Re: Newbie Question (sorta :)
Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is: Is there any way to get back to the screen with the menu interface for loading modules into the kernel once you are done with the install or is it a once only sorta thing? Run /usr/sbin/modconf. It's from package modconf, which is required so it should be on every debian system. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Frozen not really frozen ?
Carpenter, Dean \(MS Mail\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought frozen was supposed to be, well, frozen. Why is it that every day there are a bunch of replacements going on in that tree ? Actually, there seem to have been more bo/frozen changes in the last few days than there have been in hamm/unstable :) Because frozen realy means frozen in new features/packages, not in bug-fixes. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stable or not stable?
Eduardo Goyanes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in the unstable archives. When a.b.c and b is even the file is stable. Maybe version numbers suggests stable version, but 2.0.30 certanly isn't one. It introduced few memory problems, and pre-2.0.31 patch is almost required. Also pre-2.0.31 still has few problems, so if you don't need 100Mbps on ethernet I'll suggest sticking with 2.0.29. Debian stable tree contains stable release of lots of packages, and kernel is one of them. It is now about 3 months old, and next stable will come at Monday, 12th. In the mean time, between two stable releases, only security and/or global system stability fixes are accepted in that distribution tree, and 2.0.30 kernel doesn't belong to either. what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2? Get it from nearest kernel source mirror, unpack it in /usr/src, and compile it. Or try the one in unstable/frozen debian tree. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stable or not stable?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The latest Linux kernel versions available on ftp.funet.fi are 2.0.30 (stable) and 2.1.36 (unstable). These two kernels (2.0 and 2.1) are being developed in parallel, in an effort to avoid the stagnation we saw with 1.2 when 1.3 got going. The 2.0 kernel gets almost exclusively bugfix patches, though some new features have been added where the impetus was great enough. If you're using a 2.0 kernel because you want a stable kernel, it's in your best interest to use the highest-numbered 2.0 patchlevel. That was true, and will be true again, when pre-2.0.xx schema starts showing some results. But as of 2.0.30, it is not true! It isn't such a bad kernel, but you can run into big problems at memory shortage situations. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Can we upload binaries using libc6 to hamm yet?
Thomas Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What naming convention should I use? I can't very well upload two foo_2.1-1_i386.changes and foo_2.1-1_i386.deb files simultaneously. foo_2.1-1_i386-libc6.changes or .deb, maybe? Or should I just release the libc5 version as foo_2.1-1, and the libc6 version as foo_2.1-2? Argh. What about splitting release numbers for bo bug fixes? You can release foo_2.1-1 as libc5 and foo_2.1-2 as libc6 package. Next libc5 bug fix will be foo_2.1-1.1, and so on. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
New package/maintainer.
I decided to volunteer for debian project. So far I made a package rnetscape for remote controlling netscape navigator through X protocol. As I understood dpkg/debian documentation, I have to ask for an account at master to upload this package. Is this the place to ask? Regards, -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X and Keyboards
Hubert Palme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After upgrading to 1.2.7, X does only know a US keyboard. Where in the many configuration files can I tell X, that I have a German one -- and where can I read about it? Add line: XkbDisable to section Keyboard in file /etc/X11/XF86Config. This will disable Xkb extension from XFree86 3.2 wich itself disables xmodmap settings. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...
Re: Where is oldmitpthreads?
Josip Gracin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Two weeks ago there was an announcement of oldmitpthreads package which contains MIT Pthreads library. I haven't been able to find it since then. I have seen the recent list of packages still in Incoming but oldmitpthreads is not there. It just disappeared. Where is it? It's still ther (in Incomming unfortunately). ftp://master.debian.org/pub/Linux/Debian/Incoming/oldmitpthreads_0.0_i386.deb -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...
Re: /bin/sh != /bin/bash ? [was Re: zsh vs bash]
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /bin/sh and /bin/bash are not equivalent. bash is a superset of sh functionality. bash behaves differently depending on whether it is invoked as sh or as bash (at least the new version 2 does). bash when invoked as /bin/sh is more posix compliant. when invoked as /bin/bash, all the bash enhancements are available. But why would you want posix compliance, and bash extended features in the same time? If you really need bash enhancements in init.d and other misc scripts, invoke them with #!/bin/bash. On the other hand, if you want to make this scripts more portable (as they should be), then invoke them with /bin/sh, and do not use bash extended functionality. You can always try to run it with /bin/sh as zsh to check portability. e.g. /usr/sbin/dwww-doc-index from the dwww package doesn't work at all if the first line is '#! /bin/sh', but works correctly if the first line is '#! /bin/bash'. And that's correct IMO. If you start your script with /bin/sh than use it as posix compliant sh, if you want _any_ of other shells specific features, start your script with explicit call to that shell, and that'll make your script shell dependent, what it really is. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...
Re: zsh vs bash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James W. Lynch) writes: This subject brings up a question I've had for a long time. Bash appears to be the shell that I get when I log in as root or do an su command. I'm from the old school and prefer vi editing of commands, but I have yet to be able to make bash use vi as root. I've set EDITOR and FCEDIT. I've set editing-mode vi. I can't seem to get root to use anything but emacs editing mode. Is this a diabolical plot by the Linux developers to force emacs on the world? 8^) Bash works as expected, described and designed when I'm a normal user. Can I do it? How? I use vi as a root, and vi editing mode, but in zsh. Yes my root shell is zsh. Now days when zsh runs autoconf configure scripts I am even thinking to put it for /bin/sh instead of bash... heard that zsh developers do that. P.S. As a normal user I use xemacs, but of course in viper mode :-) -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...
Re: zsh vs bash
Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hosts=(valour cushioned myrddin tacitus chiark \ mercury.elmailer.net wigwam.elmail.co.uk sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk \ ftp.uu.net ftp.sendmail.org tlingit.elmail.co.uk) ssh=(chiark) compctl -k ssh ssh compctl -k hosts telnet ftp rlogin rsh ping traceroute compctl -k hosts -f rcp scp And I'll add my favorite: compctl -x n[1,~] -u -S / - n[1,//] -k hosts -S / - s[] \ -f -k (http:// ftp:// gopher:// telnet:// wais://) -S \ -- lynx Mosaic netscape compctl -x n[1,~] -u -S / - n[1,//] -k hosts -S / - s[] \ -k (http:// ftp://) -S -- wget rftp -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...
Re: More shared lib stuff
Walter L. Preuninger II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: to compile the program, I followed the elf-howto and just did a gcc -o example example.c You'll have to add -lmy_lib on the end of line, if you want to compile example with your shlib libmy_lib.so
Re: Help on getting Debian 1.0.27 to install.
Tony Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Fellow Debians: Hi! I can boot up from the Rescue disk but unable to complete base installation. I get the same error message after Debian finish copying the content on the fourth (last) disk. - gunzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated Error in archive format. Something went wrong. You might want to write down the error messages before you continue. Please press ENTER when you are ready. There was a problem extracting the floppy from /dev/fd0. -- Unfortunately, there are some errors on your base disks. Maybe there were bad sectors on them? Try to use other disks, and rawrite image on them. -- Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion...