Re: [SOLVED] Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-05-16 Thread Florian Snow

Hi everyone!

John Hasler:

Note that the FSF publishes documentation that Debian considers
non-free.


Just out of curiosity: Which documentation are you referring to?

Florian


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Re: [SOLVED] Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-05-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 16 mai 11, 09:40:51, Florian Snow wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 
 John Hasler:
 Note that the FSF publishes documentation that Debian considers
 non-free.
 
 Just out of curiosity: Which documentation are you referring to?

For example the emacs docs that were mentioned recently in another 
thread.

Regards,
Andrei
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[SOLVED] Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-05-15 Thread sdc
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM, sdc asmosis.aste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
 Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big
 progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but
 still isn't free software because users have the option to install
 proprietary software from debian's server and this is a bit confusing for
 beginners in this free software world.
 My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the proprietary software
 hosted on it's servers? Don't they want to follow the FSF word?


 Thanks!



Re: [SOLVED] Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-05-15 Thread John Hasler
sdc writes:
 My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the [non-free]
 software hosted on it's servers?

Because some of our users need it.  While we make that stuff available,
we do not consider it part of Debian.

 Don't they want to follow the FSF word?

No.  Note that the FSF publishes documentation that Debian considers
non-free.  Debian is not a subsiduary of the FSF.  See
http://www.debian.org/social_contract
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Re: [SOLVED] Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-05-15 Thread Perry Thompson
On 05/15/2011 11:14 AM, John Hasler wrote:
 sdc writes:
 My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the [non-free]
 software hosted on it's servers?
 
 Because some of our users need it.  While we make that stuff available,
 we do not consider it part of Debian.
 
 Don't they want to follow the FSF word?
 
 No.  Note that the FSF publishes documentation that Debian considers
 non-free.  Debian is not a subsiduary of the FSF.  See
 http://www.debian.org/social_contract

While FSF may not consider it to be free, it is as long as you have not
used the non-free and contrib repos. Install the package called vrms and
run it from the terminal. If you have no programs in that list, then
you're running a system that is just as free as any FSF-recommended OS.

It used to irk me as well that Debian was not considered free by FSF,
but they give us the choice. So, as with many things in GNU/Linux world,
we have the choice of what we want to do.


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[Solved]: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:10:08 +0300, sdc wrote in message 
banlktikb0dbmlckyoph-wqu2gft+2oq...@mail.gmail.com:

 By the way, is there an option to mark this mail as a
 solved so others will (hopefully)not reply to it anymore?

..put [Solved] or some such on the Subject: line, like here.

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