Re: [OT] google.com
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:15 +, Camaleón wrote: If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there. http://www.affiliateprograms.com/blog/what-to-know-about-duckduckgo/ (Didn't read the duckduckgo article completely myself.) http://scroogle.org/ https://www.ixquick.com/ In the past other search engines started nice and became evil later, e.g. Clusty became Yippy. Most nice search engines only work in English, if they provide e.g. German it happens that you'll get original English sides, automatically translated into a mix of broken and faked German (similar to Chaplin's The Great Dictator ... Wiener Schnitzel Sauerkraut). I get best search results using google.de and google.com. http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en Take a look at Curt's link, you also can try http://www.google.com/ncr instead. Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by keeping their cookies :-( Or by Firefox addons. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339740133.2650.26.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
Apologize http://www.scroogle.org/sucks.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339740319.2650.27.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On 2012-06-15, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr opened still the Malaysia language. Did you say what browser you're using? Do you have the same problem with all browsers? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjtlq71.1ss.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: [OT] google.com
What IP does a webpage see if you visit it? To ensure what they really see go to http://www.heise.de/netze/tools/meine-ip-adresse/ The German words [1] in English: Your request is from the IP address: Then check the IP at https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?form_type=simplefull_query_string=searchtext=do_search=Search - Ralf [1] Ihre Anfrage kommt von der IP-Adresse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339747375.2650.77.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On 2012-06-15, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2012-06-15, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr opened still the Malaysia language. Did you say what browser you're using? Do you have the same problem with all browsers? By the way, a technical evidence research project I have conducted in my personal laboratory with iceweasal demonstrates that the www.google.com/ncr url does not work as advertised if you're not accepting cookies. Are you accepting cookies in your browser? Do you remember the ones Mom you used to make, hot out of the oven? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjtlrtp.2gh.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: [OT] google.com
From the German Google it usually is possible to switch to google.com by the link at the right bottom corner, at the moment it stays at google.de here. When I'm using the link from http://www.google.com.my/ I also get the German Google. http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en is ok here and http://www.google.com/ncr is ok here too, both will give me an English Google. Ubuntu Precise Firefox 13.0 for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339748884.2650.84.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:44:11AM BST, lina wrote: Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr opened still the Malaysia language. What web browser are you using and do you have cookies enabled? Does this happen in any other browser? Which country do you reside in? P.S. Am I to assume that it is still on Debian? Cheers, -- rjc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615071224.ga18...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2012-06-15, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr opened still the Malaysia language. Did you say what browser you're using? Do you have the same problem with all browsers? The problem only exist when I used the iceweasle $ iceweasel -v Mozilla Iceweasel 10.0.5 The cookies are enabled. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B93SVRfpVVg3cXU5R295RTZLMEE/edit?pli=1 On Web there is none such problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjtlq71.1ss.cu...@einstein.electron.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJmkSdt4PtxKB5s3LCOs0bEG_nyQtGV2uMtMHpW=g9kc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: What IP does a webpage see if you visit it? To ensure what they really see go to http://www.heise.de/netze/tools/meine-ip-adresse/ The German words [1] in English: Your request is from the IP address: Then check the IP at https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?form_type=simplefull_query_string=searchtext=do_search=Search Thanks, the reported IP the same as the ipaddress. Seems IP no problem. Even I changed to different cable. - Ralf [1] Ihre Anfrage kommt von der IP-Adresse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339747375.2650.77.camel@precise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJmnrv1Vn4Q=3y7rnxc202tjyzt5cn4vgbvyzxumjfwh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: From the German Google it usually is possible to switch to google.com by the link at the right bottom corner, at the moment it stays at google.de here. When I'm using the link from http://www.google.com.my/ I also get the German Google. This one I got the Malaysia one, but different from the www.google.com malaysia one. http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en is ok here and Here is okay too. http://www.google.com/ncr is ok here too, both will give me an English Google. Here is not okay. Thanks with best regards, Ubuntu Precise Firefox 13.0 for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339748884.2650.84.camel@precise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmmdyxtiwn6uv61j75nuh0_qdcxunkzardy7oxwh5ru...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:44:11AM BST, lina wrote: Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr opened still the Malaysia language. What web browser are you using and do you have cookies enabled? Does this happen in any other browser? Which country do you reside in? P.S. Am I to assume that it is still on Debian? Thanks for the question you asked. It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem. I checked log file, Sun, Jun 10 2012 12:24:16 +0800 PGRADE] iceweasel:amd64 10.0.4esr-3 - 10.0.5esr-1 Is it due to the updating, Thanks with best regards, Cheers, -- rjc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615071224.ga18...@linuxstuff.pl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmmnn6rg2nyrvpzfokyt7vp0kmkab5j9wnbtz0bpv8g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
