Newbie Printing Question

[Michael Pereira]

Hi everyone, I just installed debian (woody) and would like to know how
to set up printing on my box. I have an Epson Stylus Color 600 printer,
what are the steps to configure my box to print.

Thx

Michael



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CUPS Printing & SMC Router

[Michael Pereira]

I have an SMC7004ABR router acting as a print server, and I have CUPS
installed. I can't seem to print to my printer. Here are the
steps/questions that CUPS asks me when I add a printer:

Page1
--
Name:
Location:
Description:


Page2
--
Device:

Page3
--
Device URI:


Can someone help me out. I'm not sure how to answer the about
steps/questions. My router is on 192.168.2.1 and my printer is an Epson
Stylus Color 600. I have Debian (woody) installed with KDE3. When I try
to print a test page it fails....

Thx

Michael



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compile one kernel module

[Michael West]

 I is possible to compile just a single kernel module and copy it to
 /lib/modules by hand and have it work?

 Sometimes with new hardware I end up trial and error compiling to
 see what will work.  Just doing a `make modules modules_install`
 works, but it would be nice to have to recompile everything to get a 
 single module added.

 How would I go about this?




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Simple bandwidth limiting examples?

[Michael Jinks]

Hi all.

debian.uchicago.edu has angered the local network admins by being too
much of a bandwidth hog, and it's time to throttle it.  I'm reading up
on tc(8) and friends, but this tool is a lot more powerful and flexible
than I need it to be, and so are all the examples I can find (for
example see http://defiant.coinet.com/iproute2/Linux-ANO/node48.html).

I don't really have time to become an expert in traffic shaping.  I've
been given a limit for this machine from the networking guys, and I just
want to slap on one rule that says, in effect, "don't send more than N
packets per second[0] off campus" while leaving on-campus traffic
unrestricted.  I suspect that I'll end up using one or two very simple
tc commands, but right now it looks like I'll have to read a lot and
experiment for days before I figure out what they are.

[0] the limit from networking is actually expressed per month, but I
figure I'll have to write the rule in terms of seconds, for whatever
that's worth.

Can anyone recommend a site that covers traffic control from a more
down-to-earth perspective?  Or is anyone running a server that limits
its own bandwidth, and willing to share your configs for comparison?

Thanks,
-mrj
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Re: Simple bandwidth limiting examples?

[Michael Jinks]

On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 11:52:21AM -0500, Jamin W.Collins wrote:
> 
> Looks like section 15.9 in the HOWTO at http://lartc.org/ covers just what
> you want to do.  Looks like they provide a quick example of how to do it.

That's just the thing.  Thanks!

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Re: Simple bandwidth limiting examples?

[Michael Jinks]

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 08:50:05AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > 
> > You can go to Google, and look for "cbq.init".
> 
> No need to google - it's in the shaper package.

Really?  dpkg -L doesn't see it... (shaper version 2.2.12-0.6.2-5,
installed on woody).

I do find it here, FWIW:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/cbqinit

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Mouse Problems On Install

[Michael Burke]

I am brand new to Debian and spent the weekend trying to get it to work.

I must admit that I am incredibly impressed with the quality of the code 
and general ease of install. I have preformed two installations now, the 
first also had the same mouse problem that I have after the second install. 
The basic system is running, several network applications are running and 
X-Windows is working, albeit via keyboard keys. While the code and 
installation procedures are very complete and functional, the documentation 
is a little understated at the present time. At least it is for a newbie.

The problem is that the mouse does not work in X-Windows. It didn't work 
during the install process either. The mouse hardware is functional. The 
system that I am using was running WindowsNT Server until Saturday morning 
without any hardware problems or history of problems.

The mouse is a LogiTech model with only 2 buttons. I have seen several 
references to pull-down menus used to select the mouse type, but I have 
failed to find any of these.

In my research I have found many references to mouse/pointer configuration 
problems. One test that was suggested was to test the hardware from a 
console window. A "cat /dev/ttyS0" did nothing as I moved the mouse. A "cat 
/dev/psaux" echoed characters on the screen in reaction to mouse movements. 
I assumed that meant the hardware was working an the correct device is 
/dev/psaux.

Several people have mentioned in other helpful posts that the file 
XF86Config-4 needs to be changed. Currently, the configuration is as follows:

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "CorePointer"
 Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
 Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
 Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
 Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
#   Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
 Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
 Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
 Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
 Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Obviously, I like others, questioned why there was two mouse entries and 
how they should differ. In any case, the file defines the mouse as above. I 
commented out the /dev/input/mice entry since that device does not exist.

My first installation defaulted to the KDE environment and I changed the 
second installation to use Gnome. Both seem useable and I don't really care 
which is used. (My reason for doing this entire exercise is to get a more 
stable OpenSSL Apache server - it is available for WindowsNT but not 
supported and I have experienced crashes frequently - something that Apache 
generally does not do on any of our WindowsNT Servers.)

Several people have indicated that the solution for a problem like mine is 
to be had via:

"make your mouse device in XF86Config-4 /dev/gpmdata, and in /etc/gpm.conf 
make sure that repeat_type=raw"

This is all very well, except, I have no idea what gpm is or where to find 
it. I do have gDm running and I have even created a file /etc/gdm.conf but 
that does not solve my problem. There is no process called gpm running on 
the system, although there is a process called gdm.

I am sure I am doing something very silly or I am being very stupid, but I 
can't fathom how a complicated system as I have just installed all seems to 
work mostly without flaw (at least nothing I can see) and yet a very basic 
function that has been child's play on almost every Windows system since 
1994 fails on this software so miserably. My mind could cope with this 
working and the more complicated functions (I have been web surfing with 
Mozilla - using a keyboard only - without any problems) having problems.

Please help me find my way. Two days have been lost on this.

(While I am new at Debian and Linux, I have 36 years of working computer 
background that includes IBM MFT/MVS, IBM VM/CMS and UNIX III up to UNIX 
Sys V (ATT) and some BSD and SUN/OS. The solution is not clear.)

Thank you in advance for your consideration and assistance.



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RE: Setting-up CDRW

[Michael Olds]

Oops! I see I resonded only to Bob:

Hello, and thank you all for these clues. This is just to let you know that
I can't get to this until later this afternoon. I will report back with
results.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW


I just did this again last evening on a new machine and it was loads
easier than i remembered it being.

I'm using kernel 2.4.19-k7 with both an ide cdrom and an ide-scsi
cdrw.

i added this line to /etc/fstab:

/dev/scd0   /cdrw   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0

my /etc/modules includes this:

options ide-cd ignore=hdd
ide-scsi

hth

bob



On Tuesday 17 September 2002 07:50, Burkhard Ritter wrote:
> hello.
>
> i suppose that your scsi/emulation stuff is not set up correctly.
> have you really loaded all neccessary modules (have a look again at
> the cdwriting howto section 2.1.3; ->
> ide-cd,ide-scsi,scsi_mod,sr_mod,sg)? if that is the case cdrecord
> -scanbus should definitely work (it has nothing to do with your
> fstab stuff).
>
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote:
> > Requesting Help Setting-up CDRW
> > ---
> > I had this same hardware setup running under RH7.3
> >
> > Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM
> > Debian: 2.4.18-bf2.4
> > the SCSI emulation module was installed during the initial setup,
> > and lsmod returned: ide-scsi used 0  (Does the "used 0" mean
> > anything?) ---
> > /etc/lilo.conf
> > edited to insert: append="hdc=ide-scsi"  on line 104 above
> > #Boot up Linux by default.
> > #
> > default=Linux
> > ran lilo -v with no errors reported
> > ---
> >
> > /etc/fstab
> > edited to insert:
> > /dev/sc0/mnt/cdrw   iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> > (also tried /dev/scd0 and for mount point: /cdrw having created a
> > directory there)
> >
> > Question:
> > /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> > remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Or should this be removed
> > or linked to
> > /dev/sco...and if the latter, is this the right way:
> > dev/cdrom   /cdrw
> >
> > ---
> > When I run cdrecord I get the following message:
> > "Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
> > ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?"
> >
> > My answer is yes, but it does not inform the novice user as to
> > how to get there.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > When I run xcdroast I get: "Failed to scan the SCSI-bus...you
> > have to install the
> > SCSI emulation first, Please see the CD -Writing HOW TO how to do
> > that. Well I did that and I thought that was what I had done
> > above.
> >
> > ---
> > When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get:
> > No such file or directory.
> > (Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new
> > partition, I set up a
> > directory under / named  "cdrw"
> > but that did not solve the problem.
> >
> > ---
> > Variations on the theme are rebooting after every change
> > --
> >
> > I have spent several days on this and have read the relevant
> > sections in O'R. Running Linux; Hunger, D.G.L. Bible, and the
> > CDRW HOW TO, as well as having searched Google Linux and read
> > half a dozen forums and list archives.
> >
> > There is a great deal of contradictory information out there,
> > even cocerning the setup for Debian. Most of the information is
> > also very old. How is it possible that this is not something that
> > is set up to at least be an option at initial setup on Linux?
> > What individual today setting up Linux does not have a CDRW?
> >
> >
> > Best Wishes!
> > Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
> >
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RE: latest msttcorefonts broken?

[Michael Olds]

I just checked MS yesterday on this and they no longer offer this download.
Doing the upgrade may have deleted or renamed your old font package.
In any case this needs to be fixed in the packages that depend on it.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DvB
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:24 PM
To: Debian-User
Subject: latest msttcorefonts broken?


I ran an apt-get upgrade a while back, which upgraded my msttcorefonts
package. Ever since then mozilla, which I had configured to use the
monotype-arial-iso8859-1 fontset from that package keeps printing the
following error message over and over (but doesn't appear to be causing
any other problems), even after I reset the fonts to the default values:

The font
"-*-*-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-*-*
-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
does not support all the required character sets for the current locale
"C"
  (Missing character set "ISO8859-1")


Any ideas as to how I might fix this?


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RE: Setting-up CDRW

[Michael Olds]

-Original Message-
From: Christoph Claus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:16 AM
To: Michael Olds
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW

<--X-->
Question:
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct?
Do you have an extra cd-rom? Then this is correct.

No, I have only the one CD Drive.
<--X-->
When I run cdrecord I get the following message:
"Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?"

What did you give cdrecord as dev= argument? It needs to be the
(pseudo)scsi-device with bus,target,lun e.g. dev=0,0,0

Apologies: this was not cdrecord, this was kreateCD, which uses CD record.
<--X-->
When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get:
No such file or directory.
Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new partition, I
set up a
directory under / named  "cdrw"
but that did not solve the problem.
<--X-->
Did you really load all necessary modules? Can you post the ide- and
scsi-section of your /boot/config-2.4.18? Are the appropriate entries
in /dev present? Especially /dev/sg*? The output looks like missing
/dev entries.

See above, I apparently do not have all the modules, but they are not
available from modconf
<--X-->


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Help needed setting up CDRW

[Michael Olds]

use one is now not able to
make changes there directly and I did not understand the directions for
using Modutls. I did not see anywhere where it looked like I should add the
suggested "options" lines:

options ide=cd ignore=hdc
alias scd0 sr_mod
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd
<--X-->
Direct answers below:

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Christoph Claus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:16 AM
To: Michael Olds
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW

<--X-->
Question:
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct?
Do you have an extra cd-rom? Then this is correct.

No, I have only the one CD Drive.
<--X-->
When I run cdrecord I get the following message:
"Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?"

