Re: Spam mail question

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- Original Message -
From: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paulo Henrique Baptista de
Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Re: Spam mail question

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From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alvin Oga
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Paulo Henrique Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: Spam mail question


 Hi,
 I will not reject. I will only send them to /dev/null. :))
 What procmail rule is it?
 TIA, Paulo Henrique
 Quoting Noah Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 03:44:43PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
  
   sometimes ... ( lots )... more often than not...
   i get tons of spams from   ... which i too would like to
bounce/reject
 
  OK, but if you reject mail from  you're likely to be blacklisted.  I
  certainly won't accept mail from domains that reject bounces!  I am
  definitely not alone in this.  I think you'd be better off trying to
  find a blacklist that isn't too fascist.  I have had luck with the
  rfc-ignorant.org blacklists and bl.spamcop.net.
 
  Also, by the time the message gets passed off to procmail, exim will
  already have replaced the  with MAILER-DAEMON.  If you want to
  procmail any mail from MAILER-DAEMON, go ahead, but if I were you, I'd
  just put it in its own folder rather than /dev/null.  You are risking
  losing something useful if you filter such messages.
 
  noah
 
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Re: Task application

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From: Jamin W.Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:42 AM
Subject: Task application


 Anyone know of a task tracker package for Debian?  (Obviously) So far,
 I've been unsuccessfull in my search to find an application to fill this
 niche.  The most promising application I've found meantion of so far is a
 GKrellM plugin called Gk-Taskman.  However, this package was hosted on
 members.dingoblue.net.au which no longer exists (the company does, but
 they no long do web hosting).

 I'm looking for something with the following capabilities:
 - entry with no due date
 - add text/notes to task
 - configurable priority level (per task)

 I've found a few reminder/calendering applications, but from what I've
 seen so far all of them require a due date for their entries.  I'm really
 hoping to find something that is more free form and more or less simply
 maintains something of a wish-list of things to get done.  With the added
 benifit of allowing for prioritization and notes about a given task.

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Re: inserting carriage return characters [solved]

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: inserting carriage return characters [solved]


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:05:57PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
  Thanks for several helpful suggestions. I chose sysutils todos.
  The man page does not indicate that this can be run as a filter, but it
  seems to work.

 The man page I'm reading (from sysutils 1.3.8.5.1) says:

The  programs  accept  multiple filenames and wildcards as
their arguments.  You may also use them  in  a  pipe.   If
either program finds its input redirected, it will process
stdin and place the output on stdout.

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Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:49:54PM +0200, Ronald Castillo wrote:
  I was thinking that I should configure my secondary LAN card (the one
  that connects to my internal network) in the /etc/network/interfaces
  card, but I don't know what to place there.  I have already configured
  the LAN card that connects me to the outside world without problems.

 Well, if it helps, here's an /etc/network/interfaces fragment from one
 of my machines:

 iface eth1 inet static
 address 192.168.42.1
 network 192.168.42.0
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 broadcast 192.168.42.255

 This brings up an interface using the second network card with IP
 address 192.168.42.1.

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Re: mplayer

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From: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: mplayer


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:23:37PM -0300, O Senhor wrote:
Thanks, but i did compiled it, and works fine! Why the mplayer program
  are not in Debian release??? I did compiled, and maybe, can i make the
  .deb package... but if someone else already did the job, why we do not
  have the .deb in Debian official site

 The mplayer people objected to distributions including it for various
 reasons, and there were legal problems. These may be resolved now, but
 only recently. Check the archives of debian-devel for April to find a
 longish thread about it.

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Re: VIA 8233 ALSA

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: VIA 8233  ALSA


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 On Monday 03 June 2002 01:49 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
  On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bert van Ooijen wrote:
   As a newbie, I've been struggling to get my VIA 8233 onboard sound
   working on my freshly installed Debian Woody system.
 
  According to the Documentation/sound/VIA-chipset file in the linux src
  directory, the VIA chipset is flaky (even under other OS's); but that
file
  does describe the workaround which has been implemented.
 
  [...]
 
   According to everyone I've got to install the ALSA package, which I
   did.
 
  I have an OPL3 chipset in my laptop, and spent a very frustrating week
  trying to get it to work with ALSA and a 2.4.18 kernel.  No combination
of
  configs worked, so I abandoned ALSA in favor of kernel-based sound, and
it
  worked.  After reading that Doc file, you may find that's the way for
you
  to go too.
 
   Maybe someone can write a good installation script/manual/howto etc.
   to once and for all settle this subject?
 
  I'm no newbie, but the ALSA documentation seems to me to presume too
  much!  Since you already know how to reconfigure your kernel, you may
find
  compiling VIA support into the kernel more intuitive!
 
  Patrick

 Greetings:

 Excellent info.  I have the same via chip(ette) on this mainboard, and so
 far, have been unable to make it function.  If you do get yours working
with
 either drivers, could you drop a note to the list and let us know?

 Tnx and best regards.

 tatah

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Re: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

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Re: Task application

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: Task application


 On Monday 03 June 2002 04:42 pm, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
  Anyone know of a task tracker package for Debian?  (Obviously) So far,
  I've been unsuccessfull in my search to find an application to fill this
  niche.  The most promising application I've found meantion of so far is
a
  GKrellM plugin called Gk-Taskman.  However, this package was hosted on
  members.dingoblue.net.au which no longer exists (the company does, but
  they no long do web hosting).
 

 check rpm.pbone.net for gk-taskman and other gkrellm plugins.

 ben


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Re: Help! Lilo Problems with NT and Debian Linux

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: Help! Lilo Problems with NT and Debian Linux


 Am Montag, 3. Juni 2002 17:50 schrieb Sebastian Canagaratna:

   Any suggestion for safely recovering so that I can boot up into
   WIndows, and also chose linux from the menu rather than always
  use a floppy to boot into linux?

 Hello,

 I think you can use M$ fdisk /mbr to reinstall the masterbootrecord
 of windows, but I'm not shure, if it will work under NT (I only run
 win98).

 So you can bootup windows (I hope so...) to backup c:\bootsect.lnx
 on a floppy or something else.

 Then you can try to start your root system with the rescue cdrom or
 floppy:

 mount /dev/rootpartition /mnt
 chroot /mnt
 edit lilo.conf or similar action
 lilo
 exit
 umount
 reboot

 Maybe you can find in these documents something useful:
 /usr/share/doc/lilo/README.common.problems
 /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz

 I hope that will be helpful

 gerhard


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Re: port forwarding

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From: Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: port forwarding


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:21:28AM -0700, ben wrote:
  On Monday 03 June 2002 05:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
 
  hey ballo, for the last couple of days, your posts are showing up as
msg.pgp
  attachments; i.e., the attachments have to be viewed in order to see the
msg.

 Probably a function of the mail reader. Mutt shows them inline...

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Re: Spam mail question - yuppers

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From: Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED];
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers



 hi ya noah

 yes...  it's possible to get dumped into the bl..
 ( havent yet ... since i haven't implmented spamfilters
 ( on some servers

 - and did get blacklisted by accident... when going to
 open relay test sites to test one of my servers...fixed
 the open relay.. resubmitted and was  out of there just
 as quickly...
 - online open relay tests
 http://www.paladincorp.com.au/unix/spam/spamlart/
 http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/openrelay.gwif.html

 - am experimenting though .. :-)
 and the From  is a nuisance from some spammers is a
 good thing to reject  ( ie ...  and is spammer )
 - havent figured it out yet ..

 -- and in my silly preferences.. i do NOT even want the /dev/null to
show up ( cluttering ) anywhere in my mail logs
 - which it currently does for some users that's been nulled

 -- and another dumb preference... i dont want the spam email to even
arrive to be be put into folders ... defeats the purpose to have to go
look at it ... usually being a 1MB base64 attachments or html'ized
jibberish w/ lots-o-attachments ...
 - am currently rejecting most all of the html jibberish

 ( i think the senders dead.letter box is getting bigger
 ( which is what i like to (indirectly) see ... :-)

 -- i dont have procmail or any (additional mda ) filters yet..
 - just a semi-baked but functional(?) sendmail w/ antispam turned
 on w/ check_local ...

 http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/sendmail.gwif.html#Macro
 - has RBLs turned on and header checking
 ( and is full of bugz  :-)

 - lots of playing/learningannoying too  fun thou...

 c ya
 alvin


 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 03:44:43PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
  
   sometimes ... ( lots )... more often than not...
   i get tons of spams from   ... which i too would like to
bounce/reject
 
  OK, but if you reject mail from  you're likely to be blacklisted.  I
  certainly won't accept mail from domains that reject bounces!  I am
  definitely not alone in this.  I think you'd be better off trying to
  find a blacklist that isn't too fascist.  I have had luck with the
  rfc-ignorant.org blacklists and bl.spamcop.net.
 
  Also, by the time the message gets passed off to procmail, exim will
  already have replaced the  with MAILER-DAEMON.  If you want to
  procmail any mail from MAILER-DAEMON, go ahead, but if I were you, I'd
  just put it in its own folder rather than /dev/null.  You are risking
  losing something useful if you filter such messages.
 


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Re: VIA 8233 ALSA

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: VIA 8233  ALSA




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  I have an OPL3 chipset in my laptop, and spent a very frustrating week
  trying to get it to work with ALSA and a 2.4.18 kernel.  No combination
of
  configs worked, so I abandoned ALSA in favor of kernel-based sound, and
it
  worked.  After reading that Doc file, you may find that's the way for
you
  to go too.
 

 I have a laptop with opl3 chipset and it work properly with alsa and
 kernel 2.4.18
 I give some parameters to modules.conf es:irq,dma,io ecc.I look at
 /proc/interrupts for to allot  the free one for opl3.In the kernel I
 have activate only the sound support and when running ./configure I
 added options:--with-oss=yes --with-isapnp=yes --with-card(s)=opl3sa2
 Look the doc in alsa
 package that explain how to allot the parameters.I don't know why but the
 modules in the kernel for the opl3 on my laptop don't do a good work.When
 you are running the mixer,es aumix,it have not the line for the volume and
  is not aumix problem because with any mixer ther'isnt the volume
 line.With this problem I must to go properly alsa.
 excuse me for the bad english and see you in the next time


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Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:38 AM
Subject: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail


 I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and
 procmail individually.  However, I'm trying to figure out how to make
 them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it.  I've tried
 some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that
 didn't really apply to my situation.  If anyone could point me toward
 some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it.
 I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail
 to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity
 setup.

 Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do.

 We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the
 house, running a mix of Debian and Windows.  I'm building a fifth to act
 as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as
 well.

 Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an
 SMTP server for sending.  Pretty standard stuff.  Their setup guide just
 tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape.
 This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail
 program and/or operating system on our network.

 I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP
 server.  I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our
 ISP.  I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to
 different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to
 their own directory).  It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much
 all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually.  I
 can just let it grab stuff every so often.

 Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together.
 Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the
 latter is set up?  How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP
 folders?  Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format?

 Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative
 that would be better suited for what I want to do.  I've noticed that if
 I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so
 I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine.  It would be
 nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central
 IMAP inbox.

 Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just
 tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way
 it is now)?  With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd
 need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they
 don't use my mail client anyway.

 Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts.  One thing I'd like to do is
 set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be
 forwarded to both of us.  My thinking is to create a dummy user account
 that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's
 procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts.
 I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access
 (then we get questions like did you read that?  Can I delete it?)

 The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up,
 I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages.  Some things
 should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us.

 Well, that's about all I can think of so far.  I'm still in the planning
 stages, but I'm hoping that good planning will lead to easier
 implementation.

 Thanks in advance,
 Jason


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Re: VIA 8233 ALSA

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From: Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: VIA 8233  ALSA


 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, chiakotay wrote (in response to me):

   I have an OPL3 chipset in my laptop, and spent a very frustrating week
   trying to get it to work with ALSA and a 2.4.18 kernel.  No
combination of
   configs worked, so I abandoned ALSA in favor of kernel-based sound,
and it
   worked.  After reading that Doc file, you may find that's the way for
you
   to go too.
  

  I have a laptop with opl3 chipset and it work properly with alsa and
  kernel 2.4.18 I give some parameters to modules.conf es:irq,dma,io
  ecc.I look at /proc/interrupts for to allot the free one for opl3.In
  the kernel I have activate only the sound support and when running
  ./configure I added options:--with-oss=yes --with-isapnp=yes
  --with-card(s)=opl3sa2

 I tried all that and more and couldn't get it to work.  I'm not blaming
 ALSA (well, maybe the docs could be better) but since the kernel sound
 works I don't need it.

  Look the doc in alsa package that explain how to allot the parameters.

 Uh, well, that's why I decided to try to get the kernel version to work.

 I'm very happy, by the way, with ALSA 0.5.x on another machine with an
 SBLive board, so I'm not knocking ALSA per se, I just couldn't get 0.9 to
 go on my Toshiba laptop.

 Patrick

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Re: Task application [Solved!]

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 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:52:17 -0700
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  check rpm.pbone.net for gk-taskman and other gkrellm plugins.

 Perfect!  Thank you.  Found it embedded in a source rpm and was able to
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Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question

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 Hey all,
 I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin.  All my incoming
mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have mail with spam
status of Yes put into a separate maildir.  I'm using qmail maildirs, and
I'd like to continue using maildirs.  How can I filter my mail using
dot-qmail files?

 I know I need to use |command...

 Thanks!
 -Paul


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 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0400
 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin.  All my
  incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have mail
  with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir.  I'm using qmail
  maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs.  How can I filter my
  mail using dot-qmail files?

 I do this with maildrop and a ~/.mailfilter file like so:

 xfilter spamassassin -P

 if ( /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ )
 {
to $DEFAULT/.Spam/
 }

 and the following in your ~/.qmail file:

 | /usr/bin/maildrop

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Re: Modules at boot time

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 Hi,
 I got my sound card to work by doing
 modprobe trident
 modprobe sound
 but I have to do this everytime at boot time.
 I also did update-modules expecting that it will modify the .conf file and
I will be all set but that doesnt seem to be the case,
 How should I proceed from here,
 Thanks
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Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail

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 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 09:38:37PM -0400, Jason Bleazard wrote:
  I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and
  procmail individually.  However, I'm trying to figure out how to make
  them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it.  I've tried
  some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that
  didn't really apply to my situation.  If anyone could point me toward
  some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it.
  I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail
  to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity
  setup.
 
  Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do.
 
  We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the
  house, running a mix of Debian and Windows.  I'm building a fifth to act
  as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as
  well.
 
  Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an
  SMTP server for sending.  Pretty standard stuff.  Their setup guide just
  tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape.
  This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail
  program and/or operating system on our network.
 
  I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP
  server.  I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our
  ISP.  I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to
  different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to
  their own directory).  It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much
  all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually.  I
  can just let it grab stuff every so often.
 
  Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together.
  Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the
  latter is set up?  How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP
  folders?  Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format?

 AFAIK the standard way to pass mail to procmail is via .forward which is
 heeded by local MDA.  A line such as |/usr/local/bin/procmail should do
 the trick.  I don't know a lot about IMAP servers, but it depends on how
 they implement their mail storage.  At a guess, mbox format might play
 nice with procmail.

 
  Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative
  that would be better suited for what I want to do.  I've noticed that if
  I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so
  I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine.  It would be
  nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central
  IMAP inbox.

 Should be possible via a .forward or similar
 
  Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just
  tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way
  it is now)?  With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd
  need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they
  don't use my mail client anyway.
 
  Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts.  One thing I'd like to do is
  set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be
  forwarded to both of us.  My thinking is to create a dummy user account
  that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's
  procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts.
  I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access
  (then we get questions like did you read that?  Can I delete it?)

 I'd be doing something pretty close to that, fetchmail to a special
 user account, then .forward from that account to the other two normal
 accounts.
 
  The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up,
  I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages.  Some things
  should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us.

 The trick will be to avoid duplication of effort.  Hopefully you can
 find a way to do some common filtering that applies to all your mail,
 and then apply specific filtering to your mail individually.  Others
 might have some ideas on this...


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Re: VIA 8233 ALSA

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 Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Monday 03 June 2002 01:49 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bert van Ooijen wrote:
 
 
 As a newbie, I've been struggling to get my VIA 8233 onboard sound
 working on my freshly installed Debian Woody system.
 
 I'm running Sid instead of Woody. I have an Epox 8KHA+ mobo with the VIA
 8233 AC97 onboard sound chip. It took me a long time to get it working,
 but here's what info I have.

 Attached you'll find my .config file for my 2.4.18 kernel. It'll help
 you figure out what options I chose in my kernel configuration.

 The only thing I have in my /etc/modules file is:
 auto

 Here are the files in my /etc/modutils directory:
 westk03[westk]:/etc/modutils ls
 0keepaliasesalsa-path  autofs  ppp
 actions  aliases.dpkg-dist  arch   paths   setserial

 Here's the (relevant) contents of /etc/modutils/aliases:
 alias char-major-14 soundcore
 alias char-major-116snd
 # ALSA Aliases
 alias snd-card-0snd-via8233
 alias sound-slot-0  snd-card-0
 # OSS/Free portion - card #1
 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
 alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
 alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
 alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
 alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

 And the contents of /etc/modutils/alsa-path:
 # Debian ALSA modules path
 # Do not edit this unless you understand what you're doing.
 path=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/alsa

 And finally, a listing of my /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci
directory:
 westk03[westk]:/home/westk ls /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/
 ac97  pdplus snd-ens1371.o   snd-maestro3.otrident
 ali5451   rme9652snd-es1938.osnd-rme32.o   ymfpci
 cs46xxsnd-als4000.o  snd-es1968.osnd-rme96.o
 emu10k1   snd-cmipci.o   snd-fm801.o snd-sonicvibes.o
 korg1212  snd-cs4281.o   snd-ice1712.o   snd-via686.o
 nm256 snd-ens1370.o  snd-intel8x0.o  snd-via8233.o

 Hopefully these things will help you get your sound working.

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Re: Spam mail question - yuppers

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To: Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers


 Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:25:40PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
  and the From  is a nuisance from some spammers is a
  good thing to reject  ( ie ...  and is spammer )
  - havent figured it out yet ..
 
  My point was that if you configure your mail server to reject mail
  From  then you are in violation of several RFCs and are likely to be
  placed on the DSN blacklist at rfc-ignorant.org.  Please don't do it.
 
  Now, if you're not the postmaster at your domain, and are only blocking
  it for your own personal mail (e.g. via ~/.procmailrc), then go ahead.
  But realize that if you do then you'll be filtering out legitimate
  messages from MAILER-DAEMON in addition to whatever spam you filter.

 If you're the postmaster at your domain, use postfix and setup some
 decent header/body filters to reject the mail with an appropriate
 smtp-response to the sending host. Postfix is also able to pass such
  bounces (just tested it locally). Furthermore, you're able to
 filter hosts which do not have a valid hostname in their HELO/EHLO
 command, which is often not setup correctly by spammers.

 This is IMHO the only way to let the spammers know that they are
 unwanted. Although, if I look at my logs, some of them are just
 ridiculously persistent...

 Oh, and every once in a while I get caught by the debian-list.

 I wrote to the listmaster twice or more already, never got an answer.
 If I had too many bounces, I got kicked off the list.

 I could understand this, if the number of rejects is high enough. But,
 because the listserver is doing only one delivery attempt, I feel, the
 number (which I haven't figured out, yet...) is currently too low.

 In one case I was kicked off the list, even though there was no recent
 bounce in my logs, just accepted mails. :-( This, I didn't understand.

 One more nuisance: if spam hits debian-user and I get trapped by that
 listserver-soft, I get kicked off any debian-* list!

 If I would get kicked off the list I bounced, ok, understandable, but
 _all_ lists??

 Anybody else around here to answer those questions?

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 hi ya noah

 yes.. thanx for the warnings ...


 have fun
 alvin

 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:25:40PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
   and the From  is a nuisance from some spammers is a
   good thing to reject  ( ie ...  and is spammer )
   - havent figured it out yet ..
 
  My point was that if you configure your mail server to reject mail
  From  then you are in violation of several RFCs and are likely to be
  placed on the DSN blacklist at rfc-ignorant.org.  Please don't do it.
 