Try upgrading to 13 by stable backports. Perhaps this is useful: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/msg00892.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339758841.2650.134.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
IMO GOOGLE is borked. For Firefox Ubuntu, the German Google shows English buttons and links (selected languages are on top en - us, followed by en and on bottom de, might cause the button and link language), the Link to google.com links to google.de. I didn't reboot to another Linux, e.g. Debian but installed chromium-browser. I e.g. could test Safari (Apple) on XP (Windows) on VBox (Arch Linux), but suspect that Chromium is a good choice. For Chromium www.google.com resulted in http://www.google.de/ with German buttons and links, but the link to google.com linked to http://www.google.de/ too. Usually I start with google.de and if needed I use the link to google.com, IIRC it did work yesterday, it at least did work this month. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339761371.2650.148.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:36AM BST, lina wrote: It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem. In that case quit Iceweasel and: % mv $HOME/.mozilla/firefox $HOME/.mozilla/firefox.old If it starts working again remove the new firefox directory, copy the old one to the original name (keep a copy) and clear all cookies. If that works, the answer is obvious, if it doesn't clear all the other settings, etc. Is it due to the updating, Highly unlikely. -- rjc http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615115943.ga24...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:59 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:36AM BST, lina wrote: It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem. In that case quit Iceweasel and: % mv $HOME/.mozilla/firefox $HOME/.mozilla/firefox.old Thanks. It works. Best regards, If it starts working again remove the new firefox directory, copy the old one to the original name (keep a copy) and clear all cookies. If that works, the answer is obvious, if it doesn't clear all the other settings, etc. Is it due to the updating, Highly unlikely. -- rjc http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615115943.ga24...@linuxstuff.pl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmnnua5edjl8kk7wgyy8jikrtgzradzkpa2nxnjhpck...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:30:52 +0800, lina wrote: I feel something weird, since yesterday when I opened www.google.com it showed me Bahasa Malaysia, but I have never used the www.google.com.my. (...) If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there. Period. Or you think you know more than Google, eh? (just kidding ;-P) Google has become very unfriendly, I always have to use a bookmarked page to get Google search in English instead Spanish though using the bookmark will work only for the first request, after that you're pissed again :-/ http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by keeping their cookies :-( Although I am a heavy Google user (except Google+), there is disappointment: although I live in Mexico and speak Spanish at home, I only Google search through that bookmark... and Google never catches on! How hard must it be to note this user never searches in the language where we think the user lives? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jrffhj$lip$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:02:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:15 +, Camaleón wrote: If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there. http://www.affiliateprograms.com/blog/what-to-know-about-duckduckgo/ (Didn't read the duckduckgo article completely myself.) http://scroogle.org/ https://www.ixquick.com/ (...) Yes, I already have those added in my bookmarks but Google search results are by far more complete *in some cases* so I finally have to duplicate the searches which is a pain and a waste of time :-( http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en Take a look at Curt's link, you also can try http://www.google.com/ncr instead. It takes me to www.google.com but it does not disable autocomplete which I avoid with complete=0 so I need a rather longish URI to remove Google's crap :-/ Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by keeping their cookies :-( Or by Firefox addons. No add-on will be present in my Firefox if I can avoid it, they are forbidden :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jrfhmm$bf6$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 09:06 -0500, hvw59601 wrote: Although I am a heavy Google user (except Google+), there is disappointment: although I live in Mexico and speak Spanish at home, I only Google search through that bookmark... and Google never catches on! How hard must it be to note this user never searches in the language where we think the user lives? Such companies have another policy than a FLOSS community. AFAIK Windows in Germany is only available in German language. For Google the customers aren't the users ;), for Windows the customers are the users. Anyway, the users are nothing, but beast for slaughter. Btw. they collect that much data, that I suspect, that it's impossible today, to use all the data. Facebook lost customers, because the data is useless for the marketing of those customers. I always wonder why exclusive, limited editions of exclusive manufactures with a noble and small circle of selected customers, who are more friends than customers, still need to collect private data. How much less CO2 emission would we have, if all those websites would limit their pathological data collecting by using one tracker instead of seven and more trackers? Perhaps the EU could allow me to use bulbs with tungsten filament again, since I need light. I can't use the crippled light modern bulbs cause and it didn't save even one kWh for my flat. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ghostery/ Blocking advertisings, customization off Google, suppressing scripts etc.? I don't add tons of addons anymore, but https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/nuke-anything-enhanced/ If they flash, nuke'em all. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339772486.2650.267.