Re: Memory allocation failed during fsck of large EXT4 filesystem

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 7/5/21 1:54 PM, Michael Stone wrote:

On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 12:53:39PM +0300, IL Ka wrote:

7TB seems like too much for one partition imho.
Consider splitting it into the parts


That's silly. It's 2021; 7TB isn't particularly large and there's no 
value in breaking things into multiple partitions for no reason.




Maybe to have the ability to restore or reinstall the system without 
bothering /home?

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 6/3/21 11:15 PM, Stella Ashburne wrote:

Hi Thomas

Thank you for your help and time. I really appreciate it.


Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 at 10:23 AM
From: "Thomas D. Dean" 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of 
software/security updates?

I have the same problem.


OK, but do you use Ubuntu or Debian or both?


I saw this in: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038923

sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service


A poster named l0f...@tuta.io replied to me via this mailing list yesterday and 
below is what he wrote (verbatim):

"Cannot remember if you have Gnome installed but you should have a look at 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/594287, especially ALL the associated comments (click on 
"Show 7 more comments")."

When I did a *fresh* minimal install of Debian about two years ago, I didn't 
install the whole Gnome DE. Instead, I installed the following packages: xorg 
gnome-core gnome-tweak-tool synaptic file-roller gedit

A few days ago, after reading replies from some posters, I purged the package 
called unattended-upgrades. I don't know how and when it was installed in the 
first place. You see, about two years I chose the option Expert Install 
(without GUI) and during the installation process, I chose the option to not 
install updates automatically.

After reading what was written in the page 
(https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/594287), I disabled the package called 
PackageKit today. Only time will tell if said step works.

By the way, does Ubuntu use the full or stripped-down version of Gnome Desktop 
Environment?

*fresh* = not upgraded from Debian Stretch



I use Ubuntu.  I removed the ubuntu desktop and installed vanilla gnome. 
Google:

'Converting Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to Vanilla Gnome3'

After I disabled timers, I rebooted.  apt-update && apt-upgrade.  After 
that I had one popup  that said I had upgrades pending.  The apt timer 
was set to expire in 3 hours...

Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of software/security updates?

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 6/3/21 5:15 PM, Stella Ashburne wrote:

Hi Greg


Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 9:55 AM
From: "Greg Wooledge" 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How do I permanently disable unattended downloads of 
software/security updates?


I gave some alternatives that will reveal more information.  Replies to
my reply elaborated further still.


Output of systemctl list-timers | grep apt

Thu  2021-06-03 20:29:30 GMT  9h leftThu 2021-06-03 09:18:00 GMT  1h 17min 
ago apt-daily.timer  apt-daily.service
Fri  2021-06-04 06:51:16 GMT  20h left   Thu 2021-06-03 09:18:00 GMT  1h 17min 
ago apt-daily-upgrade.timer  apt-daily-upgrade.service



I have the same problem.

I saw this in: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038923

sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service

Problem after upgrading from i7-7800x to i7-9800x (LGA 2066)

[Dean Loros]

Greetings.
I have just run into an interesting problem after upgrading from an
i7-7800x to an i7-9800x. With the current 5.7 kernel & the 5.6.2 (current
Sid), the system will not fully load GDM (no mouse or keyboard).
Furthermore, the time at the GDM login screen is not displayed correctly. I
run 2 Sid installs, 1 a week back in updates from the "Main" system. I
booted into my backup install & found after a bit of experimenting that
kernels before 5.6.2 will boot correctly--only the 2 newest kernels are
affected, 5.6.1 & the older 4.19 series work just fine.

I am wondering what has changed in 5.6.2 to cause this response. I can
provide any logs/info needed to track this down--I was going to file a
bugreport, but didn't know to assign this to the newer kernel series or to
GDM.

Please contact me about the information needed.

Thank You.

-- 
Cheers!!!
Dean Loros
Performance by Design Ltd.
autocrosser at http://forums.linuxmint.com
debianmainuser at http://forums.debian.net

Re: hp 3762

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 10/12/19 8:34 AM, steef wrote:

Hi folks,

my pixma 280 canonprinter gave it up after years, so I need another.

Is HPDeskjet 3762 a good (simple) replacement? Is somebody out there who 
has some experience with HP-printers??


Thank you and a good day to you all,

Steef

groningen, holland

ps i am using buster 10.1




Check Cups.  I have an HP Officejet Pro 8620 that works fine with Cups.

Tom Dean

Re: update and upgrade file size problems

[Ryan Dean]

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 8:57 PM The Wanderer  wrote:

> On 2019-09-14 at 13:26, Ryan Dean wrote:
>
> > I have problems with update and upgrade with several packages since
> > buster 10.1 new release on September 7th. Even with apt-get upgrade
> > --fix-missing, still does not work It always says File has unexpected
> > size (3108672 != 3134284). Below is the logs, any ideas how to solve
> > it?
>
> For what it's worth, that .deb file exists in my system's APT package
> cache with size 3108672, and I've never seen this error.
>
> Does that file exist in the cache on your system? If so, what size is it?
>
> You can check with:
>
> ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/gdb_8.2.1-2+b1_amd64.deb
>
> If it doesn't exist, my initial guess is that the APT archive mirror
> which deb.debian.org is currently pointing you at has a corrupt copy of
> that file. You could try using a different mirror in your sources.list;
> mine is configured with ftp.us.debian.org,


Can you write the exact url of the mirror in the source list, eg deb
ftp.us.debian.org or deb-src https://ftp.us.debian.org buster main
contribute non-free etc so that I can copy and paste to my source file?

With only ftp.us.debian.org, it seems the source list and apt gives me
error.

The problems with debian is that if there is one letter missing in the url
source list, the source list and apt will not work at all and debian does
not put the precise url on its website for me to  copy and paste.

Thanks.



> and as I said, I didn't have
> this problem.
>
> --
>The Wanderer
>
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
>
>

update and upgrade file size problems

[Ryan Dean]

I have problems with update and upgrade with several packages since buster
10.1 new release on September 7th. Even with apt-get upgrade --fix-missing,
still does not work It always says File has unexpected size (3108672 !=
3134284). Below is the logs, any ideas how to solve it?

The following packages will be upgraded:
  gdb
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3,134 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,024 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 gdb amd64 8.2.1-2+b1
[3,134 kB]
Err:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 gdb amd64 8.2.1-2+b1
  File has unexpected size (3108672 != 3134284). Mirror sync in progress?
[IP: 151.101.244.204 80]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:8085c893f3b15a7802a47afb3f9cf819c223624d2bac894a8be5884eb8771ac1
   - MD5Sum:27ac5ace5fed107805cd914bec5a8cd8 [weak]
   - Filesize:3134284 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch
http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gdb/gdb_8.2.1-2+b1_amd64.deb  File
has unexpected size (3108672 != 3134284). Mirror sync in progress? [IP:
151.101.244.204 80]
   Hashes of expected file:
-
SHA256:8085c893f3b15a7802a47afb3f9cf819c223624d2bac894a8be5884eb8771ac1
- MD5Sum:27ac5ace5fed107805cd914bec5a8cd8 [weak]
- Filesize:3134284 [weak]

Re: Suspicious post [was: Problème d'installation]

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 9/3/19 1:55 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 09:18:43AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 11:50:12PM +0200, Siard wrote:

[...]


Suspicious post, nevertheless.  Strange e-mail address, strange name,
and... the .tar.xz file appears to contain an executable??


Yikes. You're right:

   cv2019s: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV) [...]

So kids, don't double-click on that (unless your architecture is
different from x86-64 and you haven't installed binfmt-support,
that is ;-)

I haven't put much time into it, but running "strings" on it suggests
that it's trying to do strange stuff:


This picked my interest, so I ran a decompiler on a thing.
Seems harmless enough - it downloads Debian libc.deb, prints OK and
tries to install it via dpkg.

Reco



Where does it download libc from?  You said Debian, but, does that mean 
from an official site?


Tom Dean

Re: Debian Programming languages

[Ryan Dean]

This is such an amazing topic which language is most widely used and which
most useful. Many CS people only want to focus, do not want waste time in
learning milllions of different languages, which will cause language
barriers. We have limited amount of time and millions of other things in
real life in addition to programming

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 6:25 PM Paul Sutton  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Just to say thank for the information.  I have made a short blog post on
> some of the languages mentioned and put links to what I would hope are
> useful related resources.
>
> http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started-3/
>
> I am trying to write this so I can hopefully encourage those who are
> learning to write code to get involved with Debian so their skills can
> be improved through helping,  I have learnt a heck of a lot just by
> being here doing what I have done so far.
>
> I will probably add to this further but it's up.
>
> Hopefully all this is helpful.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 24/05/2019 16:08, Paul Sutton wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > As I am trying to promote contributing to Debian,  what programming
> > languages are mostly used?  I am asking as it helps to give people an
> > idea of what they need to learn or will learn as part of helping.
> >
> > I am guessing as the default command line interface is bash, then bash
> > and bash scripting would be useful to learn but on top of that what
> > would people suggest I try and promote.
> >
> > Not just on the coding side of things as we have markdown / html / css
> > perhaps LaTeX for documentation.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Paul
> >
> --
> Paul Sutton
> http://www.zleap.net
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/zleap/
> gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893  1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D
>
>

Re: Debian 8 install via pxe-boot

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:11 AM Latif Shaikh 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have proper steps/documents/links for install Debian 8.7
> Jessie via pxe-server?
>
> I have tried this link but not luck.
> https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall
>
> Please help for same.
>

Not a specific answer to your question but I've had great success with
netboot.
https://netboot.xyz/

Forest

Re: LVM setup with snapshots

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I really didn't prepare for lvm. I never used lvm before this so had no
idea of lvm before.

Snapshots sound like an awesome idea.

I would like to do a configured base install, create a snapshot, and modify
(fork), the base for different things.

With 20/20 hindsight. The default doesn't seem to have room. What are
different solutions other debian/lvm users have used?

Thanks
Forest





On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Forest Dean Feighner <
forest.feigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Greg Wooledge <wool...@eeg.ccf.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 09:20:32AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> > > To me, it seems me the partition is too large to to reduce for
>> snapshots.
>> >
>> > What do you mean ?
>> > Did you allocate all the available space in the volume group to the
>> logical
>> > volumes ? Creating snapshots requires space.
>>
>> Yeah, if you let the installer do LVM partitioning "for" you, it
>> notoriously uses up all the extents, leaving you nothing to work with,
>> totally defeating the purpose of LVM.
>>
>> If you do an LVM install with Debian, you have to do manual partitioning.
>> Or at least, you really *really* want to.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, this was my first lvm install using the defaults which did not leave
> enough room for snapshots.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: LVM setup with snapshots

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 09:20:32AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > To me, it seems me the partition is too large to to reduce for
> snapshots.
> >
> > What do you mean ?
> > Did you allocate all the available space in the volume group to the
> logical
> > volumes ? Creating snapshots requires space.
>
> Yeah, if you let the installer do LVM partitioning "for" you, it
> notoriously uses up all the extents, leaving you nothing to work with,
> totally defeating the purpose of LVM.
>
> If you do an LVM install with Debian, you have to do manual partitioning.
> Or at least, you really *really* want to.
>
>

Yes, this was my first lvm install using the defaults which did not leave
enough room for snapshots.

LVM setup with snapshots

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I'm completely new to lvm.

lvs
LV VG   Attr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log
Cpy%Sync Convert
root   build-vg -wi-ao 463.52g
swap_1 build-vg -wi-ao   2.00g


I used the default stretch of an lvm partition with the gnome.


