My lilypond - experience and workaround-solution with debian stretch: I updated 2 PCs (precisely a pc and a laptop) at the beginning of July 2017 from a zero-errors-running Jessie to a (censored by vice squad ;-) ) Stretch.
One of the knockouts was: I had overlooked, that lilypond is removed in Stretch "because" an unsolved Guile-"Problem". Nebbisch?! So I sat in the trap as a professional musician - had new systems, but they worked not for me into the right direction. But, I can't solve my professional tasks with 0.A.D., I need lilypond. ;-) At fist, I believed, I had to wait for a solution of this Guile-Problem. :-( Then I thought: This can take years, or decades - because I'm waiting already since 20 years very unsuccessful of a userfriendly out-of-the-box-and-without-mammut-latencies-running sound- and understandable printing-solution for linux too (I'm 59 now) - maybe, the solutions are written somedeay only on my tomb-bow posthumous, or on the tombs of my grand-grand-children ... Short: I had a very need for a workaround, and wrote for this to the lilypond-project itself. An easy and short correspondence came out and then came the right question from Trevor Daniels: " Can you not download one of the binaries from here? http://lilypond.org/development.html " A try and: BINGO! So, this was my way: - I'm using debian stretch, very new installation on an old quad AMD hardware - downloaded lilypond from http://lilypond.org/unix.html (in my case: the link of "GNU/Linux 64: LilyPond 2.18.2-1 64bit Systems. " ) - copied the downloaded file (named: "lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh" into /usr/local/bin by: cp ./lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh /usr/local/bin - then I set the x (for "make it running" ;-) ) by: chmod +x lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh - then I started the shell-script by ./lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh - and the whole lilypond was installed in a moment - so i started frescobaldi and frescobaldi found the lilypond now without further work - and: Is working now again! - I have a running lilypond under Debian Stretch(! wow! ;-) ) this way now again - maybe, it helps other Debian-Stretch-Tricked too. Ofcourse it would be better, if the Debian-Project would find a way to workaround the guile-"problem" and reintegrate immedially lilypond into the Stretch-repositories again (not all debian-users are such "creative IT-professionals" like me ;-) LOOOL (seriously: a big thanks to Trevor!! - some thousand of exclamation marks!) , maybe, my fellows in misery believe the debian statements really (like me at the beginning ;-) ) and without further questions ;-) , so the damage for them by such destructive "solutions" like simply "removing instead solving" (is this the new Debian-Way???) is predictable immense (Again: Is this todays "solution", simply to remove lilypond (what ever, p.e. oss, from there, a really way, if we fall back into old, not-running-times again this way - and this, after lilypond was a very good, responsible and professional running part of the debian project already, over years in the past?? Its a very serious PR-damage too for the Debian-Maintainers - not only in my own eyes - who needs this?? Whom's use is this? ... and all this in times of whole "virtual OS'ses"?? Or is it simple a hidden, silent sabotage of the Debian AND lilypond project??? Anyway. It's not the best reputation for the Debian-Projekt in my eyes and at moment, if problems are "solved" by removing and on the (tricky or unprofessional, this is here the question?) way of too shorttimed alarms! And Murdock wouldn't be lucky for sure, if he could heare, that this disstressing "Stretch" (hey folks, those was suckers, not pimples! ;-) ) is ironically dedicated - just him ... In the hope, my words help a bit - developers and users ... Lutz (a very professional musician in absolutely ALL genres, but :-( not an IT-professional (only for domestic use a little C, perl, php/html (don't laugh, I'm not the youngest anymore ;-) ), lisp (it's coming again! - I'm working on a little OS for very small personal computers: free hardware, free software, a strong (and consistent for aeons this way!) mathematical programming-paradigma like lambda-calculum for a small, energy-saving single-workstation for private users, "the windows" under the free software, so to say - linux is the free solution for the bigger ones (in my eyes - a revolutionary, but only a first - step, but really nothing for a small user without programming-knowledge in his sleepingroom ... ;-) - i need an "out-of-the-box-OS" - and Linux will never be a such one - because his overboarding complexity ... - there are a lot of peoples, which need urgendly to solve real life-problems and not newly, self-loving IT-triggered ones), sql, bash and - coming soon, bcause thats it! - hardwaretight- and micro- code. ), and not an english native speaker :-) - if everybody easily can read here ... ;) - so my new OS cant be in english, ofcourse :-( ;-) ...) Lutz