gnome-panel. False alarm folks. The problem was with 32-bit Iceweasel in a chroot, where the time zone was not correctly configured. Oh dear, are people *still* using those ? Let me give you a hint: sid has nspluginwrapper (flash works well in 64bit IceWeasels with it) and various ia32-* packages. Qt isn't packaged in them, but Skype and Opera come in statically linked archives as well. The java plugin is trickier though; luckily Konqueror supports using 64-bit Java without Netscape plugins. Java Web Start... well, there is an ia32-sun-java-foo-like package, which should work, but I've never ever seen Java WS in reality. -- Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key http://hackerkey.com/: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: format grep ouput
On Sun, 2007-07-15 at 14:29 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/15/07 13:40, BartlebyScrivener wrote: I'm playing with recursive grep. Still fairly new to Etch. When I grep text files and get a dozen or so results, they print to the screen as a dense block of text. I found the color option, which helps, but is there a way to separate each result with a blank line, or highlight the file name or something? I know some Python if I have to pipe it to a Python script. But I'm thinking there's some easy pipe I could using just bash and Linux commands, as this must be a common probelm. Any piping will eliminate the color. That's what happens, at least, with ls. ls --color=auto (usually ls is an alias for this) doesn't output colour when not printing to a TTY to make processing easier and behave like everyone has expected for decades. Pipes and colours don't theoretically conflict. [ron, sorry for the first msg] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Why apache do not respct charset on web page ?
On Wednesday 04 July 2007, Vladimir Strycek wrote: In www page is meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=windows-1250 That tag is information for the *browser* on how to *de*code the page... You could try to set apache up to send a Content-Type header, and omit the meta tag. I doubt that would change anything though. I also think it's possible that you need a capital W. Are you sure you want to use an old windows code page in the internet at all ? I think UTF-8 is a better choice, and Wikipedia agrees with me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1250 -- Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key http://hackerkey.com/: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch
Hi, On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: Is there any simple way of making kernel 2.4 and 2.6 coexist in Debian Etch? I know a lot of complicated ways :) but I need version 2.4 to test old kernel modules. I suggest that if you want to use old kernel-level software, you use an adequately old OS, e.g. sarge. (as Kumar indirectly pointed out, http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#s-incompatible-2.4 looks like this is actually as good as impossible) -- Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key http://hackerkey.com/: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?
On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn client since I can access the web with a web-browser. Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why don't you install a svn client? I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html And help didn't help: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html [guessing] GSSAPI authentication error — are http-proxy-username and http-proxy-password correctly set ? -- Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key http://hackerkey.com/: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: No Internet, but Email
On Friday 29 June 2007, TW wrote: Hi, Maybe it's just my day. I'm trying to get onto the internet but I can't. I do netstat and see that I'm receiving packets. I'm able to get on email (obviously). Did I mess something up? It happened after I did the chkrootkit command. I don't think this is on the IP's end. Anyone know what I messed up? Thanks. ~Telly No Internet, but Email is contradictory. Email is useless without internet. You're probably referring to the World Wide Web, not the internet as a whole. /rant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4 with debian etch?
On Thursday 28 June 2007, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi. Is it possible, and how?, to install the kernel 2.4 with Etch? It seems that I don't manage to install it typing `linux24' at boot from CDROM. Linux 2.4 is not part of etch. In other news, linux 2.4 is ancient and linux 2.6 works well ;-) -- Regards, Thomas Jollans GPG key: 0xF421434B may be found on various keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu Hacker key http://hackerkey.com/: v4sw6+8Yhw4/5ln3pr5Ock2ma2u7Lw2Nl7Di2e2t3/4TMb6HOPTen5/6g5OPa1XsMr9p-7/-6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: I can't find this network cable!
Noland Oakley wrote: Please help, I have been looking everywhere online but I cannot find a wireless network cable, where can I locate one? This joke works on your mom (TM), not us. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH through another computer
Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: I am forced to SSH to host1, and SSH from there to host2. How can I do this in a single command? I have a private key in localhost, which is accepted for SSH by host2. How can I use this key in host2 without storing it in host1? ssh -t host1 ssh host2 the key thing is probably impossible. use a seperate key for host1-host2. PS: sorry for sending directly Masatran... hit the wrong reply button. Also, listen to Florian Kulzer, sounds like he knows the stuff way better than me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which software to copy and edit video from MiniDV camcorder
Urs Thuermann wrote: I want to copy video recordings from my MiniDV camcorder to a Linux machine, edit it, convert it to MPEG2, and burn it to DVD. What software is available in Debian for these tasks. I have read something about kino, installed it, but it seems to be quite instable. copy: dvgrab edit: cinelerra -DVD: mencoder, transcode, dvdauthor. Gentoo forums have a nice howto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix-ify File Names
Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
Since I frequently receive files from Microsoft Windows users, is there any
utility to unix-ify file names, that is, use lower case exclusively, use
hyphen as separator, etc.?
I wrote this little zsh script once; it unixifies all file names in the
current and sub directories. This may or may not work in other shells (I
believe bash is quite feature-rich as well, but I don't use it)
#!/bin/zsh
FS=
for f in **/*
do
#required for files in the current dir.
f=./$f
#dir of file
fp1=${f%/*}/
#name of file
fp2=${f##*/}
#dir should already be anti-spaced and lower-cased
f=$fp1:gs/\ /_/:l$fp2
#the new name; anti-spaced and lower-cased
f2=$f:gs/\ /_/:l
if ! [[ $f = $f2 ]]
then
mv -v $f $f2
fi
done
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Re: Unix-ify File Names
Frank Terbeck wrote:
Thomas Jollans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...]
zsh, yay! :-)
Just a few remarks.
#!/bin/zsh
FS=
IFS, I suppose. But: Why do you set it?
ugh... good question. I wrote this ages ago ;-)
for f in **/*
for i in ./**/* # make f=./$f unneeded below.
do
#required for files in the current dir.
f=./$f
#dir of file
fp1=${f%/*}/
fp1={$f:h}# (think (h)ead)
#name of file
fp2=${f##*/}
fp2=${f:t}# (think (t)ail)
#dir should already be anti-spaced and lower-cased
f=$fp1:gs/\ /_/:l$fp2
#the new name; anti-spaced and lower-cased
f2=$f:gs/\ /_/:l
if ! [[ $f = $f2 ]]
then
mv -v $f $f2
fi
done
Of course, your expansions do work (and they are portable, as they
work in every POSIX shell), but if you use zsh already, why not ':t'
and ':h', as they are easier to read, IMHO. :-)
Recursive globbing is just a wonderful feature, isn't it? :-)
definitely.
Thanks for the comments :-)
Thomas
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Re: network problem on a dell machine
William Xu wrote: The problem is that i'm unable to connect to the internet directly(execpt for google, weird..). ping, dns, traceroute, netstate all look fine. this paragraph is self-contradictory; Are your problems limited to the world wide web ? If so, have you tried using a different web browser ? Thomas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Copying files to a windows XP partition (mtools?)
On Sunday 25 March 2007 21:25, Wackojacko wrote: If you dont have/cant make a vfat partition there is another option. There is a windows driver for ext2 (1) (assuming that's what you use) which enables you to copy from linux to windows when in windows. This can also be used with ext3 partitions, the journal of which it will ignore. Thomas pgpCrYRMyLP1N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
On Saturday 24 March 2007 23:35, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: icedove is debianised version of Mozilla Thunderbird (the same software, but different name due to licensing issues). so I'd say MANY people use it. Only to be mathematically rigorous: not only the name, but some of the artwork, is different. The artwork is, actually, so important that were the Thunderbird artwork free IceDove would not exist. The actual *code*, however, is essentially the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird apache2 issue
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 09:44, Justin Hartman wrote: Hi all In setting up apache 2.2.3 with virtual hosts I have experienced something very strange which has never happened before. name-based or IP-based virtual hosts ? I have configured a vhost namely foo.com.conf with the path to the doc root as /var/www/foo.com when i go to http://www.foo.com it works and serves the pages from /var/www/foo.com however when i go to http://foo.com it no longer serves the pages from the doc root but rather reverts back to the default site and serves pages from /var/www/apache2-default Does anyone have any idea why using www. would serve pages from the correct location but ommitting the www. serves them from the default apache2 location? they're two different hosts names. If you are using name-based vhosts, try adding a serveralias (IIRC). Thomas Jollans pgp7pKq2eLot0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spam originating from this list !
