Début de la fin pour Btrfs?
Bonjour Un bon article en français qui démystifie un btrfs apparemment présenté à tort comme le système de fichiers du futur https://linuxfr.org/users/ar7/journaux/btrfs-et-opensuse-episode-0-l-ex-fs-du-futur -- Maderios
Re: default "Default-Release" for APT
On 12/08/2016 12:11 AM, Martin T wrote: Hi, as I showed in my initial post, I don't have that file: # ls -l /etc/apt/apt.conf ls: cannot access /etc/apt/apt.conf: No such file or directory man apt.conf '/etc/apt/apt.conf is the main configuration file shared by all the tools in the APT suite of tools' Maybe it was created by apt-config internal command of apt https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-config -- Maderios
Re: default "Default-Release" for APT
On 12/07/2016 07:26 PM, Martin T wrote: Hi, I read the apt_preferences man page and it says that "To configure the default release in the configuration file, use: APT::Default-Release "stable";". While I have multiple distributions in sources.list file(stable, testing, unstable, jessie-backports), then I don't have the "Default-Release" configured: # grep -R Default-Release /etc/apt/ # What is the default "Default-Release"? How is this determined? Hi Look at your /etc/apt/apt.conf My apt.conf for testing: APT::Install-Recommends "false"; APT::Install-Suggests "false"; APT::Default-Release "testing"; -- Maderios
Re: Advantages of Debian "backports" over "testing"?
On 12/07/2016 12:45 AM, Martin T wrote:
Hi,
what are advantages of using Debian "backports"("jessie-backports" in
sources.list file) over "testing"("testing" in sources.list file)? As
Hi
You can't compare, they are completely different. Backport packages have
stable/Jessie compatibility. Testing/Stretch and Sid are very close to
each other. Very far from stable/jessie-backports/Jessie.
--
Maderios
Re: Resolved already: No ffmpeg?, howto convert/extract audio from webmd ,write to ogg?
On 12/05/2016 03:19 PM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 03:29:00PM +0100, maderios wrote: Yes, in the past, Marillat repository name *was* 'debian-multimedia', then he changed his site in 'deb-multimedia'. He was asked by Debian to change the domain name so people wouldn't think it was part of Debian. He reluctantly did so. I installed some stuff from Marillat's repo and it stuffed up my system completely, took me a couple of days to sort it out. :( I used Marillat's repo for many years, I never met such problem I prefer deb-multimedia, from far. Of course you should be aware that if you report a bug to debian and any of the packages have 'dmo' in the name, you're shit out of luck getting it looked at. Official Debian recommends not to use deb.multimedia. It is not part of Debian. Yes but, in the past, some multimedia packages were not available in official deb repo. Recently, good news: I discovered many of these multimedia packages are now in Debian sid/testing repos. So I dont use any more 'deb-multimedia' repo. Avidemux is not available in Debian but official Avidemux appimage works fine http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html Greetings -- Maderios
Re: router solutions based on Debian?
On 11/23/2016 03:54 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: I've seen a lot of discussions about making DIY routers running a free OS like Debian, FreeBSD or OpenBSD and I was tempted to go with something like that running Shorewall, strongSwan, DHCP and DNS. Maybe it will also do wifi or maybe the existing router will be a bridge to wifi. Can anybody share any comments or links about this topic? Hi Good luck... https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWRT -- Maderios
[OT] Last Avidemux appimage
Hi Last Avidemux appimage is available for all Debian versions or any other Linux distro here. It works fine. https://www.fosshub.com/Avidemux.html/avidemux_2.6.15.appImage http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/news.html Greetings -- Maderios
Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?
On 10/31/2016 01:32 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 31 October 2016 11:57:45 Daniel Bareiro wrote: Hi, Lisi. On 31/10/16 08:07, Lisi Reisz wrote: "fit to page" function depends on printer driver settings, not printer software. You may change your cups/printer settings: http://localhost:631/ Where? In which section can you make the change you suggest? I remember and have set a setting for turning pages if necessary, but not one for fitting to printable area. Maybe it is a "lpr" option: https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html (See "Scaling to Fit") Thanks! That is helpful. If I hit the problem I'll look into doing it that way. Evince worked last time I needed it to do so, and people are saying that it still does. Lisi It depends on many paramaters, for example, postcript printer or not postscript. In my case, postscript printer, with applications like evince, firefox, etc..., printing works same way with CTRL+P, then choose -> page handling -> 'fit to printable area' or 'shrink...' or 'none...'. I think it is the same for non postscript. -- Maderios
Re: Alternative to Adobe Reader, anyone?
On 10/31/2016 02:01 AM, Doug wrote: What *doesn't* work :- Acrobat Reader: It does the 'fit to page' but the version I have (9.5.5) will not print a *single* copy of a file. If you ask it to print one copy, you get a popup with an lpr error message that you asked for zero copies. Ask for two copies, you get two copies... Okular: Prints single copies OK but doesn't have the 'fit to page' feature. Hi "fit to page" function depends on printer driver settings, not printer software. You may change your cups/printer settings: http://localhost:631/ Cheers (other good pdf viewer: Evince) -- Maderios
Re: Where is digikam?
On 11/09/2015 06:38 PM, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Hi, I see digikam in unstable for a very long time now. But it is not coming to testing. Why is that? Wasnt the push to testing supposed to be an automatic process? Or does digikam in unstable still have critical bugs? What is the reason for the delay? Matthias Hi 'Old' Digikam-4.4 is in Sid but uninstallable. Last Digikam 4.13 or 4.14 is uninstallable too, due to dependancies problem. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/digikam https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=pkg-kde-extras%40lists.alioth.debian.org New Digikam Qt5 based will be released next spring https://www.digikam.org/about/releaseplan https://www.digikam.org/download?q=download/GIT -- Maderios
Re: debian-user list problem
On 10/11/2015 11:58 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:43:11 maderios wrote: On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail. Lisi I tried aol, it's the same. So oyu are saying that the problem was that your own mails weren't coming back to you? I thought it was that the list mails in general weren't reaching you. ??? I don't understand what you mean... About list problem I report here precedently, it's solved, as I explained it yesterday. -- Maderios
Re: debian-user list problem
On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail. Lisi I tried aol, it's the same. -- Maderios
Solved_Re: debian-user list problem
On 10/11/2015 02:31 PM, maderios wrote: I could subscribe 'normaly' 3 minute ago to this list. I don't understand because I never unscribed myself. Only me (or my cat :) ) can use my computer... May be a bug? I hope it works now. Thanks to everybody Greetings Sorry for noise. I forgot 'Solved' Done -- Maderios
Re: debian-user list problem
On 10/11/2015 02:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 13:08:34 maderios wrote: On 10/11/2015 12:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. Sorry. Some details: I subscribed for many years to debian-user, debian-user-french, digikam-users, enlightenment-users. All works perfectly *now*, except for debian-user list since I posted this message some days ago. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html I try to understand what happens. I wonder if debian-user list considers me as a spammer. If it considered you a spammer, it would be *we* who do not get *your* emails, not the other way round. You are still subscribed. We are getting your emails. Perhaps *your* spam checker has decided that the Debian List is Spam. Have you checked? There doesn't seem to be a problem this end. It really must be your end. Lisi Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. Some of us are sending you personal copies in this thread to make sure that you get them. E.g I have with this one. Have you tried to re-subscribe as others have suggested? It's worth a try - I had forgotten that this list is not subscribers only, so your emails could reach us even if you were not subscribed. Lisi Hi I could subscribe 'normaly' 3 minute ago to this list. I don't understand because I never unscribed myself. Only me (or my cat :) ) can use my computer... May be a bug? I hope it works now. Thanks to everybody Greetings -- Maderios
Re: debian-user list problem
On 10/11/2015 12:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. Sorry. Some details: I subscribed for many years to debian-user, debian-user-french, digikam-users, enlightenment-users. All works perfectly *now*, except for debian-user list since I posted this message some days ago. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html I try to understand what happens. I wonder if debian-user list considers me as a spammer. If it considered you a spammer, it would be *we* who do not get *your* emails, not the other way round. You are still subscribed. We are getting your emails. Perhaps *your* spam checker has decided that the Debian List is Spam. Have you checked? There doesn't seem to be a problem this end. It really must be your end. Lisi Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. -- Maderios
Re: debian-user list problem
I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. Sorry. Some details: I subscribed for many years to debian-user, debian-user-french, digikam-users, enlightenment-users. All works perfectly *now*, except for debian-user list since I posted this message some days ago. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html I try to understand what happens. I wonder if debian-user list considers me as a spammer. -- Maderios
debian-user list problem
Hi I cannot receive anymore debian-user list messages since I posted this message: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html Yesterday, I posted a message to listmas...@lists.debian.org but I didn't get any answer. What can I do? Thanks for any help. Greetings -- Maderios
Can't reinstall all Jessie packages
Hi
I can't reinstall all Jessie packages this way
dpkg -l | awk '/^i/ {print $2}' |xargs apt-get --reinstall install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2792 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/1,700 MB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
E: Couldn't configure perl-base:amd64, probably a dependency cycle.
I get the same using
aptitude reinstall '~i'
But I can reinstall perl-base separately
If I hold perl-base, other packages like systemd-sysv,then install-info,
etc..., can't be configured too
I found an other way to reinstall all packages, one by one. It works but
it takes a very long time:
'for i in $(cat /root/DPKG/packages-list.txt); do apt-get install
--reinstall "$i"; done'
Any idea? Thanks
--
Maderios
Re: Dlna client and backup
Le 22/06/2015 20:30, Diogene Laerce a écrit : On 06/21/2015 11:20 PM, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 06/19/2015 11:13 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: If you look for a light dlna server, minidlna is the one. Good luck, Thanks for this, I'm running minidlna right now. It's nuts to think that there's no dlna client, just client by itself, for Linux. What? Woa! Tons for MPD, however, just not dlna. Am I missing something, looking for the wrong thing? Hi As often, it depends on what you need : I use minidlna because it is not focused on music but can play videos and pictures as well. It functions easily with TVs, where I can't decide of the client. I use Mediatomb for videos, music and pictures on TV . Very light too, easy to configure, many possibilities. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55887056.1090...@gmail.com
Re: Flash problems
On 12/16/2014 11:47 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: wget https://vandervlis.nl/files/libflashplayer.so 32-bits: wget https://vandervlis.nl/files/libflashplayer32.so mv libflashplayer32.so libflashplayer.so Warning This is an unknow link... :-( Official/safe files are here : https://get.adobe.com/fr/flashplayer/ -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54904ee2.6020...@gmail.com
Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd
On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Jessie isn't Debian. Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel joining Devuan... lol I've no problem with systemd (Sid), it works fine). I dont understand why some people complain about systemd. Devuan is not Mint or Ubuntu, I think it has no future and everyone will forget that systemd is new... -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/547f777d.7040...@gmail.com
Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd
Hi guys Not for me but interesting. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1MDQ -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/547d8aa7.2070...@gmail.com
Re: Debian fork
On 10/21/2014 12:39 PM, st wrote: goli...@riseup.net wrote: Just in case you haven't seen this elsewhere: http://debianfork.org/ Hi Fork comes from the same guy Original info (french, sorry) https://linuxfr.org/users/almin/journaux/un-fork-de-debian-a-cause-de-systemd Approximate translation: "Posted by Misc (personal page) on 20/10/14 at 5:16 So, as I am a curious guy, I wondered who is behind the fork. So I searched debianfork (after a shot whois and co, pointing to dyne.org a Debian variant for multimedia). And I fell on the draft of the site lab.dyne.org: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ig5xnArsuqwJ:https://lab.dyne.org/DebianFork+&cd=9&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a pointing to Jaromil as editor. The same Jaromil has a wikipedia article to his name. And who posted on twitter about the fork: https://twitter.com/jaromil and various calls to refuse systemd. A little research, we see that it has a dedicated linux distributions purify page: https://lab.dyne.org/GnuLinuxPurification " -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5446551e.4070...@gmail.com
Official Terminology deb package available now in Sid
Hi https://packages.debian.org/sid/terminology -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5440eba5.20...@gmail.com
Re: OT_Enlightenment Terminology-0.7 released
On 10/15/2014 08:53 AM, maderios wrote: To compile Terminology, install all Enlightenment + Efl dev libs packages, of course... I apologize: only EFL dev packages needing, not Enlightenment -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/543fb8a4.5060...@gmail.com
Re: OT_Enlightenment Terminology-0.7 released
On 10/14/2014 11:35 PM, John Aten wrote: Terminology work with full functionality (cat pictures, etc) on Debian without installing the whole Enlightenment window manager? For some reason, I didn't think this was the case. To compile Terminology, install all Enlightenment + Efl dev libs packages, of course... It works fine with Sid and Jessie On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:38 AM, maderios wrote: Hi Excellent terminal (oddly not available in Debian) named Terminology 0.7 just released http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/terminology/ https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/543e19fb.80...@gmail.com
OT_Enlightenment Terminology-0.7 released
Hi Excellent terminal (oddly not available in Debian) named Terminology 0.7 just released http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/terminology/ https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en Main changes: - Internationalization and Localization support - Configurable key bindings - Add a panel to launch elementary_config - Opacity level can be configured in translucent mode - Options -s/--split to start terminology with multiple splits - Add position indicator to the Miniview - Improve media controls - Use a scalable font on default configuration - Usual round of improvements on terminal compatibility - Fix issue with mute option - Various bug fixes -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/543d5182.6040...@gmail.com
