Re: Jessie Performance under GNOME
Thank you All, For your valuable feedbacks, I will test GNOME-3 again w/o animations as suggested, while I am on MATE for the time being. Using X with EXA acceleration for TRIDENT video chip has problems updating display occasionally, trailing some garbage on the screen, it looks as if it could not cope with non-rectangular shapes. [25.342] (==) TRIDENT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 Could there be some specific settings for EXA I am not aware of? I took EXA from "testing" fork, as stable has had problems with X, a bug corrected upstream. Many thanks so far. -- Tomas Kral On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 21:01 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2016-05-16, Tomas Kral wrote: > > Dear Pete and All, > > > > I also use LXDE on RPI, that is our second machine in the household. > > > > I quite like GNOME for its appearance ala MacOS, and the new version of > > GNOME has got many new great ideas, it looks awesome, though it does not > > perform very well on my older PC platform. > > > > I also tried X with fewer colours, but did not help much. > > > > Many thanks so far. > > Have you tried disabling animations in GNOME 3? > > gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface enable-animations false >
Re: Jessie Performance under GNOME
Dear Stefan, Yes "Wheezy" under GNOME-2, and "Jessie" under GNOME-3 I see, it has to do with graphics after all. X.Org's XAA and EXA are 2D accelerators, right? My PC mainboard manual states it has got on-chip AGP 2D/3D. "Wheezy" performs well with XAA, that is not maintained upstream any longer. Many thanks so far. -- Tomas Kral On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 10:12 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > "Jessie" is not generally very responsive compared to "Wheezy", display > > update and mouse tracking is very very slow. > > Could it be that your wheezy install did not use Gnome-3 and that you're > now using the standard Gnome-3 desktop (which presumes existence of 3D > GPU acceleration) on a system whose graphics card either has no 3D > abilities (or whose 3D abilities are not supported by the X.org driver)? > > If so, try some other desktop: Gnome classic (not sure if it relies on > 3D hardware as well, tho), Mate (a derivative of Gnome-2), xfce, ... > > > Stefan >
Re: Jessie Performance under GNOME
Dear Pete and All, I also use LXDE on RPI, that is our second machine in the household. I quite like GNOME for its appearance ala MacOS, and the new version of GNOME has got many new great ideas, it looks awesome, though it does not perform very well on my older PC platform. I also tried X with fewer colours, but did not help much. Many thanks so far. -- Tomas Kral On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 13:56 +, Pete Orrall wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Tomas Kral wrote: > > Dear Users, > > > > I have finally installed "Jessie" in a separate partition of the machine > > where I also run "Wheezy" for past few years. > > > > I use GNOME desktops. > > > Hi Tomas, > > Is GNOME a requirement? If not, perhaps take a look at some lighter > weight environments like xfce or lxde. They use fewer resources. >
Jessie Performance under GNOME
Dear Users, I have finally installed "Jessie" in a separate partition of the machine where I also run "Wheezy" for past few years. I use GNOME desktops. "Jessie" is not generally very responsive compared to "Wheezy", display update and mouse tracking is very very slow. I have to admit that my PC is an older machine, 1GHz Athlon with TRIDENT video chip. My first thought was to look at X system, as XAA acceleration seems dropped for TRIDENT, I used EXA instead as recommended by X.Org, but it did not improve performance noticeably, also EXA has some update issues on my H/W. Any hints to improve "Jessie" performance to get at it least on "Wheezy" level on the same platform? Many thanks in advance. -- Tomas Kral
Jessie Performance under GNOME
Dear Users, I have finally installed "Jessie" in a separate partition of the machine where I also run "Wheezy" for past few years. I use GNOME desktops. "Jessie" is not generally very responsive compared to "Wheezy", display update and mouse tracking is very very slow. I have to admit that my PC is an older machine, 1GHz Athlon with TRIDENT video chip. My first thought was to look at X system, as XAA acceleration seems dropped for TRIDENT, I used EXA instead as recommended by X.Org, but it did not improve performance noticeably. Any hints to improve "Jessie" performance to get at it least on "Wheezy" level on the same platform? Many thanks in advance. -- Tomas Kral
Re: wheezy partition question
Not sure, Logical partitions may start at offset 63, what is peculiar that the partitioner, created offset 2 and a free space of 61 sectors, which really is not free, 61+2 equals 63 that would be the right offset On the same partition on my system used to be Lenny, and that was with offset 63 and no free space. My disk is repartitioned with no free space for many years. It just the partiotioner that created free space of 61, that should really belong to the offset. -- Tomas Kral On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 19:10 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:53:15 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > I am testing Wheezy on a separate partition of my hard disk. > > > > The partitions I told the installer to use are, > > > > /dev/sda5 as root / mount point, and > > /dev/sda6 as swap > > > > Now to the question, why the partition starts at offset #2 while I would > > expect #63? > > (...) > > Mine has an offset of "0" (though it's a primary partition for "/"), but > not sure if this right, wrong, bad or good... if Debian partitioner made > it in that way, it should be fine. > > > Is this really a problem, could I correct it at all? Many thanks. > > Are you experiencing any trouble, errors when booting or at the logs? > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1332783062.3283.32.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
wheezy partition question
Hello List, I am testing Wheezy on a separate partition of my hard disk. The partitions I told the installer to use are, /dev/sda5 as root / mount point, and /dev/sda6 as swap Now to the question, why the partition starts at offset #2 while I would expect #63? PLEASE NOTE 61 sectors shown as free 61 (+2=63 I thought should be the offset) cfdisk reports: == First Last # Type Sector Sector OffsetLength Filesystem Type (ID) Flag 1 Primary 0 64259 63 64260 Linux (83) Boot Pri/Log 64260 64320* 0 61*Free Space None 2 Primary 64321* 39857264 039792944*Extended (05) None 5 Logical 64321*7871849 2#7807529*Linux (83) None 6 Logical 7871850 8867879 63 996030 Linux swap / So (82) None I would expect: == First Last # Type Sector Sector OffsetLength Filesystem Type (ID) Flag 1 Primary 0 64259 63 64260 Linux (83) Boot 2 Primary 6426039857264 039793005 Extended (05) None 5 Logical 64260 7871849 63 7807590 Linux (83) None 6 Logical 7871850 8867879 63 996030 Linux swap / So (82) None Is this really a problem, could I correct it at all? Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1332766395.3283.25.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
opreport reports 0 Mhz processor speed
Hello List, I would like to learn to use a profiler. It seems Squeeze kernel supports it. I have installed oprofile package. But it reports 0 Mhz processor speed. Why? $ opreport --global-percent | head -22 Overflow stats not available CPU: CPU with timer interrupt, speed 0 MHz (estimated) Profiling through timer interrupt TIMER:0| samples| %| -- 20752 40.1773 libmpeg2.so.0.0.0 9527 18.4449 no-vmlinux 2805 5.4307 libpixman-1.so.0.16.4 2365 4.5788 libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.6 1892 3.6630 libgobject-2.0.so.0.2800.6 1849 3.5798 libc-2.11.2.so 1468 2.8422 Xorg TIMER:0| samples| %| -- 1452 2.8112 Xorg 16 0.0310 [vdso] (tgid:2090 range:0xb7746000-0xb7747000) 1391 2.6931 libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.26.0 1289 2.4956 libpthread-2.11.2.so 1178 2.2807 libxaa.so 797 1.5430 libcairo.so.2.10800.10 702 1.3591 liba52-0.7.4.so Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314294500.2862.7.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: How to read .so lib file
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 18:37 +0200, lina wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know how to read the .so file under /usr/lib/ > > the Binary file. > > Thanks, > > lina > > You may also try hexdump command $ hd | less # or $ hd -s -n -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1313688692.2755.4.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Boost sound volume?
