Re: A Phone in Every Classroom Of Your School
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:26:37PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Pre Bett Show Release wrote: [snip] This email is an advertisement. To be removed from our list please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as your subject line How apropos, given the current discussion of SPAM or UCE. with a little effort and timing on our part, the entire list could unsubscribe at exactly the same time. that would be fun. :) A I'm not gonna be able to get to it until tonight or tomorrow, but I'll commit to it at this point. Thanks for the suggestion. xc -- ...many Americans are tired of borrowing huge amounts of money from China to buy huge amounts of oil from the Persian Gulf to make huge amounts of pollution that destroys the planet's climate. -Al Gore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'
I've wondered about that. Why aren't modern systems just moving straight to Unicode? Derek Martin wrote: On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote: I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr. The LANG variable sets the user's locale, which tells the system what language and local conventions for things like time, money, numbers, etc. the user prefers to use. The primary importance of this is to tell the system what character set the user is using (and therefore what characters the user can see on terminals, and such.) Modern systems are moving to UTF-8 environments, which makes the language part mostly irrelevant; it can display (almost) all characters in all supported languages, regardless of what language the user is using. However, ancient Unix systems used a locale of 'C', which uses the character set US-ASCII, and sorts things (like directory entries, for example) according to the ASCII sequence of characters. See the man page for locale in seciont 5 of the man pages for details: $ man 5 locale -- Truth Before Power! Justice Before Ambition! Earth First! http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think I'm supposed to say something about this package bug...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install jamvm Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: jamvm: Depends: classpath (= 2:0.13) but it is not going to be installed Depends: classpath-common (= 2:0.14) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printing on an MS printing network at work...?
Say, where I work we have what appears to be a print network set up for MS stuff, and my default configurations don't seem to allow me to say, print the same web page I can in FF on XP. Is there some trick to this? Perhaps is there a setup program? I'm using Ubuntu and Fedora actually, but I'm presuming the Ubuntu one is like Debian, and once I get that perhaps I can extrapolate for Fedora. All feedback is of course appreciated. Sincerely, Xeno xc -- Xeno Campanoli: http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno If at mid-stream your horse's nose is two feet under water, you damn well better swim or find a new horse! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: This seems impossible, but this formala is on the bottom of page 471 in CRC SMTaF...
Well, I wanted to insert a file and send it, but Thunderbird on Debian is S BRAINDEAD that the pulldown doesn't have that option. Sht! Bill Warner wrote: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/StatisticalMedian.html Xeno Campanoli wrote: CRC Standard Mathematical Tables and Formulae, 29th Edition... Mean - Mode = 3 ( Mean - Median) ? This is under the assertion: Empirical Relation Between Mean, Median, and Mode. I think the problem is the = sign is a typographical error, and perhaps should be something like ... actually I can't even seem to guess that. Surly not =. xc -- Xeno Campanoli: http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno The real disaster is ANY TIME WE GET A BUSH FOR PRESIDENT! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intermittent freezeup started this month, and is getting gradually more frequent.
Presumably I've got a memory leak. Anyone have a new and improved method to scope out this kind of problem? I had a long weak at work, and I cannot seem to remember what I might have added that would take up memory or do this otherwise. xc -- Xeno Campanoli: http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno The real disaster is ANY TIME WE GET A BUSH FOR PRESIDENT! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My pulldown windows have the options text whited out when the mouse is over 'em.
Sorry, but I'm only getting the problem on Thunderbird pulldowns it looks like, and the Desktop / Theme option doesn't seem to fix it. xc John Ceh wrote: My first guess would be to change your desktop theme to see if that fixes it. Not sure what your using, but for gnome it's under 'applications'- 'desktop prefrences' - 'theme'. That stopped firefox's menu from turning white for me. -- Xeno Campanoli: http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno The real disaster is ANY TIME WE GET A BUSH FOR PRESIDENT! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My pulldown windows have the options text whited out when the mouse is over 'em.
Yeah, I still don't have a solution to my thunderbird pulldown active option whiteout. Anybody else seeing this? Xeno Campanoli wrote: Sorry, but I'm only getting the problem on Thunderbird pulldowns it looks like, and the Desktop / Theme option doesn't seem to fix it. xc John Ceh wrote: My first guess would be to change your desktop theme to see if that fixes it. Not sure what your using, but for gnome it's under 'applications'- 'desktop prefrences' - 'theme'. That stopped firefox's menu from turning white for me. -- Xeno Campanoli: http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno The real disaster is ANY TIME WE GET A BUSH FOR PRESIDENT! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cannot configure my thunderbird signature.
The Account Settings / Composition and Addressing area has the signature field set to read only. I cannot find anything else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My pulldown windows have the options text whited out when the mouse is over 'em.
Is there some way to fix this, or is it just a standard feature of Debian perhaps? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Every fifth character blurred in text
I'm not that familiar with the kind of words I should use for this video problem with every sixth character blurred. I wonder if there's another word I should use for google searches? Can anyone make a suggestion? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: Every fifth character blurred in text]
---BeginMessage--- Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Xeno Campanoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not that familiar with the kind of words I should use for this video problem with every sixth character blurred. I wonder if there's another word I should use for google searches? Can anyone make a suggestion? Do you have an LCD screen? Is the resolution your card is running under the same as the resolution of the screen ? The effect you're describing can happen when e.g. you have a 1024x768 monitor and your graphics card is running in 800x600. That sounds like it could be it. I do have a sharp LCD screen. The recommended resolution stated on page 29 is 1280x1024. Looks like my highest resolution in the XF86Config-4 file is 1152x864. Can you suggest a good way to generate a new XF*-4 file? Mike. ---End Message---
Re: Fwd: Re: Every fifth character blurred in text
David Niemi wrote: On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 09:49 -0700, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Sorry, I keep sending to personal rather than debian-user. David's suggestion worked. Thank you David. I've got much better video now, and good window sizing. xc email message attachment (Re: Every fifth character blurred in text) On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 09:49 -0700, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Xeno Campanoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not that familiar with the kind of words I should use for this video problem with every sixth character blurred. I wonder if there's another word I should use for google searches? Can anyone make a suggestion? Do you have an LCD screen? Is the resolution your card is running under the same as the resolution of the screen ? The effect you're describing can happen when e.g. you have a 1024x768 monitor and your graphics card is running in 800x600. That sounds like it could be it. I do have a sharp LCD screen. The recommended resolution stated on page 29 is 1280x1024. Looks like my highest resolution in the XF86Config-4 file is 1152x864. Can you suggest a good way to generate a new XF*-4 file? Mike. You can edit this directly inserting the proper video modes into the "Screen" section following the same format as is already there. While there ensure that the proper HorizSync VertRefresh values are listed in the "Monitor" section. I have to do this with just about every distribution I install except knoppix which I used to find the most appropriate values for me.
Every fifth character blurred in text and window manager too large
I've got this install of Debian on my brand new emachine T3985 Desktop PC that never has been very good, and I'm finally forced now to work with it because my SuSE system had a disk failure. I've got the following problem with this Debian install: 1) still no sound, but this is the lowest priority, and I've worked on it far too much already, so please help me fix the other stuff first. 2) the window manager or X configuration is configured so the fonts and all my windows are still a little too big. 3) Every fifth or sixth text character is blurred and just generally text is grainy, so I think I have a video configuration problem 4) Some pulldown windows (thunderbird, for instance) have the pulldown window options go white when I have the mouse against them so I can't read the text of the option except when the mouse is NOT selecting it. Thank you for any help. Sincerely, Xeno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every fifth character blurred in text and window manager too large
Xeno Campanoli wrote: Kent West wrote: Xeno Campanoli wrote: I've got this install of Debian on my brand new emachine T3985 Desktop PC I have no idea what a T3985 is, or what hardware it has. Ok. Thanks. Here is the hardware it says on the box (and I include a web site link too): 340 Intel D Processor 340 2.93 GHz, 256 L2 Cache 533 MHz FSB Video Intel Extreme Graphics 2, 3D It's got the video and sound integrated into the motherboard. The LCD monitor I'm trying to use works fine when I plug it into my already installed SuSE system (which has crashed and gone now, or at least mostly, as the drive seems to be toast). Monitor is listed as Shapr LL193. http://compreviews.about.com/od/budgetdesk/gr/eMachinesT3985.htm snip 3) Every fifth or sixth text character is blurred and just generally text is grainy, so I think I have a video configuration problem 4) Some pulldown windows (thunderbird, for instance) have the pulldown window options go white when I have the mouse against them so I can't read the text of the option except when the mouse is NOT selecting it. dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and/or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86-common and/or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and tinker with the video settings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restore default permissions to /usr/bin /usr/sbin
Xeno Campanoli wrote: phyrster wrote: Hi Debianers, Hmm. Does that make us all Debianaire? After an installation of Realplayer in /usr, I noticed that file permissions under this dir is changed. Particulary, users can't read into /usr/bin and I suspect that /usr/sbin is affected as well. I've got 755 setting for these directories, so you change these back to that with chmod 755 /usr/*bin, but be careful, as if you have added another directory (unlikely) like /usr/xbin, it will affect that too, so more safe is: chmod 755 /usr/bin chmod 755 /usr/bin The meaning for each digit is for user, group, and other, respectively, where the 4 bit is for read, the 2 is for write, and the 1 is for executable permissions. Hence group and other can read these directories in these cases, as well as execute from them. You probably want at least execute privileges in these directories, and read doesn't likely hurt as it's the same software as on hundreds of other machines around the world, but setting 711 would make group and other be execute only. Could anyone tell me what is the default permissions of these three directories in Sarge: /usr /usr/bin /usr/sbin. And preferably the command that sets permissions. chmod command is a bit scaring as I am still learning the most efficient parameters/options to run this command for such task. I've got 755 for /usr too. Thank you. Glad to make a contribution. xc bxuef -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno The Internet: I'd rather have Al invent it than have George take it over. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound and Video Problems still with my T3985 Desktop PC