What did you give cdrecord as dev= argument? It needs to be the
(pseudo)scsi-device with bus,target,lun e.g. dev=0,0,0

Apologies: this was not cdrecord, this was kreateCD, which uses CD record.
<--X-->
When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get:
No such file or directory.
Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new partition, I
set up a
directory under / named  "cdrw"
but that did not solve the problem.
<--X-->
Did you really load all necessary modules? Can you post the ide- and
scsi-section of your /boot/config-2.4.18? Are the appropriate entries
in /dev present? Especially /dev/sg*? The output looks like missing
/dev entries.

See above, I apparently do not have all the modules, but they are not
available from modconf
<--X-->


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RE: Help needed setting up CDRW

[Michael Olds]

Bob,

Thank you for this response. I am still very new at Linux and have hesitated
doing a kernel rebuild, but that is on the list...I just want to get a way
to do a backup so that when something goes wrong I won't have to start from
scratch ... I'm on about the 15th install and it's getting tiresome!

I am using Synaptic as my package management tool, and I think I can handle
a kernel update, but the question is, has been, I am using ext3 as my
filesystem, do the other kernels besides "bf" support this file system type?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Bob Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:12 AM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Re: Help needed setting up CDRW


On Wednesday 18 September 2002 08:53, Michael Olds wrote:
> This boils down to two problems: if a module is missing, where can
> I get it? I did a Google search and there are a zillion references
> to the missing modules but no mention of where they can be found.
>
> And Second, what is the procedure for editing /etc/modules.conf
> using the new modutls tool?
>
> Here is the previous message...and, again thanks for many suggested
> avenues of inquiry. However I am at an impass. I will try to update
> the situation completely here while answering the questions of
> those who asked for more information.

IIRC, the "bf" kernels do not include the modules you're missing.  I'm
using kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 (from woody) which does include them.
It was fairly painless for me to install the new kernel using
apt-get.

If you wish, you can also build your own kernel to include the missing
modules.

bob



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Re: Need witnesses

[Michael Cardenas]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:15:13PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> Please download
> 
> http://www.softwarechoice.org/download_files/Maccrisken.Letter.doc .
> 
> Please be prepared to stand as witnesses when I expose some odd things in the
> file . If you run strings on the file, at the end are a few names that are not
> meant to be visible in the file. They are names, probably of other participants
> in the creation of the document - two people and an organization. I need
> witnesses that those contents were on their site and were not something I made
> up.
> 
> Oh, this is going to be fun.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Bruce
> 
> 


Done. The file, the md5sum, and a signed document containing the
strings and the md5sum can be found at hyperpoem.net/letter. 

Go get em. 

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RE: Help needed setting up CDRW

[Michael Olds]

Bob et al,

OK I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.18-686 which went smoothly except that this
kernel uses something called initrd, which I opted out of the first go round
for some reason I can't remember. Needed to add a line to /etc/lilo.conf
'initrd=/initrd.img'
and one to /etc/kernel-img.conf which does not exist (didn't cause a
problem, but I apparently will get some kind of warning message about using
initrd every time I upgrade the kernel)

I then used xcdroast to select a directory and copy it to a cd which is what
I wanted the cd for in the first place (backup, and hopefully restore). This
also seemed to go smoothly.
However to read the CDROM I needed to make a change to /dev/cdrom:

cd /dev && rm cdrom && ln -s scd0 cdrom

which changed it to a link to the scsi device.

I deleted the line for /dev/scd0 etc in fstab without any apparent problems;
I left the line in /etc/lilo.conf append="scd=scsi-ide"; I deleted the CDRW
directory under / that I had created as an experiment; all the required mods
now appear to be present and accounted for

cdrecord -scanbus now gives me:

scsibus0
0,0,0, 0)SONY 'CDRW CRX185e1' 'XYS2' Removable CD-Rom
which is what I think it is supposed to show.

The only problem that remains is that trying to make a CD with kreatecd it
just sits there, but if this does not look like some kind of hidden problem,
I think I will just remove this program and use xcdroast.


Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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Re: Interest of SMP kernel :)

[Michael Heironimus]

If you're using make-kpkg, I think you'll have to set CONCURRENCY_LEVEL.
The option is documented in the kernel-pkg.conf man page.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 05:13:19AM +0300, Egor Tur wrote:
>  grep  MAKE conf.vars 
>  MAKE = /usr/bin/make -j3
>  
>  time make-kpkg --revision=pupkin.0.6 kernel_image
>  real5m51.022s
>  user5m35.260s
>  sys 0m23.750s
>  
>  grep MAKE conf.vars
>  MAKE = /usr/bin/make
>  
>  time make-kpkg --revision=pupkin.0.6 kernel_image
>  real5m50.883s
>  user5m35.200s
>  sys 0m23.740s

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RE: ide-scsi

[Michael Olds]

Alan, try

rmmod [option] modules


System administration command. Unload a module or list of modules from the
kernel. This command is successful only if the specified modules are not in
use and no other modules are dependent on them.

Can you tell us what message you are getting that makes you think this is
loaded or interfering with what you want to do?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


-Original Message-
From: Alan Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ide-scsi


On Friday 20 September 2002 7:33 pm, Amir Tal wrote:
> On Friday 20 September 2002 21:26, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > Can someone explain how ide-scsi gets loaded?
> >
> > I have done grep -r ide-scsi * on /etc and its not reported (and
> > therefore in particular /etc/modules or /etc/modutils have no reference
> > to it).
...
> make sure there is no entry for it in /etc/modules.conf.

I already said I could find no entry there:-(

> also check that its not preloading in lilo (should look something like :
> append = "hdd=ide-scsi")

Nothing in /etc/lilo.conf either

(thats why I did a grep on all of etc - I figured at least one of the config
files must load it - but nothing.)

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RE: ide-scsi

[Michael Olds]

Alan,

OK I think I know what will do it. Go to modconf which is the module
installation dialog you saw when installing, go to scsi modules and find the
ide-scsi module which should have a plus beside it. Select it and click ok.
You should be asked if you want to remove it, etc.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Alan Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ide-scsi


On Friday 20 September 2002 10:03 pm, martin f krafft wrote:

> Why not remove it from the /lib/modules tree and watch the startup
> sequence carefully for an error message? This isn't the "nice" way,
> but it might be your only way. I doubt it'll render your system
> unusable, really!

Did that and rebooted - no error message I could see

Its not loaded, all works well and mplayer plays by dvds :-)

Its just so annoying I can't find out why

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Re: True Type fonts, anti-aliasing

[Michael Kristensen]

* A R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-21 13:21:52]:
> cd /us/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
> ln -s /usr/share/fonts/truetype
> 
> Well, I tried to do it and discover that I don't have
> TrueType directory, which tells me that I probably
> didn't install them. Can some one point what packages
> need to be installed to get both TrueType and
> anti-aliasing going?
> I am running Woody.

Check your path, it is wrong.

The correct one is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType.

If you don't have that one either, the package you should get is
msttcorefonts, I guess.

P.S. this is my first post to a mailing lists. Please don't get mad at
me if I did anything wrong. Just tell me somehow, thanks :-)


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Re: [OT] punctuation (was Re: Configuring w3m for Mozilla)

[Michael Kristensen]

* Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-21 15:42:17]:
> Robert Ian Smit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/09/2002 (11:25) :
> > In Mozilla I could prevent websites to change the status-bar
> > message. I am not sure if this does what I think it does. But a big
> > annoyance is scrolling text that prevents seeing where a link is
> > pointing to. If I remember correctly, I never saw that in Mozilla.
> ^^^
> galeon?

If you are reading what he wrote again, it says that he never saw
scrolling text in the status bar in Mozilla, because of the option to
turn it off. At least that is how I understand it.

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dialup mail with gnus

[Michael Wördehoff]

Hello List,

I followed the threading about mail-reader some time ago.
I was interested to console-mail in addition to kmail, which I may possibly 
ditch in future.
I relay on a dialup-ppp.
As a consequence of what I've read, I now use wvdial -> fetchmail -> gnus for 
reading.
Now i wonder how to send dialup-mails properly. Exim ( actually running ) 
seems not to be appropriate, according to it's philosophy. I would like to 
have something like 'dialup and send remote-mails in ( remote-? - ) que'  
on a keystroke from inside gnus.
Which MTA would be useful ? Would it be easier to invoke a little script 
instead ?
Please cc to me directly, since I'm not on the list at moment...

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Re: Where is 'startx'?

[Michael Kristensen]

* Bill Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 10:50:16]:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm still getting used to the Debian way of doing things, so please
> forgive me if this is a "stupid" question.  But what package provides
> the 'startx' command?  I've got xfree86-common and xserver-xfree86
> installed, but apparently, it's not either of those that provides it:

You can use http://packages.debian.org/ to find which package it is in.
The form you should use is named "Search the contents of packages".

the easiest thing to do is to enter "bin/startx" and then just choose
your release. Simple :-)

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Re: Where is 'startx'?

[Michael Kristensen]

* Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 11:35:26]:
> * Bill Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 10:50:16]:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm still getting used to the Debian way of doing things, so please
> > forgive me if this is a "stupid" question.  But what package provides
> > the 'startx' command?  I've got xfree86-common and xserver-xfree86
> > installed, but apparently, it's not either of those that provides it:
>
> 
> You can also use a utillity called apt-file, i find it quite useful.

Woah, I didn't know anything about that one, but yeah, it sure is
useful. Thanks.

> 
> Do a search apt-cache search apt- will show you some nifte features.
> If you find an interesting package do apt-cache show 'exact packagename'

Yep, I already knew about this one. This is useful too. The conclusion
must be that Debian is useful :-)

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Re: aliases or functions--which to use?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:42:51PM -0400, alex wrote:
> But, can someone explain why 'functions' should be used instead of  
> 'aliases' ? 

Well, there are a few reasons related to the rules on exactly when alias
definitions are evaluated and when substitution is done, but the only
real-world situation I can think of where that would be an issue is if
you mixed functions and aliases (aliases defined inside a function won't
actually be available until after the function exits). And you have to
be a little more careful about shell wildcard and variable expansion in
an alias, but as long as you think about what you're doing you'll
probably never have a problem. You're not doing any of that stuff.

For simple things, aliases are usually faster and easier. Use them
unless you see a reason not to. Some people like functions better than
aliases, just like some people like C shells better than Bourne shells.
I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the "experts" who told you
to use functions were just parroting what they read in the bash
documentation (or something similar).

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Re: Filesystem error

[Michael Heironimus]

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:16:20PM -0500, Stefan Sten wrote:
> I followed the instructions at the promt tried with 'mount -n -o
> remount,rw /' and then 'e2fsck dev/hda1'.

If at all possible you should boot from an emergency disk/CD. In any
case, it is dangerous to run fsck on a filesystem that is mounted
read-write. If you can boot from floppy/CD don't mount the filesystem at
all, and if you have to boot from HD don't remount it rw.

> That gave me: "FILE SYSTEM MODIFIED", I rebooted and the system keeps
> complaning as before. Does somebody recognise this?

Don't stop after you run fsck once. Keep running it until it doesn't
tell you about any more errors. If you have too many errors you may want
to just save what data you can to another partition, wipe that one, and
restore from a backup. You should also make yourself a note about this,
filesystem corruption can sometimes be caused by a hardware problem.

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logitech cordless keyboard loosing contact / Detecting Turbo-Button

[Michael Wördehoff]

Hi List,

still I'm no subscribed member ;) so please cc directly to me.

My ( non-optical ) remote keyboard and mouse eventually both loose contact to 
the receiver when I switch from text-console to X with ctrl-alt-F7. 

It's a serial logitech cordless wheel mouse . In XF86Config, it's configured 
imps2 to /dev/psaux. On the belonging logitech 'iTouch' keyboard is a 
time-stamp from Jan 2000. 
The 3 devices are placed alright at the right distances from each other and 
electric fields, according to the manual.

There are 'rescan'-buttons on all 3, but that did work only in a very few 
cases. 

