Debian package missing
Hi there, I'd like to notify that http://security-cdn.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages is now missing. It is used in the pipelines of bitbucket and now it seems they're broken.
Re: Sound problems on Wheezy upgrade (and squeeze, previously)
I've been waiting to post about this issue for quite some time, nbut when I finally saw this thread I decided it was time to pipe up. I had lots of issues with my soundsystem dying in squeeze whether I used alsa or pulse. Only a reboot would fix it. It seemed to creep up most commonly when nultiple sound aps were in use on one desktop login (those being run by multiple users never caused this). For instance, a youtube video in chrome would, if virtualbox, rhythmbox, or another application tried to work with sound, I'd get nothing till reboot. Since my upgrade to wheezy, new issues have arisen. Primarily that of VLC's (yeah I know I'm starting a war now) sound output would be massively infused with static until audio would, at some point, spike in a certain equalizer freq range (I suspect), and sound would then be perfect until a pausing of playback, or switch to different media. This turned out to resolve as soon as I ditched VLC for the stock media player. Unfortunately, just a couple of days after finding that fix, the entire system, at what appears to be a kernel level, now refuses at admit that I have sound hardware at ALL. Dmesg scanning confirms that it's not finding crap and the gnome control panel only shows 'dummy sound system' as available for [non-functional] output, compared to the 3 devices total that I had a few days ago. Haven't checked to see what the BIOS menu says yet, but I will as soon as I can take the machine down for a bit. -Damon > From: Gary Roach > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Sound problems on Wheezy upgrade [Snip] > On 09/20/2013 08:40 PM, drew craig wrote: > > I ran into an alsa issue awhile back and solved it by altering the conf file. May or may not be of any help. I wrote it up here > > > > http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=409 > > > > > I hope I am not hyjacking this thread but, while my problem seems to be > somewhat different, it still started with a wheezy upgrade that killed > my sound system. I don't think that any one has identified the root > cause of this problem and are kind of using a shot gun approach to the > problem solving. So let me get as specific as I can. Running as root > 'service alsa-utils restart' produced the following return: > root@mysystem:/etc# service alsa-utils restart > [ ok ] Shutting down ALSA...done. > [] Setting up ALSA...warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with > error message 'Home directory /root not ours.'...Home > directory /root not ours > Can anyone explain this error message and suggest a fix. > > I hope my above statement doesn't insult anyone. I know a lot of effort > has gone into this thread. But my observation still stands. I'm finding > references to this problem all over google but no reasonable solutions. > I can't believe that there are more than one or two actual problems > here. Programs just don't usually break in multiple ways all at the same > time. [HTMLized version of the same crap snipped]
Please don't cause unneeded traffic for TOR
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RE: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 00:24 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > SNIP > > > > > > I have Win 7 home premium. I will find out what tools for > partitioning/backup came with it and decide on my next course of > action. Windows comes with a resizer: right click on "my computer" > manage >diskmanager. The next step is fuzzy in my memory: right click on the drive> reszie? Windows will now resize the partition, reboot and run chck disk if needed first, reboot, re-run chck disk. This eliminates the need for manual intervention to ensure your NTFS is in a state that can safely shrink. Windows will also not allow you to shrink the partition smaller then the data will fit on. -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286979950.1532.10.ca...@dam-main
Re: question/answer website for user support: shapado.debian.net
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 17:33 +0200, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 04. 10. 2010 17:07:51 je T o n g napisal(a): > > > > OMG, I hope that is NEVER possible. Why? Take a look at, or > > participate > > in ubuntu forum and you will know why. You'll get endless flood in > > nonsense replies, "I agree", "bump", etc etc, and there are actually > > good > > ones, in the sense that they actually are at least *on the topic*. > > > > Have you considered the possibility that it might be related to their > user base? There might be a reason, after all, why Ubuntu has been > touted "the Debian for ... erm ... beginners". > > Bump! > -- > I agree, Bump! I agree. > > Klistvud > Certifiable Loonix User #481801 > http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com > > Please reply to the list, not to me. > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286206843.2609.4.ca...@dam-main
Re: cpufreq not loaded in amd64?
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 05:34 +, s. keeling wrote: > Damon L. Chesser : > > For some reason, I don't have cpufreq scaling enabled: > > Well that's pretty damned sad. :-P I really don't get cpufreq* > myself. Methinks it's far too young software. > > > da...@dam-main:~$ sudo powernowd -d > > PowerNow Daemon v1.00, (c) 2003-2008 John Clemens > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus: No such file or > > directory > > err=2Found 2 scalable units: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit > > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: No such file or > > directory > > [snip] > > da...@dam-main:~$ sudo lsmod |grep cpufreq > > cpufreq_stats 2659 0 > > cpufreq_userspace 1992 0 > > cpufreq_conservative 5162 0 > > cpufreq_powersave902 0 > > > > da...@dam-main:~$ sudo lsmod |grep powernow > > da...@dam-main:~$ > > > > Oops, no powernow-k* listed. > > > > r...@dam-main:/home/damon# modprobe powernow-k8 > > FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 > > > > (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): > > No such device > > > > dmesg |grep cpu -i shows (only in part) > > > > [ 18.891118] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core > > Processor 4800+ processors (2 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00) > > > > so after googling, I see this problem pop up, but the "newest" one is at > > least a year old and I don't see a solution. > > (0) infidel /home/keeling_ uname -a > Linux infidel 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 23:33:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 > GNU/Linux > (0) infidel /home/keeling_ lsmod | grep power > cpufreq_powersave902 0 > powernow_k810978 0 > processor 30135 1 powernow_k8 > > > What do I need to do? > > Damned good question. What do lm-sensors do there? > > (0) [root] infidel /root_ sensors > acpitz-virtual-0 > Adapter: Virtual device > temp1: +74.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) > > My sandbox is far more expressive: > > (0) infidel /home/keeling_ ssh phreaque sensors > emc6d100-i2c-0-2e > Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at fc00 > in0: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.32 V) ALARM > in1: +1.50 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.99 V) > in2: +3.27 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.38 V) > in3: +5.08 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.64 V) > in4:+12.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +15.94 V) > in5: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.38 V) > in6: +0.02 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +1.99 V) > in7: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.39 V) > fan1: 1480 RPM (min =0 RPM) > fan2: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) > fan3: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) > fan4: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) > temp1:+0.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) > temp2: +40.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) > temp3: +47.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) > cpu0_vid: +1.525 V > > > cat /etc/debian_version > > squeeze/sid > > 5.0.6 > > Lenny. Que pasa mon? :-) Hey S. Keeling. Thanks for the replay, always nice to hear from you going back to the Libranet days. However, I figured this one out. User error. My bios had "Cool and Quite" turned off. I did not catch that, I was looking for some other bios settings. I really am not a big fan of cpufreq scaling, however, I figure it saves my on the power bill, but I keep forgetting to turn it off when I fire up a vm (vms hate cpu freq scaling). Just trying to do my small part to keep Canada cool by not heating up the US SE. > > -- > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 > - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1285855979.2595.21.ca...@dam-main
Re: AMD 'cool & quiet' stopped working in squeeze (and lenny?)
On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 22:37 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 18:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On 20100925_233536, Aniruddha wrote: > > > I have found some information at the link below. Apparently only > > > mobile processors are supported. You could try: > > > > > > modprobe processor > > > modprobe powernowd-k8 > > > > > > > > > http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html > > > > > > > Thanks, but ... > > > > The how-to is just the sort of thing I was asking for. What to > > modprobe, etc. The discussion there agrees with you that only the > > mobile processors are supported. But the fan on my mo-bo would start > > fast and slow down during boot up. It did this for several years --- > > until about 150 hours ago. Now it keeps going fast. Something > > changed. Was there a 'bug' in the software that allowed it to control > > the fan even though the manufacturer specified that it wouldn't? And > > that 'bug' has been 'fixed'? A mighty strange bug. > > > > Even now there is a slight hesitation in the fan speed at the moment > > during boot-up when it used to slow. But then it regains speed. > > > > When I try to install the modules using modprobe, there is an error > > message that asserts that they are not found. But the .ko files are > > there on disk and are listed by modprobe -l. So I would count the > > detailed wording of the error message as a bug. It is seriously > > misleading to claim a reason for failure to load that is easily found > > to be false. 'incompatible with CPU hardware' might be better words, > > if in fact there really is an incompatiblity. > > I have the same issue and a post here has gone un-answered. > > cat /etc/debian_version > squeeze/sid > > > cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name" > model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ > model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ > > > sudo modprobe powernow_k8 > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf line 2: ignoring bad line > starting with 'test' > FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 > (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): > No such device > and now, I am answering my own question: BIOS AMD Cool and Quite was OFF. Doh. Doh. Doh. Turned it on, it worked as expected. Anybody know of a way to take back an email? > > > > > I hope there is a recovery fix for my computer, but I think I'll > > have to learn to live with the noise. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > Paul E Condon > > pecon...@mesanetworks.net > > > > > > -- > Damon > da...@damtek.com > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1285470751.2597.1.ca...@dam-main
Re: AMD 'cool & quiet' stopped working in squeeze (and lenny?)
On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 18:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20100925_233536, Aniruddha wrote: > > I have found some information at the link below. Apparently only > > mobile processors are supported. You could try: > > > > modprobe processor > > modprobe powernowd-k8 > > > > > > http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html > > > > Thanks, but ... > > The how-to is just the sort of thing I was asking for. What to > modprobe, etc. The discussion there agrees with you that only the > mobile processors are supported. But the fan on my mo-bo would start > fast and slow down during boot up. It did this for several years --- > until about 150 hours ago. Now it keeps going fast. Something > changed. Was there a 'bug' in the software that allowed it to control > the fan even though the manufacturer specified that it wouldn't? And > that 'bug' has been 'fixed'? A mighty strange bug. > > Even now there is a slight hesitation in the fan speed at the moment > during boot-up when it used to slow. But then it regains speed. > > When I try to install the modules using modprobe, there is an error > message that asserts that they are not found. But the .ko files are > there on disk and are listed by modprobe -l. So I would count the > detailed wording of the error message as a bug. It is seriously > misleading to claim a reason for failure to load that is easily found > to be false. 'incompatible with CPU hardware' might be better words, > if in fact there really is an incompatiblity. I have the same issue and a post here has gone un-answered. cat /etc/debian_version squeeze/sid cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name" model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ sudo modprobe powernow_k8 WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf line 2: ignoring bad line starting with 'test' FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device > > I hope there is a recovery fix for my computer, but I think I'll > have to learn to live with the noise. > > Thanks, > -- > Paul E Condon > pecon...@mesanetworks.net > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1285468621.3699.2.ca...@dam-main
Re: Simplest and cheapest RAID
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 16:14 +, T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > How practical is to create a simplest and cheapest RAID, using 2 > partitions on the same disk, combining them as a RAID drive? It is not practical at all since if you loose the drive, you loose both partition, thus defeating the purpose (0ne of them) of RAID. > > By "practical" I meant, > > - I would assume less than 0.01% people would do that so I can't find > any documents. > > - Having 2 partitions might not give me much advantage in safety, so the > pay off is pity comparing to the hoops that I need to jump through. > > As you can see, I'm still "scared" about this "complicated" RAID thing. > > Any comments or inputs? Having said that, it is trivial to use mdadmin to set up a raid device of partitions on one HD. You will get a speed penalty as you are trying to access one HD multiple times to write data or read data, but you can do it as a training exercise to get to know the mdadmin commands. See here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html#toc6 Then, when you understand how raid works, you can take a look here: http://wiki.tldp.org/LVM-on-RAID and figure out how to set up mdadmin to run software raid (say 1) on which you then run lvm. The purpose? You can add volumes to your lvm as needed, grow the fs hot and you would need to loose several HDs before you lost your lvm. HTH > > Thanks > > -- > Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) > http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ > http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1284681789.3114.9.ca...@dam-main
cpufreq not loaded in amd64?
For some reason, I don't have cpufreq scaling enabled: da...@dam-main:~$ sudo powernowd -d PowerNow Daemon v1.00, (c) 2003-2008 John Clemens /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus: No such file or directory err=2Found 2 scalable units: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: No such file or directory PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start. Please make sure that: - You are running a v2.6.7 kernel or later - That you have sysfs mounted /sys - That you have the core cpufreq and cpufreq-userspace modules loaded into your kernel - That you have the cpufreq driver for your cpu loaded, (for example: powernow-k7), and that it works. Check 'dmesg' for errors. If all of the above are true, and you still have problems, please email the author: cle...@alum.rpi.edu da...@dam-main:~$ uname -r 2.6.32-5-amd64 CHECK da...@dam-main:~$ ls /sys block class devices fs kernel power busdevfirmware hypervisor module Check da...@dam-main:~$ sudo lsmod |grep cpufreq cpufreq_stats 2659 0 cpufreq_userspace 1992 0 cpufreq_conservative 5162 0 cpufreq_powersave902 0 da...@dam-main:~$ sudo lsmod |grep powernow da...@dam-main:~$ Oops, no powernow-k* listed. r...@dam-main:/home/damon# modprobe powernow-k8 FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device dmesg |grep cpu -i shows (only in part) [ 18.891118] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ processors (2 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00) so after googling, I see this problem pop up, but the "newest" one is at least a year old and I don't see a solution. What do I need to do? cat /etc/debian_version squeeze/sid r...@dam-main:/home/damon# uname -a Linux dam-main 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 25 13:59:41 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283880770.2366.41.ca...@dam-main.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.