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 11:07, Joe Hart wrote: Best thing to do with Spam is to ignore it (or eat it if you like canned meat). or feed it to spamassassin or something else that helps you ignore it. spammers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where the spam goes. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: host aliases
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 03:44, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:58:57 +0100 Thomas Jollans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007 14:48, Celejar wrote: I don't, in general, know the IP address. I have a system on my LAN, ^ if it's on your LAN, why can't you just give a static internal IP address ? If a DHCP server supplies certain dynamic information (name servers and such), maybe it can be configured to map a MAC to an IP or something ? I do indeed have my router / dhcp server configured to assign a specific IP address to the system, (recognized by its MAC address), as you suggest. The problem is that I also access the same system over the internet via dynamic DNS, and the public IP address (actually, that of the router / gateway - I'm doing port forwarding) is not generally known. So why can't you access it directly ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian , Ian Murdock
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 13:55, Frank McCormick wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:15:18 +0100 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. So, if you want to keep your software current and run Ubuntu, then you need to reinstall the operating system every six months. If you run Debian Stable, it will be every few years and you won't get the lastest versions, but you don't have to reinstall anything. The dist-upgrade will work. However, run Testing and you'll get semi up to date packages and stability (most of the time) but you don't get security patches. Run Sid and you get up-to-date packages and stability (most of the time) and you get security patches. If you're adept enough at running Debian Sid, you don't need Ubuntu for anything. Your chances of your system breaking in both the latest Ubuntu and Sid are just as likely, but Sid gets fixed quickly. It also evolves, so there is no reason ever to re-install. This of course applies to desktop machines. I guess I still don't completely understand the Debian system. Why would I not get security patches running testing...which I think is really Etch now ? I believe a testing security repository was introuced a few months before sarge or so. Thomas pgp8Plx3Z8lON.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: host aliases
On Monday 19 March 2007 14:48, Celejar wrote: I don't, in general, know the IP address. I have a system on my LAN, ^ if it's on your LAN, why can't you just give a static internal IP address ? If a DHCP server supplies certain dynamic information (name servers and such), maybe it can be configured to map a MAC to an IP or something ? Thomas pgpIPJp87jEde.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vi, vim, and update-alternatives [solved]
On Monday 19 March 2007 22:22, Paul E Condon wrote: Now, I think I have never actually used vi. Instead, I have always been using versions of vim that were loaded when I typed 'vi'. My ignorance is revealed, but I learn, slowly. The closest free piece of software you can get is, AFAIK, nvi (new vi), which is included in debian, but I doubt it's auto-installed. Vim also behaves differently when called as 'vi' - a lot of options and you never know which if you didn't set it up yourself. Thoams pgpcKYs3pv5fv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Graphics cards
On Sunday 18 March 2007 23:10, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: It looks like my graphics card is slowly dying and I would value input on optimal chipsets/manufacturers for a replacement in the context of Debian (Etch presently). No especial requirements in terms of high performance, just something that is fully supported under Linux. not-too-recent ATi cards are fully supported, and, compared to other options (Matrox, what else is there...), more used and probably cheaper. Thomas Jollans pgpDHSRMJkS9O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cedega and chroot
On Saturday 17 March 2007 03:54, José Sánchez wrote: 2007/3/16, Thomas Jollans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 16 March 2007 23:17, José Sánchez wrote: E:F1 2007-03-16 05:32:27,575 CRITICAL Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings: could not open display that sounds like an X11 permission problem. Run % xhost local:localhost outside the chroot (non-root...) and try again. Thomas thanks a lot, it worked, now, im getting stuck with the cdrom drives inside the chroot, my /dev folder (from outside) is already binded to the chroot, but i try the mount and i cant get it working, any idea? How does it fail ? (is there an error message?) You may need a /proc mount and/or an mtab (mount table) in the chroot. First, mount /proc outside# mount -t proc none /chroot/proc Then, get an /etc/mtab chroot# cat /proc/mounts /etc/mtab Thomas PS: Please, NEVER reply off-list. If you want to reply to a mailing list post, send the reply to the mailing list. That's the whole point of having them. If your mail client doesn't cut it, get a decent one like Sylpheed-Claws, KMail or Mutt. IceDove/Thunderbird isn't perfect, but usable if you hit Reply All and edit the recipients. pgpCdRxGwrWWV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A silly question about tar
On Saturday 17 March 2007 13:58, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 05:00:21AM -0500, Adam Porter wrote:
Thanks for your replies, everyone. It seems to me that there might be a
market for a simple script frontend to tar that would handle
shell-expanded wildcards; perhaps it could be included in Debian's
package of tar. Would that be a good idea? Does anything like that
already exist?
You use find to spit out a list of the files you want (you _may_ be able
to just use ls -1 .tar), pipe that through xargs. Something like this:
ls -1 .tar.gz | xargs tar [tar options -f ]
for each line of input it receives, xargs will tack it to the end of the
command line you give it (in the example, it will be tacked on after the
-f).
That shouldn't change anything. Tar is unable to unpack multiple archives, end
or story (the exception being multi-volume archives where you need -M and
an -f for each file)
However, find should do it:
find . -name '*.tar.bz2' -exec tar xjf \{\} \;
Thomas
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Re: A silly question about tar
On Saturday 17 March 2007 14:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 02:35:01PM +0100, Thomas Jollans wrote: On Saturday 17 March 2007 13:58, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 05:00:21AM -0500, Adam Porter wrote: You use find to spit out a list of the files you want (you _may_ be able to just use ls -1 .tar), pipe that through xargs. Something like this: ls -1 .tar.gz | xargs tar [tar options -f ] for each line of input it receives, xargs will tack it to the end of the command line you give it (in the example, it will be tacked on after the -f). That shouldn't change anything. Tar is unable to unpack multiple archives, end or story (the exception being multi-volume archives where you need -M and an -f for each file) Of course it changes everything. xargs runs tar on each line of input it gets. If ls -1 finds three tarballs, it gives three lines to xargs. xargs then runs tar three times, each with one tarball argument. this is not true, see Tyler Smit's post. pgpVg65KFjuas.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: tar vs
On Saturday 17 March 2007 17:08, Frank McCormick wrote: What is Linuxs obsession with tar ? What is (are) the advantage(s) of tar over ZIP/RAR for example. it works, that's all. ZIP and RAR aren't available everywhere and, AFAIK, are unable to represent UNIX permissions. Also, the separation of archivation and compression can come in handy. Thomas pgpfPev5OUsRO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to install PHP5 using aptitude?