Am I perhaps reading this amixer output wrong? It looks like it's unresponsive. Xeno Campanoli wrote: Okay, I booted it up in the distribution version of Windows and got to the sound test, and the sound test worked. So, hardware is okay and my connections are okay. Also, I tried amixer suggestions you made in the other post to Mr. Green. Here are my results after going back and doing these things again from the Debian boot: joehill:~# amixer set Headphone 50 unmute Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 63 Front Left: Playback 50 [79%] [on] Front Right: Playback 50 [79%] [on] joehill:~# amixer set PCM 100 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [off] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [off] I then ran aplayer as follows (with no resulting sound): joehill:~# aplay /usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-player1-shoot.mp3 Playing raw data '/usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-player1-shoot.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono joehill:~# aplay /usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-sink.mp3 Playing raw data '/usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-sink.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono My Amixer list you suggested was: joehill:~# amixer | grep 'Simple mixer' Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Simple mixer control '3D Control - Center',0 Simple mixer control '3D Control - Depth',0 Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0 Simple mixer control 'Video',0 Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0 Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Simple mixer control 'Mix',0 Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0 Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 I did the command: joehill:~# amixer set Master 50 Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 63 Front Left: Playback 50 [79%] [on] Front Right: Playback 50 [79%] [on] joehill:~# amixer | grep 'Simple mixer' Simple mixer control 'Master',0 ... I guess it looks like something won't let the settings change. Is there a thing to turn on that allows writing to settings? Thanks once again for any feedback. At this point, since with help I've proved my hardware works, I'm not in quite so much of a hurry, but it would be nice to get this going this week. sincerely, Xeno So you can see, it seems to have no effect. Mark Fletcher wrote: On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:44, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Okay, it has been over a week since I had time to work on this. Please accept my apologies, but I've been busy. The previous title was: Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem: apparently I don't have the alsa modules up yet after all among others. I'm going to systematically recapitulate for myself, and sharing, the settings I have achieved so far for sound (the video problem is one of blurring digits, and I'll get to that later if I have time). joehill:~# lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) :00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) :01:02.0 Communication controller: Conexant: Unknown device 2f20 :01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02) joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted snd-intel8x0 19584 1
Re: Sound and Video Problems still with my T3985 Desktop PC
Okay, I booted it up in the distribution version of Windows and got to the sound test, and the sound test worked. So, hardware is okay and my connections are okay. Also, I tried amixer suggestions you made in the other post to Mr. Green. Here are my results after going back and doing these things again from the Debian boot: joehill:~# amixer set Headphone 50 unmute Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 63 Front Left: Playback 50 [79%] [on] Front Right: Playback 50 [79%] [on] joehill:~# amixer set PCM 100 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [off] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [off] I then ran aplayer as follows (with no resulting sound): joehill:~# aplay /usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-player1-shoot.mp3 Playing raw data '/usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-player1-shoot.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono joehill:~# aplay /usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-sink.mp3 Playing raw data '/usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-sink.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono My Amixer list you suggested was: joehill:~# amixer | grep 'Simple mixer' Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Simple mixer control '3D Control - Center',0 Simple mixer control '3D Control - Depth',0 Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0 Simple mixer control 'Video',0 Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0 Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Simple mixer control 'Mix',0 Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0 Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 I did the command: joehill:~# amixer set Master 50 Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 63 Front Left: Playback 50 [79%] [on] Front Right: Playback 50 [79%] [on] joehill:~# amixer | grep 'Simple mixer' Simple mixer control 'Master',0 ... I guess it looks like something won't let the settings change. Is there a thing to turn on that allows writing to settings? Thanks once again for any feedback. At this point, since with help I've proved my hardware works, I'm not in quite so much of a hurry, but it would be nice to get this going this week. sincerely, Xeno So you can see, it seems to have no effect. Mark Fletcher wrote: On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:44, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Okay, it has been over a week since I had time to work on this. Please accept my apologies, but I've been busy. The previous title was: Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem: apparently I don't have the alsa modules up yet after all among others. I'm going to systematically recapitulate for myself, and sharing, the settings I have achieved so far for sound (the video problem is one of blurring digits, and I'll get to that later if I have time). joehill:~# lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) :00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) :01:02.0 Communication controller: Conexant: Unknown device 2f20 :01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02) joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted snd-intel8x0 19584 1 snd-ac97-codec 59576 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-pcm-oss38176 0 snd-mixer-oss
Sound and Video Problems still with my T3985 Desktop PC
oss on it, like: above sound-slot-0 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-oss . . . above sound-slot-7 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss . . . alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss and I wonder if I need to delete these or comment them out...? There is a whole mess of different discover files and directories in here too, including a /etc/default/discover, /etc/init.d.discover, discover.d, and discover.conf.d, and discover-v1.conf, and discover.conf-2.6 and discover-modprobe.conf. I wonder if I just deleted all those things if it might somehow improve the state of politics in the world. Anyhow, if anybody out there could get me a little further with this additional information, I'd sure appeciate it. I'd like to know I can really use this machine before the takeback time (next Friday is the last day) comes due. Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound and Video Problems still with my T3985 Desktop PC
Xeno Campanoli wrote: Okay, it has been over a week since I had time to work on this. Please accept my apologies, but I've been busy. The previous title was: I was UNsuccessful at making the sound work by commenting out the above.*oss lines from my modules.conf file. I get no difference in behavior. I also checked, and in the discover.d file, the alsa-base file has the skip i810_audio line, so I think it must be something else. I am being called away, but I should be able to give this more solid time tomorrow, especially evening, if anybody has any ideas. xc Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem: apparently I don't have the alsa modules up yet after all among others. I'm going to systematically recapitulate for myself, and sharing, the settings I have achieved so far for sound (the video problem is one of blurring digits, and I'll get to that later if I have time). joehill:~# lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) :00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) :01:02.0 Communication controller: Conexant: Unknown device 2f20 :01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02) joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted snd-intel8x0 19584 1 snd-ac97-codec 59576 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-pcm-oss38176 0 snd-mixer-oss 13432 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm59272 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14148 0 [snd-pcm] snd34276 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 4 [snd] snd-page-alloc 4936 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd] input 3648 0 (autoclean) i830 68476 1 agpgart46244 10 (autoclean) apm 9964 0 (autoclean) parport_pc 23880 1 (autoclean) lp 6724 0 (autoclean) parport26504 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] af_packet 13000 1 (autoclean) usb-storage65088 0 (unused) e100 50036 1 ehci-hcd 18412 0 (unused) usb-uhci 23344 0 (unused) usbcore62924 1 [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci] sd_mod 11756 0 (unused) scsi_mod 95108 2 [usb-storage sd_mod] ide-cd 31296 0 cdrom 29828 0 [ide-cd] rtc 6440 0 (autoclean) ext3 81068 5 (autoclean) jbd42468 5 (autoclean) [ext3] ide-detect 288 0 (autoclean) (unused) piix9096 2 (autoclean) ide-disk 16800 6 (autoclean) ide-core 108568 6 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-detect piix ide-disk] unix 14960 218 (autoclean) Okay, as before the symptom is I can play the songs on a Duke Ellington CD, but the tracks show playing with no actual sound coming out. The program I'm using is CD Player under Multimedia under the Applications pulldown. We determined previously that no cables were obviously connected badly (I have a green sound cable going into the appropriately labeled line out green plug in the back of the machine, and you'll see by the specs on the net (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:9PkH8iJNtvQJ:www.cyberscholar.com/eMachines/doc/spring05_3985_SF.pdf+T3985+Desktop+PC+hl=en) that the thing has on-board sound and the bios has this enabled (just checke again). My friend Bill Warner suggested these problems may happen from some kind of conflict with the video driver, and that my problems might be best solved if I install Sid (test) instead of sarge, but I'd like to have sarge going because I want to use the system to help QA web stuff from
Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem: apparently I don't have the alsa modules up yet after all
Jonathan Kaye wrote: En/La Xeno Campanoli ha escrit, a 29/06/05 07:30: Have you run #alsaconf ? What happens when you do? It shows: │ intel8x0 Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5 │ │ legacy Probe legacy ISA (non-PnP) chips │ are my cards, though they are in the motherboard Ok, you are making progress. When you ran alsaconf, did you select the intel8x0 card? If yes, did alsaconf complete successfully? It usually says something like now your driver is installed, enjoy! Is that what happened? joehill:~# alsaconf Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc. Building card database... Running update-modules... depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/updates/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/updates/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/updates/alsa/snd-vxp440.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/updates/alsa/snd-vxpocket.o Loading driver... Setting up ALSA...done. Setting default volumes... === Now ALSA is ready to use. For adjustment of volumes, use your favorite mixer. Have a lot of fun! --- Yeah. As you can see, it shows some unresolved symbols. Otherwise, it seems to have run well. I cannot cut and paste the curses windows of course, but I think I answered those correctly. Assuming that this is true, you can run alsamixer (no need to be root) and adjust the setting to your taste. Voilà you should have sound. I'm really sorry. It still behaves the same. I did run alsamixer, and set all the items that moved to the top of their green zones. I tried aplay on some things in the :/usr/share/apps/kolf/sounds# directory. They seem to process, but I get no sound. The easiest way to test this is to type aplay [path to some .wav file] and you should here it. Once you do become root again (su or whatever) and type alsactl store and that's it. Have fun. If you still have problems please be very specific about what they are. Vague statements are very unhelpful. Yeah, I know. Specifically, I have the same behavior as before. The aplay yields no sound. The CD player shows it running along songs on a Duke Ellington disk, but no sound comes out. Again I tried my other set of speakers and nothing. All behavior is the same. No sound. Cheers, Jonathan I still get this output from lsmod: joehill:/usr/share/apps/kolf/sounds# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted snd-intel8x0 19584 1 snd-ac97-codec 59576 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-pcm-oss38176 0 snd-mixer-oss 13432 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm59272 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14148 0 [snd-pcm] snd34276 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 4 [snd] snd-page-alloc 4936 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd] input 3648 0 (autoclean) i830 68476 1 agpgart46244 11 (autoclean) apm 9964 1 (autoclean) parport_pc 23880 1 (autoclean) lp 6724 0 (autoclean) parport26504 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] af_packet 13000 1 (autoclean) usb-storage65088 0 (unused) e100 50036 1 ehci-hcd 18412 0 (unused) usb-uhci 23344 0 (unused) usbcore62924 1 [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci] sd_mod 11756 0 (unused) scsi_mod 95108 2 [usb-storage sd_mod] ide-cd 31296 0 cdrom 29828 0 [ide-cd] rtc 6440 0 (autoclean) ext3 81068 5 (autoclean) jbd42468 5 (autoclean) [ext3] ide-detect 288 0 (autoclean) (unused) piix9096 2 (autoclean) ide-disk 16800 6 (autoclean) ide-core 108568 6 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-detect piix ide-disk] unix 14960 217 (autoclean) I'm going to be for now. I'll check this stuff tomorrow night. I was tired tonight, so I may have missed something obvious. Perhaps tomorrow I'll have a couple quality hours after work to check things. Thanks again for the feedback. Sincerely, Xeno -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject
[Fwd: Re: Sound problem: apparently I don't have the alsa modules up yet after all