  Now, if you're not the postmaster at your domain, and are only blocking
  it for your own personal mail (e.g. via ~/.procmailrc), then go ahead.
  But realize that if you do then you'll be filtering out legitimate
  messages from MAILER-DAEMON in addition to whatever spam you filter.
 
  noah
 
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Re: Modules at boot time

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To: Kapil Khosla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Modules at boot time


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:33:55PM -0400, Kapil Khosla wrote:
  Hi,
  I got my sound card to work by doing
  modprobe trident
  modprobe sound
  but I have to do this everytime at boot time.
  I also did update-modules expecting that it will modify the .conf file
and I will be all set but that doesnt seem to be the case,
  How should I proceed from here,
  Thanks
  Kapil

 Please set your mailer/editor linewrap from 68-75 chars.  72 is a good
default.

 You have a couple of options ...

 You could run modconf(same utility as runs during the Debian install),
 which will then write the changes permanently for you.

 Or just manually edit /etc/modules and add those two lines (trident and
 sound).

 More detailed info on how it all works can apparently be found in
 /usr/share/doc/modutils

 - Chris


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Re: cfdisk error

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:20 AM
Subject: Q: cfdisk error



 Trying to ready a 60g drive on a Promise Ultra card for first use.

 used MAKEDEV to create /dev/hde

 when I did 'cfdisk /dev/hde' I got no partition table or unknown
 signature on partition table

 um... does that sound at all right?



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Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question

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From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question


 Do you know if maildrop can use qmail's variables?  I'd like to avoid
 separate filter files for every .qmail-ext I have.

 Thanks!
 -Paul

 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:18:46 -0500
 Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0400
  Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin.  All my
   incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to have
   mail with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir.  I'm
   using qmail maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs.  How
   can I filter my mail using dot-qmail files?
 
  I do this with maildrop and a ~/.mailfilter file like so:
 
  xfilter spamassassin -P
 
  if ( /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ )
  {
 to $DEFAULT/.Spam/
  }
 
  and the following in your ~/.qmail file:
 
  | /usr/bin/maildrop
 
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Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question

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From: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: mail filtering / qmail - tangent to spam mail question


 Cool!  I got it to work!  Thanks!!!
 -Paul

 # cat .qmail
 |maildrop .mailfilter Maildir/

 # cat .qmail-ext
 |maildrop .mailfilter mail/$EXT

 # cat .mailfilter
 if ( /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ )
 {
 to $HOME/mail/SPAM/
 }
 else
 {
 to $HOME/$1
 }


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 Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Do you know if maildrop can use qmail's variables?  I'd like to avoid
  separate filter files for every .qmail-ext I have.
 
  Thanks!
  -Paul
 
  On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:18:46 -0500
  Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0400
   Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I'm using qmail/rblsmtpd, qmailscanner, and spamassassin.  All my
incoming mail are marked with X-Spam-Status: and I'd like to
have mail with spam status of Yes put into a separate maildir.
I'm using qmail maildirs, and I'd like to continue using maildirs.
 How
can I filter my mail using dot-qmail files?
  
   I do this with maildrop and a ~/.mailfilter file like so:
  
   xfilter spamassassin -P
  
   if ( /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ )
   {
  to $DEFAULT/.Spam/
   }
  
   and the following in your ~/.qmail file:
  
   | /usr/bin/maildrop
  
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Re: [offtopic] esdl

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Subject: [offtopic] esdl


 Greetings,

 I'm trying to compile esdl the erlange binding for the SDL library
 in order to get wings3d (a 3d modeler to work) to work.
 No Debian Packages :(

 The compile always barfs at this point:

 gcc -c -g -O2 -funroll-loops -Wall -ffast-math -fpic  -DSHM -DPTHREADS
  -I/usr/include/ -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT  esdl_opengl.c
 gcc -c -g -O2 -funroll-loops -Wall -ffast-math -fpic  -DSHM -DPTHREADS
  -I/usr/include/ -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT  esdl_glu.c
 esdl_glu.c:32: parse error before `GLUtesselator'
 esdl_glu.c:32: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
 esdl_glu.c:34: parse error before `}'
 esdl_glu.c:34: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of
  `eglu_tessobj'
 esdl_glu.c:34: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

 here's the relevant part of the program


 #ifdef _OSX_COCOA
 #include OpenGL/glu.h
 #else
 #include GL/glu.h
 #endif

 typedef struct _tessdata3 * eglu_tessdata_ptr;

 typedef struct _tessdata3 {
eglu_tessdata_ptr next;
GLdouble data[3];
 } eglu_tessdata;

 typedef struct _tessobj {
GLUtesselator *tess;
eglu_tessdata *data;
 } eglu_tessobj;

 I don't see anything wrong here!! and its been driving me nuts.

 Anybody have any suggestions??

 Thanks in advance,
 Roy Pluschke


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Re: [SOLVED!] Re: lost route (network unreachable)

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [SOLVED!] Re: lost route (network unreachable)


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 09:42:54AM -0500, DvB wrote:
  Michel Verdier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
  
I tried running route add -host hostname.mydomain.com (though I have
no
idea if that's supposed to work or not) and get the following:
   
SIOCADDRT: No such device
  
   Did you indicate interface name like this :
  
   route add -host hostname.mydomain.com eth0
 
 
  That was it. Thanks!
 
  Thanks also to Andy for trying.
 

 Next time I start with basics! And you thought too much knowledge isn't
 a dangerous thing :-}.

 You are welcome. Hope you learned something anyway.

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Re: Kills Linux hdd's?

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kills Linux hdd's?


 Frank Brodbeck wrote:
 
  All worked pretty
  fine and then suddenly I heard this strange sound from my harddrive.
  It twanged like the read/write header of the hdd would somehow hang.
  First of all, the system just froze for several seconds but after
  short time the system started to freeze completely after such events and
  also the frequency of these sounds increased rapidly.

 Between my sister and I, we've had 3 20G disks die this way - one
 quantum fireball and two seagates. She has a 20G WD drive now (fingers
 crossed) and I have a 60G Maxtor. Maxtor and Quantum are the same
 company now though, so I'm really hoping for my sake that they've sorted
 out their reliability problems.

 Previously I'd never had any drive die like this. I've got a 245Mb
 Maxtor that's 8 years old and still going strong. They just don't build
 them like they used to.

 BTW. I am a Linux user, but my sister is strictly Windows only. This is
 a hardware problem - it has nothing to do with Linux.

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Re: Man page output

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Man page output


 On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:01:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:54:22PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote:
   On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 06:53:50PM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote:
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
Is there an easy way to output man pages without all of the
underlined
text? I want to redirect man page output to text type files, but
all
of the files include squares or ^H^H^H all over the place...
   
you already got good answers to your question, but if you need
the text format to print it, the best thing is to use
man -t something, which will give you nicely formatted
postscript output.
  
   zcat /usr/share/man/man5/html2textrc.5.gz | groff -t -mandoc 
print.ps
 
  That's morally equivalent to 'man -t html2textrc  print.ps', but more
  cumbersome and less reliable (it will fail if the man page needs a
  preprocessor like tbl).
 

 Yes, it is. One of these days I will change that alias. It seems to work
 with signal (7). Maybe there's another example where my method fails.

 Thanks for the correction,
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Re: Apache with Tomcat4 package

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: Apache with Tomcat4 package


 try, downloading from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/download.html

 extract and do this..

 JAVA_HOME=/path/to/extracted/java

CLASSPATH=/path/to/extracted/java/lib/dt.jar:/path/to/extracted/java/lib/too
 ls.jar
 TOMCAT_HOME=/path/to/tomcat
 export JAVA_HOME
 export CLASSPATH
 export TOMCAT_HOME


 tweaked!

 ty,
 louie...


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 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:59 PM
 Subject: Apache with Tomcat4 package


  Hi,
  I'm running testing with packages apache (1.3.24) and tomcat4 (4.0.3).
 
  1) Is there a jdk deb package that works with tomcat4? According to
 Jakarta it should be jdk 1.2+.
 
  2) What mod-jk should be used between theese apache and tomcat4
 packages?
 
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Re: List as a newsgroup

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: List as a newsgroup


 On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:30:15 +0100, Dougie Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  I've just discovered I can get this list as a newsgroup. I tried this
about a
  year ago when I first started using Debian, but it didn't work, so since
then
  I've been getting it as a mailing list.
 
  Has it always been like this, or is this a recent thing. I'm not
beginning to
  wonder whether my ISP didn't provide the group, and I mistakenly assumed
it
  was only available as a mailing list.
 

 I'm reading this list and a couple of others via news.gmane.org. Works
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Re: this post is not off-topic

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 David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  David I was hoping someone who takes this position would either
  David explain why my ananlogy fails or explain why we really should
  David spend on all 11 diseases equally, even though this does not
  David help the most people that we can.

 If Debian's goal was to reach maximal market share, your
  analogy would not havbe been flawed. Were we trying for popularity,
  we would probably emulate the most popular OS there is; promise, and
  half heartedly implement ``hot'' features, cater to the largest
  category of users, worry about rate of return of effort.

 But that is not what Debian's goals are. We release when we
  are ready. We do not feel ready. We have decided to release for 11
  architectures, because that pleases our muse. If it is not clear to
  you by now (after having a stable release whose age is beginning to
  be measured in fractional decades) that Debian marches to a different
  drummer, please collect the refunds at the door.

  David I really would like to understand those people better, because
  David right now they seem as silly to me as the people who want rich
  David kids attend public schools to ensure that their money doesn't
  David buy then a better education than the poor kids get. (Equality
  David by holding everyone back.)

 I see. And insulting people providing you with a free OS is
  highly cogent behaviour?

 manoj
  who really feels like reposting the beggar on the beach fable again
 --
  It is fruitless: to become lachrymose over precipitately departed
  lactate fluid.  to attempt to indoctrinate a superannuated canine
  with innovative maneuvers.
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Re: geforce4 420 graphics card problem

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: geforce4 420 graphics card problem


 Hi all

 I am having difficulties trying to get a geforce4 420 card to run
 under debian.  I am fairly new to debian, could someone direct me
 in setting up this card under debian.  I am using 2.4.18 kernel
 and packages from testing

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Re: this post is not off-topic

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 Maoj,

 Nice of you to respond. Although your response seems rather overheated, I
 think it contains the core of a argument to which I can respond, so I'm
 going to try...

  We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that
  pleases our muse.

 Point 4. of http://www.debian.org/social_contract says Our Priorities are
 Our Users and Free Software. I think even you will agree that, prima
 facie, my argument for optimizing the greatest possible user good looks
 more consistent with these priorities than your statement above.

 Do you really believe that the Debian community should not worry about
 the rate of return of our effort? Your argument seems to be that we
 should not do so, because Microsoft does so (therefore it must be bad?).