Re: Debian and Enlightenment packages
On 10/01/2014 02:34 PM, John Holland wrote: It's a lot of work getting all the required libraries installed to build it. And then the various parts of E that depend on each other. For Debian packaging, may be it's true, but if you only compile and install (with Checkinstall) Efl, Elementary, other libraries and E, it's simple now. All dependencies and sources here https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/542c2798.1060...@gmail.com
Re: Debian and Enlightenment packages
On 09/30/2014 07:05 PM, John Holland wrote: I like Debian and Enlightenment and I have made packages of very recent E18, for Wheezy. They are available at vin-dit.org. The web page there gives the information for getting the GPG key and what to put in sources.list etc. You can also install the src debs if you want to examine before building. It took a bit of work to get it working on Wheezy and this might save you some of that effort. I just set out to do this and have no connection to the people doing it for Debian.org. I am interested in getting more involved with Debian the right way and I see now more of what that would require . However if you want E18 on Wheezy that is what I have. (I have only built for amd64.) I run this myself on several machines. I compiled too E17, 18, 19 with Wheezy, Jessie and Sid. It works! -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/542aed14.20...@gmail.com
Debian and Enlightenment packages
Hi Some questions/thought criticism not very optimistic about Debian, Enlightenment and EFL I discovered that Debian maintainers highlight an outdated Enlightenment page with an outdated version, the 18-RC2 dated December 2013 and presented as "A new upstream release" https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/e17 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/enlightenment-0.18.0-rc2.tar.gz In fact, right Enlightenment download page is here , with more advanced or stabilized packages: http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/ http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.18.8.tar.gz http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.19.0.tar.gz I don't really understand the process of Debian maintainers about Enlightenment packaging. Or rather, I begin to think Enlightenment doesn't interest many people or/and there is a lack of maintainers ... In addition, a bug report 760038 subsequently canceled by its author https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760038#25 "Yesterday I did a year apt-get dist-upgrade for Jessie All which fixed the problem." [---> Funny, there was no upgrade E17 upgrade..! ] led the Debian maintainers remove E17: "Marked for autoremoval on 12 October: 760,038" without rectify later https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/e17 I asked a question here enlightenment-us...@lists.sourceforge.net about the obsolescence of the page http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ I got answer from Carsten Haitzler, lead developer of the Enlightenment project : "it's not a web page. it's just a director in the filesystem is download.enlightenment.org - we are not the removal removing dir so as to not break old build scripts That May Rely on old releases fetching Where They Were. we Moved new releases to the rel / dir is download.enlightenment.org " #Message end It is therefore not a download page to use but it is presented as such by Debian: "A new upstream version is available: 0.18.0-rc2" https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/e17 -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/542a9dc7.2010...@gmail.com
Re: End of hypocrisy ?
On 07/21/2014 07:30 AM, Erwan David wrote: systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole systemd with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for policy-rc.d, etc..) is forced to users. It was said that we would have a choice. Were is the choice ? Hi Remember that Debian testing is just...testing, so not stable. You are not obligated to use it. You have the choice, Wheezy / stable works well. -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53cfab89.3060...@gmail.com
Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems
On 04/23/2014 06:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind Hi You need to edit only one file: /etc/default/grub Then update-grub and it works... -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53591316.5060...@gmail.com
Re: Best Mail Client
On 12/05/2013 06:01 PM, lostson wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:56 +0100, maderios wrote: Hi It depends what you need... Imap facilities (automatic updates, creating/deleting folders, emptying junk) are very important for me. I tested many mail clients, claws-mail, sylpheed, icedove/thunderbird, balsa, kmail, evolution, mutt, iceape. - the best is Icedove/Thunderbird. It works perfectly. - I like claws-mail too but it's very slow with Imap. It's ok with pop3. Evolution You like it, it's the most important ! -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52a0be32.9090...@gmail.com
Re: Best Mail Client
Hi It depends what you need... Imap facilities (automatic updates, creating/deleting folders, emptying junk) are very important for me. I tested many mail clients, claws-mail, sylpheed, icedove/thunderbird, balsa, kmail, evolution, mutt, iceape. - the best is Icedove/Thunderbird. It works perfectly. - I like claws-mail too but it's very slow with Imap. It's ok with pop3. -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52a0b02c.60...@gmail.com
Re: Reg: Mysql used instead of MariaDB
On 08/04/2013 05:51 PM, David Guntner wrote: maderios grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 08/04/2013 07:14 AM, Balamurugan wrote: Dear Team, I am a highly admired fan of free software movement and its philosophy. I am having a doubt in Debian 7.1 stable release about MySQL addition. Since MariaDB has become the open source replacement for MySQL, why was MariaDB not included in the latest release? Is there any reason behind? Since now MySQL is a part of Oracle, I believe we need to move towards MariaDB and support it fully. Hi I agree with you. I don't like to wait... I don't understand myself why Mariadb is not available in Debian. Opensuse, Fedora, Wikipedia migrated from Mysql to Mariadb, 100% free software. I downloaded and installed official .deb from Mariadb site. It works with Wheezy and Jessie, on my two PC. I use it with Digikam and Amarok. Mariadb works like Mysql, same commands. Installation keeps mysql-common and libmysqlclient18. If you're really keen on using it Right Now instead of waiting to see if they're going to include it as part of the Debian distribution at some point, the nice folks at MariaDB do have a package repository for Debian systems that you can add to your system and then you can use apt-get or whatever to install it. Their website provides instructions on how to do this. Hi About *I downloaded and installed official .deb from Mariadb site*, I have not been clear enough, sorry : I added official Mariadb .deb repository to download packages: deb http://mirrors.linsrv.net/mariadb/repo/5.5/debian wheezy main It works for Jessie too. Greetings -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51fe7c47.1020...@gmail.com
Re: Reg: Mysql used instead of MariaDB
On 08/04/2013 07:14 AM, Balamurugan wrote: Dear Team, I am a highly admired fan of free software movement and its philosophy. I am having a doubt in Debian 7.1 stable release about MySQL addition. Since MariaDB has become the open source replacement for MySQL, why was MariaDB not included in the latest release? Is there any reason behind? Since now MySQL is a part of Oracle, I believe we need to move towards MariaDB and support it fully. Hi I agree with you. I don't like to wait... I don't understand myself why Mariadb is not available in Debian. Opensuse, Fedora, Wikipedia migrated from Mysql to Mariadb, 100% free software. I downloaded and installed official .deb from Mariadb site. It works with Wheezy and Jessie, on my two PC. I use it with Digikam and Amarok. Mariadb works like Mysql, same commands. Installation keeps mysql-common and libmysqlclient18. Greetings -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51fe6274.80...@gmail.com
export vs. save_A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Gimp-2.8 Save/Export
On 07/27/2013 02:22 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: On 07/27/2013 04:04 AM, Dirk wrote: Hello, it has now been months that Gimp developers seem to have decided that their "product vision" in Gimp2.8 (debian/unstable) is more relevant than the workflow of their users. People who use Gimp *a lot* keep clicking "Save as" instead of "Export" because that is what they're used to. Because it is natural. If you think that it is trivial to make that workflow mistake over and over - then you are a casual Gimp user and can stop reading. If you use Google and search for "export save gimp" you can witness what happens when marketing takes over the development. The save vs. export change annoys me as well but I think staying with an older version is not the right approach because sooner or later you will miss new features (e.g. when operations can be computed on the GPU instead of CPU this will often mean a huge performace gain which will probably only be available to new versions or new file formats need to be imported properly). I rather try to get old behaviour back with a new version: An attempt could be editing the keyboard shortcuts: Export and Save keep being two different actions but when one (like me) saves as PNG in most cases, it does not hurt to swap the keyboard shortcuts for "Export" and "Save" to get the expected behaviour more often and only press CTRL-E with the (at least in my usecases) less often used XCF. The best solution, of course, is to join GIMP and add a configuration switch to re-enable universal "Save" and "Save as" but I do not know, if such a patch might be rejected due to the "marketing" mentioned above. Hi Plugin save-export-clean.py works well. Thanks to Akkana Peck. http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/14746-a-plug-in-for-those-who-still-don-t-like-the-new-save-export https://github.com/akkana/gimp-plugins Regards -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f4edd0.2080...@gmail.com
Re: IRQ conflict
On 04/29/2013 09:42 PM, Maxim Karpenko wrote:
Hi
I've also saw the same issue with my shared IRQs (and also IRQ was
shared with nvidia graphics card).