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 14:43 +, Camaleón wrote: No add-on will be present in my Firefox if I can avoid it, they are forbidden :-) :) I limit the number off add-ons and sometimes I'm using different profiles. Current Ubuntu has two defaults that can't be removed by Firefox. Global Menu Bar Integration - disbaled Ubuntu Firefox Modification - enabled, I should disable it or take a look if there should be packages that can be removed I installed three myself. Ghostery- enabled Nuke Anything enhanced - enabled Secure Sanitizer- enabled, I should remove it For Appearance there's the default, disabled and there are 7 Personas themes, I only use(d) nine, oops, two of seven. Just one profile, no additional browser, excepted of Chromium, I installed today, to test the Google search engine. On other installs I sometimes use Opera instead of Firefox/Iceweasel, e.g. for my outdated Suse 11.2. - Ralf -- Why do like that much people Seven of Nine? I preferred Jadzia Dax, from all those US-American glam style alien women. Star Trek could be so nice, if they would get rid of this US-American soap opera influences. http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200307/dax-jadzia03/320x240.jpg Cheers! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339774481.2650.289.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 01:27:10PM BST, lina wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:59 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:36AM BST, lina wrote: It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem. In that case quit Iceweasel and: % mv $HOME/.mozilla/firefox $HOME/.mozilla/firefox.old Thanks. It works. Best regards, No worries. As suspected - coockies or config is at fault :^) -- rjc http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120615160533.ga29...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: [OT] google.com
On 2012-06-15, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote: No worries. As suspected - coockies or config is at fault :^) I asked if she had cookies enabled but I neglected to ask whether she had tried getting rid of them (in the privacy settings) and starting with a clean slate cookie-wise, but I guess we'll never know now whether it was config or cookie (unless it happens again!). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjtmo2p.3ou.cu...@einstein.electron.org
[OT] google.com
Hi, I feel something weird, since yesterday when I opened www.google.com it showed me Bahasa Malaysia, but I have never used the www.google.com.my. Strange huh? I don't know how to fix it, I can compare with other sites to understand the meaning. Any suggestions are appreciated. P.S I checked my IP, it's not in Malaysia. and ever reboot, clear cache, still not work. Thanks with best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmn1tbqqg-c2680jgtea37dhsd2qjjvsyg-fay_00p_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
I don't know how to check further. $ ping www.google.com PING www.l.google.com (173.194.38.144) 56(84) bytes of data. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJmnMt9yuBASD=ZwzWW4j=v0=w5k8e9tpnc7igap4-5a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
P.S I checked my IP, it's not in Malaysia. and ever reboot, clear cache, still not work. What's your IP? Geolocation is not always up to date... -- RMA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fd9cc69.4020...@rktmb.org
Re: [OT] google.com
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: P.S I checked my IP, it's not in Malaysia. and ever reboot, clear cache, still not work. What's your IP? Geolocation is not always up to date... from ipaddress it showed correct position. It used to work well, but since yesterday. -- RMA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fd9cc69.4020...@rktmb.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmnavurlpt45vnfrc8wbjto-tmvgvpm63xr3jsstosh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
I changed to another cable. and also tried wireless, all the same. P.S I am not in malaysia, Thanks with best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmk9lcqerqf1kjq+nzgedsf5mj49pbn6dul4uvcnlsz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] google.com
On 2012-06-14, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: I feel something weird, since yesterday when I opened www.google.com it showed me Bahasa Malaysia, but I have never used the www.google.com.my. Strange huh? I don't know how to fix it, I can compare with other sites to understand the meaning. http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=873 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjtjk45.2dt.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: [OT] google.com
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:30:52 +0800, lina wrote: I feel something weird, since yesterday when I opened www.google.com it showed me Bahasa Malaysia, but I have never used the www.google.com.my. (...) If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there. Period. Or you think you know more than Google, eh? (just kidding ;-P) Google has become very unfriendly, I always have to use a bookmarked page to get Google search in English instead Spanish though using the bookmark will work only for the first request, after that you're pissed again :-/ http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by keeping their cookies :-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jrd2n7$li$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] google.com
Edit Preferences Content Languages didn't change accidental? When I remove German de, I sometimes directly get google.com. Tested now, but it has got no impact at the moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339737906.2650.4.camel@precise
Re: [OT] google.com
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Edit Preferences Content Languages didn't change accidental? When I remove German de, I sometimes directly get google.com. Tested now, but it has got no impact at the moment. I only had English setting there. Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr opened still the Malaysia language. Frankly speaking, I felt a bit frustrated. I know nothing about this language. Though I went to Malaysia three times total, but it's years ago and I didn't take my laptop. I guess I'd better avoid using www.google.com temporarily. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339737906.2650.4.camel@precise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmkaoebqyjvehwg8ipzcjuazfqyaruck73_cynwhju1...@mail.gmail.com