It's on Woody with Kernel 2.4.17. The problem also occured with Kernel 2.2.19.

I can't reproduce this easily. It occurs rather seldom. Until now, I can't 
say if it depends on gpm beeing acitve. I start gpm only automatically 
together with mc on root-login-shells which I do very often, and 
unfortunately I could not  remember exactly. 
gpm is listening to /dev/gpmconsole which is a symlink from /dev/psaux. 

I've got no possibility to enter the system through a lan or wan. No  
laptop at hand. But I don't want to relie on a hardware-reset.

I remember there should be a way to detect the 'Turbo'-Button at the front of 
my old towerperhaps i can write a 'damon' executing a script when this 
button is switched. I hope it will be enough just turning back to 
text-console.
My net-search for something like 'detecting turbo-button under linux' failed, 
but I don't know the right keywords at all. Could somebody tell me a helpful 
link, or some appropriate keywords ?


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Re: Fetchmail Problem!!!!

[Michael Kristensen]

* somu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-24 10:55:13]:
> Hi Friends,
> 
> 
>  I am getting this error when I run fetchmail.
> 
> "socket error while fetching from mail.rediff.com"
> 
> What should I do?

Be sure that the address for the mail server you provided is correct. I
can see that the mail server - mail.rediff.com - doesn't use the same
domain as your email address - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this correct?

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Re: OT: how to make kmail open links in mozilla

[Michael Brade]

On Thursday 26 September 2002 10:20, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Jason Pepas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.09.26.0940 +0200]:
> > not really a debian question, but does anyone know how to make kmail open
> > a link in an email in mozilla instead of konqueror?  I have looked in the
> > kde configurator thing and didn't see any sort of option for that.
>
> The same applies to other k* apps, like knewsticker. It looks like KDE
> doesn't allow users to change middleware. heck, even windoze allows
> that ;^>
>
> this is CCed to a friend who's a KDE developer. let's see what comes
> back...
heh :)

To be honest, I didn't know the answer at first sight, but a look at the code 
did it: you have to change the _global_ Browser in KControl (or Konqueror 
itself), section "File Associations". I think it was under File Manager until 
KDE 3.0. There, go to text/html, press Add, choose Mozilla and move it to the 
top of the list. You can do this with any mime type you want (although I 
can't understand, why one would want that ;).

Good luck,
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Re: OT: how to make kmail open links in mozilla

[Michael Brade]

On Thursday 26 September 2002 16:45, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Jason Pepas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.09.26.1556 +0200]:
> > you can't understand why one would wish to use mozilla instead of
> > konqueror?
hehe, that was just a joke... :)

> noo. don't pose that question to Michael. he's a KDE evangelist
> and you know how that goes; the problems get eclipsed by good lucks
> and the good features. that's not KDE specific anyway.
...that Martin didn't understand, obviously. Hey Martin, I know you like to 
provoke, but I have to reply anyways; the first line is correct, but the 
rest, especially the good look, is of really low priority to most of us 
developers. We have two developers caring about the look and a few more 
artists who are drawing the icons, but that's it (although that doesn't mean 
I'm not proud of the new style). The other 400 (?, we have 800 accounts) are 
writing code and fixing bugs.

However, I know about the (few) problems that remain in KDE and personally, I 
become quite angry if something crashes and I can't fix it! Even that angry 
that I drop khtml and use (the slow and big) mozilla or opera for some hours. 
Now, guess how often that happened upto now--about three times in the last 
two years! 

So... no, I really can't understand why one would wish not to use Konqueror or 
KMail ;-)) [sorry, couldn't resist]

Bottom line; I'm really happy with KDE, especially KDE 3.1, and I can't wait 
to have it in Debian (even if only to get Martin off his twm ;-)

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RE: debian menu in kde

[Michael Olds]

Not a direct answer, but a help: by using >System>Appfinder you can make the
KDE menu include many programs it does not include in the default state.

I also wonder what is going on in the mind's of the developers: if you're
going to have an application and services menu, why not put everything in
it? Or at least give us a way to do that.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org



-Original Message-
From: Jason Pepas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: debian menu in kde


where can I read up on the internal workings of the kde menu system?  I
would
like to figure out how to get it to use the standard debian menu system (kde
2.2.2 does its own thing).

-jason


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Re: X popup client sought

[Michael Heironimus]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 01:51:29PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> i would like to implement a service in the LAN which pops up a window
> on a workstation computer in response to an event generated on
> a central server. ideally, the popup window should be displayed for

Just a thought, but it would not be very difficult to write a basic UDP
sender/listener pair to wait for a datagram on an arbitrary port and
pass that as an argument to xmessage. It would only pop up on demand,
and xmessage takes a timeout as an argument. Since the listener would be
started in the user's X session xmessage would have access to the
display.

Of course, without some basic access control any random person could
just start spraying UDP datagrams all over the place and annoy everybody
with xmessage windows, but one problem at a time I suppose the
magnitude of that problem (and others) depends on the environment in
which you would use it.

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RE: Konqueror slowness

[Michael Olds]

If it helps your case, I had a similar problem. My solution was to take out
Konquoror and use Krusader instead using Mozilla for the browser. In fact I
have strip't out most of KDE from KDE (strip't everything out of Mozilla
except the browser as well). I like the customization of what I would call
the Desktop, Kmail, the Control Center and that's about it.


Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Hachinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Mark Roach; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Konqueror slowness


Hi!

I have absolutely the same problem, although my kdebase and -libs are
self-compiled... I'm already talking about this with Dirk Mueller,
one of the kde team. If you don't bother, I'll forward your problem
report to him.

Regards,

Stephan

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:30:50 -0500
Mark Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Konqueror takes an extremely long time to load pages on my system
> compared to mozilla/galeon. Has anyone had a similar problem?
>
> I went to theregister in konq and then while it was loading, I
> lanched galeon, loaded the site and came back and started typing
> this before konqueror loaded the site (~17 seconds just for the
> main content area showed up). Reload takes roughly the same amount
> of time.
>
> I don't remember that having been the case in the past, and
> couldn't find anyone else reporting this problem (everyone always
> talks about konq being fast). Any thoughts on what I might have
> done to upset it? I am using the 3.0.3 debs from the kde site.
>
>
> -Mark
>


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Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Hello,

Woody.

I am having some difficulty getting Sendmail up and running.
I installed the program apparently with no problems. I ran: sendmailconfig
after the install, also apparently no problems, no errors reported. But
nothing works either. So I looked in /etc/mail/ and there is no sendmail.cf
so I tried running sendmailconfig again and it asked if it should configure
using the existing sendmail .conf and I said yes. And it reported there was
no /usr/sbin/update_conf which there isn't as it's in /usr/share/sendmail/

(Question one: could I just move it to where it wants?)

There is no existing sendmail.conf in /etc/mail/ either.

When I tried to create a sendmail.cf using:

cd /etc/mail
m4 /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 I first got a permission denied and saw
that the files in /m4/ were all marked non executable. I marked them
executable but I am not sure if that was the right thing to do.

I re-ran m4 etc and got this error message:
NONE:0:m4: ERROR: EOF in string

I tried looking up EOF (?end of file?) on Google where there are many
references and no explanations.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the program several times and I always
end up at this spot. Does anyone know how I get out of this?

Thanks in advance,


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RE: Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Well I'm listening. If I can't get it set up reasonably soon I will probably
go with Exim.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Bob Proulx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting up Sendmail


Michael Olds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-26 20:02:54 -0700]:
> I am having some difficulty getting Sendmail up and running.

I know that Sendmail has been the workhorse of the Internet for many
years.  I have configured Sendmail cf files by hand for years and
loved the recent m4 configuration.  I am just saying that so you will
know this recommendation comes from someone who has spent much time
with sendmail and still thinks favorably of it.  But it has been
passed on both sides by other programs.

You will probably get a hundred replies to the effect that everyone
recommends that you run either Exim or Postfix.  Either are high
quality mailers.  I prefer Postfix.  It is table driven and very easy
to configure.

  apt-get install postfix

Or you could go with Exim, another fine program.  You will find a lot
of Exim users on this list and can be certain of good user support for
it here.

  apt-get install exim

Bob


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Re: procmail and uw-imapd (locking!)

[Michael Heironimus]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 10:08:44AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> I'm using uw-imapd, and have some procmail filters set up. While
> accessing my mailbox (from evolution, btw, but I don't think it
> matters), it occurs relatively often that procmail changes the
> mailfolder while imapd is just reading/writing it. imapd then complains,
> of course.

How do you have procmail delivering mail? I use procmail with UW imapd
and pass the messages to dmail for delivery, and nothing has complained
yet...

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RE: Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Hello again,

First, thanks to all who responded with suggestions. I'm still working on
Sendmail. I have it working half way following Oliver's suggestions ...I can
send, but I am not receiving anything, either locally or over the Internet.
I figure it can be the settings at my DNS server, the router's firewall
(don't think so), a sendmail configuration I'm missing...(?, I have SMTP and
local, so it must be one of the exotic ones set up by Debian), or I just
don't have my Kmail mail client set up right (ashamed to say it, I can
configure Windows Outlook accounts, but I have no idea what I should be
telling the Linux machine about loading mail to local/remote users).

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Fuchs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting up Sendmail


On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Woody.
>
> I am having some difficulty getting Sendmail up and running.
> I installed the program apparently with no problems. I ran: sendmailconfig
> after the install, also apparently no problems, no errors reported. But
> nothing works either. So I looked in /etc/mail/ and there is no
sendmail.cf
> so I tried running sendmailconfig again and it asked if it should
configure
> using the existing sendmail .conf and I said yes. And it reported there
was
> no /usr/sbin/update_conf which there isn't as it's in /usr/share/sendmail/

It is a bug ... you first have to cd in the directory
/usr/share/sendmail and then run sendmailconfig.

>
> (Question one: could I just move it to where it wants?)
>
> There is no existing sendmail.conf in /etc/mail/ either.
>
> When I tried to create a sendmail.cf using:
>
> cd /etc/mail
> m4 /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 I first got a permission denied and saw
> that the files in /m4/ were all marked non executable. I marked them
> executable but I am not sure if that was the right thing to do.

You can copy the example sendmail.mc and submit.mc from
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/debian/ to your /etc/mail directory (and of
course edit them) and then run
m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf (the same for the
submit file). Then cd to the /usr/share/sendmail directory and run
sendmailconfig (I think it has to be run as root).

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RE: security update

[Michael Olds]

>I think he was asking how to switch the source.list file to go fetch
>from a server rather than his installation CD set. The answer is of
>course easily found by reading documents on the web site in any case.

He must also comment out (# front of each) each line referencing his CDs or
they will be used over the on line links.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Shyamal Prasad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: security update


"Bob" == Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Bob> Timur V. Irmatov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-27
Bob> 14:57:46 +0500]:
>> > Check if you have the following in /etc/apt/sources.list:
>> >
>> > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
>> non-free
>> >
>> > If not, add it. Then:
>>
>> Something must be added to sources.list, I suppose?

Bob> Hmm...  The message you were responding to contained the
Bob> answer to the question you asked.  Go back, take a breath,
Bob> read it again, then you will be enlightened.

I think he was asking how to switch the source.list file to go fetch
from a server rather than his installation CD set. The answer is of
course easily found by reading documents on the web site in any case.

Try something like this:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib
non-fre
e

deb http://security.debian.org/ woody/updates main contrib non-free

I guess you could s/woody/stable/ there, I guess I never got around to
it after the release ;-)

Cheers!
Shyamal


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RE: Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Hello again,

Woody. Can send but not receive mail.

I checked with my DNS server and I believe it is set up properly.