Re: two sound card problems
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 21:20 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Debain Sid. > > 2.6.32-5-amd64 > > lspci -l |grep -i audio: > > 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 > Audio Controller (rev a2) > 05:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD > 34xx Series] > > > I actually stopped using Debian for about a year because of this, but I > insist of finding a solution. The problem: from a stock install the > ATI Audio device becomes card 0 and is the default audio device. The > problem is that is my Video card and I am not using video out for > anything but running my monitor. > > I have searched for a solution and only have a partial one now: > > in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf I added to the bottom of the list: > > blacklist snd_hda_intel > > blacklist snd_hda_codec_atihdmi > > This stops the ATI HD hdmidi card from being "seen". > > My Nvidia AC97 is now card 0 and is detected by alsamixergui (or any > other system mixer) instead of the ATI card. However, system sound > effects are not heard even though the "speaker" in gnome is not muted > (as it was with the ATI card). If I go into /usr/share/sounds/ and open > a file with "move player" totem plays the file but no sound is heard. > > If I do the same thing with vlc, config vlc to use explicitly ALSA audio > output, it can play the sound file. > > I have install pulse audio and I no longer need to select an output mode > in the vlc config (gui) to hear sound files. > > I still can not use "movie player" (totem), banshi, or rythembox to play > music with. > > I am at a loss as to how to get my box to just use my Nvidia AC97 audio > card and hear system sounds, play music, etc etc except by using only > vlc. > > Any ideas? > > aplay -l: > > aplay -l > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia CK804] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia CK804 > - IEC958] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Answering my own question: After a long, long search. I found this: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/MultipleCards#See_what.27s_going_on By READING /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz I found the module I wanted to use as the first sound card was snd-intel8x0 (I found this by running aplay -l and then searching the above readme for IEC958) Armed with this knowledge, I then modifed /etc/modprob.d/alsa-base.conf: //Start Section from here to the end of this section, modified to test asla problem options snd cards_limit=1 #^limits the snd cards to 1 slot alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 #^ makes snd-card-0 use the snd-intel8x0 card options snd slots=snd-intel8x0 #^ Alternative and newer way to list a card by "slot" and since I only #have one I want to use, it will load the snd-intel9x0 to use the first #slot #OSS/Free portion alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 /End Section Rebooted, no sound: Ran as root: alsa force-reload and I then could use the gui players to play "music" So, HAL/Udev are loading the other sound cards up then loads ALSA. ALSA gets confused. forcing-reload will cause alsa-base.conf to be read and acted on, resulting in a "working" sound system. A more permenent solution is to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-blacklist.conf and include the modules of the "offending" sound cards. Again, using aplay -l listed all my sound cards and I used that to find the snd-$MODULE listed in /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz that activated that card, in my case: blacklist snd-hda-intel blacklist snd-ice1724 (I purchased a low end sound card. snd-ice1724 to see if would play nice with the HDMI from the ATI Radeon. It did not). Reboot to test. Sound is good off of the Nvidia AC97 sound card, alsamixergui and all other mixers are using the AC97 sound card, players are all using the AC97 sound card. All of this because I purchased an ATI Technologies Inc RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450 video card that had built in "HDMIDI". I also only ran into this problem with Debian, not Ubuntu, not Fedora 13. Don't know if this is a bug, feature, or was inserted just to torment me? HTH someone else. > > > > -- > Damon > da...@damtek.com > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283877458.2366.19.ca...@dam-main.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.
Re: Squeeze System "Bricked" after Software Upgrades 09/04
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 13:31 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: > On 09/04/2010 12:40 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > > You could also try wicd-curses if that's installed, or use X with the > > vesa driver. Here's an /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that: > > > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "n" > > Driver "vesa" > > EndSection > > --8<---cut here---end--->8--- > > > > Thanks, Sven! I got the Panasonic system connected using ifup, grabbed > the 2.6.32-20 linux-image from the snapshot server, and transferred it > from the Dell notebook to the Panasonic notebook over the network. > > However, just as I was about to roll up my sleeves and really start > messing the system up I got your response. I hadn't even thought about > reverting to vesa using /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > I decided to experiment. The system seems to make an abortive attempt at > loading gdm with a different login background from the one I have > designated, and then it succeeds! I'm able to boot using the new kernel! > Is there any reason why I shouldn't just continue this way (using vesa)? > > I can see that the system is slightly slower than it was, but it > honestly isn't enough to bother me. I use these systems strictly for > office applications, e-mail, remote access to other systems, and Web > browsing. Obviously with no proprietary stuff installed I don't use them > for watching movies or playing games online or anything like that. > > > It gets a bit more complicated if the package to be downgraded has tight > > versioned dependencies forcing you to downgrade other packages, but that > > is the basic recipe, and it should work in this case. > > I'll remember that if I decide to proceed with the kernel downgrade. > > > I run "aptitude autoclean" every once in a while, but only when I'm > > reasonably sure there are no major problems with the currently installed > > packages. > > Maybe I'll be a little more circumspect about going all the way with > upgrades from now on. Install apt-listbugs. That way before the packages installs, you will get a list of reported bugs against that package and you can decide if you want to continue or not. > > ;-) > > >> But having my display subsystem blacklisted doesn't seem to be > >> something I can work around. > >> > >> Do you have any specific suggestions as to how I could go about this? > >> Is it time to retire this subnotebook (at least from use with Debian)? > > > > It is a bit early to say this, but users of Intel 8xx graphics have been > > hosed for a while due to frequent GPU lockups, and no satisfactory > > solution has been found so far. > > Yes. This is where I've really been pretty boneheaded. You see, I've > seen Intel 8xx graphics users complaining bitterly for quite a while > now, but I've never had the least bit of trouble with this system, and > it gets used for many hours every day. I imagine I just don't use > applications that tend to give rise to GPU lockups, but I'm running Xfce > with all of the desktop compositing bells and whistles enabled. > > Anyway, I've just been shrugging my shoulders and figuring that maybe > there was something special about this Panasonic's particular > implementation of the graphics hardware that wasn't subject to the > problems people were seeing. It didn't occur to me that my display > subsystem might get blacklisted at some point. > > > The downgraded kernel has a big security hole already (CVE-2010-2240), > > but as long as you don't have malicious local users there is not too > > much to worry about. > > This is a single-user system, and I'm usually not malicious -- well, not > intentionally anyway. As we've seen, sometimes stupidity can accomplish > what one might ordinarily be tempted to attribute to malice. > > :-D > > I'm thinking I should just forge ahead using the vesa driver and keeping > up with the updates. Do you think that's a tenable approach? > > I really appreciate your help, Sven. > > -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283622259.16031.12.ca...@dam-main.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.
Re: Squeeze System "Bricked" after Software Upgrades 09/04
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 10:50 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: > I have a Panasonic subnotebook (CF-R3) that has been functioning > superbly for months under Squeeze with Xfce/gdm. It has an integrated > Intel video system and a Japanese / English keyboard with which I have > used the standard kernel mapping (chosen during Expert install). This is > Squeeze with no proprietary firmware and the stock repositories (no > third party repositories, no non-free, all software installations > throughout the history of the system on this OS being made through > aptitude). > > This morning (09/04) after applying latest updates through aptitude, I > rebooted the system. It hard locked after it started loading gdm. The > REISUB key combination had no effect whatsoever on the system. I was > unable to connect to it via Ethernet. I had to force it down with the > power switch. > > I can boot into recovery mode. I used "touch /forcefsck" to get a file > system check during a reboot. No errors reported. > > Below is the list of software upgrades applied this morning. > > --8<- > [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxapian22 > [UPGRADE] apt 0.7.25.3 -> 0.8.0 > [UPGRADE] apt-utils 0.7.25.3 -> 0.8.0 > [UPGRADE] aptitude 0.6.3-3 -> 0.6.3-3.1 > [UPGRADE] aptitude-doc-en 0.6.3-3 -> 0.6.3-3.1 > [UPGRADE] firmware-linux-free 2.6.32-20 -> 2.6.32-21 > [UPGRADE] libept1 1.0.3 -> 1.0.3+b1 > [UPGRADE] libldap-2.4-2 2.4.17-2.1 -> 2.4.23-4 > [UPGRADE] libparted0debian1 2.3-1 -> 2.3-2 > [UPGRADE] libsdl-gfx1.2-4 2.0.20-1 -> 2.0.20-1.1 > [UPGRADE] linux-base 2.6.32-20 -> 2.6.32-21 > [UPGRADE] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-20 -> 2.6.32-21 > [UPGRADE] python-apt 0.7.96.1 -> 0.7.97.1 > [UPGRADE] python-gobject 2.21.1-2 -> 2.21.4+is.2.21.3-1 > [UPGRADE] python-xapian 1.0.20-1 -> 1.2.3-3 > [UPGRADE] xserver-common 2:1.7.7-3 -> 2:1.7.7-4 > [UPGRADE] xserver-xephyr 2:1.7.7-3 -> 2:1.7.7-4 > [UPGRADE] xserver-xorg-core 2:1.7.7-3 -> 2:1.7.7-4 > --8<- > > I have a very different notebook (Dell Precision M70) that has exactly > the same installation history. (I run them side-by-side, relying upon > the Panasonic system as an emergency backup if the Dell should fail.) No > problems ever running Squeeze on these systems other than some minor > issues in the Nouveau driver transition on the Dell system a couple of > months ago. > > I've tried examining dmesg output, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/Xorg.0.log > -- but, if there is evidence in there of why this is happening I'm not > seeing it. (I'm happy to admit that I've in well over my head on this, > though.) > > From the list of upgraded software I suppose that my problem is either > with the linux-image upgrade or with the xserver upgrades. > Unfortunately, I have no previous kernels from which to boot the system. > It does not have an optical drive, but I can attach one to a USB port > and boot another environment if need be. I have a feeling that this > isn't a hardware issue, though. > > Would someone be willing to lead me through troubleshooting? I'd really > appreciate it! > > Not an exact solution, but perhaps you should not run testing as a desktop: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html Not meant to be snarky, just trying to say testing is for testing. Now, on to something more helpful: can you boot the machine into a live distro of some sort, to verify that the machine it's self does not have a failure? -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283612859.2458.10.ca...@dam-mobile
Re: adding testing repositories
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 20:40 -0500, tom wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 21:25 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 19:42 -0500, tom wrote: > > > Is it recommended to add testing repositories to package list in > > > Synaptic for lenny? > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > Not by me. See this: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html > > > > You add a different repo to your sources list to add a source of > > needed/wanted packages not in the "official" repos: For example debian > > mulitmedia or perhaps you have your own "local" repo. Or you change > > your sources to point to a different branch to upgrade to that branch: > > For example, you wanted to upgrade to testing (see my link above, not > > recommended) or you wanted to upgrade to unstable. > > > > You do not add a source for testing or unstable so you can "pull" > > packages down to add to Lenny. Of course you *could* do that, but you > > did ask if it was recommended. > > > > HTH > > OK. Time to get serious. I installed lenny stable thinking it would > have LiVES on it. I was using Ubuntu 8.04, which LiVES was not able to > run on. Now, it appears LiVES is part of the unstable release of > debian? > > So, should I try to get an .iso file and create a CD of the unstable > release, instead of lenny? > Tom > No. You don't "officially" install Sid. You install stable. You then upgrade using apt-get or aptitude upgrade. See 3.1.11 of the FAQS I linked for you above. I am not sure you are ready for Sid, but then, neither was I when I did it. If you have a working system in stable, I recommend you upgrade, the full-upgrade to testing and then go to Sid, but I think you best bet right now is to do a base install of stable, then an upgrade to sid, then run tasksel and select "Graphical desktop environment" to get X and gnome up and running. -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283481141.2837.5.ca...@dam-main
two sound card problems
Debain Sid. 2.6.32-5-amd64 lspci -l |grep -i audio: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) 05:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] I actually stopped using Debian for about a year because of this, but I insist of finding a solution. The problem: from a stock install the ATI Audio device becomes card 0 and is the default audio device. The problem is that is my Video card and I am not using video out for anything but running my monitor. I have searched for a solution and only have a partial one now: in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf I added to the bottom of the list: blacklist snd_hda_intel blacklist snd_hda_codec_atihdmi This stops the ATI HD hdmidi card from being "seen". My Nvidia AC97 is now card 0 and is detected by alsamixergui (or any other system mixer) instead of the ATI card. However, system sound effects are not heard even though the "speaker" in gnome is not muted (as it was with the ATI card). If I go into /usr/share/sounds/ and open a file with "move player" totem plays the file but no sound is heard. If I do the same thing with vlc, config vlc to use explicitly ALSA audio output, it can play the sound file. I have install pulse audio and I no longer need to select an output mode in the vlc config (gui) to hear sound files. I still can not use "movie player" (totem), banshi, or rythembox to play music with. I am at a loss as to how to get my box to just use my Nvidia AC97 audio card and hear system sounds, play music, etc etc except by using only vlc. Any ideas? aplay -l: aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia CK804] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia CK804 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283476814.2652.129.ca...@dam-main
synaptic configuration differences between two Sid boxes
This has me scratching my head. Two boxes, both set to Sid, the apt sources of one was copied from the other. When I search for sun jre, on one I see sun-java6-bin 6-15-1 (installed and latest version) on the other I see sun-java6-bin 6-14-1 as installed AND latest version. Of course, "reload" does not change this. I have done aptitude clean, same result. When I go to "Settings" >"Repositories" on the 6-14-1 box I get a window titled "Repositories" and it lists all my repos and I can check or uncheck them or add others. On the 6-15-1 box I get a windows titled "Software Sources" with 5 tabs labeled Debian Software, Third-Party Software, Updates, Authnetication, and Statistics Both versions are 0.62.5. I have removed and purged synaptic from the 6-14-1 box and updatedb, locate synaptic. I removed all synaptic files except for ones reffering to Xorg (~./local-somepath/synaptic) Re-installed synaptic and I see the exact same thing and behavior. Why is it I see a different behavior from the same package on Gnome-Desktop. In fact, I routinely run rsync -rav /home/USER to sync the two machines. -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
apt-ia32 is driving me nuts
I know this is the Users-list, but perhaps you can shed some light on this for me. This ia32-lib silliness to make systems work with both x64 and x32 systems and the way it interacts with synaptic/aptitude produces totally wacky outcomes. I just tried to upgrade to current Sid and Sun JRE needs to be removed because Sun java bin needs ia32-java something or another. A few other needed packages also want to be removed. Before I ever knew of apt-ia32 my x64 system worked fine. If (IF) I needed a 32 bit program installed I would just use dpkg --force-architecture foo.deb. Now I find I have to jump through a hoop of using synaptic, aptitude or apt-get to get results that makes sense. Why all the bother? I mean x64 has been around for like five years. Bite the bullet. Who is making x32 systems anymore? Who? Java is x64, flash is beta x64. Firefox works fine in x64, nonfree codex are x64. virt-manager used to work: Error starting Virtual Machine Manager: /usr/lib/virt-manager/sparkline.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 What am I missing? Why all the ia32 silliness? How do I get a sane system back that works with synaptic and aptitude with out removing half my system? I know this is Sid, been using Sid for years. I know all about breakage, this just seems a bit overly complicated. -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Xorg-Xserver Config Issue
