Re: (OT) Perl books
I highly recommend, for a first perl book, Sams Teach yourself Perl in 21 Days. Despite it's false title, it's a very well written book, the author Laura Lemay, is a very good technical writer. Once you've tackled that book. I do recommend picking up Programming Perl (3rd Edition). It's the perfect reference book and I often go to it. On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Jay Latham wrote: I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? -- Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nick Jennings
Re: (OT) Perl books
Hi, i'm new to this list and i'm a newbie... anyway, i would suggest the o'reilly perl cd bookshelf for this. (n.b. there is a mirror of it somehere on the internet, if you would like to have a look on that, email me privately. (that is obviously illegal, of course.) -- Calvin Lamer Uncertified Linux Player Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nick Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: (OT) Perl books I highly recommend, for a first perl book, Sams Teach yourself Perl in 21 Days. Despite it's false title, it's a very well written book, the author Laura Lemay, is a very good technical writer. Once you've tackled that book. I do recommend picking up Programming Perl (3rd Edition). It's the perfect reference book and I often go to it. On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Jay Latham wrote: I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? -- Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nick Jennings -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(OT) Perl books
I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? -- Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin
Re: (OT) Perl books
I have come to relize you don't really need a book for perl. You can learn most of perl online. Just search for Perl Tutorial on google. But then again I think if you are begining programming. You should most likely start with C. Its tougher but you can pick up a language pretty fast after learning C. Just my personal opinion. --adeo of alpha On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Jay Latham wrote: I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? -- Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (OT) Perl books
I'm pretty much where you are. It's those quick starts and stops that kill ya.Those books are good http://www.perl.org http://www.perlmonks.com are 2 sites that have some pretty good stuff. --- Jay Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? -- Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: (OT) Perl books
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Jay Latham uttered: I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? They are both great. By them both if you can, and start with Learning Perl. -- Steve I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. --Me pgpNqeKFVXrmo.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 04:30:10AM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Jay Latham uttered: before making the purchase. Any suggestions? They are both great. By them both if you can, and start with Learning Perl. ME TOO !!! ;-) Cheers, Joost
Re: (OT) Perl books
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:22:12 -0500, Jay Latham wrote: I hope I don't get flamed for asking this on this list but here goes. I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? -- Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin Jay, I got really good results from the Perl CD Bookshelf. It's worth every extra penny to have the (fully indexed) resources of 6 perl books available at the click of a browser button. Mike -- Michael Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] JRTC-IS System Administrator Raytheon Technical Services Co. Fort Polk, Louisiana
Re: (OT) Perl books
On Thursday 28 June 2001 15:52, Michael Merten wrote: I got really good results from the Perl CD Bookshelf. It's worth every extra penny to have the (fully indexed) resources of 6 perl books available at the click of a browser button. I can heartily second that recommendation. After I bought Learning Perl and Programming Perl and the Cookbook, I found the CD Bookshelf. For the price of any two of O'Reilly's Perl books, you get five or six of them cross indexed and hyperlinked. Best money I've spent in a while. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: (OT) Perl books
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:22:12 -0500, Jay Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jay I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming Jay and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good Jay place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for Jay a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Jay Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought Jay I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? If you've never done any programming what-so-ever, _Learning Perl_, aka the Llama book, is not your best choice. Wait, put down the pitchforks and listen! The Llama (or at least the 2nd edition; I haven't seen the 3rd yet) assumes quite a bit of shell and C coding experience, as well as a fairly broad Unix grounding. I've lead a class or two of newbies through it in a class/discussion style setting, and many of them were turned off. I'm starting up another study group of newbies, and this time I've decided to use a book called _Elements of Programming with Perl_. In contrast to the Llama, which teaches Perl to programmers, this book purports to teach programming to people, using Perl as the vehicle. It's worth at least a look. After you get through whatever introductory stuff and you're comfortable with the language, then you should pick up a copy of _Programming Perl_ (aka the Camel) and a copy of _The Perl Cookbook_ (aka the Ram). You won't need those right away, but eventually you'll come to like having them around. Good luck, john.
Re: (OT) Perl books
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Jay Latham wrote: I've decided that it's time I learned a little about programming and I've decided that, for various reasons, Perl would be a good place to start. But I'm confused on which book would be best for a total newbie. I've been leaning towards the oreilly books Learning Perl 3rd edition, and/or Programming Perl but thought I'd ask for opinons before making the purchase. Any suggestions? the camel book, which is a wonderful reference, 'comes with the meat' as oscar madison might say... $ dpkg -l perl\* | grep doc pn perl-5.004-doc none (no description available) ii perl-5.005-doc 5.005.03-7.1 Man pages and pod docs for Perl un perl-doc none (no description available) $ dpkg -L perl-5.005-doc | grep man1/perl /usr/share/man/man1/perldebug.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlapio.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlbook.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlcall.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perldata.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perl5004delta.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perldelta.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlembed.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perldsc.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlstyle.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq1.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq2.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq4.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq5.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq6.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq7.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq8.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlform.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfunc.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlguts.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlhist.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlipc.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perllocale.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlmod.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlobj.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlmodinstall.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlmodlib.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlop.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlpod.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlopentut.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlport.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlre.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlref.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlrun.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlreftut.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlsec.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlxstut.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlsub.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perltie.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perltoc.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlthrtut.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perltoot.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlvar.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlxs.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlbot.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perldiag.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq3.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq9.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perllol.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perlsyn.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/perltrap.1p.gz access these with perldoc perlrun (or man perlvar) for example. the perl-*-doc package also comes with extensive html docs stuffed into /usr/share/doc/ -- point lynx or konqueror or whatever your browser-of-the-moment happens to be, at /usr/share/doc/perl*doc/ $ dpkg -L perl-5.005-doc | grep share/doc /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/changes.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/clickable_image.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/cookie.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/crash.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/customize.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/diff_upload.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/dna.small.gif.uu.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/frameset.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/index.html.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/internal_links.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/javascript.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/monty.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/multiple_forms.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/nph-clock.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/nph-multipart.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/popup.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/save_state.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/tryit.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/wilogo.gif.uu.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/RunMeFirst.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/caution.xbm.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/cgi/file_upload.cgi.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/down.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/dus.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/findcp.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/findtar.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/muck.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g/ged.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g/ghosts.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g/gsh.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g/gcp.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g/gcp.man.gz /usr/share/doc/perl-5.005-doc/examples/g/gsh.man.gz
