Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2007-01-03 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:12:35AM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Wed January 3 2007 07:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 04:45:25AM +0100, Benjam? Villoslada wrote:
> > > El Diumenge 31 Desembre 2006 23:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
> > > > Can anyone tell me how to get audio input without disbling the rest of
> > > > the sound system? ?That's what I thought I needed /dev/dsp for. I need
> > > > to rip cassette tapes of church services to post on the church web
> > > > site.
> > >
> > > Maybe with alsaconf (as root) and then look for mute channels with
> > > alsamixer.
> >
> > The problem is that the recordin programs I've used say they cannot open
> > /dev/dsp, and, indeed, when I ls /dev I find that there is no /dev/dsp/
> > making the changes mentioned a few posts ago does indeed give me a
> > /dev/dsp, but then none of the usual audio programs (like xmms and
> > kaffeine) provide any sound.  Would the existence of /dev/dsp set all
> > the volume controls to zero?  And would they mysteriously reset to
> > their usable values when I undo the changes and reboot without a
> > /dev/dsp?
> >
> > There's something I don't understand here.
> 
> Alsa's mixer settings are all muted and set to zero by default, why I don't 
> know.

To avoid blowing up loudspeakers, I've been told.

> I always run aslamixer and set them to good values and then 
> run "alsactl store" to save them, but kmix or any other mixer can be used 
> also.

I run alsaconf.  It sets them to usable values.  But it didn't help when 
I had /dev/dsp in existence.

- hendrik


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Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2007-01-03 Thread Alan Ianson
On Wed January 3 2007 07:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 04:45:25AM +0100, Benjam? Villoslada wrote:
> > El Diumenge 31 Desembre 2006 23:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
> > > Can anyone tell me how to get audio input without disbling the rest of
> > > the sound system? ?That's what I thought I needed /dev/dsp for. I need
> > > to rip cassette tapes of church services to post on the church web
> > > site.
> >
> > Maybe with alsaconf (as root) and then look for mute channels with
> > alsamixer.
>
> The problem is that the recordin programs I've used say they cannot open
> /dev/dsp, and, indeed, when I ls /dev I find that there is no /dev/dsp/
> making the changes mentioned a few posts ago does indeed give me a
> /dev/dsp, but then none of the usual audio programs (like xmms and
> kaffeine) provide any sound.  Would the existence of /dev/dsp set all
> the volume controls to zero?  And would they mysteriously reset to
> their usable values when I undo the changes and reboot without a
> /dev/dsp?
>
> There's something I don't understand here.

Alsa's mixer settings are all muted and set to zero by default, why I don't 
know. I always run aslamixer and set them to good values and then 
run "alsactl store" to save them, but kmix or any other mixer can be used 
also.


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Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2007-01-03 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 04:45:25AM +0100, Benjam? Villoslada wrote:
> El Diumenge 31 Desembre 2006 23:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
> > Can anyone tell me how to get audio input without disbling the rest of
> > the sound system? ?That's what I thought I needed /dev/dsp for. I need
> > to rip cassette tapes of church services to post on the church web site.
> 
> Maybe with alsaconf (as root) and then look for mute channels with alsamixer.

The problem is that the recordin programs I've used say they cannot open 
/dev/dsp, and, indeed, when I ls /dev I find that there is no /dev/dsp/
making the changes mentioned a few posts ago does indeed give me a 
/dev/dsp, but then none of the usual audio programs (like xmms and 
kaffeine) provide any sound.  Would the existence of /dev/dsp set all 
the volume controls to zero?  And would they mysteriously reset to 
their usable values when I undo the changes and reboot without a 
/dev/dsp?

There's something I don't understand here.

-- hendrik

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Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2006-12-31 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
El Diumenge 31 Desembre 2006 23:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
> Can anyone tell me how to get audio input without disbling the rest of
> the sound system?  That's what I thought I needed /dev/dsp for. I need
> to rip cassette tapes of church services to post on the church web site.

Maybe with alsaconf (as root) and then look for mute channels with alsamixer.

