Re: Spam mail question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Spam mail question -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam mail question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Paulo Henrique Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Spam mail question Hi, I will not reject. I will only send them to /dev/null. :)) What procmail rule is it? TIA, Paulo Henrique Quoting Noah Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 03:44:43PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: sometimes ... ( lots )... more often than not... i get tons of spams from ... which i too would like to bounce/reject OK, but if you reject mail from you're likely to be blacklisted. I certainly won't accept mail from domains that reject bounces! I am definitely not alone in this. I think you'd be better off trying to find a blacklist that isn't too fascist. I have had luck with the rfc-ignorant.org blacklists and bl.spamcop.net. Also, by the time the message gets passed off to procmail, exim will already have replaced the with MAILER-DAEMON. If you want to procmail any mail from MAILER-DAEMON, go ahead, but if I were you, I'd just put it in its own folder rather than /dev/null. You are risking losing something useful if you filter such messages. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Task application
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jamin W.Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:42 AM Subject: Task application Anyone know of a task tracker package for Debian? (Obviously) So far, I've been unsuccessfull in my search to find an application to fill this niche. The most promising application I've found meantion of so far is a GKrellM plugin called Gk-Taskman. However, this package was hosted on members.dingoblue.net.au which no longer exists (the company does, but they no long do web hosting). I'm looking for something with the following capabilities: - entry with no due date - add text/notes to task - configurable priority level (per task) I've found a few reminder/calendering applications, but from what I've seen so far all of them require a due date for their entries. I'm really hoping to find something that is more free form and more or less simply maintains something of a wish-list of things to get done. With the added benifit of allowing for prioritization and notes about a given task. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inserting carriage return characters [solved]
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:48 AM Subject: Re: inserting carriage return characters [solved] On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:05:57PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: Thanks for several helpful suggestions. I chose sysutils todos. The man page does not indicate that this can be run as a filter, but it seems to work. The man page I'm reading (from sysutils 1.3.8.5.1) says: The programs accept multiple filenames and wildcards as their arguments. You may also use them in a pipe. If either program finds its input redirected, it will process stdin and place the output on stdout. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading) On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:49:54PM +0200, Ronald Castillo wrote: I was thinking that I should configure my secondary LAN card (the one that connects to my internal network) in the /etc/network/interfaces card, but I don't know what to place there. I have already configured the LAN card that connects me to the outside world without problems. Well, if it helps, here's an /etc/network/interfaces fragment from one of my machines: iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.42.1 network 192.168.42.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.42.255 This brings up an interface using the second network card with IP address 192.168.42.1. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: Re: mplayer On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:23:37PM -0300, O Senhor wrote: Thanks, but i did compiled it, and works fine! Why the mplayer program are not in Debian release??? I did compiled, and maybe, can i make the .deb package... but if someone else already did the job, why we do not have the .deb in Debian official site The mplayer people objected to distributions including it for various reasons, and there were legal problems. These may be resolved now, but only recently. Check the archives of debian-devel for April to find a longish thread about it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIA 8233 ALSA
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:01 AM Subject: Re: VIA 8233 ALSA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 June 2002 01:49 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bert van Ooijen wrote: As a newbie, I've been struggling to get my VIA 8233 onboard sound working on my freshly installed Debian Woody system. According to the Documentation/sound/VIA-chipset file in the linux src directory, the VIA chipset is flaky (even under other OS's); but that file does describe the workaround which has been implemented. [...] According to everyone I've got to install the ALSA package, which I did. I have an OPL3 chipset in my laptop, and spent a very frustrating week trying to get it to work with ALSA and a 2.4.18 kernel. No combination of configs worked, so I abandoned ALSA in favor of kernel-based sound, and it worked. After reading that Doc file, you may find that's the way for you to go too. Maybe someone can write a good installation script/manual/howto etc. to once and for all settle this subject? I'm no newbie, but the ALSA documentation seems to me to presume too much! Since you already know how to reconfigure your kernel, you may find compiling VIA support into the kernel more intuitive! Patrick Greetings: Excellent info. I have the same via chip(ette) on this mainboard, and so far, have been unable to make it function. If you do get yours working with either drivers, could you drop a note to the list and let us know? Tnx and best regards. tatah - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+/VBZHBxKsta6kMRAiBuAJ0fJxDcJfzva4z1+1wqW+wIwh6/DACeLkkg oivPp6G61jfpQNDpWbylBJA= =q6Bp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:26 AM Subject: Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Task application
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: Re: Task application On Monday 03 June 2002 04:42 pm, Jamin W. Collins wrote: Anyone know of a task tracker package for Debian? (Obviously) So far, I've been unsuccessfull in my search to find an application to fill this niche. The most promising application I've found meantion of so far is a GKrellM plugin called Gk-Taskman. However, this package was hosted on members.dingoblue.net.au which no longer exists (the company does, but they no long do web hosting). check rpm.pbone.net for gk-taskman and other gkrellm plugins. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! Lilo Problems with NT and Debian Linux
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: gerhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:51 AM Subject: Re: Help! Lilo Problems with NT and Debian Linux Am Montag, 3. Juni 2002 17:50 schrieb Sebastian Canagaratna: Any suggestion for safely recovering so that I can boot up into WIndows, and also chose linux from the menu rather than always use a floppy to boot into linux? Hello, I think you can use M$ fdisk /mbr to reinstall the masterbootrecord of windows, but I'm not shure, if it will work under NT (I only run win98). So you can bootup windows (I hope so...) to backup c:\bootsect.lnx on a floppy or something else. Then you can try to start your root system with the rescue cdrom or floppy: mount /dev/rootpartition /mnt chroot /mnt edit lilo.conf or similar action lilo exit umount reboot Maybe you can find in these documents something useful: /usr/share/doc/lilo/README.common.problems /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz I hope that will be helpful gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port forwarding
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:34 AM Subject: Re: port forwarding On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:21:28AM -0700, ben wrote: On Monday 03 June 2002 05:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: hey ballo, for the last couple of days, your posts are showing up as msg.pgp attachments; i.e., the attachments have to be viewed in order to see the msg. Probably a function of the mail reader. Mutt shows them inline... -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam mail question - yuppers
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:25 AM Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers hi ya noah yes... it's possible to get dumped into the bl.. ( havent yet ... since i haven't implmented spamfilters ( on some servers - and did get blacklisted by accident... when going to open relay test sites to test one of my servers...fixed the open relay.. resubmitted and was out of there just as quickly... - online open relay tests http://www.paladincorp.com.au/unix/spam/spamlart/ http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/openrelay.gwif.html - am experimenting though .. :-) and the From is a nuisance from some spammers is a good thing to reject ( ie ... and is spammer ) - havent figured it out yet .. -- and in my silly preferences.. i do NOT even want the /dev/null to show up ( cluttering ) anywhere in my mail logs - which it currently does for some users that's been nulled -- and another dumb preference... i dont want the spam email to even arrive to be be put into folders ... defeats the purpose to have to go look at it ... usually being a 1MB base64 attachments or html'ized jibberish w/ lots-o-attachments ... - am currently rejecting most all of the html jibberish ( i think the senders dead.letter box is getting bigger ( which is what i like to (indirectly) see ... :-) -- i dont have procmail or any (additional mda ) filters yet.. - just a semi-baked but functional(?) sendmail w/ antispam turned on w/ check_local ... http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/sendmail.gwif.html#Macro - has RBLs turned on and header checking ( and is full of bugz :-) - lots of playing/learningannoying too fun thou... c ya alvin On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 03:44:43PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: sometimes ... ( lots )... more often than not... i get tons of spams from ... which i too would like to bounce/reject OK, but if you reject mail from you're likely to be blacklisted. I certainly won't accept mail from domains that reject bounces! I am definitely not alone in this. I think you'd be better off trying to find a blacklist that isn't too fascist. I have had luck with the rfc-ignorant.org blacklists and bl.spamcop.net. Also, by the time the message gets passed off to procmail, exim will already have replaced the with MAILER-DAEMON. If you want to procmail any mail from MAILER-DAEMON, go ahead, but if I were you, I'd just put it in its own folder rather than /dev/null. You are risking losing something useful if you filter such messages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIA 8233 ALSA
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: chiakotay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:37 AM Subject: Re: VIA 8233 ALSA -- REPLY TO : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I have an OPL3 chipset in my laptop, and spent a very frustrating week trying to get it to work with ALSA and a 2.4.18 kernel. No combination of configs worked, so I abandoned ALSA in favor of kernel-based sound, and it worked. After reading that Doc file, you may find that's the way for you to go too. I have a laptop with opl3 chipset and it work properly with alsa and kernel 2.4.18 I give some parameters to modules.conf es:irq,dma,io ecc.I look at /proc/interrupts for to allot the free one for opl3.In the kernel I have activate only the sound support and when running ./configure I added options:--with-oss=yes --with-isapnp=yes --with-card(s)=opl3sa2 Look the doc in alsa package that explain how to allot the parameters.I don't know why but the modules in the kernel for the opl3 on my laptop don't do a good work.When you are running the mixer,es aumix,it have not the line for the volume and is not aumix problem because with any mixer ther'isnt the volume line.With this problem I must to go properly alsa. excuse me for the bad english and see you in the next time -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:38 AM Subject: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and procmail individually. However, I'm trying to figure out how to make them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it. I've tried some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that didn't really apply to my situation. If anyone could point me toward some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it. I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity setup. Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do. We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the house, running a mix of Debian and Windows. I'm building a fifth to act as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as well. Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an SMTP server for sending. Pretty standard stuff. Their setup guide just tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape. This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail program and/or operating system on our network. I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP server. I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our ISP. I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to their own directory). It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually. I can just let it grab stuff every so often. Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together. Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the latter is set up? How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP folders? Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format? Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative that would be better suited for what I want to do. I've noticed that if I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine. It would be nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central IMAP inbox. Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way it is now)? With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they don't use my mail client anyway. Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts. One thing I'd like to do is set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be forwarded to both of us. My thinking is to create a dummy user account that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts. I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access (then we get questions like did you read that? Can I delete it?) The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up, I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages. Some things should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us. Well, that's about all I can think of so far. I'm still in the planning stages, but I'm hoping that good planning will lead to easier implementation. Thanks in advance, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIA 8233 ALSA
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:54 AM Subject: Re: VIA 8233 ALSA On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, chiakotay wrote (in response to me): I have an OPL3 chipset in my laptop, and spent a very frustrating week trying to get it to work with ALSA and a 2.4.18 kernel. No combination of configs worked, so I abandoned ALSA in favor of kernel-based sound, and it worked. After reading that Doc file, you may find that's the way for you to go too. I have a laptop with opl3 chipset and it work properly with alsa and kernel 2.4.18 I give some parameters to modules.conf es:irq,dma,io ecc.I look at /proc/interrupts for to allot the free one for opl3.In the kernel I have activate only the sound support and when running ./configure I added options:--with-oss=yes --with-isapnp=yes --with-card(s)=opl3sa2 I tried all that and more and couldn't get it to work. I'm not blaming ALSA (well, maybe the docs could be better) but since the kernel sound works I don't need it. Look the doc in alsa package that explain how to allot the parameters. Uh, well, that's why I decided to try to get the kernel version to work. I'm very happy, by the way, with ALSA 0.5.x on another machine with an SBLive board, so I'm not knocking ALSA per se, I just couldn't get 0.9 to go on my Toshiba laptop. Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X server setup
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jerome Acks Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:56 AM Subject: Re: X server setup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam mail question - yuppers
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:02 AM Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locale Q:
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jerome Acks Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:04 AM Subject: Re: Locale Q: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Task application [Solved!]