Let me preface this post with an apology for inappropriately sending to private emails without checking rather than just directly to the list. I'll make an effort to be more careful in the future. I have now got the kernel updated to a -686 thing, and have the corresponding modules, ... it seems I still have to figure out the alsa file stuff from the configuration page. Nothing works yet, but I do have a mess of configuration stuff to check (http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html#sargestock). Rebooting with the new kernel and modules got the lsmod listing with snd-* files, but no sound yet. I'm trying to follow the instructions on this link: (http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html#sargestock). I seem to have everything in order. I've attached my /etc/modules.conf file in case that is of interest. I would sure appreciate further feedback on this. I also did the chmod a+rw setting specified on that instruction page. I know this is a drag guys, but I'd appreciate more feedback if you can stand it. Sincerely, Xeno I've got three jacks together on my T3985 (Celeron system with all the stuff in the motherboard): My new debian system doesn't relay any sound to my speakers. I've tried two sets of speakers, and both sets work on my other system's cd drive jack. The sound plug area in the back of my new system has three holes, and the line out output is the same green plastic as the male part on the wire to the speakers. The other two holes say MIC (orange) and line out (light blue). Another system I recently tried to install linux on also could not put sound out and it also had the same three jack holes (apparently that's popular now?). I wonder if the driver expects only one or two holes and is confused by seeing three? I've looked at some postings about problems like this, and none seems to match mine exactly. One said the guy could play on root, but I tried that with cdplay start on this, and it still didn't make noise. I'm not sure what else to look for. I think the special files are /dev/dsp*, and I changed these to protection 666. I run CD Player to test the sound and it runs and identifies a Duke Ellington CD, but the sound just don't come out even though it shows the CD playing. I'm not sure if the drivers for audio are all there. The only thing I see is something called soundcore, but perhaps that's all that's needed: snip Dear Xeno, I'm running Debian Etch and have a similar 3 plug arrangement in back. One for the mike and sound left, sound right. It might help if you gave us a bit of info on your system. Which Debian are you running? Have you installed alsa (lots of postings about how to do that). The more info you give the easier it is to help. Jonathan I'm running Sarge, and I just installed it this weekend. I did install alsa, but I don't know if the test program I'm running is an alsa program. It's the CD Player in the multimedia pulldown, which seemed like the simplest one to try (and there is another thats a command line one I tried.) -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem: apparently I don't have the alsa modules up yet after all
Jonathan Kaye wrote: Please be specific. a "-686 thing" doesn't help. Can you run $uname -a and post the result? Linux joehill 2.4.27-2-686 #1 Mon May 16 17:03:22 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux it seems I still have to figure out the alsa file stuff from the configuration page. Nothing works yet, but I do have a mess of configuration stuff to check (http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html#sargestock). Rebooting with the new kernel and modules got the lsmod listing with snd-* files, but no sound yet. I'm trying to follow the instructions on this link: can you post the result of $lsmod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted input 3648 0 (autoclean) i830 68476 1 agpgart 46244 11 (autoclean) apm 9964 1 (autoclean) parport_pc 23880 1 (autoclean) lp 6724 0 (autoclean) parport 26504 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] af_packet 13000 1 (autoclean) usb-storage 65088 0 (unused) e100 50036 1 snd-intel8x0 19584 1 snd-ac97-codec 59576 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-pcm-oss 38176 0 snd-mixer-oss 13432 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm 59272 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14148 0 [snd-pcm] snd 34276 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 4 [snd] snd-page-alloc 4936 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd] ehci-hcd 18412 0 (unused) usb-uhci 23344 0 (unused) usbcore 62924 1 [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci] sd_mod 11756 0 (unused) scsi_mod 95108 2 [usb-storage sd_mod] ide-cd 31296 0 cdrom 29828 0 [ide-cd] rtc 6440 0 (autoclean) ext3 81068 5 (autoclean) jbd 42468 5 (autoclean) [ext3] ide-detect 288 0 (autoclean) (unused) piix 9096 2 (autoclean) ide-disk 16800 6 (autoclean) ide-core 108568 6 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-detect piix ide-disk] unix 14960 219 (autoclean) (http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html#sargestock). I seem to have everything in order. I've attached my /etc/modules.conf file in case that is of interest. I would sure appreciate further feedback on this. I also did the chmod a+rw setting specified on that instruction page. I know this is a drag guys, but I'd appreciate more feedback if you can stand it. Have you run #alsaconf ? What happens when you do? It shows: intel8x0 Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5 legacy Probe legacy ISA (non-PnP) chips are my "cards", though they are in the motherboard Here's the lsmod now: joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted snd-intel8x0 19584 1 snd-ac97-codec 59576 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-pcm-oss 38176 0 snd-mixer-oss 13432 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm 59272 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14148 0 [snd-pcm] snd 34276 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 4 [snd] snd-page-alloc 4936 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd] input 3648 0 (autoclean) i830 68476 1 agpgart 46244 11 (autoclean) apm 9964 1 (autoclean) parport_pc 23880 1 (autoclean) lp 6724 0 (autoclean) parport 26504 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] af_packet 13000 1 (autoclean) usb-storage 65088 0 (unused) e100 50036 1 ehci-hcd 18412 0 (unused) usb-uhci 23344 0 (unused) usbcore 62924 1 [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci] sd_mod 11756 0 (unused) scsi_mod 95108 2 [usb-storage sd_mod] ide-cd 31296 0 cdrom 29828 0 [ide-cd] rtc 6440 0 (autoclean) ext3 81068 5 (autoclean) jbd 42468 5 (autoclean) [ext3] ide-detect 288 0 (autoclean) (unused) piix 9096 2 (autoclean) ide-disk 16800 6 (autoclean) ide-core 108568 6 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-detect piix ide-disk] unix 14960 217 (autoclean) Cheers, Jonathan I think you guys don't like attachments, otherwise I could attach the entire modules.conf file. Thanks for any feedback. Sincerely, Xeno -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cannot get my X reasonably configured
X configuration lousy. Please somebody suggest to me something to make a good X configuration for good graphic hardware. This xf86config POS just won't do it. xc -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: I cannot get my X reasonably configured]
Original Message Subject:Re: I cannot get my X reasonably configured Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:52:00 -0700 From: Xeno Campanoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: FreeSCOTER To: Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clive Menzies wrote: On (26/06/05 09:44), Xeno Campanoli wrote: X configuration lousy. Please somebody suggest to me something to make a good X configuration for good graphic hardware. This xf86config POS just won't do it. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I get X up, but it only displays as this grainy mess with three 2inch icons. Nothing I've done with xf86config, nor with edits, seems to make a difference. Please see that I've tried to answer all your questions below, and I've included a URL to the web page representing the machine I bought at CompUSA yesterday. At this point, I figure I'll keep trying until next Saturday, and then take it back if I can't make it go. I've not been able to find anything that specifies an amount of memory devoted to the video. I am naively assuming it just takes from main memory. Thank you for any more feedback, and for informing me about lspci, which I was ignorant of. Hi Xeno Can you be more specific about 'good graphic hardware'. This URL seems to properly represent my machine: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=119863WT.mc_n=4WT.mc_t=Ucom.broadvision.session.new=YesBV_UseBVCookie=No The output of $ lspci would help. I had no idea there was an lspci. Thank you and please excuse my ignorance: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Inter :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics D :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (re :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (re :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (re :00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (re :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Contr :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 St :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Co :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02 :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC :01:02.0 Communication controller: Conexant: Unknown device 2f20 :01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller And a look at the output of $ cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep (EE) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep '(EE)' (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. Here (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse That doesn't make any sense, because The mouse works. The main symptom is I get a grainy configuration (2 inch icons) and no matter what I change, it doesn't change the sizing. There is something regarding the configuration, perhaps that it won't talk to the video chipset which is on the motherboard, that just won't let X come up as anything but this grainy worthless thing with three 2 inch icons. Here is my XF86config (excuse me for including all of it): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/X11/XF86Config # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use
Re: [Fwd: Re: I cannot get my X reasonably configured] - problem solved / thanks everyone for the help
Kent West wrote: I guess not. But I'd like to know what the name of the right tool is...? Unless the file has been manually tweaked, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common is probably what you want, depending on which part of X you're reconfiguring. I actually just ran something Phil Hughes dug up called dexconf, which is probably part of the sequence you suggest above, and after also inserting the correct mouse device into the correct file I got things going. I don't know if it was the former, the latter, or both actions that got me there, but my workstation has a completely reasonably looking desktop at this point. Thanks to all for the feedback. Sincerely, Xeno -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound problem: My green output jack doesn't relay any data.
I've got three jacks together on my T3985 (Celeron system with all the stuff in the motherboard): My new debian system doesn't relay any sound to my speakers. I've tried two sets of speakers, and both sets work on my other system's cd drive jack. The sound plug area in the back of my new system has three holes, and the line out output is the same green plastic as the male part on the wire to the speakers. The other two holes say MIC (orange) and line out (light blue). Another system I recently tried to install linux on also could not put sound out and it also had the same three jack holes (apparently that's popular now?). I wonder if the driver expects only one or two holes and is confused by seeing three? I've looked at some postings about problems like this, and none seems to match mine exactly. One said the guy could play on root, but I tried that with cdplay start on this, and it still didn't make noise. I'm not sure what else to look for. I think the special files are /dev/dsp*, and I changed these to protection 666. I run CD Player to test the sound and it runs and identifies a Duke Ellington CD, but the sound just don't come out even though it shows the CD playing. I'm not sure if the drivers for audio are all there. The only thing I see is something called soundcore, but perhaps that's all that's needed: joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted soundcore 3268 0 (autoclean) input 3040 0 (autoclean) i830 57852 2 agpgart39108 11 (autoclean) apm 8428 1 (autoclean) parport_pc 19432 1 (autoclean) lp 5540 0 (autoclean) parport21608 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted soundcore 3268 0 (autoclean) input 3040 0 (autoclean) i830 57852 2 agpgart39108 11 (autoclean) apm 8428 1 (autoclean) parport_pc 19432 1 (autoclean) lp 5540 0 (autoclean) parport21608 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] af_packet 11048 1 (autoclean) usb-storage54496 0 (unused) ehci-hcd 14764 0 (unused) usb-uhci 19504 0 (unused) usbcore52268 1 [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci] ide-scsi8272 0 e100 42868 1 sd_mod 10764 0 (unused) scsi_mod 86052 3 [usb-storage ide-scsi sd_mod] ide-cd 27072 0 cdrom 26212 0 [ide-cd] rtc 5768 0 (autoclean) ext3 65388 5 (autoclean) jbd34628 5 (autoclean) [ext3] ide-detect 288 0 (autoclean) (unused) piix7784 2 (autoclean) ide-disk 12448 6 (autoclean) ide-core 91832 6 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-scsi ide-cd ide-detect piix ide-disk] unix 12752 221 (autoclean) joehill:~ # Thank you for any feedback. Sincerely, Xeno -- Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals death. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get install won't recover from removal of apache directory in /etc/
Not only that, it seems to have deleted the one I stowed in /etc/old which I was gonna use to recover from. xc Truth before Power!
