Re: [OT] IBM, Oracle, SUSE: RHEL
Hi, On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 07:39:03PM -0300, riveravaldez wrote: > sorry for the noise, Then sorry too, but why did you make it? The chances that there will be any original comment in what is sure now to be an enormous thread is near-zero and I don't see what relevance it has to Debian users, only to users in the Red Hat ecosystem. This topic has honestly been done to death already in many other forums. I really don't understand what you hope to gain by bringing it up here. As a suggestion, have a read of this: https://lwn.net/Articles/935592/ and then in the unlikely event you have something to say/ask that has not already been brought up there, bring it up there - where it would be on-topic. Again, I strongly doubt that there is any viewpoint, opinion, hypothesis, cold- or hot-take that you get here that has not already been said there. But what you will get is a lot of pointless interaction. Congrats. Was that the goal? Regards, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: [OT] IBM, Oracle, SUSE: RHEL
riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, sorry for the noise, I'm just curious about the Debian community > opinions on the subjects more or less elaborated in these links: > > https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes > > https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/ > > https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/ > > Issues, actors, philosophies, perspectives, etc. Eighteen years ago I successfully argued at my company that the Red Hat revamp into "Enterprise Linux" meant that we were going to incur switching costs -- so we should switch to something with a better upgradability story. That something was Debian, which all of the sysadmins admitted to preferring at home anyway. I have not seen any reasons to reject that decision. It seems likely to me that IBM's threat to drop customers who redistribute their GPL'd packages is a GPL violation in itself. Lawyers will no doubt be involved. Many of the systems that Red Hat/IBM funded or adopted are systems that have caused me excess grief when they were brought into Debian. I hope that everybody actually using and developing these systems does well in the end. I have no fondness for corporations, especially IBM and Oracle. -dsr-
[OT] IBM, Oracle, SUSE: RHEL
Hi, sorry for the noise, I'm just curious about the Debian community opinions on the subjects more or less elaborated in these links: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/ https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/ Issues, actors, philosophies, perspectives, etc. Kind regards and sorry again for adding to the noise... Thanks in advance to everybody.