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jamin W.Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Task application [Solved!] On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:52:17 -0700 ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check rpm.pbone.net for gk-taskman and other gkrellm plugins. Perfect! Thank you. Found it embedded in a source rpm and was able to grab it with alien. Provides everything I was looking for. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:00 AM Subject: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question Hey all, I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin. All my incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have mail with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir. I'm using qmail maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs. How can I filter my mail using dot-qmail files? I know I need to use |command... Thanks! -Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jamin W.Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:18 AM Subject: Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0400 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin. All my incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have mail with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir. I'm using qmail maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs. How can I filter my mail using dot-qmail files? I do this with maildrop and a ~/.mailfilter file like so: xfilter spamassassin -P if ( /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ ) { to $DEFAULT/.Spam/ } and the following in your ~/.qmail file: | /usr/bin/maildrop -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modules at boot time
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Kapil Khosla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:33 AM Subject: Modules at boot time Hi, I got my sound card to work by doing modprobe trident modprobe sound but I have to do this everytime at boot time. I also did update-modules expecting that it will modify the .conf file and I will be all set but that doesnt seem to be the case, How should I proceed from here, Thanks Kapil Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get a 25MB Inbox, POP3 Access, No Ads and No Taglines with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Chris Kenrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:57 AM Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 09:38:37PM -0400, Jason Bleazard wrote: I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and procmail individually. However, I'm trying to figure out how to make them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it. I've tried some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that didn't really apply to my situation. If anyone could point me toward some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it. I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity setup. Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do. We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the house, running a mix of Debian and Windows. I'm building a fifth to act as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as well. Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an SMTP server for sending. Pretty standard stuff. Their setup guide just tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape. This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail program and/or operating system on our network. I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP server. I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our ISP. I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to their own directory). It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually. I can just let it grab stuff every so often. Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together. Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the latter is set up? How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP folders? Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format? AFAIK the standard way to pass mail to procmail is via .forward which is heeded by local MDA. A line such as |/usr/local/bin/procmail should do the trick. I don't know a lot about IMAP servers, but it depends on how they implement their mail storage. At a guess, mbox format might play nice with procmail. Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative that would be better suited for what I want to do. I've noticed that if I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine. It would be nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central IMAP inbox. Should be possible via a .forward or similar Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way it is now)? With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they don't use my mail client anyway. Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts. One thing I'd like to do is set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be forwarded to both of us. My thinking is to create a dummy user account that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts. I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access (then we get questions like did you read that? Can I delete it?) I'd be doing something pretty close to that, fetchmail to a special user account, then .forward from that account to the other two normal accounts. The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up, I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages. Some things should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us. The trick will be to avoid duplication of effort. Hopefully you can find a way to do some common filtering that applies to all your mail, and then apply specific filtering to your mail individually. Others might have some ideas on this... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIA 8233 ALSA
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:06 AM Subject: Re: VIA 8233 ALSA Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 June 2002 01:49 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bert van Ooijen wrote: As a newbie, I've been struggling to get my VIA 8233 onboard sound working on my freshly installed Debian Woody system. I'm running Sid instead of Woody. I have an Epox 8KHA+ mobo with the VIA 8233 AC97 onboard sound chip. It took me a long time to get it working, but here's what info I have. Attached you'll find my .config file for my 2.4.18 kernel. It'll help you figure out what options I chose in my kernel configuration. The only thing I have in my /etc/modules file is: auto Here are the files in my /etc/modutils directory: westk03[westk]:/etc/modutils ls 0keepaliasesalsa-path autofs ppp actions aliases.dpkg-dist arch paths setserial Here's the (relevant) contents of /etc/modutils/aliases: alias char-major-14 soundcore alias char-major-116snd # ALSA Aliases alias snd-card-0snd-via8233 alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 # OSS/Free portion - card #1 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss And the contents of /etc/modutils/alsa-path: # Debian ALSA modules path # Do not edit this unless you understand what you're doing. path=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/alsa And finally, a listing of my /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci directory: westk03[westk]:/home/westk ls /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/ ac97 pdplus snd-ens1371.o snd-maestro3.otrident ali5451 rme9652snd-es1938.osnd-rme32.o ymfpci cs46xxsnd-als4000.o snd-es1968.osnd-rme96.o emu10k1 snd-cmipci.o snd-fm801.o snd-sonicvibes.o korg1212 snd-cs4281.o snd-ice1712.o snd-via686.o nm256 snd-ens1370.o snd-intel8x0.o snd-via8233.o Hopefully these things will help you get your sound working. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam mail question - yuppers
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jens Gecius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:33 AM Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:25:40PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: and the From is a nuisance from some spammers is a good thing to reject ( ie ... and is spammer ) - havent figured it out yet .. My point was that if you configure your mail server to reject mail From then you are in violation of several RFCs and are likely to be placed on the DSN blacklist at rfc-ignorant.org. Please don't do it. Now, if you're not the postmaster at your domain, and are only blocking it for your own personal mail (e.g. via ~/.procmailrc), then go ahead. But realize that if you do then you'll be filtering out legitimate messages from MAILER-DAEMON in addition to whatever spam you filter. If you're the postmaster at your domain, use postfix and setup some decent header/body filters to reject the mail with an appropriate smtp-response to the sending host. Postfix is also able to pass such bounces (just tested it locally). Furthermore, you're able to filter hosts which do not have a valid hostname in their HELO/EHLO command, which is often not setup correctly by spammers. This is IMHO the only way to let the spammers know that they are unwanted. Although, if I look at my logs, some of them are just ridiculously persistent... Oh, and every once in a while I get caught by the debian-list. I wrote to the listmaster twice or more already, never got an answer. If I had too many bounces, I got kicked off the list. I could understand this, if the number of rejects is high enough. But, because the listserver is doing only one delivery attempt, I feel, the number (which I haven't figured out, yet...) is currently too low. In one case I was kicked off the list, even though there was no recent bounce in my logs, just accepted mails. :-( This, I didn't understand. One more nuisance: if spam hits debian-user and I get trapped by that listserver-soft, I get kicked off any debian-* list! If I would get kicked off the list I bounced, ok, understandable, but _all_ lists?? Anybody else around here to answer those questions? -- Tschoe,http://gecius.de/gpg-key.txt - Fingerprint: Jens 1AAB 67A2 1068 77CA 6B0A 41A4 18D4 A89B 28D0 F097 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam mail question - yuppers
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers hi ya noah yes.. thanx for the warnings ... have fun alvin On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:25:40PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: and the From is a nuisance from some spammers is a good thing to reject ( ie ... and is spammer ) - havent figured it out yet .. My point was that if you configure your mail server to reject mail From then you are in violation of several RFCs and are likely to be placed on the DSN blacklist at rfc-ignorant.org. Please don't do it. Now, if you're not the postmaster at your domain, and are only blocking it for your own personal mail (e.g. via ~/.procmailrc), then go ahead. But realize that if you do then you'll be filtering out legitimate messages from MAILER-DAEMON in addition to whatever spam you filter. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modules at boot time
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Chris Kenrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kapil Khosla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Modules at boot time On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:33:55PM -0400, Kapil Khosla wrote: Hi, I got my sound card to work by doing modprobe trident modprobe sound but I have to do this everytime at boot time. I also did update-modules expecting that it will modify the .conf file and I will be all set but that doesnt seem to be the case, How should I proceed from here, Thanks Kapil Please set your mailer/editor linewrap from 68-75 chars. 72 is a good default. You have a couple of options ... You could run modconf(same utility as runs during the Debian install), which will then write the changes permanently for you. Or just manually edit /etc/modules and add those two lines (trident and sound). More detailed info on how it all works can apparently be found in /usr/share/doc/modutils - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cfdisk error
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:20 AM Subject: Q: cfdisk error Trying to ready a 60g drive on a Promise Ultra card for first use. used MAKEDEV to create /dev/hde when I did 'cfdisk /dev/hde' I got no partition table or unknown signature on partition table um... does that sound at all right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:20 AM Subject: Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question Do you know if maildrop can use qmail's variables? I'd like to avoid separate filter files for every .qmail-ext I have. Thanks! -Paul On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:18:46 -0500 Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0400 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin. All my incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have mail with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir. I'm using qmail maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs. How can I filter my mail using dot-qmail files? I do this with maildrop and a ~/.mailfilter file like so: xfilter spamassassin -P if ( /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ ) { to $DEFAULT/.Spam/ } and the following in your ~/.qmail file: | /usr/bin/maildrop -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question Cool! I got it to work! Thanks!!! -Paul # cat .qmail |maildrop .mailfilter Maildir/ # cat .qmail-ext |maildrop .mailfilter mail/$EXT # cat .mailfilter if ( /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ ) { to $HOME/mail/SPAM/ } else { to $HOME/$1 } On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:20:08 -0400 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if maildrop can use qmail's variables? I'd like to avoid separate filter files for every .qmail-ext I have. Thanks! -Paul On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:18:46 -0500 Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0400 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin. All my incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have mail with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir. I'm using qmail maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs. How can I filter my mail using dot-qmail files? I do this with maildrop and a ~/.mailfilter file like so: xfilter spamassassin -P if ( /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ ) { to $DEFAULT/.Spam/ } and the following in your ~/.qmail file: | /usr/bin/maildrop -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [offtopic] esdl