To me, it seems me the partition is too large to to reduce for snapshots.

I'm prolly not 'getting' lvm yet.

What would be a good layout for a stretch install doing lvm snapshots?

Thanks
Forest

"I've bin kinda lazy lately'

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:51 PM, John  wrote:

> I have been a user of debian for many years on a number of computers
> as well as other GNU/Linux systems.  Recently I discovered that my
> i686 32bit machine was out of support and they were not supporting
> 32bit machines any longer.  After some bad experiences with Tumbleweed I
> decided that I would install stretch so I could get experience of it
> when I am forced to upgrade my firewall (running jessie with a whezzy
> kernel).
>
> So today I d/loaded the net-install iso for debian 9.4 and wrote it to
> a usb stick. Then tried to install on the target (Thinkpad x40).
> Nice idea but it refused to use the wifi, so I proceeded via wired
> ethernet hoping I could resolve the issue later.  In the process I
> think I determined the wifi problem was the need for firmware for the
> Intel ipw2200 hardware.
>
> After rather a long time it said it was installed so I rebooted -- a
> big mistake!  I was hoping for a computer where I could write
> programs, mainly with xterm, emacs (with elisp) and C.  I had asked
> for no gnome no kde no xfce...  I usually run fvwm on X but I got a
> screen with nothing obvious to do.  I did get icons (spit!) offering
> games and firefox but no xterm -- I was expecting to install emacs
> myself as I use a very recent system -- but it was in effect not a
> computer but some kind of toy. I do not play computer games and
> thought I had said not to install any
>
> Since then I have failed to get wifi although I have got the firmware
> -- but no instructions on how to install.  Got aptitude installed and
> discovered load of gnome stuff cluttering up the disk (which is
> limited) and memory (ditto).
>
> How do I get a working computer?  I can ssh in from elsewhere but that
> is not what I need.  And I need wifi.
>
> I have never had this problem in 35 years on unix and linux, and am
> very disappointed.  I suppose I can install things like csh and
> possibly xdm, exim from source etc but without an xterm.
>
> I also noticed eventually that the duff screen came from tty2 rather
> that tty7 that I was expecting.
>
> Sorry for the rant but I really was expecting simplicity as before.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
>
Since you have proprietary driver I believe you need to use the non-free
installer.

Try: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi since you already have the firmware.

Also, since, forever, desktop environments tend to install a lot of stuff.

HTH
Forest

Re: DEBOOTSTRAP or GRML-DEBOOTSTRAP more suitable?

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Could you skip all that and use something like busybox or buildroot?


On Sun, Apr 15, 2018, 3:20 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 04/15/2018 12:43 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 15 Apr 2018 at 08:55:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >> I wish to do an _*EXTREMELY*_ minimalist install of Debian to a USB
> flash
> >> drive (aka /dev/sdb1) assuming use as a MBR device.
> >>
> >> I currently use the i386 flavor of Stretch.
> >> My hardware allows choosing to boot from a flash drive.
> >>
> >> I suspect that if using deboostrap the closest I can come is using
> >> "--variant=minbase" which apparently installs apt. My definition of
> >> "minimalist" would prefer not to.
> >
> > I decided to answer this post without equating "idiosyncratic" with
> > "bonkers".
>
> ROFL <*GRIN*>
> "bonkers" implies "not of sound mind.
> "idiosyncratic" explicitly states my assumption that no-one else may
> have _exactly_ my goals
>
> >
> > apt is Priority: important. Try removing it from any Debian system.
> > For installing, your definition of "minimalist" is of no importance
> > or consequence.
>
> To you, likely .
> BTW, you just reminded me that apt has a "purge" command.
> If  DEBOOTSTRAP / GRML-DEBOOTSTRAP installs "cruft", that could be useful.
> Might even attempt using apt to remove itself ;/
>
> Suggested reading:
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en supports
> my contention that only "Priority: Required" packages are absolutely
> necessary.
>
> It states (in part):
> > Systems with only the Required packages are probably unusable, but they
> > do have enough functionality to allow the sysadmin to boot
> > and install more software.
>
> 
>
>
> >
> >> For my definitely idiosyncratic purposes *absolutely NOTHING* but grub
> >> related tools will _ever_ be run from this device.
> >>
> >> What are the trade-offs of choosing between debootstrap and
> grml-debootstap?
> >> I understand that either way I have some reading to do ;/
> >
> > Does this relate to your suspicions? Or, is it an unrelated question?
> >
>
> It *IS* the question.
> Is there a difference in capability between DEBOOTSTRAP and
> GRML-DEBOOTSTRAP?
> Or is it *ONLY* a difference of perceived convenience which will differ
> between individuals and/or projects?
>
>
>
>

Re: can't access debian no more

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:21 AM, mess-mate  wrote:

> Hi,
> after an install of windows 10 (need it some a progran can't run on linux),
> somewhat seems to be changed on the hd.
> The startup lock on the disk control/fs.
> regards
>
>
Not much to go on but maybe reinstall grub from the installation CD? Boot
flag for debian partition?

I really don't know what things a Windows 10 install would do.

HTH

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

[Forest Dean Feighner]

gmail...

I have little to add.



On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:59 PM, deloptes <delop...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forest Dean Feighner wrote:
>
> > Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote
> > the sendmail config file, lol.
> >
> > Shell account, of course, at the local ISP.
>
> and that's why you first topposted and secondly contributed with very
> meaningful content. :D
>
>

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote
the sendmail config file, lol.

Shell account, of course, at the local ISP.


On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Forest Dean Feighner <
forest.feigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote
> the sendmail config file, lol.
>
> Shell account, of course, at the local ISP.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Ben Finney <bign...@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> > I don't understand why a home user would not be using a smarthost.
>> > Perhaps we're talking about a different group of people. Why would a
>> > home user want to relay mail rather than submit it to a smarthost?
>>
>> First, note that even if you don't know the reason why someone would
>> want to run their own mail server on their own connection, that is no
>> argument to arbitrarily deny them the ability to do it.
>>
>> So, while you're well within your rights to be curious about why, the
>> question doesn't demand an answer. Whoever wants to run a mail server on
>> their home connection should by default have the right to do so, for any
>> reason or no reason, and doesn't need to explain why to anyone.
>>
>>
>> As it happens, there are excellent reasons to want to do this. They are
>> no less strong now than when doing this was much more common in the
>> 1990s and earlier: in order to retain decentralised control, distributed
>> throughout the community, of a decentralised and federated communication
>> system.
>>
>> The news for the past decade (and more) has given frequent reminder of
>> why it's important to wrest control of our communications out of the
>> hugh, centralised choke-points that currently reign. That by itself is
>> reason enough to support and encourage more people running mail servers
>> independent of those entities.
>>
>> The person in question may have additioonal reasons, or separate
>> reasons. The point is that email is *designed* and *works best* as a
>> decentralised, federated system. We should be asking not “why would
>> anyone do this?”, but rather “why have we gone so far in relinquishing
>> the ability to do this?”.
>>
>> And then take active steps to move more toward federated, decentralised
>> communication again.
>>
>> --
>>  \“With Lisp or Forth, a master programmer has unlimited power |
>>   `\ and expressiveness. With Python, even a regular guy can reach |
>> _o__)   for the stars.” —Raymond Hettinger |
>> Ben Finney
>>
>>
>

Re: Debian on flash a store.

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I've found debian to be quit handy on flash store.


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:35 PM, David Christensen <
dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

> On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote:
>
>> Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash
>> drives that _are_ built for full-time use, as a system disk?
>>
>> I've got some old thin clients that could do with storage upgrades that
>> are a bit easier to come by than the weird (PATA?) flash modules they
>> come with. Obviously I could just hook up an external USB ssd, but I'd
>> like to keep the small form factor if I can - then they can go inside
>> the case.
>>
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=disk+on+module=ffsb=web
>
>
> http://www.memorydepot.com/ssd_diskonmodule.html
>
>
> David
>
>

Re: update bios from debian

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Mar 8, 2018 12:22 AM, "Don Armstrong"  wrote:

Just:

sudo apt install grub-imageboot;
sudo cp 7wuj43uc.iso /boot/images;
sudo update-grub2;

then reboot, and select the right cd image in your grub menu.


Going OT a little but is that all you have to do to add ISOs to grub!?




--
Don Armstrong  https://www.donarmstrong.com

Live and learn
or die and teach by example
 -- a softer world #625
http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=625

Re: An answer - was [Re: Does bash have a tool ?]

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I found this to be a good command line text editing reference:

https://github.com/learnbyexample/Command-line-text-processing



On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 03/04/2018 09:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> My eventual goal is to create a personalized FAQ.
>> To that end I've collected all my outgoing mail which DOES NOT have "Re:"
>> in the Subject into a single file {used standard SeaMonkey tools}.
>>
>> Using a text editor's search function I've placed "KEY1" at the
>> beginning of the body of each message. Similarly, I've placed "KEY2" at the
>> end of each body.
>>
>> Searches led to  which
>> describes tools to do word frequency tasks, primarily with bash builtins.
>>
>> First I need to eliminate the irrelevant text between "KEY2" of the
>> previous message and "KEY1" of the message of interest. It should be
>> straight forard to do in BASIC.
>>
>> But is there an already tested function for that?
>> TIA
>>
>
> I've received several suggestions.
> It appears that "vim" is closest to my "mind set".
> I went to the homepage and found ~half-dozen links.
> I found >dozen links to problems I hadn't mentioned.
>
> *FOR THE RECORD*
> Although EVERYTHING could solve stated problem, the vim homepage suggested
> solutions to problems I had not specified.
> I don't know ho they would take it, BUT the think like me.
>
> I've got up to a week's homework ...
>
> THANK YOU
>
>
>
>

Re: Debian New Guy

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I'm new to systemd/systemctl as well.

I had a long delay with NetworkManager-wait-online.service and the delay
referred me to systemctl

systemctl feels more like working with a database. Interesting system to
get acquainted with.



On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM, john doe  wrote:

> On 2/17/2018 1:53 PM, Jeffrin Jose wrote:
>
>> are you looking for path of a command ?  "whereis  systemctl"may be
>> "systemd" is starting point for all scripts during startupcheck "cd
>> /etc/init.d/"  which is atleast one place for startup scripts
>>
>>
> For service files:
>
> /lib/systemd/system
>
> --
> John Doe
>
>

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Would there be a text based editor for svg?


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:46 PM, David Wright 
wrote:

> On Wed 14 Feb 2018 at 14:40:09 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 02/14/2018 01:56 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> > >On 02/14/18 10:57, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >>I use Stretch with MATE as desktop.
> > >>My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 .
> > >>I have multiple configurations of some programs installed.
> > >>
> > >>I would like to use icons that are semantically related.
> > >>I would like to use custom icons that are 48 high X 96 wide.
> > >>These would be created joining two 48x48 icons side by side.
> > >>
> > >>Would the MATE panel &/or desktop accept these?
> > >>Assuming it would, is there a simple graphic program that would
> > >>accept to identically formatted images and place them side by
> > >>side in a new image?
> > >>If MATE cannot accept rectangular rather than square icons, I
> > >>suspect I can create an app that can (I think I've seen Tcl/Tk
> > >>that could be adapted).
> > >
> > >I don't know what icons MATE will accept.
> > >
> > >
> > >As for making icons, the defacto OSS graphics editor is GIMP:
> > >
> > >https://www.gimp.org/
> > >
> > >
> > >Or, if you want a CLI app and/ or a library that you can call from
> > >your favorite programming/ scripting language to exactly what you
> > >want:
> > >
> > >https://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for trying. I had already downloaded both.
>
> Good, you're almost there.
>
> > The are *TOO* powerful to be useful.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> > Using text processing as an analogy, I wish to concatenate two 10
> > character strings to obtain a single 20 character string.
>
> There's no comparison unless the images are just raw scans.
> Even then, concatenation will only succeed if the scans have the
> appropriate orientation.
>
> > LaTeX could likely do that. But it's not appropriate.
>
> Bad choice, LaTeX. Emacs would be a better analogy.
>
> Anyway, what you want is
> convert thing1 thing2 +append output-thing
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

Re: What is available for setting services to run levels

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Perhaps, from man systemctl


   isolate NAME
   Start the unit specified on the command line and its
dependencies and stop all others. If a unit name
   with no extension is given, an extension of ".target" will be
assumed.