This seems to be the problem:

in var/log/mail/mail.err
No local mailer defined
QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set

and /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.errors
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/proto.m4:232:M4 Cannot open
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/.m4 No such file or directory

Well, it's no such file. And I did not see it hanging around in any other of
the likely spots either.

I have a little investment in effort here is why I am hanging in and not
switching right off to the much recommended exim or postfix; but all I need
to be told to make the switch is that these are not my problems with
comprehension, but that the Sendmail program is buggy...anyone care to take
a shot?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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RE: Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Alvin,

Thank you for this response.
First problem is: I do not have an /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file (I do have a
local-host-names file with no extension); and I do not have an
/etc/mail/access file or an /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file

For these I think the problem is as is stated in the mail just previous to
this: sendmailconfig cannot find /usr/share/sendmail/cf/mailer/.m4 because
it isn't there.

I checked out the site you recommended this morning, and read a few things,
but it seems more directed towards securing a running system than getting a
system running to begin with...or did I miss a link?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:55 PM
To: Michael Olds
Cc: Oliver Fuchs; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Setting up Sendmail



hi ya

to receive email
cd /etc/mail
ln -s local-host-names sendmail.cw
- be sure your domain is listed in the file
make
sendmail - stop/start

for popping email stuff...
- make sure you can "telnet localhost 110"
- than you should use secure pop3 instead of port 110
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/secure_pop3.txt

sendmail howto
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/sendmail.gwif.html

c ya
alvin

/etc/mail/access
#
# list of domains/ip# this mschine will be relaying emails
#
foo.com
#
# tou local lan
192.168.0.0
#
#

/etc/sendmail.cw  and/or /etc/mail/sendmail.cw
#
# list of domains tyhis machine will be receiving emails
#
foo.com
www.foo.com
#


On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> First, thanks to all who responded with suggestions. I'm still working on
> Sendmail. I have it working half way following Oliver's suggestions ...I
can
> send, but I am not receiving anything, either locally or over the
Internet.
> I figure it can be the settings at my DNS server, the router's firewall
> (don't think so), a sendmail configuration I'm missing...(?, I have SMTP
and
> local, so it must be one of the exotic ones set up by Debian), or I just
> don't have my Kmail mail client set up right (ashamed to say it, I can
> configure Windows Outlook accounts, but I have no idea what I should be
> telling the Linux machine about loading mail to local/remote users).
>


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RE: Can not acces ide cdrom

[Michael Olds]

Hey Bob, a Re: Bob?

I just went through this recently, so I hope I remember this correctly: the
device you want to operate as a CDROM needs to point to the SCSI device.

In /dev/
make /dev/CDROM a symlink to scd0



-Original Message-
From: bob parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can not acces ide cdrom


I am using Debian 3.0.0.
I installed it with a 2.2.20 kernel which did not have scsi support.
I later installed the 2.4.18 kernel and got support for my scsi cd burner
but
I have lost ability to read my ide cdrom.

Here is my fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#  

/dev/hda8   /   ext2errors=remount-ro   0   1
/dev/hda7   noneswapsw  0   0
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0   0
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0

My cdrom mount points
debian:/home/bob# ls -l /cdrom*/
/cdrom/:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Sep 28 23:35 cdrom0 -> /cdrom0
/cdrom0/:
total 0
/cdrom1/:
total 0

my /dev/cdroms
debian:/home/bob# ls -l /dev/cdrom*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   11 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom ->
/dev/cdrom0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom0 ->
/dev/scd0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom1 ->
/dev/scd1

How do I regain access to my ide cdrom?
Thanks
bob


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RE: Can not acces ide cdrom

[Michael Olds]

Bob,

Sorry, I think I misunderstood your situation. You have a CDROM and a CDRW.
Your CDRW is actually a real SCSI device? I was thinking it was scsi
emulation. If I understand this now, the ide CDROM should NOT be being
pointed to the scd0 or anything else but itself. (You may actually have
implimented scsi emulation for the CDROM, which could be another cause of
this problem.) If I have again misunderstood, and you are speaking about two
ide devices (one ide CDROM and one ide CDRW with scsi emulation) you need to
link the CDROM to the scd0...I would think directly not via the CDRW...and
also as just posted, check permissions. Next up you need a more experienced
advisor. If you are speaking about one ide CDRW with scsi emulation then it
needs to be linked to the scd and there should not be a second device in
/dev ... just /dev/CDROM pointing to scd0.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: bob parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:33 AM
To: Michael Olds
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can not acces ide cdrom


On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:59, you wrote:
> Hey Bob, a Re: Bob?
>
> I just went through this recently, so I hope I remember this correctly:
the
> device you want to operate as a CDROM needs to point to the SCSI device.
>
> In /dev/
> make /dev/CDROM a symlink to scd0
>
It already is indirectly, ie /dev/cdrom symlinks to /dev/cdrom0 which
symlinks to /dev/scd0. Reading from the scsi device is ok. It is the
ide device that got lost.
What I'm not clear on is whether I need to have the /dev/cdrom1
linked to /dev/sc1 as it now is or /dev/hdb as it is ide.
Cheers
bob

>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bob parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Can not acces ide cdrom
>
>
> I am using Debian 3.0.0.
> I installed it with a 2.2.20 kernel which did not have scsi support.
> I later installed the 2.4.18 kernel and got support for my scsi cd burner
> but
> I have lost ability to read my ide cdrom.
>
> Here is my fstab
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> #  
> 
> /dev/hda8   /   ext2errors=remount-ro   0   1
> /dev/hda7   noneswapsw  0   0
> proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
> /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0   0
> /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
>
> My cdrom mount points
> debian:/home/bob# ls -l /cdrom*/
> /cdrom/:
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Sep 28 23:35 cdrom0 -> /cdrom0
> /cdrom0/:
> total 0
> /cdrom1/:
> total 0
>
> my /dev/cdroms
> debian:/home/bob# ls -l /dev/cdrom*
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   11 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom ->
> /dev/cdrom0
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom0 ->
> /dev/scd0
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Sep 28 23:35 /dev/cdrom1 ->
> /dev/scd1
>
> How do I regain access to my ide cdrom?
> Thanks
> bob


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Setting up exim: was Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Hello,

Not because I gave up on Sendmail, but because of another problem (for some
reason (I believe it had to do with uninstalling Sendmail which I did in
order to start from scratch and install the package from source) when I shut
down and restarted, Apache was unavailable, all the files are in place, but
it is listed as not installed and doesn't work. apachectl start would get no
sucha commandment...anyway, to fix the Apache problem I reinstalled,
reinstalling installed exim...so I thought I would give it a spin...). But
here I am in the same situation: I can send mail outside, but I cannot
receive mail from outside or internally. The error log reads:
date refused relay (host) to <~internal@~> from <~external@~>
and one from local to local

In other words, from my little understanding: the mail is getting to me, but
it isn't being distributed. In other words, no problem at the DNS level or
at the router, some problem either with exim config or in my Debian/linux
setup. I am not sure if my Sendmail problems were caused in the same way, if
so, the problem is with my Debian/Linux setup. I have read a couple of books
and looked on the exim site with no joy.

I have the following in exim.conf
local_domains = listed:all:variations domain:domain.net:mail.domain.net
I added:
hosts_treat_as_local = all the above listed here as well
relay_domains = all the above listed here as well
NOT UNCOMMENTED: RELAY_DOMAINS_INCLUDE_LOCAL_MX = TRUE
host_lookup = *
host_auth_accept_relay = * (none set up)

I also listed all the domains and variations of the names in
/etc/hosts_allow
ALL: domain
ALL: domain.net
and so forth one per line; did not do anything with hosts_deny

Any pointers? Any and all help appreciated.






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Re: NIS setup question

[Michael Heironimus]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 06:38:34PM -0400, Neal Lippman wrote:
> It is the case that ypbind must be running on any NIS client system
> regardless of whether it is using libc6 or not?

Yes, you must run ypbind.

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Re: A Better XTerm?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 07:56:49PM -0700, Josh Rehman wrote:
> The thing that I really want is the ability to horizontally scroll. The
> commands "top" and "ps -aux" often create very wide output, and I'd like

You probably won't find a terminal that lets you scroll horizontally,
but for non-interactive commands you can pipe the output to less. As I
recall less can scroll horizontally.

> And if it's not asking too much, the ability to rename each session.

What do you mean, rename each window? Pretty much every terminal can do
that with a command-line argument or escape codes. I think there's a
package that automates the escape codes for you to do it on the fly, but
I don't remember the name of it.

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RE: Setting up Sendmail

[Michael Olds]

Thanks for this Oliver, however I think the setup is too different to apply
to my situation: DSL always on, DNS servers running.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Fuchs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting up Sendmail


Sorry,

it has to mailq.

Oliver
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Re: IMAP folder listing

[Michael Heironimus]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 04:03:42PM -0500, Justin Ryan wrote:
> Anyone know of a way to set IMAP's root to ~/Mail/ as opposed to ~/ ? 
> When I go to subscribe to IMAP folders I see my entire home dir which is

Some IMAP servers let you change the root like that, but you can also
configure it on the client program. How to do that varies from one
client to the next, so I can't really tell you how to do it. Look for a
setting like "root" or "prefix".

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Re: find -mtime -1 | xargs scp ... user@remote:/dest/path

[Michael Heironimus]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 10:19:03AM -0500, will trillich wrote:
>   xargs -i# command # suffix

Since # is almost always a shell metacharacter, it's not surprising that
this doesn't work. Try using an alpha sequence, what I usually use is
"xargs -iXXX foo XXX bar".

By the way, if you're absolutely certain that there are no "special"
characters or spaces in any of the filenames, you can also use
  scp -options `find . -options` user@host:dir

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exim security = unprivileged

[Michael West]

I have just reconfigured exim to run with the security = unprivileged
option as described here:

http://www.exim.org/exim-html-3.30/doc/html/spec_55.html#SEC922

This is working fine, with exim owning the mailboxes.

None of my local_parts have system accounts.

Now I find that the pop3 daemon I use, popa3d, will not allow delivery
without system accounts.

Can you recommend a pop3 server to use for this configuration?

There are a number which say that they do not require system accounts,
but I can't find any documentation for any of them which describes how
to set the uid for the pop3 server after authentication without an
account.

I have been looking at:
cyrus
cucipop
teapop
courier

I only manage mail in the hundreds per day so high performance is not a
requirement.  I am much more interested in security then performance at
any rate.

 Thanks,
   Michael



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Any FAI success stories?

[Michael Jinks]

Hi all.

Been spending the last couple of weeks, off and on, trying to get an FAI
setup to work for a cluster I'm trying to build.  At this point I'm
starting to wonder if FAI works for anybody; I've had to make lots of
kludgey adjustments to its scripts, moved files around so that FAI can
find them, and now I'm stuck because the way that FAI expects to use
DHCP won't work.  After booting the client and mounting / read-only, it
calls dhclient to get some variables to use in deciding what sort of
action to take; but dhclient expects to write to /var/run, which is part
of / at this stage, thus read-only, so dhclient dies.  (Even this is
further along than I got at first; the current version of dhclient
appears to behave completely differently from the one FAI expects to
use, so I had to downgrade to the 2.2.x series just to get the command
line options to make sense.)

I can probably work something out, like writing in an extra clause in
FAI's scripts so that /var/run is a tmpfs filesystem or something, but
after many similar hacks I'm starting to wonder, does anybody actually
use FAI successfully?  And if not, is there a better option out there
that I haven't been able to google?