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 16:07 +0200, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 06:01:46 -0400 > Carl Fink wrote: > > No, it's a well-known problem with PulseAudio. It gives max volumes > > much, much lower than Windows for no special reason I know of. > > Is it possible for me to just kill the PulseAudio server when I'm > starting certain applications, or force them to use ALSA? > > > Robert: if you're using Gnome, run gnome-volume-control. You can use > > the slider at the top to set volume to "more than 100%". (Yes, I know > > that's stupid.) Unfortunately the system will forget this setting if > > you ever lower the volume. > > Right now, I'm running LXDE, but I do have gnome-alsamixer installed, > and all of those are at max. Considering this is little more than a > graphical frontend for the command line alsamixer, I'm thinking you > mean the applet. But the package gnome-applets pulls in 357 MB of > dependencies. Is there a simple way to do the same from the command > line? I have plenty of hard disk space - it just seems like a huge > waste. > > Thanks, > > -- > rbmj > Have you tried alsa-utils package? It provides these commands: /usr/bin/aplay /usr/bin/amixer /usr/bin/arecordmidi /usr/bin/aseqnet /usr/bin/alsamixer /usr/bin/aconnect /usr/bin/speaker-test /usr/bin/iecset /usr/bin/amidi /usr/bin/aplaymidi /usr/bin/aseqdump To set volume you may type e.g. amixer sset Master 80% amixer sset PCM 100% -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312999579.2713.6.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Visited URL links in Epiphany
Hello List, How do I enable the functionality, that already visited URL links in Epiphany web browser, are shown in a changed colour? I was looking for some type of extension because I have installed just bare Epiphany package. And visited links do not change the colour so far for me. Will any of these do the trick? $ apt-cache pkgnames epiphany epiphany-browser epiphany epiphany-webkit epiphany-browser-data epiphany-extensions epiphany-data epiphany-browser-dbg epiphany-browser-dev epiphany-gecko Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312917034.2711.23.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Squeeze rotating cursor blinks
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 18:44 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:19:05 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > Just noticed an interesting fact about cursor on Squeeze. > > > > The rotating cursor, showing when an app is busy, is actually blinking > > at intervals. > > It also blinks (appears/disappears) sometimes/randomly for me (wheezy)... > maybe this is something related with the VGA driver in use, in my case, > intel. > > > This does not show with Lenny, where it is steady rotating, this happens > > only with Squeeze. > > > > I remember there used to be a parameter during install whereby I could > > give desktop applications extra performance boost over background tasks. > > I'm not aware of such parameter during install :-? > > > Not sure if this could be the reason for the cursor blinking. > > There are some options you can tweak to control the behaviour of the > jumping/bouncing icon when clicking over icons to run applications but I > don't think this is going to have any effect over the "blinking" issue... > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > Thing is, this happens with Squeeze onwards, not in Lenny backwards. I also notice a bit of sluggish desktop performance in Squeeze compared to Lenny. I associated the cursor behavior with it. I have dual boot of both, same set of apps, so I can evaluate a little bit. Sometimes cursor disappears for good of a second, I have to double click icons once, twice, sometimes even thrice, before a folder opens up, mounted cdrom opens, etc. Not sure, so far Lenny outperforms Squeeze at least on my hardware. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312911233.2711.12.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Easy way to restart network
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 21:27 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tomas Kral wrote: > > What is the recommended and easy way to restart network subsystem on a > > desktop without need of rebooting the computer? > > This has been a popular topic this week! > > > On Lenny I used to, as admin, execute something like this, > > > > #!/bin/sh > > # restart network > > su -c'\ > > modprobe -r cdc_ether;\ > > modprobe cdc_ether;\ > > cd /etc/init.d;\ > > ./networking stop;\ > > ./networking start;\ > > ./arno-iptables-firewall restart;\ > > cd -\ > > ' > > > > On Squeeze, it sometimes complains that eth1 device does not exist yet. > > My idea is to automate the task, and set a watchdog over ISP connection, > > and call a safe script when it drops to bring it up again. > > You didn't show us how your /etc/network/interfaces is set up. It > would be useful to know if you are using 'auto eth0' / 'auto eth1' > which I assume you are otherwise the networking stop and start would > not work, but it is still an assumption I have to make. And without > that information it makes it hard to guess at your problem with eth1 > not existing yet. Please show us. > > On Squeeze you should use the 'service' utility to operate on services > instead of calling them directly. This is new in Squeeze and > addresses the problem of environment polution. This doesn't in any > way change the way '/etc/init.d/service restart' works now but is an > improvement over it. Since it is now available I recommend using it. > > I would reorder the actions to remove the modules after having brought > down the interface. I expect that is the problem. Probably unloading > the module brings down the interface and there is a race between which > happens first. At a guess. > > You have backslashes at the end of every line. But you have also > created a quoted string with semicolons. In this case you don't need > to have quoted newline continuations. I think it reads better without > it. > > You cd into /etc/init.d and then at the end of the script 'cd -' to > return and then exit. The current working directory is a property of > the process and since the process is exiting immediately it is no > necessary to try to return before exiting. So that 'cd -' can be > removed. > > I would read this reference: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html > > And in particular this section is very useful: > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_syntax_of_etc_network_interfaces > > And then add 'allow-hotplug eth0' so that the interfaces are event > driven too. Then use ifup and ifdown instead. > > #!/bin/sh > # restart network > su -c ' > service networking stop; > modprobe -r cdc_ether; > sleep 1; > modprobe cdc_ether; > service networking start; > service arno-iptables-firewall restart; > ' > > I added a sleep 1 there because I have a system with an Intel chipset > and it has a vaguely similar problem. I sometimes have to unload and > reload that module too. I found that it was much more reliable if I > gave the system a few cycles between unloading and loading. YMMV. > > I would be inclined to set up sudo and /etc/sudoers so that this uses > sudo instead of su. I find it a more convenient solution. It would > turn this into a normal script instead of a script in the argument > list and then just sudo that script. Again YMMV. > > If you decide to try the ifup/ifdown route it would look like this. > As an advantage it would not cycle the eth0 network but just eth1. > > #!/bin/sh > # Call script with sudo. > ifdown eth1 > modprobe -r cdc_ether > sleep 1 > modprobe cdc_ether > ifup eth1 > service arno-iptables-firewall restart > > As further improvement possibilities, if you look in /etc/network/ you > will find a series of .d directories such as /etc/network/if-up.d/ and > in there scripts. You could have the firewall script automatically > restart whenever the network comes online. > > File something like /etc/network/if-up.d/local-firewall-restart: > #!/bin/sh > # Restart firewall whenever the interface comes online. > case $IFACE in > eth*) service arno-iptables-firewall restart ;; > esac > exit 0 > > And then remove that from the other script because it will always happen. > Make sure to 'chmod a+x /etc/network/if-up.d/local-firewall-restart' > to make the script executable. > > #!/bin/sh > # Call script with sudo. > ifdown