   This is similar to changing the runlevel in a traditional init
system. The isolate command will
   immediately stop processes that are not enabled in the new unit,
possibly including the graphical
   environment or terminal you are currently using.

   Note that this is allowed only on units where AllowIsolate= is
enabled. See systemd.unit(5) for details.

I haven't tinkered with it yet

HTH

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> What tools do we have for setting services to run levels
>
>

Re: New Kernel fails to boot when laptop is plugged in

[Forest Dean Feighner]

You might try some kernel parameters.

"ignore_loglevel[KNL]
Ignore loglevel setting - this will print /all/
kernel messages to the console. Useful for debugging.
We also add it as printk module parameter, so users
could change it dynamically, usually by
/sys/module/printk/parameters/ignore_loglevel.
"
Quite a few could be helpful in finding the error:

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html

hth
Forest


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Henning Follmann 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I have a strange issue with the newest kernel
> 4.9.0-5-amd64 on this 2011 Macbook Pro.
> As far as I can see it has to do with the power management of this laptop.
> Whenever the laptop is on power supply the boot process stops hard after
> I enter the passphrase for the encrypted lvm. There is one last message
> that it tries to mount root but it stops hard there. There is also no log
> (of course not because there is no device to write to yet).
> when I unplug the laptop during boot it boots fine.
> Previous kernel do not show this behavior.
>
> -H
>
> --
> Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com
>
>

Re: apt-get update error

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Ah, so the error is from using Synaptic rather than from the update of
libtasn1-6?

That's the only recent update I've done and I didn't realize Syaptic would
write the file.

Thanks Greg


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Greg Wooledge <wool...@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Forest Dean Feighner wrote:
> > W:
> > http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/
> updates/InRelease:
> > The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
> > not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
>
> > -rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg
>
> Synaptic strikes again. :(
>
>

apt-get update error

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Greetings All,

After updating libtasn1-6 last night I've started getting and an apt-get
update error.

W:
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/updates/InRelease:
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-updates/InRelease: The
key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not
readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/Release.gpg: The key(s) in
the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not readable by
user '_apt' executing apt-key.

I've read elsewhere that this file is not used for the debian repositories
and is safely removed. Is that correct?

The file in question is dated the 6th of February.
-rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg


Any feedback or advice appreciated.

Thanks
Forest

Package for Kernel Bug?

[Mason Dean Kukosky]

I'm trying to send a bug report with reportbug, and It's asking for the package 
name. What do I put under package name if it's a bug with the Linux kernel?

Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

Re: Re: Wifi Drivers still not recognized by Debian, even when using Netinst

[Dean]

Thank you for your guys' help. I assumed that meant I had to download 
and install the packages manually after installing through the live CD 
and went that route.


While trying to install Debian again, I have run into another possibly 
unrelated problem. After going through most of the install procedure, I 
get an error message while trying to install the boot loader:


"Executing grub-install failed"
"This is a fatal error"

Where can I access error logs that tell me what actually happened, 
because this is really vague and I don't know what I'm supposed to do 
with this. The drive was wiped during the partitioning process and I 
have no operating systems on the laptop (although I have tried to 
install Debian multiple times at this point).

Wifi Drivers still not recognized by Debian, even when using Netinst

[Dean Valentine]

Hi, I was having trouble contacting the mailing list on my other thread, so
I just started a new one.

I have attempted to use both the live-iso and netinst iso with bundled
non-free drivers, but Debian still can't detect/load my wifi. To rehash,

1. I use an Acer Aspire S laptop.
2. The error looks like this:
https://puu.sh/uQsLL/2661cdaa7c.jpg
3. My lspci output looks like this:
https://puu.sh/uQsUJ/ff0045aa59.jpg
4. Here's dmesg grepped for "driver" and "ath":
https://puu.sh/uQt0l/a321614cd6.jpg

I don't know what to do. Other operating systems manage to find and use my
wifi, but Debian is different, even using its proprietary-firmware-bundled
ISO.

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

[Dean Valentine]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 08:43 Pete Orrall <p...@cs1x.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Dean Valentine
> <deanvalent...@lhsla.org> wrote:
> > I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the
> > internet with it (because my wifi is down) so i don't understand how I
> would
> > install the non-free package?
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> You'll have to install Debian from one of the non-free images first.
> That should have your desired firmware.  Another user posted the
> non-free page earlier, but in case you didn't see it here it is below:
>
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
>
> Good luck.
>
> --
> Pete Orrall
> p...@cs1x.com
> www.peteorrall.com
> "If there isn't a way, I'll make one."
>
I installed the netinst non-free ISO to a boot drive and I still got the
"no ethernet card was detected" message. Does that mean the wifi on this
computer isn't supported?

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

[Dean Valentine]

I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the
internet with it (because my wifi is down) so i don't understand how I
would install the non-free package?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:01 AM, Tim Ye <tim@aliyun.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2017-03-15 07:57+0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> > On 15 March 2017 at 06:57, Dean Valentine <deanvalent...@lhsla.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint,
> > > Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems detecting and
> using
> > > my "Network Manager: Qualcomm Atheros 003e", and it shows up on lspci,
> but
> > > when the Debian graphic installer attempts to do this, it fails and
> tells
> > > me "No Ethernet Card" detected. I've attempted to use the ISO you've
> > > provided for me with propryetary firmware bundled into it here:
> > > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.1/amd64/iso-cd/, but that
> > > couldn't find it either. It's unusual because I see (or at least I
> think I
> > > see) my drivers listed, and when i select them manually
> > >
> > > What's going on? How do I get this to work? Obviously there are linux
> > > drivers out there for Debian to use with my machine, they're just not
> in
> > > Debian's isos for some reason.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time. I love your work.
> > >
> >
> > There is a package "firmware-atheros" .
>
> You may want to add 'non-free' in your 'source.list' file.  My
> '/etc/apt/sources.list' looks like this:
>
> deb http://mirrors.163.com/debian/ jessie main non-free
> deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/debian/ jessie main non-free
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main non-free
>
> # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> deb http://mirrors.163.com/debian/ jessie-updates main non-free
> deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/debian/ jessie-updates main non-free
>
> Reference:
>
> http://serverfault.com/questions/240920/how-do-i-
> enable-non-free-packages-on-debian
>
> >
> > If I were you i would install it.  Maybe that will solve your problem.
> >
> > Regards
> > Johann
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
> > my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Tim
>

Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

[Dean Valentine]

I have installed three operating systems on this computer: Linux Mint,
Ubuntu, and Arch Linux. None of them had any problems detecting and using
my "Network Manager: Qualcomm Atheros 003e", and it shows up on lspci, but
when the Debian graphic installer attempts to do this, it fails and tells
me "No Ethernet Card" detected. I've attempted to use the ISO you've
provided for me with propryetary firmware bundled into it here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.1/amd64/iso-cd/, but that couldn't
find it either. It's unusual because I see (or at least I think I see) my
drivers listed, and when i select them manually

What's going on? How do I get this to work? Obviously there are linux
drivers out there for Debian to use with my machine, they're just not in
Debian's isos for some reason.

Thank you for your time. I love your work.

Re: wheezy, message log being spammed by segfaults from apt_check.py

[dean]

On 01/15/16 12:37, Gene Heskett wrote:

>> For what its worth, as root, an apt-get update, followed by an
>> apt-get upgrade reports 0 package to upgrade.
>>
>> The answer may be in the above sentence. What does apt-get update,
>> followed by apt-get dist-upgrade show? upgrade on its own does not
>> upgrade all packages. It skips kernel and some other stuff. Perhaps
>> that accounts for the differences?
> 
> Will that not update me to Jessie?  I'd rather not take that step until a 
> fresh spin is available from linuxcnc.org, not too long after 16.04 LTS 
> is out.

Depends what's listed in your sources.list  - wheezy or jessie?

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

[dean]

On 10/17/15 07:49, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the
> technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd.  I am
> interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in
> features.
> 
> I spend much time on the highway, and Internet access (to view a map, to
> search for a telephone number, and even now and then GoogleEarth) would be
> valuable.
> 
> So I need to see what is available by way of a smartphone, or perhaps a
> tablet computer.  Is there anything small which can run Debian?
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
What kind of smart phone?

If its android there are apps that can run debian in a chroot eg lildebi
and if you want the most from your phone I recommend installing
cyanogenmod - that gives you a lot more control over your phone.

If your talking about apple, your options are very limited...

Dean

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

[Marcus Dean Adams]

To whom it may concern:

Has there been any movement on this "mobile Debian" movement?  Tried
Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 7 at one point, and although it had a decent UI,
it was poorly fleshed out.  Would love to have a regular copy of Debian
that is touch friendly to install on mobile devices so I can run my
normal desktop applications, install .deb files, run my own python
scripts, etc. on a tablet or phone instead of having to track down
alternatives for a separate mobile OS.