 I think the Debian leadership made a mistake in its decision to support
 more architectures than Debian could without negatively impacting the
 mainstream base. Amid mounting criticism from the user base, the posture
 of many of those invested in that decision has been to adopt a cabal-like
 attitude (this is our project and we deign to let you use it) rather
 than to try to reach out to the community. Frankly, your statement above
 is exemplary in this regard. I'm afraid that route will lead use away from
 the free-for-all, inclusive Linux world toward the high quality, but
 rather austere and unfriendly BSD world.

   please collect the refunds at the door.

 I think you are wrong to dismiss me, and so many other Debian users like
 me, out of hand. I run a large number of Debian machines, including web,
 file, directory, and email servers, and a computation cluster. I report
 bugs regularly and work with maintainers to squash them. I participate in
 debian-user. I maintain a collection (http://www.metaconsultancy.com) of
 Debian-centric whitepapers. I would be happy to maintain packages, if one
 of the ones with which I am familiar were to become orphaned. If that
 doesn't make me a member of the Debian community with a legitimate
 interest in the direction Debian takes, then Debian already is a cabal.


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Re: Q: cfdisk error

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Q: cfdisk error


 Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Trying to ready a 60g drive on a Promise Ultra card for first use.
 
  used MAKEDEV to create /dev/hde
 
  when I did 'cfdisk /dev/hde' I got no partition table or unknown
  signature on partition table
 
  um... does that sound at all right?

 u no.

 You have more than one IDE card in the machine, yes? And you're trying
 to set up the system to use, at most, eight IDE drives?

 The kernel is going to have to recognize the card and set up the
 connections - usually done during bootstapping. During boot, does it
 recognize:

 1) The card (Promise Ultra)
 2) /dev/hde

 ? 'dmesg' should tell you.

 OTOH, if you mean the 60g drive is new and is what is referred to in
 first use, and you just plugged it into the IDE connectors on the
 mother board, you may want to use dmesg and see if it's on a
 different device, such as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd.

 I don't understand why you had to make /dev/hde unless you have more
 than one IDE operational controller in your system.

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Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address

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 I know that this is kind of off-topic, but I'm asking you folks anyway
 because I'm sure you've experienced the same as me.

 I keep getting mail, spam-mail about 40 each day, and I don't know how to
 get procmail to handle them. They all have a To:-filed containing some
 other address than mine, e.g
 To: ` [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Especially I get alot of those with a mail address inside , how do I get
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 David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that
   pleases our muse.

  David Point 4. of http://www.debian.org/social_contract says Our
  David Priorities are Our Users and Free Software. I think even you
  David will agree that, prima facie, my argument for optimizing the
  David greatest possible user good looks more consistent with these
  David priorities than your statement above.

 Our users. Not our users of the most popular
  architectures. _all_ our users.

  David Do you really believe that the Debian community should not
  David worry about the rate of return of our effort? Your argument

 What debian community? Who gets to decide how developer time
  is spent? Who do you think has any input in prioritizing the work
  that is to be done, and why do you think they have the right to do
  so?

  David seems to be that we should not do so, because Microsoft does
  David so (therefore it must be bad?).

 In free software, the tenet is those who do the work make the
  rules. If that makes us an elitist cabal, well, we always were. If
  that means that Debian no longer meets your ideal, well, sorry.

 What you are missing is even a modicum of understanding of the
  motivation for the people who put in the effort and do the work for
  Debian -- I certainly do not do this (working 20 hours a week, over
  and above the 50-60 I do for work, and trying to keep the house and
  lawn in shape, etc (I also happen to run an active DD campaign, but
  well)) for the unwashed masses. Do you know what motivates the
  developers? Developers most certainly do _not_ live to serve.

  David I think the Debian leadership made a mistake in its decision

 Debian leadership? The project leader has no say in deciding
  what architectures one releases. Indeed, a large number of sub
  projects must come together (boot floppies, build daemons, porting
  team, number of packages up to date, etc), and some one has then to
  finally convince the RM that the port is ready for release. There is
  no central leadership that makes these decisions. There is no command
  from up on high And behold, we shall release for 15 architectures
  next release. Pass along the bull whips and lick the developers into
  shape. Indeed, the decision to add an architecture is a grass roots
  effort, and bubbles up from below - by the people who actually do the
  work.

  David to support more architectures than Debian could without
  David negatively impacting the mainstream base. Amid mounting
  David criticism from the user base, the posture of many of those
  David invested in that decision has been to adopt a cabal-like
  David attitude (this is our project and we deign to let you use
  David it) rather than to try to reach out to the
  David community. Frankly, your statement above is exemplary in this
  David regard. I'm afraid that route will lead use away from the
  David free-for-all, inclusive Linux world toward the high quality,
  David but rather austere and unfriendly BSD world.

 As far as I have been aware, the majority of people working
  for free software work because it pleases their muse (or scratches
  their own particular itch). The user base helps by helping make the
  software better; in return for getting to use it. Anyone can
  participate -- by helping with bug reports and fizxes, patches, etc;
  and even getting a say in how debian works by committing themselves
  to Debian; no one tells any other volunteer how to spend their
  time. All that is needed is essentially Show us the code (or help
  us improve it). People are not excluded because we are the holiest of
  the holy and outsiders are dirt. There is no core Debian team. And
  users certainly are not in control; and popularity has never been a
  Debian goal.

 The ``community participation'' does have limitations. Telling
  me how to spend my time comes with the obligation of helping me pay
  my mortgage. My posted rates are $250 an hour. Anyone telling me how
  to spend my time has to pony up the moolah.

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Re: can't change my password

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: can't change my password


 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 12:10:45AM +0200, Marco Herrn wrote:
  when trying to change my password with passwd I get the following error:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ passwd
  Changing password for marco
  (current) UNIX password:
  passwd: Critical error - immediate abort
 
  After entering my current pw it waits for 2 seconds then the error
  message appears.
  The same happens when trying that as root. Not even root itself can
  change its password.

 I now found, where the problem is, but I don't understand it.
 I recently changed my /etc/pam.d/passwd from

   password required  pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5

 to

   password required  pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=6 difok=3
   password required  pam_unix.so use_authtok nullok md5

 When changing back to the first I _can_ change my passwords.

 Where is the problem? I _do_ have libpam-cracklib installed.
 Did I forget to configure something?


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Re: Xfree 4.2.0 and KDM

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 On Thursday 30 May 2002 20:30, Stephen J. Thompson (CaSS) wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I have just installed XFree 4.2.0 on two machines and found KDM has
  stopped working. Has anyone else encountered this problem. Does
  anyone have any pointers on how to solve it?

 I can only tell you that it works for me. I'm running XFree 4.2.0 and
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Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail

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 One more thing... the to line in the /etc/fetchmailrc represents what
the
 local user's account is...

 Michael van der Kolff
 A Perfect PC
 Gymea, Sydney, Australia

 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:38 AM
 Subject: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail


  I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and
  procmail individually.  However, I'm trying to figure out how to make
  them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it.  I've tried
  some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that
  didn't really apply to my situation.  If anyone could point me toward
  some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it.
  I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail
  to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity
  setup.
 
  Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do.
 
  We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the
  house, running a mix of Debian and Windows.  I'm building a fifth to act
  as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as
  well.
 
  Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an
  SMTP server for sending.  Pretty standard stuff.  Their setup guide just
  tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape.
  This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail
  program and/or operating system on our network.
 
  I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP
  server.  I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our
  ISP.  I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to
  different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to
  their own directory).  It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much
  all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually.  I
  can just let it grab stuff every so often.
 
  Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together.
  Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the
  latter is set up?  How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP
  folders?  Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format?
 
  Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative
  that would be better suited for what I want to do.  I've noticed that if
  I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so
  I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine.  It would be
  nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central
  IMAP inbox.
 
  Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just
  tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way
  it is now)?  With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd
  need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they
  don't use my mail client anyway.
 
  Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts.  One thing I'd like to do is
  set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be
  forwarded to both of us.  My thinking is to create a dummy user account
  that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's
  procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts.
  I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access
  (then we get questions like did you read that?  Can I delete it?)
 
  The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up,
  I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages.  Some things
  should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us.
 
  Well, that's about all I can think of so far.  I'm still in the planning
  stages, but I'm hoping that good planning will lead to easier
  implementation.
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Jason
 
 
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Re: Software installation question

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  Our users. Not our users of the most popular
   architectures. _all_ our users.

 Please! Your last justification we do it because it floats our boat, not
 for the users was at least honest. One of your $250 hours would do more
 for _all_ our users if spent on a i386 than on 68k. This simple,
 irrefutable fact does not make 68k users second class citizens. If you
 want to argue this, you need to go back to the original metaphor and
 explain why obscure diseases deserve as much funding as those affecting
 large fractions of the population.

   Do you know what motivates the developers?

 I would certainly think so, since I am one professionally. And I (and I
 strongly suspect most other developers) get a much bigger kick out of
 doing something new that out of doing something old on an obscure
 platform.

   Debian leadership? The project leader has no say in deciding
   what architectures one releases.

 No say? That is flat-out wrong. The PL and RM may not decide alone,
 but they most certainly have a say, and a large one, in what architectures
 are supported. Most packagers will say okay to any proposed architecture
 (or at least would have in the past, before the woody debacle) because
 most packagers support relatively architecture-independent code. What
 seems to have been missed is that the few heavily architecture-dependent
 packages (e.g. XFree86) and the support infrastructure for the new
 architectures would hold up the whole show. It is precisely the role of
 the PL, RM, and other meta-packagers to recognize such structural
 problems and draw appropriate conclusions.

 Certainly the appropriate conclusion wouldn't be to ban any 68k package
 someone wants to produce. But it would be to say we will not freeze the
 whole damn distribution while we wait for them and the infrastructure they
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Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail


 I'd say that you should _probably_ use exim instead... My setup here
happens
 to be cyrus21-* packages + sasl2-bin + exim-tls + fetchmail-ssl +
 fetchmail-common.  It isn't that hard... what I did was installed said
 packages, chown --recursive /var/run/saslauthd (might not be necessary
 anymore - was a bug in sasl2-bin) edited /etc/fetchmailrc appropriately,
 /etc/default/fetchmail and /etc/imapd.conf.  Oh, and I added a shadow
 transport option to the exim.conf file (just one of my niceties, not
 strictly needed, we only put servers into businesses, you see...)
(attaching
 all relevant files)...

