Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???
On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Mike wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote: The package management system is largest reason, why I use Debian. and its the largest reason why I use RedHat. Would you care to substantiate this so that we might have some intelligent comment from both sides? -Greg Mildenhall(Running perfectly-stable Hamm) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: smail upgrade, machine no longer accepts mail
On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Michael B. Taylor wrote: I recently upgraded my smail to the new version (from 'stable', not the deep frozen stuff) and my machine stopped accepting mail. I think I found the cause. I found this in /etc/inetd.conf # smtpstream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.smtpd (will be restored by smail postinst) Uncommenting this line and rebooting put me back in business. I guess the smail postinstall script forgot to restore it. OUCH!! inetd will reread /etc/inetd.conf if you send it a HUP signal: #killall -HUP `pidof inetd` You certainly don't need to reboot the machine :) I (and others) had reported this bug to the maintainer some time ago, and just today I got a message saying it had been fixed. Hopefully noone will have to worry about this in future. -Greg Mildenhall( 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..
On Mon, 11 May 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Mon, 11 May 1998, The Thought Assassin wrote: : On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: : I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only. The current Debian : boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead. : Boot floppies are very customizable. The problem is with init on the boot disk, not the kernel. Can't you doctor the boot disk to use the serial port instead of tty1? Are the sparc bootdisks that different from all the others? -Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to organize NFS server?
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris R. Martin wrote: I have an old 486 with a few hard drives in it that I want to use as a server. I'd like to store debian-packaged apps such as gcc, x11, xemacs etc on the server, yet keep some functionality on my local drive so I don't need the server all the time. what is the best way to do this under debian? I thought of exporting/mounting /usr on the server, but will that cause major problems? What if I have a local /usr directory? Will I still be able to access it when not using the server? if you move /usr, you won't have functionality on your local drive Personally, I'd move /usr/X11, because that's where the big heavy stuff is, and none of it is essential /usr/local as well, if you have anything there. To make it work properly, install packages on the server first, then install the same package on the client, with the directories mounted. Also, what does the group think about using a /apps directory instead of /usr ? I know it's not filesystem standard, but it seems this might get around a lot of problems of mounting /usr remotely. I'd say a lot more trouble than it's worth. Really, that is what /usr/local is for. Things that are not integrated into your system to the point that they need to go in /usr/bin might be seen as a general rule-of-thumb for what is in /usr/local. If you have a big app like Staroffice or Applixware, it will probably be in /usr/local, if it is not in /usr/X11. Well, actually, /local usually means local to the machine but in practise, it meant the above. btw I have about 500MB of local space and up to 4GB on the server. More than enough. I should definitely say that the above would work well, especially since I have done it with 170 / 540 before :) 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only. The current Debian boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead. Now I've got this Netra Linux box :) Is there any reason why you can't just take the kernel from the RedHat boot floppy and put it on the Debian boot floppy? Or even build a custom kernel from your RedHat install and put that on the debian floppy. Boot floppies are very customizable. 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Masq and users
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Breathnach, Proinnsias (Dublin) wrote: Anyway what I need is to ask all users connecting (from any of the client machines (2 * W95, 1 * Linux) to 'login' before they're allowed net access (mainly for monitoring - who's running up the usage bill etc.) Is there an easy way to do this ?, the HOWTO doesn't seem to mention requiring passwords for access, but I might have missed it ! There are numerous ways of doing this, but I want to tell you about an interesting project I was involved at at the local highschool. The highschool was a little different in that SAMBA filesharing was an essential part of our setup, but other than that, it was an IP-Masquerading ppp Gateway. Each user had a home directory on the server, which they could mount from any of the workstations using samba. now the smbd (which accepts the samba connections)has an option to run a script, either as that user, or as the superuser, when a particular shared directory is mounted, and this script can be given the IP address of the calling machine, and the username of the client as arguments. So I used this script to trigger the appropriate ipfwadm commands when the user mounted his or her home directory, and a similar script was run when the user unmounted the home directory, which would undo each of the rules applied previously, and store the results of the accounting rule. Seemed to work quite well once some of the client-side bugs were ironed out, and if, or anyone, wants a hand with setting such a system up, I'd be glad to hear from you. -7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A funny little mistake
On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Thomas J. Malloy wrote: mv thefile.tar.gz /~ . Now I have a 800k file named ~ on / . I tried to mv ~ normalfilename and this does create a normal file, but the ~ file still exists. If I try to rm ~ the system thinks I want to delete my home directory. prefacing the '~' with a backslash ('\') ought to do the trick. the backslash is the shell's delimiting character, and the shell will not try to expand anything directly after a backslash. so mv \~ newname 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A funny little mistake
On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, The Thought Assassin wrote: the backslash is the shell's delimiting character, and the shell will not try to expand anything directly after a backslash. This is the best thing to try first - although I have seen some things that even this won't work on. Chris Such as what? -Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PINE Debian Package
If we distribute a binary package that consists of the original source, the debian patches, and an installation script that patches, compiles, and installs, then surely we are not distributing a patched binary? Users are patching it for themselves :) Alternately, we could just make it an installer packae that says please have orig,patch.dsc in /usr/src, just like the netscape installer says please have netscape.tgz in $TMPDIR, and give explanations, or even automations, on how to get it there. Well, that is my suggestion, and I am fairly confident that there should be a way to slip it or something like it past UW's license. On a side issue, doesn't anyone use elm? Are there reasons why it is all mutt vs. pine? On a freshly installed system that I have not downloaded pine onto, I usually use elm. I can't see any disadvantages of elm, at least on the surface, and it seems a little more extensible than pine (no doubt due to licensing :) I am considering whether I should just switch to it so I can stop supporting retentives like UW. (The observant will notice I am writing this in pine :) -Greg Mildenhall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux cannot find NE-2000 network card
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Hans Ehrbar wrote: But when I boot the machine it says: Network is unreachable Can you send the outputs of ifconfig and route -n These will show what your situation/problem is. 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using tix AND Blt with hamm system! HELP
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Cormac McGuinness wrote: Now, after upgrading to hamm on one machine, it appears that tix41 requires tk8.0, but blt4.2 (actually BLT v2.3) requires tk4.2 ... A raw 'hamm' install will not fully support BLT. You will have to upgrade to the latest 'bacon' snapshot, and make sure that you have BLT-compliant version of the lettuce and tomato packages. Without these three important packages, your system will be toast. 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking.
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote: Well for what it is worth my own opinion is that 95 just like its forbears is an app. loaded on dos No. A program becomes an operating system when it installs it's own interrupt servicing routies. Win95 does this, and though it kicks back to DOS's interrupt handlers for some things, it does this via calls from it's own handlers. DOS is merely used as a boot loader, and windows seems to forget to unload it. and for this reason I think we should be talking about whether or not dos is a true multi-tasking OS ... It certainly is capable of becoming one. There is nothing to talk about. DOS is not a multitasking OS, and it cannot become on without a major rewrite, (such as win95, which is a poorly implemented, but nevertheless true multitasking OS) at which point, we can't really call it DOS. The question is, has it been implemented? Yes, they rewrote DOS and called it windows. it multitasks, but it isn't DOS. (It does use DOS as a boot loader) 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NiC Cards
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote: have any AUI port on any of mine, as Nathan does. Does the 3c59x module exist in /lib/modules/2.0.x/net? If not compile it as a module, install it and reboot. No, the whole point of it being a module is that you can just use insmod to insert it, and you won't have to reboot at all. 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is X breaking my monitor?
On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Will Lowe wrote: Every few minutes, the screen wavers a little -- like it was made of jelly and someone's shaking in just the slightest bit. Is this a monitor problem, or is my video card going, or have aliens changed the properties of the local space-time continuum? Check for new sources of electromagnetic radiation that might have been introduced to the vicinity. Speakers, motors, toasters, UFOs... -Greg Mildenhall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP dies early / some progress
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Erik van der Meulen wrote: I have made some progress towards solving the problem. It turns out that my machine insisted on having the IP address for the session with my ISP, which is used as address for the serial device on incoming connections. I have defined this in my /etc/ppp/options.ttyS0. If I remove that entry, the connection gets established. Now I have to find a way to use the serial interface for both incoming and outgoing connections. Any ideas? Changing it manually:) Well, perhaps setting up something that will do this when you switch modes. If you remove that file, you can explicitly name the IP address when you start ppp for an incoming connection. ppp also has the ability to suggest an IP address, but to accept whatever the remote demands. An incoming box should listen to the suggestion, whereas your ISP will override it. Unfortunately, after this not all is well. After pppd exchanges IP addresses, it reports something like: ppp not replacing default route to eth0[192.168.1.255] This is my network board. So I am still not talking to the world. Your box thinks that it can reach the world via your ethernet card. Shatter it's illusions. Somewhere in the bootscripts, you will have a route add default gw line which you don't want. Then you will have no default gateway, and ppp won't think twice about setting your ISP up as your gateway. 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP dies early / some progress
On 16 Apr 1998, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, after this not all is well. After pppd exchanges IP addresses, it reports something like: ppp not replacing default route to eth0[192.168.1.255] In remove the default gateway line in /etc/init.d/network Better not to remove it altogether, just comment it out. And perhaps delete the right hand side, to prevent confusion. #GATEWAY= will do fine. 7~he 7~hought /|ssassin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reverse DNS lookup at telnet
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Scott D. Killen wrote: I run a server with Debian 1.3.1 installed. This machine is set up as an internet gateway to a 3 bit subnet. Diald is installed for automatic dialup internet connections. My machine runs a caching name server that the machines on the subnet use as a nameserver. The problem is that when I telnet from a machine on the subnet, the server does a reverse lookup of the connecting machine's IP address, but it can't answer it's own request so the Internet link goes up. This makes telnet connections very slow... especially if the dialup connection doesn't work. How can I solve this problem? I want to either stop doing reverse lookups when answering telnet requests, or, ideally, I want to set up bind so it can answer reverse lookups for addresses on my subnet What you appear to want is for your machine to be the primary DNS for reverse lookups on your ISP's subnet (reverse lookups are delegated in no finer granularity then 8bit blocks if I am not very much mistaken) when the link is down, and for it to be a secondary when the link is up. If this is indeed what you want, then use /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down to effect this change. -Greg Mildenhall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get dir colors to work?
ls --color=auto will do it. man ls On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, johannes martinez wrote: What files does one have to edit to get ls to display colors? And as a total aside, how do you get xdm working? It says starting xdm at the end of my boot but all i get is a nice console prompt. johannes martinez
Re: How to uninitialise partition?