Easy way to restart network
Dear List, What is the recommended and easy way to restart network subsystem on a desktop without need of rebooting the computer? My installation is a home use, multi-user, family sort of thing computer. I have CDC_ETHER broadband connection to an ISP. Cable modem is plugged to na USB port. eth1 is ISP eth0 is home-net rooted to WiFi I use NAT (ip_masquerade) Time to time, say once in a week, I need to restart network for various reasons, connection drops by ISP, does not come up at system boot, etc. On Lenny I used to, as admin, execute something like this, #!/bin/sh # restart network su -c'\ modprobe -r cdc_ether;\ modprobe cdc_ether;\ cd /etc/init.d;\ ./networking stop;\ ./networking start;\ ./arno-iptables-firewall restart;\ cd -\ ' On Squeeze, it sometimes complains that eth1 device does not exist yet. My idea is to automate the task, and set a watchdog over ISP connection, and call a safe script when it drops to bring it up again. Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312824811.2744.25.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Squeeze rotating cursor blinks
Dear List, Just noticed an interesting fact about cursor on Squeeze. The rotating cursor, showing when an app is busy, is actually blinking at intervals. This does not show with Lenny, where it is steady rotating, this happens only with Squeeze. I remember there used to be a parameter during install whereby I could give desktop applications extra performance boost over background tasks. Not sure if this could be the reason for the cursor blinking. Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312823945.2744.10.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
wallpaper desktop files on Debian [was restoring MBR]
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 18:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Forwarded Message > > > From: Tomas Kral > > > To: Camaleón > > > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:14:17 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > > > Not sure if I am quite in the subject. > > > > > > But in the old Potato days, the installer always asked to stick in a > > > floppy disk to write a new MBR on it. > > You can't store a wallpaper on a "floppy disk". > > Quite right, I know what you mean, sorry. BTW regarding wallpapers on Debian, I find it interesting and I'd love to express my opinion here. Sorry for changing the topic. My systems runs under 1GHz of processor speed. Since Lenny GNOME adopted new SVG format used for desktop icons also for wallpapers. On Lenny moreblue-orbit-wallpaper.svg default wallpaper took on my system (just under 1GHz) some 15-20 secs to draw. I had to change it to use PNG instead by $ /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display desktop-background update-alternatives --install /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-background desktop-background /usr/share/images/desktop-base/moreblue-orbit-wallpaper.png 65 While displaying PNG wallpaper on my system is instantaneous. On Squeeze SVG wallpapers are also used, but there are no PNG alternatives present for them as in Lenny, so I had to even create PNG files by myself, then $ update-alternatives --install /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-background desktop-background /usr/share/images/desktop-base/spacefun-wallpaper.png 65 I had to apply a similar trick to GDM3 desktop wallpaper in Squeeze as well. Not sure I quite comprehend SVG benefits. For icons definitely YES, one icon for all regardless of DPI and size, it can stretch. Given icon size it does not impose a performance issue. On Etch (non SVG icon files) there had to be several sets of the same icon, differing in size and DPI. For wallpapers in SVG I have slowdown in boot. I'd very much prefer PNG alternatives for slower machines (< 1GHz) as far as wallpapers are concerned. Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312179955.2644.25.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: restoring MBR
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 17:30 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:19:31 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 14:06 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:14:17 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> > >> > On Sat, July 30, 2011 6:40 am, Camaleón wrote: > >> >>>>> One of my (home made) overnight cron jobs does this: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> dd if=/dev/sda \ > >> >>>>> of=$DST/mbr_backup.bin \ > >> >>>>> bs=512 \ > >> >>>>> count=1 >> $LOG 2>&1 > >> > > >> > Okay, well this script isn't perfect and it sure won't help after the > >> > problem, but it will save all possible MBRs and fdisk output for a > >> > bunch of candidate disks: > >> > >> (...) > >> > >> This should be done _at install time_ when things can badly break. Once > >> you've lost your MBR making a backup of the _wrong_ MBR is of course > >> useless. > >> > >> > > Not sure if I am quite in the subject. > > > > But in the old Potato days, the installer always asked to stick in a > > floppy disk to write a new MBR on it. Leaving hard drive untouched. > > Sure. The expert installer has the option to do not install any > bootloader or to install it on a partition instead MBR. Not sure what > happened to the OP but it seems that finally the MBR was replaced somehow. > > > Just in case something went wrong with the newly installed system, user > > could always boot back in the old system, just by removing the floppy > > from the drive. > > > > Also, there used to be command grub-floppy. > > Yes, there are many options available. For instance, I removed my > notebook hard disk when I installed wheezy on external USB disk... just > in case ;-) > > But regardless the option the user select at install time (do not install > any bootloader, install it in a partition or another place or just > putting it into MBR), it would be nice the installer makes a copy of the > original MBR and leaves it under "/boot". > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > Good thinking, I just found tcat@lynx:~$ /usr/sbin/grub-floppy --help This program is broken, unsupported upstream, and has been deprecated in favour of grub-mkrescue (grub-pc package) grub-mkrescue looks like a new tool to create a rescue image I have no experience with it so far, not sure if this one is present at install time, and if it makes sense at all Also my Squeeze CD-ROM has got option boot-rescue, I can only guess user can do MBR maintenance there Since Potato (my first Debian installation), I keep two installations on my system, stable / testing, I boot into testing from Stable using grub. When testing becomes stable enough I upgrade it to stable, and after a while old stable gives room to a new testing. It works good for me, I can always look back and see what setup I had before, and what I might have been missing in the new system. This requires more partions of HD. /boot is a separate partition on my system, it has kernel images there Also in Patato and later I had to have custom kernels under /boot there because my hardware was experimental at that time and not all drivers were present in default flavour I still remember flavours (Vanilla, IDE, Laptop, etc.) Now everything seems single monolithic kernels by platform focus point In the process I have always rescue CDs, used to be rescue floppies though, now possibly becoming rescue USBs :=) -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312127877.4755.23.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: restoring MBR