RE: apt-get install won't recover from removal of apache directory in /etc/
Okay: It was me that moved the directory to the wrong place: /apache. When I put it back, it does recover fine. Here's the diagnostic when I take it away: # apt-get install apache Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: apache 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/384kB of archives. After unpacking 717kB of additional disk space will be used. Preconfiguring packages ... Selecting previously deselected package apache. (Reading database ... 29712 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking apache (from .../apache_1.3.33-6_i386.deb) ... grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory Stopping web server: apacheNo process in pidfile `/var/run/apache.pid' found running; none killed. . Setting up apache (1.3.33-6) ... Not replacing deleted config file /etc/apache/httpd.conf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/apache/srm.conf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/apache/access.conf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/apache/modules.conf Can't open config file /etc/apache/httpd.conf. No such file or directory Can't open config file /etc/apache/httpd.conf. No such file or directory /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst: line 7: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst: line 7: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst: line 7: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst: line 7: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory Configuration syntax error detected. Not reloading. fopen: No such file or directory apache: could not open document config file /etc/apache/httpd.conf invoke-rc.d: initscript apache, action start failed. I'm taking the bus home in a minute, but I'll be at [EMAIL PROTECTED] there. -Original Message- From: Roberto C. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:19 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: apt-get install won't recover from removal of apache directory in /etc/ On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 06:11:46PM -0700, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Not only that, it seems to have deleted the one I stowed in /etc/old which I was gonna use to recover from. The exact error message would be immensely helpful. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New install doesn't see DHCP
I just tried a new Sarge install here at my job this time. Now I'm having a different problem. The installer seems to execute? dhcp connections alright, at least on the initial cd install (it for instance, gets the domain name correct in the guess for that value, and ifconfig gives an ip address of 172.24.134.214, and it sticks three nameserver ipaddrs in resolv.conf, and I can ping all of these), but when I reboot to engage in the network installation activity, and it gets to the dhcp section, it fails as follows: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 and there are some ten of those with varying intervals until it finally gives up with: No DHCP OFFERS received No working leases in persistent database Exiting. Failed to bring up eth1. and I end up with no network. Perhaps this is a simple problem, but I'm not seeing what it is. The net-dead system has the same resolver stuff, but ifconfig doesn't show a normal ipv4 address (no ip address at all, just a hw one). I can ifconfig the eth1, but it no longer sees anything outside. This behavior is completely consistent, so it certainly makes me WANT to blame it on the install, and not on the LAN here, but who knows. Maybe the install makes some assumptions about open security that the production configuration does not. At any rate,...Help! Please of course. Sincerely, Xeno xc -- Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals doom. Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DHCP problem where ip address is assigned to wrong NIC on reboot
I got a real whacky one. This old machine I've got has two NICs, and during install I assign eth1 to be the one used, and it gets the ip address from DHCP. Well, after the reboot, that same IP address is assigned to eth0, and I get no network. I've solved this by switching the cable over and rebooting, but it sounds like a bug, so I thought I'd mention it. The machine I'm running is an old thing with 92 meg of memory, but presumably it's not the memory that is confusing DHCP, but just the two NICS. Perhaps nobody has two NICs anymore? xc -- Pride before justice equals destabilization. Power before truthequals destruction. Profit before environment equals doom. Xeno Campanoli, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .NET
ian wrote: I had the 'opportunity' of attending a micro$oft.net seminar yesterday. Are they serious? From what i understand these people intend to take over the INTERNET. They've invested a lot of money in this venture and expects great returns. Many companies have already jumped on the XP tablet band wagon and the .NET authentication :(, (poor souls). Are people still that gullable? The only future for microcrap should be bankrupcy. ian 'Microsoft released Windows XP on Oct. 25, 2001. That same day in what may be a record, the company posted 18 megabytes of patches on its Website, Why Software is so Bad, by Charles C. Mann If you don't think the people of this country are that gullible and if you really think Microsoft could never really take over the world you must not have been listing last night as Congress pissed on our Constitution. -- When old people get angry, young people get hurt. No Bush, no war! http://WWW.Eskimo.Com/~Xeno http://NoBushNoWar.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NOSQL
I asked this before, and the only answer I got was some obscure crack in German. Is NOSQL still a useful thing, and/or is anyone using it? If so, what kinds of projects is it used for? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trouble with default stable kernel upgrade
Say, I had problems with my default upgrade this afternoon. I'd already installed an earlier 2.2.19 kernel, and it wanted to put a new one in. It did give a warning, but the upshot was I got a modules directory that wouldn't talk to the NIC on my laptop (Toshiba 2715XDVD Satellite; the NIC is Xircom / pcmcia). The dang thing did warn me to move the /lib/modules/2.2.19 directory, which I didn't do the first time, and after doing that things worked. Perhaps it's therefore not a bug, but I kindof would think this should just work on it's own for stable. Just thought I'd mention it. Any feedback is welcome. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Say, I'm not seeing my postings today
What's the buzz? Is the mailer slow again? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NOSQL
Eric G. Miller wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 04:52:10PM -0700, Xeno Campanoli wrote: I asked this before, and the only answer I got was some obscure crack in German. Is NOSQL still a useful thing, and/or is anyone using it? If so, what kinds of projects is it used for? As a database management system, it has some shortcomings (performance, type checking, blah, blah, blah feature). I suppose someone must've found it useful (the author, the Debian packager). Much of the functionality can be had with cut, paste, join, sort, and uniq. When I looked at it, it didn't seem to provide alot of added value over textutils... The biggest benefit was all data was stored in plain text files (portability). So it doesn't sound like anyone's actually used it for real work; at least not recently? -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why 2.2 kernel instead of 2.4
I did. I didn't find the answer to my question. Can you tell me which section explains the reasons why Debian still uses a 2.2.20 kernel by default instead of a 2.4 kernel like most other distros? Actually, I can't get 2.2.20 by default. I don't see it on stable, and last time I asked about it I was told to get it off testing. Kindof bad since security listings strongly recommend updating production systems to 2.2.20. There is definitely some unfortunate imperfection in maintenance of stable, IMHO. Nevertheless, I'm still happy to put up with Debian's foibles, as it has a lot of nice features and I think the whole environment is very promising. I keep saying I hope to help out more some day, and I'm not there yet, but I hope to, and more development and QA help is what Debian really needs. I think the direction it is going, despite some glaring problems, is great. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want Source Files for Dselect and DebConf
And I can't seem to find it on the Debian Website. Any suggestions? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NOSQL (was Re: simple database?)
Is anyone out there actually using NoSQL? It looks interesting to me. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attn. Accounting/President
Rob Weir wrote: [wrapped for your viewing pleasure] On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 12:08:56PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Aaron Welch . I am Vice-President and Co-Founder of The Source-Funding Group. After visiting your website and researching ^ ^^^ My vote for funniest spam quote this week. I second. -rob -- I did not vote for the Australian government. Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature Encoding: 7bit -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: ip checksum (offtopic)
Tim locke wrote:
Hey, Can someone show me an working example on how ip
checksum is computed? I'm having a hard time figuring
it out...
thanks
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Here's one I pulled off Google:
/*
**
Function: ip_sum_calc
Description: Calculate the 16 bit IP sum.