If your old drive was for DOS, does DOS see the partition anymore? For example, is there still a C: but it's unreadable (Invalid Media), or is there just no C:? I've accidently been in a fdisk (I think it was linux) and deleted one of my DOS partitions on accident, and got REALLY lucky because I booted off a DOS bootdisk and ran fdisk and re-created the partition of exactly the same size before and all my files (FAT and all) were still there. I ran scandisk and lost 4096 (one block) somewhere, but I just disregarded it and counted my lucky stars. If there is a C: (all this time assuming you old files were on C:) and it says Invalid Media or something like that, try UNFORMAT.EXE - maybe you were lucky and there was a image on the disk (a duplicate of the FAT table) that's still there (I know that lately some programs make a duplication of the fat table - Win95's command.com does I think. How do I know? One time I was using partition magic and it said that my duplicate FAT had inconstancies with my real one. Weird..) Anyway, I'm not sure exactly how far linux's 'initialization' process goes... Just some things to try.. On Sun, 23 Mar 1997, Nick Cropper wrote: Help! During a long and complicated floppy installation (trouble due to DOS's fdisk -- not debian) I managed to initialise my old harddisk (containing all my files) instead of my new one. It was just an initialisation (no surface/low-level scan) which is why I'm still holding a glimmer of hope that someone can suggest a retrieval trick. Is there any way to access the files that were on that partition? thanks, Nick Cropper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chmodding a whole directory tree
How do I make a whole directory tree and it's files readable by everyone? I can't just chmod -R a+r dir because then they won't be able to cd to the directories, but I can't chmod -R a+rx dir because then all the files will be executable... Is there a way to make the directories +x without making all the files +x? Or better yet is there a way to copy the owner's permissions to the group and other's permissions? Thanks
dpkg and shadow
Hi all, it's me again. First off thanks for the numerous replies to my chmodding question :) Is there a way to make dpkg give me a list (output) of ALL the packages (installed and not installed) along with their descriptions? Even just the short one-liner descriptions? The reason I'm asking is because occasionally I want to search for some type of package by a keyword but I think that the / command in dselect only searches the package filename. I wanted to do something like % dpkg --print-all-descriptions-etc | grep -i shadow or something... Maybe I could go to the /var/lib/usr/local/bin/hoopdeha/dpkg/debian/wherever and do a grep -i shadow **/* ? I dunno... Oh, that reminds me of another question, but I'll keep it civilized for now :) ... Ok, here's another question about shadow.. I got the following files: shadow-passwd_960810-1_i386.deb shadow-login_960810-1_i386.deb shadow-su_960810-1_i386.deb and used dpkg to install them, and everything works fine, but will I ever need /etc/adduser.conf or /usr/sbin/adduser or /usr/sbin/addgroup again? Or should I just delete them? Shadow came with replacements for all of these, like useradd and groupadd etc, right? (I can't remember where to find a list of all the files those packages made...) ... Here's a quick question: Why is my /home g+s staff? drwxrwsr-x 4 root staff1024 Mar 19 23:05 /home/ ... Here's another quick question: I have an Iomega Zip drive, and occasionally I get the message: sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda4 when mounting. Is there a command out there somewhere to write protect/unprotect disks? And why is it sda4 instead of sda1? (Ooops, I guess that's two questions!) ... Oh, I'd just like to mention that setting up tty-snoops to automatically snoop ttyp1 on tty7 (virtual console 7) all the way through ttyp6/tty12 is REALLY handy! I can spy on peoples with a press of a buttons! :) ... One of the main reasons I'm using zsh is because I love it's command completion and expansion behaviour, for example, **/* for every directory and subdirectory and everything within. I often use grep something **/*. My question is, is there a way to either remove the actual directories from the listing, or mute the grep: blah: Is a directory message? Or better yet, is there a program that will search my whole disk (or at least all the data in a directory tree) for a word(s)? Lately I've just been saying grep something **/* | more; so that all the grepped stuff will end up at the bottom and not mixed in with the grep: blah: Is a directory message. ... Anyway, that's it for today.Well, for this morning at least... Well untill I reboot, okay?? :) Thanks again everyone
Re: Possible problems with lists.debian.org
m lunch.. er, um, sorry. my route there has been stable all morning... . o (man, I'm hungry now!) On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Pete Templin wrote: Debianers, It's possible that there are problems with debian.novare.net, aka lists.debian.org. It's also possible that I'm just losing it, or that my employer's internet route to that site is out to lunch. I've contacted someone at novare.net, and I'll pass word along as I find out more. -- Pete Templin, Debian List Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = BD 9D 90 1C 8D 6D CA 21 D7 0F 2D C6 29 93 A6 1E
Re: Chmodding a whole directory tree