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 14:06 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:14:17 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > > On Sat, July 30, 2011 6:40 am, Camaleón wrote: > >>>>> One of my (home made) overnight cron jobs does this: > >>>>> > >>>>> dd if=/dev/sda \ > >>>>> of=$DST/mbr_backup.bin \ > >>>>> bs=512 \ > >>>>> count=1 >> $LOG 2>&1 > > > > Okay, well this script isn't perfect and it sure won't help after the > > problem, but it will save all possible MBRs and fdisk output for a bunch > > of candidate disks: > > (...) > > This should be done _at install time_ when things can badly break. Once > you've lost your MBR making a backup of the _wrong_ MBR is of course > useless. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > Not sure if I am quite in the subject. But in the old Potato days, the installer always asked to stick in a floppy disk to write a new MBR on it. Leaving hard drive untouched. Just in case something went wrong with the newly installed system, user could always boot back in the old system, just by removing the floppy from the drive. Also, there used to be command grub-floppy. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312125571.4168.27.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: picture import from camera - gthumb
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 11:48 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:35:52 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > How do I import pictures from a digital camera on Squeeze? > > With many dsc cameras you only need to connect it and it will be mounted > under /media. Then the usual copy/paste... > > > On Lenny I installed gthumb application that was called by > > gnome-volume-manager when a camera was plugged in to a USB slot. > > Yep, it's annoying that always asks for import photos :-P > > > When I try to install gthumb on Squeeze it insists on removing the whole > > gnome-desktop. > > That should not happen at all. If yes, either report it or put here the > output you get when you try to install that package. > > > Is there a replacement app to gthumb, that I could set to handle the > > picture import? > > Shotwell is now the default for GNOME desktop. F-Spot is also a well-know > app. I'd say that all these apps rely on gphoto for importing the > pictures so choosing one app or other just depends on your specific needs. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > Anyway, thanks to all for useful tips, I will elaborate one way or another, than share with the list here, if useful. Copy / Paste to Pictures folder works for now. I installed gthumb w/o gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, so it can be used for viewing pictures and manipulation. tcat@lynx:~$ su -c'apt-get -d install gthumb' Download complete and in download only mode tcat@lynx:/var/cache/apt/archives$ su -c'dpkg -i gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs_0.10.30-1_i386.deb gthumb-data_3% 3a2.11.5-4_all.deb gthumb_3%3a2.11.5-4_i386.deb' I quite like the way gthumb handles new predefined home folders, Pictures, Movies, etc. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312124723.4168.13.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: picture import from camera - gthumb
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 21:34 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Tomas Kral wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > How do I import pictures from a digital camera on Squeeze? > > > > On Lenny I installed gthumb application that was called by > > gnome-volume-manager when a camera was plugged in to a USB slot. > > > > When I try to install gthumb on Squeeze it insists on removing the whole > > gnome-desktop. > > > > Is there a replacement app to gthumb, that I could set to handle the > > picture import? > > > > I use gphoto2 as CLI: 'gphoto2 -P' > That dumps all te files in the dir. where it is executed. > > Hugo > > Thanks for help. I will try this one as well. Just found out, gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs package that gthumb depends on is conflicting with gnome-desktop-environment tcat@lynx:~$ su -c'apt-get -d install gthumb' Download complete and in download only mode tcat@lynx:/var/cache/apt/archives$ su -c'dpkg -i gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs_0.10.30-1_i386.deb gthumb-data_3% 3a2.11.5-4_all.deb gthumb_3%3a2.11.5-4_i386.deb' Selecting previously deselected package gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs. dpkg: regarding gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs_0.10.30-1_i386.deb containing gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs: gnome-desktop-environment conflicts with gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs (version 0.10.30-1) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs_0.10.30-1_i386.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs Is this a dependency bug? Many thanks so far. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312056162.3164.32.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: picture import from camera - gthumb
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 20:54 +0200, Facundo Aguirre wrote: > Hi, to import pictures from a digital camera you can try gtkam. > > Greetings, > > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 08:35:52PM +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > How do I import pictures from a digital camera on Squeeze? > > > > On Lenny I installed gthumb application that was called by > > gnome-volume-manager when a camera was plugged in to a USB slot. > > > > When I try to install gthumb on Squeeze it insists on removing the whole > > gnome-desktop. > > > > Is there a replacement app to gthumb, that I could set to handle the > > picture import? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > Tomas Kral I tried gtkam, not bad, but gthumb in my opinion worked along with gnome better. When I plug a camera in, a gnome dialog appears asking which application to use to handle the digital picture import. gtkam is not recognised by this gnome camera detection dialog and it does not seem to handle nokia78 well. I also tried f-spot which gnome recognises, but this one takes up a lot of resources, and then it quits, leaving no import done. Not sure, is there any other? Of course, as a last resort, I could always mount camera as a file system, and pick the pictures manually. P.S. Why is it that so many working features of Lenny are not present in Squeeze? Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1312053934.3164.20.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 23:17 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:49:06 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
> >
> > Just finding my way around with udisks.
> > Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
> >
> > tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
> > Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
> >
> > Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
> >
> > I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
> > There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
> >
> > Where in, floppy is set as,
> > ...
> > # PC floppy drives
> > #
> > KERNEL=="fd*", ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}="1"
> > ...
> >
> > Still not any wiser about udisks
> >
>
> I just tried it myself. This seems to work with a CD-ROM drive,
> but fails with a floppy drive, as you discovered.
>
> Is there some specific task that you are trying to accomplish?
> Are you able to mount and unmount floppy disks using the udisks
> command?
>
> Or are you just trying to learn more about udisks? If so,
> here are some sources of information:
>
> man 1 udisks
> man 7 udisks
> man polkit
> man udisks-daemon
> man udisks-tcp-bridge
> /usr/share/doc/udisks/*
> Separate Debian package udisks-doc
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks
>
> HTH
Without much knowing what I was actually doing
I just set it to "0"
# PC floppy drives
> > #
> > KERNEL=="fd*", ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}="0"
Voila, I can do
$ mount /floppy
$ umount /floppy
I can also under "Computer" desktop folder, double-click
on floppy icon, it gets mounted, right mouse button has got context menu
mount / unmount / and format
Only quick format, size (density), label, etc are missing (these were
the options of gfloppy tool)
All the rest seems back to normal.
Also I'd much prefer gparted to default gnome-disk-utility
On Lenny, right/mouse/clicked properties tab was showing these
pie-charts of disk usage, not sure how to get this to Squeeze.