On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:44, Kelly Jones wrote: shows that all PHP5 packages are virtual-- they're only used to satisfy dependencies. I'd just install the virtual packages and see whether it works. They might have dependencies on the actual PHP which mortals are unable to find. Thomas pgpxP9vKnSdEB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Very slow network - Ubuntu
On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:31, A. Ben Hmeda wrote: I have searched ubuntu forums to no avail. Why don't you ask there ? debian mailing lists have nothing to do with ubuntu support. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing the last letter in my posts
On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:48, Tyler Smith wrote: Hi, My name is Tyler Smith, as noted in my signature. I was wondering why people were often referring to me as Tyler Smit, or previously as Tyle. Then I realised that my signature was getting truncated by one letter. I'm using slrn, with my messages edited in emacs. Anyone know what's happening? I just checked and it seems that all of my latest messages to debian.user are missing the last letter, but messages sent to gmane.comp.lang.r.general are not, despite using the same config files for slrn for both. I thought it was a strange name... (just wildly guessing) try appending a line feed to your signature for that to be removed by whatever is removing them. My guess is that the NNTP gateway debian uses is the culprit... Thomas pgpTAyrmEsUo3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: missing the last letter in my posts
On Saturday 17 March 2007 22:38, Nigel Henry wrote: On Saturday 17 March 2007 21:50, Tyler Smith wrote: On 2007-03-17, Thomas Jollans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (just wildly guessing) try appending a line feed to your signature for that= to=20 be removed by whatever is removing them. Ok, I've added a new line, let's see if I'm a Smith again... -- Regards, Tyler Smit Unless you've done the typo your still a Smit. There's so much OT stuff gone on on this list that I'm not too bothered anymore about wasting a bit of bandwidth. How about trying the German version of Smith, which is Schmidt IIRC. It will interesting to see if the last letter appears. now THAT is quite pointless. How about adding '.' ? that seams quite harmless too. Thomas pgps9JGKpn0c8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: audiocd utility in gnome?
On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:19, Mark Grieveson wrote: Hello. I'm wondering if there is a similar utility to konqueror's audiocd:/ utility in gnome? Does nautilus have a similar utility? If not, I'll just install konqueror, and use it. I don't know what audiocd:/ does, but I know that grip and sound-juicer can play and rip audio CDs, banshee and brasero are examples for apps capable of writing them. Thomas pgp5b34XzfiTx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: missing the last letter in my posts
On Saturday 17 March 2007 23:53, Nigel Henry wrote: [snip] After posting I realised that I always put a full stop after my name, and have never had any problems with missing letters. Perhaps someones put the hex on the letter h, and it doesn't appear as a final letter in someones name. Just for fun I'll put my full name here, without a fullstop, and see what turns up. Nigel Henry We both don't use the NNTP gateway, Tyler, however, does. Also, his name is below a double dash and a Regards, ;-) (the h is not it or he'd never have been Tyle...) Let's see (also, I won't GPG sign this message as for the test being more authentic) -- Regards, Thomas Jollans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing the last letter in my posts
Nigel Henry wrote: After posting I realised that I always put a full stop after my name, and have never had any problems with missing letters. Perhaps someones put the hex on the letter h, and it doesn't appear as a final letter in someones name. Just for fun I'll put my full name here, without a fullstop, and see what turns up. Nigel Henry By way of serious debugging, I am using the newsgroup gate way for this message with a Tyler-style sig. -- Regards, Thomas Jollans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cheap LCD display
On Friday 16 March 2007 17:37, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, I am looking for a cheap (DVI ?) LCD display for my Etch boxes (macbook or macmini): any advice is more than wellcome ! what size are you thinking of ? Thomas pgpFQIJg3UhCL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cedega and chroot
On Friday 16 March 2007 23:17, José Sánchez wrote: E:F1 2007-03-16 05:32:27,575 CRITICAL Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings: could not open display that sounds like an X11 permission problem. Run % xhost local:localhost outside the chroot (non-root...) and try again. Thomas pgphKid7GFUpL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Backup
Jan Dinger wrote: Hallo, Ich möchte ein backup machen: 1/woche Fullbackup 6/woche inkrementel Habe es bis jetzt immer via Script gelöst (selber geschrieben), das wollte ich aber diesmal nicht machen und bin auch der Suche nach einem geeignetem Backupprogramm, ich habe nur erfahrungen mit ArcServ, kenne jedoch andere Programme auch, kann mir jemand eins empfehlen, wo gute Erfahrungen damit gemacht wurden? Das Backup muss 100% zuverlässig sein. mfg Jan Bitte verwenden Sie auf der debian-user Liste nur Englisch. Für Deutschsprachige gibt es die seperate Liste debian-user-german . Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: farewell mp3 :(
roberto wrote: [snip] 4. When did it start? After upgrade maybe? after the last upgrade it was ok, probably after realplayer installation, but, sorry, i'm not sure of this 5. Do other sound formats (OGG, WAV, etc.) and applications that produce sound (games for example) work fine? yes they work fine [snip] does it work in realplayer ? (guessing) possibly realplayer overwrote libmad with an incompatible or a buggy one. How did you install realplayer ? You may want to try apt-get install --reinstall libmad0 for this case. It won't hurt your system. Thomas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: new user with installation problem
On Friday 07 July 2006 23:12, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Andrea Maffei wrote: Hello, I would like to install Debian. I have downloaded debian-31r2-ia64-netinst.iso and I made an iso copy on a CD. But when I when I start the computer (I have checked on the BIOS that the CD reader is the primary boot) it doesn't start by itself. What do I have to do? Does your computer have an Itanium processor? If not, what kind of processor? Itanium - ia64 Athlon64, Opteron and some Xeons - amd64 and some Pentium 4's - those with EM64T support Other Xeons, Athlon and Pentiums - i386 -Roberto pgpybnB335c9h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrade from Sarge to Etch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: testing is a train station in the Denian line. etch is the train car currently parked at the testing station for repairs and modifications. if you choose testing you will sooner or later be looking at the next train car coming down the line. If you choose etch you will get on that train car called etch and ride with it to the next station called stable and then on down the line to the oldstable station and beyond that there be monsters. nice idea :) sid/unstable is the backyard shipment station for testing and has no train, only a few small goods trains running stuff to testing for train maintainence. experimental is the factory. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEqT0+In6lZjt3j+cRAhhpAJ48kSarzKf4P2JVJq+lRDpeTGRqLQCdHRAl /5vQ+B8lahfTyLHk4ya59fQ= =ZXqO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer packages for offline install
Kumar Appaiah wrote: Dear Debian user, I am taking the first eight CDs of Debian Sarge to a low bandwidth location for install. These CDs have most of the software I need. Now, I know that mplayer insn't in Sarge. What I would like to know is, which packages are to be taken so that all dependencies for mplayer are complete? Or would you suggest some way by which I can get only mplayer and it's dependencies from debian-multimedia.org? debmirror, perhaps? when you have a sarge system with internet connection and without mplayer, you can get the URIs with apt-get -y --download-only --print-uris install mplayer mencoder (or with other packages). This will give you a list of packages you can wget. with a little sed you get only the URIs: apt-get -y --download-only --print-uris install mplayer mencoder | sed -r 1,/additional disk space/d;s/'(.+)'.+/\\1/ ... Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rhythmbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Hardy wrote: Just did a general upgrade in etch and accepted all bugs and have problems now with rhythmbox, which won't play any MP3s now. it'll play OGG files, but not MP3s. Trying to fix it, I came across some directions for testing files with gstreamer, and I realise that rhythmbox considers itself a Gnome app, but I'm using KDE. I don't have gstreamer installer, it looks like a heavy-weight Gnome component, maybe even a daemon but I'm not sure. So to test, I should install gstreamer, but I'm not convinced I need gstreamer at all in KDE. But perhaps rhythmbox has changed now to work only under Gnome. Anyone know what the situation is? GStreamer is a library that is used heavily in Gnome, but does not use a daemon by default. (unlike arts...) It does not hurt to install gstreamer and gstreamer should not depend on anything rhythmbox didn't depend on anyway... (like glib etc) Thomas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEp9KpIn6lZjt3j+cRAuteAJ9Ct0WBvEECt9eqqL6WVlslVJN6OACggmq/ yRrK3yzwwnP/Tlsudwbtfms= =eWyg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel Xeon EMT64