Thanks,
-mrj
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Re: can i trust you with this project

[Michael Olson]

This is probably a hoax.  I heard a news account of someone who got 
ripped off in a northern State for a million dollars or two.  Besides, 
it's illegal and too good to be true.

bello afolabi wrote:

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>It is with trust and confidence that I make this
>urgent important proposal to you in view of the fact
>that you are trust worthy and reliable.  Currently I
>have a business that I think would be of interest to
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Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Hello,

Exim on Woody

Trying again here, I posted on Friday afternoon and by Saturday I knew there
wasn't a hope of my request for help being seen.

At this point I have again run out of possible solutions:

I have Exim set up. I believe it is set up properly as I used the defaults
mostly. I can send mail from my Linux box, but I cannot receive mail, either
internally or from the outside. The log indicates that mail is being
received and is being delivered no errors. I am using the Kmail e-mail
client, which I have uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times just to
check. If there is a better client I am listening. I am sure this is
something silly, like permissions, but I do not know where to look next for
the solution. As far as I can tell the relevant directories and files are
user me and group mail, not sure if it is correct or safe, but also with
read, write, and execute for both.

Anyone have an idea as to what I should dig into next to get this up?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Carel,

No problem replying off list, and thank you for replying, period, I have two
machines one Windows 2000 Pro and one Linux. I will answer your questions,
below your questions below:

[ sorry for sending this offlist too, but as you have email problems I'm not
  sure list trafic will reach you.  If it does, pray tell and I wil adjust ]

> I have Exim set up. I believe it is set up properly as I used the defaults
> mostly. I can send mail from my Linux box, but I cannot receive mail,
either
> internally or from the outside. The log indicates that mail is being

so it isn't set up properly:)  For starters, we need some more info.
You say you've used the defaults during exim install/setup.  Did you
choose the "Internet site" or "Satellite" or...

So "Internet" or what was the #1 choice.

The next question is, how much do you need/want your machine to do:)
I normally prefer to have an ISP take care of all delivery and receiving
problems, but others really want to run their own full blown mail server.

In general what I am aiming to do is to get to the point where I have a self
sufficient setup running off my DSL line. I have a very low traffic site
plus one test site and one personal site, and will have only a few e-mail
addresses to service. My DNS service is being handled by VeriSign, and I am
only working with the test site and the personal site, BuddhaDust is being
handled by a hosting service. When I get the rest set up and running I will
take DNS on as well...right now I can use one less problem.

> received and is being delivered no errors. I am using the Kmail e-mail
> client, which I have uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times just
to
> check. If there is a better client I am listening. I am sure this is

The email client just hands it over to a email server, and depending
on your configuration of your email client that could well be your
IPS's mail server.  To shortcircuit such debugging fun, you could try
to use "mail" (install mailutils or mailx if you're missing this one)
like this:

   # to check the mail gets delivered open a log window and enter your
passwd
   $ xterm -e su - root "tail -f /var/log/exim/*log" &

   # send a mail from and to your normal non root login
   $ echo just testing | mail -s test $USER

   # look at the log window, this should look like:

==> /var/log/exim/paniclog <==

==> /var/log/exim/rejectlog <==

==> /var/log/exim/mainlog <==
2002-10-02 02:20:10 17wXFK-0005dU-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=carel P=local
S=319
2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=schaduw.felnet
[192.168.1.1]
2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 Completed

Little confusion here, but it comes down to the fact that the log reads as
does your last entry here.

I am talking about when I send mail from the Windows machine to the Linux
box, the linux box is recording such entries in /var/log/exim/mainlog and
similar entries for mail being sent from root to userme. I am just not able
to get them to show up in my email client. Again, I can send from Linux to
the Windows box no problem.



> something silly, like permissions, but I do not know where to look next
for
> the solution. As far as I can tell the relevant directories and files are
> user me and group mail, not sure if it is correct or safe, but also with
> read, write, and execute for both.

I'm not sure what files you're talking here, but I sure hope your not
refering to e.g. files in /etc?

in /etc/exim
I have permissions for /etc/exim/ user root rwe; group mail re (is it Debian
or Krusader that gives permissions in terms of "show entries" "write
entries" "enter" why not use the numbers, or the usual rwx?)
for /etc/exim/exim.conf user root rw; group root r
for /home/userme/mail user me rwe group mail rwe
for /var/mail/userme user root rwe group mail rwe set Gid others re sticky
(?)

Again, thanks,
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Stephen,
Thank you for this reply. Answers to your questions below your questions:

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Gran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:16 PM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Re: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)


This one time, at band camp, Michael Olds said:
> Hello,
>
> Exim on Woody
>
> Trying again here, I posted on Friday afternoon and by Saturday I knew
there
> wasn't a hope of my request for help being seen.
>
> At this point I have again run out of possible solutions:
>
> I have Exim set up. I believe it is set up properly as I used the defaults
> mostly. I can send mail from my Linux box, but I cannot receive mail,
either
> internally or from the outside. The log indicates that mail is being
> received and is being delivered no errors. I am using the Kmail e-mail
> client, which I have uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times just
to
> check. If there is a better client I am listening. I am sure this is
> something silly, like permissions, but I do not know where to look next
for
> the solution. As far as I can tell the relevant directories and files are
> user me and group mail, not sure if it is correct or safe, but also with
> read, write, and execute for both.
>
> Anyone have an idea as to what I should dig into next to get this up?


OK, if you have a default Debian install, exim installs mail into
/var/mail/$USER, and /var/spool/mail is a symlink to /var/mail.

ls -l /var/mail/$USER will tell you if there's any mail there (if it
has a nonzero size, you do.)  If there's mail there, then the problem
is the setup of your mail clients in reading it.  All of the mail
clients (AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong) can be made to read from the
mail spool.


ls -1 /var/mail/$USER gives me
/var/mail/userme and that is all.
the file itself if 700kb which isn't zero.


<===>

If you can send mail, exim is probably working - it's job is SMTP only.
exim (or postfix/sendmail, etc) do not _retrieve_ mail.  You will
only get mail sent to you by local jobs (cron, etc) or other users on
your box, unless this box is also the MX in the DNS for your domain.  I
don't have any details of your setup, but if this is a standard
workstation install, without a domain name attached to it, this doesn't
seem likely.  Again, correct me if I'm wrong, and fill in other details
as you think necessary.

I can send mail out. Are you saying exim does not process the mail that is
received? ( don't mean retrieve it as with an email client, but put it in
/var/mail/$USER ?

In any case yes this box is the MX in the DNS for this domain, and one
other...fully qualified, registered and, again, apparently working because I
just sent me an email from the Windows box and the /var/log/exim/mainlog
recorded it "completed"

<===>
The thread got drowned in the weekend traffic. I was having this same
problem with Sendmail. When I uninstalled sendmail, it boinked Apache (don't
ask me how), re-installing Apache installed Exim, so I thought I would give
it a try...about brings you up to date.


I missed where this thread started, but you make reference to sendmail.
I don't know sendmail that well (does anybody? (^8 ), but I do get the
gist at least of exim, and I'll help with what I can.


<===>

Steve
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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Stephen,

These are the settings I have in Kmail (I have tried multiple variations)

name: userme
location: /var/mail/userme
checked: Procmail locfile /var/mail/userme.lock

I also tried:
location: /home/userme/Mail and Mail/

nada

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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Hello, now Stephen and Carel,

I checked again and /var/mai/userme is user userme group mail

the settings for /etc/exim/exim.conf are:

Local_delivery
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}

By the way: I have a /var_mail partition; is using that as simple as
changing the file = ?

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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Shyamal,

Thank you for responding,

I am really not "Up and Running yet," and since we are talking about the
likelyhood of my box being badly configured, I would rather not post the DNS
name yet (and I keep the thing off-line 99% of the time anyway), no offense
please! I am reasonably sure they are set up correctly as I was talked
through it by the tech support person at VeriSign.

In the many different things I have done I did do one Telnet to the server
from the Windows box which passed the test...in a couple of the previous
messages on this I did check the /var/log/exim/mainlog and it looked to me
like I was getting mail.



-Original Message-
From: Shyamal Prasad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:46 PM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Re: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)


    "Michael" == Michael Olds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Michael> Anyone have an idea as to what I should dig into next to
Michael> get this up?

Hi Mike,

Could you share the DNS name used for the MX record with us (i.e the
world known email address served by this exim host)? If you'd prefer
not to just say so, but since it is your *email* address I figure it's
okay to tell it to the world ;-)

Can you telnet to your exim server on the smtp port and send a mail to
yourself? If you believe you are not receiving mail, look in your log
files (/var/log/exim/mainlog) when you send yourself mail - what do
you see?

One other thing: I noticed the word 'smarthost' in the log file
entries you posted on this. Does you use a smarthost or not?

I think you were looking at Stephen's sample bit of log: the only bit I have
posted for a recent mail is this (but no, I do not use a SmartHost):

> ==> /var/log/exim/mainlog <==
> 2002-10-02 02:20:10 17wXFK-0005dU-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=carel P=local
> S=319
> 2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=schaduw.felnet
> [192.168.1.1]
> 2002-10-02 02:20:11 17wXFK-0005dU-00 Completed

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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Carel,

ls -1 /var/mail/userme ~userme/mail
gives me a list of what is in /home/userme/Mail nothing like a number
indicating how many mails, etc.

Same same when i do ls -1 /var/mail/userme /home/userme/Mail
and ls -1 /var/mail/userme /var/mail/userme


I was mistaken about the permissions for /var/mail/userme they were user
userme group mail.


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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Carel:

OK! I ran ls -l... with these results:

mail0   datedrafts
0   inbox
840 sentmail
1613trash

I looked in the trash directory and there was nothing there.

But this looks like it is giving me what is in /home/userme, not what is in
/var/mail/userme



-Original Message-
From: Carel Fellinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:23 PM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Re: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)


On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:41:39PM -0700, Michael Olds wrote:
> Carel,
>
> ls -1 /var/mail/userme ~userme/mail

this ^^ should be -l (lowercase L), not the number one (1), they might
be quit similar on your display, but there quit different to ls:)


> gives me a list of what is in /home/userme/Mail nothing like a number
> indicating how many mails, etc.

Again, this looks like you're using maildir format.  Could you confirm
that /var/mail/userme is a directory?  Or simply show the output of
the following:

  $ ls -ld /var/mail/userme

(mind you, here agian it's lowercase L, not then number 1)

/var/mail/userme is a file from what I can see
ls -ld /var/mail/userme gives me a nosucha


> I was mistaken about the permissions for /var/mail/userme they were user
> userme group mail.

Bummers, lost me money here:)
I must go to bed now, so let me tell what I'm after:

OK...much appreciated!


option 1:
If /var/mail/userme is a file which size changes after
you've sent yourself mail, and owner,group stays userme,mail
then exim is configured okay.

to check it, look inside /var/mail/userme, towards to end you
should find the mail you just sent yourself.

this is the way it is. A file, which changes size.

option 2:
if /var/mail/userme is a directory and a new file is added to it
after you've sent yourself mail and again owner,group of all files
in /var/mail/userme aswel as that directory it self stays userme,mail
then exim is configured okay.

to check it, look inside that newly added file and check it's the mail
you sent yourself.

Tell you're mail client to use maildir format.

not this way.

good luck, see you tomorrow.

ok, again thanks...
Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Good morning Carel,

Live on the East Coast?

I use my W2KPro box as my workstation (On which I am reasonably competant --
I code html using TextPad which has no equal on Linux; and I watch the
stockmarket using MetaStock charting), and I am reciving mail for this list
on the Windows box. The two are separate machines linked to a USRobotics
Router hooked to a static IP. The Windows box is linked to the Linux box
only by ftp/telnet, and that is the way I am going to keep it (no SAMBA); in
the end the Linux box will have a minimal work environment, but be primarily
a server. The two machines both use the same keyboard, mouse, and monitor
via KVM switch so back and forth is no big deal, but copying from the Linux
box to the Windows box is still a hassle.