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 09:19 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: > Greetings; > > New install using the net-install imaage from Debian.org, installed the > base-system only (no desktop), changed my sources list to 'testing' ass the > net-install defaults to the current stable. During the net-install I selected > the xfce4 desktop. > > Everything seemed to go normally except I wasn't prompted to configure > xserver-xorg before rebooting. Consequently it installed gdm and on reboot > the system freezes shortly after starting gdm. > > So I purged gdm and attempted to 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. This > prompts for keyboard, and language input, but no video prompts. Wierd, I > thought that was the way to reconfigure xserver. > > I'm not that familiar with the Linux GUI as I usually run my GNU/Linux boxes > as GUI-less servers. > > So how do I get xfce4 up and running in Xorg ? > > Thanks > Well, that method USED to work for selecting video settings. It no longer does, everything is done automagically now. I just installed a Sid that did not even have an xorg.conf file. I had to make a basic xorg.conf file to get my X working correctly. You don't have to make all if it up, just the parts of what ever stanza you might need. For example, Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" EndSection The above might be your entire xorg.conf file. To start (and thus test xfce4 and X) you could run startxfce4 and see if it comes up or not. If not, start at the x11 logs. You might have to modify manually your xorg.conf file. HTH, still waking up, I tried hard to make sense. > -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: A Laptop where all hardware is perfectly supported
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 18:34 -0700, fred basset wrote: > Hi All, > > I'll soon be able to spec. a new laptop for my new job. Can anyone > recommend any systems that can run the latest Debian > and support all the hardware out of the box? I prefer IBM and Dell > laptops myself. > It would be great to hear from anyone who's got a perfectly working machine. > > Thanks, > Fred Dell Vostros (at least mine) worked out of the box except for wireless and that was trivial to install. Just use a wire, install the OS read the /var/log/messages after your boot and it gives you a link to go read to install the wireless. I also have a Tohshiba 17" desktop replacement (P305D-S8900) that (here, USA, GA) you can pick up in Office depot for about $550. Everything works out of the box, but of course you have a battery life of minutes. However, if you don't need a road warrior, lots of processing power (you can run kvm machines on this box, for example) and an OUTSTANDING speaker system it can't be beat. Not all (most?) Toshibas are Linux friendly. I took a ubuntu disk with me when I was shopping to test. HTH > -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Musings on debian-user list
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:09 -0700, Mark wrote: > Good point, maybe I'm in the minority of Debian users as I'm not a > programmer. Anywho, I'm just trying to make the Linux desktop > environment as comfortable for my friends as possible, and they've > already used my Clearlooks desktop so I try and keep their setup the > same. > > When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without > the desktop environment. I think this email list is filled with > people very comfortable using no desktop environment, but for those of > us raised on Windoze it takes some time to transition over. :) > > Mark I always prefer a gui, a picture is worth a 1000 words. But I do detest GUI configuration tools. I use a term and nano/vim to edit the configuration files. Oh, and I use gnome w/compiz, run only the "top" panel, delete the bottom one and run awn. > SNIP > -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 22:20 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:27:30 -0400, Damon wrote in message > <1248190050.3741.40.ca...@dam-main>: > > > On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: > > > > But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: > > > > "download amd64cd for sid"...:( > > > > > > This is Debian, not Ubuntu! Upgrading-in-place is Easy. > > > > > > Presuming you have a good internet connection, this *should* be all > > > you need to do: > > > > > > 1. Edit sources.list, replacing all lenny or stable references with > > > testing. > > ..you meant "sid" or "unstable", "testing" buys you Squeeze > and whatever follows it, and you volonteer as a test user, > for Debian. ;o) Right you are! > > > > 2. # apt(itude) update && apt(itude) dist-upgrade > > > > > > 3. Reboot. to activate new kernel. > > > > > > 4. Edit sources.list, replacing testing with unstable. > > > > > > 5. # apt(itude) update && apt(itude) dist-upgrade > > > > > > 6. Reboot, to activate new kernel. > > ..steps 4, 5 and 6 are necessary why? Me, I've > always been successful going straight to Sid. > > > > Certainly, though, I'm forgetting something. > > > > You are: comment out any reference to volatile and security updates. > > > > > > -- > > > Scooty Puff, Sr > > > The Doom-Bringer > > > > > > > > -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: > > But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: "download > > amd64cd for sid"...:( > > This is Debian, not Ubuntu! Upgrading-in-place is Easy. > > Presuming you have a good internet connection, this *should* be all > you need to do: > > 1. Edit sources.list, replacing all lenny or stable references with > testing. > > 2. # apt(itude) update && apt(itude) dist-upgrade > > 3. Reboot. to activate new kernel. > > 4. Edit sources.list, replacing testing with unstable. > > 5. # apt(itude) update && apt(itude) dist-upgrade > > 6. Reboot, to activate new kernel. > > > Certainly, though, I'm forgetting something. You are: comment out any reference to volatile and security updates. > > -- > Scooty Puff, Sr > The Doom-Bringer > > -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how do i grep boobies
On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 16:45 -0500, Chris wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:30:43 -0500 > "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:53:26 -0700 > > Scarletdown wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:34 PM, John Musbach > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I apologize, I had a virus on my computer and it was doing all > > > > kinds of weird stuff. Sorry! > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Comcast Master > > > > Account wrote: > > > > > hi i want boobies so i try grep some boobies but command not > > > > > work how i get boobies thx > > > > > > > > > > Even so, I still have to say "Get a grep on yourself." :) > > > > That was really awkward but I guess it had to be sed. > > > > Cybe R. Wizard > > ... this is just too ... titillating. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Chris > > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" > > Awk! Those were really bad. -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: virt-manager only runs at 800x600
On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 11:16 -0400, Damon Chesser wrote: SNIP I tried to modify xorg.conf to read this: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection Endsection It failed, xrandr still shows the max as 800x600 I am at an end and out of ideas. -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
virt-manager only runs at 800x600
Google has failed me, freenode #kvm refered me to OFTC #virt and they say it is an X thing. I can only get a kvm machine with debian stable at a resolution of 800x600 xrandr --query reports Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600 lspci |grep -i vga: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446 Fedora 11 on the same box running in a kvm reports: Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 lspci |grep -i vga reports the same card as Debian Fedora 11 is not using an xorg.conf file so I can't compare those to files, but Debian xorg.conf file is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" EndSection I have moved xorg.conf out of the way and have received the same result in Debian. Is this a case where the "new" xorg configuration is wrong? How do I get something usable in terms of resolution in a KVM machine using virt-manager? -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
virt-manager only runs at 800x600
Google has failed me, freenode #kvm refered me to OFTC #virt and they say it is an X thing. I can only get a kvm machine with debian stable at a resolution of 800x600 xrandr --query reports Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600 lspci |grep -i vga: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446 Fedora 11 on the same box running in a kvm reports: Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 lspci |grep -i vga reports the same card as Debian Fedora 11 is not using an xorg.conf file so I can't compare those to files, but Debian xorg.conf file is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" EndSection I have moved xorg.conf out of the way and have received the same result in Debian. Is this a case where the "new" xorg configuration is wrong? How do I get something usable in terms of resolution in a KVM machine using virt-manager? -- Damon Chesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny?
On Sunday 15 February 2009 01:19:47 am Girish Kulkarni wrote: > Hello, > > Any news of Lenny yet? The Debian home page continues to say "The > latest stable release of Debian is 4.0." and everyone seems quiet on > the lists. > > The only places that gave an indication that Lenny is indeed the new > stable were the README file on ftp.us.debian.org and Joerg Jaspert > post on his blog: > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/README.html > http://blog.ganneff.de/blog/2009/02/14/lenny-release.html > > What is the typical timescale in which web site update and > upgrade/installation documentation come up? Can I change "etch" to > "lenny" in my sources.list to upgrade? > > Thanks, > Girish. > > -- > Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com Offically released Today, Sunday, February 15, 2009. -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Friday 02 January 2009 13:20:05 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:22:39AM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > had my Dell Vostro 1500 for one year now. No issues. I can run it for 5 > > or 6 hours on battery. As for price, I never buy anything > $500 USD as > > you can boy three or four of those per every expensive machine. So Even > > if it breaks after one year, technology moved forwared, spend another > > $500 USD, and buy a slightly newer version. After three years you are > > greatly ahead in terms of $$ and, if you had to replace your cheap box, > > technology. Just my 2c worth. > > Treating laptops as disposable is a bit hard on the environment. > > Doug. Ehh, we can make more (environment). -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com 404-271-8691 Cell 678-401-8420 hm http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Friday 02 January 2009 01:09:35 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 01 January 2009, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi > > wrote about 'Re: OT: laptop recomendations': > >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> On Wednesday 2008 December 10 16:45:09 Micha Feigin wrote: > >>>Runner up is Dell, although the hardware seems a bit cheap when looking > >>> at the drivers (especially the touchpad which tends to be alps which > >>> isn't up to par with the synaptic). > >> > >> I'm happy with my Dell Inspiron E1505. My roommate is happy with his > >> more recent laptop purchase from Dell. My other roommate likes his > >> Thinkpad, but it is a much older system, so I can't say that reflects > >> the quality of current Thinkpads. > > > >I own a Dell Inspiron E1505. I do not recommend it. Get something else > >(preferably non-Dell). > > > >I always have problems with their batteries, video card. No matter how > > many times I replace the batteries, they seem to go bad after some time. > > I replaced the battery 3 times. After 3-4 months the battery life will > > be reduced to less than 1 hour and then after some time, they just don't > > work. > > I'm still using the original battery, although I did get a spare for when I > will eventually wear out. It depends on what I'm doing, but 4 hours of > battery life is not unheard of, nearly 1.5 years after the purchase date. > > Running the DVD drive constantly *significantly* reduces that, but I can > still use it for at least 90 minutes watching a DVD while running on the > battery. > > >As for the video card, if I play a flash based movie in windows XP, there > >will be a "blue screen memory map" error after some time. FWIW, the > > movies work fine in Linux. I searched in google for this and found that > > the video cards in Dell Inspiron E1505 are defective. > > Link please? > > I'd never even consider installing MS Windows on mine, but I've never had a > video-card related kernel panic or even X crash. I've played plenty of > flash-based video in Linux. The card / drivers don't seem to like each > other a whole lot though. My Etch/Lenny mix I had on it until Dec. 8th > needed to be switched to a test-mode VC and back before it would display > anything after a resume. The openSUSE 11.1 (for work I need turnpike and > the Novell/Nortel plugin) I'm running on it right now appears to do that > for me. > > >In general, I think Dell's hardware is unreliable. They work fine > > initially. But after 1 year or so, things start to fall apart. This is > > if you plan to use laptop intensively (say 8-10 hours a day). But if you > > just use it for 1-2 hours a day, then it's life might be more. > > Mine is a work laptop. I generally use it 8 hours, 5 days a week. It gets > even more use if I've got some problems with my desktop, up to ~12 hours, > 7 days a week. > > The only hardware-related problem I had with it was a "stuck *row*" in the > LCD panel. I lived with it for a while, even using it as a guide for how > I partitioned my desktop with windows (to hide it in the window borders). > However, when I finally got around to calling Dell, they replaced the LCD > panel with no cost to me, sending a technician w/ parts to my workplace so > downtime was minimal. > > Anyway, I'm not sure my experience with a laptop is "norm". You probably > should get multiple (>3) opinions on vendors/models you are considering. Well, had my Dell Vostro 1500 for one year now. No issues. I can run it for 5 or 6 hours on battery. As for price, I never buy anything > $500 USD as you can boy three or four of those per every expensive machine. So Even if it breaks after one year, technology moved forwared, spend another $500 USD, and buy a slightly newer version. After three years you are greatly ahead in terms of $$ and, if you had to replace your cheap box, technology. Just my 2c worth. -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com 404-271-8691 Cell 678-401-8420 hm http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Happy New Year
To all, I have enjoyed reading the many posts and solutions you have provided in the last year. May you all have a Happy New Year and thanks for the education. Sincerely, -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Hypervisor on an existing system?
On Monday 22 December 2008 15:14:06 Ron Johnson wrote: > I don't know enough about the subject to be able to intelligently > Google, so I thought I'd ask first. > > My system is a fully-kitted out Sid system, and I'd like to > experiment with virtual machines. > > Is this possible, or do I have to start from bare metal? > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > I like my women like I like my coffee - purchased at above-market > rates from eco-friendly organic farming cooperatives in Latin America. Ron, I terms of hypervisors, only Xen will be able to run on your kitted out Sid box (with out re-installing). Using xen (not xen-server) you really need to have a newer cpu for full virtualization and I had a very hard time to get a vm to boot twice in a row. I might be slow, but I even have a book or two. The documentation is sparse, not all up to date. In terms of VMware, ESXi is free (as in beer, not speach) but only runs on a very limited hardware set. In terms of what works with it, google, HCL ESX whitebox. I can tell you a Dell inspiron 530 with a intel Pro dekstop gig nic added works for ESXi. However, you will need a win box to manage it. If you get xen working, come over to my house and instruct me! See package xen-linux-system- -- Damon L. Chesser, VCP da...@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Creative Zen mp3 Player
On Saturday 20 December 2008 10:56:10 Raquel wrote: > I got my spouse a Creative Zen 8GB mp3 player for Christmas and I'm > trying to get it loaded with her music before Christmas. I've > charged the player using the USB port but Debian doesn't find the > player. > > I've tried using Gnomad2 and Amarok. Neither will find the player. > Anyone have an idea about this? > > -- > Raquel > http://www.byraquel.com > > Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and > children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, > tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch > towards uniformity. What has been the effects of coercion? To make > one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. > > --Thomas Jefferson I have a Zen Stone 2G mp3 player. It just works in Debian Testing. Plug it in and an icon is made on the desktop in the same way as a usb disk or cd. On my box, Rhythmbox opens up as well. So: I can use Rhythmbox to listen to my music or a file browser/cli to move recordings to it. Running Gnome/XFCE4 on testing. -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com 404-271-8691 Cell 678-401-8420 hm http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to install skype on debian sid amd64?
On Thursday 18 December 2008 22:24:40 Damon L. Chesser wrote: > On Thursday 18 December 2008 22:15:40 Star Liu wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > > > > wrote: > > > On Thursday 2008 December 18 20:15:00 Star Liu wrote: > > >> I found that there is no official debian package for skype, and the > > >> deb package from skype official website is from etch(maybe also i386), > > >> so how to install skype on sid amd64? thanks > > > > > > http://debian-multimedia.org/ has skype packages for sid, IIRC. > > > > thanks, i added the source deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid > > main, and updated it, then searched for skype, nothing added, i guess > > maybe it's because they do not provide the amd64 version. > > > > > -- > > > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. > > > b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) > > > ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' > > > http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ > > > > -- > > I'm a web developer using > > debian+mono(C#)+postgresql+xhtml+javascript+xsl+xml+css > > my home is http://www.starliu.com > > Ahhh, no amd64 version. There is a work around and it is ugly and it does > work here, last I tried it. > > Download the i386 file. > > dpkg -i --architecture i386.package.name.deb Correction: dpkg -i --force-architecture i386.package.name.deb > > it will complain of missing dependencies. apt-cache search, or use > synaptic and find those packages: go to debian.org and download those > packages in i386 packages. Install one at a time using --architecture for > dpkg and retry skype. When the magic total is correct, skype will install. > > Please read dpkg --force-help > > dpkg --force-anything can bork your box. This did work on my box, it > might not work on yours. > > HTH > > -- > Damon L. Chesser > da...@damtek.com > 404-271-8691 Cell > 678-401-8420 hm > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com 404-271-8691 Cell 678-401-8420 hm http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to install skype on debian sid amd64?
On Thursday 18 December 2008 22:15:40 Star Liu wrote: > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > > wrote: > > On Thursday 2008 December 18 20:15:00 Star Liu wrote: > >> I found that there is no official debian package for skype, and the > >> deb package from skype official website is from etch(maybe also i386), > >> so how to install skype on sid amd64? thanks > > > > http://debian-multimedia.org/ has skype packages for sid, IIRC. > > thanks, i added the source deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid > main, and updated it, then searched for skype, nothing added, i guess > maybe it's because they do not provide the amd64 version. > > > -- > > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. > > b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) > > ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' > > http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ > > -- > I'm a web developer using > debian+mono(C#)+postgresql+xhtml+javascript+xsl+xml+css > my home is http://www.starliu.com Ahhh, no amd64 version. There is a work around and it is ugly and it does work here, last I tried it. Download the i386 file. dpkg -i --architecture i386.package.name.deb it will complain of missing dependencies. apt-cache search, or use synaptic and find those packages: go to debian.org and download those packages in i386 packages. Install one at a time using --architecture for dpkg and retry skype. When the magic total is correct, skype will install. Please read dpkg --force-help dpkg --force-anything can bork your box. This did work on my box, it might not work on yours. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com 404-271-8691 Cell 678-401-8420 hm http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: LVM reorganization
On Thursday 18 December 2008 02:49:40 M.Lewis wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Thursday 18 December 2008, "M.Lewis" wrote > > > > about 'Re: LVM reorganization': > >> Thanks Boyd. After reading through it a couple of times, it appears > >> pretty straight forward. > > > > I've done it probably a dozen times now, and it's not hard if you are > > careful. It also helps to know your way around either fuser or lsof to > > find (and kill if needed) processes using the areas you are moving to > > different LVs. > > > > Shrinking the LV is probably the most dangerous part. You don't want to > > have the filesystem be bigger than it's LV at any point. Make *sure* any > > filesystem on shrunk LVs are good before you start writing data to new or > > extended LVs. That data might end up over-writing the end of the > > filesystem! > > Please elaborate on how this is done. Visually? 'du -h'? Oh, to many pronouns, You want to know how to tell if you shrink the LVM smaller then the file system. Yes. du, df, something like gtkdiskfree for the cli impaired. In general, you want to know how much disk (read LVM partition) is used, how much is free, any tool you use would be good. > > [snip] > > -- > > To be, or not to be, those are the parameters. >01:45:01 up 1 day, 1:22, 1 user, load average: 1.71, 1.52, 1.17 > > Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com 404-271-8691 Cell 678-401-8420 hm http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: LVM reorganization
On Thursday 18 December 2008 02:49:40 M.Lewis wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Thursday 18 December 2008, "M.Lewis" wrote > > > > about 'Re: LVM reorganization': > >> Thanks Boyd. After reading through it a couple of times, it appears > >> pretty straight forward. > > > > I've done it probably a dozen times now, and it's not hard if you are > > careful. It also helps to know your way around either fuser or lsof to > > find (and kill if needed) processes using the areas you are moving to > > different LVs. > > > > Shrinking the LV is probably the most dangerous part. You don't want to > > have the filesystem be bigger than it's LV at any point. Make *sure* any > > filesystem on shrunk LVs are good before you start writing data to new or > > extended LVs. That data might end up over-writing the end of the > > filesystem! > > Please elaborate on how this is done. Visually? 'du -h'? Run fsck on what ever filesystem you are using. Fix any errors you find. > > [snip] > > -- > > To be, or not to be, those are the parameters. >01:45:01 up 1 day, 1:22, 1 user, load average: 1.71, 1.52, 1.17 > > Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Cannot get Etch installer to accept partitions -- success
Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:06:26PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: No, I have not. Perhaps I should report not only the foregoing but also comment on the Installation Guide. I have spent a significant part of my career writing technical manuals. The Guide violates just about every good practice recommended for such documents. Any constructive criticisim should be welcome. I would NEVER make /boot anything but ext3. It is well known, well supported and the tools for it are everywhere. There is no reason to have it as anything else. But that is just me. xfs is real good at large files. There are no large files in /boot. Now, I suppose that TODAY a lot more rescue toys have xfs installed, so this might not be such a big deal. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cupsys installation
Tom Allison wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:11:56PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: Is there any way to install cups without introducing any of the X11 libraries? I am trying to set this up on a headless box that doesn't have the resources available for needlessly running X11. If you have a resource-limited box, you probably don't want to run CUPS. What is it you're trying to do. CUPS is only one of a few print spooler systems available. Doug. It's not a limited box. But I have no need to have my RAM and CPU invested in running X when it will never be used. I've tried installing cups over the last two days and it's turning into a real cluster of a mess. I think somewhere I was even able to convince aptitude that it didn't really need to install dependencies - I was messing around with apt.conf for a while. After restoring apt.conf it was still giving me grief. The last problem I had was that I could identify a printer, but when I selected the PPD file to add the printer, everything would just hang with no mention of errors or issues in debug mode. I suppose if you really wanted to install cups with out the X11 deps, you could try downloading the .debs from debian.org and then start using dpkg --force-depends-version $packagename.deb. However, this could have fun and interesting effects. I find it strange and even kind of bizarre, this attitude that I don't want X libs on my box to free up the resources because you don't have the resources available for needlessly running X11. If this is the case, just don't run X and no resources are used aside from some disk space. OTOH, I can totally see why you would not want to run X from a security point, and in that vain, even having it installed could lead to some unknown exploit. OTHO, if you are going to be running a print server, how critical could this box be? I do share your frustration in what sometimes seems to be needless deps (like operea , which I never use is called by gnome package and removing it breaks tons of things.). I suppose you could always get the source and recompile it for your secure installation? Baring that, start trying the dpkg --force-depends-version and start installing the packages one by one until you have a working cupsys. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
Micha Feigin wrote: Hello, Sorry for being a bit off topic but it's time for a new laptop that will run linux solely and I'm looking for recomendation on what has a good build quallity (will travel), descent battery life, although more important is good computing power and a good screen at 15.4" (needs to be workable with the screen) at a price range of around 1500$ rough ballpark. Good service is a must since it's a working laptop. I know that hp and compaq are a big no no (build quality is shaky at best). I also have the worst experience possible with Sony support on just about every continent (haven't managed to run into worse). Lenovo 3000 series also has a bad track run at our uni in terms of build quallity, no experience with the ideapad pad heard that they are not much brighter. Currently the best candidates are the lenovo thinkpad series (either stick with the older and probed t61 or go with the t500 or similar), mac (not sure about the one button issue although the design is nice). Runner up is Dell, although the hardware seems a bit cheap when looking at the drivers (especially the touchpad which tends to be alps which isn't up to par with the synaptic). Toshiba local dealers didn't prove themselves with a friends laptop. Can't find anyone with experience with lg and fujitsu. Will be happy for feedback/experience/hardware trouble/Service experience in case of mulfunciton etc. Thanks Well, I think you just asked "What is the best religion?" I like my Dell Vostro 1500. Sealed keyboard, titanium skeleton inside to prevent flex. Vostros can't be docked but Latitudes can be and have those very same features. With my 9 cell battery, I have battery for at least 5 hours (my power applet reports 7 hours, but I never trim the brightness and such things to archive that.) It is big, bulky, heavy. It also is tough. All version of Linux (that I tried) runs just fine. Mine is running Debian Testing right now. I also have the Dell wireless (which is a broadcom) and had no problem in getting it to work. Watch out for getting the Intel wireless, you need to make sure that it is not a newer one not supported (happened to a friend who got a 1700). It is pretty, like a tank or an attach aircraft is pretty, built to take abuse. I have no problems with it. OTHO, my friend purchased a 1700 from Dell's refurbed site. It had stability issues and after many calls to Dell, they had him ship it back. A week later he got it back and the wireless would not work (it appears to have been the wrong one installed). Dell had him ship it back for more work. Now here is the Good news. Two week later, they shipped him a brand new Vostro 1700, with a HD upgrade to 300GB (from 100GB) at no charge. So: You can get great deals from Dells refurbished site, they seem to stand behind warranty issues. IMHO, stop looking at Consumer grade laptops, look at business class machines. For Dell that is the Vostro, Latitude, Precision and XPS Laptops. HTH! Damon Chesser da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
another new email test as requested by hosted provider
test, ignore, checking headers for relay time. sent 4:43 EST 12/3/08 -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new email test to debian user
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 16:19 -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > sent 4:18 PM, EST 12/1/08 > > and I am subscribed to whitelist. > > > -- > Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Replying as requested by my hosted site. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new email test to debian user
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 13:34 +, Bob Cox wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 21:03:36 -0500, Damon L. Chesser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > Testing for my rely. Sorry for the noise, there will be no more follow > > ups by me if this goes through > > > > 1/12/08 21:03 EST > > I think you mean 2/12/08 ;-) yes I did, I have one of those analog date displays on my watch I always forget to move to the 1st if there are only 30 days in the month. It appears to be to hard to look up at my tool bar that has the date right on it. > > But there is still something odd going on. The headers show you sending > from your mail and it being accepted by damtek.com at 21:03:36 -0500 > which is as you said above: > > Received: from c-71-204-23-31.hsd1.ga.comcast.net (HELO > ?192.168.200.15?) (71.204.23.31) > by damtek.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 21:03:36 -0500 > > but next we see: > > Received: from damtek.com (damtek.com [72.172.134.65]) (using TLSv1 with > cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plesk", Issuer > "plesk" (not verified)) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id > 2A5CE13A4CDB for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 > 08:50:33 + (UTC) > > 21:03:36 -0500 is 02:03:36 UTC so it seems that damtek.com did not pass > on the message to liszt.debian.org for over eight hours. > > -- > Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. > Please reply to the list only. Do NOT send copies directly to me. > Debian on the NSLU2: http://bobcox.com/slug/ > > -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new email test to debian user
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 13:34 +, Bob Cox wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 21:03:36 -0500, Damon L. Chesser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > Testing for my rely. Sorry for the noise, there will be no more follow > > ups by me if this goes through > > > > 1/12/08 21:03 EST > > I think you mean 2/12/08 ;-) > > But there is still something odd going on. The headers show you sending > from your mail and it being accepted by damtek.com at 21:03:36 -0500 > which is as you said above: > > Received: from c-71-204-23-31.hsd1.ga.comcast.net (HELO > ?192.168.200.15?) (71.204.23.31) > by damtek.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 21:03:36 -0500 > > but next we see: > > Received: from damtek.com (damtek.com [72.172.134.65]) (using TLSv1 with > cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plesk", Issuer > "plesk" (not verified)) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id > 2A5CE13A4CDB for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 > 08:50:33 + (UTC) > > 21:03:36 -0500 is 02:03:36 UTC so it seems that damtek.com did not pass > on the message to liszt.debian.org for over eight hours. > > -- > Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. > Please reply to the list only. Do NOT send copies directly to me. > Debian on the NSLU2: http://bobcox.com/slug/ Bob, Indeed. I wanted to check the headers, but frankly, I forgot! Don't tell anyone, I would look stupid. I suspect the ones I sent that did not get through just got eaten by damtek.com. Time to call the host provider. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new email test to debian user
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 16:19 -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > sent 4:18 PM, EST 12/1/08 > > and I am subscribed to whitelist. > > > -- > Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Testing for my rely. Sorry for the noise, there will be no more follow ups by me if this goes through 1/12/08 21:03 EST -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new email test to debian user
sent 4:18 PM, EST 12/1/08 and I am subscribed to whitelist. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
not all messages getting through to the list