 You probably want to change all instances of /home/cyrus to
/var/spool/cyrus
 or whatever the default is (I forget, but you'll see it when you install
 it).

 And you will probably also want to run eximconfig and just use the shadow
 transport section, if you see such a need arising.

 Then you'll have to run cyradm --auth login localhost (read the cyradm
 manpage) to add the appropriate mailboxes.

 Cyrus is probably the best IMAP server out there, and I'd recommend you
get
 used to it.  It is quite a step forward from the UW-IMAP server...

 Additionally, you can place a .procmailrc file in your home directory,
which
 I believe exim honours.

 Also, you will want to change the entries in the /etc/fetchmailrc file to
 reflect your setup.  We've gone for a multi-drop only because we have
 peculiar circumstances (ISP charging us too much per mailbox).  You just
 have to add more than one server entry to get all the accounts...

 Hope it helps,

 Michael van der Kolff
 A Perfect PC
 Gymea, Sydney, Australia

 BTW, I'm only using Outlook express 'cause my linux box (excl. server)
ain't
 turned on and I couldn't be bothered doing so (you _could_ find out such
 information from the headers, so I'm just telling you in advance).

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:38 AM
 Subject: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail


  I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and
  procmail individually.  However, I'm trying to figure out how to make
  them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it.  I've tried
  some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that
  didn't really apply to my situation.  If anyone could point me toward
  some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it.
  I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail
  to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity
  setup.
 
  Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do.
 
  We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the
  house, running a mix of Debian and Windows.  I'm building a fifth to act
  as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as
  well.
 
  Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an
  SMTP server for sending.  Pretty standard stuff.  Their setup guide just
  tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape.
  This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail
  program and/or operating system on our network.
 
  I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP
  server.  I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our
  ISP.  I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to
  different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to
  their own directory).  It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much
  all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually.  I
  can just let it grab stuff every so often.
 
  Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together.
  Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the
  latter is set up?  How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP
  folders?  Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format?
 
  Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative
  that would be better suited for what I want to do.  I've noticed that if
  I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so
  I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine.  It would be
  nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central
  IMAP inbox.
 
  Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just
  tell my mail client to connect directly 

Re: Locale Q:

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Subject: Re: Locale Q:


 Jeff Johnson wrote:
  So...
  locale gives:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale
  LANG=C
  LC_CTYPE=
  LC_NUMERIC=C
  LC_TIME=C
  LC_COLLATE=C
  LC_MONETARY=C
  LC_MESSAGES=C
  LC_PAPER=C
  LC_NAME=C
  LC_ADDRESS=C
  LC_TELEPHONE=C
  LC_MEASUREMENT=C
  LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
  LC_ALL=

 what happens if you set LC_CTYPE to C too?

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Re: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1

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 On Saturday 01 June 2002 23:05, Ted Goodridge, Jr wrote:
  On many, many GDK/GTK applications, I'm getting this error and a
  nasty unhappy exit.
 
  Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
serial 12125 error_code 9 request_code 133 minor_code 1
 
  Is this an X4.1 bug or a GTK bug?  Has anyone else experienced this?
  I'm using woody with stock compiled packages.

 AFAIK, that error means the application tried to draw somewhere it
 shouldn't. Perhaps list some applications that do this and tell us when
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 On Friday 31 May 2002 19:28, Dave Price wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am looking for a quick way to clear an HDD of old data, partitions,
  etc.
 
  I found this on /. thru a google search:
 
  dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdX

 I wouldn't use /dev/random for that. It blocks when it runs out of
 entropy which is very soon in that case. It could take some days to get
 enough data from there. If you insist on pseudo-random data, try
 /dev/urandom. It might not guarantee as much randomness but at least it
 doesn't block.
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Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)

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 Oleg escreveu:
 
  What do you get from UML, that you don't get from class definitions (in
  header files) ?

 UML has a much bigger scope, since it tries to account for all the design
 phase, including data modelling.

 Unfortunately it's a fundamentally flawed approach, as shown in
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 I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet?

 ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move
 forward together.

 ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures
 can follow when they're ready.

 I guess you're confident that the second option would only get 2 votes.


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Re: color boot text

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 On Sunday 02 June 2002 04:44, Tom Barnes-Lawrence wrote:

   Could it be possible to create a program, lets call it colourify
   for example (I don't know of one), such that when the init scripts
   run a program, they direct the program's standard error (or standard
   output if appropriate) stream into colourify, and colourify then
   uses the exit status of the program to determine whether it
  succeeded or failed. Having determined that, colourify then dumps the
  text that was fed to it in the appropriate colour- IIRC, the Linux
  console type uses the same escape codes as xterms and other things,
  which are in the Xterm postscript documentation.
   OK, I'm not sure that you could have a program receive another
   processes output *and* detect its exit status in one go, but
  y'know... I'm sure something like this is possible without too much
  effort (though you'd prolly not want to for fsck's progress bar
  things).

 _Theoretically_ (I'm not all sure about it), the init scripts return 0
 on success and something else on failure. So you could in theory wrap
 the calls init makes into another script that simply executes the
 script, removes the final newline from its output and then appends the
 colored stuff.

 Since debian init scripts have a fairly standard output, you could do
 even further parsing of the string and perhaps do neat stuff like
 pritnitng the program name in bold.

 Just my 2cent.


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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 12:16 am, David Wright wrote:
  Maoj,
 
  Nice of you to respond. Although your response seems rather overheated,
I
  think it contains the core of a argument to which I can respond, so I'm
  going to try...
 
   We have decided to release for 11 architectures, because that
   pleases our muse.
 
  Point 4. of http://www.debian.org/social_contract says Our Priorities
are
  Our Users and Free Software. I think even you will agree that, prima
  facie, my argument for optimizing the greatest possible user good looks
  more consistent with these priorities than your statement above.
 
  Do you really believe that the Debian community should not worry about
  the rate of return of our effort? Your argument seems to be that we
  should not do so, because Microsoft does so (therefore it must be bad?).
 
  I think the Debian leadership made a mistake in its decision to support
  more architectures than Debian could without negatively impacting the
  mainstream base. Amid mounting criticism from the user base, the posture
  of many of those invested in that decision has been to adopt a
cabal-like
  attitude (this is our project and we deign to let you use it) rather
  than to try to reach out to the community. Frankly, your statement above
  is exemplary in this regard. I'm afraid that route will lead use away
from
  the free-for-all, inclusive Linux world toward the high quality, but
  rather austere and unfriendly BSD world.
 
please collect the refunds at the door.
 
  I think you are wrong to dismiss me, and so many other Debian users like
  me, out of hand. I run a large number of Debian machines, including web,
  file, directory, and email servers, and a computation cluster. I report
  bugs regularly and work with maintainers to squash them. I participate
in
  debian-user. I maintain a collection (http://www.metaconsultancy.com) of
  Debian-centric whitepapers. I would be happy to maintain packages, if
one
  of the ones with which I am familiar were to become orphaned. If that
  doesn't make me a member of the Debian community with a legitimate
  interest in the direction Debian takes, then Debian already is a cabal.



 so your argument is that because debian isn't going in the direction that
you
 want, all other considerations should be abandoned? mounting criticism?
you
 adding your two cents to one other guy? as far as working with the
 maintainers to squash bugs, you seem to have 8 active bug reports but i
don't
 see where you worked with the maintainers to squash bugs beyond the
initial
 report. your collection of debian-centric whitepapers is a collection only
in
 the most minimalistic definition of the word in that it consists of two
basic
 installation advisories that hardly show evidence of anything near the
effort
 that the word maintain, in the context of debian, normally implies. since,
 apparently, none of the packages with which you are familiar requires your
 input, it does appear that your current capacity to contribute is limited
to
 providing this flamebait. do you really think that this, particularly
given
 the rude and condescending tone you adopt, is a valid productive
contribution?

 ben


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Re: mplayer

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 i added those to my sources.list file and updated everythign went fine
when i try and install it i get broken dependencies error it says package
libdirectfb8 is not installible. Any ideas?

 On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:34:56 +0200
 Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I do not have nothing in LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. The MPlayer is
  very, very good! The only video program, that is free,
   and i can see my videos (.mpg, .asf, .avi)... just fine! I want just a
   nice gui... if you know about another one Thanks!
 
  I am very happy with the unofficial mplayer debs from marillat. just add
  the following lines to your sources.list
 
  deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main
  deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ testing/
 
  and apt-get install mplayer-686 (for pentium 2 or higher)
  he also has debs for flash-plugin (apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla)
  just my 2 cents,
 
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Re: Clear HDD of old OS, etc?

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 On Friday 31 May 2002 19:28, Dave Price wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I am looking for a quick way to clear an HDD of old data, partitions,
   etc.
  
   I found this on /. thru a google search:
  
   dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdX
 
  I wouldn't use /dev/random for that. It blocks when it runs out of
  entropy which is very soon in that case. It could take some days to get
  enough data from there. If you insist on pseudo-random data, try
  /dev/urandom. It might not guarantee as much randomness but at least it
  doesn't block.
  BTW: yes|dd of=/dev/hdX
 
 Hmm, why not  ' if=/dev/zero' ?
 That device is made especially for such occasions.

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Subject: iplimit


 Hi,

 I tried to apply:
 okidz:~# iptables -m iplimit -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j DROP
 --iplimit-above 3

 Unfortunately, I had this:
 iptables: No chain/target/match by that name

 Kernel version 2.5.18, iptables 1.2.3.
 What's wrong?

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 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:57:50AM -0700, AE Roy wrote:
  I know that this is kind of off-topic, but I'm asking you folks anyway
  because I'm sure you've experienced the same as me.
 
  I keep getting mail, spam-mail about 40 each day, and I don't know how
to
  get procmail to handle them. They all have a To:-filed containing some
  other address than mine, e.g
  To: ` [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Especially I get alot of those with a mail address inside , how do I
get
  procmail to handle this.

 A mail address inside angle brackets is a standard e-mail address
 format.  The procmail filter at http://spastic.sourceforge.net handles
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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:02 am, Johann Spies wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
   Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
   the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
   I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.
 
  While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
  the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
  don't care for.  That is sad.
 

 if you take the time to read that properly, it's clear that manoj is
 referring to sheer numbers of users, which is quite a different thing.

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 David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Our users. Not our users of the most popular
   architectures. _all_ our users.