Obviously most people here either are Linux EXPERTS or they have *WAY* too much time on their hands! Hehehehe just kidding :) chmod a+rX actually worked quite nicely. I know I know it may not do the exact same thing as writing a script to do it, but sheesh! :) On 20 Mar 1997, Graeme Stewart wrote: Thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I make a whole directory tree and it's files readable by everyone? I can't just chmod -R a+r dir because then they won't be able to cd to the directories, but I can't chmod -R a+rx dir because then all the files will be executable... Is there a way to make the directories +x without making all the files +x? Or better yet is there a way to copy the owner's permissions to the group and other's permissions? Thanks You might try something like this: #! /bin/bash for direc in `find . -type d` ; do chmod $direc a+rx done for file in `find . -type f` ; do chmod $file a+r done Graeme -- | Graeme A Stewart, pgp public key finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Key fingerprint = AF C7 BF A4 52 D5 3C 3B 17 A5 62 43 DA 15 E8 97 | | Keep a good head, and always carry a lightbulb. Dylan |
Re: XWindows .deb package for debian gnu linux
I'd like to know where to get a base, self explainatory, do-it-all-at-once XWindows installation too. Right now I only have the base zsh and virtual-console interface going, but I kinda want to install X as well... As for the partition problem, I'm not sure if you really need a swap file at all. I am running Debian 1.2 on my P166 w/ 64M RAM without a swap file at all. I just have one 400meg partition. I've had the system up for about 40 hours now, doing various things on it, and here's my memory stats: [9:10:02]/root# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 63100 27516 35584 4480 19060 4668 -/+ buffers: 3788 59312 Swap:0 0 0 [9:10:03]/root# So if you're not planning on being a network server or anything, I don't think having a swap file would be that necessary. However, if you still want one, doesn't a more recent version of DOS FDISK (e.g. Win95) allow more than 2 logical drives? I thought it would let you just delete your E: and make a new E: and F: drives. (Man, grammar with drive letters is though stuff!) And if it doesn't, I'm not sure if linux fdisk will or not. In either case, deleting E: shouldn't have an effect on C: or D:. It's just a question of how many logical drives will the programs allow you to have. You might also want to check out a program called Partition Magic - it's a retail DOS program that allows you to resize partitions, change drive letters, clone partitions, and even change the FATs, from FAT to FAT32 for example. It also supports Ext2, OS/2, and HPFS systems. ... Oh, and I fear for the people who have to read this, because the lines were too long on my screen BEFORE I quoted (and were being wrapped) - now they have a in front of them - I'm curious to know what kind of mess it'll make :) On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Paulo Gustavo Raymundo Silva wrote: Hi . . . I'm potential Debian GNU/Linux user and I have some questions no covered by this FAQ. I would like to get some information about where I could find the XWIndows files for the newest version of the Debian linux (probably X11 R6.3) in the deselect .deb distribuition pack. Following the Debian GNU/Linux instructions I just got to generate the 6 instalations disks with the Kernel and the Base .deb Pack. I looked for the X11 in the debian.org ftp site and didn't had sucess to find the X11 .deb pack, I just encoutered several programs and utilities (e.g. FVWM, OLWM, Xclock, ...). I also have a doubt about the instalation process. My PC is Pentium 100 MHz / 32 MB / HD 2.1 Gb with a 504 Mb WIN95 active(bootable) primary partition and a extended partition with two DOS logical drives (D: with 1.0 Gb and E: with 504 Mb). The logical partition E: was created to be used with Linux, and C: D: will continue to be used with WIN95 (I expect that Debian Linux will instal any kind of Master Boot Record program loadable at startup that will ask what Operating System (WIN95 or Linux) will be loaded).However, the instalation instructions say that linux requires two partitions: a 16-128 Mb swapp file partition and the real linux self partition, both marked in partition table as UNIX partitions. These instructions also say that the instalation program will ask if there are two partitions like those at the HD and iff the answer is NO the linux partition program (like DOS FDISK) will create them. I would like to know if is possible to transform the second DOS logical drive at the extended partition (E: 504Mb) in two new UNIX logical drives (e.g. 64 Mb 440 Mb) at the same extended partition where previously there was a logial DOS drive (D: 1 Gb), at the same Western Digital EIDE HD with a previously defined DOS primary partition (C: 504 MB) with no data loss.If your answer is No, where can I encouter a DOS based program that modifies the partition table with no data loss at the partitons not modified (I my case, is necessary to delete drive E:, create two new Unix logical drives in this region and to keep unchanged The C: and D: partition information and disk structure). Thank's in advance by these informations . . . Paulo Gustavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chmodding a whole directory tree
The chmod a+rX did exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Re: the warez dudez won't leave me alone...