-- 
~~~~
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"Civilization is the limitless multiplication of
unnecessary necessities."
-- Mark Twain




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Re: Doing Dist-Upgrade or Such

[dean]

On 07/09/15 17:42, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> David Baron a écrit :
>>> David Baron a écrit :
 Problem is that with that darned partitioning by the Debian installation,
 there is not enough room on /var to accomplish upgrade of such size.
>>>
>>> Too bad you did trust the Debian installer instead of using LVM and
>>> leaving some space available for future needs. Worth thinking about for
>>> your next installation.
>>>
>> What was presented for LVM did not look any better.
> 
> Because you selected LVM in the assisted mode, which messes up sizes and
> does not leave any free extents for future growth. You can still reduce
> an oversized LV to free some extents but if the filesystem is ext2/3/4
> it cannot be reduced online so it must be unmounted first. Depending on
> the mount point, it may require to switch to single user mode or boot
> from a maintenance system.

Resize2fs is quite good at online resizing, not sure i'd do it on / but
i have lvresize and resize2fs /home and others many times without issue.

> Knowing this, I always select the manual mode to set up LVM and leave
> free space in the VG. It's worth the extra work. When I later find out
> that /var (or whatever) has become too small, I just use free extents in
> the VG to grow the related LV and filesystem. Online. No reboot, no
> maintenance system, no partition resizing or moving needed.

This is why I now always use LVM, online resizing and much safer than
resizing partitions.

Collaboration with your site

[Robbert Dean]

Dear owner of http://debian.gr,

My name is Robbert Dean.

I am currently provid services to various well known companies in 
various fields as hosting , anti-virus, dating, site building, credit check 
and even gaming.

I would like to check with you the option of promoting my client on 
your site with an interesting article / post or a news item

that we of course prefer , will be written by you to keep it as 
natural as possible and fit your site and ,of course, your readers that you 
know the best.

If that sound like something that may interest you , please get back 
to me so we can close a deal.

Best Regards,

Robbert Dean,
Advertising Consultant
Business Development Department

Collaboration with your site

[Robbert Dean]

Dear owner of http://debian.com,

My name is Robbert Dean.

I am currently provid services to various well known companies in 
various fields as hosting , anti-virus, dating, site building, credit check 
and even gaming.

I would like to check with you the option of promoting my client on 
your site with an interesting article / post or a news item

that we of course prefer , will be written by you to keep it as 
natural as possible and fit your site and ,of course, your readers that you 
know the best.

If that sound like something that may interest you , please get back 
to me so we can close a deal.

Best Regards,

Robbert Dean,
Advertising Consultant
Business Development Department

Possible dependency issue

[dean]

Hi Everyone,

I believe i may have stumbled upon a dependency issue. I'm looking for
advice as to whether my guesses are correct and whether I should submit
a bug report.
colord was outputting hundreds of lines of errors to syslog like this:
https://paste.debian.net/291215/
All the files colord is searching for exist.

I eventually installed package snmp and which has stopped the errors.
A search found: colord depends libsane depends libsnmp30

My question is should snmp be depended on their somewhere?
or should these errors just be suppressed?

Running debian testing fully updated
colord v 1.2.1-1+b2

Thanks Dean


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Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 06/27/14 22:11, Kitty Cat wrote:

Yes. I have previously searched and found such things like this:


Bios may access the keyboard without turning on any leds.

Look at

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000192.htm

Turn on power to the computer.  As soon as you do this, start pressing 
the F1 key, like tap-tap-tap... and continue until you see something on 
the monitor.


If you get to windows, shut down and try again with the F2 key.

One of the keys in the  sequence should do it.

Tom Dean


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Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

[Thomas D. Dean]

When you try to access BIOS from thekeyboard, make sure the keyboard is 
connected directly to the computer, not through a hub.


Tom Dean


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Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads

[Thomas D. Dean]

There is sometimes a very short window to access the BIOS.

On my (different) system, as soon as I power up, I start tapping the F2 
key, about 2 times per second.  After several seconds, I get into BIOS.


There may be some exact moment to press F2 one time, but, I have not 
found it.


I can not hold the F2 down because BIOS will determine there is a 
keyboard problem, I think.  I have not done that recently.


Maybe you need to clear the BIOS settings?  I have never had to do that.

Tom Dean


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Re: USB 3.0 support

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 06/27/14 14:47, Gary Dale wrote:

This may not be revelant, but,

I had a problem with USB 3.0 devices under Ubuntu.  I traced that to a 
linux USB bug.


I think I still see artifacts of USB problems in both Ubuntu and Debian.

[Bug 1151622] Re: 050d:0237 [ASUS P9X79 PRO] The usb driver appears to fail

on launchpad.


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only GDM3 greeter screen works

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Hello, 

Apparently I have mucked something up.  The GDM3 greeter screen (i.e. the
screen that displays your name, and solicits the password) functions, 
but it will not sign me on.

I can sign on via a terminal session, so it isn't a userid or
password problem.

I've run dpkg-reconfigure gdm3, but that didn't help.

I've run /etc/init.d/gdm3 restart, and that didn't help either.

Any ideas?

Dean

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under GDM3 printer outputs only blank pages

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Hello:

I finally upgraded to Wheezy and GDM3 in August.  Since then, my
Postscript printer which functioned correctly under GDM2 outputs
ONLY blank pages when print requests are submitted to CUPS.

The printer does function correctly if I run:

cat PS_FILE.ps  /dev/lp0

But using lp PS_FILE.ps or lp FILE.txt outputs only a blank
page.  Similar results occur if I print from ghostview for
example.

Any ideas on where to look, or what config file might need
tweaking?

Thanks,

Dean

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Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 03/04/13 10:12, Doug wrote:

On 03/04/2013 11:59 AM, Chris Davies wrote:

Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote:

The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline

export TERM=ansi80x25
printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf

produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard.

Please can you try this (before you do an export TERM):

 tput smul; echo perhaps this is underlined; tput rmul

This uses the proper characteristics for the terminal you've declared
(which may - or may not - be ESC [ 4m).

Chris



I've been looking at this thread for a while, and decided to try
the tput stuff, and it works on the Konsole-terminal in pclos.
Just in case anyone cares.

--doug



I tried so many things, the terminal is tired!

tput...   does the same as ESC[4m...

Also, ncurses A_UNDERLILNE does the same

Changes color to blue

Ansi says exc[xxxm should change the color to blue if I use xxx=34
and exc[34;1m bold blue.

This is a color display attached to a Raspberry Pi.  If I startx, I can 
produce underlined text with printf \033[4This is underlined\033[0m


But, this is a low powered CPU and I want a form on the screen.
ncurses will give me most of what I want.

Tom Dean


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ESC[4m does not produce underline

[Thomas D. Dean]

The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline

 export TERM=ansi80x25
 printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf

produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard.

If I put the same in c code, it works

#include stdio.h
int main() {
fputs(\033[4masdfasdf,stdout);
return 0;
}

I get underlined text.

Why?

Tom Dean


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Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline OOPS

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 03/01/13 11:35, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline

  export TERM=ansi80x25
  printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf

produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard.

If I put the same in c code, it works

#include stdio.h
int main() {
fputs(\033[4masdfasdf,stdout);
return 0;
}

I get underlined text.



I ran the C example in an xterm on Ubuntu!

The question remains.

Why does this produce color rather than underlined text?

The standard says ESC[32m should produce green text and ESC[4m should 
produce underlined text.


Tom Dean


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Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline OOPS

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 03/01/13 16:56, Glenn English wrote:

The linux console is a HDMI display attached to a RaspberryPi.

I changed to ncurses5.  Looks like the display does not support underline.

Thanks,

Tom Dean


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Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:

Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:

  as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),


Why is your seniority relevant?



Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience  to have a
valid point of reference without heavy handily touting that my intro to
computers was when the common input device was an 026 and core memory
involved literal iron. I've been chided before ;)




112737 deposit??


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Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote:



On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:

Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:

  as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),


Why is your seniority relevant?



Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience  to have a
valid point of reference without heavy handily touting that my intro to
computers was when the common input device was an 026 and core memory
involved literal iron. I've been chided before ;)


Pardon me for asking, but what's an 026?

I go pretty far back myself, to the days of front panel toggle switches,
paper tape, and ASR33 teletypes (and Frieden Flexowriter's for that
matter) - but 026 is a new one on me.

Miles




KSR Model 26?


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Re: Commands in /etc/rc.local Fail

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/23/13 23:29, Roman V.Leon. wrote:

On 24.02.2013 11:19, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

On 02/23/13 23:12, Roman V.Leon. wrote:

On 23.02.2013 13:42, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

On boot, wlan0 fails to come up. After login,
 sudo ifup wlan0
works.

 uname -a
Linux zd7000 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 09:49:36 UTC 2012 i686
GNU/Linux

 cat /etc/rc.local
/sbin/modprobe -r b43
/sbin/modprobe b43
/sbin/ifup wlan0
exit 0

But, the b43-pci-bridge driver is still in use.

Why do these commands not work?

 lspci -vnn
snip
02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306
802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN [103c:12f4]
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 21
Memory at d2004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge

After boot, wlan0 is not up.

However, from the command line,
 sudo ifup wlan0
 sudo ifconfig
snip
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:4b:52:82:8a
inet addr:192.168.2.10 Bcast:192.168.2.255 \
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::290:4bff:fe52:828a/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:239 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54845 (53.5 KiB) TX bytes:67723 (66.1 KiB)

and, networking works.

I enabled verbose in /etc/init.d/rc.local and see the proper message on
the console.
... Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
followed by lots of ioctl[SIOC...] messages

And, there are lots of failure messages in /var/log/kern.log

Feb 23 01:07:16 zd7000 kernel: [ 10.219719] b43: disagrees about
version
of symbol ssb_device_is_enabled
etc.

at Feb 23 01:30:40 unloaded b43-pci-bridge and then loaded b43
 sudo modprobe -r b43
and, the b43-pci-bridge driver is gone
 sudo modprobe b43
 sudo ifup wlan0

and, there are no error messages in /var/log/kern.log and networking
works.

 sudo tail -40 /var/log/kern.log
Feb 23 01:07:37 zd7000 kernel: [ 37.591944] synaptics: using relaxed
packet validation
Feb 23 01:08:22 zd7000 kernel: [ 83.220024] b43-phy0: dc775de4
Feb 23 01:08:22 zd7000 kernel: [ 83.285726] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0:
link is not ready
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.524678] wlan0: authenticate with
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.537165] wlan0: send auth to
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (try 1/3)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.538698] wlan0: authenticated
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.541025] wlan0: associate with
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (try 1/3)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.543648] wlan0: RX AssocResp from
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=2)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.544215] wlan0: associated
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.544267] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE):
wlan0: link becomes ready
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.886507] padlock: VIA PadLock not