***
*/
typedef unsigned short u16;
typedef unsigned long u32;
u16 ip_sum_calc(u16 len_ip_header, u16 buff[])
{
u16 word16;
u32 sum=0;
u16 i;
// make 16 bit words out of every two adjacent 8 bit words in
the packet
// and add them up
for (i=0;ilen_ip_header;i=i+2){
word16 =((buff[i]8)0xFF00)+(buff[i+1]0xFF);
sum = sum + (u32) word16;
}
// take only 16 bits out of the 32 bit sum
while (sum16)
sum = (sum 0x)+(sum 16);
// one's complement the result
sum = ~sum;
return ((u16) sum);
}
Which has the URI:
http://www.netfor2.com/ipsum.htm
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browser tries to download php test file info.php
Say, I'm stuck making PHP go. As per instructions on page 43 of Converse and Park, I made an info.php file, but when I specify it's URI, the browser just tries to download it. I've got the Addtype(s) in Apache, and I've got valid /etc/php4/*/php.ini files (the * gives apache and cgi directories), and I've protected /var/www as per the instructions. So what gives? Is this a simple omission, or am I broken? Is this obvious? TIA. Sincerely, Xeno -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: browser tries to download php test file info.php
ktb wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 10:05:09PM -0800, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Say, I'm stuck making PHP go. As per instructions on page 43 of Converse and Park, I made an info.php file, but when I specify it's URI, the browser just tries to download it. I've got the Addtype(s) in Apache, and I've got valid /etc/php4/*/php.ini files (the * gives apache and cgi directories), and I've protected /var/www as per the instructions. So what gives? Is this a simple omission, or am I broken? Is this obvious? Have you uncommented - LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so in /etc/apache/httpd.conf and restarted Apache? Yes: # LoadModule pgsql_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_pgsql.so # LoadModule eaccess_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_eaccess.so LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so # LoadModule roaming_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_roaming.so I tried restarting it both with /etc/init.d/apache restart and /etc/init.d/apache start after killing it manually. Both times same thing. Netscape just pops up a window to write the info.php file to a local file. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: browser tries to download php test file info.php
My AddType line was somehow wrong. I took Osamu's version and deleted some of my stuff and now it goes. Thanks everyone. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
pg_ctl not found on my Potato with PostgreSQL
Anybody know postgreSQL? Does the version that runs on 2.2 kernels just have some other administrator program, or is this broken? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: pg_ctl not found on my Potato with PostgreSQL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know postgreSQL? Does the version that runs on 2.2 kernels just have some other administrator program, or is this broken? Try /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_ctl. Plenty of postgres goodies in that directory... Yeah, I've already looked there. It has other administrative goodies, but not pg_ctl, so presumably the Potato version you get is just older or something. machine:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin# ls cleardbdir destroyuser pg_dump pg_version postmaster createdb do.maintenance pg_dumpall pgtclsh psql createlang enable_pgpl pg_encoding pgtksh save_db_schema createuser initdb pg_idpostgresvacuumdb destroydbinitlocationpg_passwdpostgresql-dump destroylang ipccleanpg_upgrade postgresql-startup is what I've got there. - Chris ** This electronic mail is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it immediately. It may also contain confidential information. You may not use or disclose any confidential information. The statements or views expressed in this electronic mail are those of the individual sender and are not those of AAP Pty Ltd. These statements are not binding on AAP, except where the sender expressly and with authority, states them to be. AAP is unable to review the contents of all of the electronic mail on its system. To the extent permitted by law, AAP disclaims all liability for any loss or damage caused by the contents of this electronic mail. ** -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Neil Darlow wrote: On 3/7/02, 12:42:05 PM, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: How is creating the symlinks yourself any less clean than using a program to create the symlinks automatically? I think this is mostly a difference of opinion. Simply, that by using update-rc.d no knowledge of the directory structure of /etc/rcN.d or /etc/init.d is required. The utility also makes acceptable assumptions depending on how much command line information is provided. Sorry, but I concur with this. Most of programming is defining some kind of interface to something else, and a valuable thing to do is to use the highest reasonable level of abstraction to simplify the task. If you show a specific value to doing the symlinks by hand for a specific circumstance it may be a good idea, but I think it's a bad generalized idea. In addition to this it's valuable to have a good vocabulary grasp of the tools that your peers are using as a standard. Best wishes. Sincerely, Xeno Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint = 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Michael Marziani wrote: As I was recently told by a posting by Cameron Kerr: ~# update-rc.d usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] basename remove update-rc.d [-n] [-f] basename defaults [NN | sNN kNN] update-rc.d [-n] [-f] basename start|stop NN runlvl runlvl . ... -n: not really -f: force And as he stated, the . is part of the name, yes. I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? Thanks! -Mike _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: home directory permissions
Gary Hennigan wrote: Charlie Grosvenor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have just used the command adduser to add some users to my system. I have noticed that each user added has read rights to other users home directory. Why is this? how can i stop adduser from creating home directories with these permissions? Actually, I think you just change the permissions in the file /etc/skel. I'm not sure though, so let us all know if that works. There may be a umask thing you'll want to change too. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: home directory permissions
Xeno Campanoli wrote: Actually, I think you just change the permissions in the file Sorry! I meant in the directory /etc/skel! Bleh! /etc/skel. I'm not sure though, so let us all know if that works. There may be a umask thing you'll want to change too. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: rc.local equivalent
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 08:39:29PM -0800, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Say, is there a catchall equivalent in Debian of the rc.local file? Once again I'm trying to interpret a recommendation from the TrinityOS HOWTO on setting up security. He suggests putting: dmesg /etc/info/dmesg at the end of the rc.local file, which presumably executes last in a RedHat system. Is there a better way to accomplish this anyway. Early into the boot, debian does something similar (/etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh) and stores the output in /var/log/dmesg. I haven't read the TrinityOS HOWTO (nor do I know redhat), but unless they need the later image of dmesg, this might do the trick for you. Idonno. He's also recommending a constant append of these suckers so you have them all from all your old reboots. On the other hand, is main reasoning is that you lose the top end gradually on a machine that stays up for a long time, which I've seen before, and you don't need all the old ones if that's all you're trying to accomplish. Anyway, at least I'm writing the two files in the same place (/var/log/latterdmesg.log I'm calling the new one). The /etc/info area doesn't really seem right for it anyway. That kindof thing, to my mind, really goes on /var. Thanks for the feedback. -- Karl E. Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.karl.jorgensen.com Today's fortune: Linux is obsolete (Andrew Tanenbaum) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Disabling interactive init on Debian
In the Trinity OS security recommenation they say to disable the ability to run init interactively by setting prompt=no in a file called /etc/sysconfig/init, but that file doesn't exist on my Debian Potato, and I don't find one that has prompt= in it (well, there is one, but it's a binary called /etc/alternatives/pager, so I don't think that's it). Any ideas? TIA. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
TCP_wrappers and firewall
I'm not digging up a comfortable explanation to this. It looks like TCP_wrappers just restricts usage of TCP access to daemons and doesn't affect packet filtering at all in the kernel, so if I am configuring a firewall with only local access, for instance, I could just leave the hosts.allow file empty and have the single hosts.deny entry of: ALL: ALL and that would do it, right? Then if I want to allow maintenance from some machine I'd presumably add an ssh entry on the hosts.allow file...? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
rc.local equivalent
Say, is there a catchall equivalent in Debian of the rc.local file? Once again I'm trying to interpret a recommendation from the TrinityOS HOWTO on setting up security. He suggests putting: dmesg /etc/info/dmesg at the end of the rc.local file, which presumably executes last in a RedHat system. Is there a better way to accomplish this anyway. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
rc.local equivalent
Say, is there a catchall equivalent in Debian of the rc.local file? Once again I'm trying to interpret a recommendation from the TrinityOS HOWTO on setting up security. He suggests putting: dmesg /etc/info/dmesg at the end of the rc.local file, which presumably executes last in a RedHat system. Is there a better way to accomplish this anyway? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Package of a file in debian?
Is there a similar command in apt or dpkg to this thing with rpm that allows you to figure out the package of a file? That really would have helped me recently. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.---BeginMessage--- requires me to downgrade openssl. If I move up to CUPS 1.1.14, then all of a sudden I need libcrypto.so.3, which is not found by rpmfind.net. /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.3 is a symlink to /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 (from the openssl-0.9.6c RPM) I believe. rpm -qf is how one figures out the name of a package to which a particular file belongs. $rpm -qf /usr/lib/libcrypto* openssl-devel-0.9.6-7-lmdk libopenssl-0.9.6b-lmdk ww __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com ___ linux-list mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ssc.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-list ---End Message---
Re: portfw to multiple machines, same port
Michael P. Soulier wrote: From IPMASQADM(8): EXAMPLES Redirect all web traffic to internals hostA and hostB, where hostB will serve 2 times hostA connections. Forward rules already masq internal hosts to outside (typical). ipchains -I input -p tcp -y -d yours.com/32 80 -m 1 ipmasqadm mfw -I -m 1 -r hostA 80 -p 10 ipmasqadm mfw -I -m 1 -r hostB 80 -p 20 Do I still need to set up ipchains for packets coming back out, or does this take care of all of it? Another thing I'm similarly stuck on is portforwarding into a single FTP server. Do you just: ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L $external_ip 20 -R $DMZFTP_IP 20 ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L $external_ip 21 -R $DMZFTP_IP 21 or do I also need to put in some ipchains stuff defining the exiting packets? Also, can I use both portfw and mfw in a configuration, for instance mfw with the web servers and portfw with the ftp server? TIA Mike On 01/03/02 Xeno Campanoli did speaketh: As near as I can tell from the documentation I've read so far, you can't (in 2.2.x) ipmasqadm portfw a port to multiple servers of the same port. For instance if I want to go from the ip address on my cable connection to four separate webservers, say one an apache, one a boa, a dhttpd and a roxen, all of which have their own separate purposes, I just can't do this it looks like without getting multiple external ip addresses using portfw. It also looks like I in fact might be able to do this with mfw, which is apparently not recommended. Anyhow, I'm stretching beyond my ability here anyway for now. The one answer that does seem to be reasonable is to specify 80 for a front end webserver and then access the other webservers on other ports, so that the apache could be 81, the roxen 82, the boa 83. Is this fairly typical? I'm not keen on playing too radically, at least not this season. TIA for any feedback. Sincerely, Xeno -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: IPMasq disturbing Fetchmail?
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 03:10:24PM +0100, joe user wrote:
Hello.
Is it possible that IPMasq can disturb fetchmail?
The retrieving of messages always stalls when a message is between 2434- or
2448 bytes in size.
I'm no expert on this, but is it possible you're have a problem with a
combination of short TCP FIN timeout and then some weird fragment
handling combination that occurs with this size transfer? It just
sounds like something to do with timeouts and fragmetns if you're fixing
it by reducing mtu. Somewhere else along the line the mtu is smaller so
you get fragmentation, presumably, and then when you get a certain size
fragment with a certain affect on time to live you time out. One thing
I'd try is setting TCP FIN timeout up a bit, but I don't know if doing
this alone without more engineering thought on the problem is a good
idea. Sounds like an interesting problem. I've been reading up on
IPChains/IPMasq and they recommend making sure you have the
always_defragment=1 if you can, a la:
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_always_defrag
and that solves some of these fragment problems around the firewall
best. You have to have this compiled into the kernel, but it is by
default. If for some reason you can't do this you need to specify some
extra chain rules to handle the fragments. At any rate, it doesn't
sound to me like a fragment problem alone, but a combination. I've got
the command:
$gICPATH -M -S $TCPTIMEOUT $TCPFINTIMEOUT $UDPTIMEOUT
(where $gICPATH is a version of ipchains, for instance), to set
timeouts, so
you'd want to set TCPFINTIMOUT=$morethanbefore.
I have a small home-network with two boxes running Woody.
One of them is acting 'router' using the 'ipmasq'-package.
The other one is my workstation and there is where I run fetchmail directly
against my ISP.
If I try fetchmail on the router instead, it works fine and retrieves all
messages without stalling.
I had a similar problem with my ISP - intermittently. Never got to the
bottom of it. I suspect it had something to do with packet
fragmentation, but I am at a loss. Calling the ISP turned out to be
fruitless, as they are only willing to support windoze (odd: I'm told
that many ISPs actually use linux themselves...)
My symptoms were similar to yours. In addition, some web page graphics
wouldn't load (as if big images couldn't load), and [EMAIL PROTECTED] never
managed to download work units. Got the first few K, then stopped.