If you have a Dynamic IP assigned each time you log on, then most likely someone else on your ISP ran or is running a FTP site, and his site was advertized somewhere. I doubt it has anything to do with your wu-ftpd. Note: Previous version of wu-ftpd have been known to have security holes, but I still don't think that they could smell that you were running it and trying to break in... On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Richard Morin wrote: Hi folks just wanted to pass along my suprise that the warez doodz have been trying to get into my *home* machine which is only connected via dialup ppp, and get this I use a dynamic ip. Here is just some of the attempts... Mar 17 19:52:02 joanrich wu-ftpd[788]: failed login from lis1_p16.telepac.pt [194.65.11.242], mac Mar 18 11:52:29 joanrich wu-ftpd[1421]: failed login from ppp-d1-76.orci.com [206.168.154.76], mac ...and 4 more from this guy. Mar 18 11:53:42 joanrich wu-ftpd[1426]: failed login from ppp-47.ts-8..nyc.idt.net [169.132.98.191], mac and 8 from this guy... Mar 18 13:04:43 joanrich wu-ftpd[1647]: failed login from mas01-10.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.33.11], mac Mar 18 13:06:10 joanrich wu-ftpd[1648]: failed login from ppp-24.ts-4.la.idt.net [206.20.223.24],mac Mar 19 23:27:04 joanrich wu-ftpd[3617]: failed login from 206.230.175.91 [206.230.175.91], mac Mar 19 23:33:29 joanrich wu-ftpd[3628]: failed login from ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu [128.205.100.2],mac ...this guy was persistent, about 8 tries with different id, mac, Mac, warez and so on... Just thought I'd pass this along to others like me who might have wu-ftpd on their system to learn about it. I've not yet had time to think much about it till now. I guess this means that somehow someone has listed my machine on a warez list eh?? Kinda funny in a mosquito like way. Can I leave these kidz a nice message somehow?? Richard Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There are two major products to come out of Berekley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Haahaaahaaheeho..
Re: Sound
Correct me modify as needed. :) Ok, I'll try :) The other problem I have currently is with sound. I have a Sound Blaster 16 which is usually on Address 220, IRQ 5, DMA's 1 5, 330 for Midi, etc. I've read the Sound-HowTo document, and downloaded the VoxWare Sound drivers 2.5, but not had much luck so far. The installation instructions aren't that helpful. One would assume that I'm going to have to rebuild the kernel, etc, so where can I find a copy of the source for it? Do I already have it but I don't realise it? You probably don't already have it if you didn't choose to install it, but you can check /usr/src/linux anyway. (If /usr/src/linux is there, then you have it.) If you don't have it, you can get it using the dselect program. It's under kernel-source-2.0.27: Opt develkernel-sourc 2 2 Linux kernel source. I don't know if there's a stable version with debian past 2.0.27, but my dselect still says 2.0.27 and I just updated it from ftp.cdrom.com today. Anyway, once you get/have it, cd /usr/src/linux; and type 'make menuconfig'. If that doesn't work, then you don't have ncurses installed, and type 'make config' instead. (All without the little 'quotes' too.) This will let you only compile in what you need, and it will get rid of the time consuming searching for all that hardware you don't have. You can also install audio support. (Make sure to install /dev/audio support! If you don't, you'll have a lot of problems. (I overlooked /dev/audio and just went directly with SB16 only, and I had a headache - you have to install them both) Once you're done with make [menu]config, type: make dep; make clean; make zImage; I'm not sure what to do with zImage, because I don't use loadlin. I guess ask someone else about that. (with LILO you just type make zlilo instead) Help! Maybe I should've used the copy of UNIX System V release 4 in the attic, 'cause we've got stacks of books... but this is more fun! :) Naaa. Reformatting is GOOD for you! I've successfully got LOADLIN working now anyway, which should stop me constantly changing the MBR to swap operating systems. Phew. Can one assume that if I rebuild the kernel I will have to copy it across again? Why use loadlin? LILO is much better.. I don't know anything about loadlin, but I know that if you use lilo you won't ever have to fiddle with MBRs again. And finally... on bootup it's still looking for all kinds of hardware that I don't have, and I read somewhere about how to remove it... can I assume that since I may have to rebuild the kernel to get sound support, then the other hardware support is in there too, i.e. a rebuild will get rid of it? Yep. Cheers. Have fun, RtB. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:2500/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Security Issue
If someone else owns the directory that the file is in, then they basically own the file allocation table and can rename the file to anything they want, or remove the filename alltogether. It's basically like they own the filecabinet, and the other person's file is in the cabinet. Even though they may have a lock on the file so that nobody can read it, the person who owns the cabinet can throw out the file. Isn't that how it should be? On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote: I'm not sure if this is normal, but it seems that any file owned by someone else and in one of my directories can be deleted by me even if I don't have the proper permissions to do so. I also can rename the file, but I can't alter the file. This holds true even if the file is owned by root. Is this normal ? If so, what things can I do to someone elses file thats in one of my directories , just delete or rename the file ? As root, what if I want to keep a file in someones directory without them deleteing it ? As I see it now, that can't be done ?!?!? Matthew
Re: SVGATextMode?
Why do you want to run SVGATextMode anyway? I ran it once and it was more trouble than it's worth. The only good of it is to make more lines on the screen, and you can set your kernel vidmode to EXT for that (50 line mode) On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Bjoern Starke wrote: Hello, where to find a good HOWTO or FAQ for SVGATextMode? I have read the manpages and found them very unintelligible and userunfriendly. Has anyone running a S3 Graphics 2001 (Stealth Dram 64) running with it and can mail me his TextConfig file to have a look at it? Thanksbjoern
Re: Program to randomize lines of text file
Just go ask a friend who knows some basic C to write a program to do that for you. I could do it in less than 10 lines of code most likely On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Gandalf wrote: Does anyone know of a script or binary that randomly output the lines of a text file, i.e its usage would be prog file - lines of file output in random order -Walter
Re: testing tonight
What's wrong with ASCII art? Just don't waste the time scrolling down to read it... Thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zipcon.net/thought/imain.html _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Pure Energy wrote: [annoying ASCII art .sig Bobbitted] Say adren, Are you a regular on alt.fan.warlord or something? Lose the nasty art. A full page .sig is a bit excessive, don't you think? Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not | and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. |--Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: /bin/sh != /bin/bash ? [was Re: zsh vs bash]
Maybe either the scripts are so old that they were never updated when newer shells besides bash came out, or maybe they assumed that all newer shells would be bash-compatible, or maybe the people who wrote them are just stupid :) Not everyone's a genius you know :) On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Steve wrote: I set my system shell to zsh as well, and replaced all the /bin/bash in /etc/passwd to /usr/bin/zsh, but when I tried to move /bin/sh to point to /usr/bin/zsh, all of the /etc/init.d/* scripts blew up. If those scripts actually require bash then why isn't the first line #!/bin/bash? Is this a bug, or is it written in stone that /bin/sh and /bin/bash are equivalent?