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Roy Pluschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:49 AM Subject: [offtopic] esdl Greetings, I'm trying to compile esdl the erlange binding for the SDL library in order to get wings3d (a 3d modeler to work) to work. No Debian Packages :( The compile always barfs at this point: gcc -c -g -O2 -funroll-loops -Wall -ffast-math -fpic -DSHM -DPTHREADS -I/usr/include/ -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT esdl_opengl.c gcc -c -g -O2 -funroll-loops -Wall -ffast-math -fpic -DSHM -DPTHREADS -I/usr/include/ -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT esdl_glu.c esdl_glu.c:32: parse error before `GLUtesselator' esdl_glu.c:32: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union esdl_glu.c:34: parse error before `}' esdl_glu.c:34: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `eglu_tessobj' esdl_glu.c:34: warning: data definition has no type or storage class here's the relevant part of the program #ifdef _OSX_COCOA #include OpenGL/glu.h #else #include GL/glu.h #endif typedef struct _tessdata3 * eglu_tessdata_ptr; typedef struct _tessdata3 { eglu_tessdata_ptr next; GLdouble data[3]; } eglu_tessdata; typedef struct _tessobj { GLUtesselator *tess; eglu_tessdata *data; } eglu_tessobj; I don't see anything wrong here!! and its been driving me nuts. Anybody have any suggestions?? Thanks in advance, Roy Pluschke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED!] Re: lost route (network unreachable)
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Andy Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [SOLVED!] Re: lost route (network unreachable) On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 09:42:54AM -0500, DvB wrote: Michel Verdier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I tried running route add -host hostname.mydomain.com (though I have no idea if that's supposed to work or not) and get the following: SIOCADDRT: No such device Did you indicate interface name like this : route add -host hostname.mydomain.com eth0 That was it. Thanks! Thanks also to Andy for trying. Next time I start with basics! And you thought too much knowledge isn't a dangerous thing :-}. You are welcome. Hope you learned something anyway. -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kills Linux hdd's?
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Frank Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:56 AM Subject: Re: Kills Linux hdd's? Frank Brodbeck wrote: All worked pretty fine and then suddenly I heard this strange sound from my harddrive. It twanged like the read/write header of the hdd would somehow hang. First of all, the system just froze for several seconds but after short time the system started to freeze completely after such events and also the frequency of these sounds increased rapidly. Between my sister and I, we've had 3 20G disks die this way - one quantum fireball and two seagates. She has a 20G WD drive now (fingers crossed) and I have a 60G Maxtor. Maxtor and Quantum are the same company now though, so I'm really hoping for my sake that they've sorted out their reliability problems. Previously I'd never had any drive die like this. I've got a 245Mb Maxtor that's 8 years old and still going strong. They just don't build them like they used to. BTW. I am a Linux user, but my sister is strictly Windows only. This is a hardware problem - it has nothing to do with Linux. Matthew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Man page output
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Andy Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Man page output On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:01:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:54:22PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 06:53:50PM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: Is there an easy way to output man pages without all of the underlined text? I want to redirect man page output to text type files, but all of the files include squares or ^H^H^H all over the place... you already got good answers to your question, but if you need the text format to print it, the best thing is to use man -t something, which will give you nicely formatted postscript output. zcat /usr/share/man/man5/html2textrc.5.gz | groff -t -mandoc print.ps That's morally equivalent to 'man -t html2textrc print.ps', but more cumbersome and less reliable (it will fail if the man page needs a preprocessor like tbl). Yes, it is. One of these days I will change that alias. It seems to work with signal (7). Maybe there's another example where my method fails. Thanks for the correction, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache with Tomcat4 package
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: louie miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Emil Hägerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Apache with Tomcat4 package try, downloading from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/download.html extract and do this.. JAVA_HOME=/path/to/extracted/java CLASSPATH=/path/to/extracted/java/lib/dt.jar:/path/to/extracted/java/lib/too ls.jar TOMCAT_HOME=/path/to/tomcat export JAVA_HOME export CLASSPATH export TOMCAT_HOME tweaked! ty, louie... - Original Message - From: Emil Hägerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: Apache with Tomcat4 package Hi, I'm running testing with packages apache (1.3.24) and tomcat4 (4.0.3). 1) Is there a jdk deb package that works with tomcat4? According to Jakarta it should be jdk 1.2+. 2) What mod-jk should be used between theese apache and tomcat4 packages? /Thanks -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List as a newsgroup
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Juha Siltala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: Re: List as a newsgroup On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:30:15 +0100, Dougie Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just discovered I can get this list as a newsgroup. I tried this about a year ago when I first started using Debian, but it didn't work, so since then I've been getting it as a mailing list. Has it always been like this, or is this a recent thing. I'm not beginning to wonder whether my ISP didn't provide the group, and I mistakenly assumed it was only available as a mailing list. I'm reading this list and a couple of others via news.gmane.org. Works well, but I've never tried to post, so let's see if this gets there. -- Juha Siltala -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:17 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I was hoping someone who takes this position would either David explain why my ananlogy fails or explain why we really should David spend on all 11 diseases equally, even though this does not David help the most people that we can. If Debian's goal was to reach maximal market share, your analogy would not havbe been flawed. Were we trying for popularity, we would probably emulate the most popular OS there is; promise, and half heartedly implement ``hot'' features, cater to the largest category of users, worry about rate of return of effort. But that is not what Debian's goals are. We release when we are ready. We do not feel ready. We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that pleases our muse. If it is not clear to you by now (after having a stable release whose age is beginning to be measured in fractional decades) that Debian marches to a different drummer, please collect the refunds at the door. David I really would like to understand those people better, because David right now they seem as silly to me as the people who want rich David kids attend public schools to ensure that their money doesn't David buy then a better education than the poor kids get. (Equality David by holding everyone back.) I see. And insulting people providing you with a free OS is highly cogent behaviour? manoj who really feels like reposting the beggar on the beach fable again -- It is fruitless: to become lachrymose over precipitately departed lactate fluid. to attempt to indoctrinate a superannuated canine with innovative maneuvers. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: geforce4 420 graphics card problem
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Shaun Nykvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: geforce4 420 graphics card problem Hi all I am having difficulties trying to get a geforce4 420 card to run under debian. I am fairly new to debian, could someone direct me in setting up this card under debian. I am using 2.4.18 kernel and packages from testing Cheers Shaun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic Maoj, Nice of you to respond. Although your response seems rather overheated, I think it contains the core of a argument to which I can respond, so I'm going to try... We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that pleases our muse. Point 4. of http://www.debian.org/social_contract says Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software. I think even you will agree that, prima facie, my argument for optimizing the greatest possible user good looks more consistent with these priorities than your statement above. Do you really believe that the Debian community should not worry about the rate of return of our effort? Your argument seems to be that we should not do so, because Microsoft does so (therefore it must be bad?). I think the Debian leadership made a mistake in its decision to support more architectures than Debian could without negatively impacting the mainstream base. Amid mounting criticism from the user base, the posture of many of those invested in that decision has been to adopt a cabal-like attitude (this is our project and we deign to let you use it) rather than to try to reach out to the community. Frankly, your statement above is exemplary in this regard. I'm afraid that route will lead use away from the free-for-all, inclusive Linux world toward the high quality, but rather austere and unfriendly BSD world. please collect the refunds at the door. I think you are wrong to dismiss me, and so many other Debian users like me, out of hand. I run a large number of Debian machines, including web, file, directory, and email servers, and a computation cluster. I report bugs regularly and work with maintainers to squash them. I participate in debian-user. I maintain a collection (http://www.metaconsultancy.com) of Debian-centric whitepapers. I would be happy to maintain packages, if one of the ones with which I am familiar were to become orphaned. If that doesn't make me a member of the Debian community with a legitimate interest in the direction Debian takes, then Debian already is a cabal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: cfdisk error
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Barham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Q: cfdisk error Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to ready a 60g drive on a Promise Ultra card for first use. used MAKEDEV to create /dev/hde when I did 'cfdisk /dev/hde' I got no partition table or unknown signature on partition table um... does that sound at all right? u no. You have more than one IDE card in the machine, yes? And you're trying to set up the system to use, at most, eight IDE drives? The kernel is going to have to recognize the card and set up the connections - usually done during bootstapping. During boot, does it recognize: 1) The card (Promise Ultra) 2) /dev/hde ? 'dmesg' should tell you. OTOH, if you mean the 60g drive is new and is what is referred to in first use, and you just plugged it into the IDE connectors on the mother board, you may want to use dmesg and see if it's on a different device, such as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. I don't understand why you had to make /dev/hde unless you have more than one IDE operational controller in your system. Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: AE Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address I know that this is kind of off-topic, but I'm asking you folks anyway because I'm sure you've experienced the same as me. I keep getting mail, spam-mail about 40 each day, and I don't know how to get procmail to handle them. They all have a To:-filed containing some other address than mine, e.g To: ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Especially I get alot of those with a mail address inside , how do I get procmail to handle this. Roy BTW www.procmail.org is down at the moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that pleases our muse. David Point 4. of http://www.debian.org/social_contract says Our David Priorities are Our Users and Free Software. I think even you David will agree that, prima facie, my argument for optimizing the David greatest possible user good looks more consistent with these David priorities than your statement above. Our users. Not our users of the most popular architectures. _all_ our users. David Do you really believe that the Debian community should not David worry about the rate of return of our effort? Your argument What debian community? Who gets to decide how developer time is spent? Who do you think has any input in prioritizing the work that is to be done, and why do you think they have the right to do so? David seems to be that we should not do so, because Microsoft does David so (therefore it must be bad?). In free software, the tenet is those who do the work make the rules. If that makes us an elitist cabal, well, we always were. If that means that Debian no longer meets your ideal, well, sorry. What you are missing is even a modicum of understanding of the motivation for the people who put in the effort and do the work for Debian -- I certainly do not do this (working 20 hours a week, over and above the 50-60 I do for work, and trying to keep the house and lawn in shape, etc (I also happen to run an active DD campaign, but well)) for the unwashed masses. Do you know what motivates the developers? Developers most certainly do _not_ live to serve. David I think the Debian leadership made a mistake in its decision Debian leadership? The project leader has no say in deciding what architectures one releases. Indeed, a large number of sub projects must come together (boot floppies, build daemons, porting team, number of packages up to date, etc), and some one has then to finally convince the RM that the port is ready for release. There is no central leadership that makes these decisions. There is no command from up on high And behold, we shall release for 15 architectures next release. Pass along the bull whips and lick the developers into shape. Indeed, the decision to add an architecture is a grass roots effort, and bubbles up from below - by the people who actually do the work. David to support more architectures than Debian could without David negatively impacting the mainstream base. Amid mounting David criticism from the user base, the posture of many of those David invested in that decision has been to adopt a cabal-like David attitude (this is our project and we deign to let you use David it) rather than to try to reach out to the David community. Frankly, your statement above is exemplary in this David regard. I'm afraid that route will lead use away from the David free-for-all, inclusive Linux world toward the high quality, David but rather austere and unfriendly BSD world. As far as I have been aware, the majority of people working for free software work because it pleases their muse (or scratches their own particular itch). The user base helps by helping make the software better; in return for getting to use it. Anyone can participate -- by helping with bug reports and fizxes, patches, etc; and even getting a say in how debian works by committing themselves to Debian; no one tells any other volunteer how to spend their time. All that is needed is essentially Show us the code (or help us improve it). People are not excluded because we are the holiest of the holy and outsiders are dirt. There is no core Debian team. And users certainly are not in control; and popularity has never been a Debian goal. The ``community participation'' does have limitations. Telling me how to spend my time comes with the obligation of helping me pay my mortgage. My posted rates are $250 an hour. Anyone telling me how to spend my time has to pony up the moolah. manoj -- What this country needs is a good five dollar plasma weapon. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Sam Varghese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't change my password
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Marco Herrn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: Re: can't change my password On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 12:10:45AM +0200, Marco Herrn wrote: when trying to change my password with passwd I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd Changing password for marco (current) UNIX password: passwd: Critical error - immediate abort After entering my current pw it waits for 2 seconds then the error message appears. The same happens when trying that as root. Not even root itself can change its password. I now found, where the problem is, but I don't understand it. I recently changed my /etc/pam.d/passwd from password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 to password required pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=6 difok=3 password required pam_unix.so use_authtok nullok md5 When changing back to the first I _can_ change my passwords. Where is the problem? I _do_ have libpam-cracklib installed. Did I forget to configure something? Bye Marco -- An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. -- Marco Herrn [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GnuPG/PGP-signed and crypted mail preferred) Key ID: 0x94620736 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree 4.2.0 and KDM
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Nicos Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Xfree 4.2.0 and KDM On Thursday 30 May 2002 20:30, Stephen J. Thompson (CaSS) wrote: Hello all, I have just installed XFree 4.2.0 on two machines and found KDM has stopped working. Has anyone else encountered this problem. Does anyone have any pointers on how to solve it? I can only tell you that it works for me. I'm running XFree 4.2.0 and kdm from KDE3.0 (none from debs) and it's all running smooth. I had to hack the /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession in order to get window manager selection working though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: allmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:15 AM Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail One more thing... the to line in the /etc/fetchmailrc represents what the local user's account is... Michael van der Kolff A Perfect PC Gymea, Sydney, Australia - Original Message - From: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:38 AM Subject: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and procmail individually. However, I'm trying to figure out how to make them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it. I've tried some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that didn't really apply to my situation. If anyone could point me toward some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it. I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity setup. Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do. We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the house, running a mix of Debian and Windows. I'm building a fifth to act as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as well. Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an SMTP server for sending. Pretty standard stuff. Their setup guide just tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape. This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail program and/or operating system on our network. I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP server. I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our ISP. I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to their own directory). It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually. I can just let it grab stuff every so often. Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together. Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the latter is set up? How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP folders? Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format? Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative that would be better suited for what I want to do. I've noticed that if I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine. It would be nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central IMAP inbox. Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way it is now)? With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they don't use my mail client anyway. Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts. One thing I'd like to do is set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be forwarded to both of us. My thinking is to create a dummy user account that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts. I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access (then we get questions like did you read that? Can I delete it?) The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up, I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages. Some things should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us. Well, that's about all I can think of so far. I'm still in the planning stages, but I'm hoping that good planning will lead to easier implementation. Thanks in advance, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software installation question
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Software installation question -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:36 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic Our users. Not our users of the most popular architectures. _all_ our users. Please! Your last justification we do it because it floats our boat, not for the users was at least honest. One of your $250 hours would do more for _all_ our users if spent on a i386 than on 68k. This simple, irrefutable fact does not make 68k users second class citizens. If you want to argue this, you need to go back to the original metaphor and explain why obscure diseases deserve as much funding as those affecting large fractions of the population. Do you know what motivates the developers? I would certainly think so, since I am one professionally. And I (and I strongly suspect most other developers) get a much bigger kick out of doing something new that out of doing something old on an obscure platform. Debian leadership? The project leader has no say in deciding what architectures one releases. No say? That is flat-out wrong. The PL and RM may not decide alone, but they most certainly have a say, and a large one, in what architectures are supported. Most packagers will say okay to any proposed architecture (or at least would have in the past, before the woody debacle) because most packagers support relatively architecture-independent code. What seems to have been missed is that the few heavily architecture-dependent packages (e.g. XFree86) and the support infrastructure for the new architectures would hold up the whole show. It is precisely the role of the PL, RM, and other meta-packagers to recognize such structural problems and draw appropriate conclusions. Certainly the appropriate conclusion wouldn't be to ban any 68k package someone wants to produce. But it would be to say we will not freeze the whole damn distribution while we wait for them and the infrastructure they require. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Michael van der Kolff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:09 AM Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail I'd say that you should _probably_ use exim instead... My setup here happens to be cyrus21-* packages + sasl2-bin + exim-tls + fetchmail-ssl + fetchmail-common. It isn't that hard... what I did was installed said packages, chown --recursive /var/run/saslauthd (might not be necessary anymore - was a bug in sasl2-bin) edited /etc/fetchmailrc appropriately, /etc/default/fetchmail and /etc/imapd.conf. Oh, and I added a shadow transport option to the exim.conf file (just one of my niceties, not strictly needed, we only put servers into businesses, you see...) (attaching all relevant files)... You probably want to change all instances of /home/cyrus to /var/spool/cyrus or whatever the default is (I forget, but you'll see it when you install it). And you will probably also want to run eximconfig and just use the shadow transport section, if you see such a need arising. Then you'll have to run cyradm --auth login localhost (read the cyradm manpage) to add the appropriate mailboxes. Cyrus is probably the best IMAP server out there, and I'd recommend you get used to it. It is quite a step forward from the UW-IMAP server... Additionally, you can place a .procmailrc file in your home directory, which I believe exim honours. Also, you will want to change the entries in the /etc/fetchmailrc file to reflect your setup. We've gone for a multi-drop only because we have peculiar circumstances (ISP charging us too much per mailbox). You just have to add more than one server entry to get all the accounts... Hope it helps, Michael van der Kolff A Perfect PC Gymea, Sydney, Australia BTW, I'm only using Outlook express 'cause my linux box (excl. server) ain't turned on and I couldn't be bothered doing so (you _could_ find out such information from the headers, so I'm just telling you in advance). - Original Message - From: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:38 AM Subject: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and procmail individually. However, I'm trying to figure out how to make them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it. I've tried some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that didn't really apply to my situation. If anyone could point me toward some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it. I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity setup. Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do. We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the house, running a mix of Debian and Windows. I'm building a fifth to act as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as well. Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an SMTP server for sending. Pretty standard stuff. Their setup guide just tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape. This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail program and/or operating system on our network. I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP server. I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our ISP. I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to their own directory). It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually. I can just let it grab stuff every so often. Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together. Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the latter is set up? How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP folders? Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format? Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative that would be better suited for what I want to do. I've noticed that if I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine. It would be nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central IMAP inbox. Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just tell my mail client to connect directly
Re: Locale Q:
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Re: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1
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Re: Clear HDD of old OS, etc?