Thank you again for your careful attention to this! I have followed your
instructions and the output would indicate that Exim was running ok. (??) My
output next to yours below:


1) On the linux box login as userme. X

2) To check if it's a normal mailbox or a directory or whatever, use:

  $ file /var/mail/userme  X

   On my machine this looks like:

  $ file /var/mail/userme
  /var/mail/carel: ISO-8859 mail text, with very long lines

On mine it was similar:
/var/mail/userme ISO-8859 mail text but nothing else

   so it's in standard mbox format.  If it were in maildir format, it
   would have been a directory and the output would likely look like:

  $ file /var/mail/userme
  /var/mail/carel: setgid directory

Not this.

3) To see whether new mail arives, use: X

 $ du /var/mail/userme
 $ echo just testing | mail -s test userme
 $ du /var/mail/userme

   On my machine this looks like:

 $ du /var/mail/carel
 132/var/mail/carel
 $ echo just testing | mail -s test carel
 $ du /var/mail/carel
 136/var/mail/carel

On mine it looks similar:

$ du /var/mail/userme
712 /var/mail/userme
$ du /var/mail/userme (no "echo just testing | mail -s test 
userme)
712 /var/mail/userme

4) To look at the mail itself we need to know the format of the mail spool.
   in case it's in mbox format (see test 2), use:

 $ tail /var/mail/userme

   on my machie this looks like:

 $ tail /var/mail/cf
 id 17wiLZ-yt-00
 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:11:21 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: test
 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 From: Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:11:21 +0200

 just testing

On mine it looks similar:

id 17wj07-64-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> date...
To:
Subject:
From:
Date

just testing




If the above 4 steps yield similar results, then exim is definitely
working as it should, and you can move on to fixing your email client
setup.


A few differences, I do not know if they are revealing of any problems.

Best Wishes!
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login: cannot cd /home/user

[Michael West]

I copied my root file system onto a seperate partition.  When I try to
boot into new partition as / I cannot login.

I get the error:
cannot cd /home/user

When I boot normally and chroot into the new partition and run login I
get:

cannot determine tty name

I copied devices ( and everything else ) with `cp -a`  I have done this
before many times without a problem.  

What should I be looking at to understand what is happening?

~Michael


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Re: What are these groups for?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 12:21:04PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > bin:*:2:
> 
> HELP: No files on my system are owned by user or group bin. What
>   good are they? Historically they were probably the owners of
>   binaries in /bin? It is not mentioned in the FHS, debian
>   policy, or the changelogs of base-passwd or base-files.

Yes, bin is a group from the history of UNIX, and you are correct in its
use. I can't actually tell you why, but files in /usr/bin (and other bin
directories) were once commonly owned by user bin and group bin. I think
HP-UX and Solaris still do it that way, and the bin account's home
directory is /usr/bin (on those machines /bin is just a symlink to
/usr/bin). I vaguely remember reading that the bin user was sometimes
used to run daemons, too.

> > sys:*:3:
> 
> HELP: As with bin, except I don't even know what it was good for
>   historically.

I can't give you a real reason on this either, but I do know that device
files under /dev are sometimes owned by group sys. I think some other
files are also commonly owned by root:sys, but off the top of my head I
don't remember what kind.

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RE: Email (was Setting up Exim was Setting up Sendmail)

[Michael Olds]

Carel,

Again thanks. I followed your instructions and all tests indicate Exim is up
and running just fine.

To finish this part of let's double check on ownership and protections. It
should be like this:

owner: userme
group: mail
protection: -rw-rw
   user:  read, write
   group: read, write
   others:

Checked. All are as above.

If you want to be dead sure, you could rerun step 3, but instead of
"du /var/mail/userme" now switch to "du -b /var/mail/userme".  And for
added fun instead of "just testing" use some other odd string, like
"last call for alcohol" so as to make it simpler to see with step 4
that it's really the newly sent message that's in your mail spool?

Repeated steps 3 and 4 and got the message.

So presuming the above few extra checks are okee, lets move on to step
6, and try to use a simple email client to look at your emails.

6) To look at the mail use (still loged in as userme):

   $ mail

   to quit this program press the q-key followed by the enter-key.

   On my machine this gives a screen full of output looking like:

  Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
  "/var/mail/carel": 26 messages 26 new
  >N  1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 01 22:02  120/8086  animus 2002...
   N  2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 01 23:02   56/3295  animus 2002...
 
   N 19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 02 13:02   27/1225  animus 2002...
   N 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 02 13:11  205/12000 Anacron job...
  & q
  Held 26 messages in /var/mail/carel

Got a great long list of emails (how can I be being spammed already! I
barely have the thing open an hour a day.)


If this works, then the next thing to do is to choose an email client and
we will help configuring it.

Ok. Right now I have K-mail, but clearly something is wrong in spite of the
fact that I have messed with the configurations many times, reinstalled,
etc. I welcome any recommended e-mail client. I am used to, and happy with
Outlook on W2K...which I why I liked the look and feel of Kmail.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org



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RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup

[Michael Olds]

Carel,

OK, I got it.

It was the permissions on the K-mail client program itself. It was root root
for userme and root is set to receive no mail.

...now...on to POP3 configuration...I am using qpopper. I see the
qpopper.conf in /etc/ but the package installed with no configuration dialog
and the instructions say to configure using ./configure which I assume is
from the install directory, only there is no install directory...

...or...any better suggestions for a POP3 server?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup

[Michael Olds]

ok, I'll take your word for it, qpopper goes...exchanging q pop for I ma?

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File Manager Suggestions?

[Michael Olds]

Hello,

I have tried Konquoror: I don't need, like a browser there and would rather
not waste the space, but I like the two-window setup with tree view on one
side and full details on the other side.

I have tried Krusader: it freezes a couple of times a day when I work too
fast and requires logout and logbackin to start working again, it displays
permissions in a confusing way, and it doesn't display full details in the
second window well.

MC is ok and I use it in terminal mode,  but I want a graphical version.

Any suggestions?

Best Wishes!
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Re: nfs -- can't mount.

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 05:41:01PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> anarres:/# mount -t nfs 128.100.34.8:/home/matt /racesci/matt
> mount: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive

It's been a while since I had problems like that, but I vaguely remember
that errors like that sometimes come up when the RPC portmapper on the
server isn't running or isn't accepting connections. Can you use
"rpcinfo -p " from your client machine? You should see mountd
and nfs (and a few other things) in the service listing.

It's possible that the server has a "default" firewall/hosts.deny setup
that's blocking your client connection. Recent versions of Red Hat offer
to set up basic firewalling during installation (commendable, since one
of RH's main target audiences is new/inexperienced users). I think
current versions of the portmapper also use hosts.allow and hosts.deny,
with the special service name of "portmap". If the server has something
like "all: all" in hosts.deny (a common and recommended practice) you'll
need to add an entry to hosts.allow for your machine.

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RE: File Manager Suggestions?

[Michael Olds]

jeff,

Gentoo looks interesting, one question: If you double click a directory on
the left hand side does it show the contents on the right? The screenshots
don't make it clear if this can be done.

Best Wishes!
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Re: What are these groups for?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:52:01PM +0200, Robert Wilhelm Land wrote:
> "Running Linux" from Matt Welsh is often quite helpful in these

Good book for getting started with Linux, I used it myself.

> Would it be a mess to change the halt script from root.root to root.adm 
> and add
> my self to adm so I can closeup the mashine without using sudo?
> Is this bad admin style?

That wouldn't do what you want. Only root has permission to reboot/halt
the machine (for obvious reasons). I suppose that if you really wanted
to do that you could make halt setuid root and make it only executable
by owner and group, but I really wouldn't recommend that (I avoid making
anything setuid for security reasons). If you use GDM or KDM for your X
logins, those can be configured to allow reboot/shutdown from the
console without a root login.

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Re: What are these groups for?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 06:51:04PM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> From kdm any user can reboot/shutdown (at least in my machine) Is this 
> an anomaly?

No, KDM and GDM both run as root and allow a console user to reboot or
shut down the machine. I think both allow it by default but can be
configured to require a root password. It's a useful thing for a
workstation.

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Re: login: cannot cd /home/user

[Michael West]

I figured this out.  It turns out that the "." directories
/. and /.. had permissions 700 when they should have been 755.

If you know why this should be I would be interested.  root's umask is
0002.

 ~Michael

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 08:53:40AM -0700, Michael West wrote:
> I copied my root file system onto a seperate partition.  When I try to
> boot into new partition as / I cannot login.
> 
> I get the error:
> cannot cd /home/user
> 
> When I boot normally and chroot into the new partition and run login I
> get:
> 
> cannot determine tty name
> 
> I copied devices ( and everything else ) with `cp -a`  I have done this
> before many times without a problem.  
> 
> What should I be looking at to understand what is happening?
> 
> ~Michael
> 
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RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup

[Michael Olds]

Thanks Bob, I'll look into popa3d...I was going to go with an imap solution
but I had second thoughts about having people's files on my server...I am
only going to have a half dozen users and none of them need me for roaming
access, so I think POP will do for me...

...now maybe you can get me out of another kettle of soup I got myself into:
In trying to get a decent file manager, I listened to the advice of someone
who recommended gentoo. It looks great, but it isn't in the stable Woody. So
I downloaded and started to install it using dpkg --install  .deb, but
immediately ran into dependancy problems. Then progressing further, I
actually think I managed to download all the dependancies needed, but I'm
hung up in a catch 22: x depends on y so x will not be configured; y depends
on x so y will not be configured. Now I have a half dozen packages sitting
there unconfigured that won't configure and I cant sit or get off the can. I
feel I should just get rid of the lot, but half of them are upgrades of
current packages, and instead of removing the unconfigured new package,
dpkg --remove xxx tries to remove the original...total madness at this
point...what do I do just sit around with half loaded packages and wait for
Debian to catch up?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:17 PM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Re: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup


On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:49:31AM -0700, Michael Olds wrote:
> Carel,
>
> OK, I got it.
>
> It was the permissions on the K-mail client program itself. It was root
root
> for userme and root is set to receive no mail.
>
> ...now...on to POP3 configuration...I am using qpopper. I see the
> qpopper.conf in /etc/ but the package installed with no configuration
dialog
> and the instructions say to configure using ./configure which I assume is
> from the install directory, only there is no install directory...

Those instructions are from the original .tar.gz source.  ./configure
is used to create the Makefile prior to compiling the program.  The
source documentation is usually (?) installed as part of a Debian
package, but since it is already compiled, you do not need to do this.

There is probably something else in the documentation which describes
what configuration you need to do, if any.  Check the file listing
"dpkg -L qpopper" and see what was installed.  Check any man pages
shown.

>
> ...or...any better suggestions for a POP3 server?

I have used both qpopper and cucipop, but am currently running popa3d,
which doesn't require any configuration and is both simple and secure.

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Re: IMAP Configuration - uw-imapd

[Michael Heironimus]

I can't speak for the Debian package, but I use my own build of
uw-imapd. One thing does come to mind - do your users have home
directories? I'm not sure what would happen if a user didn't have one,
uw-imapd assumes you want to start there.

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:14:06AM +1000, David Shaw wrote:
> *) is Outlook known to work / not work with uw-imapd?

Back when I first set it up I tested with Outlook Express, and it
worked. It's reasonable to think that Outlook 2000 would, but I don't
have it so I can't test it. All the other IMAP clients I've tried have
worked.

> *) is there any manual configuration of uw-imapd I need to do? (The apt-get

No, uw-imapd doesn't even use a configuration file.

> *) where does uw-imapd log info/errors to?