Woah, check this out:
Woah, check this out: I just installed Debian a couple days ago, and 'thought' is my first user with UID 1000 and GID 1000. Look at what I found when I was poking around: [21:35:35]/etc# find / -gid 1000 /usr/doc/procmail/HISTORY.gz /usr/doc/procmail/README.gz /usr/doc/procmail/FAQ.gz /usr/doc/procmail/FEATURES.gz /usr/man/man8/pppstats.8.gz /usr/man/man8/chat.8.gz /usr/man/man8/pppd.8.gz /usr/man/man1/pon.1.gz /var/catman/cat1/newgrp.1.gz /proc/244 /proc/285 /home/thought /home/thought/.lynxrc /home/thought/.zhistory [21:35:58]/etc# All of those files have GID 1000 ??? Look: [21:37:40]/etc# l /usr/doc/procmail total 19 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Mar 6 21:05 ./ drwxr-xr-x 102 root root 2048 Mar 10 01:02 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 thought thought 4199 Apr 10 1995 FAQ.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 thought thought 1887 Sep 27 1994 FEATURES.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 thought thought 5982 Oct 31 1994 HISTORY.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Mar 6 21:05 README.DEBIAN - ../copyright/procmail -rw-r--r-- 1 thought thought 2817 Dec 22 1994 README.gz [21:37:44]/etc# Why in the WORLD would stuff in /usr/doc/procmail have uid/gid 1000?? The first file I noticed with gid 1000 was /etc/cron.daily/ppp Just interesting is all. I'm going to chown all of them right now! :)
Re: ps/2 mouse woes
I have a PS/2 mouse (Go ASUS! :) too. Why don't you just install psaux and Support for mouse (Not serial mice) fully instead of installing as modules? But if you really want to, you should just be able to make config and put psaux back in as a module and then make dep;make clean;make zimage;make modules;make modules_install etc... On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Michael Stoia wrote: HELP!!! I am a veteran Slackware Linux user, but I recently decided to wipe Slackware out and go with Debian. I decided to recompile the kernel myself with support for PS/2 mice. In addition to that I deleted the psaux module that Debian installed. I didn't think both would be needed. Well now my mouse does not work with gpm or X-Free86. How can I get the psaux module again without re-installing all of Debian's modules. I would really appreciate any advice. It is miserable having an OSÂ without a mouse. Mike ++ Michael Stoia ERC Computing Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++
Re: maximum mount count
Can you just 'touch /fastboot' to ignore that? On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Martin Stromberg wrote: Hi, I need to reboot my PC once or twice a day. Lately, I had a boot message displaying '/dev/hda3 has reached the maximum mount count. Checked forced' I found no option to deselect this mount count check in the mount man pages. Does anybody knows ? If it's an ext2 file system then you are looking for tune2fs -i 0. Regards, JP L Ho-hum, MartinS
Chmod
What does chmodding a directory u+s do? And why is /floppy chmod g+s?
Re: zsh vs bash
I set my system shell to zsh as well, and replaced all the /bin/bash in /etc/passwd to /usr/bin/zsh, but when I tried to move /bin/sh to point to /usr/bin/zsh, all of the /etc/init.d/* scripts blew up. Most of their scripting is done in bash format, so unless you want to either make zsh bash-compatible before running the scripts, or you want to rewrite every script made for bash, I'd just leave /bin/sh pointing to /usr/bin/bash (I moved my /bin/bash to /usr/bin/bash just for consistancy...) Just a newbie's opinion :) On 12 Mar 1997, Tomislav Vujec wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James W. Lynch) writes: This subject brings up a question I've had for a long time. Bash appears to be the shell that I get when I log in as root or do an su command. I'm from the old school and prefer vi editing of commands, but I have yet to be able to make bash use vi as root. I've set EDITOR and FCEDIT. I've set editing-mode vi. I can't seem to get root to use anything but emacs editing mode. Is this a diabolical plot by the Linux developers to force emacs on the world? 8^) Bash works as expected, described and designed when I'm a normal user. Can I do it? How? I use vi as a root, and vi editing mode, but in zsh. Yes my root shell is zsh. Now days when zsh runs autoconf configure scripts I am even thinking to put it for /bin/sh instead of bash... heard that zsh developers do that. P.S. As a normal user I use xemacs, but of course in viper mode :-) -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...
Well what would be a good subject then?