  David Please! Your last justification we do it because it floats
  David our boat, not for the users was at least honest.

 I see that you can't maintain a civil dialogue. I certainly do
  not understand how you come to the conclusion that this statement of
  mine is dishonest; but I most certainly am close to disregarding you
  as a rude, inconsiderate, troll.

  David One of your $250 hours would do more for _all_ our users if
  David spent on a i386 than on 68k.

 And this statement either displays a profound lack f
  understanding of English (quite possible, it is not your first
  language), or a worse grasp of simple logic. All our users do not use
  i386, hence the statement above does not make sense. Secondly, I
  doubt if the statement is really valid either, see below for my
  reasons.

 Indeed, were you a prime example of a user of i386 box, I
  would now be tempted to lower the importance of i386 in Debian
  (despite the fdact that I do not have a non i386 machine).

  David This simple, irrefutable fact

 It is not a fact, nor is this irrefutable. Uncovering and
  fixing porting related bugs leads to fixing problems that are
  generally flaws that have been hidden on other architectures, it
  leads to better design, often more modular, streamlined, and simpler,
  due to the resulting abstractions; portable software often is easier
  to maintain.

  David does not make 68k users second class citizens. If you want
  David to argue this, you need to go back to the original metaphor
  David and explain why obscure diseases deserve as much funding as
  David those affecting large fractions of the population.

 Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
  the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
  I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.

   Do you know what motivates the developers?

  David I would certainly think so, since I am one professionally. And

 Professionally, remuneration often is the driver; it is not a
  factor in volunteer work on free software. A quick google search for
  you email address failed to turn up any hits apart from postings of a
  few user lists; so I have no idea if you work on any free software,
  and thus have a first hand understanding on what may drive people to
  work on it.

  David I (and I strongly suspect most other developers) get a much
  David bigger kick out of doing something new that out of doing
  David something old on an obscure platform.


 Glad to know you feel that way, in case you ever show up in
  the NM queue. BTW, anyone who does not care about a solid, well
  tested, portable software is not very professional, really. Software
  engineering is more than just the latest 31337 cool hack; profession
  systems integration work requires solid, workanlike, professional QA
  work as well. I would hope that most Debian developers are not
  juvenile 31337 kiddies with a minuscule attention span.

   Debian leadership? The project leader has no say in deciding
   what architectures one releases.

  David No say? That is flat-out wrong. The PL and RM may not decide
  David alone, but they most certainly have a say, and a large one, in

 And on what, pray, are you basing this? When did the DPL ever
  have _any_ sayu whatsoever in the arches one releases for? The RM
  needs to bve convinced, yes, but he merely has veto pwoers, he
  certainlky does not add new arches all by his lone self, over the
  objections of people doing the real work.

  David Certainly the appropriate conclusion wouldn't be to ban any
  David 68k package someone wants to produce. But it would be to say
  David we will not freeze the whole damn distribution while we wait
  David for them and the infrastructure they require.

 I am so glad you are not the RM.

 manoj

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  Bird, The Two Paycheck Marriage
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 On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:01:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:54:22PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote:
   On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 06:53:50PM +0200, Pietro Cagnoni wrote:
you already got good answers to your question, but if you need
the text format to print it, the best thing is to use
man -t something, which will give you nicely formatted
postscript output.
  
   zcat /usr/share/man/man5/html2textrc.5.gz | groff -t -mandoc 
print.ps
 
  That's morally equivalent to 'man -t html2textrc  print.ps', but more
  cumbersome and less reliable (it will fail if the man page needs a
  preprocessor like tbl).

 I meant eqn and so on, of course - the -t flag to groff handles tbl ...

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 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

  Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in
  the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me,
  I would not have been wasting my time on Linux.

 While I enjoyed the way this topic entered the list, I am not enjoying
 the personal attacks in this discussion.  I am one of the users you
 don't care for.  That is sad.

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Re: List as a newsgroup

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 In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
  On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:30:15 +0100, Dougie Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  I've just discovered I can get this list as a newsgroup. I tried this
about a
  year ago when I first started using Debian, but it didn't work, so
since then
  I've been getting it as a mailing list.
 
  Has it always been like this, or is this a recent thing. I'm not
beginning to
  wonder whether my ISP didn't provide the group, and I mistakenly
assumed it
  was only available as a mailing list.
 
 
  I'm reading this list and a couple of others via news.gmane.org. Works
  well, but I've never tried to post, so let's see if this gets there.
 
  --
  Juha Siltala

 I read it as a newsgroup too, and if I find a post that has the
UNSUBSCRIBE
 message at the bottom, I know it has come through the email list.  I then
 try to remember to send it to debian-user@lists.debian.org so that it will
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it
 will see it there.  I'm not sure if all the messages go from the list to
the
 newsgroup or if any of the newsgroup messages go to the list.  That's why
I
 send my reply to the list if that is where they originated.  That is what
I
 am doing with this one.

 I am not a member of the list, but this still seems to work.

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Re: installing from debian cd

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 I have a few newbie questions:

 how do I install packages from my debian cd?
 Does kernel source comes with the default installation? Why can't I see
 the source in /usr/src?

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Re: OT:spam mail with To:-feld without my address

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Re: help with fb, please

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:36 PM
Subject: help with fb, please


 Hello,
 recently I've switched to framebuffers in order to get good results
 with my new Sony lcd monitor -- and almost everything is fine! I'm
 using the vesa framebuffer with an ati all-in-wonder card.
 And here is the first problem: when booting a kernel with aty128fb,
 I get a blank screen -- but no messages of inactivity from the
 monitor. I can even wait until the boot process finishes and blindly
 login to safely reboot. So I switched to vesa.

 And here lies the more important problem: since it doesn't support
 mode switching (on the fly), how can I use dvifb? It forces me to
 boot in 256-colors mode, which is not good for use with fbi.
 I can, with limitations, use dvisvga and zgv, but with the rage
 driver selected. If I select fbdev, nothing happens.

 How do I solve this? I want to be able to use the console for
 previewing .dvi's as well as as for viewing other images.
 Ideas?

 Thank you,

 andrej


 The outputs follow:

 dvisvga:
 --
 This is some kind of a DVIewer, V01.03
 (C)opyright 1995 Thomas Moor

 svgalib 1.4.3
 warning: cant read startupfile /etc/dvisvga

 reading startupfile /root/.dvisvga
 initializing kpathsea, new style: ok

 warning: display: mode not supported on this machine. Now try
 -d640x480.
   Check your svgalib configuration.

   warning: display: mode -d640x480 not supported at 256 colors. Now
   try at
 16 colors. This will reduce display quality and speed. Check
 your
   svgalib configuration.


   warning: display: mode -d640x480 not even supported at 16
   colors.

   fatal error: display: Sorry.
 -

 And here zgv:
 --
 Vesafb does not support changing the video mode
 svgalib: Signal 11: Segmentation fault received.
 Segmentation fault
 ---

 This is dvifb:
 ---
 This is some kind of a DVIewer, V01.03
 (C)opyright 1995 Thomas Moor

 writefb: open: f(/dev/fb0)(VESA VGA)
 fatal error: writefb: pseudocolor, packed-pixels, 8bpp required
  ... try fbset utility?

  writefb: restore console: f
 ---

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Re: this post is not off-topic

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:40 PM
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 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 02:43:13AM -0700, David Wright wrote:
  I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet?

 Because those have always had the power to command what developers do,
 right?

  ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move
  forward together.
 
  ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures
  can follow when they're ready.
 
  I guess you're confident that the second option would only get 2 votes.

 Ah, yes. So the security team will have to support both potato and
 woody, because both will be stable on different architectures. Package
 maintainers will have to support wildly different versions of their
 packages in stable. All this until the other architectures get a new
 stable release - which, if we only cared about raw numbers of users
 rather than developers willing to do the work, would most likely be
 never.

 Great. Maybe it's time to fork Debian after all (which, incidentally,
 you're quite free to do).

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Re: iplimit

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:44 PM
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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 11:16, Oki DZ wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I tried to apply:
  okidz:~# iptables -m iplimit -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j DROP
  --iplimit-above 3
 
  Unfortunately, I had this:
  iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
 
  Kernel version 2.5.18, iptables 1.2.3.
  What's wrong?

 Two things come to mind:
  - the iptables filtering HOWTO only lists a limit match
  - you should specify the chain before anything else and the matching
 rules last as a block.

 Try:
 iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j DROP -m iplimit --iplimit-above 3

 As I see it, iptables parses the command parameters in a nontrivial
 order. see the manpage for further info.

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Re: insmod in /etc/module file?

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 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 08:33:39AM -0400, Jule Slootbeek wrote:
   Hey i'm trying to add : insmod ide-scsi during start-up do i put
   ^^
   this in the /etc/modules file?

  OK thanks, i just wasnt sure if running insmod ide-scsi was the same
  as running modprobe ide-scsi, cuz i knew that modprobe ide-scsi qould
  go in /etc/modules/

 simply put the modules name into /etc/modules. you can (should) left out
 modprobe/insmod statements.

 so just

 ide-scsi

 into /etc/modules. the module will be loaded automatically on startup,
 if there isn't any mapping for a device nor autodetection of the module.

 modutils should automagically search for the correct path/version of the
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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:49 am, David Wright wrote:
  Well, I honestly didn't intend to just get you and ben pissed. I
honestly
  believe that I am making a valid point that reflects the opinion of a
  significant fraction of the Debian community. And you just might someday
  see my name on the NM list. So I'll try this one more time with as much
  dry, boring logic as I can muster. :-)
 
I certainly do not understand how you come to the conclusion that
this  statement of mine is dishonest;
 
  I didn't mean that perjoratively, but I did mean it logically. There are
  two justifications for supporting many architectures on the table:
  (1) We wanna.
  (2) It's for the good of the users.
 

 your logic is flawed. you assume that a majority of users is equivalent to
 the totality of users. it's that simple.

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Re: testing an email alias dont respond

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 Hi all just testing to see if this alias works o.k. to the list.


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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:01 am, David Wright wrote:
   your logic is flawed. you assume that a majority of users is
equivalent
   to the totality of users. it's that simple.
 
  That's less flawed than assuming that a minority of users is equivalent
to
  the totality of users.

 yes, that would be another mistake on your part.