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Nicos Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Clear HDD of old OS, etc? On Friday 31 May 2002 19:28, Dave Price wrote: Hi, I am looking for a quick way to clear an HDD of old data, partitions, etc. I found this on /. thru a google search: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdX I wouldn't use /dev/random for that. It blocks when it runs out of entropy which is very soon in that case. It could take some days to get enough data from there. If you insist on pseudo-random data, try /dev/urandom. It might not guarantee as much randomness but at least it doesn't block. BTW: yes|dd of=/dev/hdX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)
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Re: Öлª»úеÍø www.machine365.com
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Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet? ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move forward together. ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures can follow when they're ready. I guess you're confident that the second option would only get 2 votes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: color boot text
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Nicos Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Barnes-Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: Re: color boot text On Sunday 02 June 2002 04:44, Tom Barnes-Lawrence wrote: Could it be possible to create a program, lets call it colourify for example (I don't know of one), such that when the init scripts run a program, they direct the program's standard error (or standard output if appropriate) stream into colourify, and colourify then uses the exit status of the program to determine whether it succeeded or failed. Having determined that, colourify then dumps the text that was fed to it in the appropriate colour- IIRC, the Linux console type uses the same escape codes as xterms and other things, which are in the Xterm postscript documentation. OK, I'm not sure that you could have a program receive another processes output *and* detect its exit status in one go, but y'know... I'm sure something like this is possible without too much effort (though you'd prolly not want to for fsck's progress bar things). _Theoretically_ (I'm not all sure about it), the init scripts return 0 on success and something else on failure. So you could in theory wrap the calls init makes into another script that simply executes the script, removes the final newline from its output and then appends the colored stuff. Since debian init scripts have a fairly standard output, you could do even further parsing of the string and perhaps do neat stuff like pritnitng the program name in bold. Just my 2cent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tuesday 04 June 2002 12:16 am, David Wright wrote: Maoj, Nice of you to respond. Although your response seems rather overheated, I think it contains the core of a argument to which I can respond, so I'm going to try... We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that pleases our muse. Point 4. of http://www.debian.org/social_contract says Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software. I think even you will agree that, prima facie, my argument for optimizing the greatest possible user good looks more consistent with these priorities than your statement above. Do you really believe that the Debian community should not worry about the rate of return of our effort? Your argument seems to be that we should not do so, because Microsoft does so (therefore it must be bad?). I think the Debian leadership made a mistake in its decision to support more architectures than Debian could without negatively impacting the mainstream base. Amid mounting criticism from the user base, the posture of many of those invested in that decision has been to adopt a cabal-like attitude (this is our project and we deign to let you use it) rather than to try to reach out to the community. Frankly, your statement above is exemplary in this regard. I'm afraid that route will lead use away from the free-for-all, inclusive Linux world toward the high quality, but rather austere and unfriendly BSD world. please collect the refunds at the door. I think you are wrong to dismiss me, and so many other Debian users like me, out of hand. I run a large number of Debian machines, including web, file, directory, and email servers, and a computation cluster. I report bugs regularly and work with maintainers to squash them. I participate in debian-user. I maintain a collection (http://www.metaconsultancy.com) of Debian-centric whitepapers. I would be happy to maintain packages, if one of the ones with which I am familiar were to become orphaned. If that doesn't make me a member of the Debian community with a legitimate interest in the direction Debian takes, then Debian already is a cabal. so your argument is that because debian isn't going in the direction that you want, all other considerations should be abandoned? mounting criticism? you adding your two cents to one other guy? as far as working with the maintainers to squash bugs, you seem to have 8 active bug reports but i don't see where you worked with the maintainers to squash bugs beyond the initial report. your collection of debian-centric whitepapers is a collection only in the most minimalistic definition of the word in that it consists of two basic installation advisories that hardly show evidence of anything near the effort that the word maintain, in the context of debian, normally implies. since, apparently, none of the packages with which you are familiar requires your input, it does appear that your current capacity to contribute is limited to providing this flamebait. do you really think that this, particularly given the rude and condescending tone you adopt, is a valid productive contribution? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: robert jorgenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: Re: mplayer i added those to my sources.list file and updated everythign went fine when i try and install it i get broken dependencies error it says package libdirectfb8 is not installible. Any ideas? On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:34:56 +0200 Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not have nothing in LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. The MPlayer is very, very good! The only video program, that is free, and i can see my videos (.mpg, .asf, .avi)... just fine! I want just a nice gui... if you know about another one Thanks! I am very happy with the unofficial mplayer debs from marillat. just add the following lines to your sources.list deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ testing/ and apt-get install mplayer-686 (for pentium 2 or higher) he also has debs for flash-plugin (apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla) just my 2 cents, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clear HDD of old OS, etc?