But I did find a workaround: lower the MTU on the ppp
connection from the default 1500. In my case, lowering to 800 did the
trick.
Where to lower it depends on what you use for dialling up:
For diald:
add a line mtu 800 to /etc/diald/diald.options.your-provider-name
(diald doesn't like you to add it to the ppp config nor command line).
Beware that diald likes to re-generate the /etc/diald/diald.options.*
files (how *do* you turn that off anyway?), and undo changes in
here.
For ppp:
add mtu 800 to /etc/ppp/peers/your-provider-name
If this is a unknown behaviour, what can I do to get more information on
what is happening?
Don't know. Pls post here if you find out more
I am not a netfilter guru so I don't have an idea on how to turn on
extensive logging on the router..
Neither am I. The above worked for me, but I'm sure there is more to it.
HTH
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portfw to multiple machines, same port
As near as I can tell from the documentation I've read so far, you can't (in 2.2.x) ipmasqadm portfw a port to multiple servers of the same port. For instance if I want to go from the ip address on my cable connection to four separate webservers, say one an apache, one a boa, a dhttpd and a roxen, all of which have their own separate purposes, I just can't do this it looks like without getting multiple external ip addresses using portfw. It also looks like I in fact might be able to do this with mfw, which is apparently not recommended. Anyhow, I'm stretching beyond my ability here anyway for now. The one answer that does seem to be reasonable is to specify 80 for a front end webserver and then access the other webservers on other ports, so that the apache could be 81, the roxen 82, the boa 83. Is this fairly typical? I'm not keen on playing too radically, at least not this season. TIA for any feedback. Sincerely, Xeno -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Potato default and ip_always_defrag=0
If the ip_always_defrag is in my /proc/sys/net/ipv4 directory, and the value is 0, that means the facility is in the Kernel or available as a module and I just need to turn it on with echo 1/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_always_defrag, right? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Multiple portfw for multiple resources
Has anyone set up port forwarding for multiple resourses, say multiple webservers, for instance? I'd like to actually go to two separate machines from my firewall, and I think I want them to be really really separate, not just parallel support of the same thing. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: Potato default and ip_always_defrag=0
Xeno Campanoli wrote: If the ip_always_defrag is in my /proc/sys/net/ipv4 directory, and the value is 0, that means the facility is in the Kernel or available as a module and I just need to turn it on with echo 1/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_always_defrag, right? Sorry guys, I found my affirmative answer on the e-infomax.com ip-masq howto section 6.4.2. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: pam-watch?
Xeno Campanoli wrote: Luke Scharf wrote: I'm a system administrator attempting to install an application that relies on PAM (apache + mod_auth_pam). Is there any way that I can get a log of what PAM is doing? Ideally, I'd like to see what application is requesting authentication, whether the authentication succeeded or failed and why. Is there a way to get such information? Did you ever get an answer to this? I've been working out of Mann and Mitchell (_Linux_System_Security_) and on page 109 it says the logs go to the syslog auth facility. There are a lot of the modules that have a debug option too: pam_rhsots_auth,pam_lastlog,pam_wheel,pam_cracklib... actually, on page 85 it says that most the modules have this as an option. There's a lot more to it, of course. I'm not unconditionally enamoured by the presentation in LSS, but it nevertheless is better than anything I've got or have been presently able to find. I'm still rather stuck on my *_dict.* problem, and I'm getting the impression that this debian-users group is not very PAM savvy, as I've gotten no feedback on the problem other than what I've elicited directly from one friend. If you know anyone else who is PAMMY in regards to Debian, that is what I really really need. For some reason I'm getting the *_dict.* files on one machine, and not on the other. It seems to me that this would be a FAQ question, but I haven't been able to find on the web or on groups.google.com. Thanks in advance! -Luke -- Luke Scharf, Jack of Several Trades http://www.ccm.ece.vt.edu/~lscharf -- Luke Scharf, Jack of Several Trades http://www.ccm.ece.vt.edu/~lscharf ___ Pam-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pam-list -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
shell-init: could not get current directory
On my machine that's not doing PAM, I'm noticing after I took out cracklib-runtime and cracklib2, and then try to reinstall cracklib2, I get a bunch of diagnotic messages saying: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory But then after doing that five times it seems to install okay. Then, when I do the apt-get install cracklib-runtime on this machine, it takes about one twentieth the time it takes on my machine that ends up with the successful install of cracklib, and finally when this apt-get install cracklib-runtime is done it leaves no /var/cache/cracklib/*_dict.* files at all, whereas I do get these on the one where said install takes a long time. Am I getting close to the problem here? Help? Anyone? This is Potato, if that helps. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: shell-init: could not get current directory
Kurc, Marcin A. wrote: Try to install not from the directory that is removed while Good point. The shell-init messages have now gone away, but I still run: apt-get install cracklib-runtime for only a few seconds and I get no /var/cache/cracklib/*_dict.* files. Again, this works on another machine. Shouldn't this cracklib-runtime install give me some diagnostic if it can't install the [EMAIL PROTECTED] files? I also just tried deleting the old .deb files (which looked the same) and that didn't make a difference. But then after doing that five times it seems to install okay. Then, when I do the apt-get install cracklib-runtime on this machine, it takes about one twentieth the time it takes on my machine that ends up with the successful install of cracklib, and finally when this apt-get install cracklib-runtime is done it leaves no /var/cache/cracklib/*_dict.* files at all, whereas I do get these on the one where said install takes a long time. Am I getting close to the problem here? Help? Anyone? This is Potato, if that helps. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: shell-init: could not get current directory
Kurc, Marcin A. wrote: how do you remove it? dpkg --purge package-name? Yes, I do dpkt -P cracklib-runtime on both machines, then I do dpkg -P cracklib2 on both machines, and then I reinstall with apt-get install cracklib2 and apt-get install cracklib-runtime. On the purge, the machine that works requires I remove the *_dict.* files by hand, otherwise they won't go away. I've done this each time to make sure I'm not experiencing a ghost. I've also checked file attributes and protections, and even compared the messaging on the installs. I've not found the significant difference that correlates with the one machine getting no *_dict.* files, other than the install not taking as long for cracklib-runtime. Perhaps a cogent question next is, have I been cracked? The uname -a outputs are basically the same (except for hostname) too: Linux myhost 2.2.19 #1 Tu Nov 1 19:52:06 EST 2001 i686 unknown -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Ah, this is a known bug: #54214
My apologies for being oblivious to the Debian site's bug tracking resource. It turns out a Mr. Billson turned this one in in January 2000. Wah! So the trick to my problem is that something called wordlist is needed for the cracklib-runtime install to work, and apparently there is no strong dependency for it defined inside the .deb file to designate this. Therefore an appropriate admonition at this point is to make sure wenglish, or other users of wordlist are installed before installing cracklib-runtime, otherwise you'll get a broken cracklib-runtime, at least on Potato. Sincerely, Xeno -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Looking for .deb containing *_dict.* for cracklib
Perhaps I wasn't clear before with my headlines. Sorry. Does anyone
know why I might not be getting these *_dict.* files installed?
Xeno Campanoli wrote:
Okay, (Doh!) it looks like I don't have the cracklib_dict.pwd file
installed on the system where PAM doesn't work with cracklib. I've
tried apt-get remove-ing and re-installing any crack-related packages
I've been able to find using apt-cache, but still no *_dict.* files.
I've also searched the old mailing list archives for this, so either
this is a bug or anomaly in the progression of packages, and in either
case there's no evidence anybody has known about it up until now. I'm
betting it's a part of some normal package I'd put in on a complete
install but which I just cannot presently think of. At any rate, I'd
like two forms of feedback:
1) What is the stable package I need to install to get these *_dict.*
files?
2) Does anyone have any suggestions on how to better search for this
kind of problem using the apt-* facilities?
TIA. I'll forward the final results to the pam-list, as I presume most
of you are not on that. See Igmar's comments below for more
information.
Sincerely, Xeno
Igmar Palsenberg wrote:
Hi,
This is the actual problem :
stat(/var/cache/cracklib/cracklib_dict.pwd, 0xbfff9a1c) = -1 ENOENT
It's also consitent with the code (pam_cracklib.c) :
if (!stat(buf,st) st.st_size)
return PAM_SUCCESS;
else {
if (ctrl PAM_DEBUG_ARG)
_pam_log(LOG_NOTICE,dict path '%s'[.pwd] is invalid,
CRACKLIB_DICTPATH);
return PAM_ABORT;
}
In other words : It can't find your dicts file. What I do find strange it
the path it is looking for : /var/cache/cracklib. On all RH systems I've
been on it's in /usr/lib
You have two options : Make a symlink, copy the files, etc, or recompile
the cracklib module.
Igmar
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Re: Swap space
Another thing to think about is where to put them. If you have multiple drives, you'll want swap on each drive to give the OS a better chance to do paging where it's not already doing I/O. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: [Fwd: PAM Critical error, but no logging]
Okay, (Doh!) it looks like I don't have the cracklib_dict.pwd file
installed on the system where PAM doesn't work with cracklib. I've
tried apt-get remove-ing and re-installing any crack-related packages
I've been able to find using apt-cache, but still no *_dict.* files.
I've also searched the old mailing list archives for this, so either
this is a bug or anomaly in the progression of packages, and in either
case there's no evidence anybody has known about it up until now. I'm
betting it's a part of some normal package I'd put in on a complete
install but which I just cannot presently think of. At any rate, I'd
like two forms of feedback:
1) What is the stable package I need to install to get these *_dict.*
files?
2) Does anyone have any suggestions on how to better search for this
kind of problem using the apt-* facilities?
TIA. I'll forward the final results to the pam-list, as I presume most
of you are not on that. See Igmar's comments below for more
information.
Sincerely, Xeno
Igmar Palsenberg wrote:
Hi,
This is the actual problem :
stat(/var/cache/cracklib/cracklib_dict.pwd, 0xbfff9a1c) = -1 ENOENT
It's also consitent with the code (pam_cracklib.c) :
if (!stat(buf,st) st.st_size)
return PAM_SUCCESS;
else {
if (ctrl PAM_DEBUG_ARG)
_pam_log(LOG_NOTICE,dict path '%s'[.pwd] is invalid,
CRACKLIB_DICTPATH);
return PAM_ABORT;
}
In other words : It can't find your dicts file. What I do find strange it
the path it is looking for : /var/cache/cracklib. On all RH systems I've
been on it's in /usr/lib
You have two options : Make a symlink, copy the files, etc, or recompile
the cracklib module.
