Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:59:36PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 20:59, Rob Sims wrote: How about the Wing? I'm reasonably happy with the predecessor, the MDA. You need to download Java if you need it (I did it to try an app, so I know it works). I plan on trying the Wing soon. The manual is on-line under the support tab. According to the manual, Java is now built in. The only missing feature appears to be an IrDA port. Used it once. I looked at the Wing, and it is very thick - really much to thick to carry on a belt and even in a pants pocket. It is also very heavy. From a feature standpoint, it is a super phone/pda. But, IMO, it fails as a portable phone. Just too much to carry around all day. When I put it in my pocket in the store 2 things happended - three sales guys started to follow me and I felt as if I were listing to starboard as I walked around the store, it was so heavy and bulky in my pocket...;-) I use the belt clip case that came with the MDA, which is even thicker than the Wing (1 vs 0.7), and find it not to be an issue. I'm a big guy, though. Another point about phone usage is that without an earpiece, you can hit the screen with your cheek, though that hasn't been a real problem like it was on the iPaq 6315 (talk about bulky...) I also think they took away the touch screen, but I may be wrong on that point. I'm fairly sure it's still there. They are available in T-mobile stores if you want to try one out. Let me know what you think. Whatever you end up with, I can really recommend the Garmin GPS10. It includes software for Windows, Windows Mobile, and Palm. It does a great job of routing, and integrates with the address book. The GPS iself works fine with Linux. If you find something thinner, and not an iPhone, let us know. -- Rob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
(OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. 1. Is there a way to synchronize my Kontact contacts, calendar, email, etc. with Windows Mobile devices? 2. If not, any recommendations for a phone/pda that will synchronize with Kontact? In addition, I would like to have: * 1.3-2 megapixel camera * wireless ear piece * ability to locally download Java Midlets that I create * compatible with US T-Mobile network * QWERTY keyboard or touchscreen keyboard Having a native Linux OS would be cool - I can imagine an ssh session from an xterm to a remote server.(Sorry, got carried away!) Am I asking too much? ;-) Thanks for any suggestions you may have! Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 5:37:20 pm Mark Phillips wrote: I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. 1. Is there a way to synchronize my Kontact contacts, calendar, email, etc. with Windows Mobile devices? 2. If not, any recommendations for a phone/pda that will synchronize with Kontact? In addition, I would like to have: * 1.3-2 megapixel camera * wireless ear piece * ability to locally download Java Midlets that I create * compatible with US T-Mobile network * QWERTY keyboard or touchscreen keyboard Having a native Linux OS would be cool - I can imagine an ssh session from an xterm to a remote server.(Sorry, got carried away!) Am I asking too much? ;-) Thanks for any suggestions you may have! Mark I use the treo680 and it worked with kpilot until I moved to Fedora to be in sync with redhat (or close) for a client. kpilot worked initially but after one of the updated Fedora decided to remove kpilot due to a dependancy with some stupid gnome package and gnome won. I've since tried to compile from source to get kpilot back but ran into too many dependancies and have little time to mess with it. The treo will ship appointments , contacts and other files to my laptop via bluetooth as well. Note: with the treo680 the usb sync cable I had to start the sync, then go to the settings and change something (I dont think it mattered what - I always changed the connection speed) once I hit ok then the sync would run personally I would rather go back to a date-timer with pencil paper before purchasing any sort of windows device. hope this helps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 5:48:13 pm Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 5:37:20 pm Mark Phillips wrote: I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. 1. Is there a way to synchronize my Kontact contacts, calendar, email, etc. with Windows Mobile devices? 2. If not, any recommendations for a phone/pda that will synchronize with Kontact? In addition, I would like to have: * 1.3-2 megapixel camera * wireless ear piece * ability to locally download Java Midlets that I create * compatible with US T-Mobile network * QWERTY keyboard or touchscreen keyboard Having a native Linux OS would be cool - I can imagine an ssh session from an xterm to a remote server.(Sorry, got carried away!) Am I asking too much? ;-) Thanks for any suggestions you may have! Mark I use the treo680 and it worked with kpilot until I moved to Fedora to be in sync with redhat (or close) for a client. kpilot worked initially but after one of the updated Fedora decided to remove kpilot due to a Should read: kpilot worked initially but after one of the updates Fedora decided to remove kpilot due to a dependancy with some stupid gnome package and gnome won. I've since tried to compile from source to get kpilot back but ran into too many dependancies and have little time to mess with it. The treo will ship appointments , contacts and other files to my laptop via bluetooth as well. Note: with the treo680 the usb sync cable I had to start the sync, then go to the settings and change something (I dont think it mattered what - I always changed the connection speed) once I hit ok then the sync would run personally I would rather go back to a date-timer with pencil paper before purchasing any sort of windows device. hope this helps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 04:37:20PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. [...] I'm really happy with the Sidekick 3, myself. Since it keeps its data on a server and just caches it on the phone, I don't worry about synchronization. There is a web interface to that data which is pretty nice, and if you really want to synchronize it shouldn't take too much effort to screen scrape the web interface. The phone and remote data continuously synchronize, so any change you make on either interface will be reflected on the other shortly thereafter. (This also means that losing/breaking a phone doesn't lose any data at all.) In addition, I would like to have: * 1.3-2 megapixel camera The Sidekick 3 has a 1.3 megapixel camera, the new (and much cheaper) Sidekick ID does not have any camera. The SK3 camera gives rather grainy results if there isn't lots of light, but it's enough to for quick snaps. * wireless ear piece Bluetooth support for whatever wireless earpiece you like. * ability to locally download Java Midlets that I create If you sign up as a developer at http://developer.danger.com/ and get a developer key http://developer.danger.com/site/faq#q60, you can develop and load your own applications on it. I'm not familiar with the term midlet but the Sidekick is a Java device so you should be able to do whatever you need to. * compatible with US T-Mobile network Only available from T-Mobile, in fact. * QWERTY keyboard or touchscreen keyboard Best keyboard on any mobile device I've ever tried. (Well, the original Sidekick color was slightly better, but only slightly.) Having a native Linux OS would be cool - I can imagine an ssh session from an xterm to a remote server.