If you look in your dmesg, it suggests you to boot with "irqpoll" option.
As for me - this didn't help until I added also "noirqdebug".
After that I'm running already 6 days without problems and required
reboots (before that I had to reboot every day).
If this doesn't help, I also saw suggestions to boot with "noapic"
option (as non-preferred).
Important :
apic is essential
http://wiki.osdev.org/APIC
"APIC ("Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller") is the updated
Intel standard for the older PIC. It is used in multiprocessor systems
and is an integral part of all recent Intel (and compatible) processors.
The APIC is used for sophisticated interrupt redirection, and for
sending interrupts between processors. These things weren't possible
using the older PIC specification. "
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Re: IRQ conflict
On 04/29/2013 09:42 PM, Maxim Karpenko wrote: Hi I've also saw the same issue with my shared IRQs (and also IRQ was shared with nvidia graphics card). If you look in your dmesg, it suggests you to boot with "irqpoll" option. As for me - this didn't help until I added also "noirqdebug". After that I'm running already 6 days without problems and required reboots (before that I had to reboot every day). If this doesn't help, I also saw suggestions to boot with "noapic" option (as non-preferred). Hope, this will help you. Hi Thanks for your useful suggestions. I *temporarily* solved the problem by installing irqbalance package. I'll try 'irqpoll' or 'noapic' if the bug comes back. Best regards -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517f830c.9040...@gmail.com
IRQ conflict
Hi I installed recently RT Debian Wheezy kernel but the problem was the same two years ago with a non RT kernel (2.6) Message from syslogd@ at Apr 28 19:53:06 ... kernel:[18398.556575] Disabling IRQ #17 IRQ17 seems shared between firewire and sound hdmi nvidia graphics card. I see nothing in the bios that can be set, but at worst, disabling the firewire What can I do to resolve this IRQ conflict? Thanks in advance for your ideas cat /proc/interrupts 17: 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 IR-IO-APIC-fasteoi firewire_ohci, snd_hda_intel lshw-gtk Motherboard product: P8P67 PRO vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC. version: Rev 1.xx Audio device /0/100/1/0.1 product: GF108 High Definition Audio Controller [10DE:BEA] vendor: NVIDIA Corporation [10DE] bus info: pci@:01:00.1 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: Power Management, Message Signalled Interrupts, PCI Express, bus mastering, PCI capabilities listing configuration: driver: snd_hda_intel latency: 0 resources: irq: 17 memory: f708-f7083fff FireWire (IEEE 1394) /0/100/1c.6/0/3 product: VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller [1106:3044] vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc. [1106] bus info: pci@:07:03.0 version: c0 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: Power Management, Open Host Controller Interface, bus mastering, PCI capabilities listing configuration: driver: firewire_ohci latency: 32 maxlatency: 32 resources: irq: 17 memory: f721-f72107ff ioport: c000(size=128) -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517e75f8.9080...@gmail.com
Re: grey screen in googleearth
On 03/11/2013 04:22 AM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:29 PM, sp113438 wrote: Hello, I ran 'make-googleearth-package' and installed google-earth. Result: grey screen in the Google-earth window instead of the globe, map. My system: Squeeze amd64 nvidia-driver 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.32.run' kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 Google Earth about shows: Google Earth 6.0.3.2197 Build Date 5/13/2011 Build Time 5:16:07 pm Renderer OpenGL Operating System Linux (2.6.32.0) Video Driver NVIDIA Corporation Max Texture Size 8192x8192 Server kh.google.com Any ideas? If I recall correctly (from when I had an nvidia laptop) you might try installing the nvidia-glx-ia32 package. Hi I met the same problem : black screen in the Google-earth window instead of the globe map We can't run nvidia-driver 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.32.run driver with nvidia-glx-ia32 package and we must not try to do it. Then: When building nvidia driver, I said YES to the question 'install nvidia's 32-bit compatibility Opengl libraries'. 1) You have to dowlnoad last googleearth version (7) available on google site 2) dpkg --add-architecture i386 3) install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk 4) install googleearth It works for me (Wheezy) Greetings -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513dfc8b.70...@gmail.com
Digikam : correction de bug non prévue dans Wheezy
Bonjour Un bug persistant depuis des lustres affecte digikam 2.6 + mysql avec wheezy. Il est impossible de supprimer les tags que l'on crée. J'ai posté un message sur la liste digikam, aucune réponse. Ce bug n'est pas listé ici http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=digikam;dist=unstable http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi On peut se demander donc si ce bug est un bug J'ai essayé pas mal de choses dont mysqlcheck -p --auto-repair --all-databases J'ai tenté l'install de digikam experimental mais il veut désinstaller kipi-plugins, donc exit... Merci pour toute info, retour d'expérience... Amicalement -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50ffd52a.1010...@gmail.com
Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?
On 01/12/2013 12:07 PM, Johan Grönqvist wrote: 2013-01-12 11:26, maderios skrev: On 01/11/2013 09:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 11 ian 13, 10:56:22, maderios wrote: Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 600 ^ I don't think this is a good idea. Maybe 100, but definitely nothing bigger. Why ? With priority up to 100, the packages from experimental will not be upgraded with a normal upgrade command, but the packages will need explicit upgrade requests. As packages from experimental are experimental and may break your system without warning, requiring you to explicitly request upgrades of such packages seems like a good idea to me. I agree with you. I never tried to install system packages from experimental. Too dangerous. In the past, I tried to install experimental digikam but it didn't work... When I need some programs or libraries (Ex Bullet) I prefer to compile myself and install with checkinstall. It works well. Best regards. -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50f14acd.4090...@gmail.com
Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?