I have noticed a huge delay in time before my messages get posted to the list or even a complete lack of them getting through at all. This is a test to see if they are getting posted. Local time sent 12:19 pm, 11/27/08 The above email never showed up in email nor on the website lists.debian.org/debian-user resending to the list and the maintainer on November 28th, 12:08 EST USA -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 18:25 -0600, lee wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:35:22PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > > 350 MB? I have not cleaned my thumbnails since early 2007 or so > > and I had 1.6 GB. > > You probably have been using applications that create thumbnails more > than I did. I'm using some gnome applications, but I'm not using > gnome ... > > > And my /home disk is only 120 GB, but I still don't care. I would > > care if my ~ is messy, but XDG standards are starting to fix that. > > Well, my data goes back about 10 to 15 years, and I'm at 117GB atm. I > spent most of the day yesterday to clean it up and sort some things > out, and that reduced it from 120GB to 117. I still haven't figured > out what takes up so much space ... SNIP See package Filelight. Very useful to "see" where all your disk space is used and by what. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dynamic resolv.conf issues
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 02:13 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:50:09AM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > ... > > > > Both run current Lenny. A pulls it's dns from what looks like my home > > > > router. B does not. I might have put that dns info there in the past, > > > > but if so, it does not get overwritten. I still don't know what is > > > > overwritting my B box resolv.conf or why my A box does not suffer from > > > > the same fate. > > > > > > So, which of boxes A and B have the 'resolvconf' package installed? It > > > seems > > > like B does not but A does. If A does not, then something else is > > > modifying > > > the /etc/resolv.conf file which I think should not. > > > > > > The purpose of resolvconf is to manage the list of nameservers as > > > interfaces > > > (and their respective nameservers) come and go. > > > > Yes, you are right. B has resolvconf, A does not. Also worth noting is > > that B has stopped dumping my nameserver 192.168.200.1 (after a few > > daily updates to testing). I will have to look into this resolvconf and > > see how resolv.conf.d fits into this. Thanks, I missed the glaring CLUE > > in your first response about resolvconf and just jumped to reading the > > man page for resolvconf. One more piece put together for me. > > > After reading previous verion of Debian specific network configuration > document section by the resolvconf author, I have created new one here: > > http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch06.en.html I will peruse this. Obviously, I have a lack of knowledge of Debian network configuration. > > > -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dynamic resolv.conf issues
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 23:23 -0700, green wrote: > On Wed, 2008.11.19, 324, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 19:41 -0700, green wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008.11.18, 323, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > > On Lenny, I am not running that tool. What is overwriting my > > > > resolv.conf and how do I keep the correct data while using static IP? > > > > > > Is the 'resolvconf' package installed? If so, the resolvconf(8) man page > > > outlines how to include nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces. > > > > Interesting. THIS box does not have dns-nameservers x.x.x.x in > > interfaces, it is Lenny, updated to current and does not suffer from > > this problem. > > > > I have never installed that dns- line in interfaces before. > > > > This box (call it A): > > > > # The primary network interface > > allow-hotplug eth0 > > iface eth0 inet static > > address 192.168.200.15 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > gateway 192.168.200.1 > > auto eth0 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf > > domain damtek.org > > search damtek.org > > nameserver 68.87.68.162 > > nameserver 68.87.74.162 > > nameserver 68.87.64.196 > > > > > > > > The bad box (call it B) > > > > # The primary network interface > > allow-hotplug eth0 > > iface eth0 inet static > > address 192.168.200.18 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > gateway 192.168.200.1 > > auto eth0 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf > > nameserver 192.168.200.1 > > > > -- > > > > Both run current Lenny. A pulls it's dns from what looks like my home > > router. B does not. I might have put that dns info there in the past, > > but if so, it does not get overwritten. I still don't know what is > > overwritting my B box resolv.conf or why my A box does not suffer from > > the same fate. > > So, which of boxes A and B have the 'resolvconf' package installed? It seems > like B does not but A does. If A does not, then something else is modifying > the /etc/resolv.conf file which I think should not. > > The purpose of resolvconf is to manage the list of nameservers as interfaces > (and their respective nameservers) come and go. Yes, you are right. B has resolvconf, A does not. Also worth noting is that B has stopped dumping my nameserver 192.168.200.1 (after a few daily updates to testing). I will have to look into this resolvconf and see how resolv.conf.d fits into this. Thanks, I missed the glaring CLUE in your first response about resolvconf and just jumped to reading the man page for resolvconf. One more piece put together for me. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resolv.conf issues
This message has been sent twice. Resending it after changing the Subject to see if spam filters are hitting me. Was Re: dynamic resolv.conf issues. On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 19:41 -0700, green wrote: > On Tue, 2008.11.18, 323, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Lenny, I am not running that tool. What is overwriting my > > resolv.conf and how do I keep the correct data while using static IP? > > Is the 'resolvconf' package installed? If so, the resolvconf(8) man page > outlines how to include nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces. Interesting. THIS box does not have dns-nameservers x.x.x.x in interfaces, it is Lenny, updated to current and does not suffer from this problem. I have never installed that dns- line in interfaces before. This box (call it A): # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.200.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.200.1 auto eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf domain damtek.org search damtek.org nameserver 68.87.68.162 nameserver 68.87.74.162 nameserver 68.87.64.196 The bad box (call it B) # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.200.18 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.200.1 auto eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.200.1 -- Both run current Lenny. A pulls it's dns from what looks like my home router. B does not. I might have put that dns info there in the past, but if so, it does not get overwritten. I still don't know what is overwritting my B box resolv.conf or why my A box does not suffer from the same fate. The post about man resolvconf points to a solution, but I would like to know what is really going on that both boxes are not effected. btw, I tried man resolv.conf NOT man resolvconf. Good info that, does not explain what is going on between these two boxes, but does show how to fix it once and for all. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dynamic resolv.conf issues
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 19:41 -0700, green wrote: > On Tue, 2008.11.18, 323, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Lenny, I am not running that tool. What is overwriting my > > resolv.conf and how do I keep the correct data while using static IP? > > Is the 'resolvconf' package installed? If so, the resolvconf(8) man page > outlines how to include nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces. Interesting. THIS box does not have dns-nameservers x.x.x.x in interfaces, it is Lenny, updated to current and does not suffer from this problem. I have never installed that dns- line in interfaces before. This box (call it A): # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.200.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.200.1 auto eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf domain damtek.org search damtek.org nameserver 68.87.68.162 nameserver 68.87.74.162 nameserver 68.87.64.196 The bad box (call it B) # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.200.18 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.200.1 auto eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.200.1 -- Both run current Lenny. A pulls it's dns from what looks like my home router. B does not. I might have put that dns info there in the past, but if so, it does not get overwritten. I still don't know what is overwritting my B box resolv.conf or why my A box does not suffer from the same fate. The post about man resolvconf points to a solution, but I would like to know what is really going on that both boxes are not effected. btw, I tried man resolv.conf NOT man resolvconf. Good info that, does not explain what is going on between these two boxes, but does show how to fix it once and for all. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dynamic resolv.conf issues
First saw this on a test install of ubuntu 8.10. resolv.conf would not keep nameserver x.x.x.x data. Fixed that by nuking Ubuntu and installed Debian testing. A few days ago, I started seeing the same behavior when I reboot: no namserver data in the dynamically generated resolv.conf. I can fix this by using the gnome-network-manager or echo 'nameserver x.x.x.x' >/etc/resolv.conf In the case of ubuntu this was caused by a buggy nm-configuration-manager IIRC. Once you left DHCP you could not effect any changes via the gui tool (permission denied to write). On Lenny, I am not running that tool. What is overwriting my resolv.conf and how do I keep the correct data while using static IP? -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to disable unused sound chip
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:58 +1000, Bob wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:07 +0200, Juha Tuuna wrote: > > > >> Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> > >>> ... > >>> How to I use udev (and hotplug?) to disable this unused ATI sound chip > >>> and to select my onboard Nvidia sound chip? > >>> > >> Try /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist > >> Add the ATI module to the list, that should do it. > >> > >> > > Juha, > > > > Yes, that worked. Just to make a close loop, I am posting what I did > > here: > > > > lsmod did not show any ati driver for anything, but did show > > snd_ha_intel and since I know I am not running an intel sound chip and > > the sound device is listed as ATI HA with lspci, I ran rmmod > > snd_ha_intel and I had sound. > > > > I added "blacklist snd_ha_intel" to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and > > rebooted. It came up with sound, and my selected "sound device" for > > gkrellm volume was still active (previously, gkrellm would not have any > > volume controls after a reboot). > > > > Another solution would be not to disable / blacklist it but to stop it > from becoming the > default sound device by putting a line at the bottom of > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base like this > > options snd-ha-intel index=-2 > > I have to do something similar to stop the microphone in my webcam from > randomly becoming master, it has the advantage that you can still use > the device when / if you want / need. > > Good luck Bob, Yes, that also worked just fine. The only problem remaining is my volume plugin for gkrellm does not come back up with my controls enabled: After every reboot, I have to reconfigure the plug in to have volume sliders for Master, PCM, CD, etc etc. This happens if I blacklist it or set alsa priority to -2 -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to disable unused sound chip
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:07 +0200, Juha Tuuna wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > ... > > How to I use udev (and hotplug?) to disable this unused ATI sound chip > > and to select my onboard Nvidia sound chip? > > Try /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist > Add the ATI module to the list, that should do it. > > -- > Juha Tuuna > > Juha, Yes, that worked. Just to make a close loop, I am posting what I did here: lsmod did not show any ati driver for anything, but did show snd_ha_intel and since I know I am not running an intel sound chip and the sound device is listed as ATI HA with lspci, I ran rmmod snd_ha_intel and I had sound. I added "blacklist snd_ha_intel" to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and rebooted. It came up with sound, and my selected "sound device" for gkrellm volume was still active (previously, gkrellm would not have any volume controls after a reboot). Thanks! -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to disable unused sound chip
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3450 That is my video card, running non-free drivers for it just fine. Unfortunately this card also has a Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] Which is unused by both the card (no audio output on the video card) and myself, which is detected and selected as an audio device at boot. Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) <--this is my MB sound chip which is used by me. My bios does not allow me to set anything but disable the onboard sound card. How to I use udev (and hotplug?) to disable this unused ATI sound chip and to select my onboard Nvidia sound chip? -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stupid nautilus question
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:24 +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: > On 18/10/08 16:15, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > Here is a stupid nautilus question: > > > > you can open (in browser mode) nautilus and start typing, > > say, /usr/share/doc and a small window opens on the bottom right with > > your paty you are typing. However, it never brings you to the location > > when you hit enter, at lesast on my box. IIRC this used to work and it > > worked in XFCE. I stoped using XFCE due to massive memory leaking. > > > > How do you get that function working and if it does not work, what is > > the typing supposed to be for? It is much faster to typ /path then to > > use the point and click navigation. Don't make me go to KDE! > > Ctrl-L opens the location bar, where you can type the path where you > want to go. > > When you just start typing it does sort of 'quick find' - goes to the > first file in the directory which matches what you typed. > > -- > Kind regards, > Michal R. Hoffmann Well, I said it was a stupid question, but a good answer. In the words of Linus, "that's real intuitive!" Thanks. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stupid nautilus question
Here is a stupid nautilus question: you can open (in browser mode) nautilus and start typing, say, /usr/share/doc and a small window opens on the bottom right with your paty you are typing. However, it never brings you to the location when you hit enter, at lesast on my box. IIRC this used to work and it worked in XFCE. I stoped using XFCE due to massive memory leaking. How do you get that function working and if it does not work, what is the typing supposed to be for? It is much faster to typ /path then to use the point and click navigation. Don't make me go to KDE! -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Disk: On to LVM?
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 23:26 +0200, Johannes wrote: > On 2008-10-14 22:01, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > Google lvm tldp for the howto. > > or just: > > # aptitude install doc-linux-html > > $ iceweasel /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/LVM-HOWTO/index.html & > > > Johannes > > Funny, never knew that! -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: live cd with lvm
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:55 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Hi, > I am looking for a live CD with lvm on it. Or if you have a better solution, > here is my problem: > On 3 debian laptops with lvm, the root partition is too small. So I have > problems when aptitude upgrade the kernel. I got the error message: no place > left on device. Last time I got around using tune2fs to change the > percentage of reserved blocks. But on the last upgrade, it was not enough. > As I understand, to change the size of a partition under lvm, it need to be > not mounted. So, the problem for the root partition, and the need for a live > cd. I also thought of moving some folder from the root partition to the home > partition and to make a simlink, but I was not sure my knoledge were strong > enought to do that; > Any avice welcome. > Thanks > Thierry > > You can hot add space to a lv, but not take space away from a lv. So if you have spare room on the disk, then you can just lvextend then resize2fs (assuming ext3). If you have no spare room on the disk, you will need to boot into say, single user mode, umount some lv (say /home) and resize the fs smaller, then lvresize smaller. You can now add the unused extends to the small root: lvextend -l SOMEEXTENDSNUMBER /dev/VGName/LVName resize2fs /dev/VGName/LVName HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Disk: On to LVM?