Please if you have time just skim this message and maybe you can show off your knowledge :) 1) Is there a way to turn on Numlock by default, or better yet, to prevent it from being turned off? My BIOS sets Numlock to ON when I boot, but when I load the kernel (with lilo) it turns numlock off. :( Is there a way to make it leave it on, or to turn it back on on all my Virtual TTYs? (I've put the setleds command in /etc/init.d/ but that only effects the first Virtual Console, even when I set the 'defaults') 2) Currently I have 6 Virtual Console lines in my inittab, but I've heard that there's a way to only have one of those lines, and to be able to create Virtual Consoles on demand by pressing Alt-Uparrow or something. Is there a way to do this? It seems kind of pointless to have six gettys running when I'm only using 2, and it's a pain when I am using up all 6 VCs and need more. 3) Speaking of Alt-Uparrow, is this the same thing as 'kbrequest' in inittab, and why doesn't either of them work? Is there a way I can bind keys to make initd do commands? 4) Is there a way to disable the Visual-Bell? A lot of my programs (like less) have options to turn off the bell, but they say If your console has a Visual Bell, it will be used instead. Well that stupid flashing is even more annoying than the bell I'm trying to get rid of! :) Is there a way to disable the Visual Bell? 5) I just installed shadow-login_960810, shadow-passwd_960810, and shadow-su_960810 on my system. Everything works fine, but I was wondering if there was any way to customize 'login'. For one, if you have a 'login incorrect' (coz of misspelt names or wrong passwords or wahtever) it take about 3 very annoying seconds to retry. Is there a way to make it ask for a new login: immediately instead of waiting? I'm guessing that the pause is a 'feature' to deter password guessers from breaking in, but I think it's just annoying and would rather have it turned off. 6) Another login question: my host name is res154002.wsu.edu because I'm living in a dorm, and whenever I get the login prompt it always says res154002 login:. Well, I know this is just being picky, but is there a way to make it not say res154002? It looks really tacky. I'd rather it just say login:. Is there a place where I can get the source for a 'login' with shadow capability so I can just edit all these options in a config.h or something? Ok, well that's all the questions I can think of for now... I've asked other questions on this list and have gotten friendly responses - thanks! I've gotten all my modules in a basket and am using zsh now :) Oh, and a note to people thinking of converting shells: if you switch to zsh and think of switching your /bin/sh link to zsh instead of bash, you'll get a bunch of errors when running /etc/init.d/rc, so don't do it! hehe, I had that problem today and got a bunch of /etc/init.d/rc: no such file or directory errors or something like that... Later Gators!
A young girl lost her puppy
Hi Debians, so the subject line got your attention huh? I figured if I titled this message Stupid Questions nobody would pay attention. But now that you're here, here's some simple questions to keep you on your toes! :) 1) Is there a way to turn on Numlock by default, or better yet, to prevent it from being turned off? My BIOS sets Numlock to ON when I boot, but when I load the kernel (with lilo) it turns numlock off. :( Is there a way to make it leave it on, or to turn it back on on all my Virtual TTYs? (I've put the setleds command in /etc/init.d/ but that only effects the first Virtual Console, even when I set the 'defaults') 2) Currently I have 6 Virtual Console lines in my inittab, but I've heard that there's a way to only have one of those lines, and to be able to create Virtual Consoles on demand by pressing Alt-Uparrow or something. Is there a way to do this? It seems kind of pointless to have six gettys running when I'm only using 2, and it's a pain when I am using up all 6 VCs and need more. 3) Speaking of Alt-Uparrow, is this the same thing as 'kbrequest' in inittab, and why doesn't either of them work? Is there a way I can bind keys to make initd do commands? 4) Is there a way to disable the Visual-Bell? A lot of my programs (like less) have options to turn off the bell, but they say If your console has a Visual Bell, it will be used instead. Well that stupid flashing is even more annoying than the bell I'm trying to get rid of! :) Is there a way to disable the Visual Bell? 5) I just installed shadow-login_960810, shadow-passwd_960810, and shadow-su_960810 on my system. Everything works fine, but I was wondering if there was any way to customize 'login'. For one, if you have a 'login incorrect' (coz of misspelt names or wrong passwords or wahtever) it take about 3 very annoying seconds to retry. Is there a way to make it ask for a new login: immediately instead of waiting? I'm guessing that the pause is a 'feature' to deter password guessers from breaking in, but I think it's just annoying and would rather have it turned off. 6) Another login question: my host name is res154002.wsu.edu because I'm living in a dorm, and whenever I get the login prompt it always says res154002 login:. Well, I know this is just being picky, but is there a way to make it not say res154002? It looks really tacky. I'd rather it just say login:. Is there a place where I can get the source for a 'login' with shadow capability so I can just edit all these options in a config.h or something? Ok, well that's all the questions I can think of for now... I've asked other questions on this list and have gotten friendly responses - thanks! I've gotten all my modules in a basket and am using zsh now :) Oh, and a note to people thinking of converting shells: if you switch to zsh and think of switching your /bin/sh link to zsh instead of bash, you'll get a bunch of errors when running /etc/init.d/rc, so don't do it! hehe, I had that problem today and got a bunch of /etc/init.d/rc: no such file or directory errors or something like that... Later Gators!
Re: Installing a new kernel....