On 01/11/2013 09:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 11 ian 13, 10:56:22, maderios wrote: Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 600 ^ I don't think this is a good idea. Maybe 100, but definitely nothing bigger. Why ? Best regards -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50f13a55.7030...@gmail.com
Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?
On 01/11/2013 08:30 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 08 ian 13, 17:20:37, J B wrote: Hello, Since long new packages are not coming in wheezy. As it is in frozen state. Does anyone has any idea when can we get new versions again ? Probably never. Wheezy will only get security and major bug fixes until its end of life. If you need newer versions some package managers are uploading to experimental (in order not to disturb the release). New packages are in Sid. For example, Horde5 (php-horde) Create and edit /etc/apt/preferences file Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 800 Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 600 It works with synaptic package -> force version Greetings -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50efe1c6.3000...@gmail.com
Re: wheezy freeze
On 12/17/2012 02:58 PM, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Here are some solutions: _ Use unstable/experimental _ Try a rolling-release distro The freeze is needed to create a stable version. I know, I use Testing since it exists. Though, freeze is much too long and thus 'five attributes duu' anew whenever Debian changes release, since years and years and years. And if you mean Ubuntu as rolling-release distro - I have tried it and do not like it. Sorry. You may try Mint, debian/ubuntu based distribution. Two versions, stable or less stable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint http://www.linuxmint.com/index.php Greetings -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50cf4eee.3080...@gmail.com
Re: HS bookmarks iceweasel_firefox dans db mysql
On 12/14/2012 04:04 PM, Thore wrote: Am 14.12.2012 16:02, schrieb maderios: Bonjour C'est un rêve ancien, un peu désespéré mais tant pis... Je cherche un moyen de remplacer sqlite par mysql pour stocker et utiliser les signets de firefox. Pourquoi donc ? Parce que sqlite rame quand il y a beaucoup de données/signets, c'est mon cas Parce que mysql est plus rapide que sqlite et demande moins de ressouces/accès disque Parce que j'ai déjà mysql Merci pour toute idée Amicalement Hello, this is the international english list. There is an special french list ;-) Hi Sorry for the mistake Greetings -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50cb42cc.4020...@gmail.com
HS bookmarks iceweasel_firefox dans db mysql
Bonjour C'est un rêve ancien, un peu désespéré mais tant pis... Je cherche un moyen de remplacer sqlite par mysql pour stocker et utiliser les signets de firefox. Pourquoi donc ? Parce que sqlite rame quand il y a beaucoup de données/signets, c'est mon cas Parce que mysql est plus rapide que sqlite et demande moins de ressouces/accès disque Parce que j'ai déjà mysql Merci pour toute idée Amicalement -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50cb3f88.4080...@gmail.com
Re: Compile kernel 3.6.3 for i7
On 10/21/2012 09:32 PM, Dan wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM, maderios wrote: On 10/21/2012 09:05 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, I am using Wheezy but I need to compile the kernel in order to use the version 3.6.3 because the kernel 3.2 crashes with the intel HD 4000. I am using an Intel Core i7. Should I compile the kernel for the processor "Generic-x86-64" or for the "Core 2/newer Xeon" I am using an Intel Core i7 too I compile kernels with 'Core 2/newer Xeon' But when I take a look to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors The i7 does not seem to be in the family of the Core 2 or the Xeon. Probably this basic stuff but I am confused with so many families of processors... 'Core 2/ NEWER Xeon' => core 2 or newer => or xeon Anyway, it works for me Greetings -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50845409.5010...@gmail.com
Re: Compile kernel 3.6.3 for i7
On 10/21/2012 09:05 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, I am using Wheezy but I need to compile the kernel in order to use the version 3.6.3 because the kernel 3.2 crashes with the intel HD 4000. I am using an Intel Core i7. Should I compile the kernel for the processor "Generic-x86-64" or for the "Core 2/newer Xeon" I am using an Intel Core i7 too I compile kernels with 'Core 2/newer Xeon' Greetings -- Maderios "Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures." "L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50844a25.60...@gmail.com
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
On 09/10/2012 08:28 PM, Tom Rausner wrote: Hi Folks. I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem. It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk) to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors. I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing and get a Debian install to work on it ? Hi I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy and sid. "UEFI" changes nothing. Greetings -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f4d56.2040...@gmail.com
Re: [RÉSOLU] Re: Plus de son sauf en root depuis mise à jour
On 08/24/2012 11:13 AM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: maderios a écrit : On 08/23/2012 09:23 PM, BERTRAND Joel wrote: Bon, j'ai trouvé quelqu'un qui avait le même problème que moi. La solution est assez simple et ce n'est pas une histoire de droits. Je me suis déconnecté de la session graphique, j'ai effacé du compte qui dysfonctionnait ~/.pulse et ~/.pulse-cookie Quand je vous disais que pulse n'apporte que des ennuis . Ce n'est pas le problème. Quand on maintient un parc, on fait avec les outils standard. Si pulseaudio arrive en standard, on essaie de le garder sous peine de devoir commencer à faire des choses absconses à la main. Que nenni Je n'ai rien configuré à la main pour faire marcher Alsa chez moi. Pulseaudio n'est qu'un serveur de son parmi d'autres, en option. Libre à chacun de l'installer ou pas. Mon avis personnel: pulseaudio n'est pas fiable, même si certains disent que ses erreurs de jeunesse ont été corrigées. Alsa se suffit à lui même, sauf pour le réseau. Dans ce dernier cas, il y a Jack + Jacktrip. Cordialement -- Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50375143.7080...@gmail.com
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 08/15/2012 12:22 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:32:10 +0200, maderios wrote: This new Gimp's behaviour is not a bug but a (weird) developper's choice Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think they're wrong or simply badly put. That's when you can open a "wishlist" bug report to politely ask for a review of the default settings. In message http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg00713.html I posted this link: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-understanding-ui-changes That explains the changes fairly well. Also this is makes an interesting point: (regarding Linux and choice) http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html Hi Yes, I thought at first that we could arrange the problem and recoverer "a normal situation", that of gimp-2.6 and other text/picture editors, with reassigning shortcuts. I tried everything. Impossible. The problem is not some "hate" or some adaptation to new behavior. Gimp 2.8 is not unusable for me. It may be usable by non professional people. This not my case. So back to 2.6 version Regards Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502b7406.7020...@gmail.com
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 08/13/2012 04:18 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:44:38 +0200, maderios wrote: It's annoying but you will get more results (if any) by reporting it to the right places. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html I meant GNOME's bugzilla where bugs are triaged and fixed (well, sometimes) ;-) Greetings, This new Gimp's behaviour is not a bug but a (weird) developper's choice Best regards Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50291dfa.1020...@gmail.com
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