Of course I can always use du (disk usage) command
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Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:47 +0200, Horace Dynamite wrote: > On 22 July 2011 18:27, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:00 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: > > > >> On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: > >>> Uff, have you tried with another IDE cable? Those seem hardware errors. > >> > >> I installed the Debian system using this optical drive, so I think this > >> proves that my optical drive and IDE cable are working properly, for, it > >> was only three days ago that I installed Debian. Is that true? > > > > Well, the unit can be in its finals days and the fact you could install > > from it with no apparent/visible errors is not a proof of its health... > > BTW, how old is it? > > 2 years old. I've just booted into a Ubuntu Live CD, which I believe > implies the electronics are working. > > > Then you can re-sit the current one, just in case it has been slightly > > moved or became loose. > > I took it out, re-sat, booted the LiveCD again, it worked. Yet I still > get these hardware errors. > > Thanks for your time, > > Horace. > > How is your drive reported by the kernel. As SCSI/ATA or IDE ? On my machine, the kernel boots as SCSI/ATA with IDE devices. I rebuilt my custom kernel, where it can boot as E-IDE with IDE devices. On linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 - debian default kernel tcat@lynx:~$ dmesg | grep scsi [2.299497] scsi0 : pata_via [2.300477] scsi1 : pata_via [2.698385] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROMSONY CD-RW CRX160E 1.0e PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [2.803991] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 On my custom ide kernel, linux-image-2.6.32-10.00.Custom tcat@lynx:~$ dmesg | grep hdc [3.880272] hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX160E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [4.720357] hdc: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4 [4.725161] hdc: UDMA/33 mode selected [5.142772] ide-cd: hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 4096kB Cache Just curious, not sure if I can help. I am struggling with a lot of new stuff in Squeeze. Regards -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311535696.2620.3.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 14:36 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:58:27 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 15:40 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Issue "man udisks" for more information.
> >
> > Yes, this one did the trick...
> >
> > tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --mount /dev/fd0
> > Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/fd0 at /media/floppy0
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Is it possible to make mount aware of UDisks/devices/fd0 and the like?
>
> Remember, "mount" was here first,
> and "udisks" is a recent thing. Under the covers, udisks is no doubt
> calling mount. The problem arose because makers of graphical
> desktop environments, such as GNOME, wanted devices to mount
> automatically, "just like Windows". So they came up with this
> udisks daemon to try to emulate Windows behavior. And the udisks
> daemon causes problems for those who are used to doing manual mounts
> with the Linux mount command. I'm reasonably sure that the attitude
> of the people who support the mount and umount commands will be,
> "Hey, our stuff works as designed, just as it always did. The
> udisks people broke it, and the udisks people should fix it."
>
> The udisks daemon and the udisks command do provide useful function,
> but not in a totally forward-compatible way. Sometimes they
> interfere with stuff that used to work. An example is apt-cdrom
> and aptitude or apt-get when processing mountable media. You
> may be able to get the desired behavior by using the "--inhibit-polling"
> option of the udisks command in a separate window to temporarily
> disable polling by the udisks daemon while you run older software
> that is incompatible with the udisks behavior
Just finding my way around with udisks.
Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
Where in, floppy is set as,
...
# PC floppy drives
#
KERNEL=="fd*", ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}="1"
...
Still not any wiser about udisks
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Re: Cannot mount floppies in Squeeze
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:27 +0200, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:39:03 +0200 > Tomas Kral wrote: > > Hello Tomas, > > > I think it is an IDE floppy, it has got a ribbon cable attaching it to > > the main board. > > Further to what Lisi says; > > How many pins has the connector/cable got? If it's a 40 way cable, then > yes, it's IDE. If fewer than 40, it's an ordinary floppy. > The floppy ribbon belt is a wee bit narrower compared to CD-ROM, or HD belts, I guess it is an ordinary floppy, then. My main board manual just says: one floppy port supporting, 3,5" or 5,25" I counted pins on the board layout Floppy port = 2 rows by 17, 34 pins Both IDE ports = 2 rows by 20, 40 pins, though I use 80-wire cables on CD/DVD and HD Ordinary floppy, then. Sorry for confusing it. Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311018567.2803.34.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Cannot mount floppies in Squeeze
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 11:42 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/16/2011 3:52 AM, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-35 > > > > $ su -c'mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0' # or > > $ mount /floppy > > > [ 8744.146621] FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT > > filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! > > > > But no floppy is really mounted > > > as it should as per fstab > > $ cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy > > /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > Is there a floppy support in 2.6.32-5-686 at all? > > In /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 > > There is no floppy module set > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=m > > Is this a standard floppy interface drive or an IDE floppy? > > > Also noticed kernel boots with SCSI devices > > /dev/sda.. /dev/sr.. > > But my hardware is IDE/ATAPI based. > > Read about libata: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_FAQ > > > How do I enable IDE on Squeeze? > > Many thanks. > > You don't. It's already enabled. Libata manages your IDE and SATA > devices. The old IDE drivers are deprecated. > > -- > Stan > > Just build my own custom kernel from linux-source-2.6.32 package I enabled VIA module in the .config, since VIA is my chipset And there comes up E-IDE at the boot up. tcat@lynx:/usr/src/linux$ diff /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 /boot/config-2.6.32-10.00.Custom 4c4 < # Sat Jun 11 19:11:36 2011 --- > # Mon Jul 18 07:09:10 2011 1436a1437 > CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y 1494c1495 < # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is not set --- > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=m It took a while to compile, about 8 hours. Not sure what is better for me, end/user/wise, SCSI or E-IDE? Devices in both kernels report themselves as UDMA-xxx (VIA vt82c686b), I notice a slight performance gain in E-IDE one flavour. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311017807.2803.21.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Cannot mount floppies in Squeeze
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 11:42 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 7/16/2011 3:52 AM, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-35 > > > > $ su -c'mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0' # or > > $ mount /floppy > > > [ 8744.146621] FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT > > filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! > > > > But no floppy is really mounted > > > as it should as per fstab > > $ cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy > > /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > Is there a floppy support in 2.6.32-5-686 at all? > > In /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 > > There is no floppy module set > > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=m > > Is this a standard floppy interface drive or an IDE floppy? I think it is an IDE floppy, it has got a ribbon cable attaching it to the main board. > > > Also noticed kernel boots with SCSI devices > > /dev/sda.. /dev/sr.. > > But my hardware is IDE/ATAPI based. > > Read about libata: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_FAQ > > > How do I enable IDE on Squeeze? > > Many thanks. > > You don't. It's already enabled. Libata manages your IDE and SATA > devices. The old IDE drivers are deprecated. > > -- > Stan > > -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311014343.2607.10.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Cannot mount floppies in Squeeze
