Re: $TERM = "xterm" acting funny on non-linux terms

[Ben Gertzfield]

> "Galen" == Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Galen> Such a bug has already been submitted.  See the log for
Galen> #14366.

Hm, that's good.

Galen> This is not as clear-cut a case as you might think.  The
Galen> problem with the xterm is not that it is linux-specific,
Galen> it's that it's too new for many old X windows systems out
Galen> there.  I feel that asking people with old systems to use a
Galen> different terminfo entry is not such a great hardship, when
Galen> it gives us the advantage of up-to-date support "out of the
Galen> box".

But if the xterm-r6 terminfo entry works for both Linux and old boxes,
shouldn't that be the default?

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Re: $TERM = "xterm" acting funny on non-linux terms

[Will Lowe]

On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Galen Hazelwood wrote:

> This is not as clear-cut a case as you might think.  The problem with
> the xterm is not that it is linux-specific, it's that it's too new for
> many old X windows systems out there.  I feel that asking people with
Yes.  And many people who administrate systems such as those simply refuse
to use more up-to-date alternatives like "rxvt".  In the interim,  I've
downloaded the debian source rxvt package and compiled it in my home
directory on the Solaris machines I have to use sometimes,  and use that
in place of the sun Xterm.  The system administrators aren't interested in
installing it by default,  it seems.

> hardship, when it gives us the advantage of up-to-date support "out of
I agree.  I wasn't concerned about the buginess, but just wanted to make
sure my system was behaving as it was to be expected to.

Will


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Re: $TERM = "xterm" acting funny on non-linux terms

[Galen Hazelwood]

Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> I noticed this too. Setting my term to xterm-r6 solved the problem.
>
> I think you or I should submit a bug report on the ncurses-term
> package -- its xterm terminfo entry is Linux-specific. The xterm-r6
> entry is correct, and works for both Linux and non-Linux xterms.
>
Such a bug has already been submitted.  See the log for #14366.

This is not as clear-cut a case as you might think.  The problem with
the xterm is not that it is linux-specific, it's that it's too new for
many old X windows systems out there.  I feel that asking people with
old systems to use a different terminfo entry is not such a great
hardship, when it gives us the advantage of up-to-date support "out of
the box".

--Galen



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Re: $TERM = "xterm" acting funny on non-linux terms

[Ben Gertzfield]

> "Will" == Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Will> I recently synced up my Debian machine with the unstable
Will> tree on ftp.debian.org.  Now if I connect to my linux box
Will> inside a non-linux xterm (non xterm-color, from a Sun
Will> machine, for example), all the text comes out in reverse
Will> video, which makes reading mail, viewing anything with
Will> "less", etc, kinda painful.

I noticed this too. Setting my term to xterm-r6 solved the problem.

I think you or I should submit a bug report on the ncurses-term
package -- its xterm terminfo entry is Linux-specific. The xterm-r6
entry is correct, and works for both Linux and non-Linux xterms.

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$TERM = "xterm" acting funny on non-linux terms

[Will Lowe]

I recently synced up my Debian machine with the unstable tree on
ftp.debian.org.  Now if I connect to my linux box inside a non-linux xterm
(non xterm-color,  from a Sun machine,  for example),  all the text comes
out in reverse video,  which makes reading mail,  viewing anything with
"less",  etc,  kinda painful.

Things are ok if I do "export TERM=vt100",  though,  so I'm wondering if
the termcap default entry for "xterm" has been changed.

Will


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