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 20:01 +0200, David Baron wrote: > I have Debian Sid (with KDE4) in various partitions, shared with three vfats > for Win98, Shared data and audio files, on two 40gig disks. I have had to > make > a lot of partitions to expand and shoe-horn in as the linux needs expanded. > So > one of these 40gigers, a maxtor which has been giving problems, may be > replaced with an 80gig disk. So I must decide on a sane partition scheme. > Part > of it will be for the audio, but most, 60-70gig will be for Debian, neto. > > 1. I want to replace the numerous partitions I have evolved into a reasonable > number of partitions. Recommendations? > > 2. To avoid such problems in the future, is LVM the way to go? Step by step > on > how to set it up? > > Well, where to start? For vfat, you will not use lvm. You will have to use real partitions for that. Same for winows OS partition. As for the Linux: When you install using the DI, when you partition, that is the best time to use LVM. 1. Make a /boot partition. Give it an ext3 fs. (grub can not boot from lvm, though perhaps grub2 can) 2. After that, make one big partition using all the space left over (after windows, after vfat, after /boot) 3. For "Use as:" highlight and enter 1.physical volume for LVM 2. Done setting up partition 3. Up top, Configure the Logcial Volume Manager 4. Yes, write the changes to disk (make sure it is the way you want it first) 5. Create volume group ( I use something like SystemVG. You could have rootVG, storageVG, etc etc. I always make one VG and sub-divide it by using local Volumes (rootLV usrLV storageLV, swapLV, etc etc)) 6.Type in your Volume Group name (systemVG) 7. check your devices (should only be one, assuming you have one HD) 8.Now you need to make Logical Volumes 9. Select your VG (only one to choose in this example) 10. type in the logical volume name. For root I use LV_root (it just makes it easy to read, non-cryptic names instantly tell you what you are dealing with). For this part, partition this just like you would for regular linux partitioning. If you like haveing a 4G /, make it. The advantage here is if you make the partition to small, you can later, hot and mounted, make it bigger. You can not make it smaller "hot and mounted". To take room from a LV, you have to umount it first, then shrink it. So plan the sizes as needed if you want multiple partitions. All the same rules apply (usr should have it's own, tmp should be on it's own, /var/log should be separated, etc etc) and if just don't care and it's your home box, one big one will work fine. For my home box, I use LV_root and typically LV_home plus LV_swap. You need to put some thought into this. I don't see an issue with your home box having one large partition or two large partition (plus another for swap) if you want to keep a resilient /home. Season to your taste. When done, go "Finish". 11.Now move down and find your LV_swap and select it (the entery just below LV_swap, indented in) 12. Use as: pick swap, done 13, repeat for each LV_X you made, mount it as the point you named it. Finish and write changes to disk. I would NOT select any vfat or ntfs partitions here. Every time I do, the patitioner pukes (anaconda, DI, they all do). Wait until you have a system installed then edit fstab to add them. man LVM vg TAB TAB lv TAB TAB to see commands you can do. Google lvm tldp for the howto. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling a Debian kernel The Debian Way
On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 17:51 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,11.Oct.08, 10:23:37, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > [...] > > > Is kernel-package still considered good (there is a bug against it: > > kernel-packaged eaten by bit rot). > > > > I have not kept up on "current" methods, I just stuck with one that > > worked. > > I guess you missed the latest post(s) of Manoj Srivastava > (kernel-package maintainer): > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/10/msg00485.html > > Regards, > Andrei Yup, missed that. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filing bug reports in Debian (was Re: Debian Stole My Name!)
On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 10:20 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Saturday 11 October 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:52:09 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Sat,11.Oct.08, 03:32:23, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > I've *never* had a DD get hostile with me. Ignored? Yes. But > > > > not hostile. > > > > > > Me neither, not even when I screwed up big time (#499594). > > > > > > The response of Julien Cristau was exemplary, even though I wasted > > > his time (during the freeze!) with my stupidity. > > > > This thread feels like déjà vu all over again: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/04/msg03365.html > > > > The link in the message does not turn up anything because the bug > > report has been archived in the meantime; here is the direct link: > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354243 > > Which has a good chance of being the only bug, anywhere, that I filed > under by birth name. I won't go into details on the reasoning because > that's way too OT. > > I still maintain that the issue had more to do with the issue than the > response said, however in that case, but I felt the responder was more > interested in writing it off than in dealing with the issue or helping > me figure out where the bug should have been categorized under. > > > Hal This is purely subjective, but I have not had a bad experience at all. I filed a bug against the (debian) kernel for cups printer not printing. I quickly found out it was not a debian specific bug and the kernel dev responsible for the IP stack in The kernel contacted me when he saw the bug report. He then moved it out of debian, into the kernel it's self and worked with me directly until he got a fix. https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/linux/+bug/213081 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=478062 http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kerberos with LDAP backend / Replace active directory
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 22:10 +0200, Clifford W. Hansen wrote: > I'm looking to setup Kerberos with an LDAP backend, I have found a couple of > howtos and nothing seems to be complete. > > Has anybody set this up before and have documentation on how to replicate it. > > Basically what I am doing is trying to replace our Active Directory, with a > samba domai Well, this link has a real good howto on the ldap part and another one on kerberos on ldap: http://techpubs.spinlocksolutions.com/dklar/ldap.html http://techpubs.spinlocksolutions.com/dklar/kerberos.html Not sure if that answers your question, but it is a start on getting an LDAP server up and running with kerberos authentication. Then you can work on the SAMBA part and plug in LDAP. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling a Debian kernel The Debian Way
After reading a post here asking for help about a kernel that was not compiled correctly, I went to the link the OP posted and read that. http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian Here is what I did in the past: make menuconfig/xconfig/gconfig/oldconfig make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image (some options omitted or added like --append-to-version=foo) dpkg -i some_kernel_img.deb the above link says to use yaird to make the initrd. Recently, while playing with Xen, I had to compile the Xen kernel and did it like this: make menu make all make modules modules_install make install cd /boot mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-new_kernel_name (edit grub to boot new kernel) The questions: What is The Debian way as of now? I have just used kernel-package for years. Why use yaird or mkinitramfs? Which is the preferred method and why? Is kernel-package still considered good (there is a bug against it: kernel-packaged eaten by bit rot). I have not kept up on "current" methods, I just stuck with one that worked. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 18:25 +, Michael Perry wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:40:05 +0200, David Sanders wrote: > > On Thursday 25 September 2008 17:51, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> @dam-main:~$ uname -r > >> 2.6.26.cybo.2.0 > >> > >> @dam-main:~$ dpkg -l |grep vmware > >> ii vmware-workstation6.5.0-110069 > >> VMware Workstation > >> ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:10.16.2-1 > >> X.Org X server -- VMware display driver > >> > > > > Is workstation worth $189 when there are free alternatives? > > > > > That's a good question. I downloaded the latest workstation update since I > already have the 6.x release of VMware Workstation. VMware Workstation has > the so-called Unity feature which lets guest windows run on the host system > without seeing the entire guest OS desktop. Is that worth the price of > admission? > Secondly, there is a redone installation process if you download the tarball > where it does the install within some kind of gui'ey window. But for me, and > the reason I took it off; is that Unity really requires a heftier piece of > hardware than what I have. I have Thinkpad T43s running Ubuntu and > Debian TEsting with 1 and 1.5gb of memory. The performance hit after updating > was pretty significant. You can run VMware Player that comes with Workstation > 6.5 in "unity mode" as well. But everything slows way down. > > One other thing which I just noticed in any VM session which perhaps never > did work > is that I can never get RPC over HTTPs for Outlook 2007 to work on any VM > session on > Server, Workstation, etc. I'm still puzzling that one. With the same setup on > a native > Windows Vista system, I can connect to our EXchange 2007 server with no > problems. > Anybody know why this may be happening? > > The big answer is that Workstation is a nice free upgrade Imo. Its not really > worth the price of admission if you have "lesser hardware" and want Unity. > If you want to pay for a nice installer it may be a nice upgrade path :) > > What are the other things that people feel are reasonable features that > they upgraded to 6.5 or bought 6.5 for? I myself am getting very irate at VMware (and I am a VCP). They are so windows centric. Just today, trying to install some OSs for testing in workstation 6.5 I had strange windows selection out of vmware. The only fix was to restart X. Nothing INSIDE the windows of linux could be selected, just the tool bar menus. Sometimes you will lose your special keys on the keyboard (just things like Shift, ctrl, alt, all function keys, etc) and the only fix is to restart X. I am looking at xen (seems rather complicated to set up) and kvm (very easy to set up) to answer my VM needs. I have not had the time to put much into yet, but it looks promising. In testing xen was neck and neck with ESX vms in performance speed. I think the only thing VMware has now is management tools and with things like Bluebears Kodiac and a few others, that will also change. Workstation 6.5 is adequate for what I use it for, but it is very unproductive to have to stop and restart X every so often. I suspect xen and kvm will work just as well with out those issues. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
> > > Ah, that's the workstation. I was talking about the server. > > Hugo Yes, it is, but I have done server as well. Workstation is what I have installed now. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 18:28 -0400, David Sanders wrote: > On Thursday 25 September 2008 17:51, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > @dam-main:~$ uname -r > > 2.6.26.cybo.2.0 > > > > @dam-main:~$ dpkg -l |grep vmware > > ii vmware-workstation6.5.0-110069 > > VMware Workstation > > ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:10.16.2-1 > > X.Org X server -- VMware display driver > > > > Is workstation worth $189 when there are free alternatives? > > Purely subjective. I think not, but if you need it for work or don't want to learn how to run some other alternative, then yes. It does allow you to make virt. networks very easily. Completely up to you, wither you have the time and inclination to learn another system or not. I think kvm is very good, have not had time to learn the virt. networking yet, but it is running ubuntu x64 at (as far as I can tell) hardware speed. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 15:06 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 07:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> VMware's vmserver 2 is out. > >> > >> Anybody figure out how to use wget to download it? > >> > >> Hugo > >> > >> > > On another note, while I am on the subject: > > > > They way I install server/workstation is quite different from most ways > > I see published on the web on this list. > > > > I download the .rpm: alien --scripts *.rpm > > > > dpkg -i vmserver-blah.rpm > > > > In this way your package manager knows it is installed. Newer versions > > are easy to deal with, just use dpkg -i to install those and your > > package is updated to the new version. Problems? Just use > > apt/synaptic/dpkg to uninstall it. > > > > I have never (but once during a 25 kernel IIRC) had to use the famous > > any-any patch using this method. > > > > But have you installed with either 2.6.25 or 2.6.26 kernels? > > Hugo > @dam-main:~$ uname -r 2.6.26.cybo.2.0 @dam-main:~$ dpkg -l |grep vmware ii vmware-workstation6.5.0-110069 VMware Workstation ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:10.16.2-1 X.Org X server -- VMware display driver -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 07:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > VMware's vmserver 2 is out. > > Anybody figure out how to use wget to download it? > > Hugo > > On another note, while I am on the subject: They way I install server/workstation is quite different from most ways I see published on the web on this list. I download the .rpm: alien --scripts *.rpm dpkg -i vmserver-blah.rpm In this way your package manager knows it is installed. Newer versions are easy to deal with, just use dpkg -i to install those and your package is updated to the new version. Problems? Just use apt/synaptic/dpkg to uninstall it. I have never (but once during a 25 kernel IIRC) had to use the famous any-any patch using this method. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 10:12 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 07:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> VMware's vmserver 2 is out. > >> > >> Anybody figure out how to use wget to download it? > >> > >> Hugo > >> > >> > > KVM is out: > > > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-kvm/index.html > > > > also worth noting xen running on the same hardware, using defaults > > (chicken install method) writing to local disks is 100s of a second > > faster or the same speed as ESX3.5 running. > > > > http://www.brianmadden.com/blog/GabeKnuth/BriForum-Video---Xen-vs-VMware---Ron-Oglesby > > > > Of course vmserver IS a fine product, just offering alternatives that > > also are fine products and work. > > > > But some things are poorly done, to wit support for 2.6.26 still needing > those hoaky patches. And no way to use wget with downloading a 524MB > server: dedicated to M$ again. > > Hugo I'll bite: what hoaky patches? I just made a kvm, loaded ubuntu from cdrom: ~$ uname -r 2.6.26.cybo.2.0 http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware vmserver 2 is avail
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 07:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > VMware's vmserver 2 is out. > > Anybody figure out how to use wget to download it? > > Hugo > > KVM is out: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-kvm/index.html also worth noting xen running on the same hardware, using defaults (chicken install method) writing to local disks is 100s of a second faster or the same speed as ESX3.5 running. http://www.brianmadden.com/blog/GabeKnuth/BriForum-Video---Xen-vs-VMware---Ron-Oglesby Of course vmserver IS a fine product, just offering alternatives that also are fine products and work. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto post configure a debian installation
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 18:00 +0530, Santanu Chatterjee wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > TTBOMK, there is no such command. :-( There used to be "base-config" in > > the package of the same name, but that package was removed before the > > Etch release, the reason being that the installer handles all this > > stuff. Which means that one has to hand-edit /etc/network/interfaces, > > /etc/apt/sources.list etc. > > Ah! This is what I was talking about. > I was forgetting the name of 'base-config'. Thanks for mentioning... > but now that you mention that it is no longer available, I guess I got > no other choice than to hand configure things :-( > > But if anyone in the list knows any equivalent command available > in testing/Lenny, please let me know. > > Regards, > Santanu Chatterjee > > Well, for apt configuration there is apt-config For the network, there is a tool called network-config that has a cli component. Man network-config. This can allow you to, in one command, set up your ethX with DNS, IP, GW, etc etc. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd question about CUPS
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 19:42 -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > I have a cups server that has been working perfectly for several years. > Recently my Debian and Macbooks (Firefox only) where all upgraded and > now the printer does not work for the macbooks. > > Here's the CUPS error entry: > cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided > > > here's the fun part. > It works perfectly from MS Word on Mac and OpenOffice on Mac. > It doesn't work for FireFox, Thunderbird or Preview (Apple PDF). > > Because of the OpenOffice and Word I was thinking that this is not a > problem with the printer configuration and that it might be a problem > with recent upgrades to FireFox. Except my wife, who did not upgrade > FireFox has the same problem. > > Add to that the fact that the Preview can't print either (not upgraded). > > I'm currenlty, because of the error, of the opinion that my Debian > printer server has taken a turn for the worse. > > I have no authentication that I recall adding. > There is something that might be new - CUPS-Authenticate-Jobs that I'm > not familiar with. > > But if this is server related -- how does OpenOffice and MS Word get > around this? I'm really in a jamb here because I *need* my printer for > college. > SNIP What kernel are you running on the print server? I had this issue in 2.6.24-2.6.26-something. In my case it was a kernel bug in the tcp stack. The work around was to set in /etc/sysctl.conf net.ipv4.tcp_frto = 0 you can test this by echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/frt0 I have no idea if this is the same issue, I am just guessing. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using projector on D630 (debian lenny+xfce)?