It's annoying but you will get more results (if any) by reporting it to the right places. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502815b6.9030...@gmail.com
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same and we need to use export nowadays. "Save" and "save as" are different Save= save the same file (same name) after modifying this file Ex1: I open house.png, I change contrast, luminosity then I save it I use only one key to do it: "s" It takes 1/5 second Save as= save this file with another name, another extension Ex2: I open house.png, I change contrast, luminosity, I delete some details I don't like with rubber then save it under another name like house-2 because it's a different version. I use only one key to save it under "house-2.png": "u" Ex3: I open house.png. I need .xcf version to build a new image with layers, etc. I use only one key to save it under "house.xcf": "u" Very quick and simple For me, "export" word is useless and confusing. Export to what? To jpeg, png, xcf, tiff ? It depends on the file where you start. You could start with a jpeg and want to export to .xcf, or the contrary "Save as" function is clear: only one key to use and you change only the extension or file name. It's the gimp-2.6 behavior. Regards M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5026c1f8.5090...@gmail.com
Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
Hi I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the functions "save" and "save as", indifferently on .png. xcf or .jpeg. To this end, I set two keyboard shortcuts with one finger: save=s and save as=u. So I can save lot of time. With version 2.8 , it's impossible . I'm professional. My job is to work on images and I can't lost my time. Sorry... So back to Gimp-2.6. I compiled it on Debian Testing/Wheezy (after downgrading gegl and babl) and it works well. This is very annoying. It would be nice to recover ergonomics and traditional functions "save" and "save as" in Gimp-2.8. At least give the user the choice Thanks for your work. Best regards Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5026a2af.1040...@gmail.com
Re: Kernel Compiling from scratch
On 01/25/2012 09:21 PM, Syed Hasan Atizaz wrote: I am able to compile the kernel for i386, however no initial ram disk image is created, i did with the help of mkinitramfs though it was empty, still unable to boot. You need both make-kpkg and initramfs-tools Then: make-kpkg kernel_image --initrd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f21584c.60...@gmail.com
Re: /dev/usb/lp0 disappeared after upgrade
On 07/17/2011 11:39 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: I recently did a big upgrade on Sid after a year. This seemed to go off OK but now I cannot print from my usb printer. I get 'Cannot open /dev/usb/lp0 -No such file or directory' My scanner, also usb, does work. lsusb does not show the printer, even after rebooting. Googling shows some peopls with similar errors but nothing helpful. I suspect udev may be at fault but not sure how to fix it. Any suggestions? Hi You can try MAKEDEV "MAKEDEV is a script that will create the devices in /dev used to inter‐ face with drivers in the kernel." To recover your /dev/* MAKEDEV generic Greetings Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e22b145.7060...@gmail.com
Re: kernel compile error in wheezy
On 07/16/2011 08:19 PM, Frank Miles wrote: I just tried compiling the kernel for My 'wheezy' system (2.6.39) [amd64]. As I've done many times - using make-kpkg --revision N kernel_image Hi For my part: make-kpkg kernel_image --initrd and it works. greetings Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e22afd4.4010...@gmail.com
Re: X bother consoles
On 06/23/2011 04:49 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:48:29 +0200, maderios wrote: On 06/22/2011 01:40 PM, Camaleón wrote: When you disabled KMS, what driver was loading the X server? "Nouveau" driver Are you sure? AFAIK, nouveau does not work with KMS disabled :-? May be I'm wrong and I used vesa instead, I can't remember . Normally, Nouveau can be disabled http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#nVidia_GfxCards Anyway, Nouveau works with framebuffer. This changes everything for the console. I dont want to use Nouveau: very poor performance, it works very badly with Wheezy. Yes, KMS can be disabled (and so nouveau) but after that, you should get the VESA driver (unless "nv" is still available) or "fb". KMS is a requirement to use nouveau, or so it says here: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Does Matrox provide an open source driver? If no, have you contacted them to update it? Me& many users contacted Matrox. They dont'care http://forum.tuxx-home.at/viewforum.php?f=2 Then better discard Matrox as an option for linux, they deserve it>:-) They don't want to sale their new cards Free matrox driver (mga) works well with "G" Matrox series. The problem is present with vesa, nouveau, nvidia and matrox... Err... sir, you said that nouveau did work, can you clarify that? It works or it doesn't work? Explanation: Nouveau can use framebuffer, others drivers don't use framebuffer. But framebuffer (fb) is not a nouveau thingy. Radeon and intel drivers can make use of it, too. My monitor is a LCD (EIZO SX2462W). I tested with another monitor, an old CRT and I got same problem. This is not a display problem, I guess, but a driver issue. May be it's a problem with sandy bridge support. I got other new problems since I changed hardware: - irq conflict (I had to disable firewire to eliminate the bug) - problem with usb keyboard before booting with grub menu interface after changing kernel: no key board, I have to do one or several "reset" to recover keyboard. Those problems seems to be totally unrelated with the messing of the console. But the main problem here is that you can't open a bug report for nvidia closed drivers... well, you can, but I guess it will be ignored. So your only chance is by testing with another driver version and see how it goes (if you don't want to break you current system, you can test a different set of driver from a LiveCDs). Vesa driver I used with 2 different graphic cards is also affected by the bug on my new HW. With my old HW, all was fine (as vesa can work) when I used this driver, so I don't think this bug may come from closed nvidia driver. Perhaps, recent sandy bridge platform is not well supported by linux, right now ? Thanks for your answers Greetings Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e0370bb.1060...@gmail.com
Re: X bother consoles
On 06/22/2011 01:40 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:12:41 +0200, maderios wrote: On 06/21/2011 04:00 PM, Camaleón wrote: When you disabled KMS, what driver was loading the X server? "Nouveau" driver Are you sure? AFAIK, nouveau does not work with KMS disabled :-? May be I'm wrong and I used vesa instead, I can't remember . Normally, Nouveau can be disabled http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#nVidia_GfxCards Anyway, Nouveau works with framebuffer. This changes everything for the console. I dont want to use Nouveau: very poor performance, it works very badly with Wheezy. As I said above, I tested also with a Matrox P690 PCIe (+vesa driver) Why vesa? Matrox cards should have their own set of X drivers. The P690 matrox driver story is an old and famous story ... Matrox provided out of date (2009 may) driver source on his site. It doesnt work with recent kernels. Does Matrox provide an open source driver? If no, have you contacted them to update it? Me & many users contacted Matrox. They dont'care http://forum.tuxx-home.at/viewforum.php?f=2 Mga driver (free matrox driver) worked perfectly with my old G550/AGP Matrox card + "old" motherboard. I changed this hardware and the problems came.. New hardware: MB sandy bridge + Intel Core I7 + GC nvidia quadro 600 Of course, a new VGA card with no updated/available drivers lead you to VESA. But that's Matrox fault. graphic card and I got exactly same display problem => the problem is not with the nvidia driver The problem can be present with both, vesa and nvidia. The problem is present with vesa, nouveau, nvidia and matrox... Err... sir, you said that nouveau did work, can you clarify that? It works or it doesn't work? Explanation: Nouveau can use framebuffer, others drivers don't use