Igmar
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chkconfig --add equivalent
Okay, I'm swinging on thin rope here, but I'm looking at a line that says: chkconfig --add fwconfig on 467 of Mann's and Mitchell's LSS book (where fwconfig is a setup script) and it says this is supposed to put in all the nice startup and kill connections in your rc*.d and init.d directory. I'm sorry, but I'm at the present an ignorant RedHatphobe and apparently not that great at Debian either. Is there an equivalent of this chkconfig thingy in Debian? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
PAM Critical error, but no logging
I've honestly been looking at this for a couple of hours now (and have been reading about PAM for a couple of days) and have mainly established that I myself am not crazy. I have a new configuration for the file /etc/pam.d/passwd as follows: authrequired/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so account required/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so passwordrequired/lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=32 passwordrequired/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so md5 use_authtok but when I give the passwd command to change my password, I get the following error: passwd: Critical error - immediate abort I get no message in the /var/log directory for this. Also, when I use the distribution defaults the passwd command prompts just fine without the error. It also fails similarly when I use: passwordrequiredpam_cracklib.so retry=3 passwordrequiredpam_unix.so use_authtok nullok md5 but it succeeds when I leave off pam_cracklib.so and just use the default setting from the distribution: passwordrequiredpam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 I've looked at the modules, and they are all in /lib/security. I even tried uninstalling and then reinstalling libpam-modules and it's the same. I also tried upgrading form kernel 2.2.17 to kernel 2.2.19, and it didn't change. Finally, I have another debian stable machine which has the same environment (as near as I can tell of course) that works with the pam_cracklib.so module and the pam_unix.so module together just fine. So, I'm perplexed. The really bothersome thing is that I can't find any diagnostic output. I search for pam in the /var/log directory, and the only pam related stuff is old from other problems this afternoon that I fixed because there were diagnostic messages explaining the problems. So, did I find a bug, or am I doing something stupid here? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: PAM Critical error, but no logging
Xeno Campanoli wrote: Sorry, I forgot to say this was on stable, using 2.2.17 and then moving to 2.2.19. I've honestly been looking at this for a couple of hours now (and have been reading about PAM for a couple of days) and have mainly established that I myself am not crazy. I have a new configuration for the file /etc/pam.d/passwd as follows: authrequired/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so account required/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so passwordrequired/lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=32 passwordrequired/lib/security/pam_pwdb.so md5 use_authtok but when I give the passwd command to change my password, I get the following error: passwd: Critical error - immediate abort I get no message in the /var/log directory for this. Also, when I use the distribution defaults the passwd command prompts just fine without the error. It also fails similarly when I use: passwordrequiredpam_cracklib.so retry=3 passwordrequiredpam_unix.so use_authtok nullok md5 but it succeeds when I leave off pam_cracklib.so and just use the default setting from the distribution: passwordrequiredpam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 I've looked at the modules, and they are all in /lib/security. I even tried uninstalling and then reinstalling libpam-modules and it's the same. I also tried upgrading form kernel 2.2.17 to kernel 2.2.19, and it didn't change. Finally, I have another debian stable machine which has the same environment (as near as I can tell of course) that works with the pam_cracklib.so module and the pam_unix.so module together just fine. So, I'm perplexed. The really bothersome thing is that I can't find any diagnostic output. I search for pam in the /var/log directory, and the only pam related stuff is old from other problems this afternoon that I fixed because there were diagnostic messages explaining the problems. So, did I find a bug, or am I doing something stupid here? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
PAM and /etc/security/access.conf
I have the following entries in /etc/security/access.conf: +:ALL tty1,tty2,tty3,tty4,tty5 -:ALL tty6 -:wheel:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL I reboot and try logging into tty6, and I still can. Am I missing something? What do I do to make sure that PAM is working here? I'm using Potato with 2.2.19 kernel. Also, I find no reference to PAM in the /proc directory. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: PAM and /etc/security/access.conf
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Xeno Campanoli wrote: I have the following entries in /etc/security/access.conf: +:ALL tty1,tty2,tty3,tty4,tty5 -:ALL tty6 -:wheel:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL Have a look at the files in /etc/pam.d/. In login, you'll see these lines # Uncomment and edit /etc/security/access.conf if you need to # set access limits. # (Replaces /etc/login.access file) # account required pam_access.so You should check out the other files in there too. Okay, I uncommented that, and nothing changes. I can still log into tty6. None of the other files (except login) has this entry. Is that to be expected? Is there a step besides killing getty for tty6 that I should take to make sure the new configuration is in use? TIA I'm using Potato with 2.2.19 kernel. Also, I find no reference to PAM in the /proc directory. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address...
Thomas Cook wrote: I fixed an identical problem recently by getting new RAM - my old stuff had gone bad. apt-get install memtest86 I'm using potato, and I can't do the above command successfully. There is something called hwtools, but the only binary looks like it's for MS: inneal:~# cksum /usr/lib/hwtools/memtest86.bin 485645255 59156 /usr/lib/hwtools/memtest86.bin Run this over your memory and see if it comes up with any errors. Be warned that it takes a while (I let mine run for an hour or so before giving up because it had topped 1000 errors). Otherwise, have you upgraded your kernel recently? Tom David Chase wrote: Hi all - I just started getting this message recently...nothing on the system has changed (I don't think)...wondering if anyone knows what it could be, or if it's something I need to worry about. What does it mean, anyways?? :) Thanks! -David R. Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---[snip]- Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0a0a0a4e printing eip: c0146696 *pde = Oops: CPU:1 EIP:0010:[c0146696]Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010206 eax: ebx: c4c749a0 ecx: c4c7c9b0 edx: c4c7c9b0 esi: 0a0a0a2e edi: ebp: 12fa esp: c14d1f4c ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process kswapd (pid: 5, stackpage=c14d1000) Stack: c593d1b8 c593d1a0 c4c749a0 c0144496 c4c749a0 0003 01d0 000d 0005 c01447d3 2871 c012d4b6 0005 01d0 0005 01d0 c029d528 c029d528 c012d503 000d c029d528 0001 c14d Call Trace: [c0144496] [c01447d3] [c012d4b6] [c012d503] [c012d593] [c012d5ee] [c012d6fd] [c0105594] Code: 8b 7e 20 85 ff 74 0d 8b 47 10 85 c0 74 06 53 ff d0 83 c4 04 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Hangman vocabulary all in German...?
It's been too long, and I may have accidentally asked for this and not remember, but my hangman vocabulary is in German. Is it possible this is a mistake? If so, presumably it's not the highest priority. This is on my stable install. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: Hangman vocabulary all in German...?
Andreas Goesele wrote: It's been too long, and I may have accidentally asked for this and not remember, but my hangman vocabulary is in German. Is it possible this If an English dictionary is available you then can choose it. If not, you have to install one. Andreas Gösele Got it. I installed the English dictionary. Thanks. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: [SLL] Test module: Version conflict on a hello.o
Xeno Campanoli wrote: I'm trying to do the example on pages 13-14 of Rubini's Linux Device inneal:~/study# insmod hello.o hello.o: kernel-module version mismatch hello.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.20 while this kernel is version 2.2.19. and it doesn't show up in an lsmod listing. When I do the command: insmod -f hello.o it shows up in the lsmod listing, but I don't get the printk output, either in the log, or interactively. Anyone know what's going on here? Okay, to get full closure on this, now that I've got the answers, I'll cover the where, as well as the what: 1) Where: There is a web page called kernelnewbies.org (see my main web page, second column) that tries to be a clearing house for incipient kwhackers. That was my best start. Then, after figuring out a usable client (circus worked reasonably for me once I looked hard enough) I just got on the #kernelnewbies channel of irc.openprojects.net and asked the question. People are very friendly there, so I recommend that. If anybody find a better irc client that isn't broken in debian, please let me know. 2) What: Then, the answers to my problem, which is, as I assumed, was a minor value to me of this exercise, but nevertheless an important step, was as follows: i. You can't do it like Rubini does it on pp 14 anymore, and that hasn't worked that way for years is an accurate paraphrase of what I was told. Part of my problem was that somehow, possibly due to a bug, or maybe for a security hack, version 2.2.19 as installed on my Debian/Stable had the version.h file listing the version as 2.2.20 in the /usr/include/linux/version.h file. I was instructed to do: gcc -I/whereevertherightbasedirectoryis/include -c hello.o The result was then that I got the output in /var/log/kern.log, and all without specifying -f to insmod. By then going to the (ctrl-alt-f1) console and re-running my insmod hello.o after giving the setting setterm -msg on, I was able to get the Hello, world output to my shell as per the example and now I'm on my way to wherever else that takes me. I still haven't been told why debian has the 2.2.20 version, instead of the 2.2.19, and I still suspect it's a security hack, so please someone email me if that's the case and I'll shut up about it, or otherwise. I really really want to know. Seeyalaternicetameecha. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: [SLL] Test module: Version conflict on a hello.o
Pann McCuaig wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 14:24, Xeno Campanoli wrote: I do this: inneal:~# cat /usr/include/linux/version.h | grep 2.2.20 #define UTS_RELEASE 2.2.20 and doing it with 2.2.19 finds nothing. This got updated from one greater than the last kernel number before, so it's been that way for two episodes. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/version.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/linux/version.h Best guess is that the current libc6 in potato was built on a machine running kernel-2.2.20. Sorta tacky considering kernel-source-2.2.20 isn't even available via apt for potato. But I think that's the answer to your question. That sounds like a pretty good answer. It seems way to silly to be a security hack, but I still wanted to ask that, being the way I am. I'll CC the debian group. Perhaps they'll take a look. Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^ ___ linux-list mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ssc.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-list -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: [SLL] Test module: Version conflict on a hello.o
Pann McCuaig wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 14:24, Xeno Campanoli wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/version.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/linux/version.h Best guess is that the current libc6 in potato was built on a machine running kernel-2.2.20. Sorta tacky considering kernel-source-2.2.20 isn't even available via apt for potato. But I think that's the answer to your question. That sounds like a pretty good answer. It seems way to silly to be a security hack, but I still wanted to ask that, being the way I am. I'll CC the debian group. Perhaps they'll take a look. Luck, Pann -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Warning: Type conversion failed
I get a little window saying this twice, one time right below the other, as follows: (HTML Title?: subprocess diagnostics) Warning: Type conversion failed Warning: Type conversion failed [Okay button] every time I bring up a new mail message window by hitting New Msg on the Communicator 4.77 on my stable distribution. I've been updating/upgrading frequently, so any bug fixes should have taken place. I've been seeing this now for possibly over two months since the first time I posted something on it, so I thought I'd put in another QA note. Please pass it on, or yell at me if I'm being somehow obviously stupid. Among other things I'm using afterstep. I'm probably leaving out some important version information, but at least I'm saying it's the latest stable I'm successfully update/upgrading. I haven't seen it upgrade Communicator though, which likely i would have remembered. Getting into afterstep is also a bit klunky, but I'll address after this bug is fixed. Thanks. Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Warning: Type conversion failed
I get a little window saying this twice, one time right below the other, as follows: (HTML Title?: subprocess diagnostics) Warning: Type conversion failed Warning: Type conversion failed [Okay button] every time I bring up a new mail message window by hitting New Msg on the Communicator 4.77 on my stable distribution. I've been updating/upgrading frequently, so any bug fixes should have taken place. I've been seeing this now for possibly over two months since the first time I posted something on it, so I thought I'd put in another QA note. Please pass it on, or yell at me if I'm being somehow obviously stupid. Among other things I'm using afterstep. I'm probably leaving out some important version information, but at least I'm saying it's the latest stable I'm successfully update/upgrading. I haven't seen it upgrade Communicator though, which likely i would have remembered. Getting into afterstep is also a bit klunky, but I'll address after this bug is fixed. Thanks. Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Is circus something people use?