detected.
Feb 23 01:08:26 zd7000 kernel: [ 86.426030] wlan0: IPv6 duplicate
address fe80::290:4bff:fe52:828a detected!
Feb 23 01:30:27 zd7000 kernel: [ 1407.875138] wlan0: deauthenticating
from 08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 by local choice (reason=3)
Feb 23 01:30:27 zd7000 kernel: [ 1407.909054] cfg80211: Calling CRDA
for
country: TW
Feb 23 01:30:40 zd7000 kernel: [ 1420.841198] b43-pci-bridge
:02:03.0: PCI INT A disabled
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655150] Compat-drivers backport
release: compat-drivers-v3.7.6-1
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655156] Backport based on
linux.git v3.7.6
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655159] compat.git: linux.git
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927850] b43-pci-bridge
:02:03.0: PCI INT A - GSI 21 (level, low) - IRQ 21
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927910] ssb: Found chip with id
0x4306, rev 0x03 and package 0x00
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927919] ssb: Core 0 found:
ChipCommon (cc 0x800, rev 0x04, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927930] ssb: Core 1 found: IEEE
802.11 (cc 0x812, rev 0x05, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927940] ssb: Core 2 found: PCMCIA
(cc 0x80D, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927949] ssb: Core 3 found: V90
(cc
0x807, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927959] ssb: Core 4 found: PCI
(cc
0x804, rev 0x09, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.931928] ssb: Sonics Silicon
Backplane found on PCI device :02:03.0
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.960576] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to
update world regulatory domain
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.999205] b43-phy0: dc4b9ea4
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.021018] b43-phy0: dc4b9e50
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.045117] Broadcom 43xx driver
loaded [ Features: PMNLS ]
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.059967] ieee80211 phy0: Selected
rate control algorithm 'minstrel_ht'
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.061916] Registered led device:
b43-phy0::tx
Feb 23 01:30:51

Re: Commands in /etc/rc.local Fail

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/24/13 00:23, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

After more investigation, it appears that some time is needed between 
loading the driver and ifup.


# ifdown wlan0  modprobe -v -r b43  modprobe -v b43  ifup wlan0

fails.

# ifdown wlan0  modprobe -v -r b43  modprobe -v b43  sleep 1  
ifup wlan0


works.

Tom Dean


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Re: Commands in /etc/rc.local Fail SOLVED

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/24/13 00:59, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

On 02/24/13 00:23, Thomas D. Dean wrote:



sudo update-initramfs -u

Fixed the problem.

Tom Dean



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Re: Commands in /etc/rc.local Fail

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/24/13 01:10, Roman V.Leon. wrote:

On 24.02.2013 12:59, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

On 02/24/13 00:23, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

After more investigation, it appears that some time is needed between
loading the driver and ifup.

# ifdown wlan0  modprobe -v -r b43  modprobe -v b43  ifup wlan0

fails.

# ifdown wlan0  modprobe -v -r b43  modprobe -v b43  sleep 1 
ifup wlan0

works.

Tom Dean



Right, but i cannot understand why the module is still loading if you
added it in your blacklists, didn't you forget to rebuild your initrd ?


My problem was wlan0 not up after boot.

blacklisting the module did not fix this problem, it just made it 
necessary to manually bring up wlan0.


Thanks,
Tom Dean


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Cross Compile X86_64 host arm_32 target

[Thomas D. Dean]

-linux-gnueabi/lib/../lib 
-L/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6/../../../../arm-linux-gnueabi/lib 
-L/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi -L/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi -L/usr/lib -L/lib 
/tmp//cct7ZQLo.o --start-group -lgcc -lgcc_eh -lc --end-group 
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6/crtend.o 
/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6/../../../../arm-linux-gnueabi/lib/../lib/crtn.o


Target ../host/work/hello
../host/work/hello: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), 
statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.31, 
BuildID[sha1]=0x908bca69df0bd528aa73c642fa21b9d049aa2525, not stripped

Target ../host/work/hello
Illegal instruction

On Host, it apprars to pick up the correct libs. library mismatch?

How do I fix this?

Tom Dean


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Commands in /etc/rc.local Fail

[Thomas D. Dean]

On boot, wlan0 fails to come up.  After login,
 sudo ifup wlan0
works.

 uname -a
Linux zd7000 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 09:49:36 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux

 cat  /etc/rc.local
/sbin/modprobe -r b43
/sbin/modprobe b43
/sbin/ifup wlan0
exit 0

But, the b43-pci-bridge driver is still in use.

Why do these commands not work?

 lspci -vnn
snip
02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 
802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN 
[103c:12f4]

Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 21
Memory at d2004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge

After boot, wlan0 is not up.

However, from the command line,
 sudo ifup wlan0
 sudo ifconfig
snip
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:4b:52:82:8a
  inet addr:192.168.2.10  Bcast:192.168.2.255  \
  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::290:4bff:fe52:828a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:239 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:54845 (53.5 KiB)  TX bytes:67723 (66.1 KiB)

and, networking works.

I enabled verbose in /etc/init.d/rc.local and see the proper message on 
the console.

... Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
followed by lots of ioctl[SIOC...] messages

And, there are lots of failure messages in /var/log/kern.log

Feb 23 01:07:16 zd7000 kernel: [   10.219719] b43: disagrees about 
version of symbol ssb_device_is_enabled

etc.

at Feb 23 01:30:40 unloaded b43-pci-bridge and then loaded b43
 sudo modprobe -r b43
and, the b43-pci-bridge driver is gone
 sudo modprobe b43
 sudo ifup wlan0

and, there are no error messages in /var/log/kern.log and networking works.

 sudo tail -40 /var/log/kern.log
Feb 23 01:07:37 zd7000 kernel: [   37.591944] synaptics: using relaxed 
packet validation

Feb 23 01:08:22 zd7000 kernel: [   83.220024] b43-phy0: dc775de4
Feb 23 01:08:22 zd7000 kernel: [   83.285726] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): 
wlan0: link is not ready
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.524678] wlan0: authenticate with 
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.537165] wlan0: send auth to 
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (try 1/3)

Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.538698] wlan0: authenticated
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.541025] wlan0: associate with 
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (try 1/3)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.543648] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=2)

Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.544215] wlan0: associated
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.544267] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): 
wlan0: link becomes ready
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [   85.886507] padlock: VIA PadLock not 
detected.
Feb 23 01:08:26 zd7000 kernel: [   86.426030] wlan0: IPv6 duplicate 
address fe80::290:4bff:fe52:828a detected!
Feb 23 01:30:27 zd7000 kernel: [ 1407.875138] wlan0: deauthenticating 
from 08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 by local choice (reason=3)
Feb 23 01:30:27 zd7000 kernel: [ 1407.909054] cfg80211: Calling CRDA for 
country: TW
Feb 23 01:30:40 zd7000 kernel: [ 1420.841198] b43-pci-bridge 
:02:03.0: PCI INT A disabled
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655150] Compat-drivers backport 
release: compat-drivers-v3.7.6-1
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655156] Backport based on 
linux.git v3.7.6

Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655159] compat.git: linux.git
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927850] b43-pci-bridge 
:02:03.0: PCI INT A - GSI 21 (level, low) - IRQ 21
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927910] ssb: Found chip with id 
0x4306, rev 0x03 and package 0x00
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927919] ssb: Core 0 found: 
ChipCommon (cc 0x800, rev 0x04, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927930] ssb: Core 1 found: IEEE 
802.11 (cc 0x812, rev 0x05, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927940] ssb: Core 2 found: PCMCIA 
(cc 0x80D, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927949] ssb: Core 3 found: V90 (cc 
0x807, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927959] ssb: Core 4 found: PCI (cc 
0x804, rev 0x09, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.931928] ssb: Sonics Silicon 
Backplane found on PCI device :02:03.0
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.960576] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to 
update world regulatory domain

Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.999205] b43-phy0: dc4b9ea4
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.021018] b43-phy0: dc4b9e50
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.045117] Broadcom 43xx driver 
loaded [ Features: PMNLS ]
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.059967] ieee80211 phy0: Selected 
rate control algorithm 'minstrel_ht'
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.061916] Registered led device: 
b43-phy0::tx

Re: Commands in /etc/rc.local Fail

[Thomas D. Dean]

On 02/23/13 23:12, Roman V.Leon. wrote:

On 23.02.2013 13:42, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

On boot, wlan0 fails to come up. After login,
  sudo ifup wlan0
works.

  uname -a
Linux zd7000 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 09:49:36 UTC 2012 i686
GNU/Linux

  cat /etc/rc.local
/sbin/modprobe -r b43
/sbin/modprobe b43
/sbin/ifup wlan0
exit 0

But, the b43-pci-bridge driver is still in use.

Why do these commands not work?

  lspci -vnn
snip
02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306
802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN [103c:12f4]
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 21
Memory at d2004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge

After boot, wlan0 is not up.

However, from the command line,
  sudo ifup wlan0
  sudo ifconfig
snip
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:4b:52:82:8a
inet addr:192.168.2.10 Bcast:192.168.2.255 \
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::290:4bff:fe52:828a/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:239 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54845 (53.5 KiB) TX bytes:67723 (66.1 KiB)

and, networking works.

I enabled verbose in /etc/init.d/rc.local and see the proper message on
the console.
... Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
followed by lots of ioctl[SIOC...] messages

And, there are lots of failure messages in /var/log/kern.log

Feb 23 01:07:16 zd7000 kernel: [ 10.219719] b43: disagrees about version
of symbol ssb_device_is_enabled
etc.

at Feb 23 01:30:40 unloaded b43-pci-bridge and then loaded b43
  sudo modprobe -r b43
and, the b43-pci-bridge driver is gone
  sudo modprobe b43
  sudo ifup wlan0

and, there are no error messages in /var/log/kern.log and networking
works.

  sudo tail -40 /var/log/kern.log
Feb 23 01:07:37 zd7000 kernel: [ 37.591944] synaptics: using relaxed
packet validation
Feb 23 01:08:22 zd7000 kernel: [ 83.220024] b43-phy0: dc775de4
Feb 23 01:08:22 zd7000 kernel: [ 83.285726] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0:
link is not ready
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.524678] wlan0: authenticate with
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.537165] wlan0: send auth to
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (try 1/3)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.538698] wlan0: authenticated
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.541025] wlan0: associate with
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (try 1/3)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.543648] wlan0: RX AssocResp from
08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=2)
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.544215] wlan0: associated
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.544267] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE):
wlan0: link becomes ready
Feb 23 01:08:25 zd7000 kernel: [ 85.886507] padlock: VIA PadLock not
detected.
Feb 23 01:08:26 zd7000 kernel: [ 86.426030] wlan0: IPv6 duplicate
address fe80::290:4bff:fe52:828a detected!
Feb 23 01:30:27 zd7000 kernel: [ 1407.875138] wlan0: deauthenticating
from 08:86:3b:d6:f5:c8 by local choice (reason=3)
Feb 23 01:30:27 zd7000 kernel: [ 1407.909054] cfg80211: Calling CRDA for
country: TW
Feb 23 01:30:40 zd7000 kernel: [ 1420.841198] b43-pci-bridge
:02:03.0: PCI INT A disabled
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655150] Compat-drivers backport
release: compat-drivers-v3.7.6-1
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655156] Backport based on
linux.git v3.7.6
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.655159] compat.git: linux.git
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927850] b43-pci-bridge
:02:03.0: PCI INT A - GSI 21 (level, low) - IRQ 21
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927910] ssb: Found chip with id
0x4306, rev 0x03 and package 0x00
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927919] ssb: Core 0 found:
ChipCommon (cc 0x800, rev 0x04, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927930] ssb: Core 1 found: IEEE
802.11 (cc 0x812, rev 0x05, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927940] ssb: Core 2 found: PCMCIA
