Re: [OT] Wireless Router WGR614v9 issues

2009-05-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:32:28PM -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:51:30AM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:

  And after having to reboot constantly for weeks, I purchashed
  a PC Engines Wrap board, loaded up some M0n0wall firewall software and
  never looked back. 
 
 If I'm looking at the correct site it looks to be discontinued and not a
 wireless device.  http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm

It is discontinued, indeed. Replaced with a better one: 
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm

It indeed does not include a wireless adapter. But you can connect one
through USB if you want. Mine runs Lenny (but without a wireless
adapter)

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[OT] Wireless Router WGR614v9 issues

2009-05-20 Thread Daryl Styrk
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I'm having some issues with a new router.  For normal browsing it seems
to perform fine.  However when I start to download large files speeds drop
off from around over 1400KB/s down to 120KB/s.  I haven't put a stopwatch
to it but it seems to be around the same amount of time.  A simple restart
of the router and all is fine.  This most often happens when getting
binaries from newsgroups.  Either that has something to do with it or just
normally where the large files come from I'm not sure. Remembering reading 
something a while back about a lot of connections being the sinking point 
for most routers I cut those back to 10 from 20 with the same results.  

I thought that I was being throttled by the ISP, but then  tried
half a dozen times wired with large files and everything has worked as
expected with speeds staying up around 1000K. I even noticed when moving 
large files across the wlan via scp or rsycn the speeds are a lot slower 
than I had expected.  Starting around 2M/s dropping off to around 700K or 
less.  

I know the router isn't exactly the best of the bunch, it was the cheapest
on the shelf.  I've upgraded the firmware to the latest and greatest with
no increase in performance.  I'm at a bit of a loss of what to do next
short of replacing the router.  I read a bit about the DD-WRT project but
it seems my model (WGR614v9) is not yet supported with a work in progress
tag.

And what exactly is going on?  Some packet collision or something?  I'm no
networking guru so I don't know all the terms I should be searching for.

Running tests at speakeasy.net/speed test shows me the following.. 

- -Wireless- (after the first 'crash' downloading) 
Download Speed: 831 kbps (103.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1941 kbps (242.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

- -Wireless- (after a router restart)
Download Speed: 13376 kbps (1672 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2773 kbps (346.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

- -Wired-
Download Speed: 14676 kbps (1834.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2799 kbps (349.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

So as you can see I would really like to get to the bottom of this. 

Any ideas on where to go from here or at least some things I should be
searching for and/or reading about would be appreciated. 

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Re: [OT] Wireless Router WGR614v9 issues

2009-05-20 Thread Daryl Styrk
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:51:30AM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:
 
 You didn't mention what kind of internet service you have. Cable, DSL?
 I ask because I remember having issues with a Netgear router when I
 got my first DSL line in 2001. The default MTU of 1500 cuased some
 issues. Setting it to 1492 seemed to fix downloads. Though the router 
 would still freeze and  need a reboot once a every couple of days.

Currently cable with comcast. 

 And after having to reboot constantly for weeks, I purchashed
 a PC Engines Wrap board, loaded up some M0n0wall firewall software and
 never looked back. 

If I'm looking at the correct site it looks to be discontinued and not a
wireless device.  http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm

 Have you tried posting your question over at the netgear tech support
 forum? Seems active.

I'll look into that.  To be honest I completely forgot it was around. 

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Naples FL, USA



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Re: [OT] Wireless Router WGR614v9 issues

2009-05-20 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 08:03:13AM -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
 
 I'm having some issues with a new router.  For normal browsing it seems
 to perform fine.  However when I start to download large files speeds drop
 off from around over 1400KB/s down to 120KB/s.  I haven't put a stopwatch
 to it but it seems to be around the same amount of time.  A simple restart
 of the router and all is fine.  This most often happens when getting
 binaries from newsgroups.  Either that has something to do with it or just
 normally where the large files come from I'm not sure. Remembering reading 
 something a while back about a lot of connections being the sinking point 
 for most routers I cut those back to 10 from 20 with the same results.  

You didn't mention what kind of internet service you have. Cable, DSL?
I ask because I remember having issues with a Netgear router when I
got my first DSL line in 2001. The default MTU of 1500 cuased some
issues. Setting it to 1492 seemed to fix downloads. Though the router 
would still freeze and  need a reboot once a every couple of days.

 I know the router isn't exactly the best of the bunch, it was the cheapest
 on the shelf.  I've upgraded the firmware to the latest and greatest with
 no increase in performance.  I'm at a bit of a loss of what to do next
 short of replacing the router.  I read a bit about the DD-WRT project but
 it seems my model (WGR614v9) is not yet supported with a work in progress
 tag.

And after having to reboot constantly for weeks, I purchashed
a PC Engines Wrap board, loaded up some M0n0wall firewall software and
never looked back. 

 And what exactly is going on?  Some packet collision or something?  I'm no
 networking guru so I don't know all the terms I should be searching for.

Have you tried posting your question over at the netgear tech support
forum? Seems active.


 


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Re: [OT] Wireless Router WGR614v9 issues

2009-05-20 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:32:28PM -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:51:30AM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote: 
 Currently cable with comcast. 

Ah, so the MTU should be a non issue.

 
  And after having to reboot constantly for weeks, I purchashed
  a PC Engines Wrap board, loaded up some M0n0wall firewall software and
  never looked back. 
 
 If I'm looking at the correct site it looks to be discontinued and not a
 wireless device.  http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm

My mistake. The WRAP has been replaced with the Alix series boards.
Some updated features but essentialy the same. m0n0wall is supported
on the Alix. See: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2.htm

I like these single board computers for their versatility and their
recycle factor as well. I currently use a Alix 2d2 as a dedicated
music server. When time come to replace (if ever) the WRAP as a router,
I can always find some other use (home automation? NTP server?
ham radio related like packet?) for it is x86 based.

You can go about adding wireless via two methods: Add a mini-PCI
wireless card, pigtail, antenna to the Alix and enable wireless via
m0n0wall. Or, you could just use your existing Netgear router as a
dedicated wireless AP (turn off DHCP). When I was ready to go wireless 
I found it much cheaper to buy a used Linksys wireless router locally from 
Craigslist for $15 USD. I can also use the ethernets ports as a regular 
switch for wired devices.

Please check out the m0n0wall software. All web based config with tons
of cool features.

http://m0n0.ch/wall/

Runs on generic x86 pc's as well. But the WRAP and Alix are super
efficent at 5 watts load.
 


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