framebuffer. And we are talking here about "drivers" not "cards" so what we have is that vesa and nvidia fails, right? My monitor is a LCD (EIZO SX2462W). I tested with another monitor, an old CRT and I got same problem. This is not a display problem, I guess, but a driver issue. May be it's a problem with sandy bridge support. I got other new problems since I changed hardware: - irq conflict (I had to disable firewire to eliminate the bug) - problem with usb keyboard before booting with grub menu interface after changing kernel: no key board, I have to do one or several "reset" to recover keyboard. And provided that you need to use the nvidia closed drivers, I would put all the efforts in making this working, that is, try with another driver version (if you have the latest and greatest downgrade to another release, while if you are using Debian's version, try with the latest one, from nvidia site). Nothing useful at logs? The syslog seems "normal", no error message May be something wrong at the end of the Xorg.0.log with Wheezy ? With Squeeze, I got the same message "ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event" (...) That message seems to come from the DisplayPort of your monitor, I think it can be omitted for this matter. In the meantime, you can open a bug report for the VESA driver, with this one you should not experiment any console messing. Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e03361d.5090...@gmail.com
Re: X bother consoles
On 06/21/2011 08:04 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 20 iun 11, 20:33:08, maderios wrote: Hi After changing my hardware, a curious problem appeared with Wheezy and Squeeze. When starting X from a console, the space of the other consoles seem "zoomed": the bottom of the console is not visible but I can always return the data from the keyboard, "blindly". The command 'setupcon' restores the normal console but when I restart X, console is disturbed again. The graphic card is a Nvidia Quadro600 so I tested kernel mode setting with the driver 'Nouveau': no problem. The console doesnt seem disturbed because of the framebuffer . By cons, as I have not intend to use Nouveau driver, I would like consoles back normal. I tested also with another graphics card (MatroxP690, vesa driver), same problem. I dont understand how X server can change the consoles display. Thank you for any help, ideas / suggestions on this oddity. Maderios Please try this: at the grub prompt press 'e' (like wanting to edit an entry) and then Ctrl-X (proceed with the boot) and then try to reproduce the bug. Regards, Andrei Hi I tried this and I got the same bug. Important: I always disable graphical grub interface. I only use Grub menu. Greetings Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e00fd04.4060...@gmail.com
Re: X bother consoles
On 06/21/2011 04:00 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:37:21 +0200, maderios wrote: On 06/21/2011 01:27 PM, Camaleón wrote: I would be nice that you tell us what piece of hardware did you change. I can guess it's the VGA card but it can be a fan or your sata dvd recorder, who knows :-P I changed everything (P8P67 motherboard, Intel CoreI7, ) except keyboard, mouse and screen Oh... more items than I thought. You mean that nouveau driver works fine? It works fine with KMS, but it doesnt when KMS is disabled. When you disabled KMS, what driver was loading the X server? "Nouveau" driver So let's recap. You want to use nvidia closed driver and get it to work on terminal consoles, right? As you already have found the culprit (nvidia driver) and given that this closed driver is completey up to nvidia, I would start by using the most up-to-date version (275.09.07) and search in Google about similar cases, like these, to find a possible workaround: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45929/virtual-terminals-messed-up-with-proprietary-nvidia-graphics-driver Giving a whirl to Xorg logs may also help. As I said above, I tested also with a Matrox P690 PCIe (+vesa driver) Why vesa? Matrox cards should have their own set of X drivers. The P690 matrox driver story is an old and famous story ... Matrox provided out of date (2009 may) driver source on his site. It doesnt work with recent kernels. Mga driver (free matrox driver) worked perfectly with my old G550/AGP Matrox card + "old" motherboard. I changed this hardware and the problems came.. New hardware: MB sandy bridge + Intel Core I7 + GC nvidia quadro 600 graphic card and I got exactly same display problem => the problem is not with the nvidia driver The problem can be present with both, vesa and nvidia. The problem is present with vesa, nouveau, nvidia and matrox... My monitor is a LCD (EIZO SX2462W). I tested with another monitor, an old CRT and I got same problem. Nothing useful at logs? The syslog seems "normal", no error message May be something wrong at the end of the Xorg.0.log with Wheezy ? With Squeeze, I got the same message "ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event" 99.915] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2/2-1.2:1.1/input/input5/event5" [99.915] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) [99.915] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" [99.915] (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev" [99.915] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "fr" [99.915] (**) Option "xkb_variant" "oss" [99.915] (EE) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: failed to initialize for relative axes. [99.915] (II) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: initialized for absolute axes. [99.915] (**) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 [99.915] (**) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: (accel) acceleration profile 0 [99.915] (**) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 [99.915] (**) Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 [99.916] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker (/dev/input/event3) [99.916] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 104.015] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Eizo SX2462W (DFP-2): Failed to set DisplayPort power state [ 18285.080] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select" [ 18285.108] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Eizo SX2462W (DFP-2): Failed to set DisplayPort power state [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): configuration option may not be set correctly. When the [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications. For [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X [ 18285.212] (II) NVIDIA(0): Config Options in the README. [ 29821.023] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select" [ 29821.054] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Eizo SX2462W (DFP-2): Failed to set DisplayPort power state [ 29821.164] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon [ 29821.164] (II) NVIDIA(0): may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X [ 29821.164] (II) NVIDIA(0): configuration option may not be set correctly. When the [ 29821.164] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will [ 29821.164] (II) NVIDIA(0): try t
Re: X bother consoles
On 06/21/2011 01:27 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:33:08 +0200, maderios wrote: After changing my hardware, a curious problem appeared with Wheezy and Squeeze. I would be nice that you tell us what piece of hardware did you change. I can guess it's the VGA card but it can be a fan or your sata dvd recorder, who knows :-P Hi I changed everything (P8P67 motherboard, Intel CoreI7, ) except keyboard, mouse and screen When starting X from a console, the space of the other consoles seem "zoomed": the bottom of the console is not visible but I can always return the data from the keyboard, "blindly". The command 'setupcon' restores the normal console but when I restart X, console is disturbed again. The graphic card is a Nvidia Quadro600 so I tested kernel mode setting with the driver 'Nouveau': no problem. You mean that nouveau driver works fine? It works fine with KMS, but it doesnt when KMS is disabled. The console doesnt seem disturbed because of the framebuffer . By cons, as I have not intend to use Nouveau driver, I would like consoles back normal. I tested also with another graphics card (MatroxP690, vesa driver), same problem. I dont understand how X server can change the consoles display. Whatever X driver is in use it takes control of it, for the good and the bad :-( Thank you for any help, ideas / suggestions on this oddity. Maderios So let's recap. You want to use nvidia closed driver and get it to work on terminal consoles, right? As you already have found the culprit (nvidia driver) and given that this closed driver is completey up to nvidia, I would start by using the most up-to-date version (275.09.07) and search in Google about similar cases, like these, to find a possible workaround: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45929/virtual-terminals-messed-up-with-proprietary-nvidia-graphics-driver Giving a whirl to Xorg logs may also help. Greetings, As I said above, I tested also with a Matrox P690 PCIe (+vesa driver) graphic card and I got exactly same display problem => the problem is not with the nvidia driver Greatings Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e009e91.9070...@gmail.com