I just installed it, but I can't get it to work, and the web reference to: http://www.nijenrode.nl/~ivo/circus/ gets the web page error: Sorry The resource requested /~ivo/circus/ cannot be found. If you feel that this is a configuration error, please contact the administrators or the author of the referring page. - It's not clear where the author is, nor what administrators would be pertinent to the problem. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install nslookup
i want to use nslooup You really should use dig or host (use dig). nslookup is deprecated. dig is fairly good to use. Cameron Kerr I can't find dig with apt-cache search. I do find something called htdig. Is this basically the same thing? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Test module: Version conflict on a hello.o
I'm still looking for an answer to this, and I'm sorry if I missed any that was posted. I'm trying to do the example on pages 13-14 of Rubini's Linux Device Driver book, and I get the following diagnostic message when I do an insmod: inneal:~/study# insmod hello.o hello.o: kernel-module version mismatch hello.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.20 while this kernel is version 2.2.19. and it doesn't show up in an lsmod listing. When I do the command: insmod -f hello.o it shows up in the lsmod listing, but I don't get the printk output, either in the log, or interactively. Anyone know what's going on here? I am using Debian, and I've onlyu installed kernel stuff for 2.2.19 and I don't know where the 2.2.20 number is coming from unless it's an intentional break for security reasons for the stable distribution...? TIA for any feedback. Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I seem to be in a Kernel Warp
Xeno Campanoli wrote: I just successfully installed the 2.2.19 kernel. I just now checked, and this is the latest available in the 2.2 sequence from my stable package sites, but then in trying Rubini's example on page 14 of his book at the insmod hellomodule.o step I get: # insmod hellomodule.o hellomodule.o: kernel-module version mismatch hellomodule.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.20 while this kernel is version 2.2.19. So I guess my GNU or other stuff is building modules for 2.2.20, but I can't get a 2.2.20 kernel yet, n'est-ce pas? Presumably this is changing as we speak? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim / rbl question
your ISP's mail server, it won't work (FAQ at www.exim.conf) Hey, what is www.exim.conf supposed to refer to anyway? It doesn't seem to refer to any of my guesses for a web site. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No functional xterm access from testing KDE
Stephen Gran wrote: This is pretty easy. If you haven't messed with your .xsession file, and KDE is starting as the default, do as root: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Another odd thing here is that, though I now have picked afterstep, and I still get KDE, neither KDE, nor Gnome are in the menu (there also are items: wmaker, twm, vtwm, fvwm92, fvwm2, and icewm) even though I installed both KDE and GNome. What gives? You know, I'd like to think I'm helping with QA work on this Debian stuff when I see stuff like this, and not just spinning my wheels idly. Does anybody see this stuff? You will be presented with a list of window managers installed on your box, and you can select what you would like the default to be. This default can always be overridden with an explicit setting in the user's ~/.xsession file, e.g.,: blackbox HTH, Steve -- All syllogisms have three parts, therefore this is not a syllogism. Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No functional xterm access from testing KDE
I've had this problem now for some time. I seem to have gotten beyond some other problems which makes me think that something in this configuration is just left out. There is an icon of a terminal partly covered by something green but it doesn't bring up an Xterm at all. I also see no access to netscape, nor changing the window managers. Whatever this is, it's a real dead end for being able to do anything. Also, I still never got an answer to my question of weeks ago about how to change the window manager by editing a configuration file. Doesn't anybody know this? Is it really that complex just to switch window managers? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
testing dist X won't come up functional
First of all, I've tried to use apt-get to give the testing distribution itself a chance to solve my problems, and have failed at it now for about a week. Second, every time I do an apt-get upgrade I get a dialog sequence to regenerate an X configuration, even when I say I don't want it on the first selection, and then every time I go through the sequence it fails at the end. Is there a way I can delete something to start over, or is this just a planned feature to drive users like me away from venturing into using the testing distribution just as the lack of critical security software upgrades in stable seem to be calculated to drive users into the testing and unstable distributions?
Failures trying to configure xserver_svga
I'm using testing, and I recently tried to add kde, which may not be related. At any rate, when trying to re-install xserver_svga after picking reasonable parameters, I get: dpkg: error processing xserver svga (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exist status 10 Errors were encountered while processing: xserver-svga E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Two questions
Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: 2. Is there a painless place to get ahold of this jdk-118 thingy? I try the internet address given, and it puts me somewhere which is bewildering, and I haven't found the download page yet. Do you mean a java development kit (jdk) or a java runtime environment (jre)? I mean: ibm-jdk-l118-linux-x86.tgz which apt-get install kdebase says I have to download separately, but which isn't very easily findable. -- Xeno Campanoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00
As my subject line indicates, I'm getting the diagnostic: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00 when I try to boot up with my home grown kernel. I've tried several things with lilo on this, but I'm stumped. rdev indicates the root partition is /dev/hda1, which is what I expect, and I seem to have good lilo entries, as follows: image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only initrd=/boot/initrd and in fact with the dist kernel this lilo entry works fine, but with the one I get with make bzImage I get stuck on boot as stated. Can someone point me to a specific doc to read on this problem, or is my mistake obvious? -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00
Shaul Karl wrote: As my subject line indicates, I'm getting the diagnostic: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00 when I try to boot up with my home grown kernel. I've tried several things with lilo on this, but I'm stumped. rdev indicates the root partition is /dev/hda1, which is what I expect, and I seem to have good lilo entries, as follows: image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only initrd=/boot/initrd Okay, you were right about initrd. I took that out and it works. Thank you. Now however I have another problem with two of my four NIC drivers not showing up in dmesg. I'll start another thread for that one. Sincerely, Xeno -- Shaul Karl email: shaulka (replace these parenthesis with @) bezeqint, delete the comma and the white space characters and add .net -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel up, but no ISA NIC drivers
I actually have 4 different NICs on this thing (it's a long story), and though the two PCI ones get recognized, the ne2000 and 3c509 ISA ones don't. I presume there's something I gotta do for 'em in a file somewhere's because their ISA, but the 3c59x comes up fine with the modules kernel, and I can bring up the ne2000 with insmod ne on that one too, but for some reason it won't come up at boot as a module on that module kernel. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel up, but no ISA NIC drivers
Xeno Campanoli wrote: I actually have 4 different NICs on this thing (it's a long story), and though the two PCI ones get recognized, the ne2000 and 3c509 ISA ones don't. I presume there's something I gotta do for 'em in a file somewhere's because their ISA, but the 3c59x comes up fine with the modules kernel, and I can bring up the ne2000 with insmod ne on that one too, but for some reason it won't come up at boot as a module on that module kernel. My apologies again. It turns out the 3c59x is being recognized, but it doesn't provide an eth2 symbol in the dmesg. Is this a bug, by the way? However, I'm still having a hard time remembering what the file is where I need to specify my IRQ and ADDR for the ne device driver. I remember the ne in particular had a hard time getting recognized unless you specified the dang address and interrupt specifically. Sorry, I'm looking in the debian kernel doc, but it's not jumping out at me. -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel up, but no ISA NIC drivers
Stephen Gran wrote: You can add the modules you want to bring up, along with any arguments /etc/modules. Naw, this honestly doesn't work, even when I have modules turned on. I just went back and made sure the /etc/modules file had: ne io=0x240,irq=5 and it comes up saying it can't do anything with the eth3 handle nic which it doesn't find at boot (on the modules kernel I use, 2.4.19), but then when it's up I can do: insmod ne io=0x240,irq=5 and the module comes up and I can use it fine. Therefore there's something edgy about my problem I think. Also, I'm trying to use the device drivers all compiled in (2.4.14 source kernel), and though the other three come up (eth0, and eth1 are PCI cards, and eth2 is a 3c509), the fourth one, the ne, doesn't come up at all though the driver is in there and again it also won't come up with the modules version of the kernel. -Xeno HTH, Steve -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thoughts on RTFM
Ian Monroe wrote: A surprising about information is still locked up in books. Though some are availible online, checking out your local huge bookstore is a good idea. Ian Monroe http://mlug.missouri.edu/~eean/ On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Lance Simmons wrote: A book that's full of useful examples is _The Linux Cookbook_ by Michael Stutz, available in paperback from Linux Journal Press, and also by apt-get install linuxcookbook I just tried the above using source.list entries for stable, and it wasn't downloaded: inneal:~# apt-get install linuxcookbook Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package linuxcookbook inneal:~# apt-cache search linuxcookbook inneal:~# If there was a different spelling or something please let me know. I'd like to get this document. Another extremely useful book for getting the whole unix thing is _Think Unix_ by Jon Lasser (QUE, 2000) -- Lance Simmons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE Two questions
1. Is kdebase the main symbol for starting an apt-get install of kde, or if not what is it? 2. Is there a painless place to get ahold of this jdk-118 thingy? I try the internet address given, and it puts me somewhere which is bewildering, and I haven't found the download page yet. -- Xeno Campanoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno
