Re: Newbie Question (sorta :)

1997-05-21 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The question is: Is there any way to get back to the screen with the menu
 interface for loading modules into the kernel once you are done with the
 install or is it a once only sorta thing?

Run /usr/sbin/modconf. It's from package modconf, which is required so 
it should be on every debian system.

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Re: Frozen not really frozen ?

1997-05-15 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Carpenter, Dean \(MS Mail\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I thought frozen was supposed to be, well, frozen.  
 
 Why is it that every day there are a bunch of replacements going on in
 that tree ?  Actually, there seem to have been more bo/frozen changes in
 the last few days than there have been in hamm/unstable :)

Because frozen realy means frozen in new features/packages, not in
bug-fixes.

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Eduardo Goyanes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,
 
 I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in
 
 the unstable archives. When a.b.c  and b is even the file is stable.

Maybe version numbers suggests stable version, but 2.0.30 certanly
isn't one. It introduced few memory problems, and pre-2.0.31 patch is
almost required. Also pre-2.0.31 still has few problems, so if you
don't need 100Mbps on ethernet I'll suggest sticking with 2.0.29.

Debian stable tree contains stable release of lots of packages, and
kernel is one of them. It is now about 3 months old, and next stable
will come at Monday, 12th. In the mean time, between two stable
releases, only security and/or global system stability fixes are
accepted in that distribution tree, and 2.0.30 kernel doesn't belong
to either.

 what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2?

Get it from nearest kernel source mirror, unpack it in /usr/src, and
compile it. Or try the one in unstable/frozen debian tree.

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Re: stable or not stable?

1997-05-09 Thread Tomislav Vujec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The latest Linux kernel versions available on ftp.funet.fi are 2.0.30
 (stable) and 2.1.36 (unstable).  These two kernels (2.0 and 2.1) are
 being developed in parallel, in an effort to avoid the stagnation we saw
 with 1.2 when 1.3 got going.  The 2.0 kernel gets almost exclusively
 bugfix patches, though some new features have been added where the
 impetus was great enough.  If you're using a 2.0 kernel because you want
 a stable kernel, it's in your best interest to use the highest-numbered
 2.0 patchlevel.

That was true, and will be true again, when pre-2.0.xx schema starts
showing some results. But as of 2.0.30, it is not true! It isn't such
a bad kernel, but you can run into big problems at memory shortage
situations.

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Re: Can we upload binaries using libc6 to hamm yet?

1997-04-23 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Thomas Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What naming convention should I use?  I can't very well upload two
 foo_2.1-1_i386.changes and foo_2.1-1_i386.deb files simultaneously.
 foo_2.1-1_i386-libc6.changes or .deb, maybe?
 
 Or should I just release the libc5 version as foo_2.1-1, and the libc6
 version as foo_2.1-2?  Argh.

What about splitting release numbers for bo bug fixes? You can release
foo_2.1-1 as libc5 and foo_2.1-2 as libc6 package. Next libc5 bug fix
will be foo_2.1-1.1, and so on.

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New package/maintainer.

1997-04-21 Thread Tomislav Vujec
I decided to volunteer for debian project. So far I made a package
rnetscape for remote controlling netscape navigator through X
protocol. As I understood dpkg/debian documentation, I have to ask for
an account at master to upload this package. Is this the place to ask?

Regards,

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Re: X and Keyboards

1997-03-25 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Hubert Palme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After upgrading to 1.2.7, X does only know a US keyboard. Where in 
 the many configuration files can I tell X, that I have a German one 
 -- and where can I read about it?  

Add line:
XkbDisable
to section Keyboard in file /etc/X11/XF86Config. This will disable Xkb
extension from XFree86 3.2 wich itself disables xmodmap settings.

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Re: Where is oldmitpthreads?

1997-03-24 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Josip Gracin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Two weeks ago there was an announcement of oldmitpthreads package which
 contains MIT Pthreads library. I haven't been able to find it since then.  I
 have seen the recent list of packages still in Incoming but oldmitpthreads is
 not there. It just disappeared.
 
 Where is it?

It's still ther (in Incomming unfortunately).

ftp://master.debian.org/pub/Linux/Debian/Incoming/oldmitpthreads_0.0_i386.deb

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Re: /bin/sh != /bin/bash ? [was Re: zsh vs bash]

1997-03-17 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /bin/sh and /bin/bash are not equivalent. bash is a superset of sh
 functionality. bash behaves differently depending on whether it is
 invoked as sh or as bash (at least the new version 2 does).
 
 bash when invoked as /bin/sh is more posix compliant. when invoked as
 /bin/bash, all the bash enhancements are available.

But why would you want posix compliance, and bash extended features in
the same time? If you really need bash enhancements in init.d and other
misc scripts, invoke them with #!/bin/bash. On the other hand, if you
want to make this scripts more portable (as they should be), then
invoke them with /bin/sh, and do not use bash extended
functionality. You can always try to run it with /bin/sh as zsh to
check portability.

 e.g. /usr/sbin/dwww-doc-index from the dwww package doesn't work at all
 if the first line is '#! /bin/sh', but works correctly if the first line
 is '#! /bin/bash'.

And that's correct IMO. If you start your script with /bin/sh than use
it as posix compliant sh, if you want _any_ of other shells specific
features, start your script with explicit call to that shell, and
that'll make your script shell dependent, what it really is.

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Re: zsh vs bash

1997-03-12 Thread Tomislav Vujec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James W. Lynch) writes:
 This subject brings up a question I've had for a long time.  Bash appears
 to be the shell that I get when I log in as root or do an su command.
 I'm from the old school and prefer vi editing of commands, but I have
 yet to be able to make bash use vi as root.  I've set EDITOR and FCEDIT.
 I've set editing-mode vi.  I can't seem to get root to use anything
 but emacs editing mode.  Is this a diabolical plot by the Linux developers
 to force emacs on the world? 8^)
 
 Bash works as expected, described and designed when I'm a normal
 user.
 
 Can I do it? How?

I use vi as a root, and vi editing mode, but in zsh. Yes my root shell
is zsh. Now days when zsh runs autoconf configure scripts I am even
thinking to put it for /bin/sh instead of bash... heard that zsh
developers do that.

P.S. As a normal user I use xemacs, but of course in viper mode :-)

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Re: zsh vs bash

1997-03-10 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hosts=(valour cushioned myrddin tacitus chiark \
   mercury.elmailer.net wigwam.elmail.co.uk sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk \
   ftp.uu.net ftp.sendmail.org tlingit.elmail.co.uk)
 ssh=(chiark)
 compctl -k ssh ssh
 compctl -k hosts telnet ftp rlogin rsh ping traceroute
 compctl -k hosts -f rcp scp

And I'll add my favorite:
compctl -x n[1,~] -u -S / - n[1,//] -k hosts -S / - s[] \
-f -k (http:// ftp:// gopher:// telnet:// wais://) -S  \
-- lynx Mosaic netscape
compctl -x n[1,~] -u -S / - n[1,//] -k hosts -S / - s[] \
-k (http:// ftp://) -S  -- wget rftp

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Re: More shared lib stuff

1997-03-10 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Walter L. Preuninger II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 to compile the program, I followed the elf-howto and just did a
 gcc -o example example.c

You'll have to add -lmy_lib on the end of line, if you want to compile
example with your shlib libmy_lib.so


Re: Help on getting Debian 1.0.27 to install.

1997-03-06 Thread Tomislav Vujec
Tony Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Fellow Debians:

Hi!

 I can boot up from the Rescue disk but unable to complete base installation.
 I get the same error message after Debian finish copying the content on the
 fourth (last) disk.
 
 -
 
 gunzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
 Error in archive format.
 
 Something went wrong.  You might want to write down the error messages
 before you continue.  Please press ENTER when you are ready.
 
 There was a problem extracting the floppy from /dev/fd0.
 
 --

Unfortunately, there are some errors on your base disks. Maybe
there were bad sectors on them? Try to use other disks, and rawrite
image on them.

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