(Sorry, got carried away!) There is a solid ssh client for it. I use it regularly. I prefer mutt for email, and I can ssh to my machine at home and use it. Am I asking too much? ;-) Nope! One caveat, though: the cost of the constant synchronization and big, bright screen is that the battery life is a bit disappointing. I need to charge my phone every night. Thanks for any suggestions you may have! Mark --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/07 19:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 04:37:20PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. [...] I'm really happy with the Sidekick 3, myself. Since it keeps its data on a server and just caches it on the phone, I don't worry about synchronization. There is a web interface to that data which is pretty nice, and if you really want to synchronize it shouldn't take too much effort to screen scrape the web interface. The phone and remote data continuously synchronize, so any change you make on either interface will be reflected on the other shortly thereafter. (This also means that losing/breaking a phone doesn't lose any data at all.) Just a thought: Server side storage is No Big Deal if you have a GMail account, but some of us would rather keep our own data to ourselves. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVNw2S9HxQb37XmcRAh8jAKDJnTDiFsus385IUAbiq3Q3Lb3TGQCgrw+V HnUSRIka6UyRjokZxff1D50= =RUM1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:28:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/07 19:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 04:37:20PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. [...] I'm really happy with the Sidekick 3, myself. Since it keeps its data on a server and just caches it on the phone, I don't worry about synchronization. There is a web interface to that data which is pretty nice, and if you really want to synchronize it shouldn't take too much effort to screen scrape the web interface. The phone and remote data continuously synchronize, so any change you make on either interface will be reflected on the other shortly thereafter. (This also means that losing/breaking a phone doesn't lose any data at all.) Just a thought: Server side storage is No Big Deal if you have a GMail account, but some of us would rather keep our own data to ourselves. It depends on the data. I'm not particularly concerned about the data I have on my phone, in good part because I don't put data I want to keep private on it. Given that there is an ssh client that works nicely, if I want to keep something private I connect to my machine at home. Ron Johnson, Jr. --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 04:37:20PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: I need to buy a cell phone/pda, and I am looking at the T-Mobile Dash ( http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/dash/index.htm). However, I use Debian, KDE/Gnome and Kontact, so the Windows Mobile OS is not very appealing. 1. Is there a way to synchronize my Kontact contacts, calendar, email, etc. with Windows Mobile devices? You could try synce-kde; I have not tried it. I sync my Windows Mobile contacts calendar to XP. Email is via imaps to my self-hosted server. 2. If not, any recommendations for a phone/pda that will synchronize with Kontact? In addition, I would like to have: * 1.3-2 megapixel camera * wireless ear piece * ability to locally download Java Midlets that I create * compatible with US T-Mobile network * QWERTY keyboard or touchscreen keyboard How about the Wing? I'm reasonably happy with the predecessor, the MDA. You need to download Java if you need it (I did it to try an app, so I know it works). - 2 MP camera (though the 1.3 MP on the MDA is quite poor) - Bluetooth works with all earpieces I tried (Jabra, Motorola, Logitech), Garmin GPS 10, ActiveSync to PC, and using the phone as a modem. 3rd party freeware to redirect system sounds to bluetooth works. Logitech headset best in wind, and cheap. - slide-out keyboard; on-screen keyboard and character recognition as well. - PocketPuTTY for ssh; password auth only. Terminal emulation works with mutt well. - 802.11b (MDA has g enabling registry hack; Wing, b/g) - Display poor in bright light (MDA) - tcpmp makes a great media player - Any mp3 file for a ringtone (per contact, too) I plan on trying the Wing soon. The manual is on-line under the support tab. -- Rob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: (OT) Looking for Cell Phone/PDA Recommendations
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 20:59, Rob Sims wrote: How about the Wing? I'm reasonably happy with the predecessor, the MDA. You need to download Java if you need it (I did it to try an app, so I know it works). - 2 MP camera (though the 1.3 MP on the MDA is quite poor) - Bluetooth works with all earpieces I tried (Jabra, Motorola, Logitech), Garmin GPS 10, ActiveSync to PC, and using the phone as a modem. 3rd party freeware to redirect system sounds to bluetooth works. Logitech headset best in wind, and cheap. - slide-out keyboard; on-screen keyboard and character recognition as well. - PocketPuTTY for ssh; password auth only. Terminal emulation works with mutt well. - 802.11b (MDA has g enabling registry hack; Wing, b/g) - Display poor in bright light (MDA) - tcpmp makes a great media player - Any mp3 file for a ringtone (per contact, too) I plan on trying the Wing soon. The manual is on-line under the support tab. Rob, I looked at the Wing, and it is very thick - really much to thick to carry on a belt and even in a pants pocket. It is also very heavy. From a feature standpoint, it is a super phone/pda. But, IMO, it fails as a portable phone. Just too much to carry around all day. When I put it in my pocket in the store 2 things happended - three sales guys started to follow me and I felt as if I were listing to starboard as I walked around the store, it was so heavy and bulky in my pocket...;-) I also think they took away the touch screen, but I may be wrong on that point. They are available in T-mobile stores if you want to try one out. Let me know what you think. Thanks! Mark