I just had this problem 2 days ago :) After playing around with everyone's responses, here's what finally worked: cd /usr/src/linux rm -r /lib/modules/* make config make dep make clean make zlilo make modules make modules_install /sbin/depmod -a pico /etc/modules Commented out all the lines in /etc/modules I didn't need anymore, which happened to be all of them You might want to move /lib/modules/* to another directory instead of deleting them (I tried just renaming the directory 2.0.27 to 2.0.27.old, but it didn't seem to work). You might also need to do something different with /etc/modules. I needed to edit that file because I got vfat: module not found messages etc. when I booted. Anyway, I hope that helps, and that all the paths I mentioned are correct :) I'm new to debian and I just wrote this off of memory so...
Re: Down Loading
If reget doesn't work, have a friend with a fast connection download it and split it up to smaller files :) On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote: Hi, the service that I use to get onto the internet only allows me 1 hour at a time, then I have to quit and log back on. There are somefile that are like 7 meg, and take 1 1/2 hours to download and the service I use kick me off after 1 hour. How could I download it? Pete Poff---AKA---BlackJack Personal E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron address:telnet.cyberconinc.com 4000
Re: Problems Compiling Kernel 2.0.27
I normally don't compile sound board support, because I never use sound in Linux, but I was just messing around and I decided 'what the hell' and included it when I was remaking my kernel, and I got a bunch of missing configuration files/setup errors when trying to compile too. I just thought 'ahh screw it' and compiled without sound. Is there a problem in 2.0.27 with sound? On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, David James Loken wrote: Hi! I have been trying to recompile my kernel 2.0.27. I would like to use Menuconfig but I'm missing the file 'lxdiaglog.o' in /usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog. Does anyone know where I can get a copy? So I tried running 'make config' that goes along fine until I try to compile the sound board option. gcc tells me I'm missing the 'configure' in /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound. I have read the Readme.linx file, but I don't how to run the script that is appended to the end of Readme.linux after I have deleted the first part of file. Also I have tried to compile the 2.0.27 kernel without sound. 'make config' works fine but, when try running 'make dep' gcc say it can't find 'mkdep.c' even though 'mkdep.c' is present in /usr/src/linux/scripts. If it is in the wrong directory which directory should I put it in. Thanks in advance, 73 for now. Dave Loken VE6DJL
Re: Locate
Try running updatedb to fix your locate problem df will tell you about your disk space On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote: Hi, when I use locate I get an error. This is what I get if I type like locate what ever. Like locate new.stuff. I get locate: /var/lib/locate/locatedb: No suck file or directory. Can anyone tell me why? And is there a command to see how much disk space I have left? Thanks, Pete Poff---AKA---BlackJack Personal E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyron address: telnet.cyberconinc.com 4000
Re: nslookup
edit your /etc/hosts and put mybox on the line with 127.0.0.1 it should then look something like: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.quicklink.net mybox On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Gith wrote: Ok, I think this gets into the bind/named realm and I really try to avoid going there if at all possible. Here's the general question, Running nslookup localhost shows me this: # nslookup localhost Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Non-authoritative answer: Name:localhost.quicklink.net Address: 127.0.0.1 Running nslookup mybox shows me this # nslookup mybox Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 *** localhost can't find mybox: Non-existent host/domain In general, how could I get nslookup to return localhost.quicklink.net when queryed about mybox. Any ideas? -- - Willie Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.quicklink.net/~gith/ -
zsh vsh bash
Hey, what do you guys think is better, zsh or bash?
Re: Module Errors!!
Whenever I run /sbin/depmod -a, I get the following errors: *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/atixlmouse.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/busmouse.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/icn.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/ipx.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/isdn.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/msbusmouse.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/pcbit.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/misc/psaux.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/3c501.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/3c503.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/3c505.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/3c507.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/3c509.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/3c59x.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/8390.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/ac3200.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/apricot.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/arcnet.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/at1700.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/de4x5.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/de600.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/de620.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/depca.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/dgrs.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/dlci.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/e2100.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/eepro.o *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.27/net/eexpress.o and on and on and on for about 100 more lines... What should I do about that? (Oh, and other than /sbin/depmod -a, I followed all of the steps you mentioned in the previous reply to the letter, including the make modules and make modules_install)
Re: Module Errors!!
Do you or does anyone else get these errors right after installing Debian? I would imagine that at least for the first day or so most everything would be error free and ready to go, but maybe not? The only thing I can think of that would cause ME to have these errors and nobody else would be that I do a make zlilo and my boot is /dev/fd0 even though my root is /dev/hda2 (in other words, I stick in my floppy to boot off /dev/hda2). Could this be causing a problem? I don't really see why it would affect /sbin/depmod...(I think the root to solving this problem would be found easier by looking at why depmod gets errors instead of why the kernel does at bootup, no?) On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, William Chow wrote: On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Thought wrote: Whenever I run /sbin/depmod -a, I get the following errors: and on and on and on for about 100 more lines... What should I do about that? (Oh, and other than /sbin/depmod -a, I followed all of the steps you mentioned in the previous reply to the letter, including the make modules and make modules_install) Again, delete these modules. You probably don't need them. I believe your make modules made ALL the modules instead of the specific ones you specified. There's a file in the source tree supposedly that will allow you to specify which modules to make and not make. Will
Matrox Millenium
Does anyone out there know right off hand which chipset to choose when configuring X for the first time with a Matrox Millenium card?