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:09, Beat Zimmerli wrote: Hi everybody I want to run a webserver on an Intel Xeon machine. Which release do I have to install? AMD64? Is it save? Any suggestion apreciated. first of all, it's called EM64T. You can run wither the i386 or the amd46 version of sarge. In general, there is no security-wise difference between the two architectures, but the amd64 port of sarge is UNOCCIFICIAL and thus may create some risk you are not willing to accept. On AMD 64-bit processors, the speed increase of amd64 is noticable (using it right now). I heard that this is not quite the case on Intel processors, as Intel only included the feature as not to lose too much market to AMD. Your choice. On a webserver, I doubt you will want any x86-inly packages. Tanks Beat Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fluxbox and screen blanking
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 16:33, Ishwar Rattan wrote: I am running a debian derivative system details ? with fluxbox window manager. The screen does not blank and I have failed in finding how to do it? you may want to install Xscreensaver and start it in your ,xsession . I believe blanking is its responsibility (you can turn off screen savers etc with the graphical config tool. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distribution upgrade question
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:39, Magnus Therning wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I restricted ? I see no restrictions here. Just a little less eye candy *lol* First off, Sarge is the stable release, Sid is the (permanent) name of unstable. :-) Step one is to think once again of why you are doing this! because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;) Step two is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list. This is the relevant part of mine: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free Yes, you should include 'testing' as well as 'unstable'. rubbish. if not, why ? unstable includes everything. Step three is to run `apt-get update`, then `apt-get dist-upgrade`. If you're religious this is a good time to pray... If not, this is a good time to make coffee unless your internet connection is based on *insert super fast technology that is used by no debian mirror here* Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best Linux Laptop
On Monday 13 March 2006 22:13, Michael Schurter wrote: I know I've seen lots of posts on this before, so I'm sorry for asking the same questions over and over. Someone just asked me what the ideal laptop would be to purchase to install Debian Linux onto. The main thing is WiFi support and good quality. Don't need lots of storage or a super fast processor, but basic 3D support would be nice. I've seen lots of posts on here about wireless cards not working, so thats what I'm the most concerned about. I'd go for centrino books because intel is being really open source friendly... or so I heard. I've heard of lots of people running Linux on IBM Thinkpads, but I can't seem to purchase one from Lenovo without Windows. There are companies selling laptops sans-Windows. Actually I was on three different websites of such companies recently, but I have no link and do not know where I got it. Do any of the major laptop manufactures sell laptops without OSes installed? no major ones. Smaller ones/resellers *might* be worth a try. Be sure to compare prices and compatibility probability if you think about getting a laptop without windows as well, of course ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could you do me a favor?
On Monday 20 February 2006 00:47, Serena Cantor wrote: I am in mainland China, can't visit the site below: www.chinaleadershipmonitor.org because the government block it. Could you visit it and get the latest issue and sent it to me (about 6 pdf files, about 100k in total)? Thanks! communism and the internet don't mix too well... it seams -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File System - a stupid question ;)
On Friday 17 February 2006 16:38, Wodzu Wodzowski wrote: I want to install Debian on laptop, but I want to have ReiserFS/Reiser4 or XFS file system. I've found that I can convert/create partition with one of above file system. Can I install Sarge on Reiser/XFS partition?? ReiserFS and XFS are supported out-of-the-box by debian-installer. actually, I have never used debian without ReiserFS. Reiser4 is not even supported by linux (the kernel). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.
On Friday 17 February 2006 11:02, Adam Funk wrote: I'm planning to buy a new home computer soon and am considering Xeon, Athlon 64 and Opteron 64, but I'm not sure about the relevant Debian architectures, ia64 and amd64. Which one applies to which of those processors? I'm also concerned about the potential shortage of 64-bit software for a general-purpose workstation, so I'd like to know what other people think of this. Will I be setting myself up for a lot of hassle? Should I just stick with a Pentium 4 for now? Thanks, Adam amd64 applies to all amd *64 processors, that is athlon, turion and opteron afaik, and recent Intel processors of the Pentium and Xeon brands. Prescott P4s support amd64, branded EM64T by Intel, for example. IA64 is usable only on Intel Itantum processors. You can run i386 on AMD64 processors as well. Most open source software (including all of KDE and GNOME) works on AMD64 and for that that doesn't or for non-open source software you can use the i386 emulation built into the processor and supported by the linux kernel. The debian amd64 howto is one of many sources of information. I am on an Athlon64 now. AFAIK, Intel Pentium and Xeon processors do not support EM64T as well as AMD64 is supported by AMD. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good dual head x tutorial
On Thursday 16 February 2006 21:56, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: my problem: the analog (vga) output and monitor is a little off. let me explain: the horizontal size of X is a little to wide for the monitor and the lcd doesnt provide a mechanism to adjust the size of the display, just the position of it. i have looked at DisplaySize option for the Monitor section in xorg.conf, but that did not change anything. also there are slight vertical flickers on the analog lcd monitor. have you tried xvidtune ? I don't know if it works with dual head though -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alsa lag in IA32 chroot on AMD64 ?
Hi, When playing games in an IA32 chroot on my AMD64 system with ALSA sound I am expieriencing a considerable framerate drop compared to OSS or no sound. Why ? Can I fix this ? I am running debian unstable. The problems do not occur in native amd64. thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++: Math function round() does not compile - why?
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 11:48, Oliver Elphick wrote: [snip] sprintf(tmp, %.4f, round((double) newqty * price * discpc) / 100.); [snip] orderimpl.cpp:84: implicit declaration of function `int round(...)' this is indeed wierd. %.4f should expect a double, not an int. You could try %.4g or %.4e or ask in comp.lang.c++ or comp.lang.c in USENET.. thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help me....
rozita reza wrote: im going to use linux as my server for windows clients what distro should i use out of Debian and Redhat or Fedora core.? i prefer Debian but i doubt... please help me, thank you .. debian is the most stable. debian has this great community. loads of people and companies use debian for servers. fedora core is crap. if you really need commercial support (keep in mind there's this great mailing list youre posting to which is probably faster and more helpful than any support dep in a big coorp.) you'd have to go fer red hat or novell. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firefox - how to change menu font
LeVA wrote: Hi! Is it possible to change firefox's (1.5) font, which is used to display it's menus and dialog windows? Thanks! Daniel I don't think so. A while ago I filed this as a bug in mozilla-firefox. (1.0.7 then) I got no response I am aware of. it's bug #326270. I am not currently aware of its status, but it would certainly help if you submitted further information of this bug. (This bug should also be moved to package firefox I believe. I do not currently use debian, so I'm not sure.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Controlling eth0,eth1,... assignment order?