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Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2006-12-31 Thread Marty

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 03:53:14PM +0100, Benjam? Villoslada wrote:
I've seen this message durning one reboot (in order to test oss modules 
load): "/etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d/!"


I see that my /etc/modprobe.conf is empty (no idea about the reason)  I've 
added include /etc/modprobe.d and now the system loads oss modules on boot:


$ cat /etc/modprobe.conf
include /etc/modprobe.d


I did this on my sarge system (which also didn't have a /dev/dsp) and 
one appeared.  I could cat from it, and cat /dev/urandom to it and get 
noise.  There are probably better things to cat to it.


Unfortunately, after I did this, none of my audio programs worked.  
Couldn't get sound out of kaffeine, xmms, konqueror


I know that xmms at least requires you to specify either ALSA or OSS in the 
sound driver configuration menu.




Is this a matter of /dev/dsp disabling alsa or something?

When I took the line out of /etc/modprobe.conf, making it empty again, 
and rebooted (just in case), /dev/dsp vanished, and sould still didn't 
come back.  I had a mute system.  It took powering it down to restore 
normal sound, without /dev/dsp.  This is probably a bug somewhere, that 
the sound card isn't being initialised properly.


Can anyone tell me how to get audio input without disbling the rest of 
the sound system?  That's what I thought I needed /dev/dsp for.


In Sarge some audio programs, like audacity use only OSS.  Otherwise you can use 
the ALSA sound devices.  With ALSA I suppose you have to disable real OSS, which 
has been deprecated anyway, and use the ALSA OSS-compatibility driver instead. 
I do this myself but use a combination of OSS programs that seems to require 
that I turn off the Gnome sound server (using the sound options in desktop 
preferences) but that could be a configuration error on my part.  This setup 
obviously does not support audio mixing.


 I need

to rip cassette tapes of church services to post on the church web site.


I've digitized a number of audio cassettes that using Gnome sound recorder, but 
getting the volume right was always tricky.




-- hendrik





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Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2006-12-31 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 03:53:14PM +0100, Benjam? Villoslada wrote:
> I've seen this message durning one reboot (in order to test oss modules 
> load): "/etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d/!"
> 
> I see that my /etc/modprobe.conf is empty (no idea about the reason)  I've 
> added include /etc/modprobe.d and now the system loads oss modules on boot:
> 
> $ cat /etc/modprobe.conf
> include /etc/modprobe.d

I did this on my sarge system (which also didn't have a /dev/dsp) and 
one appeared.  I could cat from it, and cat /dev/urandom to it and get 
noise.  There are probably better things to cat to it.

Unfortunately, after I did this, none of my audio programs worked.  
Couldn't get sound out of kaffeine, xmms, konqueror

Is this a matter of /dev/dsp disabling alsa or something?

When I took the line out of /etc/modprobe.conf, making it empty again, 
and rebooted (just in case), /dev/dsp vanished, and sould still didn't 
come back.  I had a mute system.  It took powering it down to restore 
normal sound, without /dev/dsp.  This is probably a bug somewhere, that 
the sound card isn't being initialised properly.

Can anyone tell me how to get audio input without disbling the rest of 
the sound system?  That's what I thought I needed /dev/dsp for. I need 
to rip cassette tapes of church services to post on the church web site.

-- hendrik


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Re: /dev/dsp missing (SOLVED)

2006-12-30 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
I've seen this message durning one reboot (in order to test oss modules 
load): "/etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d/!"

I see that my /etc/modprobe.conf is empty (no idea about the reason)  I've 
added include /etc/modprobe.d and now the system loads oss modules on boot:

$ cat /etc/modprobe.conf
include /etc/modprobe.d
$ lsmod|grep -i oss
snd_pcm_oss38368  0
snd_mixer_oss  15200  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm68644  3 snd_cmipci,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss28768  0
snd_seq_midi_event  7008  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq45680  6 
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device  7820  6 
snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd47012  16 
snd_cmipci,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device


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