Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-08 Thread Greg Norris
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:06:15PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Have you looked at pngcrush?
> 
> apt-cache show pngcrush

No, but I'll definitely look into it for next time.  Thanx!


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-08 Thread Greg Norris
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:36:30PM -0600, Alan Shutko wrote:
> That looks like it's 8 bits per color, or 24 bpp.  What does identify
> -verbose say about it?

It looks like you're correct.  Thanx, I'll remember this if the issue
comes up again. ;-)


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:35, csj wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:09 -0600,
> Greg Norris wrote:
> > 
> > I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My
> > wife has put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team,
> > which pretty much explains their entire strategy.  Feel free to
> > share! ;-)
> > 
> >http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/cornscolio.gif
> 
> Speaking of IP hassles, maybe you should have exported that into
> the free png format.
http://www.gregfolkert.net/pics/satire/tn/scolegalteam.png.html

There ya be...


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-08 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Greg Norris wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:34:59PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

Just out of curiousity, did you originally save it as a 24-bit or
8-bit PNG?  IIRC, GIFs are always 8-bit and 8-bit PNGs are comparable
in size.  I can understand how a 24-bit PNG would be bigger, but I can't
see how an 8-bit would be that much different in size.


The original image claims to be 8-bit... it's approximately 3 times the
size of the gif version.
  $ file cornscolio.*
  cornscolio.gif: GIF image data, version 89a, 788 x 1000
  cornscolio.png: PNG image data, 788 x 1000, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
  $ ls -l cornscolio.*
  -rw-r--r--1 adricadric  263471 Nov  4 17:49 cornscolio.gif
  -rw-r--r--1 adricadric  743422 Nov  4 17:32 cornscolio.png

Have you looked at pngcrush?

apt-cache show pngcrush

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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-07 Thread Alan Shutko
Greg Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The original image claims to be 8-bit... it's approximately 3 times the
> size of the gif version.

That looks like it's 8 bits per color, or 24 bpp.  What does identify
-verbose say about it?

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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-07 Thread Greg Norris
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:34:59PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Just out of curiousity, did you originally save it as a 24-bit or
> 8-bit PNG?  IIRC, GIFs are always 8-bit and 8-bit PNGs are comparable
> in size.  I can understand how a 24-bit PNG would be bigger, but I can't
> see how an 8-bit would be that much different in size.

The original image claims to be 8-bit... it's approximately 3 times the
size of the gif version.

  $ file cornscolio.*
  cornscolio.gif: GIF image data, version 89a, 788 x 1000
  cornscolio.png: PNG image data, 788 x 1000, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced

  $ ls -l cornscolio.*
  -rw-r--r--1 adricadric  263471 Nov  4 17:49 cornscolio.gif
  -rw-r--r--1 adricadric  743422 Nov  4 17:32 cornscolio.png


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-06 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Greg Norris wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:35:53AM +0800, csj wrote:

Speaking of IP hassles, maybe you should have exported that into
the free png format.


The original version was png, actually... I converted it to gif because
more browsers handle that format, and it has a significantly smaller
file size in this instance.  The site it's hosted on has a minimal
bandwidth allocation, so size was not an insignificant concern.  In
addition, the gif patent has expired in the USA (and is very close to
doing so elsewhere), and simply isn't an issue which troubles me all
that much.
If anyone requests the png version, I'd be happy to email it.  People
are welcome to share either version (email, posting on the web,
whatever).

Just out of curiousity, did you originally save it as a 24-bit or
8-bit PNG?  IIRC, GIFs are always 8-bit and 8-bit PNGs are comparable
in size.  I can understand how a 24-bit PNG would be bigger, but I can't
see how an 8-bit would be that much different in size.
-Roberto


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-06 Thread Greg Norris
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:35:53AM +0800, csj wrote:
> Speaking of IP hassles, maybe you should have exported that into
> the free png format.

The original version was png, actually... I converted it to gif because
more browsers handle that format, and it has a significantly smaller
file size in this instance.  The site it's hosted on has a minimal
bandwidth allocation, so size was not an insignificant concern.  In
addition, the gif patent has expired in the USA (and is very close to
doing so elsewhere), and simply isn't an issue which troubles me all
that much.

If anyone requests the png version, I'd be happy to email it.  People
are welcome to share either version (email, posting on the web,
whatever).


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-06 Thread csj
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:09 -0600,
Greg Norris wrote:
> 
> I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My
> wife has put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team,
> which pretty much explains their entire strategy.  Feel free to
> share! ;-)
> 
>http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/cornscolio.gif

Speaking of IP hassles, maybe you should have exported that into
the free png format.


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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-06 Thread Dave Thayer
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:52:09PM -0600, Greg Norris wrote:
> I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My wife has
> put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team, which pretty much
> explains their entire strategy.  Feel free to share! ;-)

Heh, heh, heh. He said 'crack'. Heh heh heh.

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Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-05 Thread Paul William
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:52, Greg Norris wrote:
> I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My wife has
> put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team, which pretty much
> explains their entire strategy.  Feel free to share! ;-)
> 
>http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/cornscolio.gif

LOL. Nice. 

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[OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-05 Thread Greg Norris
I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My wife has
put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team, which pretty much
explains their entire strategy.  Feel free to share! ;-)

   http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/cornscolio.gif


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