Stefhen Hovland wrote: i think ifrename will do what you are asking, you can specify that eth0 always be bound to x, and eth1 always bound to y, etc.. http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/ifrename stefhen On 12/29/05, Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the new way of device creation and module loading (udev, discover etc) my ethernet modules (3c59x,8139too) are loaded in different order with kernels 2.6.12 and 2.6.14. For 2.6.14 3c59x is loaded first corresponding to eth0 and then 8139too corresponding to eth1. With kernel 2.6.12 they are loaded in reverse order, giving the wrong names on my interfaces, and the interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces becomes wrong. How to bind modules to eth interface numbers? Any hints on which of the /etc/modules, /etc/modules.conf etc should be used, and which are obsolete? udev should work here. you can set it up. You can set up devices to have certain names (e.g. you camera as /dev/camera) with it , and I heard this works with network interfaces too. google is your friend if you want more informtion, I hope. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OOT] windows multimedia format incompatibilities (was: Re: [OT] MPEG2 on Windows)
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Thursday 29 December 2005 17:45, Ron Johnson wrote: kino (which is a non-linear video editor) *might* be able to do it, as onw of it's side functions. Tangential on this topic, I encoded a movie from and AVI created by my digital camera on my Sarge box to MPEG2 to using Kino. It plays fine on all my systems, but I've sent it to friends, and they can't play it on their windows boxes... I wonder what MS has done to mess up that, it should be a no-brainer? It has to be their fault... :-) I don't have access to any windows-boxes now, has anybody else had this problem? I only had the problem that windows users can't play vanilla mpeg4/mp3 avi videos - the format I rip dvds to... msmpeg4v2, mp3 avi video seams to work. And microsoft doesn't seam to support ogg vorbis either... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problème vidéo
Pueblo wrote: Bonjour, j'ai une vidéo en mpg sur laquelle j'ai un petit décalage entre le son et l'image. Aprés quelque recherches infructueuse autour de mencoder, je n'arrive toujours pas à resynchroniser le son et l'image. Quelqu'un aurait-il un tuyau ? Merci d'avance. demandez à debian-user-french@lists.debian.org ou demandez en anglais ici, s'il vous plaît. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [audio problem] Audio skips
belbo wrote: Peter Nuttall wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 10:41:25PM +0100, belbo wrote: [...] Yes, my Xorg has -10 priority. And Gnome is quite slow even with -10. X How can I put value down? Which value can I try? Does it make any sense increase player priority? Audio never skipped, probably an upgrade changed some priority. renice esd 10 (or -10, I can't remember which ) I'm not running esd. [...] I can't think what is going wrong, unless you have the wrong driver for your soundcard or there is a bug in the sound system. I've noticed a very strange behaviour. I run skype with a OSS wrapper called aoss. When I switch desktop (or I load a web page), aoss writes down these messages: write error, written = 256 write error, written = 256 write error, written = 256 write error, written = 546 write error, written = 770 write error, written = 320 It can mean that X produces some sort of audio crap on refreshing. This sounds crazy, but I can observe it quite clearly. Audio skips exactly on errors. If I don't switch desktop etc etc., audio works fine. Does it mean there is a oss related bug in Xorg? of in gnome ? I have similiar problems on gnome, but can't remember having them on kde... Thank you, Belbo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get my Kernel Back?
David R. Litwin wrote: Do to the recent problems with yaird and the new Kernel Image (suffice it to say), I have... removed my one and only kernel image. How do I get it back? I tried to do this from Knoppix but it doesn't seem to work. I will try again soon and give more details. Unless some one can point out an obvious reason why this wouldn't work. That would be great. Well, thanks much. Cheers. in knoppix, you first have to mount all your debian partitions to soewhere, e.g.: / to /mnt/debian /usr to /mnt/debian/usr /home to /mnt/debian/home etc. etc. though I exoet you did that anyway. then you'll have to (I think) bind /dev and /proc: # mount --bind /dev /mnt/debian/dev # mount --bind /proc /mnt/debian/proc then chroot # chroot /mnt/debian and install the kernel with apt-get as usual. I hope this helped. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
John Hasler wrote: Gnu_Raiz writes: This is one program that I believe is worth buying the license for. This is especially true if you have any windows machine's around. If you use Usenet for any amount of time you will find that this program is a must have. Interesting. I've been on Usenet for twenty years and I have not felt any need for that program. It's kind of like needing Lame, or Mplayer nowadays, yes it's non free, but you really do need it. Mplayer is licensed under the GPL. and lame is free software as well. it is however illegal to use or distribute it because of Frauenhofer patents. Mplayer is not included in debian because of patent issues as well afaik. it strikes me as odd that xine, a fork of mplayer, is included in debian. I have never felt the need for RAR, although I have a lot of contact with windows users. They all use zip. The only thing that I sometimes have as rar are windows binaries or similiar, which I then open with 7-Zip under windows (as the contents of rar files have never been any use to me outside windows). It strikes me as odd that the posix 7zip doesn't support rar - the windows version does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix + osCommerce problem
Almut Behrens wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 07:30:48PM +0100, Thomas Jollans wrote: I am creating an osCommerce-based webshop and am having probems with postfix. the mail below gets returned by the mailer. (things in square brackets were left because they are unimportant and/or to protect my and other's privacy. [EMAIL ADDRESS] signifies a proper and existant email address) I do not understand this problem because the recieptent *is* specified. Check how postfix/sendmail is being invoked by PHP. This is configured in php.ini, typically something like sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i Make sure there's -t to have postfix extract recipients from the message headers To:, Cc: and Bcc: (otherwise recipients would need to be passed as arguments on the commandline, which I believe PHP's mail() function doesn't do...). Cheers, Almut thanks ! adding -t -i fixed it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix + osCommerce problem
I am creating an osCommerce-based webshop and am having probems with postfix. the mail below gets returned by the mailer. (things in square brackets were left because they are unimportant and/or to protect my and other's privacy. [EMAIL ADDRESS] signifies a proper and existant email address) I do not understand this problem because the recieptent *is* specified. [HEADER ETC] This is the Postfix program at host localhost.localdomain. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program unknown: No recipients specified --4632943DF.1133890478/localhost.localdomain Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 4632943DF X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arrival-Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:34:38 +0100 (CET) Final-Recipient: rfc822; unknown Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; No recipients specified --4632943DF.1133890478/localhost.localdomain Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 33) id 4632943DF; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:34:38 +0100 (CET) To: [EMAIL ADDRESS] Subject: Bestellung From: [OWNER NAME] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [CUSTOMER NAME] [EMAIL ADDRESS] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: osCommerce Mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:34:38 +0100 (CET) [MESSAGE ETC] Thomas Jollans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few general questions from a Debian newbie
Scott wrote: Kent West wrote: 3- OpenOffice 2 was recently added to Debian Unstable. Is it likely that OpenOffice 2 will be added to Debian Stable. If so when? No. Stable does not get new packages, other than bug/security fixes and the like. And that my friends, is Debian's biggest flaw when it comes to the desktop user. It's also why I'll never run stable I don't believe that the average desktop user requires the latest software. Sarge is a perfectly functional and exceptionally stable system an adequately simple user interface. However, I am not currently using sarge, and this of course has its reasons. It is simply what I am used to, which is GNOME = 2.10, especially with its automounting features. So, I am using ubuntu for the time being because I got fed up with using sid for everything that worked on sid and resorting o stable for the rest. ubuntu provides me with a reasonable amount of stability and gnome's automounting feature which I have grown to love. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Debian ready for the desktop?
Ueli Meier wrote: Im thinking of getting Debian Linux, currently I use Mandrake but I need to upgrade. On the web I could not get the Information I was looking for. I read an article that was a bit confusing. It says if you want a Linux Desktop rather use coral Linux or Suse. Check the links. http://www.aboutdebian.com/install31.htm http://www.aboutdebian.com/desktop.htm Is Debian more for server applications, or is it a true Desktop like Suse? Can I access the files on a dos partition? Ueli debian is brilliant for everything, but, unlike ubuntu or suse or mandriva, it is not tuned to be a desktop. this of course gives youa great deal of flexibility. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Useful GUI apps on low-mem computers?
Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Greetings all, Our local Free Software User Group has a large number of donated computers, each having 64MB of RAM and a PII or PIII processor. We are intending to configure these computers with a useful set of software and make them available for use by low-income people in our community. We have no budget for buying more memory. My question is, if you had a computer with 64 MB of RAM, and you wanted to give the novice user the ability to browse the web, use e-mail, instant messaging, create documents and spreadsheets, etc. What window manager and GUI applications would you choose? window manager: XFCE is a nice desktop with a small memory footprint compared to kde or gnome. icewm is quite nice and very lightweight. web browser: try firefox, and if it's too slow go for dillo. i have never used dillo myself email: of course mutt is teh classic answer, but if you're looking for a gui, go for balsa. lightweight and very nice integration with procmail if you want it. can be used paralell to mutt... instant messaging: depends on the preferred protocol. gaim is probably the best choice for multiple protocols, but if only one protocol is needed you should try something like licq or amsn documents, spreadsheets: openoffice may be the best office suite to date, but it's a monster. abiword/gnumeric should suffice. abiword supports open document. if you choose xfce,firefox or dillo,balsa, gaim and abiword/gnumeric you even mave a consistent looking gtk+ desktop... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox - No Scrollbars
Hendrik Boom wrote: -- but only in etch. In sarge -- same box, same set of home directories, but different / -- everything works fine. She's using mozilla under KDE in both systems. are sarge and etch using the same mozilla version ? If they use the same /home, the themes will be the same, but themes are not always 100% compatible between mozilla versions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ready to join the club..
Greg wrote: I'm a noob to Debian but I'm ready to install Debian to my current machine. (PIII, 512MB Ram, 2 HDs; 60 MB - main and 80 MB secondary). The first HD contains WinME (don't laugh) and the second will contain Debian in one partition and Windows files (mp3s, JPEGs) in the other. I've already partitioned the second HD and burned the installation image files onto CDs. My question is this, I want to use a boot loader that will load either WinME or Debian. Grub seems like the default boot loader per the installation docs I've read. During installation, will Grub be smart enough to see WinMe on the other drive and will itput the boot loader file on the main drive, the one that holds WinME? I've sorted for this topic what wasn't able to find information on my setup. It should work fine. every time i installed debian it found my winodws (xp) install and at least some of the other linux installations without problems. I have never expierienced data loss when installing debian. my windoze uses fat32, as WinMe does. in case it doesn't auto-detect, you can always add winme to grub. or you can use the windows boot loader to boot debian (at least with win2000 and winXP ) ( tricky ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with gaim
wood wood wrote: hi i installed gaim by 'apt-get installed gaim' i am using sarge kernel 2.4 on compaq laptop. i have nvidia audio driver and realtek ethernet card. now the problem is when i am chatting with somebody, with each message sent and each message received, i get this error on my terminal. libao - OSS cannot set channels to 1 this is a sound problem. this probably means you can't hear beeps while chatting. are you using the sound system for something else ? so i dont know what problem is. also i tried to send a file from my pc through gaim and the file went through. i was sending it to my friend who is on yahoo msn. but my friend didnt receive the file , he also didnt get prompt asking him to accept the file wood __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb-stick durch Benutzung zerstört?
Frank Dietrich wrote: Hi, hab folgende Frage. Ist es möglich das man einen USB-Stick durch bloßes Anstecken an einen Rechner ins Nirvana zu schicken? Hab mir am Samstag einen 1GB Stick zugelegt, den angesteckt und eine 400 MB Datei kopieren wollen. Leider ist es dann (bei schätzungsweise 100-150MB) mit folgendem Fehler abgebrochen. usb 1-1: reset full speed USB device using address 2 scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 1 \ channel 0 id 0 lun 0 SCSI error : 1 0 0 0 return code = 0x5 end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 412151 Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 412088 lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1 scsi1 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device Nach etlichen Stunden in $Suchmaschine und Rumprobierens hab ich keine Lösung gefunden. Den Stick heute an einem Windows-PC angesteckt. Gleiches Fehlerbild. Also hin zum Schrauber und Stick gegen einen neuen getauscht. Nur hab ich mit dem genau das gleiche Problem. :-/ Deshalb die Frage ob ich den Stick durch Benutzung irgendwie ins Jenseits befördert haben könnte. Oder hab ich einfach nur ausgesprochenes Pech? Frank wow. klingt arg nach pech. mein stick (alter 64mb) hat schon etliche linuxe, windowse, schulrechner und waschmaschinen überstanden... -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: How to install X for 915 chipsets?
Li Weichen wrote: Hi everyone, I am installing X for my desktop whose main accessories are CPU: 2.66g em64t; RAM: 512M*2 DDR; Mainboard: intel D915GAV with integrated graphic card; Monitor: 17 LG LCD. I want to install Debian on my PC but when I get to the xfree86 setup, I don't know which graphic card should I choose. I have tried vesa, vga, i810, imstt, but none of them went right. Could you please help me? Li Weichen 2005-10-20 Could you please specify what went wrong ? vga should work on _all_ cards and vesa on nearly all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt gui
Oliver Lupton wrote: Max wrote: Dear All, When installing Sarge this morning I chose the option for manually choosing which packages to install. There was a simple GUI where I could see which packages were available and select which I wanted. Was that synaptic? Regards, Max I'd guess it was aptitude, but I'm not sure. I wouldn't describe synaptic's GUI as simple anyway... Cheers, Oliver synaptic is a hell more simple than aptitude. to the debian newbe (i remember quite clearly my first sarge (testing then) install ) it is plain intimidating. and I wouldn't call aptitud a 'gui', but ascii-graphical, but that's just personal terminology preference. some people call the d-i a text installer... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DMA-Probleme in testing
Stephan Maseizik wrote: Andreas Pakulat [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On 15.10.05 12:03:20, Stephan Maseizik wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lsmod via82cxxx 13980 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lsmod -- Siehst du den Unterschied? Lade via82cxxx und dann sollte auch DMA wieder gehen... Andreas Danke für den Tipp. Ich kriege das leider nicht hin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] insmod via82cxxx can't read 'via82cxxx': No such file or directory es heißt 'modprobe' und nicht 'insmod'. bei 'insmod' müsstest du den gesamten Pfad angeben. Ich bin ratlos. hoffentlich klappts dann jetzt -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
Marc Shapiro wrote: Can anyone suggest a way to network/connect all four to possibly distribute the load among them? http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ sounds like what you're looking for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Should I try Etch?