(cc 0x80D, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927949] ssb: Core 3 found: V90 (cc
0x807, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.927959] ssb: Core 4 found: PCI (cc
0x804, rev 0x09, vendor 0x4243)
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.931928] ssb: Sonics Silicon
Backplane found on PCI device :02:03.0
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.960576] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to
update world regulatory domain
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1431.999205] b43-phy0: dc4b9ea4
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.021018] b43-phy0: dc4b9e50
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.045117] Broadcom 43xx driver
loaded [ Features: PMNLS ]
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.059967] ieee80211 phy0: Selected
rate control algorithm 'minstrel_ht'
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.061916] Registered led device:
b43-phy0::tx
Feb 23 01:30:51 zd7000 kernel: [ 1432.062031] Registered led device:
b43-phy0::rx
Feb 23 01:30

Re: MSI N210 graphics card causes boot failure

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Sven:

On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:29:51AM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2011-12-31 21:41 +0100, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
 
  On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
---snip---
 It is essential to find out why it does not work.  You might want to try
 my suggestion to to log in via ssh and then run dmesg after re-loading
 the nouveau module.  Boot with drm.debug=0x04 to obtain additional
 information.  Also, try a 3.2.0-rc7 kernel from experimental.
 

As I haven't heard back, I presume that the dmesg with debug
enabled was insufficient to diagnose the problem.  I did try to
load up the experimental kernel, but there were two libraries (as
I recall, my notes are unavailable just now) that were
dependencies, and they weren't available.

I've been to kernel.org to get the suggested kernel, but haven't
managed to build it yet.  I'll try today and let you know.

Thanks for the assistance so far.

Dean

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Re: MSI N210 graphics card causes boot failure

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Sven:

I have executed the recommended procedure.  I didn't appreciate
the need for the remote login until you explained the purpose -
sorry for the delay.  

On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:29:51AM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2011-12-31 21:41 +0100, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
 
  On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
  
  That should work around the problem.  If possible, use a second machine
  to log in via ssh and run rmmod nouveau; modprobe nouveau modeset=1
  then.
 
  Apending nouveau.modeset=0 at boot time allowed the boot to proceed
  normally.  gdm popped up a graphical screen as expected, BUT, the
  resolution was 800X600.
 
  As root, I then executed rmmod nouveau; modprobe nouveau modeset=1
  which caused a loss of X (screen went black) and a loss of the mouse.
  The keyboard continued to function allowing me to halt the system.
  I was unable to bring up one of the 6 text screens, and had to work
  blindly.
 
 That's why I suggested to log in from a second computer via ssh.  It's
 hard to do anything with a blank screen.
 
  I examined the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (new MSI card) and compared it to
  the /var/log/Xorg.0.log (old 6600 card).  It appears that the nouveau
  module may not have been used.  The VESA module seems to be the module
  of choice and all the higher resolutions were disabled.
 
 This is expected, the nouveau X driver needs kernel modesetting to work.
 
  It seems that the nouveau modeset=1 does not function as expected.
 
 It is essential to find out why it does not work.  You might want to try
 my suggestion to to log in via ssh and then run dmesg after re-loading
 the nouveau module.  Boot with drm.debug=0x04 to obtain additional
 information.  Also, try a 3.2.0-rc7 kernel from experimental.

I have performed the following to create the attached file:

booted with nouveau.modeset=0 and drm.debug=0x04

logged in remotely

executed rmmod nouveau; modprobe nouveau modeset=1

executed dmesg  dmesg.drm.modeset_1

gzipped the latter file

I noted where the rmmod etc. was executed in the file
(near line 643)

Attached the file to this note...

I'll try the 3.2.0-rc7 kernel you mentioned after this note goes.

  To your knowledge, are there alternative settings that one might use;
  or do you recommend the binary nVidia driver?
 
 The only available alternative in wheezy/sid is the vesa driver which is
 probably not going to suite you.
 
 Sven

Regards,

Dean

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Description: Binary data

MSI N210 graphics card causes boot failure

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Hello:

My nVidia GeForce 6600 GT card started to act up, so I purchased an
inexpensive MSI N210 card (which uses the 210 nVidia chipset).
The salesman said I'd be happier with it!

Sadly, after the the initial boot sequence lines of text (in regular
VGA font) appear, the screen goes blank, and the disc stops working.
It appears that the fine print boot messages are lost at that time.
Is it possible the card does not support alternative VGA text formats?

I should add that the keyboard, mouse and network are all dead at that
time, which suggests that the boot sequence was incomplete.

The MSI box indicates that a PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0 slot are all
that is required.  The mother board provides the former (it is an ASUS
A8N-E board purchased with the original graphics card in '06 or
so).  lsmod shows a nouveau driver being loaded with the old
card, but I doubt it gets that far with the new card.

Does anyone know why this happens, or what if any incompatibilities there
are between the current Debian release and this card?  Any suggestions
for an alternative card would also be welcome (high gaming performance
is not needed).

Thanks,

Dean

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Re: MSI N210 graphics card causes boot failure

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Sven and Camaleón:

Thankyou for the replies and suggestions.  I have made some
progress.  See below.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2011-12-31 16:31 +0100, Camaleón wrote:
 
  On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 07:30:30 -0700, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
 
  My nVidia GeForce 6600 GT card started to act up, so I purchased an
  inexpensive MSI N210 card (which uses the 210 nVidia chipset). The
  salesman said I'd be happier with it!
  
  Sadly, after the the initial boot sequence lines of text (in regular VGA
  font) appear, the screen goes blank, and the disc stops working. It
  appears that the fine print boot messages are lost at that time. Is it
  possible the card does not support alternative VGA text formats?
 
 Hardly, I dare say.
 
  Does anyone know why this happens, or what if any incompatibilities
  there are between the current Debian release and this card?  Any
  suggestions for an alternative card would also be welcome (high gaming
  performance is not needed).
 
  Before anything, I would try these steps:
 
  1/ Rename any current /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (if any) and let Xorg to 
  auto-configure the card.
 
 This will not help, since there is a problem with the kernel module.
 
  2/ Boot with KMS disabled (append nouveau.modeset=0 at boot's kernel 
  line).
 
 That should work around the problem.  If possible, use a second machine
 to log in via ssh and run rmmod nouveau; modprobe nouveau modeset=1
 then.

Apending nouveau.modeset=0 at boot time allowed the boot to proceed
normally.  gdm popped up a graphical screen as expected, BUT, the
resolution was 800X600.

As root, I then executed rmmod nouveau; modprobe nouveau modeset=1
which caused a loss of X (screen went black) and a loss of the mouse.
The keyboard continued to function allowing me to halt the system.
I was unable to bring up one of the 6 text screens, and had to work
blindly.

I examined the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (new MSI card) and compared it to
the /var/log/Xorg.0.log (old 6600 card).  It appears that the nouveau
module may not have been used.  The VESA module seems to be the module
of choice and all the higher resolutions were disabled.

 Sven

It seems that the nouveau modeset=1 does not function as expected.
To your knowledge, are there alternative settings that one might use;
or do you recommend the binary nVidia driver?

Thanks,

Dean

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Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:46:23PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
 On 12/23/2011 07:57 AM, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
 I noted your comments on Python, and while I haven't any
 experience with the 2 -  3 transition, I am inclined to prefer
 it.  In fact, almost all my work is now in that language.  You
 can see some examples at my page (below) in the SOFTWARE section.
 
 Which version of Python do you use?
 
 
 David

 2011-12-23 23:43:38 dpchrist@p43400e ~
 $ cat /etc/debian_version
 6.0.3
 
 2011-12-23 23:44:03 dpchrist@p43400e ~
 $ python --version
 Python 2.6.6

My system and Python versions are identical to yours.

Dean

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Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

David:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 02:14:44PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
 Someone wrote:
 I am like you and wrote most of my C++ during the
 early years of the language.  I used the ATT Cfront version 1.2
 compiler for years.  Always on Unix machines and never on Windows.
 
 I have become disillusioned with the new C++ that has the kitchen sink
 in it.  It has become the new ADA.  I believe it makes easy programs
 easy and hard programs harder.  So now I program in C and haven't
 written much C++ in years.
 
 I learned Perl in 1998, and have been using it as my primary

---snip---

 I learned C++ in 1995 and used it professionally until ~2000.  While
 I loved C, I have mixed memories of C++.  I have positive memories

---big snip---

My preference was C (which followed years of FORTRAN) for
geophysical applications.  I did some C++ but never cared for the
syntax.

I noted your comments on Python, and while I haven't any
experience with the 2 - 3 transition, I am inclined to prefer
it.  In fact, almost all my work is now in that language.  You
can see some examples at my page (below) in the SOFTWARE section.

Regards,

Dean

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Re: web page image alignment

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Wayne and Weaver:

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 08:02:43PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
 On 04/19/2011 07:47 PM, Heddle Weaver wrote:
 On 20 April 2011 07:33, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.
 provi...@telusplanet.net  wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 I'm trying to use the Writer program to put a web page together.
 
 I want to include some images, and I'd like to cut back on the
 document length.
 
 I tried placing the PNG images side by side (I used the LEFT alignment
 and RIGHT alignment controls on the menu bar), and they looked just fine
 in the Writer document.
 
 Sending them out to HTML (via export) and displaying them with iceweasel
 (and I also tried the most recent Firefox, and the installed Epiphany
 Web Browser) wasn't very satisfactory.  They overlaid each other!
 
 
 I have not used it in a few years but I suggest you take at the
 Debian kompozer package.  I tried it when OO didn't cut the mustard
 and was very satisfied with thew results.
 
 WT
 
 Any ideas on how to correct this?
 
 
 In the repositories, in any distribution from Squeeze onward and even
 available in Lenny through backports:
 
 *http://tinyurl.com/3o9acyn
 *
 Writer is essentially an html capable word processor but is far from a
 mature web authoring app.
 Regards,
 
 Weaver.

Thanks for the feedback.  I've installed kompozer and am now
experimenting with it.  So far it looks very good.

Dean

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web page image alignment

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Hello:

I'm trying to use the Writer program to put a web page together.  

I want to include some images, and I'd like to cut back on the
document length.

I tried placing the PNG images side by side (I used the LEFT alignment
and RIGHT alignment controls on the menu bar), and they looked just fine
in the Writer document.

Sending them out to HTML (via export) and displaying them with iceweasel
(and I also tried the most recent Firefox, and the installed Epiphany
Web Browser) wasn't very satisfactory.  They overlaid each other!

Any ideas on how to correct this?

Thanks,

Dean

PS:  I'm using OO 3.3.0 (330M20 build 9567).

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arbitrary disk name assignment affects dump/restore

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Andrei, Stan and Paul:

Thanks for the replies.  I was unaware that /dev/disk/*
existed.  I must have missed that lesson during the last upgrade.

I appreciate your assistance.

Regards from Calgary,

Dean

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arbitrary disk name assignment affects dump/restore

[Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph.]

Hello

I have used dump and restore to perform system backups for many years.
Since upgrading to Debian 6.x, I have not been able to obtain consistent and
reliable dumps for the following reason:

   Sometimes. my single fixed disk is labeled as /dev/sda, but

   At other times, it is labeled as /dev/sdb.

My dump script identifies a partition to dump by its name (i.e. /home)
or partition (i.e. /dev/sda3) depending on the dump level.

If /var/lib/dumpdates indicates that the last lower value dump was performed
on partition /dev/sda3, and the system has assigned that partition to
/dev/sda3, then all is well;  however if the system has
arbitrarily labeled that partition as /dev/sdb3, then dump thinks that no
