Re: [PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
J.H.M. Dassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the mail transfer system of a subscriber is broken (it should not report back to the From: address of a message with Priority: bulk or junk); Rather, it shouldn't ever bounce to the From: address. All bounces should go to the envelope sender, which for debian-user is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ Larry froze. Was the bag a trap? He could see the way in, but the other end appeared to be sealed.
Re: [PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
On 07 Jan 1999 21:39:40 +1300, you wrote: J.H.M. Dassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the mail transfer system of a subscriber is broken (it should not report back to the From: address of a message with Priority: bulk or junk); Rather, it shouldn't ever bounce to the From: address. All bounces should go to the envelope sender, which for debian-user is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I doubt that Pertamina is aware of that - they don't even have postmaster. Had to look them up in the RIPE DB. Which RfC mandates bounces going to the envelope sender? Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: [PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Haber) writes: I doubt that Pertamina is aware of that - they don't even have postmaster. Had to look them up in the RIPE DB. Which RfC mandates bounces going to the envelope sender? RFC 1123 (aka STD 3), Host Requirements, section 5.3.3. In part: If there is a delivery failure after acceptance of a message, the receiver-SMTP MUST formulate and mail a notification message. This notification MUST be sent using a null () reverse path in the envelope; see Section 3.6 of RFC-821. The recipient of this notification SHOULD be the address from the envelope return path (or the Return-Path: line). So it's not actually required, just encouraged. Software written nearly ten years after the standard was published should be able to do this, though, and it's what mailing list software expects. It's also not using a null envelope sender in its message, which it MUST do. Elsewhere in this RFC is the requirement for a postmaster mailbox. I suppose I should wish them luck... -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ Larry froze. Was the bag a trap? He could see the way in, but the other end appeared to be sealed.
Re: [PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
On 08 Jan 1999 00:50:59 +1300, you wrote: RFC 1123 (aka STD 3), Host Requirements, section 5.3.3. In part: Thanks. I will incorporate this into my canned response for brain-dead autoresponses to mailing lists. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
[PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
Why do I keep getting this almost everytime I put something on one of the debian mailing lists? - Forwarded message from PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rahsheen Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail failure Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:30:00 +0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) [005] The mail retry count was exceeded sending to NWUPPDNV/POUPPDNV. [015] There is insufficient disk space to send this message. -- Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Rahsheen Porter To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: cdrom Date: 1999-01-06 11:06 Priority: 3 Message ID: 91EFA868FAA4D211BB7100A024772261 Text of message here - End forwarded message - - End forwarded message -
Re: [PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 06:48:25 -0500, Rahsheen Porter wrote: Why do I keep getting this almost everytime I put something on one of the debian mailing lists? Because the mail transfer system of a subscriber is broken (it should not report back to the From: address of a message with Priority: bulk or junk); I've mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask for the removal of the problematic address from the list; hopefully it'll get fixed soon. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: [PERTAMINA/PIMPD/POSTMASTER: Mail failure]
On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 01:16:29PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 06:48:25 -0500, Rahsheen Porter wrote: Why do I keep getting this almost everytime I put something on one of the debian mailing lists? Because the mail transfer system of a subscriber is broken (it should not report back to the From: address of a message with Priority: bulk or junk); I've mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask for the removal of the problematic address from the list; hopefully it'll get fixed soon. Ah, ok. I thought I screwed something up :) Thanks.