Redefined Horizons wrote: I'm still rather new to Linux, Then it's probably better if you stick to stable for a while at least. stable doesn't break, but testing and unstable break all the time (at the moment at least) [2] Are there other advantages I'll get from running Etch, other than Gnome 2.12? Is Etch running OpenOffice 2.0? Debian only includes GNOME 2.10 Openoffice 2.0 doesn't exist. the newsest version is 2.0 RC1 [4] Do they need more users to test Etch, or will my questions just be a pain in the neck for developers? testers are always wanted in every project. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB oder LILO
Marc Deichmann wrote: Moin! Ich habe einen vorinstallierten, dedizierten Server bei einem Hoster. Dort ist grub und lilo installiert. Beide sind komplett konfiguriert. Wie stelle ich fest, welcher Bootloader gerade benutzt wird? Ich habe keinen Monitorzugang zu der Maschine! Gruß, Marc dir könnte das auch egal sein. du könntest einfach deinen lieblings-bootmanager drüberinstallieren. für grub: grub-install '(hd0)' für lilo: lilo -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: /dev/dsp hat sich verflüchtigt
Rüdiger Noack wrote: Sven Hartge wrote: Rüdiger Noack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aber ich habe seit heute keinen Sound mehr. Offensichtlich, weil /dev/dsp nicht mehr existiert. Kernel? udev? hotplug? So funktioniert der Sound: ii udev 0.056-3/dev/ management daemon ii hotplug0.0.20040329-2 Linux Hotplug Scripts Linux flinker 2.6.7-1-386 #1 Thu Jul 8 05:08:04 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 2004-07-22 21:54 /dev/dsp Mit dem neulich aktualisierten Kernel auf 2.6.8-2-k7 gibt es kein /dev/dsp und keinen Sound. Was muss ich tun, um den aktuellen sarge-Kernel einsetzen zu können und trotzdem Musik hören zu können? schon mal mit einem -386 oder -686 kernel probiert ? Gruß Rüdiger -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: A problem with my apt-get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, -- As apt-get uses dpkg program, I can ask a question about apt-get install here:). Here the command line and the associated error: lucifer:/home/metan# apt-get install bb snip : french apt-get output saying that it depends on libsdl-net1.2 but this is not going to be installed - The command apt-get -f install does not resolve the problem, I try to install libsdl-net1.2 : -- lucifer:/home/metan# apt-get install libsdl-net1.2 snip: french apt-get output stating that there was an error installing libsdl-net1.2 becuase it contains /usr/lib/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0.0.5 which is also in sdl-net. Could help me? this kind of dependency error happens all the time in sid, and is fixed pretty quickly usually. sounds like libsdl-net1.2 in being superseded by sdl-net (or the other may around) Thank You(Please Send me the answer on my own address, for i'm not member of the list)... then bloody well become one! If we replied to you personally, what good would it be for the community ?! That's what mailing lists are about. This kind of associal behavior is, as you may have noticed, not taken lightly on mailing lists or newsgroups. So: you could use the archives, but they won't let you reply. you can use the newsgroup gateway (linux.debian.something) . and, it would be nice if you gave us english output on english mailing lists. 'LANG=en COMMAND' will do fine. I will send you a mail with the archive URL of this message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde und unicode
Matthias Taube wrote: Hi, ich habe mein System auf unicode eingestellt. wie/wo hast du es umgestellt Um die Systemsprache KOMPLETT umzustellen musst du mit dpkg-reconfigure locales die Locales generieren UND evtl /etc/environment anpassen. Doch wenn ich kde Programme (kwrite, konsole, kdevelop) direkt über das Menü starte, beherrschen sie kein unicode. du meinst sie können bestimmte nicht-ISO-8859-15-Zeichen nicht (korrekt) darstellen ? -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: kde und unicode
Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 02.10.05 23:25:48, Thomas Jollans wrote: Matthias Taube wrote: Hi, ich habe mein System auf unicode eingestellt. wie/wo hast du es umgestellt Um die Systemsprache KOMPLETT umzustellen musst du mit dpkg-reconfigure locales die Locales generieren UND evtl /etc/environment anpassen. Was hilft unter Sarge und bei Login mittels kdm _null_, denn der kdm liest /etc/environment nicht ein, genausowenig die /etc/profile oder die /etc/bash.bashrc (oder die entsprechenden Dateien in $HOME). Die einzigen Moeglichkeiten mit dem 3.3.2er kdm die Sprache der Sitzung auf de_DE.UTF-8 umzustellen sind: kdm liest nicht mal /etc/environment ? außerdem: es verwendet gnome-terminal und sagt explizit 'KDE Programme'. Daraus schließe ich, das er GNOME verwendet 1. Bei Login mittels Default-Session einfach in die $HOME/.xsession: export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 /usr/bin/startkde eintragen ich habe in sarge (gnome/gdm) die sprache nur mit $LANG nicht komplett verändern können. /etc/environment hilft jedoch bei gdm 2. Das kdm Xsession-Skript so abaendern, dass LANG gesetzt wird oder eine der Bash-Init-Dateien eingelesen wird. wie gesagt, $LANG reicht nicht. Ich glaube $LANGUAGE und die $LC_* variablen werden automatisch gesetzt und werden von manchen Programmen bevorzugt. Doch wenn ich kde Programme (kwrite, konsole, kdevelop) direkt über das Menü starte, beherrschen sie kein unicode. du meinst sie können bestimmte nicht-ISO-8859-15-Zeichen nicht (korrekt) darstellen ? Nein, was er wohl meint ist, dass alle nicht-us-ascii Zeichen falsch dargestellt werden. da wir hier auf einer deutschen ML sind, können wir davon ausgehen, das der Standard-Zeichensatz ISO-8859-1 (Latin1) oder ISO-8859-15 (Latin9, mit euro) ist. Im Grunde kommt es aber aufs gleiche raus. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: iPodder wont start
Roger Creasy wrote: On 10/2/05, *Roger Creasy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/1/05, *Jules Dubois* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2005 20:36, Roger Creasy [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: OK. I do get the following: basement:/usr/bin# iPodder Traceback (most recent call last): File iPodderGui.py, line 22, in ? import wx ImportError: No module named wx However, this does not help me. Is there anyone out there who can help? In Sid, the Debian 'ipodder' package depends on 'python-wxgtk2.6'. Did you install ipodder from a Debian package and do you have the Python wxWidgets bindings? TIA You might also try 'gtkpod'. Yes, I installed the Debian package. I do not have 'python-wxgtk2.6' in my available list. I am running Sarge,; I tried Sid and my system crashed... so, I am afraid to add testing packaages, unless I must. I installed 'gtkpod' but it does not seem to have the ability to manage podccasts. Did I miss something? Roger sarge includes wxpython 2.4. that should work. if you search (e.g. in synaptic) for 'wx' you should find a result (called something like wxpython or python-wxgtk) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME other menu
Titus Barik wrote: Hi all, A long time ago, GNOME used to have an other menu or something similar in the 'start menu' that had non-gnome applications in the list. Sometime ago, this had dissapeared, and I'm wondering if there's a way to get it back. I'm running Debian unstable. Regards, How long ago are you talking about ? I do have an 'Other' menu, but it contains only Celestia (which I have installed in the gnome version) I believe the 'Other' menu is meant for gnome/gtk applications that don't fit into any of the other categories. For non-Gnome applications, I use the debian menu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: small characters on some windows, like OOo
Csanyi Pal wrote: Hello! Debian Sarge kernel-2.6.8 Window Maker I set up my X Window to have largers characters in some applications: ThoughTracker, URxvt, .. I edit for example the /etc/X11/app-defaults/URxvt-lite to get largers character in rxvt-unicode xterm window. I use too Switch to set up fonts size in some applications. Still, I have to small characters in menu for example in OpenOfficeorg window, or X-Chat window. Where should I set up more to get bigger characters in these windows? Thanks for any advices! xchat uses gtk+2, and there is a gtk+2 interface for openoffice (package name is summat like openoffice.org-gtk-gnome ). you can change the font size with switch2 (in package gtk-theme-switch). for gtk+ apps like XMMS use switch. mozilla firefox and thunderbird also use gtk+2, but do not seem to respect gtk font changes. I already filed bugs a while ago on this. If anyone else is expieriencing the problem, it might help if you aknoledge the bug in the BTS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing debian on home network
michael wrote: I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't find it in the archives so all pointers welcomed! I've a Debian box (2.6, unstable) connected to the Internet via USB Broadband modem (I'm in the UK). ie it's nto a router/modem but the mobo does have a network port. I've another box on which I wish to install Debian (again 2.6). I tried to use a netinst CD on this box but it hangs (with no indication of what is happening) after probing hardware. I guess this is when it's trying to detect a network (but why doesn't it fail then offer me to skip this step?); this happens with both linux26 and expert26 boot options. Suggestions on how to progress this (without writing numerous CDs!) most welcome... Thanks, Michael It shouldn't be the network. netinst images do not require a network connection before initial boot. bizcard images however do. I believe there already are testing ISOs... They currently probably are very unstable, but you may be in luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speicherplatz von User einschränken und Traffic überwachen?