lower level dump was ever performed on that partition, and it attempts to
perform a level 0 (i.e. full dump) dump and the tape in my tape drive is
insufficiently long to handle that amount of data.

This means that I must NOT rely on my automatic (crontab-based) dump
scripts, but interrogate the system manually, and if necessary, alter
/var/lib/dumpdates so that the script will run properly.

This is a REAL PAIN.

Is it possible that /etc/fstab, which now identifies the partitions on my
single fixed disc via UUID labels, is an unwilling participant in this
confusion?

Should I alter /dev/fstab to indicate the partitions as it was done before
(i.e. /dev/sda1 is /, /dev/sda3 is /home etc.)?

I look forward to your analysis and recommendation.

Dean

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Re: How To Temporarily Suspend Network Traffic

[Kelly Dean]

lrhorer wrote:
Volkan YAZICI wrote:
 I want to temporarily suspend the network traffic on a particular
 interface -- if possible, in microsecond granularity.
 I have to ask.  Why are you wanting to do this?  It seems a truly
bizarre request.

Maybe in order to simulate intermittent RFI on wireless networks, in order to 
see how TCP responds. (Hint: it responds very stupidly.)


  


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How up-to-date is Debian's stable release kept to fix published kernel security vulnerabilities?

[Kelly Dean]

http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2010-2943 was published 
Sept 30, 2010, and says that Linux 2.6.32.5 is vulnerable. Squeeze uses 
2.6.32-5, built on Jan 12, 2011. Is Squeeze's kernel fixed, or does it have the 
vulnerability?

http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable currently says 
that the stable suite has the vulnerability, and Squeeze is currently the 
latest stable, but the page doesn't explicitly say that Squeeze is the latest 
stable and has the vulnerability, and there's no timestamp on the page. The 
last-modified header appears to have the common bug of reporting the server's 
current clock time rather than the page's last modified timestamp, so that's 
useless too.

Did Squeeze really get released with a high-urgency remote kernel vulnerability 
which was published four months earlier?


  


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Re: Iceweasel 3.5.6 global spellcheck

[Dean Montgomery]

 * Base System: Lenny
 * iceweasel: 3.5.6-1~bpo50+1
 * myspell-en-us: 1:2.4.0-3

Was it working before you upgraded iceweasel from backports?

Yes spellcheck was working before upgrading to iceweasel backport.


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Re: Iceweasel 3.5.6 global spellcheck

[Dean Montgomery]

 * Base System: Lenny
 * iceweasel: 3.5.6-1~bpo50+1
 * myspell-en-us: 1:2.4.0-3

I found/fixed the problem:
 cd /usr/lib/iceweasel
 sudo ln -s ../../share/myspell/dicts dictionaries

Restart Firefox.  I'm not sure if I should report this as a bug or not.



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Iceweasel 3.5.6 global spellcheck

[Dean Montgomery]

I can't seem to get global spellcheck working for Iceweasel.  I don't want to 
have all users download dictionaries to their HOME folder but rather a centraly 
installed dictionary for all users.

In the past Iceweasel would detect and use myspell dictionaries.

* Base System: Lenny
* iceweasel: 3.5.6-1~bpo50+1
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Someone help me in the right direction for networks - Might be off topic

[Dean Chester]

Hi,
I've been asked to set up a network of between 6 and 10 computers, using
linux yet i don't know what to do. I've decided to allocate 2 as servers and
because we have to run our network with in another network so we are hoping
to run the 1 server as a copy of the other one just it will be sitting
outside of the firewall(not allowed to open other ports on the firewall) so
we can access documents at home, i'm thinking of running a webdav server to
do that part.. Now the main problem how would i go about configuring the
workstations to allow home directries on any computer so users do not have
to have specific computers and they can go in and use any freely avaliable
machine. I am open to another suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Dean

Re: Someone help me in the right direction for networks - Might be off topic

[Dean Chester]

Thanks for that you have given me a place to start, am not so tempted just
to run ubuntu server and run debian and configure it all myself.
Dean

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Didar Hossain didar.hoss...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Dean Chester
 dean.g.ches...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hi,
  I've been asked to set up a network of between 6 and 10 computers, using
  linux yet i don't know what to do. I've decided to allocate 2 as servers
 and
  because we have to run our network with in another network so we are
 hoping
  to run the 1 server as a copy of the other one just it will be sitting
  outside of the firewall(not allowed to open other ports on the firewall)
 so
  we can access documents at home, i'm thinking of running a webdav server
 to
  do that part.. Now the main problem how would i go about configuring the
  workstations to allow home directries on any computer so users do not
 have
  to have specific computers and they can go in and use any freely
 avaliable
  machine. I am open to another suggestions.

 NIS+NFS used to be a popular setup for roaming users. Now, NIS is
 being replaced by LDAP.
 However, I have no experience with LDAP much so can't tell you much.

 The old NIS-howto and NFS-howto documents are what I had referred to
 get the NIS+NFS thing
 going. Maybe you it could still help.

 HTH,
 Didar


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How much RAM can debian support?

[Dean Chester]

Hi
I'm moving to a Macbook soon(staying with debian tho:p) and apple keep
advertising that snow leopard can support 16 exobytes of RAM. Im just
wondering how much can 64-bit debian support?
Thanks in advance
Dean

Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?

[Dean Sutherland]

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:45:00 -0400 (EDT), rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

[snip]
 
no, i want to go the *other* way -- to ask what
  currently-installed packages depend *on* a given,
  currently-installed package.
 
   actually, even though i was asking in the context of a system in the
 process of upgrading on which there is all kinds of historical cruft
 so i fully expect to find older versions of packages lying around, i
 just noticed that the same thing happens on a fresh (and updated)
 version of lenny (5.0.2).
 
   here are two currently installed packages (according to dpkg -l):
 
 gcc-4.2-base
 gcc-4.3-base
 
 my immediate thought is -- why do i need both?  it's quite possible i
 *do*, but i don't know how to verify that.  hence my question:  how
 can i display what installed packages allegedly depend on
 gcc-4.2-base, so that i know it's actually required to be on my
 system.  i realize i can simulate trying to remove it to see what
 would happen, but that strikes me as messy and overkill.
 


Hi,

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the command you're
after is apt-cache rdepends packagename

d...@subspace:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.1
gcc-4.1
Reverse Depends:
  linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686
  gcc-doc-base
  gcc-doc-base
  gcc-4.1-doc
  gcc-4.1-doc
  gpc-4.1
  gcj-4.4-jdk
  gcj-4.3
  gcj-4.2
  gcc-4.1-multilib
  gcc-4.1-multilib
  gcc-4.1-locales
  g++-4.1

It appears not all of those packages will be removed if you remove the
gcc-4.1 package.

d...@subspace:~$ sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.1-base
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cpp-4.1 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 394 not upgraded.


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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

[Dean Sutherland]

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:36 -0500, jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer
 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:24:55 -0500
 
 In 4a8d8e01.1080...@cox.net, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 2009-08-20 12:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 [snip]
 
  Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and
  IceOwl are first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express
  are second worlders
 
 first world translators???
 
 They live in the first world but try to speak with second worlders. 
 I'll admit my analogy is not great[1] and perhaps I was being a
 little... opaque... when I wrote that. 
 --
 Well thanks for at least confirming that I'm marginally sane  not the
 only one with this issue. I think I'll send a query to the evolution
 developers. They claim it's a drop in replacement for exchange  it's
 not quite. BTW Boyd attachment does work as long as the image was
 inline to start with. Otherwise no go.
 Thanks All!


Hi John,

Have you tried:

Select Message - Forward As - Inline [1] 

or

edit--- preferences-- composer preferences--- forward style and
change it for the drop down and choose inline [2] ?


[1]
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/61590
[2]
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/73036

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Gnome not reconizing Keyboard

[Dean Chester]

Hi
I started playing with sysvconfig and then rebooted and gnome stopped my
keyboard from working was it that i disabled a service or was it an upgrade
that has affected the keyboard. I have not changed my xorg.conf file. I can
boot in to single user mode and older kernels yet they don't support the
graphics card so can't check to see if it works with gnome. I can use it in
another tty yet can't switch to another one from the gnome login window. Any
suggestions welcome
Dean

Pocket Hard Drive or Keypen to run Linux

[Dean Chester]

Hi
Im soon to be buying a new key pen/pocket hard drive that will have a
linux distro installed on a partition. What would be the best to go
for as key pens only have a certain life and the keypen will be used
daily. I know i shouldn't run it as a main OS off the keypen yet im
not allowed to install it on the hard drive of my school issued
laptop. I will be looking at either at getting 2 16gb keypens or one
big pocket hard drive. Will also the read and write speed be an issue
aswell?
Thanks in advance
Dean


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Re: Missing initrd now can't boot

[Dean Chester]

Hi
Thanks for that. But i booted in to the GRUB command prompt and loaded
a backup of my initrd files with the kernel. And soon as i had i
copied them to the correct place.
Dean

On 3/14/09, Daryl Styrk darylst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dean Chester wrote:
 Hi
 I was playing with the update-initrd tool to try and fix the booting
 of my system and i deleted the current initrd files. Then my battery
 died and i can't boot in to debian at all now what should i do? The
 error that comes up is that it is asking for the initrd file yet that
 doesn't exist because i deleted them. I can't boot in single user mode
 or do anything other that boot in to vista. So please can you help. My
 inital reation was to reformat but then i thought i would post this
 email to see if there was a fix.
 Thanks in advance
 Dean


 I think you can get by with any liveCD and chroot.

 once in...
 # dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.*

 See 6.3 Regenerating the initrd
 http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-initrd.html


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Missing initrd now can't boot

[Dean Chester]

Hi
I was playing with the update-initrd tool to try and fix the booting
of my system and i deleted the current initrd files. Then my battery
died and i can't boot in to debian at all now what should i do? The
error that comes up is that it is asking for the initrd file yet that
doesn't exist because i deleted them. I can't boot in single user mode
or do anything other that boot in to vista. So please can you help. My
inital reation was to reformat but then i thought i would post this
email to see if there was a fix.
Thanks in advance
Dean


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USplash

[Dean Chester]

Hi
I recently installed Usplash for a boot splash screen for my debian
system. I have now removed usplash  i think its called and the
splashscreen still exists. Anyideas on how i can fix this?
Dean


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Re: netbook for debian

[Dean Chester]

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 10:17:00AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am thinking of buying a netbook and would like to ask for opinions
  about good options for use with debian (preferably, alternatively
  Ubuntu). At the moment, I have been looking at
  Samsung NC10-anyNet KA06DE 10,2 Zoll WSVGA Netbook
  and
  Asus Eee PC 1000H 10 Zoll WSVGA Netbook
  but I would like to spend as little money as possible to get a reliable
  small laptop for presentations and for writing/surfing while on the road.
 
  thanks cheers Peter
 

 I own an Asus EeePC 901 running Debian, and I'm loving every moment of
 it. As long as you set it up properly (covered by
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC ) it will fly like a regular desktop.
 I even play games on it (albeit only Teeworlds and Armagetronad, but
 it's enough online gaming to kill time between classes; nothing
 hardcore).

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Hi
I part own a NC10 with my brother and love it with debian. It looks so cool.
Installing debian on it was easy just needs at least kernel version 2.6.27
because of the wifi driver. I love the keyboard on it compared to my 12
school laptop as most of the keys are a good size. I hope this helps with
your decision.
Dean

[OT I think] Which Distro?

[Dean Chester]

Hi
I have been recently looking at other distros to use other than Debian. And
i have also been given a new laptop for use in school which i am soon going
to be running Linux on. However i don't know what to go for. The 3 options
to choose from are Debian(of course), Ubuntu or Fedora. The Laptop is
Novatech Branded Clevo M72R(i think). The Reason i ask this is that ubuntu
and fedora feel like what OS should feel like to me and feel more