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 20:58 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > May I recommend sidestepping this entirely? ... The "mtools" > > toolkit is vastly more efficient and safer, ... > > +1 on the use of mtools. It is definitely a good solution. > > However if someone is wanting to mount the device then it is probably > because they want to use a graphical file manager. (Otherwise why > mount it? Just use the mtools.) In which case mtools being command a > line driven interface probably won't be a good fit for them. > > Bob In GNOME GUI if I clicked on "Floppy Drive" icon it says "No media found". I have to issue command, $ udisks --mount /dev/fd0 Then "Floopy Drive" icon is not changed for the actual mounted floppy state icon with the label name, it appears next to "Floppy Drive" as a new icon. Also I noticed that gfloopy was dropped in Squeeze, I cannot format floppies anymore using GUI. However, I can use any or both of: superformat, mformat commands. Disk Utility borrowed from RedHat refuses to format IDE floppy, perhaps it can format USB sticks, haven't tested that one yet. Not sure if USB sticks need formatting. Cheers -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311013887.2607.8.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Cannot mount floppies in Squeeze
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 15:40 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:22:40 -0400 (EDT), Dom wrote: > > On 16/07/11 09:52, Tomas Kral wrote: > >> Hello list, > >> > >> Just found out I cannot mount floppies in Squeeze. > >> I am on uptodate x86 kernel, > >> linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-35 > >> > >> $ su -c'mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0' # or > >> $ mount /floppy > >> > >> Puts out in messages ... > >> [ 8744.146621] FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT > >> filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! > > This is just an information message. Don't worry about it. > >> But no floppy is really mounted > >> ... > > > > I had a similar problem, which was caused by udisks-daemon. > > What was happening was that I mounted > > the floppy, and, almost immediately, udisks-daemon dismounted it. > > (I'm currently running Wheezy, but > > believe this was the case in Squeeze too). > > > > I'm sure there must be something I've overlooked, > > but I ended up stopping the daemon when I wanted > > to use a floppy, and restarting it again afterwards. > > Merely inserting a floppy disk in the floppy drive may cause > an auto-mount of the floppy disk, but not necessarily where > you want it mounted. After inserting the floppy disk in the > floppy drive, wait a few seconds, then issue the "mount" command > with no operands to see if and where it was mounted. If it is not > mounted, use the udisks command to mount the floppy, instead of the > regular mount command. Issue "man udisks" for more information. > > -- > .''`. Stephen Powell > : :' : > `. `'` >`- > > Yes, this one did the trick... tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --mount /dev/fd0 Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/fd0 at /media/floppy0 Thanks a lot. Is it possible to make mount aware of UDisks/devices/fd0 and the like? On my system, mount works on everything in /etc/fstab except floppy /dev/fd0 devices USB sticks (floppies) get mounted automatically by inserting them to an USB slot. Many thanks -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1310893107.3129.5.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Cannot mount floppies in Squeeze
Hello list, Just found out I cannot mount floppies in Squeeze. I am on uptodate x86 kernel, linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-35 $ su -c'mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0' # or $ mount /floppy Puts out in messages ... [ 8744.146621] FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! But no floppy is really mounted $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda8 3818640 3431832 1162828 76% / tmpfs 123336 0123336 0% /lib/init/rw udev118924 180118744 1% /dev tmpfs 123336 0123336 0% /dev/shm /dev/sr1663552663552 0 100% /media/cdrom1 as it should as per fstab $ cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 Is there a floppy support in 2.6.32-5-686 at all? In /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 There is no floppy module set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=m # # Please see Documentation/ide/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives # CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set CONFIG_IDE_GD=m CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATAPI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECS=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DELKIN=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEACPI is not set # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y Also noticed kernel boots with SCSI devices /dev/sda.. /dev/sr.. But my hardware is IDE/ATAPI based. How do I enable IDE on Squeeze? Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1310806344.32706.19.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 17:39 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:04:21 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 20:24 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
>
> >> Okay, I have tested with 2 different commercial DVDs: a documentary
> >> ("Powers of Ten") and a movie ("Master & Commander") and both work very
> >> well providing nice picture quality, crystal clear sound and smooth DVD
> >> reprodiction (no jumps nor pauses). I tested with Totem.
> >>
> >> But this is Wheezy so I can only confirm that here works like a charm.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > (a)
> > I have temporarily switched my apt-sources to testing I have upgraded
> > gstreamer.*plugins.* to the version of Wheezy Surprisingly Totem is of
> > the same version as in Lenny
>
> Mmm... Totem (and totem-gstreamer) for lenny is 2.22 while for wheezy is
> 2.30. And gstreamer packages are also of different versions (lenny's are
> older).
>
> > Same result, video is out of sync, many video frames are dropped, audio
> > is not audible or very bad.
>
> What package versions do you have installed? :-)
Sorry, I meant ... surprisingly testing Totem is of the same version as
in stable >>Squeeze<<, I was upgrading to testing from Squeeze,
gstreamer.*plugins.*
I am now back To Squeeze.
On Lenny I can play back DVDs in totem-xine
On Lenny, Squeeze, Wheezy (testing) I cannot play back DVDs in
totem-gstreamer
No workaround so far.
In the log it says "time stamping problem" for totem-gstreamer
>
> > Rolled gstreamer.*plugins.* back to Squeeze
> >
> > (b)
> > I have just built my custom Totem from sources, compiled against stable
> > Debian/Squeeze libgstreamer.*-dev libs I left out some pluggins, UI is a
> > bit faster.
> >
> > Same result, video is out of sync, many video frames are dropped, audio
> > is not audible or very bad.
>
> Did you finally test with another media player like MPlayer or VLC, for
> instance?
Not VLC so far. Others yes.
>
> > (c)
> > I have filed a bug at GNOME Bugzilla
> > Bug 654383 - No playback of DVDs in Totem Debian / Squeeze
> >
> > Shall I file it at Debian as well?
> > If so how do I file it, never done that before.
>
> Yes, I would have started by filling a bug at Debian's BTS. But it seems
> that someone replied to GNOME's one, then better wait and see how it
> goes...
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>
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Re: Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 20:24 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:57:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:22:37 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote:
>
> (...)
>
> >> the release candidate in Squeeze became totem-gstreamer that cannot
> >> read DVDs, and is an integral part of gnome-desktop.
> >
> > If no (zero) commercial DVD works, I would open a bug report for that.
> > One DVD can fail but "all" sounds a bit strange. I will try in my wheezy
> > time permitting...
>
> Okay, I have tested with 2 different commercial DVDs: a documentary
> ("Powers of Ten") and a movie ("Master & Commander") and both work very
> well providing nice picture quality, crystal clear sound and smooth DVD
> reprodiction (no jumps nor pauses). I tested with Totem.
>
> But this is Wheezy so I can only confirm that here works like a charm.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>
(a)
I have temporarily switched my apt-sources to testing
I have upgraded gstreamer.*plugins.* to the version of Wheezy
Surprisingly Totem is of the same version as in Lenny
Same result, video is out of sync, many video frames are dropped, audio
is not audible or very bad.