It should log through syslog using the "mail" facility. Wherever you
have those messages going is where the imapd messages go. Mine records
all logins, but I don't remember if that's normal or if I had to
configure it to do so at compile time.

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Re: Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 08:35:22PM -0700, Mark Seven Smith wrote:
> What is good about this?  Does it give one increased functionality?  For 
> instance, does emacs have a use for an  key?

emacs can map both alt and meta keystrokes. It can probably map super
and hyper, too, but I've never tried. On a PC I remap all the windows
keys in X. I also map either print screen or scroll lock to Compose
Character, since both are pretty much useless in X.

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RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup

[Michael Olds]

John,

No. I did them one at a time. I tried using -recursive, but that didn't get
off the ground. I didn't know about listing them. What would you suggest
concerning this situation, where half of an interdependant group are already
half installed? Can you go back and tell it to install the bunch?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: John Hasler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:01 PM
To: Debian. Org
Subject: Re: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup


Michael Olds wrote:
> Then progressing further, I actually think I managed to download all the
> dependancies needed, but I'm hung up in a catch 22: x depends on y so x
> will not be configured; y depends on x so y will not be configured. Now I
> have a half dozen packages sitting there unconfigured that won't
> configure and I cant sit or get off the can.

Did you try 'dpkg --install u.deb v.deb w.deb x.deb y.deb z.deb' ?
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RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup

[Michael Olds]

Mark,

Thank you for this. Believe me force is something that has come to mind.
Pending a response from John (above) concerning doing them in sequence now
that I'm already half done, I will attempt this tomorrow.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

-Original Message-
From: Mark L. Kahnt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:23 PM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: RE: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup


On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 21:18, Michael Olds wrote:
> Thanks Bob, I'll look into popa3d...I was going to go with an imap
solution
> but I had second thoughts about having people's files on my server...I am
> only going to have a half dozen users and none of them need me for roaming
> access, so I think POP will do for me...
>
> ...now maybe you can get me out of another kettle of soup I got myself
into:
> In trying to get a decent file manager, I listened to the advice of
someone
> who recommended gentoo. It looks great, but it isn't in the stable Woody.
So
> I downloaded and started to install it using dpkg --install  .deb, but
> immediately ran into dependancy problems. Then progressing further, I
> actually think I managed to download all the dependancies needed, but I'm
> hung up in a catch 22: x depends on y so x will not be configured; y
depends
> on x so y will not be configured. Now I have a half dozen packages sitting
> there unconfigured that won't configure and I cant sit or get off the can.
I
> feel I should just get rid of the lot, but half of them are upgrades of
> current packages, and instead of removing the unconfigured new package,
> dpkg --remove xxx tries to remove the original...total madness at this
> point...what do I do just sit around with half loaded packages and wait
for
> Debian to catch up?
>
> Best Wishes!
> Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

Dontchya just luv when that happens? :)

dpkg -i --force-configure-any 

This steps in and configures the unpacked but unconfigured packages as
well as this package, so that when you are in this situation, all end up
installed.

HTH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:17 PM
> To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
> Subject: Re: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:49:31AM -0700, Michael Olds wrote:
> > Carel,
> >
> > OK, I got it.
> >
> > It was the permissions on the K-mail client program itself. It was root
> root
> > for userme and root is set to receive no mail.
> >
> > ...now...on to POP3 configuration...I am using qpopper. I see the
> > qpopper.conf in /etc/ but the package installed with no configuration
> dialog
> > and the instructions say to configure using ./configure which I assume
is
> > from the install directory, only there is no install directory...
>
> Those instructions are from the original .tar.gz source.  ./configure
> is used to create the Makefile prior to compiling the program.  The
> source documentation is usually (?) installed as part of a Debian
> package, but since it is already compiled, you do not need to do this.
>
> There is probably something else in the documentation which describes
> what configuration you need to do, if any.  Check the file listing
> "dpkg -L qpopper" and see what was installed.  Check any man pages
> shown.
>
> >
> > ...or...any better suggestions for a POP3 server?
>
> I have used both qpopper and cucipop, but am currently running popa3d,
> which doesn't require any configuration and is both simple and secure.
>
> Bob
>
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RE: KVM problems

[Michael Olds]

I have had similar problems which I have managed to avoid by using the
button on the switch rather than the keyboard (I have a two box KVM), and
also, you want to be careful that both machines are in a stabel state before
switching (i.e, not while rebooting, defraging, downloading, etc).

Best Wishes!
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From: Rob Weir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KVM problems


On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 06:21:40AM -0500, Justin Ryan wrote:
> Heya all..
>
> I use a 4-way belkin KVM and it seems to screw up my mouse when I switch
> away from and back to my debian machine.  I can usually fix the problem
> by switching to a VT and back into X, but the mouse wheel scrolling
> doesn't work right anymore (I can scroll down but not up).
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?  Oddly enough, when I had a 2-way
> belkin KVM i had no problems - just the 4-way..
>
> Thanks in advance!

Is it a PS/2 mouse?  They really, really don't like being hot-plugged,
which is how I imagine at least some KVM's would work.

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RE: File Manager Suggestions?

[Michael Olds]

Something that works like Windows Explorer, with full details in the right
hand window (permissions/users/groups). Actually Gentoo looks very good, if
I can get the thing installed.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

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From: Steve Waterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:12 AM
To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Re: File Manager Suggestions?


You're looking for a Windows Explorer replacement, right?

The closest I have found is:

http://www.amuletexplorer.com/

>From the author's FAQ:

"What releases are available?


Currently there is only a binary release for Linux and it's an early Beta."



So it's not 'ready' yet, but it does look good.

Steve




On Wednesday 02 October 2002 15:52, Michael Olds wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have tried Konquoror: I don't need, like a browser there and would
rather
> not waste the space, but I like the two-window setup with tree view on one
> side and full details on the other side.
>
> I have tried Krusader: it freezes a couple of times a day when I work too
> fast and requires logout and logbackin to start working again, it displays
> permissions in a confusing way, and it doesn't display full details in the
> second window well.
>
> MC is ok and I use it in terminal mode,  but I want a graphical version.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Wishes!
> Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
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RE: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions?

[Michael Olds]

If you check out sourceforge under desktop file managers, I saw a few like
this while I was checking out different possibilities.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

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From: Matt Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions?


hey there,

concerning file managers -- the one thing I really miss about Macos X is the
NextStep-style file manager -- hierarchies of windowws that expand
more or less indefiitely -- so not jus two frames, but four or five.
I really love that way of getting around, but I haven't seen anything
like it for Linux.  Has anyone else?

thanks loads,
m

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:54:47AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On Thursday 03 October 2002 08:18, Michael Olds wrote:
> > Something that works like Windows Explorer, with full details in the
right
> > hand window (permissions/users/groups). Actually Gentoo looks very good,
if
> > I can get the thing installed.
> >
>
>
> gentoo is packaged, just apt-get it.
>
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Gentoo File Manager on Woody

[Michael Olds]

Hello Gentoomen,

I managed to download and and install the Gentoo File Manager and it's
dependancies by way of:
dpkg -i .deb .deb .deb etc thanks to one and all for the help on this.

This first produced some errors but then went on to install and set up the
various packages, closing with the note that some errors were encountered.

Problem solved: There is a listing in the menu for Gentoo. Clicking on it
produces some strenuous effort on the part of this icon to conjure the
program which defeats the icon which then retreats in shame. No Gentoo File
Manager. placing --root-ok on the execute line brings up the program.

Problem: The Gentoo icon is UGLY!

Question: I cannot see anyplace in the CONFIGURE dialog where the font size
could be changed, it's too large.

Question: I do not see an option for or a way to set up so that a
double-click on a directory in the left hand pane brings up the directory
contents in the right hand pane: is this possible, and if so how, and if
not, this is a real defect.

Question: I do not see how I can set my own choice of editor. I don't
recognize what it is bringing up: I am talking about the default editor for
when you double click a file, not the button that brings up a program...and
I thought this would be managed by the system, not a file manager: i.e.
through file associations, where I have specified Nedit for most text file
types...but it is not using Nedit.

Finally, if these problems cannot be solved, Konquoror seems a better choice
for all round configurability on KDE Desktop at least, and in spite of
including the browser. So the question is, what dangers do I face just
uninstalling gentoo...considering the half dozen updated packages it
installed over older versions? Can they just be left...are they backwards
compatable...I have not noticed any problems on anything else.


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Where to ask about tc (iproute)?

[Michael Jinks]

Hi all.  I'm fumbling through my first deployment of bandwidth limiting
using the "tc" utility, part of the iproute package.

I have a simple setup working (I think), but since I put it in place, my
network has gone wonky.  After some period of time, we cease to be able
to see past the network interface (eth0).  "netstat -nr" shows the
gateway, but we can't ping it.  We can ping the address of eth0, but
tcpdump doesn't show the packets going by unless it's told to look at
the loopback address, in which case it shows the echo requests but not
the responses.  arp shows the setup of eth0 as "incomplete", and no
other entries.  Restarting iptables, tc, and/or networking doesn't
appear to have any effect; only a reboot helps.

I realize that this is a general issues list, but in looking through the
iproute documentation I don't find any reference to a place to ask
specific questions about iproute and friends, only a note from Alexey in
README.iproute2+tc saying "Ask me, if you have problems."  Does anybody
know of a good forum for issues like this?

Thanks,
-mrj
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RE: NAV detected a virus in a document you authored

[Michael Olds]

Several hundred members? Is that all? I feel much better about the list now.
On the other hand only several hundred producing this much traffic?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

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Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NAV detected a virus in a document you authored


You might want to consider not sending messages like this out, especially
for viruses like the one found.  The virus your application indicates it
has found is known to spoof the sending address.  So, you can be
relatively certain if you got it, it didn't come from the address
indicated as the sender.  Thus, your notification is actually causing more
harm than good.  In this particular case, your notification was sent to a
mailing list with several hundred subscribers.  For more information about
the virus listed below, see the following site:

http://www.commandsoftware.com/virus/klez.html

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> Please contact your system administrator
>
>
> The scanned document was QUARANTINED.
>
>
> Virus Information:
> The attachment rock.exe contained the virus W32.Klez.H@mm and could NOT
> be repaired.
>
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Installation On XP Machine

[Michael Richardson]

Hi,
I just resently bought a brand new hp pavilion 552 with Windows XP as it's 
OS about a week ago and I want to install Debian Woody on a partition of my 
hard drive. I noticed that your install manual doesn't mention anything 
about installing Debian on an existing XP machine. I was wondering if there 
are any special steps that I need to take when installing Debian on my 
computer that wasn't in the manual (including repartitioning my hard drive).

Thank you for your time,
MICHAEL RICHARDSON

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Repartioning NTFS

[Michael Richardson]

What I'm trying to do is setup a duel-boot system that will be running my 
current OS (Windows XP) and Debian Woody. My problem is that my hard disk is 
a NTFS file system and the FIPS program they say to use in the install 
manual doesn't say anything about repartioning anything but FAT file 
systems. If anyone knows of a free disk partioner that will allow me to make 
another partition without destroying the files already on my system I would 
greatly appreciate a responce.

Thank you,
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Debian 3 Woddy und Geforce 4MX

[Michael Hilgers]

Hallo,

weiß vielleicht einer ob Debian 3 Woddy die Geforce 4 MX Karten erkennt oder
ob man erst konfigurieren muss wie ein Weltmeister um das ganze zum laufen
zu bringe. Bin nämlich noch ein blutiger Anfänger in Sachen Debian / Linux
und will aber trotzdem erstmal ein Simples Debian mit KDE ans laufen kriegen
um mich etwas darin einzuarbeiten.

Kann mir da einer weiter helfen ??

