Re: apt question
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/04/01 at 07:14 PM, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I may have misunderstood original posting but... >Enen if original poster started with one of Debian, he seems have >installled binary programs without debian package. (If he started with RH >or Slack, things are worse.) It was Slackware eons ago. I've converted it to be more like a Debian system. I'm using a Debian or SysV style init setup. I am new to Debian. I have a Debian setup on another partition I've be playing with. >If these programs are needed and can not be replaced by Debian ones, my >best bet is to make private package with higher version number and >install it to the clean system with dpkg -i, I think. Just like kernel. What I don't want to happen is to have apt decide to install the base system, because right now it thinks there is no base system installed. I understand that, normally one would want the packaging system to have complete control of the system in order to avoid mismatched versions etc., but it seems there could be cases where one might want to override the packaging system decisions Fred
Re: apt question
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/04/01 at 08:16 PM, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I am sure you have enough space on HD (like swap). >Just do not overwrite current system. Even if you try to hold them with >dselect, you have broken dependency. Yeah. Is there a way to get into the dependency map or database and simply tell the package manager that these programs are already installed and configured? My question is really quite simple. If we make an assumption that I know what I'm doing (I know, a really BIG assumption :)), then I manually tell the package manager that the base system (or whatever) is installed "perfectly"; no need to reinstall. I guess I need to take a look at the developer info and source code to see if this can be done. >Gradual migration with dual boot is my suggestion. Always maintain >working system. Be safe than sorry. I learned that years ago. Before that the Slackware boot, root, and rescue disks saved my arse many times. >Good luck. Osamu Thanks! Fred
Re: laptop boot image?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/06/01 at 12:05 PM, Matthew Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >"Michael P. Soulier" wrote: >> >> Hey people. I heard a rumour that the toshiba laptop I have works with >> Slackware, so while I wasn't able to get Debian's boot disks to work, the >> Slackware bootamp.i image worked great. Is there a Debian laptop-specific >> boot >> disk? >Toshiba laptops have a problem that makes them unable to boot bzImage >kernels. You have to boot using a zImage kernel, which is a pain in the >ass. The piece of crap Toshiba Laptop I have boots bzimage kernels fine. It's a 2250XCDS. Fred
Re: apt-get and dpkg broken
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/01 at 09:17 PM, Glen Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Joey Hess wrote: >> Glen Snyder wrote: >Thanks for the suggestions. It turned out that the problem was with >perlI reinstalled the perl packages and everything works fine. >dpkg-preconfigure is a perl script. >-Glen There seems to be a problem with apt and perl. It seems to want to remove and reinstall perl for no apparent reason when installing other packages. I believe another user pointed this out on this list as well. Perl is an essential program for configuring packages and if the perl install hoses (like mine did) then you have to install perl manually using dpkg. I'm glad I kept the perl debs archived. Fred
Re: Installing Debian
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/01 at 06:54 PM, MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >also sprach John Griffiths (on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:08:27AM +1100): > >>With the reputed development support that Debian has throughout the > >>world, isn't there someone who could take some time and come up with a >> >more fool proof and easier installation routine?. >this may just be me, but i think debian's installation routine is >beautiful and easy *iff* you know computers. if you are a "i just quit >micros~1" descendant, then you have to unlearn a whole lot of micros~1 >wrongness and learn real stuff before you can appreciate debian's >install! not meaning to sound condescending here, but that's the path >that i had to take. I agree. It's awesome, though not perfect. If the system makes mistakes, or does something you do not want it to do (assuming you know better.:)), it should be able to be override. Also I think there should be some method for tweaking/informing the database if you install programs from source tarballs. Otherwise you get into a Windows mentality thing where the system always knows better than you -and we all know how much we like Windows :( Fred
Re: apt question
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/01 at 12:52 PM, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Just package your private package with higher version number and install >over working Debian is safer. That is the right way. Maybe I could make a simple deb package of my sources. How hard is it to do that? Is there a link to some good docs? Fred