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Groen, N. (fds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: RE: Clear HDD of old OS, etc? On Friday 31 May 2002 19:28, Dave Price wrote: Hi, I am looking for a quick way to clear an HDD of old data, partitions, etc. I found this on /. thru a google search: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdX I wouldn't use /dev/random for that. It blocks when it runs out of entropy which is very soon in that case. It could take some days to get enough data from there. If you insist on pseudo-random data, try /dev/urandom. It might not guarantee as much randomness but at least it doesn't block. BTW: yes|dd of=/dev/hdX Hmm, why not ' if=/dev/zero' ? That device is made especially for such occasions. Nok -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iplimit
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: iplimit Hi, I tried to apply: okidz:~# iptables -m iplimit -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j DROP --iplimit-above 3 Unfortunately, I had this: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Kernel version 2.5.18, iptables 1.2.3. What's wrong? Thanks in advance, Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Keith Winston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:57:50AM -0700, AE Roy wrote: I know that this is kind of off-topic, but I'm asking you folks anyway because I'm sure you've experienced the same as me. I keep getting mail, spam-mail about 40 each day, and I don't know how to get procmail to handle them. They all have a To:-filed containing some other address than mine, e.g To: ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Especially I get alot of those with a mail address inside , how do I get procmail to handle this. A mail address inside angle brackets is a standard e-mail address format. The procmail filter at http://spastic.sourceforge.net handles the problem of getting e-mail not addressed to you through an allowed file. You just list valid addresses (or regexps) that can be in the To: or Cc: header in a file. All others are marked as spam and dumped into a spam file that you can review later. It has many other filters you can use for other headers, the body, valid domains, etc. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: his post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: Re: his post is not off-topic On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:02 am, Johann Spies wrote: On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me, I would not have been wasting my time on Linux. While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying the personal attacks in this discussion. I am one of the users you don't care for. That is sad. if you take the time to read that properly, it's clear that manoj is referring to sheer numbers of users, which is quite a different thing. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our users. Not our users of the most popular architectures. _all_ our users. David Please! Your last justification we do it because it floats David our boat, not for the users was at least honest. I see that you can't maintain a civil dialogue. I certainly do not understand how you come to the conclusion that this statement of mine is dishonest; but I most certainly am close to disregarding you as a rude, inconsiderate, troll. David One of your $250 hours would do more for _all_ our users if David spent on a i386 than on 68k. And this statement either displays a profound lack f understanding of English (quite possible, it is not your first language), or a worse grasp of simple logic. All our users do not use i386, hence the statement above does not make sense. Secondly, I doubt if the statement is really valid either, see below for my reasons. Indeed, were you a prime example of a user of i386 box, I would now be tempted to lower the importance of i386 in Debian (despite the fdact that I do not have a non i386 machine). David This simple, irrefutable fact It is not a fact, nor is this irrefutable. Uncovering and fixing porting related bugs leads to fixing problems that are generally flaws that have been hidden on other architectures, it leads to better design, often more modular, streamlined, and simpler, due to the resulting abstractions; portable software often is easier to maintain. David does not make 68k users second class citizens. If you want David to argue this, you need to go back to the original metaphor David and explain why obscure diseases deserve as much funding as David those affecting large fractions of the population. Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me, I would not have been wasting my time on Linux. Do you know what motivates the developers? David I would certainly think so, since I am one professionally. And Professionally, remuneration often is the driver; it is not a factor in volunteer work on free software. A quick google search for you email address failed to turn up any hits apart from postings of a few user lists; so I have no idea if you work on any free software, and thus have a first hand understanding on what may drive people to work on it. David I (and I strongly suspect most other developers) get a much David bigger kick out of doing something new that out of doing David something old on an obscure platform. Glad to know you feel that way, in case you ever show up in the NM queue. BTW, anyone who does not care about a solid, well tested, portable software is not very professional, really. Software engineering is more than just the latest 31337 cool hack; profession systems integration work requires solid, workanlike, professional QA work as well. I would hope that most Debian developers are not juvenile 31337 kiddies with a minuscule attention span. Debian leadership? The project leader has no say in deciding what architectures one releases. David No say? That is flat-out wrong. The PL and RM may not decide David alone, but they most certainly have a say, and a large one, in And on what, pray, are you basing this? When did the DPL ever have _any_ sayu whatsoever in the arches one releases for? The RM needs to bve convinced, yes, but he merely has veto pwoers, he certainlky does not add new arches all by his lone self, over the objections of people doing the real work. David Certainly the appropriate conclusion wouldn't be to ban any David 68k package someone wants to produce. But it would be to say David we will not freeze the whole damn distribution while we wait David for them and the infrastructure they require. I am so glad you are not the RM. manoj -- You can't expect a mother to be with a small child all the time, Margaret Mead once remarked, with her usual good sense, but in 1978 she shocked feminists by snapping that women don't really have children to put them in day care twelve hours a day, either. Caroline Bird, The Two Paycheck Marriage Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of
Re: Man page output
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Man page output On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:01:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:54:22PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 06:53:50PM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: you already got good answers to your question, but if you need the text format to print it, the best thing is to use man -t something, which will give you nicely formatted postscript output. zcat /usr/share/man/man5/html2textrc.5.gz | groff -t -mandoc print.ps That's morally equivalent to 'man -t html2textrc print.ps', but more cumbersome and less reliable (it will fail if the man page needs a preprocessor like tbl). I meant eqn and so on, of course - the -t flag to groff handles tbl ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: his post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: his post is not off-topic On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me, I would not have been wasting my time on Linux. While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying the personal attacks in this discussion. I am one of the users you don't care for. That is sad. Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch But without faith it is impossible to please him; for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List as a newsgroup
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: List as a newsgroup In linux.debian.user, you wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:30:15 +0100, Dougie Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just discovered I can get this list as a newsgroup. I tried this about a year ago when I first started using Debian, but it didn't work, so since then I've been getting it as a mailing list. Has it always been like this, or is this a recent thing. I'm not beginning to wonder whether my ISP didn't provide the group, and I mistakenly assumed it was only available as a mailing list. I'm reading this list and a couple of others via news.gmane.org. Works well, but I've never tried to post, so let's see if this gets there. -- Juha Siltala I read it as a newsgroup too, and if I find a post that has the UNSUBSCRIBE message at the bottom, I know it has come through the email list. I then try to remember to send it to debian-user@lists.debian.org so that it will go through the list and on to the newsgroup so that the person who posted it will see it there. I'm not sure if all the messages go from the list to the newsgroup or if any of the newsgroup messages go to the list. That's why I send my reply to the list if that is where they originated. That is what I am doing with this one. I am not a member of the list, but this still seems to work. -- Anita GnuPG key: 1024D/9EDAC910 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing from debian cd
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: lito [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: installing from debian cd I have a few newbie questions: how do I install packages from my debian cd? Does kernel source comes with the default installation? Why can't I see the source in /usr/src? Thanks. -- Lito A. Lampitoc Foundation for Communication Initiatives phone:+63(2)8941345 CodeWAN Project http://www.codewan.com.ph -- Technically, Windows is an 'operating system,' which means that it supplies your computer with the basic commands that it needs to suddenly, with no warning whatsoever, stop operating. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with fb, please
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: andrej hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: help with fb, please Hello, recently I've switched to framebuffers in order to get good results with my new Sony lcd monitor -- and almost everything is fine! I'm using the vesa framebuffer with an ati all-in-wonder card. And here is the first problem: when booting a kernel with aty128fb, I get a blank screen -- but no messages of inactivity from the monitor. I can even wait until the boot process finishes and blindly login to safely reboot. So I switched to vesa. And here lies the more important problem: since it doesn't support mode switching (on the fly), how can I use dvifb? It forces me to boot in 256-colors mode, which is not good for use with fbi. I can, with limitations, use dvisvga and zgv, but with the rage driver selected. If I select fbdev, nothing happens. How do I solve this? I want to be able to use the console for previewing .dvi's as well as as for viewing other images. Ideas? Thank you, andrej The outputs follow: dvisvga: -- This is some kind of a DVIewer, V01.03 (C)opyright 1995 Thomas Moor svgalib 1.4.3 warning: cant read startupfile /etc/dvisvga reading startupfile /root/.dvisvga initializing kpathsea, new style: ok warning: display: mode not supported on this machine. Now try -d640x480. Check your svgalib configuration. warning: display: mode -d640x480 not supported at 256 colors. Now try at 16 colors. This will reduce display quality and speed. Check your svgalib configuration. warning: display: mode -d640x480 not even supported at 16 colors. fatal error: display: Sorry. - And here zgv: -- Vesafb does not support changing the video mode svgalib: Signal 11: Segmentation fault received. Segmentation fault --- This is dvifb: --- This is some kind of a DVIewer, V01.03 (C)opyright 1995 Thomas Moor writefb: open: f(/dev/fb0)(VESA VGA) fatal error: writefb: pseudocolor, packed-pixels, 8bpp required ... try fbset utility? writefb: restore console: f --- -- echo ${girl_name} /etc/dumpdates -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:40 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 02:43:13AM -0700, David Wright wrote: I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet? Because those have always had the power to command what developers do, right? ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move forward together. ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures can follow when they're ready. I guess you're confident that the second option would only get 2 votes. Ah, yes. So the security team will have to support both potato and woody, because both will be stable on different architectures. Package maintainers will have to support wildly different versions of their packages in stable. All this until the other architectures get a new stable release - which, if we only cared about raw numbers of users rather than developers willing to do the work, would most likely be never. Great. Maybe it's time to fork Debian after all (which, incidentally, you're quite free to do). -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iplimit
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Nicos Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Re: iplimit On Tuesday 04 June 2002 11:16, Oki DZ wrote: Hi, I tried to apply: okidz:~# iptables -m iplimit -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j DROP --iplimit-above 3 Unfortunately, I had this: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Kernel version 2.5.18, iptables 1.2.3. What's wrong? Two things come to mind: - the iptables filtering HOWTO only lists a limit match - you should specify the chain before anything else and the matching rules last as a block. Try: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j DROP -m iplimit --iplimit-above 3 As I see it, iptables parses the command parameters in a nontrivial order. see the manpage for further info. -- Embedded Linux -- True multitasking! TWO TOASTS AT THE SAME TIME! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: insmod in /etc/module file?
