Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-31 Thread kj

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 08:50, kj wrote:

kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop 
form factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5 hard optical 
drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I 
have found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  
Mine is a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there 
are very few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, 
even if the boards are compatible.


--kj





This is the newer (AM2) version of the one I was thinking of:
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/Product/MB/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specificationno=239 



Not quite what you're looking for but as close as I've been able to 
get to it.


Thanks.  No I don't actually have a Turion, and you have all the 
important bits of the thread... :)


How can one tell whether a mobo is surreptitiously compatible with 
current Turion64 or Turion64x2 CPUs?


I found this page which gives some idea:

http://angelfall.s39.xrea.com/area2ch/turion-e.html

But of course, manufacturers often change things, without changing the 
board revision number.  I've read a couple of reports where a BIOS 
update was required to solve some issue with the hardware, but the BIOS 
update removed Turion64 compatibility - chicken-and-egg situation.


This page also has some useful info:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article300-page6.html

Other than that you have to depend on the manufacturer to officially 
support it.  The only such board I know of is the MSI K8MM3-V, which I 
can no longer find for sale anywhere.


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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-31 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/31/08 04:54, kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 08:50, kj wrote:

kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop 
form factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5 hard optical 
drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I 
have found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX 
board.  Mine is a single core, so you may have a little more luck, 
but there are very few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) 
compatibility, even if the boards are compatible.


--kj





This is the newer (AM2) version of the one I was thinking of:
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/Product/MB/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specificationno=239 



Not quite what you're looking for but as close as I've been able to 
get to it.


Thanks.  No I don't actually have a Turion, and you have all the 
important bits of the thread... :)


How can one tell whether a mobo is surreptitiously compatible with 
current Turion64 or Turion64x2 CPUs?


I found this page which gives some idea:

http://angelfall.s39.xrea.com/area2ch/turion-e.html

But of course, manufacturers often change things, without changing the 
board revision number.  I've read a couple of reports where a BIOS 
update was required to solve some issue with the hardware, but the BIOS 
update removed Turion64 compatibility - chicken-and-egg situation.


This page also has some useful info:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article300-page6.html

Other than that you have to depend on the manufacturer to officially 
support it.  The only such board I know of is the MSI K8MM3-V, which I 
can no longer find for sale anywhere.


:)

I already found both of those sites.  Socket 754, though.

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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-31 Thread kj

Ron Johnson wrote:

I already found both of those sites.  Socket 754, though.



Well, aside from the Mini-ITX AM2 board from Albatron, this is all I've 
been able to find that lists Turion64.  Socket 754 is fine for me though 
 - I have a ML-34 sitting in a dead notebook. 1.8GHz with 1MB cache, 
plenty powerful for my needs...


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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-30 Thread kj

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does well 
at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking something 
passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop form factor 
would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5 hard optical drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I have 
found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  Mine is 
a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there are very 
few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, even if the 
boards are compatible.


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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-30 Thread kj

kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop form 
factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5 hard optical drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I have 
found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  Mine is 
a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there are very 
few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, even if the 
boards are compatible.


--kj





This is the newer (AM2) version of the one I was thinking of:
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/Product/MB/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specificationno=239

Not quite what you're looking for but as close as I've been able to get 
to it.


--kj


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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/30/08 08:50, kj wrote:

kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop 
form factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5 hard optical 
drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I 
have found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  
Mine is a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there 
are very few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, 
even if the boards are compatible.


--kj





This is the newer (AM2) version of the one I was thinking of:
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/Product/MB/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specificationno=239 



Not quite what you're looking for but as close as I've been able to get 
to it.


Thanks.  No I don't actually have a Turion, and you have all the 
important bits of the thread... :)


How can one tell whether a mobo is surreptitiously compatible with 
current Turion64 or Turion64x2 CPUs?


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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-29 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/27/08 05:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 Is anyone running such a beast?  I've seen reviews of mobo/CPU
 combos, but they are old Socket 754 systems.

 TIA
 I am.
 
 What mobo and which specific CPU?
 
AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.

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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-29 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/27/08 05:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

Is anyone running such a beast?  I've seen reviews of mobo/CPU
combos, but they are old Socket 754 systems.

TIA

I am.

What mobo and which specific CPU?


AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop 
form factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5 hard optical 
drives.


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Jefferson LA  USA

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[OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-27 Thread Ron Johnson
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Is anyone running such a beast?  I've seen reviews of mobo/CPU
combos, but they are old Socket 754 systems.

TIA
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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-27 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Ron Johnson wrote:
 
 Is anyone running such a beast?  I've seen reviews of mobo/CPU
 combos, but they are old Socket 754 systems.
 
 TIA
I am.

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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

2008-07-27 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 07/27/08 05:47, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 Is anyone running such a beast?  I've seen reviews of mobo/CPU
 combos, but they are old Socket 754 systems.

 TIA
 I am.

What mobo and which specific CPU?

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Jefferson LA  USA

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York is doomed.
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