Rolled gstreamer.*plugins.* back to Squeeze
(b)
I have just built my custom Totem from sources, compiled against stable
Debian/Squeeze libgstreamer.*-dev libs
I left out some pluggins, UI is a bit faster.
Same result, video is out of sync, many video frames are dropped, audio is not
audible or very bad.
(c)
I have filed a bug at GNOME Bugzilla
Bug 654383 - No playback of DVDs in Totem Debian / Squeeze
Shall I file it at Debian as well?
If so how do I file it, never done that before.
Many thanks so far.
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Re: Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 20:24 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:57:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:22:37 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote:
>
> (...)
>
> >> the release candidate in Squeeze became totem-gstreamer that cannot
> >> read DVDs, and is an integral part of gnome-desktop.
> >
> > If no (zero) commercial DVD works, I would open a bug report for that.
> > One DVD can fail but "all" sounds a bit strange. I will try in my wheezy
> > time permitting...
>
> Okay, I have tested with 2 different commercial DVDs: a documentary
> ("Powers of Ten") and a movie ("Master & Commander") and both work very
> well providing nice picture quality, crystal clear sound and smooth DVD
> reprodiction (no jumps nor pauses). I tested with Totem.
>
> But this is Wheezy so I can only confirm that here works like a charm.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>
Perfect, something to look forward to :-]
Many thanks
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Re: Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:03 +0200, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:36:45 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > > > Well, I have tried mplayer, gxine, .. not with much better results on > > Squeeze. > > And VideoLAN? > > > Just discovered.. > > > > On Lenny I selected totem-xine alternative and it works nicely, there is > > also alternative totem-gstreamer that has problems with DVD playback. > > > > On Squeeze Totem i based on gstreamer and uses libdvdread, libdvdcss, > > libdvdnav, and there is no totem-xine alternative as in Lenny. > > I'm afraid Totem dropped xine backend since the latest releases and uses > gstreamer ;-( > > > So far I Cannot play DVDs with totem on Squeeze. If anybody can, could > > they please share their settings with us. > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > Are you saying that you can't play "any" commercial DVD with totem under > Squeeze? If that's your case, I would open a bug report for that. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > That's the point, on Lenny totem-xine works just about fine and can read commercial DVDs nicely, while totem-gstreamer on Lenny (the other alternative in Lenny distribution) cannot and does not work. gstreamer-xine was dropped in Squeeze (licensing issue?), the release candidate in Squeeze became totem-gstreamer that cannot read DVDs, and is an integral part of gnome-desktop. At least on my machine it cannot play any DVDs on Squeeze, (some 10-15, taken at random), it does not seem to me as a performance issue, or setting issue, since it does not complain about missing codecs, libs etc. Would be good to read more users' feedback, before posting a bug. VideoLAN not tested so far. others yes, same problem. -- Tomas Kral
Re: Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound
Well, I have tried mplayer, gxine, .. not with much better results on Squeeze. Just discovered.. On Lenny I selected totem-xine alternative and it works nicely, there is also alternative totem-gstreamer that has problems with DVD playback. On Squeeze Totem i based on gstreamer and uses libdvdread, libdvdcss, libdvdnav, and there is no totem-xine alternative as in Lenny. So far I Cannot play DVDs with totem on Squeeze. If anybody can, could they please share their settings with us. Many thanks in advance. -- Tomas Kral -Original Message- From: Camaleón Reply-to: Camaleón To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:02:28 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:31:59 +0200, Tomas Kral wrote: > I have recently upgraded to Squeeze. > I experience very slow playback of DVDs in Totem. I have a bad sound as > well. > It appears to be dropping some of the picture frames, and sound tracks, > also > it skips DVD intro and starts right at the DVD menu. > > Films downloaded from the Internet play well in Totem, only films played > back from original DVDs have these problems. (...) I don't know if this will be of any help but Google finds a report -quite similar to yours- from another user: http://www.forumdebian.com.br/archive/index.php/thread-634.html (it is written in Brazilian Portuguese but I think the logs can be easily understandable) It seems the user is also facing that problem when using Totem, VLC and MPlayer to watch a comercial DVD in Debian Squeeze. Given the shared similarities in both cases, I would try to watch another comercial DVD and see what happens. It can be a problem with a specific DVD media that uses a copy protection measure that makes the media player to have problems in decoding. Also, testing with another multimedia player software won't hurt :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón
Totem slow DVD playback and bad sound
Dear List, I have recently upgraded to Squeeze. I experience very slow playback of DVDs in Totem. I have a bad sound as well. It appears to be dropping some of the picture frames, and sound tracks, also it skips DVD intro and starts right at the DVD menu. Films downloaded from the Internet play well in Totem, only films played back from original DVDs have these problems. Totem on the command line, reports this $ totem Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3 libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access libdvdnav: DVD Title: Vrchni prchni libdvdnav: DVD Serial Number: 37087180C8F78E7F libdvdnav: DVD Title (Alternative): libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/tcat/.dvdnav/Vrchni prchni.map' libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x0040. Regions: 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0142 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0xf8f8 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0001ccc4 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x001e1a6e libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_0.VOB at 0x001ed7ad libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x001ed949 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x001fe785 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x001fe7dc libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_0.VOB at 0x001fec26 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x001fec73 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_0.VOB at 0x0022f370 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x0022f50b libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_0.VOB at 0x00230271 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x00230492 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_08_0.VOB at 0x00230675 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_08_1.VOB at 0x0023080e libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_09_1.VOB at 0x002308e7 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Found 9 VTS's libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdnav: RANDOM or SHUFFLE titles are NOT handled yet. No accelerated IMDCT transform found Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started I have installed these gstreamer plugins and libs ii gstreamer0.10-alsa 0.10.30-1 GStreamer plugin for ALSA ii gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 0.10.10-1 FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad0.10.19-2+b1 GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-base 0.10.30-1 GStreamer plugins from the "base" set ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.24-1 GStreamer plugins from the "good" set ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.15-1 GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set Has anybody been through this, am I missing some piece of setting? Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral
Re: Re: Lenny - GNOME FTP Connect To Server
Not with a different server, but I have tested it with a different client - command line FTP - , it works in text and binary mode and I can upload files to the server. I cannot figure why in GUI mode it does not work while in command line it does. -- Tomas Kral
Lenny - GNOME FTP Connect To Server
Dear All, I mounted an FTP site using GNOME Connect To Server. But I cannot PUT any files over FTP to host. It says: Error "Bad File Handle" while copying. However I can GET files over FTP from host alright. On Etch it works both ways, GET and PUT, only on Lenny I have got these errors. Would anyone see why? Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral
Lenny - GNOME FTP Connect To Server
Dear List, I mounted an FTP site using GNOME Connect To Server. But I cannot PUT any files over FTP to host. It says: Error "Bad File Handle" while copying. However I can GET files over FTP from host alright. On Etch it works both ways, GET and PUT, only on Lenny I have got these errors. Would anyone see why? Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral
Re: Re: Differences in gnome speed
I can confirm, it realy is the default Debian Lenny backround picture, that takes a while to show after login, when I change it e.g. to Open Flower or Clouds Pattern it comes up much quicker, couple of seconds. -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
logrotate
dear list, it seams as if syslog & messages files are not rotated, at least not in my installation of Etch, is there a setting that I need to change to get syslog or mesages files rotated? thank you tk
Cannot play MMS video streams
Dear Lists, Can anyone play MMS video streams off the web? I cannot so far. I am on Etch, having installed gstreamer0.10-*, possibly all plugins incl. gstreamer0.10-pitfdll plus w32codecs incl. gstreamer0.8-mms totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla evolution When I click on an URL video link in a browser it says MMS handler or plugin not installed, but there are installed, see above. Any ideas, is there a setting that I am missing? Thanks in advance. Thomas
NetworkManager - IPmasq - DHCP
Dear List, I am on Etch, and I use NetworkManager, DHCP to obtain dynamic address of my broadband provider UPC, along with /etc/init.d/networking scripts, plus ipmasq. All is standard 'apt-get installed' through sources lists. Always when a new lease is negotiated by dhcp client, a new ip address is assigned, and I need to manually rerun ipmasq also update NetworkManager, would anyone know how to automate it? Also it seems as if NetworkManager somehow interfered with /etc/init.d/networking scripts. Thank you. Thomas
Re: Re: how to play .wmv files on Debian..???