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Mathias Gygax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Re: insmod in /etc/module file? On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 08:33:39AM -0400, Jule Slootbeek wrote: Hey i'm trying to add : insmod ide-scsi during start-up do i put ^^ this in the /etc/modules file? OK thanks, i just wasnt sure if running insmod ide-scsi was the same as running modprobe ide-scsi, cuz i knew that modprobe ide-scsi qould go in /etc/modules/ simply put the modules name into /etc/modules. you can (should) left out modprobe/insmod statements. so just ide-scsi into /etc/modules. the module will be loaded automatically on startup, if there isn't any mapping for a device nor autodetection of the module. modutils should automagically search for the correct path/version of the module, corresponding to your kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:49 am, David Wright wrote: Well, I honestly didn't intend to just get you and ben pissed. I honestly believe that I am making a valid point that reflects the opinion of a significant fraction of the Debian community. And you just might someday see my name on the NM list. So I'll try this one more time with as much dry, boring logic as I can muster. :-) I certainly do not understand how you come to the conclusion that this statement of mine is dishonest; I didn't mean that perjoratively, but I did mean it logically. There are two justifications for supporting many architectures on the table: (1) We wanna. (2) It's for the good of the users. your logic is flawed. you assume that a majority of users is equivalent to the totality of users. it's that simple. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: testing an email alias dont respond
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: arthur_dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: testing an email alias dont respond Hi all just testing to see if this alias works o.k. to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:01 am, David Wright wrote: your logic is flawed. you assume that a majority of users is equivalent to the totality of users. it's that simple. That's less flawed than assuming that a minority of users is equivalent to the totality of users. yes, that would be another mistake on your part. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: cfdisk error
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Q: cfdisk error On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:21 am, Alice M. Pinard wrote: [snip] now, the 'hde' stuff is new this login, which is nice... means I did at least that right. Last night I had no /dev/hde so I had to use MAKEDEV to make it 'cdisk /dev/hde' still however says the stuff about no partition table... if the drive is brand-spanking new does that make this message less unanticipated or is there still something probably not right with the situation? try using fdisk, rather than cfdisk, in case you've got something buggy in the latter. man cfdisk reports a bug: it doesn't support multiple disks; it may possibly have a size limitation also. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide bus speed
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: arthur_dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:44 PM Subject: ide bus speed When booting both mylaptop and a desktop I notice that during the boot sequence it says: assuming 33MHz system bus speed... Does this mean it's assuming a PCI bus speed of 33MHz? Does that mean the system motherboard speed. i.e. some p.c's may advertise a bus speed of 100MHz or more these days, I think.? Can you change this to speed things up? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: cfdisk error
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Q: cfdisk error On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 07:21, Alice M. Pinard wrote: snip Let me clarify I have one hard drive, 2g. It's almost full. The well-meaning bf bought me a 60g hd. My motherboard doesn't grok 60g. I bought a Promise Ultra ATA/100 pci adapter card to be its ide controller. Eventually I will be removing the 2g drive once I transfer its information to the 60g hard drive and do the voodoo necessary to make the 60g boot but that's further down the line... for now... I've installed the card, unwrapped the hard drive and attached it to the card when I boot up my kernel says (among other things) Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio PDC20267: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 58 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0b.0 PDC20267: chipset revision 2 PDC20267: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later PDC20267: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode. ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:DMA hda: WDC AC34300L, ATA DISK drive hdb: FX001DE, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hde: MAXTOR 6L060J3, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide2 at 0xd000-0xd007,0xb802 on irq 10 hda: 8406720 sectors (4304 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=8896/15/63, UDMA(33) hde: 117266688 sectors (60041 MB) w/1819KiB Cache, CHS=116336/16/63, UDMA(100) hdb: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hde: unknown partition table now, the 'hde' stuff is new this login, which is nice... means I did at least that right. Last night I had no /dev/hde so I had to use MAKEDEV to make it 'cdisk /dev/hde' still however says the stuff about no partition table... if the drive is brand-spanking new does that make this message less unanticipated or is there still something probably not right with the situation? Who made your drive? Most I know Maxtor has its own drive utilities which you could use to check the drive and even give it its first partitioning. Also, you said the system cant handle the drive without the promise ide card? Are you sure your problem isnt the bios not being able to handle it? I would check for a bios update, that might help out a bit. All this said, It seems to be detected properly, but the partition table may be corrupt. Also it seems that hde is set to pio while hdh is set to dma. Is this normal? I thought most hard drives used dma. This may have something to do with your problem. Maybe you could check where the bios on the promise card are detecting your drive and what it says about it. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters, rapper Ice Cube said. But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic Thanks for chiming in, Collin. Ah, yes. So the security team will have to support both potato and woody, because both will be stable on different architectures. Package maintainers will have to support wildly different versions of their packages in stable. All this until the other architectures get a new stable release - which, if we only cared about raw numbers of users rather than developers willing to do the work, would most likely be never. This is an important point. Woody, however, is supposed to support 11 arches to potato's 6. One could drop the 5 new arches without encountering this problem. Would dropping these 5 not help? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic Well, I honestly didn't intend to just get you and ben pissed. I honestly believe that I am making a valid point that reflects the opinion of a significant fraction of the Debian community. And you just might someday see my name on the NM list. So I'll try this one more time with as much dry, boring logic as I can muster. :-) I certainly do not understand how you come to the conclusion that this statement of mine is dishonest; I didn't mean that perjoratively, but I did mean it logically. There are two justifications for supporting many architectures on the table: (1) We wanna. (2) It's for the good of the users. (1) may well be true, but it's not exactly part of Debian's marketing rhetoric as embodied in the social contract. (2) is just not true. It would be, if Debian had sufficient resources to support obscure arches without hurting mainstream arch support. But experiment has proved that isn't the case. My original analogy was meant to illustrate, in a simple mathematical model, why (2) doesn't work. In this admitedly oversimplified model, your (rather expensive) hour spent on a mainstream arch is worth 0.98 * (_all_ debian users) while your hour spent on an obscure arch is worth 0.02 * (_all_ debian users) The irrefutable fact is that 0.98 0.02. Now, if your justification is really only (1), then of course this arguement is irrelevent. But remember we're talking about justification (2) here. And while I'm happy to grant your point that this model fails to capture the fact that portable software is usually better-designed software, and that finding bugs in one arch can improve the software for all arches, those would have to be pretty big effects to overcome just how much larger 0.98 is than 0.02 (yes, I made up the numbers -- but any reasonable guess at the numbers will exhibit the same large ratio). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing from debian cd
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: Re: installing from debian cd On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 06:03:27PM +0800, lito wrote: I have a few newbie questions: how do I install packages from my debian cd? Run 'apt-cdrom add', if you haven't already, to add the CDs to the package database. Then you have a number of options for package management: * dselect. Traditional full-screen interface with some quirks, loved or hated depending on whom you ask. * 'apt-get install packagename'. Good for simple tasks, although it doesn't tell you about all the package relationships you might want to know about. * aptitude (much better in woody than in potato, I'm told). Apparently as good as dselect with better user interface design, but I haven't tried it yet. Does kernel source comes with the default installation? Why can't I see the source in /usr/src? 'apt-cache search kernel-source' will show you a number of packages you can install. It's not there by default. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:00:18AM -0700, David Wright wrote: Thanks for chiming in, Collin. Ah, yes. So the security team will have to support both potato and woody, because both will be stable on different architectures. Package maintainers will have to support wildly different versions of their packages in stable. All this until the other architectures get a new stable release - which, if we only cared about raw numbers of users rather than developers willing to do the work, would most likely be never. This is an important point. Woody, however, is supposed to support 11 arches to potato's 6. One could drop the 5 new arches without encountering this problem. Would dropping these 5 not help? The new architectures are well-maintained, so no, not particularly. My impression is that the security team are not all that willing to support the six architectures from potato through to woody without the infrastructure improvements currently in progress, let alone the five new ones. We need the infrastructure improvements anyway, and once the central components are finished I imagine that the cost per architecture will not be particularly great. I should also point out that this is completely the wrong time for this discussion; it's way too late to even think about persuading the release manager to change the architectures that will release with woody. (Please don't Cc: me, by the way; I read the list. Thanks.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:50:54AM -0700, ben wrote: btw, do you want to shed any light on why your last post directed to me was routed via hungary? I believe that that's due to somebody on the list with an extremely stupid mail configuration that takes it upon itself to deliver to all the addresses in the To: and Cc: lines, rather than what it's been told to do in the mail envelope. This causes duplicates if the mail is To: you and Cc: the list, as the mail in question was. I've encountered this once or twice before. There's unlikely to be anything David can do about it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: testing an email alias dont respond
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:14 PM Subject: Re: testing an email alias dont respond On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:57 am, arthur_dent wrote: Hi all just testing to see if this alias works o.k. to the list. in case you don't see it on the list, it did make it. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic On Tuesday 04 June 2002 02:43 am, David Wright wrote: I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet? ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move forward together. ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures can follow when they're ready. I guess you're confident that the second option would only get 2 votes. ad hominem? since you obviously need to re-read this, here you go: so your argument is that because debian isn't going in the direction that you want, all other considerations should be abandoned? mounting criticism? you adding your two cents to one other guy? as far as working with the maintainers to squash bugs, you seem to have 8 active bug reports but i don't see where you worked with the maintainers to squash bugs beyond the initial report. your collection of debian-centric whitepapers is a collection only in the most minimalistic definition of the word in that it consists of two basic installation advisories that hardly show evidence of anything near the effort that the word maintain, in the context of debian, normally implies. since, apparently, none of the packages with which you are familiar requires your input, it does appear that your current capacity to contribute is limited to providing this flamebait. do you really think that this, particularly given the rude and condescending tone you adopt, is a valid productive contribution? where's the ad hominem attack on you in the above? as it stands, since you haven't presented any valid justification for your ad hominem attack on the maintainers, you might want to move away from that window. btw, do you want to shed any light on why your last post directed to me was routed via hungary? or why the ip address for www.metaconsultancy.com belongs to a block assigned to the university of washington? or why there are no client testimonial references at that site? after all, you did allege some manner of professionalism. i'm merely drawing your attention to the fact that it can't be verified. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: this post is not off-topic