Rene Sauerwein wrote: Hallo, kann mir wer ein Programm empfehlen, mit dem ich den Speicherplatz von User einschränken kann? Und eines das den Traffic nur von bestimmten Usern überwacht(z.B. alle einzelnen Vhosts)? Am Liebsten wäre mir ein Programm, dass beide Funktionen unterstützt, damit ich hierfür nicht 2 unterschiedliche Sachen brauche. Gruß Rene bitte keine html mails. danke. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: installing debian
steef wrote: hi all, a friend of mine asked me to install debian_sarge on his machine: with the netinstaller; for the first time. he is getting fed up with xp.he has got an empty hd on a usb-port. my question: does the installer recognizes: sees this usb_harddisk? or is this something for the bios opf his machine? it confuses me. he told me knoppix (something different from sarge) could see it). thanks, steef just try it. recognizing the hd during install is the installer's job, booting from/with it is the BIOS or grub's job. If you can sqash a /boot partition on an IDE drive, there should be no problems because then it would be the kernel's job, which should do it. you may have to install with 'linux26' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wie Verlaufspeicher in xterm löschen?
Patrick Wunderlich wrote: Hallo Leute, unter xterm kann ich mit clear den aktuellen screen löschen. Gibt es auch eine Möglichkeit bzw. einen Befehl den gesamten Verlausspeicher in xterm zu löschen? Grüsse, Patrick Wunderlich http://www.xkill.de der Verlaufspeicher wird von der shell (z.B. der bash) und nicht dem xterm verwaltet. welche shell verwendest du ? -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Help! - simple solution
The installer should have asked you if you want to install a Desktop Environment , Web Server etc. To get to that screen: log in. type su and press enter. type in your 'root' or admin password (you typed it in during install). you will become the *S*uper *U*ser type tasksel and press enter. now you can should select Desktop Environment for a graphical desktop, File Server if you want to share files over the network, Print Server if you wish to use a printer. if you wish to redo the complete second half of the installation ( which will not re-install anything ), type base-config instead of tasksel after installing a desktop environment, type /etc/init.d/gdm start or reboot the machine by typing reboot Debian GNU/Linux can be a bit hard on new users... so don't hesitate to ask here if you have a problem. and you might want to use more appropriate subjects lines that 'Help' ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing window managers
Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote: Sorry if the question is stupid, but: What is a session manager, and how does it get involved? THX AFAIK the session manager is a program that a) starts the programs of a desktop env (gnome needs nautilus,metacity,gnome-panel and maybe more) b) starts certain other programs (e.g. in gnome: recovers a session). for more detail : man xsm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wie weiter installieren?
Thomas Kosch wrote: On Sa, 2005-09-03 at 17:33 +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote: [...] Mit stable wirst du da Probleme bekommen. Du kannst zwar die Netinstall-CD für stable nehmen, nach dem reboot den Punkt mit der Paketinstallation überspringen (dann hast du ein nacktes base-system), in die source.list temporär unstable aufnehmen und dann den Kernel von dort installieren, aber der 2.6.12 braucht ein neueres udev und hotplug und das zieht dann locales lsb-base libc6 libselinux1 etc. hinterher. Und das willst du nicht. Wenn du etch nehmen willst dann nimm den daily-build der Netinstall-CD und mach es genauso wie oben (da brauchst du allerdings nur das udev aus sid, der Rest (libc6 etc.) ist mit sid identisch). Und dann machst du eben mit aptitude install xserver-xfree86 kdm kde (oder eben kdelibs kdebase etc.) weiter (natürlich nicht vergessen den neuen Kernel zu booten). und anstatt xserver-xfree86 x-window-system-core. das installiert X.org and zusätzliche Programme wie xset, xev, xvidtune, xorgconfig... -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: wie weiter installieren?
Thomas Kosch wrote: On Sa, 2005-09-03 at 18:36 +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: und anstatt xserver-xfree86 x-window-system-core. das installiert X.org Ja, du hast rech. Nein. X.org ist nicht in etch. ttyl8er, t.k. eben hast du noch von unstable geredet ;) -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: distcc problem - Gentoo client - Debian sarge server
Tony wrote: Attempting to speed up my laptop Pentium II emerges. Set up distcc as specified in the Gentoo guide: Bear in mind that this is a _debian_ list. Now, back to gentoo. I personally speeded up my emerges by switching to debian and apt-get. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeing a wierd behavior with Sarge, Gnome, Thunderbird, Firefox, and to an extent, KDE.
Andy Peed wrote: My problem is this: I would like to click on a link in a message I am reading in Thunderbird and have it opened in a Firefox browser window. (I'd prefer a new tab in an existing Firefox window, if there is one, but I'd settle for a new Firefox window.) However, any link I click on gets opened in Konqueror. In Gnome, I have specified Firefox as the preferred browser under Applications-Desktop Preferences-Advanced-Preferred Applications. with dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-thunderbird you can change the type of browser integration you want. If you select 'GNOME', Thunderbird uses the default gnome browser. If you select 'Debian' you have to adjust it with update-alternatives, as root, but I don't know the exact options ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Installation
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 23:43 schrieb EspaceAE8000: [...] Bei der installation von linux 9.1 hatte ich dieses problem nicht, der controller wurde erkannt. Du meinst SuSE Linux 9.1. Debian GNU/Linux kann mit ebensoviel Recht Linux genannt werden wie SuSE Linux auch. Daher ist die Angabe linux 9.1 für eine Version von SuSE Unsinn. Linux version bezieht sich immer auf den Betriebssystemkern. Dieser ist momentan erst bei Version 2.6.x. erst ist IMHO nicht der richtige Begriff. Die meisten freien Projekte benutzen, im Gegensatz zu kommerziellen (auch komm. freien) eine solche Versionierung, wo volle Versionen ein sehr großer Sprung ist. Debian ist eine der wenigen Linux-Distributionen, die sich daran halten. Bei den anderen gibt es eine Art Versionskrieg. Es ist erstaunlich, dass SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake und Slackware auf einmal bei Version 9 waren! Solche Megaversionen sind in der Welt freier Software eher ungewöhnlich, sieht man mal von Emacs ab Thomas [...] Viele Grüße Wolfgang -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: du
Klaus Becker wrote: n'Abend, ich möchte wissen, wieviel Platz ein bestimmter Ordner + Unterordner einnehmen, und war nach Grösse geordnet. Ich habe mit du erfolglos experimentiert, z.B. du -n /datei. Die Ordner werden zwar nach ihrer Grösse angezeigt, aber die Anzeigen nach KB und GB vermischen sich. Auch die Option | grep G ist nicht das Gelbe vom Ei, sie zeigt auch alle Unterordner an, die ein G enthalten. Mit xdu komme ich nicht zurecht, es zeigt im linken Feld nur /, egal welchen Ordner ich xdu vorgebe, und das rechte Feld immer immer leer. tschüs Klaus du -ms * | sort -n -m heißst MB und kann durch -b (bytes) oder -k (KB) ersetzt werden. -s heißt keine Unterordner. sort -n sortiert numerisch Mfg, Thomas Jollans -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: du
Sören Wengerowsky wrote: Am Montag, 3. Januar 2005 20:41 schrieb Elimar Riesebieter: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 the mental interface of Klaus Becker told: n'Abend, ich möchte wissen, wieviel Platz ein bestimmter Ordner + Unterordner einnehmen, und war nach Grösse geordnet. $ du -sh * | sort -n $ du -sk * | sort -n .. man du(1) man sort(1) Bei sort -n sortiert er numerisch. Das heißt, 1GB wird vor 2KB kommen.. Das ist ja gerade das Problem, was Klaus hat. Das geht nur ordentlich, wenn das -h bei du weggelassen wird. Bei -sk geht es. Was mich interessieren würde, ist, was diese Option -n bei du eigentlich macht...? In meiner `man du` steht die nicht drin.. Gruß Sören du: invalid option -- n Try `du --help' for more information. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