'connected' and not a bit of a missmash which is what debian feels like to
me, I moved from OS X August 08. Also they are updated more frequently.
Thanks in Advance
Dean

Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

[Dean Chester]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ken Teague wrote:

  Jimmy Johnson wrote:
   If you are smart you will give SimplyMEPIS 8.0 a try before you

 decide. ;)


  Does that make him dumb, stupid or ignorant if he doesn't?


 It only means what it says.

 And please keep your reply to the list.

 Thank you,

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 OK will try with some live CDs. Next question 32-bit or 64-bit has a C2D
processor?
Dean

Use of Swap Space

[Dean Chester]

Hi
I recently noticed that my CPU is at 100% when the temperature of my CPU is
high. Taking a look at System Monitor i have also discovered that my swap
space is being used while only 13% of the RAM is, why isn't is using the
rest of the RAM. Has anyone got any ideas why?
Thanks in Advance
Dean.

KDE 4

[Dean Chester]

Hi
does any one know where i can install KDE4 from its not in sid and in
experimental its missing KDEbase so it can't install. I want to run it
to compare it to GNOME as ive have been using gnome since August and
cannot get used to it(i migrated from OS X btw) so i want to try KDE
and KDE 4 is nice apparently.
Thanks in Advance
Dean


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APT Help

[Dean Chester]

Hi
When ever i try to update my SID box i keep getting these errors and it
doesn't update does anyone know  how i can fix it? Here is the out put in
the console:
Extracting templates from packages: 100%
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 267846 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libghc6-highlighting-kate-dev ...
ghc-pkg: cannot find package highlighting-kate-0.2.1
dpkg: error processing libghc6-highlighting-kate-dev (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Reading package info from
/usr/lib/haskell-packages/ghc6/lib/highlighting-kate-0.2.1/installed-pkg-config
... done.
ghc-pkg: dependency parsec-2.1.0.0 doesn't exist (use --force to override)
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libghc6-highlighting-kate-dev
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Press return to continue.

Dean

Re: APT Help

[Dean Chester]

GHC6 is already installed on my system apparently.
Dean

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 07:09:10AM -0800, Djingo Cacadril 
 cacad...@yahoo.com was heard to say:
  From: Dean Chester dean.g.ches...@googlemail.com
   When ever i try to update my SID box i keep getting these errors and it
   doesn't update does anyone know  how i can fix it?
   Here is the out put in the console:
  [snip]
   Removing libghc6-highlighting-kate-dev ...
   ghc-pkg: cannot find package highlighting-kate-0.2.1
 
  Sid is like this. Use testing instead.
 
  Or wait a few days, till somebody uploads a fixed set of packages.

   Since that's a preremoval script, waiting won't help.  Luckily, the
 fix is simple: he needs to get ghc-pkg onto his system.  Installing
 the package ghc6 should do the trick.

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Re: APT Help

[Dean Chester]

Thanks Daniel that did the trick
Dean

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 03:45:55PM +, Dean Chester 
 dean.g.ches...@googlemail.com was heard to say:
  GHC6 is already installed on my system apparently.

   Ah, sorry.  I somehow misread / hallucinated that you got the message
 ghc-pkg: command not found.  If you had, my fix would have worked
 great. :-)

  According to http://bugs.debian.org/507338, the fix here is to edit


 /usr/lib/haskell-packages/ghc6/lib/highlighting-kate-0.2.1/installed-pkg-config

  and remove the reference to parsec.  That is, change

 depends: base-3.0.1.0 containers-0.1.0.1 parsec-2.1.0.0
 pcre-light-0.3.1 xhtml-3000.0.2.1 base-3.0.1.0 filepath-1.1.0.0

  to

 depends: base-3.0.1.0 containers-0.1.0.1
 pcre-light-0.3.1 xhtml-3000.0.2.1 base-3.0.1.0 filepath-1.1.0.0

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Re: AMD64 No sound

[Dean Chester]

Hi André
I also have a vostro. Do you have to run alsaconf everytime you want sound.
As i have this problem do you.
Dean

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:45 AM, André Neves andrechale...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lewis.

 In my Dell Vostro, using amd64, I had to put this in
 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to get the sound working:

 options snd-hda-intel model=3stack

 Might work for you.

 André


 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 04:29, M. Lewis ca...@cajuninc.com wrote:

 Javier Barroso wrote:

 Hello,

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Bob s...@homeurl.co.uk wrote:

 M. Lewis wrote:

  I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz
 the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture.
 After
 installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from
 the
 install, no problem).

 moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio
 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)

 You want to read the bit on snd-hda-intel in
 /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt
 try to identify your card and put a line a bit like this in
 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
 options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig position_fix=1
 From [1] your could probe another line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base

 options snd-hda-intel model=acer position_fix=1

 [1]
 http://www.esdebian.org/foro/21968/problemas-sonido-debian-lenny-64bits-ati-technologies-inc-sbx00-solucionado

 In the last post they say thanks, but I'm not sure if the sound worked
 again

 Regards,


 Unfortunately Javier, that didn't resolve the issue. Still no sound.
 Thanks,
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Speeding up Debian Boot

[Dean Chester]

Hi
Is there anyway i can speed up debians boot time. Its embarrassing that
Vista boots up quicker than debian.
Dean

Lenny upgrade wanting to delete x11-Common

[Dean Chester]

Hi
Im updating from etch on my netbook to lenny and it keeps trying to remove
x11-common which it can't and then it fails is there a way to finish this?
Dean

Re: ALSA Config

[Dean Chester]

Update: I unloaded alsa with the command: alsa unload. now i can't get it to
resume as it doesn't load any modules. I think this info might help us find
a solution. Outputs of commands
alsa unload:
debian:~# alsa unload
/usr/sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices: 31575(wish8.5).
Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm
snd-timer snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-hda-intel
snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc).
debian:~# alsa unload
Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm
snd-timer snd-page-alloc.
I left amsn running by mistake thats why it failed the first time.

alsa resume:
debian:~# alsa resume
debian:~# alsa resume
debian:~# alsa resume

As you can see its not loading anything. Hope this helps.
Dean

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Dean Chester
dean.g.ches...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi
 There is.
 d...@debian:/etc/rcS.d$ ls
 README   S20module-init-tools  S40pcmciautils
 S01glibc.sh  S25libdevmapper1.02   S43portmap
 S02hostname.sh   S30checkfs.sh S44nfs-common
 S02mountkernfs.shS30procps S45mountnfs.sh
 S03udev  S31hibernate  S46mountnfs-bootclean.sh
 S04mountdevsubfs.sh  S34fuse   S47lm-sensors
 S05bootlogd  S35mountall.shS48console-screen.sh
 S05keymap.sh S36mountall-bootclean.sh  S50alsa-utils
 S07hdparmS36udev-mtab  S55bootmisc.sh
 S08hwclockfirst.sh   S37mountoverflowtmp   S55urandom
 S10checkroot.sh  S38pppd-dns   S65firestarter
 S11hwclock.shS38resolvconf S70x11-common
 S12mtab.sh   S39ifupdown   S75sudo
 S18ifupdown-cleanS40networking S99stop-bootlogd-single
 Dean

 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:37 PM, J.Keßler 
 webmas...@bananas-playground.net wrote:

 Hello,

 is there a *alsa-utils entry in /etc/rcS.d available ?

 I'm not 100% sure but this can be it.

 j.keßler

 Dean Chester wrote:
  Hi,
  Everytime i boot in to debian(sid im running on a vostro 1400) i have
  to run alsaconfg. Is there anyway i can get rid of having to do this
  as it annoying.
  Dean
 
 


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Re: ALSA Config

[Dean Chester]

I noticed that this error came up on boot:
alsactl restore error message alsactl: set_control: 1269 : Failed to obtain
info for control #24(no such file or directory) when it was trying to start
alsa. So its to do with alsa not being able to restore the previous volumes
properly.

Nigel here is the information you wanted.
d...@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16.
d...@debian:~$ uname -r
2.6.26-1-amd64
d...@debian:~$ grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
/proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: SigmaTel STAC9228
/proc/asound/card0/codec#1:Codec: Conexant ID 2c06

BTW that is the problem as all the modules are loaded and unloaded
successfully. I am unable to boot in to previous kernels as i have removed
them(d'oh, stupid me).

Dean

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.frwrote:

 On Saturday 03 January 2009 19:30, Dean Chester wrote:
  Update: I unloaded alsa with the command: alsa unload. now i can't get it
  to resume as it doesn't load any modules. I think this info might help us
  find a solution. Outputs of commands
  alsa unload:
  debian:~# alsa unload
  /usr/sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices: 31575(wish8.5).
  Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm
  snd-timer snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-hda-intel
  snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc).
  debian:~# alsa unload
  Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm
  snd-timer snd-page-alloc.
  I left amsn running by mistake thats why it failed the first time.
 
  alsa resume:
  debian:~# alsa resume
  debian:~# alsa resume
  debian:~# alsa resume
 
  As you can see its not loading anything. Hope this helps.
  Dean

 Hi Dean.

 I havn't played around with alsa unload/alsa resume before, but when you
 reboot, are the alsa modules loaded again (lsmod | grep snd), and is the
 soundcard detected, as when running.
 cat /proc/asound/cards

 Don't post the output, a yes, or no is ok.

 Also please post the output of the following.

 cat /proc/asound/version
 uname -r
 grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*

 There are some model options for the STAC9228 codec, as listed below. Try
 them
 out one at a time in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, and obviously reboot to try
 each one.

 STAC9227/9228/9229/927x
   ref  Reference board
   3stack D965 3stack
   5stack D965 5stack + SPDIF
   dell-3stack Dell Dimension E520
   dell-bios Fixes with Dell BIOS setup

 The ref one is the default, but try the others. The above options are for
 the alsa driver 1.0.17, and also apply to alsa driver 1.0.18a.

 Example options line below.

 options snd-hda-intel model=3stack

 I'm thinking that there may be some slider missing in alsamixer when you
 boot
 the machine up, but when you run alsaconf, for some reason or other the
 correct mixer elements are displayed in alsamixer, which is why the sounds
 then work.

 If you have an earlier kernel installed, try booting with that, as some
 kernels can have problems with sounds.

 Just some suggestions from someone trying to help others to get sounds
 working.

 Nigel.


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ALSA Config

[Dean Chester]

Hi,
Everytime i boot in to debian(sid im running on a vostro 1400) i have
to run alsaconfg. Is there anyway i can get rid of having to do this
as it annoying.
Dean


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Re: ALSA Config

[dean . g . chester]

   30224  2 iwl3945,mac80211
 video  24212  10
 output  7808  1 video
-soundcore  12064  1 snd
-snd_page_alloc 13072  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 battery16904  0
 ac  9352  0
 button 11680  0

Dean

On 1/2/09, Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
 On Friday 02 January 2009 16:36, Dean Chester wrote:
 Hi,
 Everytime i boot in to debian(sid im running on a vostro 1400) i have
 to run alsaconfg. Is there anyway i can get rid of having to do this
 as it annoying.
 Dean

 Hi Dean.

 Would you post the output of, cat /proc/asound/cards , for before you run
 alsaconf, and after, when the sound is working.

 Also the output of, lsmod | grep snd

 Some drivers are notorious for grabbing card0, before your sound card which
 uses card0 has a chance. snd-bt87x is one, and also if you have anything
 plugged into the USB that uses audio (webcam mike, USB headset, usb midi
 keyboard (like me)), you can find that snd-usb-audio has grabbed card0, as
 the USB starts early in the bootup.

 Post back the requested info first, but if the above is the case, the fix is
 simple by setting index options lines in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.

 All the best.

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Re: ALSA Config

[Dean Chester]

Hi
There is.
d...@debian:/etc/rcS.d$ ls
README   S20module-init-tools  S40pcmciautils
S01glibc.sh  S25libdevmapper1.02   S43portmap
S02hostname.sh   S30checkfs.sh S44nfs-common
S02mountkernfs.shS30procps S45mountnfs.sh
S03udev  S31hibernate  S46mountnfs-bootclean.sh
S04mountdevsubfs.sh  S34fuse   S47lm-sensors
S05bootlogd  S35mountall.shS48console-screen.sh
S05keymap.sh S36mountall-bootclean.sh  S50alsa-utils
S07hdparmS36udev-mtab  S55bootmisc.sh
S08hwclockfirst.sh   S37mountoverflowtmp   S55urandom
S10checkroot.sh  S38pppd-dns   S65firestarter
S11hwclock.shS38resolvconf S70x11-common
S12mtab.sh   S39ifupdown   S75sudo
S18ifupdown-cleanS40networking S99stop-bootlogd-single
Dean

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:37 PM, J.Keßler webmas...@bananas-playground.net
 wrote:

 Hello,

 is there a *alsa-utils entry in /etc/rcS.d available ?

 I'm not 100% sure but this can be it.

 j.keßler

 Dean Chester wrote:
  Hi,
  Everytime i boot in to debian(sid im running on a vostro 1400) i have
  to run alsaconfg. Is there anyway i can get rid of having to do this
  as it annoying.
  Dean
 
 


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