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 11:24 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote: > 2008/9/6 Michael Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > When I connected the projector, I pressed Fn+F8 just same as I do on > > Windows, but nothing happened. > > You need to either boot with projector connected, in which case all > screens will on projector and nothing on monitor. Not entirely true. I get confused on versions as I run Sid, hence the "not entirely true": xrandr --auto should find all connected monitors and enable them (in this case the laptop AND the projector). This would work even if you plugged in the monitor/projector after you powered up the lappie and entered X first. Now, I don't know the version of xrandr in Lenny, so perhaps this will not work, but I think it will. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command-line-interface (CLI) calculator to work out the difference between 2 dates
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 11:25 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/24/08 10:54, Edward J. Shornock wrote: > [snip] > > > > While I'm sure someone else will provide a much better way, I've used > > something like > > > > $ echo $(date -d 20080824 +%j) - $(date -d 20080724 +%j) | bc > > 31 > > That a good idea. I never knew date(1) could do that. The problem, > though, is that it doesn't span years. > > $ echo $(date -d 20090824 +%j) - $(date -d 20080724 +%j) | bc > 30 > > Use delta from epoch, instead. > $ echo $[$(date -d 20090824 +%s) - $(date -d 20080724 +%s)]/86400|bc > 396 Why the "/86400"? I follow all of the above but that operation and number. > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure till you know there is no > hook beneath it." -- Thomas Jefferson > > -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia twinview broken
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 14:31 +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > Hi All, > > I need some help. I hope someone can acknowledge the bug that I'm going to > describe and help me root-cause and fix it. > > I have a Dell XPS M1210 notebook which comes bundled with nvidia GeForce Go > 7400 card. > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] > (rev a1) > > > It is around 2 years old laptop, and in the beginning I was able to use this > laptop with TwinView configuration. It worked perfect. > Sometime later during kernel upgrade and nvidia driver upgrades, TwinView > broken. I'm sorry, I can't really recollect when really that happened. > > Single View still works for me. But I badly want to use my External IBM > Monitor at work. > > > Here's my problem description: > > When I start X with the External Monitor connected, the screen goes blank > with no message. There is no X display on the external monitor. But X draws > an Extended Desktop because on the laptop's display, only half of the virtual > desktop is drawn. The External Monitor behaves as if nothing is connected to > it. > > My first suspect was that the VGA port might have gone bad. But I think that > might not be the case. This is how I concluded that: > > (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce Go 7400 (G72) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) > (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 262144 kBytes > (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.21.fd > (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X > (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU > (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce Go 7400 at PCI:1:0:0: > (--) NVIDIA(0): IBM L191p (CRT-0) > (--) NVIDIA(0): AUO (DFP-0) > (--) NVIDIA(0): IBM L191p (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock > (--) NVIDIA(0): AUO (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock > (--) NVIDIA(0): AUO (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link LVDS > (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-0 > (==) NVIDIA(0): > (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select" > (==) NVIDIA(0): will be used as the requested mode. > (==) NVIDIA(0): > (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: > (II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select" > > > If the VGA port was bad, X wouldn't have been able to auto-detect the > External Monitor. My xorg.conf doesn't have any mention of the external > monitor. > > I strongly believe this to be a Kernel or nvidia driver problem. That is > because I have used this configuration (TwinView) before. I believe it is not > a hardware failure. > > Any help is appreciated. > > Ritesh > > >   > > -- > If possible, Please CC me when replying. I'm not subscribed to the list. Look at xrander --auto Man xrander and look at this here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 Let us know what happens if you run xrandr --auto. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagram tool
On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 08:10 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Starting a contract job and I might need to diagram out the network, I > > know of diag, anything else out there? > > If you just need to draw the network, Kivio is good. If you mean > an automated network discovery/mapping tool, I can't help. > > > Cheers, > Kelly Clowers > > I found this easy to use, drew a simple net diagram in just two minutes. I will have to compare this with Dia. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagram tool
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 15:15 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Starting a contract job and I might need to diagram out the network, I > know of diag, anything else out there? > Well, Thanks for the replies. The program I remembered was not diag, but dia. I have looked at the ones listed and they would all do what I needed. Since it has been a few years since I looked for diagram software, I thought I would ask. -- Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Migrate from AMD64 to i386
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 21:28 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/22/08 18:09, Luis San Martin Rojas wrote: > > 2008/8/22 Joris Dobbelsteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Dear all, > >> > >> Is there an easy way to migrate an installation from AMD64 to i386? > >> > > > > AFAIK it is impossible, or at least a _nasty_ mission > > Nasty if you want to do in-place migration. > > But if you have a separate /home partition, and you do a lttle pre- > planning like save the list of installed packages, important config > files, etc, then reinstalling a firewall shouldn't be difficult. > Especially since firewalls are supposed to be minimal beasts. i.e. dpkg --get-selections >package_list tar -czf etc.tar.gz /etc install only a base install of i386 dpkg --set-selections < package_list deslect upgrade tar -xzf etc.tar.gz This is all off the top of my head, use man to get the exact syntax. HTH > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure till you know there is no > hook beneath it." -- Thomas Jefferson > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pendrive not mounted when another usb device is plugged in
On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 22:27 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>> In my /etc/fstab there is the following entry: > >>> > >>> /dev/sda/mnt/sda vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 > >>> > >>> , so I normally mount my usb pendrive simply with: > >>> > >>> $ mount /mnt/sda > >>> > >>> . But, now that I have a usb umts modem (Huawei e169), when it is plugged > >>> in I don't manage to mount the pendrive: the system claims that the medium > >>> is `not found'. Then I have to unplug the modem and plug the pendrive in > >>> again. > > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> [...] in /etc/fstab I'd refer to that drive not as /dev/sda but by it's > >> UUID. > > > > > Rodolfo: > > > All right, I did so and now the mount problem seems to be fixed. But now, > > when I want to unmount it, with: `umount /mnt/sda', the output is: > > `Segmentation fault', and the drive is not unmounted. > > > > How to unmount it now? > > > I have to unmount it as root. In fstab there is now: > > UUID=44F1-7D0C /mnt/sda vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 > > , but as a normal user I can only mount the device, not unmount it: to unmount > it I must be root. Why this? with user in fstab, the user that mounted should be able to umount it, like Ron asked, what is your error? > > Another thing that is not clear to me is the difference between the `user' and > `users' options of `mount' command. This one is simple, user = a user can mount it, the SAME user can umount it. users = a user can mount it, ANY user can umount it. > > But now I understand why the problem occurs trying to mount the drive when the > umts device is already plugged in: for some reason, although the umts device > is mapped into /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/sda comes to be busy. So, if I add in fstab > another line: > > /dev/sdb/mnt/sdb vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 > > , I can mount the pendrive on /mnt/sdb. But now I wish to use the UUID as > normal user. Suggestions welcome. > > Bye > Rodolfo > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pendrive not mounted when another usb device is plugged in
On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 22:27 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>> In my /etc/fstab there is the following entry: > >>> > >>> /dev/sda/mnt/sda vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 > >>> > >>> , so I normally mount my usb pendrive simply with: > >>> > >>> $ mount /mnt/sda > >>> > >>> . But, now that I have a usb umts modem (Huawei e169), when it is plugged > >>> in I don't manage to mount the pendrive: the system claims that the medium > >>> is `not found'. Then I have to unplug the modem and plug the pendrive in > >>> again. > > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> [...] in /etc/fstab I'd refer to that drive not as /dev/sda but by it's > >> UUID. > > > > > Rodolfo: > > > All right, I did so and now the mount problem seems to be fixed. But now, > > when I want to unmount it, with: `umount /mnt/sda', the output is: > > `Segmentation fault', and the drive is not unmounted. > > > > How to unmount it now? > > > I have to unmount it as root. In fstab there is now: > > UUID=44F1-7D0C /mnt/sda vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 > > , but as a normal user I can only mount the device, not unmount it: to unmount > it I must be root. Why this? > > Another thing that is not clear to me is the difference between the `user' and > `users' options of `mount' command. sent this yesterday, but never saw it come through. If you saw this post yesterday, just drop me a line so that I can know to check my filter settings. User means any user can mount the device, but only THAT user can umount it. Users means any user can mount the device, any ANY user can umount that device. > > But now I understand why the problem occurs trying to mount the drive when the > umts device is already plugged in: for some reason, although the umts device > is mapped into /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/sda comes to be busy. So, if I add in fstab > another line: > > /dev/sdb/mnt/sdb vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 > > , I can mount the pendrive on /mnt/sdb. But now I wish to use the UUID as > normal user. Suggestions welcome. > > Bye > Rodolfo > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 01:05 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/07/08 23:42, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:56:19PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 08/07/08 20:20, s. keeling wrote: > >>> Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>>> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>>>> On 08/07/08 17:14, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >>>>>> Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like? > >>>>> It's a GUI app? > >>>> Very funny Ron. Really. > >>> No, I think he was serious, and I agree with him. Do you want > >>> your access to the pkging system to be borked when X is borked? > >>> Especially in this nvidia crazed age? > >> I agree with the point you are trying to make, but best to: > >> s/nvidia/ati > >> > >> More especially: > >> s/nvidia/display manager/ > >> > > > > > > no kidding... have to debug why gdm (work machine, for the general > > user...) locks the machine hard when a user logs out... sheesh. I may > > have to teach people how to login properly. ;-O > > I put this at the bottom of my family members' .bashrc files. Works > like a charm. > > if [ "$TERM" == "linux" ]; then > startx > exit > fi > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA Ron, I like that. Alleviates the need for a login manager at all and if all win users snooping around would not even know what to type at the login: prompt. But does this not kill any vt's for that user? ie, cntrl-alt-F2, login, wham, GUI and not a term. I am sitting here turning over diff. scenarios in my head, how to accomplish them using this login script. That is one of them. I need more time! I don't have enough to play with. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:31 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:00:52PM -0400, "Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > One of my active anti-goals is making aptitude the best package > > > manager after you enter 500 configuration options to enable all the > > > useful features. (hello, mutt) The new code will be the default > > > behavior, with configuration options to selectively re-enable old > > > behavior for people who prefer it. c.f. the change in the behavior > > > of the installation commands several years ago. > > > > > > Daniel > > > > Daniel, > > > > I would suggest you use EMACS as a front end. > > Already been done, and by none less than Junichi Uekawa: > > http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/apt-mode.html > > Sadly, though, there do not appear to be Debian packages of it. > > Daniel Impressive. Currently I am running F9 on this box. (Don't hate me! I am just forcing myself to learn the RHEL way of thought, and I hate every min. of it.) But to be honest, This thread makes me want to re-install Sid on this box (the one I use the most) just so I can poke at aptitude ncurses again. I hope you know that mostly I was poking fun and not serious, except for the part about aptitude (ncurses) not working the way I think, that is serious, but it reflects badly on my short comings, not your code. Thanks for taking the time to write it in the first place and for upgrading it. With you you guys, Vista would feel warm and fuzzy. > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 03:13 +0200, s. keeling wrote: > Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 03:20 퍭㒲䞞阩먭磚, I think he was serious, and I agree > > with him. Do you want > > > your access to the pkging system to be borked when X is borked? > > > Especially in this nvidia crazed age? > > > > I am equally at home using aptitude install, apt-get, apt-cache or > > synaptic. I just don't mind a gui now and again, a picture can be worth > > 1K words, or so I hear. I can actually use vi, irssi, lynx and the lot, > > I just would prefer not to (on a desktop). > > You're exceptional. I worry about worst cases, not guys like you. :-) > > GUIs aren't evil or silly, but they're very often unnecessary. > Slackware still can't be bothered to build a gui installer. Why would > they? That's Zenwalk's job. :-) > > I very much like the Debian gui installer (pat on back Joey & friends, > great job, thank you!). It's an elegant interface, the curses > installer accurately translated to gui. I totally agree with you, on all points. > > > -- > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 > - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 16:23 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 03:11:39AM +0200, "s. keeling" <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > > > I've no trouble with either at the command line. The *curses > > > > interface is highly non-intuitive (IMO). It, along with dselect, has > > > > always struck me as just a little Martian. That's fine in vi or emacs > > > > that you use all the time (so you learn it), but in a pkg mgr? > > > > > > Are there any terminal applications that you think are not Martian? I > > > don't have a good handle on what you mean there. If you just mean that > > > you have to learn the keystrokes ... that's probably not going to > > > change; with the limited screen real estate on a terminal, I can't > > > afford to put in buttons on everything. > > > > > > > So, Daniel, _consider_ (thanks :-) a wholesale interface re-design > > > > (you've free rein), or offer choice of old or new via command line > > > > switch, or something, a la view vs. vi? IFF "--new" is found on CL, > > > > give 'em the new one? What'll the old one say when it sees that? > > > > Hmm. Gotta be a better way. Env. var? > > > > > > One of my active anti-goals is making aptitude the best package > > > manager after you enter 500 configuration options to enable all the > > > useful features. (hello, mutt) The new code will be the default > > > behavior, with configuration options to selectively re-enable old > > > behavior for people who prefer it. c.f. the change in the behavior > > > of the installation commands several years ago. > > > > > > Daniel > > > > Daniel, > > > > I would suggest you use EMACS as a front end. > > oh that's a fabulous idea, but think about it. Something as obscure > and hard to understand as aptitude is screaming to have vi as a > frontend. > > A You had better put on your fire protective suit. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 03:11:39AM +0200, "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > I've no trouble with either at the command line. The *curses > > interface is highly non-intuitive (IMO). It, along with dselect, has > > always struck me as just a little Martian. That's fine in vi or emacs > > that you use all the time (so you learn it), but in a pkg mgr? > > Are there any terminal applications that you think are not Martian? I > don't have a good handle on what you mean there. If you just mean that > you have to learn the keystrokes ... that's probably not going to > change; with the limited screen real estate on a terminal, I can't > afford to put in buttons on everything. > > > So, Daniel, _consider_ (thanks :-) a wholesale interface re-design > > (you've free rein), or offer choice of old or new via command line > > switch, or something, a la view vs. vi? IFF "--new" is found on CL, > > give 'em the new one? What'll the old one say when it sees that? > > Hmm. Gotta be a better way. Env. var? > > One of my active anti-goals is making aptitude the best package > manager after you enter 500 configuration options to enable all the > useful features. (hello, mutt) The new code will be the default > behavior, with configuration options to selectively re-enable old > behavior for people who prefer it. c.f. the change in the behavior > of the installation commands several years ago. > > Daniel Daniel, I would suggest you use EMACS as a front end. Sorry, I could not resist. I know, that would be the opposite of what you suggest you want to do. I am looking forward to test driving this new interface. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:11 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:12:45AM -0500, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > Sadly, I have NEVER used aptitude ncurses. Ever since the early days of > > > Potato, when I tried to use it, I would get completely lost. As smart > > > as I am (however smart that is) that interface just does not work the > > > way my brain works. I still don't know how to use it and get frustrated > > > in 30 seconds trying to use it. Nothing against what I am sure is a > > > nice program, it just does not work the way I think. I feel better by > > > sharing, it has made us all better people (and dang it! People like > > > me!) > > > > > > > Ditto. I'm sure it's a fine program, but I, too, get lost with the > > ncurses interface of aptitude. (I actually found dselect easier to get > > around in. What?!!) > > Believe me, I'm not contemplating a full-on interface redesign for the > idle pleasure of it. :-) > > There are two main things I'm looking at: > > (a) a big fat menu like dselect's that gives you direct access to > the 3-4 functions you normally want to use. > > (b) making the default way of viewing packages be to do a search and > list the results (what's currently called a "limit"). The > current interface for finding packages in aptitude was designed > to let you peruse the full Debian package list. This was a > reasonable idea at the time (I generally did walk through the > whole list on a fresh install in 1999) but is kind of silly now. > The main thing that people seem to use this list for is the > smaller top-level groups (Upgradable / New / etc), and those can > be offered directly from the "front page". > > The GTK+ frontend will probably explore these ideas as well as some > other things that I can't replicate in a terminal (having multiple font > faces is just an amazing thing, let me tell you). Once we finish with > it I'll take a look at how the terminal interface should be updated. > > Daniel I look forward to testing it out! > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 03:20 +0200, s. keeling wrote: > Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 08/07/08 17:14, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > > > > > > Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like? > > > > > > It's a GUI app? > > > > Very funny Ron. Really. > > No, I think he was serious, and I agree with him. Do you want > your access to the pkging system to be borked when X is borked? > Especially in this nvidia crazed age? I am equally at home using aptitude install, apt-get, apt-cache or synaptic. I just don't mind a gui now and again, a picture can be worth 1K words, or so I hear. I can actually use vi, irssi, lynx and the lot, I just would prefer not to (on a desktop). > > > -- > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 > - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 19:37 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like? > > > > Perhaps exactly that. Simplicity sometimes means that advanced features > are not available, or that you have to dig deep to be able to reach them. > > I cannot say if this is the case with Synaptic, though. > > Regarding aptitude, its interface may have the easiest learning curve > there is, but it certainly is very powerful. When I started using it, it > was the only package manager that automatically erased unused packages, > so I forced myself to use it. > > -- > Don't suspect your friends -- turn them in! > -- "Brazil" > > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://move.to/hpkb I think I will once more look it over, if for no other reason then Ron Johnson will not snicker at me. > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/07/08 17:14, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 16:55 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> * Cousin Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Aug 07 16:38 -0500]: > >>> > >>>> Ditto. I'm sure it's a fine program, but I, too, get lost > >>>> with the ncurses interface of aptitude > >>> Add a ditto onto to the ditto regarding my own inability > >>> to cope with the ncurses interface to aptitude > >>> > >>> To me it seems cumbersome and somewhat cryptic > >> And I think Aptitude works very well and couldn't wait to ditch dselect > >> for it. Different strokes and all that. I've had the displeasure of > >> being dumped into Synaptic on Ubuntu and friends. I'll take Aptitude > >> every time, thank you very much. > >> > >> - Nate >> > > > > Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like? > > It's a GUI app? Very funny Ron. Really. > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, > respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each > can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a > good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn > a good scientist into a charlatan." > http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 16:55 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * Cousin Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Aug 07 16:38 -0500]: > > > > > > > Ditto. I'm sure it's a fine program, but I, too, get lost > > > with the ncurses interface of aptitude > > > > Add a ditto onto to the ditto regarding my own inability > > to cope with the ncurses interface to aptitude > > > > To me it seems cumbersome and somewhat cryptic > > And I think Aptitude works very well and couldn't wait to ditch dselect > for it. Different strokes and all that. I've had the displeasure of > being dumped into Synaptic on Ubuntu and friends. I'll take Aptitude > every time, thank you very much. > > - Nate >> Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like? > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 15:06 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 04:55:23PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * Cousin Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Aug 07 16:38 -0500]: > > > > > > > > > > Ditto. I'm sure it's a fine program, but I, too, get lost > > > > with the ncurses interface of aptitude > > > > > > Add a ditto onto to the ditto regarding my own inability > > > to cope with the ncurses interface to aptitude > > > > > > To me it seems cumbersome and somewhat cryptic > > > > And I think Aptitude works very well and couldn't wait to ditch dselect > > for it. Different strokes and all that. I've had the displeasure of > > being dumped into Synaptic on Ubuntu and friends. I'll take Aptitude > > every time, thank you very much. > > took me a long time to grok the aptitude interface, but I hardly > ever use it directly. Now I'm somewhat comfortable with it and it > works for me, but I'm sure that's a case of me training myself to use > it... > > A And to be sure, I did not mean to rag on aptitude, only that I don't work the way it is meant to work. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
diagram tool
Starting a contract job and I might need to diagram out the network, I know of diag, anything else out there? -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 20:01 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:47:21PM +0200, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > Quoting Andrew Sackville-West: > >> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 09:07:27PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > >>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:00:44PM -0700, Paul Scott > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > >>> > aptitude makes it easy to "plan the updates" > >>> > >>> How so? > >> > >> I'll bite on this... the simple but powerful interface allows me to > >> quickly browse through the proposed changes picking and choosing those > >> I want. Clearly it's an inspired piece of software! ;-) > >> > >> /me wipes stuff off nose... > > > > You forgot to recommend that he should read the documentation... > > Heh. :-) > > I actually am curious to hear what people like about the program, > because I'm (slowly) working out ideas for redesigning the interface > and I don't want to accidentally break useful features. Any breakage > should be fully intentional, that's my motto. > > Hence my oh-so-subtle prodding... > > Daniel Sadly, I have NEVER used aptitude ncurses. Ever since the early days of Potato, when I tried to use it, I would get completely lost. As smart as I am (however smart that is) that interface just does not work the way my brain works. I still don't know how to use it and get frustrated in 30 seconds trying to use it. Nothing against what I am sure is a nice program, it just does not work the way I think. I feel better by sharing, it has made us all better people (and dang it! People like me!) > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian Sid first time user
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:32 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> > > Now for particular needs I want to try to use Sid with a > = > >> > > 2.6.25-2-686 kernel. > >> > > > >> > > Please can anybody indicate how to fetch and install a Debian Sid > >> > > distribution and how to manage it after installation (packages and so > >> > > on)? > > > Tuesday 05 August 2008, Javier Barroso wrote : > > >> Rodolfo, Sid hasn't got a installer, you have to install lenny / etch > >> and then upgrade / full-upgrade to sid changing /etc/apt/sources.list > >> as people said. > > > > Thomas Preud'homme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > you can install a Debian with a business card and then you have > > the choice in the release you want to grab (stable, testing or > > unstable). > > > > Thanks. But in Debian internet site I only found stable and testing business > card images, not sid ones. E.g.: > > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso > > . There's nothing like: > > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-sid-i386-businesscard.iso > > . So, after downloading and installing the testing business card iso image, I > suppose I have to do `apt-get update' and `apt-get dist-upgrade' as well, to > pass from testing to sid? > > Besides, I read that a business card image does not include any packages; but > on the other hand I need the ppp package to download the rest: is ppp included > in a business card image? > > Besides: what are, in general with a Debian upgrade, the proper commands? > `apt-get update' and `apt-get dist-upgrade' or instead full-upgrade or > safe-upgrade? > > Excuse so many questions. > > Thanks > Rodolfo Rodolfo, If I recall correctly, you would, after the boot of the cd type linux expert in order to have the choice of installing Sid from the start. However, from time to time, I have had issues with that method. I wrote up a (very poorly written) howto to upgrade to Sid. You can find it here: www.damtek.com on the left side is a link titled Installing Debian. Click on that link, it will tell you how to go from stable to testing. I would not use a testing net-install image as I have also had issues with those in the past. I.e. They break from time to time and you as a newbie installing would not know the difference between an installer break and a machine issue and might well chase your tail for hours trying to "fix" a machine that was not broken. Yes, the net-installer should have PPP software that you need, however, it has been years since I have had to use it so I am unable to advise you there. I would also deviate from my own howto in that I would only install the base system (When you get to the ncurses "select software to install" do NOT select anything (except laptop, if you have a laptop). Deselect desktop and anything else selected (except laptop, if you have a laptop). This will save you HOURS of downloading via a phone line and give you a system that you can then upgrade to Sid. Once you reboot from the install, log in as root and "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit your sources to point them to Sid. Keep in mind, the sources listed in my howto work well for me as a person in the US. All you would need to do is modify yours by replacing stable (or etch) with sid or unstable and commenting out anything about security updates (put a # in front of the line). Once you have upgraded from stable to testing, from testing to sid (and yes, I recommend not jumping from stable to sid directly) or if the testing install works for you, from testing to sid, then you should re-run the "additional software" tool by running as root "tasksel". You would then select things such as "Desktop" to install additional useful components. After that, follow the guide on a perfect desktop listed in my howto. The reason for this deviation is, again, because of your limited bandwidth, no need to download all that stuff, only to have it upgraded and downloaded again and again. I hope this helps. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: trouble HP SmartArray 6400
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:41 -0300, Lucas Mocellin wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having some troubles with the DP SmartArray 6400 controller. > > Before I had a failed drive, so I repalced this drive, and now I'm > getting this error: > > sp02:~# hpacucli > => ctrl slot=4 pd all show > > Smart Array 6400 in Slot 4 > >array A > > physicaldrive 2:0 (port 2:id 0 , Parallel SCSI, 72.8 GB, OK) > physicaldrive 2:1 (port 2:id 1 , Parallel SCSI, 72.8 GB, OK) > physicaldrive 2:2 (port 2:id 2 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, OK) > physicaldrive 2:3 (port 2:id 3 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, OK) > physicaldrive 2:4 (port 2:id 4 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, > Predictive Failure) > physicaldrive 2:5 (port 2:id 5 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, OK) > > A "Predictive Failure", but I don't know what is this. > > I searched at google but without answers.. > > Can somebody help me? > > Thanks in advance, > > Lucas. Lucas, I am CCing you also as this could be very bad for you. I worked on Dell hardware, but I can tell you what a predictive failure is. It is one of two things: 1. The smart hardware on the HD is reporting that the drive failure is eminent. It may last for hours or months, but it is in a state that says it is about to fail. 2. I don't remember what the chipset is for Dell raid controllers is, but I bet it is the same mfg as HP. Sometimes when the meta-data gets corrupted (after a failure and a HD is replaced) the strip is punctured (google punctured strip). If this is the case, no matter what you do PD 4 will never rebuild correctly and it will always report a predictive failure. You did not say if you replaced pd4 or not. If you did, there is a chance that pd4 is just bad. If you did not, there is a greater chance that pd4 is bad. The only things you can do now is replace pd4 and see if it rebuilds correctly. If it does not and still shows a predictive failure there is only one recourse. Backup all the data. Break the raid, rebuild the raid, restore the data. You MIGHT get away with clearing the strip, then rebuilding the strip in the controller and in a perfect world, all the data will be there. Slim chance. If your meta-data is corrupted, you are now gambling with your data. With out respect to pd4 being in a predictive failure state or not, make a complete backup and prepare for complete loss of that raid. A punctured stripe means you have no parity to rebuild from. Or, to put it differently, a bit of data was made into garbage, then copied as part of the parity onto the strip. The corrupted parity strip faithfully rebuild the array, only this time it included that piece of bogus data. Everything will work just fine until the machine tries to access that bit, expecting to find some sort of data it stored there, only to find nonsensical data, then WHAM! Lock up. You can also experience seemingly random HD failures, sometimes multiple hd will get kicked from the array. Needles to say, this plays havoc with data preservation. This could be as simple as replacing pd4 and rebuilding (if it is just a SMART error), or is could be a prelude to complete data lose. You have to ask yourself, "Do you feel lucky, Well, do you?" The above was learned through two years working for Dell at the Gold/Platinum level for server support. Failed HDs comprised about 80% of the job. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Paul's email is garbled for me
Ignore this parent, Please do not respond to this email, it appears I have hijacked this thread. Please excuse this mistake, I am learning how evolution works, and it is not always the way I expect. I am starting a new thread, lets see how that is posted. On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 06:06 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: snip > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Paul's email is garbled for me
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫 Paul, is your client hosed, or mine, or something else? The last two emails you sent only showed what is quoted above. On my screen it looks like asian writting and some block char and has one line. > Paul's messages appear fine here also, but comparing his messages with > those of others using GPG signing (and hence using quoted-printable), > the difference is that there is no 'charset' declared: > > (Paul) > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > (Damon) > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > (Andrew) > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > (Various others) > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > (One other) > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > And so on. > > With no charset value, maybe the strange characters are because of > some > weird default character set on the system used to view the message? > > -- > Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Ok, it appears that others see Paul's email just fine. I am using Evolution as a client and I just reset my locales to enclude en_US ISO-8859-1, en_US.ISO-8859-15 ISO-8859-15, and UTF-8 (UTF-8 was the only one I had selected). Running Sid with Gnome/Evolution. Previously, as of two days ago I was running XFCE4 w/kontact. Due to a massive memory leak (4G of ram and 4G of swap would fill up in about three days) I swithced to gnome. I also purged all KDE packages ( I only used kontact and had KDE for testing reasons). Any ideas on how to pin this down (assuming that selecting the other US_locales did not fix the issue? Paul, would you respond to this thread just so I can test it out now? Thanks, -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫 Paul, is your client hosed, or mine, or something else? The last two emails you sent only showed what is quoted above. On my screen it looks like asian writting and some block char and has one line. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: How to fix resolv.conf?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:42 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: SNIP > > > > Thanks. My `/etc/network/interface' is very poor: > > > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > > . Now, suppose I want the following ppp connection log output: > > local IP address 151.82.24.152 > remote IP address 10.6.6.6 > primary DNS address 193.70.152.25 > secondary DNS address 193.70.192.25 > > . In /etc/resolv.conf I suppose I have to put the lines: > > nameserver 193.70.152.25 > nameserver 193.70.192.25 > > . How do you suggest I should edit /etc/network/interface? > > Thanks > Rodolfo Rodolfo, I do not know what you need for PPP and we will have to wait for someone who knows to respond. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