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Re: Q: cfdisk error

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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:21 am, Alice M. Pinard wrote:
 [snip]
 
  now, the 'hde' stuff is new this login, which is nice... means I did at
  least that right. Last night I had no /dev/hde so I had to use MAKEDEV
to
  make it
 
  'cdisk /dev/hde' still however says the stuff about no partition
  table... if the drive is brand-spanking new does that make this message
  less unanticipated or is there still something probably not right with
the
  situation?

 try using fdisk, rather than cfdisk, in case you've got something buggy in
 the latter.

 man cfdisk reports a bug: it doesn't support multiple disks; it may
possibly
 have a size limitation also.

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Re: ide bus speed

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:44 PM
Subject: ide bus speed


 When booting both mylaptop and a desktop I notice that during the boot
 sequence it says:

 assuming 33MHz system bus speed...

 Does this mean it's assuming a PCI bus speed of 33MHz?
 Does that mean the system motherboard speed. i.e. some p.c's may advertise
a
 bus speed of 100MHz or more these days, I think.?

 Can you change this to speed things up?
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:34 PM
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 On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 07:21, Alice M. Pinard wrote:
 snip
  Let me clarify
 
  I have one hard drive, 2g. It's almost full. The well-meaning bf bought
me
  a 60g hd. My motherboard doesn't grok 60g. I bought a Promise Ultra
  ATA/100 pci adapter card to be its ide controller. Eventually I will be
  removing the 2g drive once I transfer its information to the 60g hard
  drive and do the voodoo necessary to make the 60g boot but that's
  further down the line...
 
  for now... I've installed the card, unwrapped the hard drive and
attached
  it to the card
 
  when I boot up my kernel says (among other things)
 
  Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
  ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
  PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09
  PIIX4: chipset revision 1
  PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
  ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
  ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
  PDC20267: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 58
  PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0b.0
  PDC20267: chipset revision 2
  PDC20267: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
  PDC20267: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode.
  ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
  ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:DMA
  hda: WDC AC34300L, ATA DISK drive
  hdb: FX001DE, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
  hde: MAXTOR 6L060J3, ATA DISK drive
  ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
  ide2 at 0xd000-0xd007,0xb802 on irq 10
  hda: 8406720 sectors (4304 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=8896/15/63, UDMA(33)
  hde: 117266688 sectors (60041 MB) w/1819KiB Cache, CHS=116336/16/63,
UDMA(100)
  hdb: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
  Partition check:
   hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
   hde: unknown partition table
 
 
  now, the 'hde' stuff is new this login, which is nice... means I did at
  least that right. Last night I had no /dev/hde so I had to use MAKEDEV
to
  make it
 
  'cdisk /dev/hde' still however says the stuff about no partition
  table... if the drive is brand-spanking new does that make this message
  less unanticipated or is there still something probably not right with
the
  situation?

 Who made your drive?  Most I know Maxtor has its own drive utilities
 which you could use to check the drive and even give it its first
 partitioning.  Also, you said the system cant handle the drive without
 the promise ide card?  Are you sure your problem isnt the bios not being
 able to handle it?  I would check for a bios update, that might help out
 a bit.  All this said, It seems to be detected properly, but the
 partition table may be corrupt.  Also it seems that hde is set to pio
 while hdh is set to dma.  Is this normal?  I thought most hard drives
 used dma.  This may have something to do with your problem.  Maybe you
 could check where the bios on the promise card are detecting your drive
 and what it says about it.

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Re: this post is not off-topic

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 Thanks for chiming in, Collin.

  Ah, yes. So the security team will have to support both potato and
  woody, because both will be stable on different architectures. Package
  maintainers will have to support wildly different versions of their
  packages in stable. All this until the other architectures get a new
  stable release - which, if we only cared about raw numbers of users
  rather than developers willing to do the work, would most likely be
  never.

 This is an important point.

 Woody, however, is supposed to support 11 arches to potato's 6. One could
 drop the 5 new arches without encountering this problem. Would dropping
 these 5 not help?



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 Well, I honestly didn't intend to just get you and ben pissed. I honestly
 believe that I am making a valid point that reflects the opinion of a
 significant fraction of the Debian community. And you just might someday
 see my name on the NM list. So I'll try this one more time with as much
 dry, boring logic as I can muster. :-)

   I certainly do not understand how you come to the conclusion that
   this  statement of mine is dishonest;

 I didn't mean that perjoratively, but I did mean it logically. There are
 two justifications for supporting many architectures on the table:
 (1) We wanna.
 (2) It's for the good of the users.

 (1) may well be true, but it's not exactly part of Debian's marketing
 rhetoric as embodied in the social contract.

 (2) is just not true. It would be, if Debian had sufficient resources to
 support obscure arches without hurting mainstream arch support. But
 experiment has proved that isn't the case.

 My original analogy was meant to illustrate, in a simple mathematical
 model, why (2) doesn't work. In this admitedly oversimplified model, your
 (rather expensive) hour spent on a mainstream arch is worth
   0.98 * (_all_ debian users)
 while your hour spent on an obscure arch is worth
   0.02 * (_all_ debian users)
 The irrefutable fact is that 0.98  0.02. Now, if your justification is
 really only (1), then of course this arguement is irrelevent. But remember
 we're talking about justification (2) here. And while I'm happy to grant
 your point that this model fails to capture the fact that portable
 software is usually better-designed software, and that finding bugs in one
 arch can improve the software for all arches, those would have to be
 pretty big effects to overcome just how much larger 0.98 is than 0.02
 (yes, I made up the numbers -- but any reasonable guess at the numbers
 will exhibit the same large ratio).



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 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 06:03:27PM +0800, lito wrote:
  I have a few newbie questions:
 
  how do I install packages from my debian cd?

 Run 'apt-cdrom add', if you haven't already, to add the CDs to the
 package database. Then you have a number of options for package
 management:

   * dselect. Traditional full-screen interface with some quirks, loved
 or hated depending on whom you ask.

   * 'apt-get install packagename'. Good for simple tasks, although it
 doesn't tell you about all the package relationships you might want
 to know about.

   * aptitude (much better in woody than in potato, I'm told). Apparently
 as good as dselect with better user interface design, but I haven't
 tried it yet.

  Does kernel source comes with the default installation? Why can't I see
  the source in /usr/src?

 'apt-cache search kernel-source' will show you a number of packages you
 can install. It's not there by default.

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 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:00:18AM -0700, David Wright wrote:
  Thanks for chiming in, Collin.
 
   Ah, yes. So the security team will have to support both potato and
   woody, because both will be stable on different architectures. Package
   maintainers will have to support wildly different versions of their
   packages in stable. All this until the other architectures get a new
   stable release - which, if we only cared about raw numbers of users
   rather than developers willing to do the work, would most likely be
   never.
 
  This is an important point.
 
  Woody, however, is supposed to support 11 arches to potato's 6. One
could
  drop the 5 new arches without encountering this problem. Would dropping
  these 5 not help?

 The new architectures are well-maintained, so no, not particularly. My
 impression is that the security team are not all that willing to support
 the six architectures from potato through to woody without the
 infrastructure improvements currently in progress, let alone the five
 new ones. We need the infrastructure improvements anyway, and once the
 central components are finished I imagine that the cost per architecture
 will not be particularly great.

 I should also point out that this is completely the wrong time for this
 discussion; it's way too late to even think about persuading the release
 manager to change the architectures that will release with woody.

 (Please don't Cc: me, by the way; I read the list. Thanks.)

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 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:50:54AM -0700, ben wrote:
  btw, do you want to shed any light on why your last post directed to
  me was routed via hungary?

 I believe that that's due to somebody on the list with an extremely
 stupid mail configuration that takes it upon itself to deliver to all
 the addresses in the To: and Cc: lines, rather than what it's been told
 to do in the mail envelope. This causes duplicates if the mail is To:
 you and Cc: the list, as the mail in question was. I've encountered this
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 There's unlikely to be anything David can do about it.

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Re: testing an email alias dont respond

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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:57 am, arthur_dent wrote:
  Hi all just testing to see if this alias works o.k. to the list.

 in case you don't see it on the list, it did make it.

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 On Tuesday 04 June 2002 02:43 am, David Wright wrote:
  I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet?
 
  ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move
  forward together.
 
  ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures
  can follow when they're ready.
 
  I guess you're confident that the second option would only get 2 votes.

 ad hominem? since you obviously need to re-read this, here you go:


 so your argument is that because debian isn't going in the direction that
you
 want, all other considerations should be abandoned? mounting criticism?
you
 adding your two cents to one other guy? as far as working with the
 maintainers to squash bugs, you seem to have 8 active bug reports but i
don't
 see where you worked with the maintainers to squash bugs beyond the
initial
 report. your collection of debian-centric whitepapers is a collection only
in
 the most minimalistic definition of the word in that it consists of two
basic
 installation advisories that hardly show evidence of anything near the
effort
 that the word maintain, in the context of debian, normally implies. since,
 apparently, none of the packages with which you are familiar requires your
 input, it does appear that your current capacity to contribute is limited
to
 providing this flamebait. do you really think that this, particularly
given
 the rude and condescending tone you adopt, is a valid productive
contribution?


 where's the ad hominem attack on you in the above? as it stands, since you
 haven't presented any valid justification for your ad hominem attack on
the
 maintainers, you might want to move away from that window.

 btw, do you want to shed any light on why your last post directed to me
was
 routed via hungary? or why the ip address for www.metaconsultancy.com
belongs
 to a block assigned to the university of washington? or why there are no
 client testimonial references at that site? after all, you did allege some
 manner of professionalism. i'm merely drawing your attention to the fact
that
 it can't be verified.

 ben


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  your logic is flawed. you assume that a majority of users is equivalent
to
  the totality of users. it's that simple.

 That's less flawed than assuming that a minority of users is equivalent to
 the totality of users.


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Re: changing servers' UID/GIDs

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 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:43:02PM +0300, Imre Oolberg wrote:
  I try to keep two machines running Debian v 3.0 the same, essentially
  mirrors of one another. But stupid me, i probably messed up the order
and
  installed Heartbeat, Postfix and MySQL with different sequence on each
  computer. Now i have same system users postfix, haclient and mysql with
  different UID/GIDs. I think it would be good to have systems the same
  down to its users' UID/GIDs.

 daemons which depend on hard-coded nummerical UIDs are the apt-get not
 worth of it.

