Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 01:28:54AM +, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:

> This is because I have just got woody, and aparently I, as a newbie,
> have to figure out how to install & compile a special driver so woody
> can talk to the on-board four mb of memory on my Intel 82815 video
> card.  I sure would like to just be able to have base-config just get
> it up right as an xfree86 terminal.

Don't use Woody.  Woody is years out of date.  Sarge detects most video
cards flawlessly.
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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-05 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 01:28:54AM +, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
> I'd just like to know what video card works best "out of the box" with
> debian.

Do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86.  Look at the choices for video 
drivers which are there.  Google for video cards which work with those 
drivers.  These will video cards will "just work."
> 
> BTW, what is VESA?!

Unaccelerated "it just works" mode that all video cards support.  
However, nothing will be accelerated.


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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-05 Thread Scotty Fitzgerald
I'd just like to know what video card works best "out of the box" with
debian.


This is because I have just got woody, and aparently I, as a newbie,
have to figure out how to install & compile a special driver so woody
can talk to the on-board four mb of memory on my Intel 82815 video
card.  I sure would like to just be able to have base-config just get
it up right as an xfree86 terminal.

I'm not freaking, tho, as I have knoppix running smooth as silk on
another partition,

BTW, what is VESA?!
---
Scotty

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:50:08 +0200, Paul Johnson
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>> What I would like to do is get an nVidia card.
>
>Mistake du jour!  You'll only spend more on the nVidia for even
>crappier drivers.  Just get a newer Radeon if you want graphics
>performance.  I believe there's actually working open drivers for the
>ATI adapters.
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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-02 Thread Mike Chandler
On Friday 01 October 2004 07:28 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Greetings list,


> I would like to hear what models and brands of nVidia
> cards the list members use and what their experiences
> with those have been.  My card is a Radeon 9000 Pro
> 128 MB that cost US$ 85 in July '03.  I am looking for
> something with comparable or better performance in the
> sub-$100 range.

I have zero experience with ATI. I have used 3 different nvidia cards, an 
FX5200, a ti4400 and my new one is a Geforce6800GT which I got simply to play 
doom3, which even run with cvscedega runs very well.
Other than the usual newbie problems figuring out how to install the drivers I 
have had absolutely no problems.
Nvidia has a lot of cards that will fill the bill, I think the FX series are 
now down in price.


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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-01 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:28:05PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Greetings list,
...
> What I would like to do is get an nVidia card.  Partly
> because I am sick of ATi, and partly because my nForce2
> motherboard will hopefully be a bit more compatible
> with the nVidia card than it has been with the ATi
> card.

Don't know how well they'll communicate. I seem to remember reading
that nvidia boards presented more problems than average when I was
looking for a new MB, so I avoided them.


> I would like to hear what models and brands of nVidia
> cards the list members use and what their experiences
> with those have been.  My card is a Radeon 9000 Pro
> 128 MB that cost US$ 85 in July '03.  I am looking for
> something with comparable or better performance in the
> sub-$100 range.

I went with a Leadtek 5700 card, but that's not in this range AFAIK. 
Nonetheless I generally have had minimal problems with it.  Read the
docs for the modules and kernel bits, and note what needs to be done
for X as well.


Kenward
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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-01 Thread Roy Pluschke
On October 1, 2004 20:29, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
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> > Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>What I would like to do is get an nVidia card.
> >
> > Mistake du jour!  You'll only spend more on the nVidia for even
> > crappier drivers.  Just get a newer Radeon if you want graphics
> > performance.  I believe there's actually working open drivers for the
> > ATI adapters.
>
> Problem is that the newer Radeon cards have even worse support
> in the open source drivers.  It is really aggravating since
> I want a card that will allow me to play my games in Linux.
> The two that I play now are Neverwinter Nights and America's
> Army.  I would probably get more in the future, but not if I
> can't my video card to perform better.
>
> Based on what I have seen by googling for the various problems
> that I have had, there are far fewer problems with nVidia
> cards than with ATi cards when it comes to Linux gaming.
>
> Anyway, how bad are the nVidia drivers?  The only experience
> I have had with them (one high-end workstation in the Linux
> lab I formerly admined) was fairly positive.
>

I have 4 computers in the house.  2 with ATI cards and 2 with NVidia cards.  
I've had far fewer problems with the nvidia cards under both linux and 
windows.  I don't play many games but make heavy use of OpenGL (Maya, Blender 
etc).  Go over to the Blender forums and you will see sticky threads devoted 
to getting ATI cards to work while the NVidia cards just do. I don't know 
much about comparative DirectX support and frankly I don't care.

RJP


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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote:
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Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

What I would like to do is get an nVidia card.

Mistake du jour!  You'll only spend more on the nVidia for even
crappier drivers.  Just get a newer Radeon if you want graphics
performance.  I believe there's actually working open drivers for the
ATI adapters.
Problem is that the newer Radeon cards have even worse support
in the open source drivers.  It is really aggravating since
I want a card that will allow me to play my games in Linux.
The two that I play now are Neverwinter Nights and America's
Army.  I would probably get more in the future, but not if I
can't my video card to perform better.
Based on what I have seen by googling for the various problems
that I have had, there are far fewer problems with nVidia
cards than with ATi cards when it comes to Linux gaming.
Anyway, how bad are the nVidia drivers?  The only experience
I have had with them (one high-end workstation in the Linux
lab I formerly admined) was fairly positive.
-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: [OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-01 Thread Paul Johnson
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Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What I would like to do is get an nVidia card.

Mistake du jour!  You'll only spend more on the nVidia for even
crappier drivers.  Just get a newer Radeon if you want graphics
performance.  I believe there's actually working open drivers for the
ATI adapters.
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[OT] Video card recommendations.

2004-10-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Greetings list,
I will make this short.  Basically, I am fed up with
my Radeon video card.  Driver support from ATi sucks,
I can hardly play America's Army or Neverwinter Nights.
When I can play them, I am stuck with very low quality
compatibility textures.  I have tried several dri-trunk
packages (both specifically for Debian and manually
compiled) with and without the available S3TC patches.
None have worked, ranging from non-functional X to
locking up when trying to play one of the games.
To top it all off, for the longest time I have been
getting artifacts--in the way of garbled text characters
on the console and BIOS setup screens and lots of
random blue or red pixels in any graphical environment.
This is most aggravating.
What I would like to do is get an nVidia card.  Partly
because I am sick of ATi, and partly because my nForce2
motherboard will hopefully be a bit more compatible
with the nVidia card than it has been with the ATi
card.
I would like to hear what models and brands of nVidia
cards the list members use and what their experiences
with those have been.  My card is a Radeon 9000 Pro
128 MB that cost US$ 85 in July '03.  I am looking for
something with comparable or better performance in the
sub-$100 range.
I guess this turned out a bit longer than I expected.
Thanks in advance for the insights and recommendations.
-Roberto Sanchez


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