X bother consoles
Hi After changing my hardware, a curious problem appeared with Wheezy and Squeeze. When starting X from a console, the space of the other consoles seem "zoomed": the bottom of the console is not visible but I can always return the data from the keyboard, "blindly". The command 'setupcon' restores the normal console but when I restart X, console is disturbed again. The graphic card is a Nvidia Quadro600 so I tested kernel mode setting with the driver 'Nouveau': no problem. The console doesnt seem disturbed because of the framebuffer . By cons, as I have not intend to use Nouveau driver, I would like consoles back normal. I tested also with another graphics card (MatroxP690, vesa driver), same problem. I dont understand how X server can change the consoles display. Thank you for any help, ideas / suggestions on this oddity. Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dff9264.7010...@gmail.com
Re: udev bug in Wheezy
On 06/03/2011 10:42 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:05:57PM +0200, maderios wrote: I discover I've no /run directory in my Wheezy. /run support hasn't migrated to testing yet, so this is expected. Regards, Roger Strange I got /run support this way: debootstrap wheezy ./ http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de95669.2060...@gmail.com
Re: udev bug in Wheezy
On 06/01/2011 12:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:27:24 +0200, maderios wrote: On 05/30/2011 10:01 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 21:37:14 +0200, maderios wrote: I first sent this message in french language, sorry for my mistake I tried for the umpteenth time to return to Wheezy but I still have this problem with udev, which slows down the machine. The boot log shows that there is a problem. And the problem is...? What does the boot log say? :-) Hi I sent the log in attachment.. True! Sorry, I somehow missed it. Am I the only one concerned? I doubt it .. How are things going with you? Is there a solution? Thank's for any help PS: udev does not appear in the log of the boot of Squeeze and the machine is not slowed down at all You will have to provide more data. I'm with Wheezy and have no problems nor had noticed any regression (slow down) when booting :-? I think my last message was rejected as spam, so I post it again. My hardware is recent (sandy bridge) The machine is not not slowed down on the boot but later, when using Digikam for example. I've no udev problem with Squeeze. You mean it becomes slow when you connect your camera and open Digikam or just becomes irresponsive as soon as you open the application? I posted the boot log /var/log/boot here: http://pastebin.com/v8AsbG96 Wow... udev is very verbose. There are some warnings printed out but I don't think they're fatal. Besides the verbosity I see no other errors, but maybe it's worth reporting. Anyway, it is not clear to me the relation you see between udevd messages at boot and the slowness you experience later :-? Greetings, Hi I discover I've no /run directory in my Wheezy. I installed my first Debian 11 or 12 years ago (it was a "Potatoe") and then I updated every year. Squeeze has no /run directory for udev and the update from Squeeze to Wheezy didnt create /run. I thought it's time to install a new Debian/Wheezy. It's done (with Debootstrap). Now, I've no problem with udev but with nvidia driver. Trivial problem, routine . Thanks for your answer Greetings Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de92285.9030...@gmail.com
Re: udev bug in Wheezy
On 05/30/2011 10:01 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 21:37:14 +0200, maderios wrote: I first sent this message in french language, sorry for my mistake I tried for the umpteenth time to return to Wheezy but I still have this problem with udev, which slows down the machine. The boot log shows that there is a problem. And the problem is...? What does the boot log say? :-) Hi I sent the log in attachment.. Am I the only one concerned? I doubt it .. How are things going with you? Is there a solution? Thank's for any help PS: udev does not appear in the log of the boot of Squeeze and the machine is not slowed down at all You will have to provide more data. I'm with Wheezy and have no problems nor had noticed any regression (slow down) when booting :-? Greetings, Hi I think my last message was rejected as spam, so I post it again. My hardware is recent (sandy bridge) The machine is not not slowed down on the boot but later, when using Digikam for example. I've no udev problem with Squeeze. I posted the boot log /var/log/boot here: http://pastebin.com/v8AsbG96 Maderios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de605fc.2020...@gmail.com
udev bug in Wheezy
Hi I first sent this message in french language, sorry for my mistake I tried for the umpteenth time to return to Wheezy but I still have this problem with udev, which slows down the machine. The boot log shows that there is a problem. Am I the only one concerned? I doubt it .. How are things going with you? Is there a solution? Thank's for any help PS: udev does not appear in the log of the boot of Squeeze and the machine is not slowed down at all M boot-udev.bz2 Description: application/bzip
bug udev avec Wheezy
Bonsoir Je ne sais pas si cela vous arrive mais j'ai tenté pour la énième fois de revenir à Wheezy et pan, toujours ce problème avec udev qui ralentit la machine. Dans le log de boot on voit qu'il y a un problème. Suis je le seul concerné ? J'en doute.. Comment cela se passe chez vous ? Existe il une solution ? Merci pour toute info PS: udev n'apparaît pas dans le log du boot de Squeeze et la machine est "normalement" performante. M boot-udev.bz2 Description: application/bzip
X and console problems
Hi After changing my hardware I got problem that seems coming from X server (Squeeze Debian / stable). When I stop X session, consoles are useless. The cursor is blinking. When I type a command, it does not appear but if I hit 'enter ', it is launched. So, I can restart X or MC for example. If I want to get a normal console as root, I have to reconnect as root on a new console that becomes unusable after relaunching X. If I'm not running X after boot, consoles work normally. May be helpful: when I exit X, I get this message on console: 'setting MTRR (base = 0xd000, size = 0x100, type = 1 invalid argument (22)' Another problem: when I activate xscreensaver (with xset for example), I lose monitor signal (Message: "no signal, check input signal") with X and I have to go through the console with F7 or F8 to get X. My Matrox P690 graphics card doesn't not with the driver (MTX) from Matrox, so I start X with the vesa driver without xorg.conf, waiting to resolve the Matrox problem (Matrox driver (mtx) for P690 is out of date and is not free.). Thanks for any help. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da827f6.3080...@gmail.com
Re: Squeeze release date according to distrowatch
On 02/05/2011 01:10 PM, Rémi Letot wrote: Mark Panen writes: Hi, A few days ago i read on distrowatch that squeeze will be released on the 6h Feb, can't find the article now again. Is this true? Happening right now: http://identi.ca/debian Hi http://planet.debian.net/ http://news.debian.net/ http://twitter.com/#!/search/debian M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d4d9a0a.3030...@gmail.com