dear list, why is w32codecs not part of standard debian apt sources lists, it says WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! w32codecs thank you tk
Re: module serial.o loaded
I am set as follows.. * kernel 2.2.20-custom (i686), CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y * gnome 1.4.x.x * xfree 4.2.x.x-custom configured with /dev/mouse -> /dev/gpmdata * gdm 2.2.5.5-2 * gpm 1.19.6-12 configured with repeat_type=raw, device=/dev/psaux and type=imps2 serial.o gets loaded during kernel boot for the setserial to do its initial port setting, at least dmesg reports that, ... Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A ... beeing unused for 5 mins it is then unloaded by cron. /etc/inetd.conf does not have any tty relevant entries in my installation. I am still not any wiser, why it kept loading afterfwards when none of the /dev/ttyS's were used. However, I reconnected my modem from ttyS0 to ttyS1, I removed some duplicate entries in /etc/modutils/aliases and run update-modules, rebooted and it looks fine. Thanks anyway. P.S. Problem shared is problem halfed :-) Thomas. Dne 2003.12.30 10:43 napsal Jan Minar: On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 09:53:45AM +0100, Tomas Kral wrote: > I have included standard serial support as a module and it gets loaded > even when I do not use modem or any other connection over /dev/ttyS. > When I unload it (manually or by the cron entry 0-59/5 * * * * > /sbin/rmmod -a) it gets back again in a few minutes and this happens on > and on. I suppose you mean serial.o for i386 when you say ``standard serial support''? Maybe dmesg(8) would be of some help to you. What does lsmod(8) say? What mouse/other peripheria do you have? Where does /dev/mouse* point to? What does ``ps -eH'' output? What about other cron jobs, and/or things spawned by inetd (/etc/inetd.conf)? > Can anyone please explain why? It's quite hard to come with an insight given no knowledge of your system ;-) -- Jan MinarChvostny Snovy krok. \/\ Whoopy Boo Year. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
module serial.o loaded
Dear list, I have not been to the list for quite some time, and I am glad to be back. I'd love to ask the following question. I have built my own custom kernel to compile in only features needed and to keep the kernel lean. I have included standard serial support as a module and it gets loaded even when I do not use modem or any other connection over /dev/ttyS. When I unload it (manually or by the cron entry 0-59/5 * * * * /sbin/rmmod -a) it gets back again in a few minutes and this happens on and on. Can anyone please explain why? Thanks in advance. Thomas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i810 on asus
Alvin, Ta much. It worked in the end. I compiled the experimental Agp driver as per your suggestion and it works with potato's SVGA server. tomas > > hi tomas > > easiest way to get X11 working on the asus mboard > with onboard svga ( i assume ) > > http://www.Linux-1U.net/MotherBoard/Intel.X11.Patches/ > ( go to the original intel site for the files too ) > > get the agp driver > I810Gtt-0.2-4.src.rpm > > get the X server > XFCom_i810-1.2-3.i386.rpm > > http://www.Linux-1U.net/MotherBoard/Intel.X11.Patches/Intel.X11.patch.debian .txt > > if all that works... it should be about 5 min to get X11 working... > - than you might also have to install gnome/kde if you like those > window managers > > > c ya > alvin > > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, tomas kral wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have i810 chipset on an asus m-board. > > After having read almost all available read about i810 vs XF86_SVGA, I am stuck not able to get past the following.. > > > > XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System > > .. > > (--) SVGA: PCI: Intel Unknown chipset (0x7121) rev 3, Memory @ 0xe400, 0xe380 > > (--) SVGA: error doing ioctl(GARTIOCINFO): Invalid argument > > Fatal server error: > > Aborting > > > > while agpgart.o module gets loaded while it says.. > > Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann > > Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 202M > > Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: Detected an Intel i810 Chipset. > > Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe400 > > > > I am on 2.2.19pre17 as packaged in potato dist. > > > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.perfect-system.cz > > > >
i810 on asus
Hello, I have i810 chipset on an asus m-board. After having read almost all available read about i810 vs XF86_SVGA, I am stuck not able to get past the following.. XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System .. (--) SVGA: PCI: Intel Unknown chipset (0x7121) rev 3, Memory @ 0xe400, 0xe380(--) SVGA: error doing ioctl(GARTIOCINFO): Invalid argument Fatal server error:Aborting while agpgart.o module gets loaded while it says.. Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff HartmannOct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 202MOct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: Detected an Intel i810 Chipset.Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe400 I am on 2.2.19pre17 as packaged in potato dist. Your help is greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.perfect-system.cz
i810 on asus
Hello, I have i810 chipset on an asus m-board. After having read almost all available read about i810 vs XF86_SVGA, I am stuck not able to get past the following.. XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System .. (--) SVGA: PCI: Intel Unknown chipset (0x7121) rev 3, Memory @ 0xe400, 0xe380(--) SVGA: error doing ioctl(GARTIOCINFO): Invalid argument Fatal server error:Aborting while agpgart.o module gets loaded while it says.. Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff HartmannOct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 202MOct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: Detected an Intel i810 Chipset.Oct 18 16:41:46 debie kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe400 I am on 2.2.19pre17 as packaged in potato dist. Your help is greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.perfect-system.cz