  I believe i could quite easily just find files belonging to specific
  user/group and change them appropriately. But are there some hidden
rocks
  i could run into doing so? What about Debian package management, for
  example?

 locate the nummeric UID (e.g. 100).

 find -uid 100 further options, like permissions and type of inode)

  I'd be very grateful for any opinions on that matter. Sorry if this
  question is already answered somewhare and you can kindly point me to
that
  resource.

 just let the users be. glibc provide some functionality to lookup
 usernames to UIDs (cuserid and getlogin). hardcoded UIDs are not
 portable (beside root account) and should be avoided everytime you
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Re: Q: cfdisk error

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 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Elizabeth Barham wrote:

  Alice M. Pinard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Trying to ready a 60g drive on a Promise Ultra card for first use.
  
   used MAKEDEV to create /dev/hde
  
   when I did 'cfdisk /dev/hde' I got no partition table or unknown
   signature on partition table
  
   um... does that sound at all right?
 
  u no.
 
  You have more than one IDE card in the machine, yes? And you're trying
  to set up the system to use, at most, eight IDE drives?
 
  The kernel is going to have to recognize the card and set up the
  connections - usually done during bootstapping. During boot, does it
  recognize:
 
  1) The card (Promise Ultra)
  2) /dev/hde
 
  ? 'dmesg' should tell you.
 
  OTOH, if you mean the 60g drive is new and is what is referred to in
  first use, and you just plugged it into the IDE connectors on the
  mother board, you may want to use dmesg and see if it's on a
  different device, such as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd.
 
  I don't understand why you had to make /dev/hde unless you have more
  than one IDE operational controller in your system.
 
  Elizabeth
 

 Let me clarify

 I have one hard drive, 2g. It's almost full. The well-meaning bf bought me
 a 60g hd. My motherboard doesn't grok 60g. I bought a Promise Ultra
 ATA/100 pci adapter card to be its ide controller. Eventually I will be
 removing the 2g drive once I transfer its information to the 60g hard
 drive and do the voodoo necessary to make the 60g boot but that's
 further down the line...

 for now... I've installed the card, unwrapped the hard drive and attached
 it to the card

 when I boot up my kernel says (among other things)

 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
 PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09
 PIIX4: chipset revision 1
 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
 ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
 PDC20267: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 58
 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0b.0
 PDC20267: chipset revision 2
 PDC20267: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
 PDC20267: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode.
 ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
 ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:DMA
 hda: WDC AC34300L, ATA DISK drive
 hdb: FX001DE, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
 hde: MAXTOR 6L060J3, ATA DISK drive
 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
 ide2 at 0xd000-0xd007,0xb802 on irq 10
 hda: 8406720 sectors (4304 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=8896/15/63, UDMA(33)
 hde: 117266688 sectors (60041 MB) w/1819KiB Cache, CHS=116336/16/63,
UDMA(100)
 hdb: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
 Partition check:
  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
  hde: unknown partition table


 now, the 'hde' stuff is new this login, which is nice... means I did at
 least that right. Last night I had no /dev/hde so I had to use MAKEDEV to
 make it

 'cdisk /dev/hde' still however says the stuff about no partition
 table... if the drive is brand-spanking new does that make this message
 less unanticipated or is there still something probably not right with the
 situation?


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Re: gmplayer

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   Hello,

   Do you know about gmplayer? .deb files or tar.gz? I was looking for
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Re: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1

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 Color depths does not change anything (I have run at 4 different ones.)
 Apps that I know have this issue are: GAIM, Everybuddy, and Gabber.  I
 suspect more have this problem.  This leads me to think it's a X4.1 bug,
 but I'm not sure.

 Ted

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  Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:03 AM
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: Bad Drawable? GDK crashes using X4.1
 
  On Saturday 01 June 2002 23:05, Ted Goodridge, Jr wrote:
   On many, many GDK/GTK applications, I'm getting this error and a
   nasty unhappy exit.
  
   Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
 serial 12125 error_code 9 request_code 133 minor_code 1
  
   Is this an X4.1 bug or a GTK bug?  Has anyone else experienced this?
   I'm using woody with stock compiled packages.
 
  AFAIK, that error means the application tried to draw somewhere it
  shouldn't. Perhaps list some applications that do this and tell us
 when
  those apps crash. Also, try running at different color depths.
 
 
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Re: pleaz help with logrotate problem

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 hi all,

 i use debian potato 2.2r4 with kernel 2.4.18

 i want daemon.log rotated 1x per month and keep compressed files 6 months


 so this is my logrotate.conf file :
 --


 monthly

 # keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
 rotate 6

 # send errors to root
 errors root

 # create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
 create

 # uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
 compress

 # RPM packages drop log rotation information into this directory
 include /etc/logrotate.d

 # no packages own wtmp or btmp -- we'll rotate them here
 /var/log/wtmp {
 monthly
 create 0664 root utmp
 rotate 1
 }

 /var/log/btmp {
 missingok
 monthly
 create 0664 root utmp
 rotate 1
 }

 /var/log/syslog {
 weekly
 rotate 7
 }

 /var/log/daemon.log {
 monthly
 rotate 6
 }
 --
--

 and this is what i get :

 17984 -rw-r-1 root adm  18389771 Jun  4 14:16 daemon.log
 51412 -rw-r-1 root adm  52586881 Jun  4 06:26 daemon.log.0
   3696 -rw-r-1 root adm   3776667 Jun  3 06:26
daemon.log.1.gz
   3372 -rw-r-1 root adm   3445842 Jun  2 06:48
daemon.log.2.gz
   3736 -rw-r-1 root adm   3819965 Jun  1 06:28
daemon.log.3.gz
   3824 -rw-r-1 root adm   3909658 May 31 06:28
daemon.log.4.gz
   3784 -rw-r-1 root adm   3866802 May 30 06:28
daemon.log.5.gz
   4036 -rw-r-1 root adm   4126757 May 28 06:28
daemon.log.6.gz
   3736 -rw-r-1 root root  3819965 Jun  3 09:07
daemon.log.7.gz

 any idea why my conf is not respected ??
 thx 4 any help.

 José.




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Re: XFree 4.2

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 Hello,

 Where can I find deb packages for XFree4.2 ?

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Re: Re:List etiquette/Thanks everyone

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 Hi James
 Thanks for the reply regarding the printer. To be honest I cant remember
how
 I installed it. There seems to be so many different ways of doing some
tasks
 in linux it gets a bit comfusing at times.
 I know that my Canon bjc 265-sp was unsupported under one of the print
 setups, and that when I did get it setup the setup program asked you to
send
 your snail-mail address to him for whatever reason?

 Tomorrow I'll try printing again and try lprm and see what happens.
 Thanks for the tips.


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Re: Urgent...8 System Administrators for Frankfurt

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jon 
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:54 
PM
  Subject: Urgent...8 System Administrators 
  for Frankfurt
  
  
  Hi,
  
  We are urgently looking 
  for 8 different System Admin candidates for a
  project in Frankfurt for 
  one of the big German Companies. Preferably
  experience on Linux, Aix 
  or Windows NT. MUST be fluent in German. Very Good Salary 
  and
  working conditions 
  etc.
  
  Please can you let me know 
  if you have know of guys who may have these
  skills.
  
  Thanks and kind 
  regards,
  
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Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail

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From: Jason Bleazard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael van der Kolff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail


 Michael van der Kolff wrote:
 
 .
 
  Cyrus is probably the best IMAP server out there, and I'd recommend you
get
  used to it.  It is quite a step forward from the UW-IMAP server...
 
  Additionally, you can place a .procmailrc file in your home directory,
which
  I believe exim honours.
 
 .
 
  Hope it helps,
 
  Michael van der Kolff
  A Perfect PC
  Gymea, Sydney, Australia

 Thanks for the sample files.  I had more or less figured Cyrus wouldn't
 work with procmail due to Cyrus's database storage.  For some reason I
 had it in my head that procmail could only copy the mail files to an
 mbox or maildir.

 Then after reading your message I did a bit more Googling, and came up
 with this article which shows how to use procmail to put messages in
 Cyrus IMAP folders:

 http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0408.ldap3.html

 So it looks like Cyrus is back on my list.  I see now how these fit
 together... this is starting to make a bit more sense.

 Thanks,
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Re: mplayer

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: mplayer


  deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main
  deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ testing/

  i added those to my sources.list file and updated everythign went fine
  when i try and install it i get broken dependencies error it says
  package libdirectfb8 is not installible. Any ideas?

 it is in woody, http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libdirectfb8.html

 maybe you use potato or sid? just change testing to stable/unstable then
 # for potato
 deb http://marillat.free.fr/ stable main
 deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ stable/
 # for sid
 deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main
 deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net/ unstable/

 if you are running woody, maybe it's time to do a
 $ apt-get dist-upgrade

 greetz,

 Joris


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Re: ide bus speed

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Subject: RE: ide bus speed


  append=idebus=66

 Good luck recovering that drive.

 Lets understand one thing here. The IDE controller resides on the PCI bus.
The PCI bus (in affordable hardware) is 33MHz. ATA/66 / ATA/100 / ATA/133
has _NOTHING_ to do with the bus speed of the system.


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Re: ide bus speed

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: ide bus speed


 arthur_dent wrote:

 When booting both mylaptop and a desktop I notice that during the boot
 sequence it says:
 
 assuming 33MHz system bus speed...
 
 Does this mean it's assuming a PCI bus speed of 33MHz?
 Does that mean the system motherboard speed. i.e. some p.c's may
advertise a
 bus speed of 100MHz or more these days, I think.?
 
 Can you change this to speed things up?
 Thanks
 

 I'm no expert on hardware, so can't address your questions fully.
However, you can persuade the kernel to assume 66MHz instead of 33 by adding
the line
 
 append=idebus=66

 to /etc/lilo.conf and re-running lilo.




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Re: exim

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 It is possible to make in default potato's exim (3.12)
 support for lmtp?



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Re: ide bus speed

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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: ide bus speed


 It's only mean that you PCI bus runs at 33 Mhz and this not depend to IDE
 controller speed.

 -Original Message-
 From: arthur_dent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:45 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: ide bus speed


 When booting both mylaptop and a desktop I notice that during the boot
 sequence it says:

 assuming 33MHz system bus speed...

 Does this mean it's assuming a PCI bus speed of 33MHz?
 Does that mean the system motherboard speed. i.e. some p.c's may advertise
a

 bus speed of 100MHz or more these days, I think.?

 Can you change this to speed things up?
 Thanks



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