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic your logic is flawed. you assume that a majority of users is equivalent to the totality of users. it's that simple. That's less flawed than assuming that a minority of users is equivalent to the totality of users. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing servers' UID/GIDs
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Mathias Gygax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Re: changing servers' UID/GIDs On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:43:02PM +0300, Imre Oolberg wrote: I try to keep two machines running Debian v 3.0 the same, essentially mirrors of one another. But stupid me, i probably messed up the order and installed Heartbeat, Postfix and MySQL with different sequence on each computer. Now i have same system users postfix, haclient and mysql with different UID/GIDs. I think it would be good to have systems the same down to its users' UID/GIDs. daemons which depend on hard-coded nummerical UIDs are the apt-get not worth of it. I believe i could quite easily just find files belonging to specific user/group and change them appropriately. But are there some hidden rocks i could run into doing so? What about Debian package management, for example? locate the nummeric UID (e.g. 100). find -uid 100 further options, like permissions and type of inode) I'd be very grateful for any opinions on that matter. Sorry if this question is already answered somewhare and you can kindly point me to that resource. just let the users be. glibc provide some functionality to lookup usernames to UIDs (cuserid and getlogin). hardcoded UIDs are not portable (beside root account) and should be avoided everytime you design a daemon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: cfdisk error
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Q: cfdisk error On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Elizabeth Barham wrote: Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to ready a 60g drive on a Promise Ultra card for first use. used MAKEDEV to create /dev/hde when I did 'cfdisk /dev/hde' I got no partition table or unknown signature on partition table um... does that sound at all right? u no. You have more than one IDE card in the machine, yes? And you're trying to set up the system to use, at most, eight IDE drives? The kernel is going to have to recognize the card and set up the connections - usually done during bootstapping. During boot, does it recognize: 1) The card (Promise Ultra) 2) /dev/hde ? 'dmesg' should tell you. OTOH, if you mean the 60g drive is new and is what is referred to in first use, and you just plugged it into the IDE connectors on the mother board, you may want to use dmesg and see if it's on a different device, such as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. I don't understand why you had to make /dev/hde unless you have more than one IDE operational controller in your system. Elizabeth Let me clarify I have one hard drive, 2g. It's almost full. The well-meaning bf bought me a 60g hd. My motherboard doesn't grok 60g. I bought a Promise Ultra ATA/100 pci adapter card to be its ide controller. Eventually I will be removing the 2g drive once I transfer its information to the 60g hard drive and do the voodoo necessary to make the 60g boot but that's further down the line... for now... I've installed the card, unwrapped the hard drive and attached it to the card when I boot up my kernel says (among other things) Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio PDC20267: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 58 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0b.0 PDC20267: chipset revision 2 PDC20267: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later PDC20267: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode. ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:DMA hda: WDC AC34300L, ATA DISK drive hdb: FX001DE, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hde: MAXTOR 6L060J3, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide2 at 0xd000-0xd007,0xb802 on irq 10 hda: 8406720 sectors (4304 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=8896/15/63, UDMA(33) hde: 117266688 sectors (60041 MB) w/1819KiB Cache, CHS=116336/16/63, UDMA(100) hdb: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hde: unknown partition table now, the 'hde' stuff is new this login, which is nice... means I did at least that right. Last night I had no /dev/hde so I had to use MAKEDEV to make it 'cdisk /dev/hde' still however says the stuff about no partition table... if the drive is brand-spanking new does that make this message less unanticipated or is there still something probably not right with the situation? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmplayer
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: O Senhor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: gmplayer Hello, Do you know about gmplayer? .deb files or tar.gz? I was looking for this package in the internet, but can't found it! -- - thesirbr O Senhor do Brasil. - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Ted Goodridge, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1 Color depths does not change anything (I have run at 4 different ones.) Apps that I know have this issue are: GAIM, Everybuddy, and Gabber. I suspect more have this problem. This leads me to think it's a X4.1 bug, but I'm not sure. Ted -Original Message- From: Nicos Gollan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:03 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1 On Saturday 01 June 2002 23:05, Ted Goodridge, Jr wrote: On many, many GDK/GTK applications, I'm getting this error and a nasty unhappy exit. Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) serial 12125 error_code 9 request_code 133 minor_code 1 Is this an X4.1 bug or a GTK bug? Has anyone else experienced this? I'm using woody with stock compiled packages. AFAIK, that error means the application tried to draw somewhere it shouldn't. Perhaps list some applications that do this and tell us when those apps crash. Also, try running at different color depths. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pleaz help with logrotate problem
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: José [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: pleaz help with logrotate problem hi all, i use debian potato 2.2r4 with kernel 2.4.18 i want daemon.log rotated 1x per month and keep compressed files 6 months so this is my logrotate.conf file : -- monthly # keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs rotate 6 # send errors to root errors root # create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones create # uncomment this if you want your log files compressed compress # RPM packages drop log rotation information into this directory include /etc/logrotate.d # no packages own wtmp or btmp -- we'll rotate them here /var/log/wtmp { monthly create 0664 root utmp rotate 1 } /var/log/btmp { missingok monthly create 0664 root utmp rotate 1 } /var/log/syslog { weekly rotate 7 } /var/log/daemon.log { monthly rotate 6 } -- -- and this is what i get : 17984 -rw-r-1 root adm 18389771 Jun 4 14:16 daemon.log 51412 -rw-r-1 root adm 52586881 Jun 4 06:26 daemon.log.0 3696 -rw-r-1 root adm 3776667 Jun 3 06:26 daemon.log.1.gz 3372 -rw-r-1 root adm 3445842 Jun 2 06:48 daemon.log.2.gz 3736 -rw-r-1 root adm 3819965 Jun 1 06:28 daemon.log.3.gz 3824 -rw-r-1 root adm 3909658 May 31 06:28 daemon.log.4.gz 3784 -rw-r-1 root adm 3866802 May 30 06:28 daemon.log.5.gz 4036 -rw-r-1 root adm 4126757 May 28 06:28 daemon.log.6.gz 3736 -rw-r-1 root root 3819965 Jun 3 09:07 daemon.log.7.gz any idea why my conf is not respected ?? thx 4 any help. José. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree 4.2
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Francois Chenais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:19 PM Subject: XFree 4.2 Hello, Where can I find deb packages for XFree4.2 ? François -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re:List etiquette/Thanks everyone
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: arthur_dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: Re:List etiquette/Thanks everyone Hi James Thanks for the reply regarding the printer. To be honest I cant remember how I installed it. There seems to be so many different ways of doing some tasks in linux it gets a bit comfusing at times. I know that my Canon bjc 265-sp was unsupported under one of the print setups, and that when I did get it setup the setup program asked you to send your snail-mail address to him for whatever reason? Tomorrow I'll try printing again and try lprm and see what happens. Thanks for the tips. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent...8 System Administrators for Frankfurt
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]).WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME?EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS.CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jon To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Urgent...8 System Administrators for Frankfurt Hi, We are urgently looking for 8 different System Admin candidates for a project in Frankfurt for one of the big German Companies. Preferably experience on Linux, Aix or Windows NT. MUST be fluent in German. Very Good Salary and working conditions etc. Please can you let me know if you have know of guys who may have these skills. Thanks and kind regards, Jon.-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael van der Kolff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:21 PM Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail Michael van der Kolff wrote: . Cyrus is probably the best IMAP server out there, and I'd recommend you get used to it. It is quite a step forward from the UW-IMAP server... Additionally, you can place a .procmailrc file in your home directory, which I believe exim honours. . Hope it helps, Michael van der Kolff A Perfect PC Gymea, Sydney, Australia Thanks for the sample files. I had more or less figured Cyrus wouldn't work with procmail due to Cyrus's database storage. For some reason I had it in my head that procmail could only copy the mail files to an mbox or maildir. Then after reading your message I did a bit more Googling, and came up with this article which shows how to use procmail to put messages in Cyrus IMAP folders: http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0408.ldap3.html So it looks like Cyrus is back on my list. I see now how these fit together... this is starting to make a bit more sense. Thanks, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Re: mplayer deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ testing/ i added those to my sources.list file and updated everythign went fine when i try and install it i get broken dependencies error it says package libdirectfb8 is not installible. Any ideas? it is in woody, http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libdirectfb8.html maybe you use potato or sid? just change testing to stable/unstable then # for potato deb http://marillat.free.fr/ stable main deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ stable/ # for sid deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ unstable/ if you are running woody, maybe it's time to do a $ apt-get dist-upgrade greetz, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide bus speed
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Jan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: RE: ide bus speed append=idebus=66 Good luck recovering that drive. Lets understand one thing here. The IDE controller resides on the PCI bus. The PCI bus (in affordable hardware) is 33MHz. ATA/66 / ATA/100 / ATA/133 has _NOTHING_ to do with the bus speed of the system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide bus speed
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: Re: ide bus speed arthur_dent wrote: When booting both mylaptop and a desktop I notice that during the boot sequence it says: assuming 33MHz system bus speed... Does this mean it's assuming a PCI bus speed of 33MHz? Does that mean the system motherboard speed. i.e. some p.c's may advertise a bus speed of 100MHz or more these days, I think.? Can you change this to speed things up? Thanks I'm no expert on hardware, so can't address your questions fully. However, you can persuade the kernel to assume 66MHz instead of 33 by adding the line append=idebus=66 to /etc/lilo.conf and re-running lilo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Ilmars Dinbirs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: exim It is possible to make in default potato's exim (3.12) support for lmtp? --- MicroLink ServIT IT department consultant phone +371 9227148, +371 7770104 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide bus speed
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: Ilmars Dinbirs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: RE: ide bus speed It's only mean that you PCI bus runs at 33 Mhz and this not depend to IDE controller speed. -Original Message- From: arthur_dent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:45 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: ide bus speed When booting both mylaptop and a desktop I notice that during the boot sequence it says: assuming 33MHz system bus speed... Does this mean it's assuming a PCI bus speed of 33MHz? Does that mean the system motherboard speed. i.e. some p.c's may advertise a bus speed of 100MHz or more these days, I think.? Can you change this to speed things up? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]