Re: [OT] Taking notes

2004-02-12 Thread Karsten M. Self 
on Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:59:57PM +, Jonathan Matthews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Fairly OT for d-u, but I'm wondering what people use to take notes for 
 courses.

Stiff-backed, three-hole drilled, microperf, narrow-ruled yellow 8.5x11
pad, Uni-Ball rollerball pen, blue ink.



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Re: [OT] Taking notes

2004-02-12 Thread Nano Nano 
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:21:08PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 on Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:59:57PM +, Jonathan Matthews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  Fairly OT for d-u, but I'm wondering what people use to take notes for 
  courses.
 
 Stiff-backed, three-hole drilled, microperf, narrow-ruled yellow 8.5x11
 pad, Uni-Ball rollerball pen, blue ink.

Lefties like me get ink or lead all over the sides of our hands when we 
do that.  On a related note, left-handed == right-brained == visual, 
non-linear thinker which is why I find all standard PIMs maddening.

I've tried several tools like Concept mapping but they don't account for 
a visual right-brainer who also has a rigorous mathematical structural 
concept of the correct -- they just think if you can smear your thoughts 
all over the place you'll be happy.

The thing I wrote myself is making me happy.  Any other seriously 
left-handed people have any insights?  I've thought about this a lot.


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Re: [OT] Taking notes

2004-02-12 Thread s. keeling 
Incoming from Karsten M. Self:
 on Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:59:57PM +, Jonathan Matthews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  Fairly OT for d-u, but I'm wondering what people use to take notes for 
  courses.
 
 Stiff-backed, three-hole drilled, microperf, narrow-ruled yellow 8.5x11
 pad, Uni-Ball rollerball pen, blue ink.

Yellow?!?   :-)

I do the same, but I also use a short perl script to accept mouse
cut+paste blocks to a file; it date stamps each entry.  Just type
things.pl, highlight some text somewhere, paste it in with the
mouse, and finish with CTRL-D:

-  snip  -
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
#  ~/devl/perl/things.pl  replaces ~/sh/things.sh; datestamps
# and separates entries.
#
#  13Apr2002   s. keeling   0001   replace things.sh
#

use strict;

my ( $outfile, $now );

chomp( $now = qx(date) );

$outfile = qq($ENV{HOME}/dox/things_to_remember.txt);

open( THINGS,  $outfile ) ||
  die qq($0: could not open $outfile for append: $!);

print THINGS \n\n . q( - ) . $now . \n\n;

while( STDIN ) {
print THINGS;
}

close( THINGS );
-  snip  -


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[OT] Taking notes

2004-02-08 Thread Jonathan Matthews 
Fairly OT for d-u, but I'm wondering what people use to take notes for 
courses.

I'm studying T171 with the Open University (it's a compulsory course on 
the way to their BSc in PeeCees), and a lot of the assessment is writing 
up what you thought about various resources (websites, reports, etc) 
that they throw at you.  The important thing is the note-taking and 
subsequent writing up - /not/ the opinions you actually express in the 
notes.

So - I'm looking for packages which let me keep a structured record of 
what I was looking at, where it was, when I looked, and what my thoughts 
were.  I've found hnb, but that's about it.

Any suggestions?  Would a custom (v.v.v.v. simple) DTD be an idea?  What 
emacs packages let me input the notes into a valid XML file adhering to 
my simple DTD in a pointy-clicky sort of way?  Is this not the way 
forward?

Cheers!
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Re: [OT] Taking notes

2004-02-08 Thread Nano Nano 
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:59:57PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
 
 Any suggestions?  Would a custom (v.v.v.v. simple) DTD be an idea?  What 
 emacs packages let me input the notes into a valid XML file adhering to 
 my simple DTD in a pointy-clicky sort of way?  Is this not the way 
 forward?

XML is the way to go.  I wrote my own client:

http://home.comcast.net/~40208.nospam/pim.png

with a bunch of keyboard shortcuts.  Emacs would probably have been 
superior, but I don't like emacs.  I tried every other PIM-, 
list-maker, or database-frontend in Debian and gave up and wrote one 
that works the way I want it.

It's great for 1mb structured databases.


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Re: [OT] Taking notes

2004-02-08 Thread Cristian Gutierrez 
Jonathan Matthews wrote:
Fairly OT for d-u, but I'm wondering what people use to take notes for 
courses.

I'm studying T171 with the Open University (it's a compulsory course on
the way to their BSc in PeeCees), and a lot of the assessment is
writing up what you thought about various resources (websites, reports,
etc) that they throw at you.  The important thing is the note-taking
and subsequent writing up - /not/ the opinions you actually express in
the notes.

So - I'm looking for packages which let me keep a structured record of
what I was looking at, where it was, when I looked, and what my
thoughts were.  I've found hnb, but that's about it.

Any suggestions?  Would a custom (v.v.v.v. simple) DTD be an idea?
What emacs packages let me input the notes into a valid XML file
adhering to my simple DTD in a pointy-clicky sort of way?  Is this not
the way forward?

Try Emacs-wiki. In one (text) file you begin writing your assessments'
resources, and then write a (say) LinkedOpinions node linked to each one
of them (as easy to write the capitalized words before, and press enter
on it). You can obviously link anything to anything, provided it is on
your Wiki or has an associated URL.

IMHO, it's a better solution than a DTD or other hierarchic structure,
due to the flexibility wiki style editing gives you.

And if you want to structure it in some way to be able to post-process
lists, items and other stuff on you notes, you could use some tags (like
[IMPORTANT], [CONCLUSION], etc.) to look for them with grep or other
standard tools.

HTH,

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