Schonmal vielen Dank 

MfG

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Re: Too many open files

[Michael Heironimus]

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:17:26PM +0200, Fred wrote:
> -How do I solve this ? Echoing a different max number ?
> is it a definitive solution (how about the next boot) ?

I'm not sure why you have so many files open, but yes, you can change
the limit at runtime by echoing a new number to the file under /proc.
I'm not sure what the recommended Debian solution is, but I use sysctl
and add entries like that to /etc/sysctl.conf. The init scripts should
run sysctl at boot to load the parameters from that file.

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Re: kill no longer functioning, curious?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 08:47:31PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> I noticed today that not everything responds to SIGTERM anymore... 
> SIGKILL, SIGSTOP and SIGCONT still work, but SIGTERM does not.. in some 
> cases.

I don't know about the specific software you mention, but UNIX programs
can install custom handlers or choose to drop some signals, like TERM. I
think it's normal for login shells to ignore most signals.

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Re: simple shell scripting question

[Michael Heironimus]

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 05:44:53PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> command line, far as I can tell.  so: is there a way to pass these
> instructions on to ftp from a shell script?  I imagine this must be a

The first thing I'd suggest is using one of the script-oriented FTP
tools that was designed to work this way, like "ncftpput". But to answer
your general question, there's a shell construct called a "here script".
It works like this:

command_needing_input <

Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache

[Michael Olds]

Hello,

Before I break down and ask for help again setting up email which I have
thoroughly messed up once more...can someone explain to me why when I
uninstall exim apache also gets uninstalled? I am using Synaptic as my front
end for the package manager, and it is not too clear about what it intends
to install or delete before it gets done (still I find it easier to use than
dselect or aptitude).

Thanks,

Best Wishes!
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RE: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache

[Michael Olds]

Nevermind the direct answer to this, exim and apache share a couple of other
packages that removing exim tries to remove. The real question is, why am I
not being allowed to remove exim by itself? When I tell it to not remove the
two packages needed for apache, it won't remove exim. Why should it care if
exim is removed in broken condition?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

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To: Debian-User@Lists. Debian. Org
Subject: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache


Hello,

Before I break down and ask for help again setting up email which I have
thoroughly messed up once more...can someone explain to me why when I
uninstall exim apache also gets uninstalled? I am using Synaptic as my front
end for the package manager, and it is not too clear about what it intends
to install or delete before it gets done (still I find it easier to use than
dselect or aptitude).

Thanks,

Best Wishes!
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RE: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache

[Michael Olds]

Thanks Colin and Corrin,

I got as far as seeing the interdependancies. Removing Exim removes two
packages on which Apache depends. But what was bothering me was why I was
unable to Remove Exim without removing those two other packages...as though
I was not able to UNINSTALL a broken program, not that I would be leaving
Apache broken. It was not clear that Apache also depended on exim proper.
The problem relates to my ages long saga trying to set up email. I think I
had better start a new thread with a more directly related header for
that...

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org





-Original Message-
From: Colin Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Colin
Watson
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache


On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:17:09PM -0700, Michael Olds wrote:
> Before I break down and ask for help again setting up email which I have
> thoroughly messed up once more...can someone explain to me why when I
> uninstall exim apache also gets uninstalled?

apache depends on logrotate which depends on cron which recommends a
mail-transport-agent (of which exim is one). If you're trying to remove
exim in order to replace it with a different MTA, just install the other
MTA and exim will automatically be removed. If not, well, honestly you'd
be better off leaving some kind of MTA there, even if it's only there to
forward mail on somewhere else. Maybe if you tell us a bit more about
your requirements someone can help.

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RE: Uninstalling Exim uninstalls Apache

[Michael Olds]

OK, here is the problem, now solved.

I had managed to get Exim up and running, but was only able to get e-mail
delivered to root when root set up an account with my username. No matter
what I did with permissions nothing would change it. I uninstalled Exim and
Kmail alternatively and together and altogether (went back to Sendmail, and
tried Postfix), etc. nothing would deliver mail to the user. In addition to
noticing that uninstalling the MTA uninstalled Apache which confounded me, I
also noticed that when I uninstalled and re-installed Kmail no matter how
thoroughly I thought I had taken out all the left-behind Kmail files, up it
would pop with all my settings intact. (I thought these settings were the
real source of the problem. Ok now that I'm at the end of the story, I will
make it short: what appears to have worked is uninstalling and reinstalling
Procmail.

Thanks for the help folks! NOW I'm on to POP3 setup

Best Wishes!
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change modem serial port

[Michael R]

I just installed Debian on my computer and I guess I choose the wrong serial 
port for my modem because it doesn't work, I tried to find some way to 
change it without having to go through the entire reinstallation process but 
haven't been able to find one. Any help would be great.

THANKS,
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floppy sized packages

[Michael R]

Does anyone know where to find floppy sized packages for Debian??? I need to 
download them on my XP computer and then transfer them using floppies onto 
my Debian box. Or if anyone happends to know of a file splitter for Windows 
that will make files I can join with a linux program that would work too.

P.S.
If anyone's got any floppy sized packages handy don't hesitate to send them 
to me as email attachments, that would be great :-)

Thank you,
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Calendars

[Michael Montagne]

I need a good calendar.  Evolution is OK, but all I want is a calendar,
amd I want it to be speedy.  Gnomecal is my current chice but I can't
figure out how to add holidays and other events that aren't
appointments.  I also like the command line interface to gnomecal that
allows me to query the calendar very quickly.  But it doesn't work from
cron.  
The old unix calendar program offers me what I need from cron but it is
too hard to get information from when looking for free time to schedule
an appointment.
What is the popular choice out there?

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GPS shopping tips?

[Michael Jinks]

Hi all.

As a motorcycle enthusiast, I've got an itch for a GPS unit that will
mount on my handlebars and save me from ever trying to fold a road map
again.  Not to mention my propensity for getting lost.

As a Free Software enthusiast, I'm wary of electronic doo-dads which
won't talk to my Debian boxen, or which will do so only to limited
extent.  I'd hate to buy a spiffy new GPS unit only to find that I've
just paid for a bunch of features that I'll only be able to use if I set
up a Winders box.  For example I hear that the Garmin line comes with a
Windows app which lets you view maps, plot routes and so forth, and send
data back and forth from the GPS over USB.

I did find gpstrans (http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpstrans), which is
encouraging.  Has anyone had experience with this or any other
GNU-friendly means of managing a GPS device?  Any brand preferences,
gotchas, or other words of advice?  My googling efforts thus far have
been mostly inconclusive.

Thanks much,
--michael
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Re: [GENERAL] odbc with debian woody/postgres

[Michael Meskes]

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:22:38AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> localall   trust
> host all 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0   ident

Here you tell PostgreSQL to use ident.

> ps:  assuming I get thisworking, how do I add other database names to
> odbc.ini?  Do I need whole new sections (like
> "[Postgresql/dbname]") or can I just add the dbnames to the Database
> line of the file?  

Sorry I don't fully understand that. You define one ODBC conenction for
exactly one database, so what are you looking for?

Michael
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RE: how to install just one package from some other distro (likewoody)?

[Michael Olds]

This is great, except that someone asking this question is obviously a very
beginner, and will download the package and then, using a terminal, type in
"dpkg -i package.deb" or even, maybe "dpkg -i
name_of_downloaded_package_etc.deb" which will not help them.

1. Download the package
2. In a terminal: type: "cd /directory where downloaded/filename.deb"
3. Then type: "dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb"

4. When it tells you there are errors and it cannot be installed because of
dependancies which are not met: go back to the download source and research
the various other packages that are needed in order to make this package
work. Try Sourceforge for a good resource in this connection.
5. Download all the packages on which your desired package is dependant...to
the same directory as your package.
6. In a terminal: type: "cd /directory where downloaded, etc"
7. "dpkg -i name_of_first.deb name_of_second.deb etc.deb
8. cross fingers

-Original Message-
From: Cristi Banciu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: Re: how to install just one package from some other distro
(likewoody)?


On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:08, J.S.Sahambi wrote:
> Hi
>   I wanted to install avidemux but my "apt-cache search avidemux" did
> not give me anything. My sourses.lst file is:
>
> deb http://202.141.80.72/debian testing main non-free contrib
> deb http://202.141.80.72/debian-non-US testing/non-US main non-free
contrib
download package
dpkg -i package.deb


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Unicode on console

[Michael Meskes]

Hi,

does anyone out there run unicode on console? It's pretty easy to get
the console (i.e. the non-X terminal) to display unicode but I cannot
find anything about how to enter non-standard characters via my
keyboard. That is I'm currently testing a switch to unicode to get rid
of all that hassle with iso-8859-15 for the Euro symbol ¤ which works
fin in vim but not in bash with unicode. Also I cannot enter the german
umlauts on my console anymore, to be precise I can enter them in vim but
only if I also hit another key. In bash nothing works.

Needless to say that all works well under X.

Michael

P.S.: Please CC me on replies.
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Re: ISPs are blocking port 445?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:22:43PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> I know it's rather silly to reply on your on post, but I did some more
> research... It seems that our M$ using friends have some problems.
> Win2k/XP have a filesharing protocol on 445, and because most users of
> M$ products are so enlightend to choose a blank admin password, this
> is a security issue.

Right, I think it's SMB file sharing without NetBIOS. Some ISPs block
off the netbios ports for the same reason. I don't know of any other
standard services running on those ports, so it's rarely an issue.

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inode missing

[Michael Olds]

I always suspected as much...but what does this mean?

I have downloaded and installed the partimage package, and this is the first
screen to greet me: Missing Inode...shall it create?

I am running Debian Woody with Ext3 fs. This is the downloaded package not
the one that comes with stable.

I have done a Google search and looked through my books and I have a vague
idea what an inode relates to, but would like to know precisely...and also
is it safe to let Partition Image go ahead and create these?

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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Mount or disable devfs, was: inode missing

[Michael Olds]

Mount or disable devfs?

Device File System

For a good discussion of devfs see:
http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html#what-is-it

In attempting to set up and run Partition Image, I got the message:
"Inode Missing" /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc with an offer to
create it. I contacted the PI board and asked: "Can someone explain what
this is and what it means and whether or not it is safe to allow PI to
create the inodes?" and was told:

"In your case not (safe)."

"ext2/3 inode is almost like clusters in FAT file system."

"I think you enabled devfs support in kernel but you haven't mounted
devfs partition into /dev. Partimage can't work in such situation.
You'll have to remove devfs support from kernel or mount devfs in /dev."

"Cat your /proc/partitions file. If you read
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/partXXX you enabled devfs support."

I have apparently enabled devfs support as I have a fair number of these
listed, apparently one for each partition and extended partition.

"Now if you ls /dev and you only see hdaXX without ide subdirectory, you
haven't mounted devfs in /dev."

And I have no subdirectory /dev/ide

So the questions to the Debian folk are:

[As far as I can tell, this devfs thing is primarily of use to those with
external devices such as scanners and so forth. I have only one external
device connected to this computer: a printer.]

What are the advantages/disadvantages in my situation?

1. Should I mount devfs?
2. If so: how do I go about mounting it? I have read some of the
discussions, but they are generally on a higher level than my own. Is it the
same as mounting any other device? Do I need to mount each (one for each
partition) individually, or will mount /devfs mount what is need? If this is
an advisable setup, can it be set up to happen automatically on boot?
3. If not: how do I go about removing devfs support? Is this going to
require a Kernel Rebuild?
4. How did I get into this mess in the first place? i.e. What did I say yes
to that I didn't need?

A lot of questions; I am still reading, but I could use any thoughts anyone
here has on the matter.

Best Wishes!
Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org


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